July 15, 2025 • 49 mins
Tisha Campbell & Melissa De Sousa pull up to Lip Service for one of the wildest, most honest conversations yet. From navigating polyamory and sneaky exes to terrifying real-life encounters—including Tisha’s jaw-dropping story of narrowly escaping a drugging—they cover it all.
The actresses break down their new film Operation Aunties, reflect on dating through the decades, and talk about the challenges of being known for iconic roles like Gina (from Martin) and Shelby (from The Best Man). Melissa opens up about her dealbreakers (spoiler: weed every day is a no), while Tisha shares how stalkers, parenting, and fame have shaped her perspective.
It’s laughter, real talk, and serious lessons all in one episode.
Topics include:
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Polyamory & why it didn’t work
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Dating red flags & embarrassing situationships
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Tisha’s true story of nearly being drugged as a teen
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Tech panic & behind-the-scenes on Operation Aunties
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Stalkers, stereotypes, and life beyond “Gina”
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Friendship dates vs. expectations
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Self-worth, sensuality, and setting boundaries
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It's lift service and the Antela Yee.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
I'm g g maguire, Jordie jor.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Auntie.
Speaker 4 (00:06):
She came.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
And welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is so exciting to have from the stars of
Operation Aunties here with us All Black. That movie just
came out. I of course had a chance to see it.
We did too, write all of us. So congratulations. How
was it for you guys. This is the first time
you guys worked on That's the sometime we.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Worked together together. Yes, ever, we've known him here in
the business for forever.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Yeah, and with Wendy Rockell Robinson, who was also the director, worked.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
With her in the nineties. But I worked with this.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
It was my first time working with her as a
director as well, so it.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Was it was fun.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I have to check because I was like, have they
ever done anything today?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I know?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, when I when I heard she saw and on
and I was.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Like, and when I heard they were doing I was like,
oh God, I gotta do this. The chemistry already we
know you doing all day was laughing.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You can actually see the chemistry on on screen too.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Even with that makes me have the three of you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They did a great sasting.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But let's talk about a couple of things in the show.
Because one of the one of the things we find
out about your character early on a form former detective
yep retired a retired detective. You were breaking up with
their husband.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Because because I wanted to have a polyamorous experience.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay, yes, I feel like what man doesn't want that?
We didn't you.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Know why my character's husband did not, right?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, you said passionately.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I was like, yeah, because men are selfish. They want
to they only want to be able to.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, not with two men. They were probably wanted with
two women.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, it doesn't mean you both get to do what
you want, though, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's what we were trying to explore.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Another couple.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It's like, I don't think it was a situation yeah
or yeah, but I feel like you had a one
person a person.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I think I think my character was just trying to.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Do the movie either way, he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's funny. It's so interesting how like talks about different
ways that people like stay married or are in relationships
are being had that were never being had before. You know,
because I feel like so often you hear people talking
about this now, it's just such a common thing, like
and I feel like, like to your point, a lot
of times it's the one the guy that wants to
(02:50):
be able to like open things up, like the whole
TV shows where that's happening right right right, And I
know gz you wanted to at one point in your life.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
At one point I was in it. I'm not, but
I was in a long term relationship and we were
having like random threesomes because we both wanted to. It
was I mean, I'm not like technically by it. You know,
sometimes no just femalech yeah, but you know sometimes the no,
we were having fine, we were having a good time
with the three SOMs, but I felt like it was
(03:20):
so random, and I'm like, we can't just be out here,
you know, it's crazy out in these streets. So let's
just find a girlfriend and then we can have just
one person that we can trust and you know, we
can be open with and da da da. But yeah,
he wasn't deserving, so it never happened. And now I'm
over that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So what do you think, Jordan about redefining what like.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
I mean, I feel like people have to be honest
about what they want, because I feel like that has
led to a lot of breakups and people not feeling
comfortable with their partner about what they want to experiment
with and like what they will or will not tolerate.
But at the same time.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I'm like, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I don't think that was fine.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I'm not doing it, you know. I just want to
put that out there. Yes, I'm into that, so only
because I don't want my man like doing nothing else.
I just don't if he did, I don't even care
if it's like, oh, I couldn't handle that, Yeah, And
I don't think he could handle that either.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
They usually can't.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I feel like a lot of.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Times it ends to people's relationship, like ends people's relationships,
Like people think that that's what they want, Like, well,
if he's going to do it anyway, or he'll like
it and he'll like me if I do this, and
then they do it and then they regret it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It seems like it's more one sighted.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh absolutely, I know I DDA did it with He
was telling me he did it with someone another girl
he was with, but they added another girl, and then
after they did it together, he went to see the
girl that's almost gonna happen. It's not going to ever.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's definitely work to be clean. I don't know anyone
that that was one of the things that was the
most disrespect part of him cheating is that you would
cheat with women that we were with together, and then
you would go and do it behind my back, because
if I didn't already you permission and you know I
want to watch, So why are you keeping it away
from me? Like why sneak shi.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
People think about what they wanted to forget it now
your character and Operation Aunties, you're this text geniuses, which
I love.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I love I love that her character.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Because it's like a bunch of dialogue.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I was going to ask you about that because you
seem like you knew what you were really talking about.
Giving presentations and.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Giving our nervous breakdown is what I was about. Literally,
I don't know anything about that stuff. So you know,
I know I shouldn't keep confessing this, right.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I can't. It's authentic that you really had to work hard.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, but it was really hard, and sometimes I had
to like pastelines in places.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Because it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Like doing my roles.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, and I came on late because teacher was already
attached from a long time ago, so when by the
time I came on, I only had like two weeks,
and so I was having panic attacks because I couldn't remember.
And I don't like being the one on set that
doesn't know their lines.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's not me.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm always very prepared and professional. So it did not
feel good. I felt like afraid, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And it felt that more though, more so than what
it came across, because she's a phenomenal actress.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Me, I was like, let me find out and listen
know all this text I can't.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Even work my iPhone and goes to.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Show how good that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Didn't think about technology though, just doing a movie like
this and what space we're moving into, just being in
the house and being like, hey, shut this down, hey
do this hey.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, she said.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I would like it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, she would like it until it turns into make right.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And I want, like, you know, Martin or something, you know,
I don't know. I want a guy that can just
walk around, you know, the robot to do stuff for me.
I wouldn't mind that cleaning the house and do that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
A housekeeper robot.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, you know, they don't have make me something out
of you have eyes and ship, but I would just
think that, you know, it would be you.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Woke up and he was standing staring at scary, charging,
charging without me turning him on.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What if they could give you a massage every night?
That sounds amazing, No.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That sounds frightening, like we're gonna be touching you on
stuff cold. You know, they could do things I would
if he locks up on your body.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Come on a.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Destination thing.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So let's just say, in a world of technology, what
are some things that you would embrace and wish you
could have in your house? What's that with you? Besides
the vibrator?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Because the way I be master to be hmmm, I
would like some help cleaning. I do a lot of cleaning. Yeah,
I do a lot of cleaning. Maybe fold and put
away the laundry because that's where I always get stuff.
I'm going to the cleaning. It's a big old pollicles
and then the next day I got to revisit that
because now I'm worn out. So maybe just have put
the put the laundry away, all right, finish up.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
That's sane for me because I have a OCD, so
I clean. I love to clean, but I do not
like doing laundry. My mother used to make me do
my brother's laundry and the things that I've seen noaking.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, man, no, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Even boys. I'm sure you've seen a lot worse.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I taught them how to do their laundry at seven because.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I c t shirts.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'm nothing. No, they on their own, ten years old.
They all knew how to work the wash.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I'm not doing it. Mark.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I know you're going to say marks.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The worse.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh my god, yes, of course I know what that is.
I was thinking maybe cooking would be nice, like I
would love to cooking. Yes, I would to everything there,
but I would like to throw massages in there. I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No, I don't know. I feel like something be broken.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, you guys don't want to say that.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
That one I used, But those.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Are ball they're like on a ball hands like, so
you'll okay with a human beings hands on you who
you don't know. But I don't like it either, malfunction.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I'm not I'm not a big massage. I'm not a
big I'm not I'm not a girl like I don't
like to do like the manny petties. I'm not getting
in anyone's mud back. I don't like any of that stuff,
all the things because.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I might be with her on the massage.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Really, I.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Do like it if they know how to do it right.
You know how sometimes you get that person that's too
light on it.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Off.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I think sometimes they want you to fall asleep and
then they don't be doing nothing like the little gentle.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, that keeps me up.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What about you, Jerdie?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
If you had to definitely the chores, the laundry, clean
the house, make my bed, turn my TV on, run
my back.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You can turn your TV. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Give them something to do, a remote app for the
TV in my bedroom and I'll be on my phone
like yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Right now listen a question for you about your character
on the show. So you've been sneaking around with your
ex husband? Okay, is that sneaking?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yees?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Sneaking behind my girlfriend's back?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean, no one knows, but right purposely you didn't
tell how often and frequent is that? As women, you know,
we love to talk to our friends about everything. Right,
have you ever in real life like dated or you know,
backslid and not told your friends about it because you
were kind of embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, no, no, not I know even talk to me
about the stuff. I'm a bore. It's like everyone's going
to go to sleep. No I don't. Yeah, there's no one.
I just tell it. I can't help it.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
No, No, not keeping it a secret.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, I'd be like, yeah, or date somebody that's kind
of embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Oh No, I'm not doing that at all, you know
what I mean. I don't know what the funs like.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I don't want people to know necessarily.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, like the.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Situationship, Yeah, like somebody or maybe he ain't ship, and like,
you know, it could be any reason.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
They could be any reason he ain't ship.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But you know, because sometimes we tell our friends a lot,
but there's certain things where like I'm gonna just take
this to the grave with me.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh I think I've the friends I've had, We've always
told each other everything.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, so you think no kidding, enjoy Do you ever
dated somebody's been embarrassed?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Absolutely, most of them, most of them looking back at
and I'm like, these were all mistakes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's why I went.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Celibate for a year or two.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It's clear it.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Yeah, just clear the roster because it's really hard out here,
especially now. I don't know, the dating cultures is weird.
And I was actually gonna ask y'all that, like, what
do you think was the best time to date?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Like was the nineties?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
It now is not?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Let me tell you, I've never really had a been
asked on a proper date by a man and my
life to this day. In my life, wow, I always
had boyfriends, so I went from boyfriend, boyfriend to marriage.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
How did you get from point A to B? What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Like, how did you get.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
An introduction to boys?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
How does become your Somebody.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Would always like I was always like that catchers. They
wanted to snatch me up. So I always had boyfriends
and I don't have a long roster. I don't have
a you know, a long body count. But we got time.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
No, I don't have.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
So I just went straight from that to marriage. So
the whole dating thing.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Is all we need to get you a proper somebody
asked you one date?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, actually, this one guy took me on.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Like a like a horseback ride, first day mountain.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
You think it's romantic when you think of his back ride.
But if it was physically challenging.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, that hurts. Yeah, if you've never you've never ridden
a horse.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
When you get off, you still walk bowlet Yeah, if.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
You know how to ride, you're bouncing.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
That's only. That's only.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It's a good proper date then, like if somebody was
want to take you, somebody take me.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
To dinner, dinner, to a movie to play. You know,
somebody asked me to have some you know, and I'm
a cheap date.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I don't even like lobster.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I am too. I don't need seafood, red meat or
park not.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I eat some chicken though, chicken and chicken. Yeah, there
we go. Listen, you know youre a cheap date. Of
all you eat is chicken. That's always a che menu
chick exactly. Listen. I went to this restaurant when I
was where was I was? I an Anguilla and no
Saint Martin, And all they have was seafood. But then
on the kids menu they had chicken fingers and that's
what you had. And I had the chicken fingers, and
(14:47):
I'm gonna tell you this, everybody was like, where'd you
get a chicken from? That was the only thing I
can eat on the menu, all right, So a proper
date for you? Would you would like for somebody to
just ask you, like, hey, I would love to take
you to dinner. Yeah, somebody do this?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You just said.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I said I never, But that don't mean that I
want somebody right now. Join my freedom.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I love that for you.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, man, freedom is great. But you know, friendship dates
are good too.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't know what that is. It's from my generation.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
When they took you out, they expected something like like
I hang out with a millennial. She was like, I mean,
somebody to take me out, but I don't have to put
out them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You don't, you don't.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But from my generation, that's what we knew.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You know what I'm sayingast chicken.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And potatoes. That's a shame. I feel like dating is fine,
but like, how do you meet somebody? Because you know
you're you?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You're you?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Like, how do you? I just feel like that part
is hard because then you know they're texting their homeboys like.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Shelby, like, I hang out with millennials and gen Z
so I could keep it high, keep it popping, keep
it current, right, But.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
My millennial friends said to me, you know you are
not marriage material, and I was like, whoa right, yes
before she was.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Like nah, because all people want to do, all who
want to do is Jake Gina.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They want to have to a Gina.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Okay, so I was.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
To care for my marriage.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So but that's a little hard.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You've had other great roles, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That's the fantasized about.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I I guess because Gina was
cool and fun, and you are cool and fun in
your life too, so it's not necessarily it's.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Not far off, so I get the fantasy.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
However, how.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, so I just know I don't do it just
be children.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well I almost called you Shelby because I just said that.
But people also like the girl that's like a little
you know, bougie.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
And that's you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The yeah, and you seem like you just say what
it was on your mind.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's not like me. You're like, oh, you're so nice.
When they meet me, they just, I guess expect me
to be a monster or something like and just you know,
like I mean, listen, I know I can be a
lot too. I mean I'm not perfect, but I'm not
that you know.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And I'm in my relationship, I'm a libra. So I'm
like overly giving and sometimes at my own demise, do
you know what I mean. Yeah, I literally had to
teach myself to expect what I get, you know what
I mean, I would do a lot of that. I'm
a I'm a caretaker, I like, you know, I take
guys out sometimes, you know what I mean, I'm not
like it's all about me and like what are you
(17:46):
going to do for me? And blah blah blah, and
so almost to where.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's too much.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I understand what you mean. Sometimes you're just too giving. Yeah,
and then that's who I am, and that's why I'm always.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Going to be that way. But at the same time,
you gotta watch yourself, yeah, because you know yeah, And
also it's not healthy anyway to do that in the
first place.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
So you know, So you have discernment when it comes
to dating, Like do you have discernment like with guys?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, I don't. I've never really dated dated that much either.
I've always gone from one long relationship to the next two.
And if I've ever dated, it's always just one time.
And then you I know, I already.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Know, like, say somebody take you on the first date,
what would make you be like, never again. I'm all
of the icks.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
What are yours?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What is something?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I remember one guy when I was like, I was
getting sleepy, I was just like, I don't I don't
remember what happened. I don't remember. Well, there's certain things
like oh gosh, I'm trying to remember because I've never
dated a lot. But oh god, I don't know if
I have an ick. But I know there was. Okay,
this is one thing I do have a thing with.
And I know everyone's going to probably be like, oh god,
(18:54):
if you smoke weed, It's like, I can't. I don't know.
That's not a thing for me. Like if it's if
you're like a a weed smoke or like regularly and
like you smoke as soon as you wake up.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh my god, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I'm like, because you're not ever coherent.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I like, I a gy who would smok before you
even brush his teeth. Oh yeah, like they disgusting. By
the way, if you don't even get up, brush your teeth,
wipe the crust out your eye, like you know what
I'm saying. You get your day, the first thing you
do is roll over and start smoking. I think that's
I do think that's awful. Yeah, And I don't smoke either, Yeah,
(19:30):
but and so I don't like people who like all
day long, but I don't mind people smoking every now
and then. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, No, I don't know. I'm not against it by
any means, but it's just if I'm not if I'm
going to date you, I don't know if if that's
something you do all like every day, I probably couldn't.
All right, So when I'm getting lifestyle, yeah, it's totally
nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You're not judging. No, I've tried it.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
And then I failed algebra and I have no seriously
because I was. And then I had to go to
night school and I was like, I'm done. I'm cool
the week because it was not fun. You had to
go to night school. That's because I failed. So then
it was in the city that I gotta go to Queen's.
I gotta go back to Queens. It was night time.
I was like, well that was anymore. I'm done. This
(20:13):
is horrible.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That was you have trauma associated trauma.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
We just brought everything. It just wasn't good. It wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
She said, one bad experience and it was over one
bad experience. I don't even feel like I should say
this all right?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
From smoking weed?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, but I did do ecstasy when it was like,
you know, I didn't even know it was. Yes, I
did it, and it was the longest two days in
my life.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Really.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I just say that I cannot sleep. I was like, yeah,
I was awake. You tried it before too.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
No shrooms did that to me once where I could
not sleep.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, and that's a terrible feeling. And then you look careful, right,
I looked just worn out, scaring, all right, So I
understand that's not a bad ache for you to have.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
What about you X Somebody that calls me Gina, Oh,
that'll do it. My son calls me, that's my job.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
For people who don't know. Somebody showed like I don't
show my kids my work. But when it was one
of the waynses. It was Nollawayan's.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
She was basitting and when I left, I came back,
they were watching the March Show.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Zek was about three years old. From then on he
started calling me Gene.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
That's so funny, hilarious.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
It was like.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, and he still does it to this day. He's fifteen. Now, Gina,
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I know, they have to love the fact that their
mom is like, they don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I bet at school though, they don't care. As a
matter of fact, they asked me to.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Come from my son's school to you know, for Black
History Month and do a speech. And he was like,
you can.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Come, but you you better not tell anybody that I'm your.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Son randomly coming. Yeah, that I'm just randomly coming to
the school.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Not because your son goes.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
To the school.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, No, he didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
He didn't want my son was not a student, Yeah,
not at all.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I just thought it was just some random ladies showing up.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Absolutely like how did y'all get her?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
He didn't want the attention.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He doesn't.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
He doesn't like a lot of attention. He plays around
with it. But you know, even our our tiktoks, he's like, yeah,
I seen it been this time, but not the next time.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
That's cute. That's good. It means you raised them right though, Yeah,
you know that.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Like I actually wanted them. I didn't want them to
watch my work because I just wanted them to know
me as my mom, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So that's good.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I wasn't even like doing a movie like Operation Aunties
and thinking about how these are are. It is a
serious topic that the movie is addressing, but there's a
lot of humor in it too. But there were some
scary moments. The first thing I learned was do not
drink no water And all right, I didn't know. This
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is based on the Tuesdays on the Truth.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
TJ.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
A'llli wrote it and it was based on a true story.
He and Wendy really worked the script so that the
story was strong. But yeah, it's based on a true story.
And they and Wendy said, she, you know, did a
lot of research on the dark web and she was
like going down that rabbit hole was that's scary for real,
you know, But yeah, it's based on a true story.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, that is definitely. I've heard that before, like when
you get into uber not to never ever get to
not drink the water and then it's and then also
don't get into one when you're drunk by yourself, I know, yeah,
or even by yourself period, that is like nothing you
can you know safely. I think, do by yourself. That's
(23:45):
why as women we always like go to the club
together and leave together and take together. H Do you
ever feel like has this ever happened to you? You're like,
did somebody put something in my drink?
Speaker 5 (23:55):
No, but that happened to a friend of mine, and
she was fine one second, and then she only had
one glass of wine and then all of a sudden
she was incoherent, and oh.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
My goodness, we had to take her home and so, well,
thank god you did you know you.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I'm not. I've never been a club girl, though I've
gone out, but yeah, I don't. But I always knew, like,
you got to watch your drink. But sometimes you know.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You can't do anything.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You can't Yeah, you can't be on top of it
all every time.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
That happened to me. Once, I was at my friend's
birthday party and I had one drink and it was
me and my friend. The two of us had one drink,
and we both were so out of it after that
one drink. It was an awful night. I'm just say
that we had a car accident and everything and a
lot of it that I was like, we blacked out.
(24:45):
I only had one I don't even think I finished
the drink, and it was like the worst experience ever,
but thankfully, like everything was okay. Have you ever felt
like that Jordie.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Definitely in college and I actually recently saw this video.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I don't know if anyone else saw it.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
They were showing you how easy it is to slip
stuff and drink, and like, even with a group of people,
you could be mid sentence whether your drink in your
hand and someone's passing by and just throws it and
you have no idea. Yeah, was it like a pill
or was it like a It's like a little yeah,
It's just like you don't even notice, you don't even
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feel anything.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You know, you don't know what happened.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
If I'm out a lot of times I'll only drink water,
and I have to crack the box.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I don't. I don't drink when i'm out.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, it's crazy, how as when we have to take
so many procrossings because you never know who's actually preying
on you, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I do remember this one time, yo, there was this
one I was I was I was twenty No, I
was sixteen. I was sixteen, and I went over to
this guy's house and I remember that he kept trying
to get me to drink this Coca cola and I
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was like, I'm good, I'm not thirsty, So I just
kept talking and then he was like, you want some
more food? Eat the food. Eat the food. And I
was like, nah, I'm good, I'm full. And he was like,
so he had to like take me back to Jersey.
I went all the way over there to.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Queens to you know, hang out.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
He was actually a music producer and not a famous one. Yeah,
but when I saw him a couple of years later,
he was like, hey, I want to I want to
take you to dinner and no. He brought this photo
album with him and he and he showed me the
(26:39):
photo album. He was like, you see this and it
was a chair that was nailed to the headboard and
I said, what is this? What am I looking at?
He said that night that you came over, I put
something in your drink, he admitted, And he said I
nailed the chair to the headboard because I was I
(27:00):
want to put you on the chair and I was
gonna do this to you and I was going to
do that to you.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I was like, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
What?
Speaker 5 (27:05):
If admitted it, and then she told you.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That he was proud.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
He was proud.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
He showed he had all these other contraptions and handcuffs,
and all kinds of other stuff, and he just showed
me the pictures. He was like, I tried to get
you to drink the coca cola and you wouldn't drink it.
Then I'll put it in your in your spaghetti, and
you wouldn't eat that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
But every time he tried to give me something.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I don't know, God.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Saying don't don't eat it, don't drink it.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I didn't you hear that in my head? Don't drink that,
don't eat that.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And he had pictures of these things, had pictures and
was proud.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Was proud to tell you that he was trying to
try you what.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's giving criminal minds?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And how did you react? You were like all right?
And the fact that he didn't think clearly, he didn't
think there was anything wrong with that. And he's showing
you this like.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No he thought.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
And when he when this happened, it was back in
the ninety so I saw him again when I was twenty,
so it was like a four year span afternoon when
I was sixteen.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And how old was he He had to be old
nineteen twenty at the time when we when we were
going to when he made dinner, but yeah, he was
imagine he probably did that to some other women did Yeah,
there's no way that Oh my god, right, that is right.
(28:27):
And when you think about it, like thinking about it now,
because you know, now seeing a lot of things that
people have happening, and people are like, what didn't somebody
say something like at the time, you're just like horrified,
and it's something that's so like, like, I'm that scary.
Forgot all about that, yeah until just now, until just now.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, their.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Life it would have been wait, wait, can you imagine
the type of trauma somebody would have an experience like
that for the rest of your life. But that's why
I'm saying, you said, this is a true story based
on a true story, true story, you know this movie.
That's why all this stuff is so scared. Even when
I was watching it, like there were some great laughs
in there, you know as well, but it's also kind
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of like this is creazy.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
It makes you think.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I think that the wonderful thing about Operational Aunties is
that it is entertaining in every single way. I'm there
for the levity, but you also get to see African
American women be as brilliant as a Steve Jobs. You
know what I'm saying, and for I mean, we haven't
even talked about like what it actually is about.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's it's a cyber crime, yeah, drama y, and so
you get to see us be all the things.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
You get to see us be vulnerable, you get to
see us being intellectual, you get to see us be comedic,
you get to see when they even wet.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, there's there's drama, there's something vigilanta.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
You're definitely a who done a vigilante type of thing,
and so you have everything in this movie.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And I steel like, but it makes you think. It
also makes you think. It also makes you realize that
sometimes it could take so long if you have to
go to the police about something.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Oh yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, the process can feel like injustice.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, you know, having been famous as long as you
both have, have you ever had like stalker situations speaking
of how long it takes to get because I haven't
a stocker is a really long process. A lot of
times the police won't do anything until something actually happens.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Not in person. I've just had people online where I
just had to block because every morning, every like another
message or you know, what I mean, just stuff, just messages,
but not ever like showing up somewhere.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
When I was on the Martin Show, there was this
guy who would know where I was going to be
before I even knew where I was going to be,
Like if we had to do publicity or press.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
This guy knew anything, and he would call.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
The office of the you know, the Martin Show offices
and tell people I'm going to be there, tell them
I'm going to be there, like he would.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Do that, right.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
And so then one day I'm walking, I'm by myself
in between scenes.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
And nobody was around for some reason.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
The makeup trailer is on my left, and I see
these two guys that looked like they shouldn't have been mere, right,
And so I see them. So I make a quick
left and I go into the makeup tailer and try
not to think about it, and put did something in
the makeup tailer, came back out. They moved closer to
the makeup tailer, right, So I just said, well, I'm
(31:27):
just gonna go on the stage because they look creepy, right,
So I started to walk towards the stage. They said, Tisha,
it's me, right, and so I said, who's me, and
he was like, I'm such and such and I know
you're going to be and I came.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I snuck on this lot to come see you. Well,
here's the thing. Most people think that, you know, I'm Gina,
but bitch, I ain't Gena.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Okay, So I.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Went nuts, right, I started cussing them.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Out I could, Yeah, absolutely, okay, I don't want to
mess up your sponsor eleven.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I went straight new.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Looking over. He said right and would never and they
both took off running like I was. I was coming
at him right, there's a lot there, but he was
(32:36):
knotted up on him real quick. He's never been back.
I'll do it, I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, he was like, I stocked the wrong person, all right,
So fortunately for you it's just online annoying line and
just block.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But then they get a new name, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
This is the same picture that pops up.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I'm like, yeah, so that's it. But even that, the
stalkers and there, Yeah, it's just even though it's just like,
come on, it's just I don't even want to go
online now. Just kind of ruins it. But you know, yeah,
every time, Yeah, it does make my stomach hurt a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know what I wanted to ask you as as
far as you doing Alvin Ailey, I know that's intense.
Can you tell me what that experience was like? Because
I'm Ali is so highly esteemed you know here, and
I've listened you know how many times I've been to
like the Alvin Alei Theater and gone to those performances.
But I would love to hear what your experience was like.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay, Well, I started out at the high School Performing
Arts in New York City, which you know the Fame movie,
and so I was a ballet major. Then I took
modern but the dancers also had to take acting classes.
So that's how that got woven in at some point.
But then after, while I was in high school, I
was on scholarship at the Ale School, so I got
a scholarship to take classes. After school, I would go
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to the school, the Aley School, to take classes and
then go home and do my homework and come back
do it all over again. So once I was on scholarship.
When you're on scholarship and they know I'm at Performing Arts,
you know, they start, you see, like I saw they
the head of the company, Sylvia Waters, like she would
come into class and pop in and kind of just look,
and so you knew if she would pop in and
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like she's kind of sculping out who's she's going to
bring into the company next. And so literally after I
think I had just graduated, was about to graduate. It
was in my senior year and I was in the
kitchen with my mother and she called. She was like,
this is Silvia Waters. I was like, well, anyway, She
was like, would you like to join us? And I
said of course, so yeah, so you know, so while
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so I got in by being on scholarship there, so
they kind of see you in the class, and then
she just asked me to join the company. So but
it was hard. I mean, the choreography is hard, and
you know, just like acting, it's it's funny because Alvin,
it wasn't his ballets were kind of like theater piece.
(34:57):
They were they were you were characters. It wasn't just
like movement. It's like each like there was a part
for tall girls, were part for shorter girls, and then
you it was an acting piece almost characters that they were.
You were cast as characters, so you know, sometimes there
was a little type casting. I was like, oh, I
wish I could do that part, but it's he created
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things just by you know, body type and all this
other stuff. But that's what I loved about it. So
it was kind of acting as well. You know, the
ballets are very still, they're very dramatic, and they're very
heartfelt and there's you know, a lot of history to it.
And only one time, one time there was a ballet
called Streams, and it was very very hard. You know.
I wasn't like the one that had like the six o'clock,
(35:40):
you know, and you know the whatever, you know what
I mean, Like I can my develope wasn't up to
my head. It wasn't one of those. But I had
my strengths. And so one time I had a private
rehearsal with him and it was so scary, but I
got to like he was sitting there, sitting there watching
me do He's like rehearse the solo, and he like
(36:01):
fitted to me because I had my body was different
than maybe the other person that did it, so he
kind of molded it to what I to my strengths.
So I'll never forget that.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
That's such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
It was huge. It was scary, but and then after
he passed whatever. Then I had a rehearsal with the
first who took over. She was like, it's all wrong,
like she didn't know it anyway. But it was it
was a it was an amazing experience and it was hard.
(36:33):
It was hard, but I wouldn't give it up.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
It was one of the some of the best times
even the high school. It was just some of the
best times in my life. But it was difficult. It
wasn't easy. It's really hard choreography and hard on the body.
And yeah, so after that, I was still taking acting
classes and then I just kind of transitioned. I did
some musical theater and stuff like that. But you know,
that just it was just like a kind of like
a you know, like what's the word I'm looking for.
(36:57):
It was just like a smooth transition from the dance
to but yeah, it was it was grueling, like I
had like back problems and you know, because yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Something you can continue to do.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Fur yeah a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
And that sounds interesting to me that you don't like
massages like that, because it feels like it would do
you some good.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
No, I mean I had to have I didn't have.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Masses Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
You know you know when they you know, the woman
gets on top of you and stuff like that, she
bends you and stuff. So yeah, I've had those and
those are actually good.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
What about occupacture? You ever do that?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
And I kind of feel like, well, what are these
needles doing? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I'm sure it works, but you know you want are
you into yoga?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I have done like the hot yoga where it's really hot,
and you know, it was good because I had I
could stretch, you know what I mean, so I could
do the positions. But that's hard to that I had.
Favorite's so good. It is so like sweat so much.
I probably should go back to that. I tried to
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take a ballet class the other day and I said
I stayed too long. I stayed too long in the fair, you.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Know, that's all.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I stayed too long and like now my back is hurting. Yea.
I have a dance background in my mind.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I went to Arts high school. I took byle since
the age of in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, dance was like my dream, like a police I
can only imagine. Unfortunately, I got pregnant in high school
and that ended my that part of my dance career.
I ended the band stripper, but that's a whole different story.
But I'm looking at Yeah I was. But that's why
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I love yoga so much because I still get to
have that movement. And I would love to take an
adult ballet class. I think that would be good.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
You live here in New York.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I live in Atlanta, but here, but I'm always here.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
The Steps, Steps, And don't get we.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Don't tell me that it was bad because.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I went. I had no business. I went to like
I was my mind. You know, you think I saw
myself still doing what I was doing. So yeah, no,
the bar was great. But then I tried to go
in the center and you know, start jumping around. There's like,
okay this I just limped off to the side. I
didn't because I didn't take it slow. I just what
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to do.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I could not do it.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
It was just so good.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
But you know they have beginners classes at Steps.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
You can go there.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
It's just I took the beginners of ballet because just
to go take the bar and just work it.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Out and everything.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, you can just do that. It's a great.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
It's like it's also great like for you in the
of course, yeah, being flexible like that, like, yeah, she
didn't even hear what I said. That's from probably great
for in the bedroom, like ballet, and to clarify that, yeah, yeah, listen,
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I want to it's great too.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I mean it's a it's an art form I took.
When you're good, like just walk them. It's not easy.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Workout. It only works out in my life, honestly, and
it's it's full body, is cores, upper strength. But then
it's a mental thing too, because you see the professional
dancers and the women who are on the pole and
you have not one of those women. You see those
women doing it, and you're like, oh my god, wow,
I wonder how you do it. And then when you learn,
it's such an accomplishment and it's so good for the
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self esteem. I taught those classes for a really long
time after that.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
And that to be able to.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Break.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
And you know, you look like you've always had some
Like watching you on TV and your roles, it just
looks like you're having such a good time incorporating everything
that you did do a dancer.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
You are no everybody thinks I am I faked it. Sorry,
go ahead, I've asked, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
It's okay, take your time.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Sorry. So everybody thinks that I'm a dancer, but I
was never a dancer. I would fake it. Even my
agent would send.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Me out on dance auditions because they first saw me
in a musical on forty second at Theater Row and they.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Assumed that I was a dancer.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
But no, I was never a dancer. And I had
to beg them to stop sending.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Me on dance auditions.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Oh my god, I would grab it if I was fifteen.
And when I first got my agent, I was like, well, they.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Must believe in me because I should really do this.
And that was horrible.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
And even for the audition for school days, you had
to do the acting audition and then the callback was
the dance audition. I didn't know it was a callback,
and so they had told me, yeah, you know, I
want you to come in for this dance audient. I
was like, mm, I'm not coming. I'm not going over there,
and they then Robbie Reid called me back. I was like,
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te sher, this is the callback for school this.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I was like, oh, I can be there.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
You know what happened was I said, okay, okay, okay, okay,
I'm come, but Robbie, tell me what the first audition
is and your last audition. She was like, it's nine
am and six pm is the last auditions. I was like,
give me the six pm. I show up at nine
am and watch everybody else. No, now watch I'm in
the I'm learning the.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Choreography from nine o'clock until six. I didn't take a
water break. I didn't take a food break.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
I just worked until I could get it in my
body good enough so that.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
I could try to do.
Speaker 7 (42:50):
Because every okay, she says, you know that said to me, listen,
you have the moves down, but I'm eighteen.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
You lack sensuality.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
So me and Jasmine were standing next to each other,
Jazmine guy, and so he says, so I'm gonna have
you guys take sensuality classes.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
And when what the fuck is that? Right?
Speaker 5 (43:24):
So he goes, I want you to spell the words
sensuality centraally, and so Jasmine went first, she.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Goes, s E.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
And how you spell it? But from this part right here,
he was like, just pretend your breasts are on fire.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
So it wasn't just this. So that's why I have.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
But that's my favorite part of the movie that want
to be seen. That's what that's.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
They gave me two weeks ahead of time before all
the other real dancers came in and me and Kime
we worked really hard together and that I was lacking
did a girl?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Thank you and listen Nothing and Nothing one of my
favorite shows that to this day i'd be like, they
should have never raxed to Riches was mine?
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Oh that was you that watched that? That was you?
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Oh my god, that's making me sing, oh little Witches sauce.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Let the Black Girls.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
It's just something about seeing like your representation on TV
that's a real family.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
At that time, there were no other little black girls
on yeah, that had just so I was the only
little black girl.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
On That was a big deal. That's why I was like,
thank you know watching that, but listen, Operation Auntie's is
out right now in All Black. I just want to
give both of you, like just the ultimate props just
for your careers where you are today, in the background
that you have, I'm sure y'all have so many stories
that may one day you could tell, just because I
want people to see, Like, it's not like y'all just
(45:25):
became actively like you really put the China scenes and
got into spaces that were not easy to get into,
you know, performing arts. We can see like how important
that is to have that absolutely, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
For our youth development.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, we came from the days of the cattle call.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I remember audition for the series Fame. I'll never forget
this day. I was there.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
First of all, they started outside outside on the street,
and they type they picked you whether they were even
gonna let you audition. So they picked me by physical
They were like, okay, so we will let you audition
because we physically like the way you look. Gave me
a number. That was the first stage.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
For people that don't know what cattle calls are.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
It's like American idol all the line.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
In New York on the street, and imagine how it
feels for people who don't get picked for having the look,
and they stand you on that line and you get
cut right there, like Dan, you don't.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Finished, no, true, you have to say so. Then literally
that's early early in the morning. I got all the way.
It took hours. So we're working our way up the
stairs up in this building in Manhattan. And then so
I finally get up to the part where you learn
the choreography.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Now this is hours of past.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
I'm not even lying to you. I'm not hours. You're stretching.
You got to keep yourself warm. One of my one
of my weaknesses was remembering choreography. So whether I was
with the Ali company or not, we had rehearsals, so
we had time to learn whatever. This was my downfall
when I would go to like Broadway auditions, because it
was quick, so literally they taught it. This is me
(47:06):
after like waiting, like an eight hour day, and I
finally get into the room, I went one, two, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
I mean, oh god, that's how shay it was.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
I was shaking. I literally walked down the stairs slow,
just tears streaming, like I spent the whole day. I mean,
I didn't even get the kickball change. Okay, it was
like one too, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
It was.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
No, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I messed up.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I don't know, but it was.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
I was done, and then you went I should have said,
let me tell you one more time.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
No, it was so hard and you're done.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Damn. I felt that.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, he pointed it like hit me in the face.
It was like a strong point you got to walk
out that door. Don't waste no time, don't get in
our way, get it.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Did you have to Shina de Lena like how you?
And but did you have my like in general, like
do out all this time.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
And this stuff by yourself. I'm coming from Queens on
the training bus with my.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Bag and Sena and I are analogy was anomalaly anomally? Yes? No, listen.
I seen Toshina when I was in Where was I?
I was in Saint Martin, Yes, and we had a time.
She practically lives there. I was. I was in bed
asleep and shout out to my boy g Money. He
calls me like, hey, I'm in the club with Tshina
(48:34):
and she said you should. I was like, get out
and going to the club. Good time, okay everybody. It
was like one am. I got right up it went
because there was no way I was going to pass
that up.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, she's a good person.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
I just want to think both of you. I hope
that we can, like you know, come back and do
some more because I know y'all have the most amazing
stories and this is fine and just like the energy
in here, just congratulations aunties on all black. I didn't
even know it was based on a true story, but
definitely something that may COMBOTX with like you know your
kids too, Like yeah, just m male and female. But
(49:14):
congratulations and I hope to see more of y'all like
hanging out together too. Yes, we love each other all right. Well,
thank you so much, Thank you so much.
What's up.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
It's lift service and the Antela Yee.
Speaker 3 (00:02):
I'm g g maguire, Jordie jor.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Auntie.
Speaker 4 (00:06):
She came.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
And welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is so exciting to have from the stars of
Operation Aunties here with us All Black. That movie just
came out. I of course had a chance to see it.
We did too, write all of us. So congratulations. How
was it for you guys. This is the first time
you guys worked on That's the sometime we.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Worked together together. Yes, ever, we've known him here in
the business for forever.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Yeah, and with Wendy Rockell Robinson, who was also the director, worked.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
With her in the nineties. But I worked with this.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
It was my first time working with her as a
director as well, so it.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Was it was fun.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I have to check because I was like, have they
ever done anything today?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
I know?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah, when I when I heard she saw and on
and I was.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Like, and when I heard they were doing I was like,
oh God, I gotta do this. The chemistry already we
know you doing all day was laughing.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You can actually see the chemistry on on screen too.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Even with that makes me have the three of you guys.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They did a great sasting.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But let's talk about a couple of things in the show.
Because one of the one of the things we find
out about your character early on a form former detective
yep retired a retired detective. You were breaking up with
their husband.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Because because I wanted to have a polyamorous experience.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay, yes, I feel like what man doesn't want that?
We didn't you.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Know why my character's husband did not, right?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, you said passionately.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I was like, yeah, because men are selfish. They want
to they only want to be able to.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, not with two men. They were probably wanted with
two women.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, it doesn't mean you both get to do what
you want, though, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yes, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
That's what we were trying to explore.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Another couple.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
It's like, I don't think it was a situation yeah
or yeah, but I feel like you had a one
person a person.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I think I think my character was just trying to.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Do the movie either way, he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's funny. It's so interesting how like talks about different
ways that people like stay married or are in relationships
are being had that were never being had before. You know,
because I feel like so often you hear people talking
about this now, it's just such a common thing, like
and I feel like, like to your point, a lot
of times it's the one the guy that wants to
(02:50):
be able to like open things up, like the whole
TV shows where that's happening right right right, And I
know gz you wanted to at one point in your life.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
At one point I was in it. I'm not, but
I was in a long term relationship and we were
having like random threesomes because we both wanted to. It
was I mean, I'm not like technically by it. You know,
sometimes no just femalech yeah, but you know sometimes the no,
we were having fine, we were having a good time
with the three SOMs, but I felt like it was
(03:20):
so random, and I'm like, we can't just be out here,
you know, it's crazy out in these streets. So let's
just find a girlfriend and then we can have just
one person that we can trust and you know, we
can be open with and da da da. But yeah,
he wasn't deserving, so it never happened. And now I'm
over that.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
So what do you think, Jordan about redefining what like.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
I mean, I feel like people have to be honest
about what they want, because I feel like that has
led to a lot of breakups and people not feeling
comfortable with their partner about what they want to experiment
with and like what they will or will not tolerate.
But at the same time.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I'm like, I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I don't think that was fine.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I'm not doing it, you know. I just want to
put that out there. Yes, I'm into that, so only
because I don't want my man like doing nothing else.
I just don't if he did, I don't even care
if it's like, oh, I couldn't handle that, Yeah, And
I don't think he could handle that either.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
They usually can't.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I feel like a lot of.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Times it ends to people's relationship, like ends people's relationships,
Like people think that that's what they want, Like, well,
if he's going to do it anyway, or he'll like
it and he'll like me if I do this, and
then they do it and then they regret it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
It seems like it's more one sighted.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Oh absolutely, I know I DDA did it with He
was telling me he did it with someone another girl
he was with, but they added another girl, and then
after they did it together, he went to see the
girl that's almost gonna happen. It's not going to ever.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
That's definitely work to be clean. I don't know anyone
that that was one of the things that was the
most disrespect part of him cheating is that you would
cheat with women that we were with together, and then
you would go and do it behind my back, because
if I didn't already you permission and you know I
want to watch, So why are you keeping it away
from me? Like why sneak shi.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
People think about what they wanted to forget it now
your character and Operation Aunties, you're this text geniuses, which
I love.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I love I love that her character.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Because it's like a bunch of dialogue.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I was going to ask you about that because you
seem like you knew what you were really talking about.
Giving presentations and.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Giving our nervous breakdown is what I was about. Literally,
I don't know anything about that stuff. So you know,
I know I shouldn't keep confessing this, right.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I can't. It's authentic that you really had to work hard.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, but it was really hard, and sometimes I had
to like pastelines in places.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Because it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Like doing my roles.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, and I came on late because teacher was already
attached from a long time ago, so when by the
time I came on, I only had like two weeks,
and so I was having panic attacks because I couldn't remember.
And I don't like being the one on set that
doesn't know their lines.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
That's not me.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm always very prepared and professional. So it did not
feel good. I felt like afraid, you know.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
And it felt that more though, more so than what
it came across, because she's a phenomenal actress.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Me, I was like, let me find out and listen
know all this text I can't.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Even work my iPhone and goes to.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Show how good that.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Didn't think about technology though, just doing a movie like
this and what space we're moving into, just being in
the house and being like, hey, shut this down, hey
do this hey.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yeah, she said.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I would like it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Yeah, she would like it until it turns into make right.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
And I want, like, you know, Martin or something, you know,
I don't know. I want a guy that can just
walk around, you know, the robot to do stuff for me.
I wouldn't mind that cleaning the house and do that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
A housekeeper robot.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Yeah, you know, they don't have make me something out
of you have eyes and ship, but I would just
think that, you know, it would be you.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Woke up and he was standing staring at scary, charging,
charging without me turning him on.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
What if they could give you a massage every night?
That sounds amazing, No.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
That sounds frightening, like we're gonna be touching you on
stuff cold. You know, they could do things I would
if he locks up on your body.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Come on a.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Destination thing.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
All right.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
So let's just say, in a world of technology, what
are some things that you would embrace and wish you
could have in your house? What's that with you? Besides
the vibrator?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Because the way I be master to be hmmm, I
would like some help cleaning. I do a lot of cleaning. Yeah,
I do a lot of cleaning. Maybe fold and put
away the laundry because that's where I always get stuff.
I'm going to the cleaning. It's a big old pollicles
and then the next day I got to revisit that
because now I'm worn out. So maybe just have put
the put the laundry away, all right, finish up.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
That's sane for me because I have a OCD, so
I clean. I love to clean, but I do not
like doing laundry. My mother used to make me do
my brother's laundry and the things that I've seen noaking.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah, man, no, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Even boys. I'm sure you've seen a lot worse.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I taught them how to do their laundry at seven because.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I c t shirts.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
I'm nothing. No, they on their own, ten years old.
They all knew how to work the wash.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I'm not doing it. Mark.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I know you're going to say marks.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The worse.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Oh my god, yes, of course I know what that is.
I was thinking maybe cooking would be nice, like I
would love to cooking. Yes, I would to everything there,
but I would like to throw massages in there. I'm
not gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
No, I don't know. I feel like something be broken.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah, you guys don't want to say that.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
That one I used, But those.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Are ball they're like on a ball hands like, so
you'll okay with a human beings hands on you who
you don't know. But I don't like it either, malfunction.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I'm not I'm not a big massage. I'm not a
big I'm not I'm not a girl like I don't
like to do like the manny petties. I'm not getting
in anyone's mud back. I don't like any of that stuff,
all the things because.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I might be with her on the massage.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Really, I.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Do like it if they know how to do it right.
You know how sometimes you get that person that's too
light on it.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Off.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I think sometimes they want you to fall asleep and
then they don't be doing nothing like the little gentle.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, that keeps me up.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
What about you, Jerdie?
Speaker 6 (10:23):
If you had to definitely the chores, the laundry, clean
the house, make my bed, turn my TV on, run
my back.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You can turn your TV. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Give them something to do, a remote app for the
TV in my bedroom and I'll be on my phone
like yeah, all.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Right now listen a question for you about your character
on the show. So you've been sneaking around with your
ex husband? Okay, is that sneaking?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yees?
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Sneaking behind my girlfriend's back?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean, no one knows, but right purposely you didn't
tell how often and frequent is that? As women, you know,
we love to talk to our friends about everything. Right,
have you ever in real life like dated or you know,
backslid and not told your friends about it because you
were kind of embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
No, no, no, not I know even talk to me
about the stuff. I'm a bore. It's like everyone's going
to go to sleep. No I don't. Yeah, there's no one.
I just tell it. I can't help it.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
No, No, not keeping it a secret.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, I'd be like, yeah, or date somebody that's kind
of embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Oh No, I'm not doing that at all, you know
what I mean. I don't know what the funs like.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I don't want people to know necessarily.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Yeah, like the.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Situationship, Yeah, like somebody or maybe he ain't ship, and like,
you know, it could be any reason.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
They could be any reason he ain't ship.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But you know, because sometimes we tell our friends a lot,
but there's certain things where like I'm gonna just take
this to the grave with me.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Oh I think I've the friends I've had, We've always
told each other everything.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Yeah, so you think no kidding, enjoy Do you ever
dated somebody's been embarrassed?
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Absolutely, most of them, most of them looking back at
and I'm like, these were all mistakes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's why I went.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Celibate for a year or two.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It's clear it.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
Yeah, just clear the roster because it's really hard out here,
especially now. I don't know, the dating cultures is weird.
And I was actually gonna ask y'all that, like, what
do you think was the best time to date?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Like was the nineties?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
It now is not?
Speaker 1 (12:48):
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Let me tell you, I've never really had a been
asked on a proper date by a man and my
life to this day. In my life, wow, I always
had boyfriends, so I went from boyfriend, boyfriend to marriage.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
How did you get from point A to B? What
do you mean?
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Like, how did you get.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
An introduction to boys?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
How does become your Somebody.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Would always like I was always like that catchers. They
wanted to snatch me up. So I always had boyfriends
and I don't have a long roster. I don't have
a you know, a long body count. But we got time.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
No, I don't have.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
So I just went straight from that to marriage. So
the whole dating thing.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Is all we need to get you a proper somebody
asked you one date?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, actually, this one guy took me on.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Like a like a horseback ride, first day mountain.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
You think it's romantic when you think of his back ride.
But if it was physically challenging.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
No, that hurts. Yeah, if you've never you've never ridden
a horse.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
When you get off, you still walk bowlet Yeah, if.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
You know how to ride, you're bouncing.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
That's only. That's only.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
It's a good proper date then, like if somebody was
want to take you, somebody take me.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
To dinner, dinner, to a movie to play. You know,
somebody asked me to have some you know, and I'm
a cheap date.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
I don't even like lobster.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I am too. I don't need seafood, red meat or
park not.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I eat some chicken though, chicken and chicken. Yeah, there
we go. Listen, you know youre a cheap date. Of
all you eat is chicken. That's always a che menu
chick exactly. Listen. I went to this restaurant when I
was where was I was? I an Anguilla and no
Saint Martin, And all they have was seafood. But then
on the kids menu they had chicken fingers and that's
what you had. And I had the chicken fingers, and
(14:47):
I'm gonna tell you this, everybody was like, where'd you
get a chicken from? That was the only thing I
can eat on the menu, all right, So a proper
date for you? Would you would like for somebody to
just ask you, like, hey, I would love to take
you to dinner. Yeah, somebody do this?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
You just said.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I said I never, But that don't mean that I
want somebody right now. Join my freedom.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I love that for you.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, man, freedom is great. But you know, friendship dates
are good too.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I don't know what that is. It's from my generation.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
When they took you out, they expected something like like
I hang out with a millennial. She was like, I mean,
somebody to take me out, but I don't have to put
out them.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You don't, you don't.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But from my generation, that's what we knew.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
You know what I'm sayingast chicken.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And potatoes. That's a shame. I feel like dating is fine,
but like, how do you meet somebody? Because you know
you're you?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
You're you?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Like, how do you? I just feel like that part
is hard because then you know they're texting their homeboys like.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Shelby, like, I hang out with millennials and gen Z
so I could keep it high, keep it popping, keep
it current, right, But.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
My millennial friends said to me, you know you are
not marriage material, and I was like, whoa right, yes
before she was.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Like nah, because all people want to do, all who
want to do is Jake Gina.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
They want to have to a Gina.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Okay, so I was.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
To care for my marriage.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
So but that's a little hard.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You've had other great roles, you know.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That's the fantasized about.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I I guess because Gina was
cool and fun, and you are cool and fun in
your life too, so it's not necessarily it's.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Not far off, so I get the fantasy.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
However, how.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, so I just know I don't do it just
be children.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well I almost called you Shelby because I just said that.
But people also like the girl that's like a little
you know, bougie.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
And that's you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The yeah, and you seem like you just say what
it was on your mind.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
It's not like me. You're like, oh, you're so nice.
When they meet me, they just, I guess expect me
to be a monster or something like and just you know,
like I mean, listen, I know I can be a
lot too. I mean I'm not perfect, but I'm not
that you know.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
What I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
And I'm in my relationship, I'm a libra. So I'm
like overly giving and sometimes at my own demise, do
you know what I mean. Yeah, I literally had to
teach myself to expect what I get, you know what
I mean, I would do a lot of that. I'm
a I'm a caretaker, I like, you know, I take
guys out sometimes, you know what I mean, I'm not
like it's all about me and like what are you
(17:46):
going to do for me? And blah blah blah, and
so almost to where.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's too much.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I understand what you mean. Sometimes you're just too giving. Yeah,
and then that's who I am, and that's why I'm always.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Going to be that way. But at the same time,
you gotta watch yourself, yeah, because you know yeah, And
also it's not healthy anyway to do that in the
first place.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
So you know, So you have discernment when it comes
to dating, Like do you have discernment like with guys?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, I don't. I've never really dated dated that much either.
I've always gone from one long relationship to the next two.
And if I've ever dated, it's always just one time.
And then you I know, I already.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Know, like, say somebody take you on the first date,
what would make you be like, never again. I'm all
of the icks.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
What are yours?
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
What is something?
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I remember one guy when I was like, I was
getting sleepy, I was just like, I don't I don't
remember what happened. I don't remember. Well, there's certain things
like oh gosh, I'm trying to remember because I've never
dated a lot. But oh god, I don't know if
I have an ick. But I know there was. Okay,
this is one thing I do have a thing with.
And I know everyone's going to probably be like, oh god,
(18:54):
if you smoke weed, It's like, I can't. I don't know.
That's not a thing for me. Like if it's if
you're like a a weed smoke or like regularly and
like you smoke as soon as you wake up.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh my god, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I'm like, because you're not ever coherent.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I like, I a gy who would smok before you
even brush his teeth. Oh yeah, like they disgusting. By
the way, if you don't even get up, brush your teeth,
wipe the crust out your eye, like you know what
I'm saying. You get your day, the first thing you
do is roll over and start smoking. I think that's
I do think that's awful. Yeah, And I don't smoke either, Yeah,
(19:30):
but and so I don't like people who like all
day long, but I don't mind people smoking every now
and then. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, No, I don't know. I'm not against it by
any means, but it's just if I'm not if I'm
going to date you, I don't know if if that's
something you do all like every day, I probably couldn't.
All right, So when I'm getting lifestyle, yeah, it's totally
nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
You're not judging. No, I've tried it.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
And then I failed algebra and I have no seriously
because I was. And then I had to go to
night school and I was like, I'm done. I'm cool
the week because it was not fun. You had to
go to night school. That's because I failed. So then
it was in the city that I gotta go to Queen's.
I gotta go back to Queens. It was night time.
I was like, well that was anymore. I'm done. This
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is horrible.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That was you have trauma associated trauma.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
We just brought everything. It just wasn't good. It wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
She said, one bad experience and it was over one
bad experience. I don't even feel like I should say
this all right?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
From smoking weed?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, but I did do ecstasy when it was like,
you know, I didn't even know it was. Yes, I
did it, and it was the longest two days in
my life.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Really.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I just say that I cannot sleep. I was like, yeah,
I was awake. You tried it before too.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
No shrooms did that to me once where I could
not sleep.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, and that's a terrible feeling. And then you look careful, right,
I looked just worn out, scaring, all right, So I
understand that's not a bad ache for you to have.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
What about you X Somebody that calls me Gina, Oh,
that'll do it. My son calls me, that's my job.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
For people who don't know. Somebody showed like I don't
show my kids my work. But when it was one
of the waynses. It was Nollawayan's.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
She was basitting and when I left, I came back,
they were watching the March Show.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Zek was about three years old. From then on he
started calling me Gene.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
That's so funny, hilarious.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
It was like.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, and he still does it to this day. He's fifteen. Now, Gina,
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I know, they have to love the fact that their
mom is like, they don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I bet at school though, they don't care. As a
matter of fact, they asked me to.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Come from my son's school to you know, for Black
History Month and do a speech. And he was like,
you can.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Come, but you you better not tell anybody that I'm your.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Son randomly coming. Yeah, that I'm just randomly coming to
the school.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Not because your son goes.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
To the school.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, No, he didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
He didn't want my son was not a student, Yeah,
not at all.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I just thought it was just some random ladies showing up.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Absolutely like how did y'all get her?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
He didn't want the attention.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
He doesn't.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
He doesn't like a lot of attention. He plays around
with it. But you know, even our our tiktoks, he's like, yeah,
I seen it been this time, but not the next time.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
That's cute. That's good. It means you raised them right though, Yeah,
you know that.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Like I actually wanted them. I didn't want them to
watch my work because I just wanted them to know
me as my mom, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
So that's good.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
I wasn't even like doing a movie like Operation Aunties
and thinking about how these are are. It is a
serious topic that the movie is addressing, but there's a
lot of humor in it too. But there were some
scary moments. The first thing I learned was do not
drink no water And all right, I didn't know. This
(23:00):
is based on the Tuesdays on the Truth.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
TJ.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
A'llli wrote it and it was based on a true story.
He and Wendy really worked the script so that the
story was strong. But yeah, it's based on a true story.
And they and Wendy said, she, you know, did a
lot of research on the dark web and she was
like going down that rabbit hole was that's scary for real,
you know, But yeah, it's based on a true story.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, that is definitely. I've heard that before, like when
you get into uber not to never ever get to
not drink the water and then it's and then also
don't get into one when you're drunk by yourself, I know, yeah,
or even by yourself period, that is like nothing you
can you know safely. I think, do by yourself. That's
(23:45):
why as women we always like go to the club
together and leave together and take together. H Do you
ever feel like has this ever happened to you? You're like,
did somebody put something in my drink?
Speaker 5 (23:55):
No, but that happened to a friend of mine, and
she was fine one second, and then she only had
one glass of wine and then all of a sudden
she was incoherent, and oh.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
My goodness, we had to take her home and so, well,
thank god you did you know you.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I'm not. I've never been a club girl, though I've
gone out, but yeah, I don't. But I always knew, like,
you got to watch your drink. But sometimes you know.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
You can't do anything.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You can't Yeah, you can't be on top of it
all every time.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
That happened to me. Once, I was at my friend's
birthday party and I had one drink and it was
me and my friend. The two of us had one drink,
and we both were so out of it after that
one drink. It was an awful night. I'm just say
that we had a car accident and everything and a
lot of it that I was like, we blacked out.
(24:45):
I only had one I don't even think I finished
the drink, and it was like the worst experience ever,
but thankfully, like everything was okay. Have you ever felt
like that Jordie.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Definitely in college and I actually recently saw this video.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I don't know if anyone else saw it.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
They were showing you how easy it is to slip
stuff and drink, and like, even with a group of people,
you could be mid sentence whether your drink in your
hand and someone's passing by and just throws it and
you have no idea. Yeah, was it like a pill
or was it like a It's like a little yeah,
It's just like you don't even notice, you don't even
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feel anything.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
You know, you don't know what happened.
Speaker 5 (25:23):
If I'm out a lot of times I'll only drink water,
and I have to crack the box.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I don't. I don't drink when i'm out.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, it's crazy, how as when we have to take
so many procrossings because you never know who's actually preying
on you, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
I do remember this one time, yo, there was this
one I was I was I was twenty No, I
was sixteen. I was sixteen, and I went over to
this guy's house and I remember that he kept trying
to get me to drink this Coca cola and I
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was like, I'm good, I'm not thirsty, So I just
kept talking and then he was like, you want some
more food? Eat the food. Eat the food. And I
was like, nah, I'm good, I'm full. And he was like,
so he had to like take me back to Jersey.
I went all the way over there to.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Queens to you know, hang out.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
He was actually a music producer and not a famous one. Yeah,
but when I saw him a couple of years later,
he was like, hey, I want to I want to
take you to dinner and no. He brought this photo
album with him and he and he showed me the
(26:39):
photo album. He was like, you see this and it
was a chair that was nailed to the headboard and
I said, what is this? What am I looking at?
He said that night that you came over, I put
something in your drink, he admitted, And he said I
nailed the chair to the headboard because I was I
(27:00):
want to put you on the chair and I was
gonna do this to you and I was going to
do that to you.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I was like, are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
What?
Speaker 5 (27:05):
If admitted it, and then she told you.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
That he was proud.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
He was proud.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
He showed he had all these other contraptions and handcuffs,
and all kinds of other stuff, and he just showed
me the pictures. He was like, I tried to get
you to drink the coca cola and you wouldn't drink it.
Then I'll put it in your in your spaghetti, and
you wouldn't eat that.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
But every time he tried to give me something.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I don't know, God.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Saying don't don't eat it, don't drink it.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I didn't you hear that in my head? Don't drink that,
don't eat that.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And he had pictures of these things, had pictures and
was proud.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Was proud to tell you that he was trying to
try you what.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
It's giving criminal minds?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Right?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And how did you react? You were like all right?
And the fact that he didn't think clearly, he didn't
think there was anything wrong with that. And he's showing
you this like.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
No he thought.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
And when he when this happened, it was back in
the ninety so I saw him again when I was twenty,
so it was like a four year span afternoon when
I was sixteen.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
And how old was he He had to be old
nineteen twenty at the time when we when we were
going to when he made dinner, but yeah, he was
imagine he probably did that to some other women did Yeah,
there's no way that Oh my god, right, that is right.
(28:27):
And when you think about it, like thinking about it now,
because you know, now seeing a lot of things that
people have happening, and people are like, what didn't somebody
say something like at the time, you're just like horrified,
and it's something that's so like, like, I'm that scary.
Forgot all about that, yeah until just now, until just now.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Yeah, yeah, their.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Life it would have been wait, wait, can you imagine
the type of trauma somebody would have an experience like
that for the rest of your life. But that's why
I'm saying, you said, this is a true story based
on a true story, true story, you know this movie.
That's why all this stuff is so scared. Even when
I was watching it, like there were some great laughs
in there, you know as well, but it's also kind
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of like this is creazy.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
It makes you think.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I think that the wonderful thing about Operational Aunties is
that it is entertaining in every single way. I'm there
for the levity, but you also get to see African
American women be as brilliant as a Steve Jobs. You
know what I'm saying, and for I mean, we haven't
even talked about like what it actually is about.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
It's it's a cyber crime, yeah, drama y, and so
you get to see us be all the things.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
You get to see us be vulnerable, you get to
see us being intellectual, you get to see us be comedic,
you get to see when they even wet.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, there's there's drama, there's something vigilanta.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
You're definitely a who done a vigilante type of thing,
and so you have everything in this movie.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
And I steel like, but it makes you think. It
also makes you think. It also makes you realize that
sometimes it could take so long if you have to
go to the police about something.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Oh yeah, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, the process can feel like injustice.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Yeah, you know, having been famous as long as you
both have, have you ever had like stalker situations speaking
of how long it takes to get because I haven't
a stocker is a really long process. A lot of
times the police won't do anything until something actually happens.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Not in person. I've just had people online where I
just had to block because every morning, every like another
message or you know, what I mean, just stuff, just messages,
but not ever like showing up somewhere.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
When I was on the Martin Show, there was this
guy who would know where I was going to be
before I even knew where I was going to be,
Like if we had to do publicity or press.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
This guy knew anything, and he would call.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
The office of the you know, the Martin Show offices
and tell people I'm going to be there, tell them
I'm going to be there, like he would.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Do that, right.
Speaker 5 (30:57):
And so then one day I'm walking, I'm by myself
in between scenes.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
And nobody was around for some reason.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
The makeup trailer is on my left, and I see
these two guys that looked like they shouldn't have been mere, right,
And so I see them. So I make a quick
left and I go into the makeup tailer and try
not to think about it, and put did something in
the makeup tailer, came back out. They moved closer to
the makeup tailer, right, So I just said, well, I'm
(31:27):
just gonna go on the stage because they look creepy, right,
So I started to walk towards the stage. They said, Tisha,
it's me, right, and so I said, who's me, and
he was like, I'm such and such and I know
you're going to be and I came.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I snuck on this lot to come see you. Well,
here's the thing. Most people think that, you know, I'm Gina,
but bitch, I ain't Gena.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Okay, So I.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Went nuts, right, I started cussing them.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
Out I could, Yeah, absolutely, okay, I don't want to
mess up your sponsor eleven.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I went straight new.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Looking over. He said right and would never and they
both took off running like I was. I was coming
at him right, there's a lot there, but he was
(32:36):
knotted up on him real quick. He's never been back.
I'll do it, I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah, he was like, I stocked the wrong person, all right,
So fortunately for you it's just online annoying line and
just block.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
But then they get a new name, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
This is the same picture that pops up.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I'm like, yeah, so that's it. But even that, the
stalkers and there, Yeah, it's just even though it's just like,
come on, it's just I don't even want to go
online now. Just kind of ruins it. But you know, yeah,
every time, Yeah, it does make my stomach hurt a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
You know what I wanted to ask you as as
far as you doing Alvin Ailey, I know that's intense.
Can you tell me what that experience was like? Because
I'm Ali is so highly esteemed you know here, and
I've listened you know how many times I've been to
like the Alvin Alei Theater and gone to those performances.
But I would love to hear what your experience was like.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay, Well, I started out at the high School Performing
Arts in New York City, which you know the Fame movie,
and so I was a ballet major. Then I took
modern but the dancers also had to take acting classes.
So that's how that got woven in at some point.
But then after, while I was in high school, I
was on scholarship at the Ale School, so I got
a scholarship to take classes. After school, I would go
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to the school, the Aley School, to take classes and
then go home and do my homework and come back
do it all over again. So once I was on scholarship.
When you're on scholarship and they know I'm at Performing Arts,
you know, they start, you see, like I saw they
the head of the company, Sylvia Waters, like she would
come into class and pop in and kind of just look,
and so you knew if she would pop in and
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like she's kind of sculping out who's she's going to
bring into the company next. And so literally after I
think I had just graduated, was about to graduate. It
was in my senior year and I was in the
kitchen with my mother and she called. She was like,
this is Silvia Waters. I was like, well, anyway, She
was like, would you like to join us? And I
said of course, so yeah, so you know, so while
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so I got in by being on scholarship there, so
they kind of see you in the class, and then
she just asked me to join the company. So but
it was hard. I mean, the choreography is hard, and
you know, just like acting, it's it's funny because Alvin,
it wasn't his ballets were kind of like theater piece.
(34:57):
They were they were you were characters. It wasn't just
like movement. It's like each like there was a part
for tall girls, were part for shorter girls, and then
you it was an acting piece almost characters that they were.
You were cast as characters, so you know, sometimes there
was a little type casting. I was like, oh, I
wish I could do that part, but it's he created
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things just by you know, body type and all this
other stuff. But that's what I loved about it. So
it was kind of acting as well. You know, the
ballets are very still, they're very dramatic, and they're very
heartfelt and there's you know, a lot of history to it.
And only one time, one time there was a ballet
called Streams, and it was very very hard. You know.
I wasn't like the one that had like the six o'clock,
(35:40):
you know, and you know the whatever, you know what
I mean, Like I can my develope wasn't up to
my head. It wasn't one of those. But I had
my strengths. And so one time I had a private
rehearsal with him and it was so scary, but I
got to like he was sitting there, sitting there watching
me do He's like rehearse the solo, and he like
(36:01):
fitted to me because I had my body was different
than maybe the other person that did it, so he
kind of molded it to what I to my strengths.
So I'll never forget that.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
That's such a big deal.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
It was huge. It was scary, but and then after
he passed whatever. Then I had a rehearsal with the
first who took over. She was like, it's all wrong,
like she didn't know it anyway. But it was it
was a it was an amazing experience and it was hard.
(36:33):
It was hard, but I wouldn't give it up.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
It was one of the some of the best times
even the high school. It was just some of the
best times in my life. But it was difficult. It
wasn't easy. It's really hard choreography and hard on the body.
And yeah, so after that, I was still taking acting
classes and then I just kind of transitioned. I did
some musical theater and stuff like that. But you know,
that just it was just like a kind of like
a you know, like what's the word I'm looking for.
(36:57):
It was just like a smooth transition from the dance
to but yeah, it was it was grueling, like I
had like back problems and you know, because yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Something you can continue to do.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Fur yeah a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
And that sounds interesting to me that you don't like
massages like that, because it feels like it would do
you some good.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
No, I mean I had to have I didn't have.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Masses Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
You know you know when they you know, the woman
gets on top of you and stuff like that, she
bends you and stuff. So yeah, I've had those and
those are actually good.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
What about occupacture? You ever do that?
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
And I kind of feel like, well, what are these
needles doing? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I'm sure it works, but you know you want are
you into yoga?
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I have done like the hot yoga where it's really hot,
and you know, it was good because I had I
could stretch, you know what I mean, so I could
do the positions. But that's hard to that I had.
Favorite's so good. It is so like sweat so much.
I probably should go back to that. I tried to
(38:01):
take a ballet class the other day and I said
I stayed too long. I stayed too long in the fair, you.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Know, that's all.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I stayed too long and like now my back is hurting. Yea.
I have a dance background in my mind.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I went to Arts high school. I took byle since
the age of in Philadelphia.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah, I was.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, dance was like my dream, like a police I
can only imagine. Unfortunately, I got pregnant in high school
and that ended my that part of my dance career.
I ended the band stripper, but that's a whole different story.
But I'm looking at Yeah I was. But that's why
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I love yoga so much because I still get to
have that movement. And I would love to take an
adult ballet class. I think that would be good.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
You live here in New York.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I live in Atlanta, but here, but I'm always here.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
The Steps, Steps, And don't get we.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Don't tell me that it was bad because.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
I went. I had no business. I went to like
I was my mind. You know, you think I saw
myself still doing what I was doing. So yeah, no,
the bar was great. But then I tried to go
in the center and you know, start jumping around. There's like,
okay this I just limped off to the side. I
didn't because I didn't take it slow. I just what
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to do.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
I could not do it.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
It was just so good.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
But you know they have beginners classes at Steps.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
You can go there.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
It's just I took the beginners of ballet because just
to go take the bar and just work it.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Out and everything.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, you can just do that. It's a great.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
It's like it's also great like for you in the
of course, yeah, being flexible like that, like, yeah, she
didn't even hear what I said. That's from probably great
for in the bedroom, like ballet, and to clarify that, yeah, yeah, listen,
(40:04):
I want to it's great too.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I mean it's a it's an art form I took.
When you're good, like just walk them. It's not easy.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Workout. It only works out in my life, honestly, and
it's it's full body, is cores, upper strength. But then
it's a mental thing too, because you see the professional
dancers and the women who are on the pole and
you have not one of those women. You see those
women doing it, and you're like, oh my god, wow,
I wonder how you do it. And then when you learn,
it's such an accomplishment and it's so good for the
(40:36):
self esteem. I taught those classes for a really long
time after that.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
And that to be able to.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Break.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
And you know, you look like you've always had some
Like watching you on TV and your roles, it just
looks like you're having such a good time incorporating everything
that you did do a dancer.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
You are no everybody thinks I am I faked it. Sorry,
go ahead, I've asked, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
It's okay, take your time.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Sorry. So everybody thinks that I'm a dancer, but I
was never a dancer. I would fake it. Even my
agent would send.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
Me out on dance auditions because they first saw me
in a musical on forty second at Theater Row and they.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Assumed that I was a dancer.
Speaker 5 (41:26):
But no, I was never a dancer. And I had
to beg them to stop sending.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
Me on dance auditions.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Oh my god, I would grab it if I was fifteen.
And when I first got my agent, I was like, well, they.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
Must believe in me because I should really do this.
And that was horrible.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
And even for the audition for school days, you had
to do the acting audition and then the callback was
the dance audition. I didn't know it was a callback,
and so they had told me, yeah, you know, I
want you to come in for this dance audient. I
was like, mm, I'm not coming. I'm not going over there,
and they then Robbie Reid called me back. I was like,
(42:05):
te sher, this is the callback for school this.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I was like, oh, I can be there.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
You know what happened was I said, okay, okay, okay, okay,
I'm come, but Robbie, tell me what the first audition
is and your last audition. She was like, it's nine
am and six pm is the last auditions. I was like,
give me the six pm. I show up at nine
am and watch everybody else. No, now watch I'm in
the I'm learning the.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Choreography from nine o'clock until six. I didn't take a
water break. I didn't take a food break.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
I just worked until I could get it in my
body good enough so that.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
I could try to do.
Speaker 7 (42:50):
Because every okay, she says, you know that said to me, listen,
you have the moves down, but I'm eighteen.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
You lack sensuality.
Speaker 5 (43:11):
So me and Jasmine were standing next to each other,
Jazmine guy, and so he says, so I'm gonna have
you guys take sensuality classes.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
And when what the fuck is that? Right?
Speaker 5 (43:24):
So he goes, I want you to spell the words
sensuality centraally, and so Jasmine went first, she.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Goes, s E.
Speaker 5 (43:37):
And how you spell it? But from this part right here,
he was like, just pretend your breasts are on fire.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
So it wasn't just this. So that's why I have.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
But that's my favorite part of the movie that want
to be seen. That's what that's.
Speaker 5 (44:11):
They gave me two weeks ahead of time before all
the other real dancers came in and me and Kime
we worked really hard together and that I was lacking
did a girl?
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Thank you and listen Nothing and Nothing one of my
favorite shows that to this day i'd be like, they
should have never raxed to Riches was mine?
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Oh that was you that watched that? That was you?
Speaker 5 (44:39):
Oh my god, that's making me sing, oh little Witches sauce.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Let the Black Girls.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
It's just something about seeing like your representation on TV
that's a real family.
Speaker 5 (44:55):
At that time, there were no other little black girls
on yeah, that had just so I was the only
little black girl.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
On That was a big deal. That's why I was like,
thank you know watching that, but listen, Operation Auntie's is
out right now in All Black. I just want to
give both of you, like just the ultimate props just
for your careers where you are today, in the background
that you have, I'm sure y'all have so many stories
that may one day you could tell, just because I
want people to see, Like, it's not like y'all just
(45:25):
became actively like you really put the China scenes and
got into spaces that were not easy to get into,
you know, performing arts. We can see like how important
that is to have that absolutely, you know.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
For our youth development.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, we came from the days of the cattle call.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
I remember audition for the series Fame. I'll never forget
this day. I was there.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (45:50):
First of all, they started outside outside on the street,
and they type they picked you whether they were even
gonna let you audition. So they picked me by physical
They were like, okay, so we will let you audition
because we physically like the way you look. Gave me
a number. That was the first stage.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
For people that don't know what cattle calls are.
Speaker 5 (46:08):
It's like American idol all the line.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
In New York on the street, and imagine how it
feels for people who don't get picked for having the look,
and they stand you on that line and you get
cut right there, like Dan, you don't.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
Finished, no, true, you have to say so. Then literally
that's early early in the morning. I got all the way.
It took hours. So we're working our way up the
stairs up in this building in Manhattan. And then so
I finally get up to the part where you learn
the choreography.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Now this is hours of past.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
I'm not even lying to you. I'm not hours. You're stretching.
You got to keep yourself warm. One of my one
of my weaknesses was remembering choreography. So whether I was
with the Ali company or not, we had rehearsals, so
we had time to learn whatever. This was my downfall
when I would go to like Broadway auditions, because it
was quick, so literally they taught it. This is me
(47:06):
after like waiting, like an eight hour day, and I
finally get into the room, I went one, two, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
I mean, oh god, that's how shay it was.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
I was shaking. I literally walked down the stairs slow,
just tears streaming, like I spent the whole day. I mean,
I didn't even get the kickball change. Okay, it was
like one too, thank you.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
It was.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
No, man, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
I messed up.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I don't know, but it was.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
I was done, and then you went I should have said,
let me tell you one more time.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
No, it was so hard and you're done.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Damn. I felt that.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah, he pointed it like hit me in the face.
It was like a strong point you got to walk
out that door. Don't waste no time, don't get in
our way, get it.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Did you have to Shina de Lena like how you?
And but did you have my like in general, like
do out all this time.
Speaker 3 (48:07):
And this stuff by yourself. I'm coming from Queens on
the training bus with my.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Bag and Sena and I are analogy was anomalaly anomally? Yes? No, listen.
I seen Toshina when I was in Where was I?
I was in Saint Martin, Yes, and we had a time.
She practically lives there. I was. I was in bed
asleep and shout out to my boy g Money. He
calls me like, hey, I'm in the club with Tshina
(48:34):
and she said you should. I was like, get out
and going to the club. Good time, okay everybody. It
was like one am. I got right up it went
because there was no way I was going to pass
that up.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
Yeah, she's a good person.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
I just want to think both of you. I hope
that we can, like you know, come back and do
some more because I know y'all have the most amazing
stories and this is fine and just like the energy
in here, just congratulations aunties on all black. I didn't
even know it was based on a true story, but
definitely something that may COMBOTX with like you know your
kids too, Like yeah, just m male and female. But
(49:14):
congratulations and I hope to see more of y'all like
hanging out together too. Yes, we love each other all right. Well,
thank you so much, Thank you so much.
Host
Angela Yee
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