LS Episode 512: the Truth Behind Magic City (feat. Jermaine Dupri

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up and slip service. I mean, I'm guire, I'm
Jeordie jor j is here with us. Man, We're so

(00:23):
happy that you're here. And you know, I feel like
you got to lead on this because, oh my god,
this Magic City docuseries. I had a chance to see
two episodes. I saw two of the most important things
on one of them. Yeah, right now. But honestly, we
were watching some of it at work and well done.

(00:45):
Like everybody was talking about how just well produced. This
docu series is just the whole backstory, everything that we
did not know. It's like riveting and then getting to
see some of the women that used to work at
the club and when it first opened, the story of
even how it opened.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
It's amazing. So congratulations, I mean, you know, you always
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I mean I ain't do all that work, so I
gotta congratulate everybody else. I just you know, did my
little part. But yes, it was put together with.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
I still haven't seen like the entire all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, I haven't either. That's crazy that I.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Know.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
You're excited though, But of course there's a soundtrack to
go with it.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Yeah, well, well, actually it's not the same. Well this
is a soundtrack.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
But I tried to do the soundtrack and Stars didn't
want to do the soundtrack.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
So then it was like.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I had already got into it. I was so wrapped
into it. I was just like, I'm gonna stay with
this and I'm just gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
Make it a new Jermaine. The pre album inspired by
Magic City.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Documentary and why not turn Around?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, turn Around?

Speaker 1 (01:45):
I missed songs like that. I feel like people are
not really doing that so much anymore. That's a fun song.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, men are not making songs with tempo period, you
know what I mean, Like the men rap male rappers
not making like a lot of songs with tempo. So
but I think that is because males don't really dance
like they don't have a you know.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
I think they want to see the acid shop. They
want to see the acid shake, so they need to
make music that.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
I just I don't think if a man is like,
go to clubs now, they don't. They just want to
hang out.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
They want to just drink and just stand around dance.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
I think I think it's glad that their boots on
the ground came into this era, so now.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
People want to dance might come back, and.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
It's actually coming back, definitely coming back.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Bringing the dance floors back to the club where you go.
Like I was in Detroit and I was in the
casino right and you know how they have like the
club and the mother casino. But anyway, they were they
were for real dancing.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Like line dancing or dancing dance like line dance something,
but like all night.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, it was packed. So I feel like it depends
in certain places where you go, like they really do
go out and dance, and when it's many, there's so
many line dances, there's so many songs that have choreos
that in.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
New York bringing it back, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
So hopefully that involves into just regular dancing. Note Wario
at the Greek Picnics, they're dancing, They're dancing. That's what
we need to be Greek.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I can tell you that it should pledge now, yes, Angela, no, no,
she's yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
She sent me a text Monday. I was like, what
are you talking about? She said, we should pledge. I
think we should. I still think we should. I'm working
as a mission.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I said it as long as you have for forever. Yeah,
I couldn't pledge because I never went to school.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Does that matter? Yeah, it does matter.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah, have your degree, but you can still be like
an honorary Yeah you know, blah blah blah. Okay, well listen,
So talk to me about the whole process of like
how you even with this Magic City docuseries, because I
remember when Gigi first started talking about it's a long
process for people listening, like it ain't like you do
a docuseries and then you know, Jermaine Dupree's attached to it,

(03:54):
Drake's attached to it, it's on stars. It was a
long process to get it to where it got to now,
So can you talk about that?

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah? So, I mean initially.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
We it was an idea first about I talked with
Magic about this like two weeks ago. Initial idea came
from like it was like a whole conversation about Atlanta.
It was just gonna be like a story about things
that happened in Atlanta and just people was gonna tell
the story of Atlanta. But then I feel like everybody's
story about Atlanta stops in Magic City and it starts

(04:26):
becoming like, wait, so you was there too, you was there,
or you have a story about Magic City? It started
being like so many people have stories about magic in
their own stories, right, like your story that you're gonna
tell us about. Yeah, So I think everybody's story their
first time going to magic or whatever time going to magic.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Everybody's story is different. Right.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Something happened some whatever, whatever happened, And I think that
that's what led to maybe we should just talk about
Magic City. We should put like everybody's stories back to
back and talk about this, that and the third and
then get into magic himself because you don't see or
hear a lot about magic.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Was that hard to get him to be will? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, he won't with it, but you know, like you
have a lot of conversations with him about this. Like
I feel like in black culture, we don't actually like
love our things the way we're supposed to.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Right. They got a whole movie about.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Studio fifty four, right, and they talking about how much
cocaine somebody was doing in the bathroom and ladies roller
skating and horses.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Coming like they're telling this whole story, don't.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
We don't have that type of conversation about Magic City, right,
It's more about a black man moving to Atlanta trying
to get make a living working somewhere else, getting get
you know, me leaving that job and figuring out how
to start his own club and then not being able
to pay the employees and him actually working all the
positions inside the club.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
It's a story that I just feel like, if you are.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
You want to be an entrepreneur, you want to make
own a restaurant or something like that, you should hear
this conversations is forty years. You know, it's an institution
that's been open for forty years.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Forty blacks.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I feel like it's definitely the most popular stip club ever.
If you ask me, like anybody that knows about strip clubs,
Magic City is like it's kind of like how Petron
used to be for a tequila or how like you know,
Gray Goose used to be for vodka, like strip club
Magic City. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
I mean, like for me, I always you know, I
came in that I was younger, so I couldn't I
didn't go. I mean, I haven't been around for the
whole forty years, but I think like I always wanted
to know, like what was the girl picking process in
the beginning. I think that that was the key to
Magic City's real success.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
And they talk about that. I saw that part in
the docu series.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, I ain't really seen that part because I want
I want, I want to know that from myself, like
how White Chocolate got to that club with who found her?
Like I don't you know what I'm saying, Like I don't.
It's a lot of that stuff that I feel like
that's what makes the difference in this club compared to
the other club, any other club, you know what I mean,
Like because even like I remember, like Trey, he used

(07:16):
to come to Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
He always wanted to go see gig everything going to
Magic City. When you get in there, you see like
people have their favorite people, right, you know what I'm saying.
It's just like and it's like a I don't even
know what you call it.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
It's just what's your favorite? Like who would you say?
In different eras?

Speaker 3 (07:35):
I mean I think it was I'm friends with everybody,
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I still was like messised, how.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Hard is that for you when you go in there,
like because you're friends with everybody, and then there's an
expectation like JD's in the club.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
You know, well, I used to have this what do
you call it?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
It's not a rumor, but.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
What is this thing called? They thought that I only
like light skined girls. So it's like, I guess a
little chatter in the locker room, then I ain't like
brownskin girls or something like that. He don't dance though
brownskin girls. He only like light skin girls.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I never heard that.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
This was somebody told me, and I'm like what, And
then so I switched it just because I heard it.
So you started dancing brownskin girls that I wasn't even
like like trying to get at them. I just was
doing it just to see if then I start. Then
I became friends with these people. Like it wasn't even
about me trying to like look at them. From that,
I just was dancing. I'm like, just to have fun.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
So then I just became friends with everybody club. It
don't even be like you.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Know what I mean, it's because And that's another thing
I want people to understand. I don't go to I
don't go to strip the strip club because it's sexual.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's work.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
It ain't even work.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
It's fun because it just fun. But it's kind of
fun work. So you see what records Because I feel
like you, as an executive, you're always kind of like
analyzing things right. It is still fun, but it's work
right because you're also seeing what works, what are people liking,
what are people dancing to? You get in by some
music after that, you know what I mean. At the

(09:02):
same time, it's because you can write it off on
your taxes, right.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Maybe I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Maybe it helps you clear your mind like you can.
I could be going like through a long day like today,
I had all this press. If I could go to
Magic City, it was like, next two hours, It'll just
relax me.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Just like, but don't you obligated to have to throw
money when you go? No.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I was just explaining that you to Fat Joe because
he said he made the make It Ring song. He
felt like that was his first three.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Months he had he did he did have to.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, but you're don't have to. It's a secret to this.
You don't have to stand in that eight. You can
walk around the club. That's what I'm saying. I learned
that you will walk around, go to the DJ booll,
go talk to the waitresses at the bar. You don't
have to stand there and stay in the fish.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
You don't have to.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Stay somebody like money anything or make it.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
You gotta throw money, why come out?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I'm saying, like, you ain't good dollars.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
You could throw that out. You could throw five hundred
dollars and still look like.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
People fail to realize. They think that you got to
go to the strip club and just spend a lot
of money. You don't like, you could just go chill.
You could just go vibe out, hang out, smoke kookah.
I see j D in the club all the time,
and he's not always throwing a bunch of money. Almost
every time I'm in Magic JD's there were always there
at the same time.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
It seems like and does he throw it up? Absolutely?
But does he have to do? You expect him to
do it?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Even when I was dancing, Like there's some people that
you know is gonna come in there and do what
they do.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
But when they don't, it's like, oh he chilling today,
and that's okay.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Yeah, I mean, I think.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
In Atlanta though, also, throwing money is a way for
people to pay attention to you.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Sometimes I don't want you paying attention to you, know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
It's like the sparklers come out, like don't bring them,
don't come.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, like That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
So I think like the throwing the money is like,
you know, ball of walking to you with all this money,
everybody looking, who is to see where the money going.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
It's like, that's that's for you as as a person.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
So like the younger rappers and the younger artists that
want to get on, that's they that's their thing. I'll
go stand over them in the corner, smoke my hooking
and watch and see what's going on.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
So, since you talked about your the process of selecting
the women gg, yes, how was that process for you
when you started working in Magic City.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
So my story is I was bartending and I hadn't
danced in two years, and I came to Atlanta. I
was in the process of moving there, and I was
with a friend who was working at Medic City, and
she would always try to get me to come to
Atlanta and work with her from Philly. But I was
one hundred and ten pounds and an acup and in
my mind, I'm like, I'm not gonna make no money
in the South. They like bick girls, right, So then

(11:50):
when I'm forced to move to Atlanta, we know that story,
and I'm in Magic City and I'm watching and I'm like,
these girls ain't even dancing and I had this amazing
dance bad So I learned that they have an amateur
night contest.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
This was back at when they did. They don't do
it anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
So Monday, I watch A Magic City from three to three,
Open the Clothes. Tuesday, I'm back and my friend is
working and the girls start talking to me and they like,
you should do this amerate night contest. So I'm like,
I don't know, because in my mind I'm like, I'm
gonna get up on that stage and nigger like boom,
y'all get what splitch you could do?

Speaker 5 (12:21):
You know?

Speaker 2 (12:22):
So but you know the hustler in me, I don't
really turn down too many checks. So she was like,
well you could. Even if you don't win, you still
get to keep your tips. So I'm like, fucking I'm
gonna do it. So rest in peace of DJ Nan
though glove him down. I went into the DJ booth
and I'm like, I'm about to do this amateur night contest.
I don't know none of this music. I don't I
haven't danced in two years, and I want to do it,

(12:44):
but I'm a little scared, so like, what should I do?

Speaker 1 (12:46):
And he was like, what do you What did you
dance to when you dance?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
And I'm like, Michael Jackson teen turned Jackson, I worked
at white clubs, but that's not gonna work in Philly.
That's where I came from. I came from Delilahs. That's
like a cheetah for those who don't know if our
land of people. So I got on stage and he
played want to be starting something? Michael Jackson, Yes, and

(13:13):
tipping tiny was in age and when I tell you,
I danced boots to the ground, danced my ass off.
When I got off, I'm not that's a seven minute song,
Mama said, Mama right there.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
He said that a lot.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I danced the entire seven minutes like my life depended
on it. And I literally like at that moment, I
was in my zone because I'm a dancery heart.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Get off stage. Big Match comes up to me. He's like,
who are you? Where'd you come from? You need a job?

Speaker 4 (13:36):
You work?

Speaker 1 (13:36):
You want a job?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Because I need to see that, and I'm like, I
bartend I want to work. He's like, no, the fuck
you don't you want to do that? He said, come
back tomorrow. Tell them I'm Magic. Tell him I hired you.
Come back tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Do your paperwork.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I need to see that on my stage every night.
And then my friend came up like, well he just
said you know who that is? And I'm like, he
said his name was Magic and she was like, that's
the owner, bitch, what he say? And I was like,
he told me that I should dance, like to get
a job, like come work here.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
And she was like a.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Movie jacket, right, and she was like if you don't,
She's like, if you don't, you dump the bitch iver
met and I'm like okay. So we go in the
next day and I fill on paperwork at my permit
and within a year I have my own stage.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
That damn within a year. It was the twentieth year anniversary.
I was just about I was like, human nature, what
do you mean again? What music? Oh? I had to
fall in I had to learn.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah, I had to watch and learn.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
I had to learn and dance everything else.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
This was two thousand and five, so it was g Z,
Gucci T Yeah, you know, it was that Nickey rain.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
It was that era, you know. So I just had
to fall in line and learn. I learned the motivation
one on.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
What ever got them living it? Walk it out?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, I had Jackson to absolutely good.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Twentieth year anniversary. We're now about to celebrate the fortieth
year anniversity. So this was twenty years ago, and yeah,
I felled in that place. By the time I was
had my last dance, they were like, why the fuck
are you leaving?

Speaker 1 (15:04):
But we all know that story. Yeah I know that story.
Do you remember your first time going to Magic City?

Speaker 4 (15:09):
No, well I do, I do, because I thought.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
That weren't supposed to be there.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Yeah, I wasn't. I didn't get in.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
That's that's my memory because I thought like, just because
I had money, I could get in and I was
I was nineteen, and they was like, nah, you ain't
getting in here. And so I always felt like I
had a chip on my shoulder a bout Magic.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
I was mad, right, I think.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
And then.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
The club burnt down and then Gentlemen's Club open and
so I was like more Gentlemen's club guy at this
but it's cause Magic wasn't open. And then when Magic
came back, I started going to Magic and like, I
think the magic magic, Like I said, Magic City situation
has always been the dancers though the dancers. The dancers

(15:57):
drive the momentum in that club.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
To me, maybe y'all need to do another amateur night.
I've been the law.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think it's against the law in some sort of
way because I tried to get them to bring it
back and I wanted to like host it. But I
talked to my key about it, who was Little Magic,
and he was saying like something about the law.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
That's why they stopped doing it. Something against the law,
because you know, the dancers got to have permits.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
So yeah, dance with Michael Jackson Neckett.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I did not take my clothes off, That's what I'm saying.
So yeah, so they.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Could do it not now, I did not take the
amateur contest. We need to figure out to great problem.
Speaking of promos, my leg remember the conversation we had
about being in the ogs Back for one night only.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
You know, we really want to do that, right, who's
me the snack pack O g India mona Row.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
It's about six and the Yeah, that a little era,
we want to do it.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
I'm stretching. I stretched this morning.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Snack you I can call b whya pack? What happens?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
What happened to the snack pack? Well after I left,
can you explain what the snackpack is? Because remember, everybody
don't know. Everybody don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
So taking it back to when I got my own
stage set, it was you remember Fierce Jojo?

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I don't know. Anyway, there was me and Fierce. It
was gg and Fierce.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
They Mikey Little Magic realized that we were the only
two girls out of the whole let's say it was
one hundred and fifty girls working on the Monday. We
were the only two doing poetriits that many people worked
on a Monday. Absolutely one hundred and fifty, absolutely crazy,
absolutely no exaggeration, one hundred and fifty dancers in the rotation.
So we would so the rotation that goes like first Come,

(17:44):
First Earth. When you walk in, you pay, they put
you on the list. So it literally got to the
point where girls would like wait for us to walk in,
so that did get put on the list with us.
So that because they knew that we was gonna do
the poetricks and that we got to split the money.
So Mike he took he to that and was like,
I'm about to take you all away from that I'm
gonna get y'all y'all own set. So this is when
twelve o'clock and two o'clock starts. It was just me
and Fierce, so would have come out so you didn't

(18:05):
have to slit the money.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
A rotation would shut down.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
It would be twelve o'clock, me and Fierce would come
on stage, and then a rotation will go back, and
then at two o'clock we would do it again and
then rotation will come back.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
So now we're only splitting that money just us too. That,
aren't it.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
About a year or two of that, she decided she
don't want to dance no more, and now I'm stuck
by myself. So my option is to go back into
general pop and share my money with Now two four
people were I'm the only one doing poetricks, and I
didn't want to do that. So at the same time,
Onyx was opening up in Philly, and Philly never had
a booty club. So I went back home in Philly
for a good like six and I was running up

(18:40):
the bag and ONX, and then when that kind of
slowed down, I'm like, all right, let me take my
ass back home.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
You know, I really do live in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
So I come back and Mikey's like the itty biddies
is what he called them, because they're all like five
foot one, one hundred pounds, and He's like they've been
low key taking over twelve and two on the low.
Like we ain't made it official, but if you want
to make it official, say the word and y'all pack.
So I'm like, all right, got fuck with them, let's
do it. So we wanted to name ourselves something else,
which was very corny. What was the n PA, like

(19:07):
the NBA. I wanted to be the National Poll Association. Yeah,
that was that was wet. But since we're all and
again I'm still one hundred and ten pounds at the time,
I was in the a cup. No more, I was
a tea cup at the time, but I'm still pounds
and so there, I'm we're.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
All little bite sized.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Dj Esco start calling us the snack Pack and it
just stuck. So the snack Pack was Magic Cities. Even
though g G and Joja was first, Me and Fierce
was first, we got recognized as a snack pack because
it's five of us, so it would do.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
We would be on the.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
Pole, same damn time doing sit ups and standing on
each other's surfboard, all of the sideways, all of the tricks.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
At the same time, and people would really come to
see that show.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Yeah, this was like so late.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, they would us.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
It was.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
They would call us the Theatrical Ballet. Ty ty you
started that.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Lim and all of them would come in here and
they would call us the Theatrical Ballet. And we would
get on stage at twelve o'clock and two o'clock and
we would.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Do our thing.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Then somebody ain't want me to dance no mo because
I don't know what happened. I was warter bottles or
whatever the fuck I did, and he said, bitch no.
So when I decided that I was going to retire,
they continued on. But there were two girls who was
like sneaky strippers, so they didn't want to do anything
like marketing, no pictures, no promo, you know. And I

(20:27):
had us traveling, we were features. We were all number
of the United States, Mexico, Canada, dancing.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Proudly doing what I do, doing what I do.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, And so it kind of like fizzled out. Then
Pea Valley happened, so they got casted to do two
of the girls got casted to do Pea Valley and
the club didn't like the way Pea Valley came in
there and kind of just snatched them away without going
through the club. And when they couldn't come to work
because they were on set at Pea Valley, they was like,
well stay at Pea Valley, don't come back.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
So and that there's a whole other story now.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, so Urgo and Simone who was the other two
dancers who were you know, going traveling with me and
we are known as a trio because the other two
girls was like sneaky stripers.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Nobody knew they dance.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
They are actually actresses on p Voley season one two
and they have a developed character coming up in season
three and going back to this one night only performance
that we're trying to do, I definitely can get them
to come do it with me.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
I think, yeah, should do it for the.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Thing.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
You gotta get up run the club. So this is
I have nothing to do with the club. I'll make
a suggestion.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Talk the Magic into doing this docu saries and being.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
That I mean, I mean, it's a bunch of conversations
my father, my father was speaking to Magic a lot,
and there's other people that you know, Greg Johnson, look,
a lot of people that that had to like talk
to Magic and just like one, you know, mhm, Magic
knows I'm not going to I mean, I hope he knows.

(22:02):
I'm not getting ready to do anything to like put
the club in the band like right, because even like
I'm listening to gg talk right now, I don't know
nothing about what she's talking about, like what's happened, what
happens down them steps down.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
I don't go.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
I don't go downstairs. That's not I don't work at
the club, so I don't know. I'm I come in
there and I spent my from view. Yeah, so from
my point of view, like I told her, you know,
I was telling Magic this before. I'm like, yo, I
would never I wouldn't do nothing to mess up this
because this is where I go. This is actually my
real life. So I'm not trying to I don't want
to do nothing that's gonna make this club have a

(22:34):
bad eye because this is where I go. Like I
was just there last night drinking the same thing I'm
drinking right now, right, and and.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
I got on a plane at five in the morning
to come here, But I was in Magic all night.
I was last night.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
So so I'm just saying like it's like it's my
real life. But like I said, I'm listening to the story.
I don't know nothing about. She talking about like putting
the names on the board. I don't that's not so.
I'm interested in knowing what happens downstairs, right right, So.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
People are interested at this go from the front door
to the d y rotation. They still do that.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
If we pay at the door, we pay to get
in the club, just like everybody else, and it goes
up by the day of the week and the time
you get there. You can pay twenty Well, in my dad,
you can pay twenty five dollars. You could pay two
hundred figured dollars depend on what.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
So what is what is it dance? What's the dance cost?

Speaker 1 (23:22):
Well, it was ten dollars a song back then. I
don't know what it is now.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I'm saying back then, it's never changed. That's what it's
ten dollars a song.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
It should be.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
And what they're charging y'all now, I believe I don't
pay per song. They don't charge people per song. That's
making it rain.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Well, you make it rain all.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Them thousands, and they come back and say, I didn't
say twenty songs.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Know that what I'm saying, that's the I think that
that's the crazy part about it is that the pricing
has never changed right now, so you start throwing hundreds
and hundreds and hundreds. It's like I said this to
somebody one day. I'm like, you know, you know what,
I ain't supposed to dance, but for ten dollars. Yeah,
you throw somebody at one thousand dollars or getting ten
dollars dance.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
That's a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, that is true. I didn't know that it was
only ten dollars, so you can really just get somebody
only ten dollars. So if I walk up to I
feel like that's not fair. Yeah, ten, that's the dance.

Speaker 5 (24:12):
Dance to you.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
It's a song. It's a full song. If I walk
up to you at the bar and say, hey, would
you like a dance? And I dance for two songs,
you owe me twenty dollars and I'm gonna get fully
naked and you owe me twenty dollars.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
And you can choose to or not. You know, I
was bad. It's twenty dollars because that just feels like
that's a lot of work and I'm only give you
ten dollars over tip, especially now with the Naked rain era.
Still when you walk away and somebody only gave you
ten dollars in no tip, like I'm not doing definitely
walking away.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
That's because I had a story like that.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Why when you first start throwing the money. I was
throwing the money on the ground. The girl looked at
me and she was like, you want me to get
down there and.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Pick up my money?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Like this was before people had somebody picked the money
up for the you know. She was like, you want
me to get on the ground and get my money,
And I was like, you didn't realize it's like five
hundred dollars down there. I'm only supposed to give you
ten dollars, right, Because what happens in the club and
the DJ, they'll play the same song five times right basically,

(25:20):
So that means the song never actually gets to play.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
All the way out.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Somebody me or d yes the song ever plays all
the way out. You never get your full song. You're
gonna get the first part of it. He's gonna take
it back.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Talk.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
So if you pay. You know, if you throw five
hundred and she only supposed to be getting ten.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
That's interesting because so they didn't that. When did that start?
Like somebody picking up the money for you? I picked
up my own money, So it started after I left.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
They didn't have that.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
I mean they just started.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
They just started having somebody actually do that.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
They also just started the whole wristband thing. We didn't
have riskbands when I was rispands.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
They remember the rooms when Magic had the rooms, the
private rooms.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
I wasn't there there.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yes, they used to have They used to have a section,
there's a whole thing, a section where you come in
Magic and used to go up these steps and they
had private rooms where you couldn't see what was going
on in the private rooms.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
In order to get up the steps, you had to
have these bands.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Do you feel like this documentaries has re energized like
the music that you want to make now just to
kind of I know you wanted it to be with stars,
but now you're just having it coincide and you're doing it,
you know, so so deaf independently. But you think this
is something that's giving you, like a different type of energy,
like kind of nostalgic because they like you enjoying this process.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
It's not nostalgic.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
It's opportunity for me to do something I've never done.
So all the records that I'm making, I'm making with
artists that's from Atlanta that I never worked with. So
I never had a song with t I. I never
never hate a song with Two Change. I've never had
a song with Drow, So these these and Drow and
two Changs never had a song together.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
That's crazy. I don't even realize. First of all, why
do you? Why is that?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Like?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Why have you? Because it just feels like that would
be a natural thing.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
And Atlanta we never had well, me and me and
Tip we're supposed to have made records, but we still
you never had a real like reason, like you know
what I mean.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
He makes his records, I make my records, you know
what I mean. We never really had a real reason.
If somebody was making an album, maybe that's what it is.
But this gives us the perfect backdrop for me to
make records with. Like Travis Porter, they signed, so that
was like more or less my situation. But like Jay Money,
I never had a record with him. I never did

(27:31):
a record for Quavo all the Megals. Wow, I never
did a record with ce Loo. I never did a
record with Big Boy or killing all these people. Tell
people on these albums that I never made.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
Records just because you all have all been in this
game for so long and has such longevity. It's just
show you.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
How nice Atlanta is. Atlanta is such a city that
got so much great talent that they don't need me.
They making their own way, right and vice versa. I
ain't really need them. I'm make my own way. So
we all just been moving. But it's definitely it's fun
to be able to do it because now it's like

(28:08):
I got something to look forward to more than just
making the music. Like I'm excited to go in the
studio with these people and see, you know what it
is that they do learn something, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I like hearing Young John that because I feel like
he last time we spoke to him, I know he's
been like on a different type of way, but you
know we still like we still that way. I'm mad
I missed that video. Shoot.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
I got the call from JD and it was like
be here in two hours, and I'm like, yeah, I
ain't gonna be able to do that.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
I wanted to make it though.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah he should have been there.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Because it's at Magic City. Yeah no, it was. Yeah,
I mean it's a whole album. I'm sure it'll be another.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Speaking of which, Princess from Crime I vm me and
she like, why you ain't on this album? I'm like,
I've got an artist, but I'll come talk some shit
if y'all let me so.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Some talk some ship whatever y'all need you to say.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
You know, I'm a little control or something.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
You know, I've been the South Side plenty times. I
know what to pull up to. Just let me know.
Let me actually have any of the women the dances
at Magic City ever approached you about like business, Like, hey,
I really you know, I feel like I could be an.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Artist or yeah, yeah, I mean White Russian's she rapped.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Wifey Baby, she's a wifey.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Baby actually is on the I put on a song
with Travis Porter.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
I don't know if the song will make it yet, but
I did it.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I mean, like I said, I'm making all these records
and I'm trying to just like I'm doing. It's me
just doing stuff, and I hear it like so so
at first, I was listening to the song and we
needed a girl to do a part, and I was like,
if I get a regular girl to come in here
and do this part. And I got an opportunity to
let one of the girls to actually do this, right,
Because that's another thing about Like I think people was

(29:52):
mad at me because I said something about strip of rap,
right yeah, And I feel like, to me, that's the
I feel like that's the thing that Cardi B had
as over all these female rappers when it comes to
that sound. She actually stripped before, and she was actually
a worker in the clubs, right, So her music to
me feels more authentic than somebody I know ain't stripped,

(30:13):
or somebody that we don't know has the strip. Cardi
B can actually talk about it. She could actually tell
the story that she was just talking about in a way,
so all the other girls that's dancing, they don't know
what she's talking about. So I feel like in rap,
like the more authentic it is, it works. So that's
why I was like, Oh, let me get a wife
your baby on here, because now what we're talking about,
it's gonna sound perfect for her because she just what

(30:35):
she does.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Okay, see It's kind of like how he went back
to the club and was like, oh, y'all think I
don't like their skinned girls by this, and you're like,
you think I don't like strippers.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
I know what cause it used to be white chocolate sugar.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Like like she was like, like, I'm telling you that.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
Was there.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Let me say this white chocolate is white chocolate was.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
And I want to tell you who she is.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
She is the body that everybody wanted like she was
the first girl that actually looked like the BBL situation,
but it is real, real and she was dancing, so
it wasn't it wasn't like just their stiff you know.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Watching the documentary you get to see, like, know what
looked like in the beginning where logic the first open.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
It's kind of like watching a guy video back in
the day hell yea, seeing the girls on the beach
and the bikinis and watching like that and then seeing
how much like what is desirable you know, has changed.
And she was definitely the bad girl and I want
to let the people know who she is because this
is a part of the documentary as well. She is
the girl from the Tip Drill video who Nelly swiped
the black card down her butt crack. And there's the

(31:53):
whole part in the docu series where they have Nelly,
they have White Chocolate, and they have the lady that
protested from space and my son and they're all telling
their versions of the story. I can't wait to see it,
but I know of my involvement. But when I tell you,
White Chocolate was like my idol, Like when I learned
about her and I like saw pictures of videos of her.

(32:13):
I didn't even know her because she had left in
two thousand and two, three years before I got there.
But when I tell you, she was that girl, like, yes,
was there?

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Think a documentary like this Magic City One is going
to do for because I remember in the documentary they
talk about how women look down you know, and people
can look down on strippers. But then watching a documentary
like this, what do you want people to get from?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Well, me, personally, I want people to stop. First of all,
I want people to look at this. This is Atlanta culture, right,
And I feel like in hip hop, each region has
their own cultural things right.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
And although gang banging is bad.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
And you know, it ain't all good and it ain't
all bad, but we know what gang banging is right.
We look down on it when we talk about LA
and everybody, everybody just embraces it, right. You embrace the khakis,
you embrace the dickies and the low riders, and every
part of it is embraced because you're talking about l A.
I just want people to start doing that when it

(33:15):
comes to Atlanta. Don't don't look at like what you
we don't like degrading. No women like these girls in
there getting I'm saying, they getting paid, like it's not
like and you know it takes a lot for you
to dance naked. I'm sure I couldn't do it.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
I was like, I couldn't. I couldn't for real, like
just running around the club.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Let me don't be cared about seeing men naked either.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
I have her girls say she had to get over,
like just get through that. That problem was never a
problem for them, never, Nah, it ain't no problem.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Partly being a professional dance though, and being very comfortable,
comfortable and being comfortable on stage, and I remember that
is something that I feel like both cardib and Cashed
Out I have talked about how being a stipher has
helped them with becoming a rapper because It made them
very comfortable to be on stage, to be in front
of people, to have confidence, you know, in themselves. Because

(34:10):
if you can do that, you get on stage, you wrap,
you think you can dance, make it in front of strangers. Probably,
what about you? Well, you did playboys?

Speaker 2 (34:17):
You think you post if you weren't this angela, you
think that you could.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
You posted me? You want to Oh yeah you did,
Yeah that was me.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
Wait, I don't know what that is that you let
me say the purple pomps and.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Little ass.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
Just the.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
He said said that.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
Like that.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Not to cut you off, but looking at that, right,
that's that's not the great. It's like, I don't see nothing.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's not what people don't realize. What people realize is
that we are women.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
We are mothers, We are educated, we are homeowners, we
have other businesses. We start businesses with this money we
pay for our education. Now, you got some girls that's
out here funding their baby daddy rep career, or you
got girls that got pimps, and you know, you got
girls that are addicted to drugs and that are not
doing the right things by their children. But they put
us in that category as if that's all we are
and I blame a lot of that on movies and media.

(35:34):
You know, on television, the strippers are always drug addicted
and don't got their kids, and getting beat up and
giving a man their money and doing all the wrong things,
sucking dick in the corner for forty bucks whatever.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
They don't see outside of that, And I think that
shows like p Valley Beyond the Pole, this documentary to
the Truth, it shows what really happens downstairs, you know,
like he said, he's been in Magic City for ten
years and he ain't never been down to don't. So

(36:07):
it's like people on the outside looking in, they don't
see that natural part of us. They see, Oh, she
take her clothes off of money, she must suck big
after And it's.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Just like mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
First of all, I just made so much money on
my feet that if somebody offered me to lay on
my back, they're not offering me enough.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
So I'm not doing it for one. By the way,
a lot of women don't ship.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I was just that.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
All of my friends that don't dance are the biggest
understand this for years in the.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Same spot for years.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
All of my friends that don't dance are the biggest holes.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
I know.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
It's my friends that are in the nursing and then
the in the banking and in the retail teachers and
all types of regular professions.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
That are respected in their profession.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Those are the ones that's out here sucking the fucking
for doing some strength, for some changing and it ain't
even enough in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
But you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
But we get that because we choose to be naked,
it automatically goes to separate.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
I mean, and the process is like, if you're trying
to mess with the stripper, you have to be a vampire.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
You have to be okay, yeah, basically you as a person.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
It's like as a regular man that has a regular job,
you can't do it. He's not getting ready to go
in there and get nothing. Because one if the girls
have an incredible night, they counting the money till seven in.

Speaker 5 (37:23):
The morning sometime come back the next day and you
have to be.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah, they don't count the money, so so much money.
They have to come back the next day. They gotta
count their money and they gotta leave. They not coming
to you, see you. They going to sleep for a
minute and going back to finish counting their money because
they think somebody gonna take their money. Right, So, as
a man, you trying to like be with one of
these girls, this is what you gotta do with Call yo,

(37:48):
what's up?

Speaker 4 (37:49):
We count money? It's six o'clock.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
I felt like if I took the day off, I
was missing money. If I'm not making money, I'm missing money.
I'm not going to no regularly paying to get in,
paying to get my hair done, paying the park, behind
a drink when I can do that and I can
make your day's pay check. If I want to work
on a Monday in May, five thousand dollars, I was
coming back on Tuesday because guess what, I need that
five hundred and I'm about to make Tuesday day shift.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
I need that.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
And if I'm not there, it's because I'm tired. Excuse me,
because I'm tired. I got to deal with my child.
But guess what, I would sit at home on days
that I wasn't never work, Like damn, I know I'm
missing Have you ever been in a serious relationship with
a dancer, serious relationship like.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Where it was like, okay, this is something like we
locked in.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
You can't That's what I'm saying I don't think you
could be in a serious relationship with dancer because, like
I said, at the end of the day, they are.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Because I feel like you would you're you're up at
night and you're a vampire. Yeah, but I mean that
you understand count of money.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
At six in the morning, he's doing his own thing.
At seven in the morning, I'm you know, somebody who
we got to go to sleep sleep around.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
I mean, you can't do that every day because I
also feel like it's probably hard for some money to
date you at the same time, not regularly.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
It's not that hard though, Like I don't have that
type of you know what I mean, I don't I
don't have to stay and do something at that time
of the morning every day, this everyday thing like right,
like you know, like even with me, I was going
to Magic City religiously for like I said, between the
Gentleman's Club and Magic City for twenty years straight. I
spent ten thousand dollars twenty years straight, every Monday night

(39:24):
between the Gentleman's Club and Magic City.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Right, this is my religion.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
And just to think about a girl that has to
do like theyre in there counting this money they being
there like forever.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
I've always been in a relationship though when I was
a dancer, yeah, I always was in a relationship.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Too, But sugar daddy and ship, yeah I did, I
stay with it. I'm mad. I ain't got nothing like
you think you have you ever been in sugar daddy?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
What's the sugar dady?

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Like?

Speaker 1 (39:52):
You know, just maybe having like a girl, but you
just yeah, like sponsoring her, just giving her money, just
giving them money.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
Because you like what she does for you.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
No, it's not just not just giving money just to
be giving money. If you ask me for some money, maybe.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Given money to be given money, let me let me
take care of that, take care of your let me
take care of all that.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
That's not you.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
You never told a girl don't come to work today.
I got you.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, okay, the same thing, same thing. That's not really
a sugar daddy, but same shit.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
So what we got?

Speaker 4 (40:26):
I mean because ultimately, if I.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Said sugar brother, but I answer if I asking how much,
like how much money you think you're gonna make? Like
and she saying like fifteen hundred dollars? Cool, don't know,
you don't even got to go there.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, I'm say more must always.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
It's real.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
It's a real question, you know what I mean, it's
a real question how much mone you're gonna make. But
I was just saying, that's a night that's not like
not Monday.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
It's not Monday night. You give me a real answer,
So yeah, I did that before.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Ultimately, what type of women do you see yourself with?

Speaker 4 (41:02):
I don't, it don't matter whatever, Like if you could, like.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
We're science like build your perfect like perfect woman, yeah,
like this inside and out.

Speaker 4 (41:16):
I don't know, it's just I think I think my
brain is like this. I don't.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
I mean, you know what I mean, Sometimes somebody cool, somebody.
Sometimes I want somebody that's little ghetto, and sometimes I
don't want somebody to ghetto.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Like, But like what's important to you, like fundamentally, if
you're like these are the things that a woman must.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Have their own ship.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
When I say that, I'm just saying, like I don't
do if I get up and go do what I
gotta do, I would hope that you got something that
you gotta do. Like, I don't really understand people that
I'm talking from both sides. Man, I don't understand niggas
that don't got nothing to do. When you get up,
it's time to get up and go somewhere and do something.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Are there ever an artists you feel like has so
much potential, but they just would not motivated enough.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
There's hundreds of them, Yeah, but I mean it's like
they don't you know, they don't understand that the work
that like the word work. It's a lot of people
that don't understand that, you know what I mean. It's
a bunch of people that be coming to me like
JD put me in the game, put me in a game.
I put them in the game that they they ready
check out because the work is different. Working is different,

(42:23):
especially working for me, I don't I.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Don't have no stop.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Yeah, he doesn't have like formal business out to be
put up to the studio and he in there at
six am, like what's up?

Speaker 6 (42:34):
Y'all?

Speaker 4 (42:36):
A lot of them, And I allow people that work
for me to just like not be a part of
that part of my life. Like I go in there.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
You know, I like to be by myself when I'm working,
but in real life it should be somebody that wants
to be in that space. But that majority of them
can't run that race with me.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
You now, you have like a tremendous work ethic, and
that's something that I feel like, no matter what, from
the beginning of from when we first heard your name
until where we are today, it hasn't stopped. Now, I
just had a random thought.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
The other two members of the Snack Pack were the
girls that danced on the pole BT Hip Hop Awards
when y'all did.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
No, I mean, I'm trying to figure out what what
happened to the snack Snack Pack?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
What happened to the snack It got disbanded. I mean
it started when I left, but they carried it doing
for about a year or two.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
M Yeah, because I never that surfboarding that was amazing. Ye.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
And you know what's crazy is you was just there
last night. I'm sure you saw girls doing what I'm
saying poetriits last night.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
No, they got a swinging thing now from the.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Middle, but they're still surfing too.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
I see it.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
Surfing a like that. But y'all had the three people surfboard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Do you feel like things have changed them kind of
shifted away from that? Because I do feel like there
was a period of time when I heard about all
the different ship clubs every time I went to Atlanta,
it was like, and I maybe I'm just not out
as much because it's me. I don't know if it's
me or if it's the culture, because even in New
York or even in Miami, I feel like the clubs
aren't like what they used to be at all. And

(44:10):
I don't know if it's because it's younger people going
and I'm not and I've aged out of it, or
if it really isn't like that.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Well, I think the girls now don't take it as
serious as a thing as these girls did.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
We had this conversation in medicine.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
It used to be a thing like the performance is
a sign, like it's about Magic City. But it used
to be a sign at the Gentleman's Club. When you
walk into Gerons Club there, I have strip of the
month like right there, big picture whoever that girl was?
And that changed, right And I remember we used to
go in and and looking to see who it was
like this month, like you I mean used to be.

(44:50):
I'm saying that's why I feel like even like that's
what white Chocolate brought.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
She brought the mess. I keep white chocolate because because
she was, she was, she brought she brought the Cream
of the Crops to the club episode White Chocolate Pop, Sugar.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Pop, I'm so mad.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
It's a whole crew of them that was like that
Magic City starting five was crazy.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
And that's who I looked up to when I got there.
It was the og Indio, the Sugar, the of Holly Shell.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
That whole crew. There was the Ogs, the O G set.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
They were the only ones before the Snack Pack. They
went on stage together. They all was signing together and
going stage together, and they would make all the money
and they was all fine as fun and they knew
all of the rappers and we would just look at them.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Like, yeah, my time going to strip clubs.

Speaker 6 (45:48):
It's completely different because I was going with King of
Diamonds in Miami because I was in school at the
time and we had G six and like all these.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Things aren't G five, That aren't.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Going to the hood?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yeah, the audi Yeah, and it's just not giving.

Speaker 6 (46:06):
They're just standing there and it's kind of you know,
there's no dances, there's no outfits, there's no.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
But so huge well like it it's hard to pack
that out.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
It's the music too, though.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
The music also plays a major role in these girls
not actually performing the way that they used to. You know,
if you're playing thirty trap records and you ain't really
talking about anything sexually, trying to be sexy everything.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
And that's what they do.

Speaker 5 (46:37):
Girls doing this like they really are, you know what
the music.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
One of them is like a general strip question, and
one of them is Atlanta question. So the general strip
question is what do you think or do you even
think that social media and the internet plays a role
in how the club has changed?

Speaker 4 (47:06):
No, well, yeah, I think that because.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
Regular girls want to look like strippers, and I think
that that it made it made it made girls in
the strip club not special anymore because the girls outside
of the strip club looked just like.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
Us.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
You could only go to the strip club and see
them tends only in the strip club, right, You couldn't
walk down the street and see this. Now you can
go to the regular club and the girl is standing out.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
They dressed like us too, And.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
From period of time, we're way more like, Yeah, that's
the thing up here making more money than the stupid
but that's the New York thing.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
My second question, this is another question, how do you
feel about them trying to bring follies back and making
it the old foxy lady ak A the Office aka Rain.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Have you seen that I saw?

Speaker 4 (48:03):
I thought I heard somebody saying this, but I thought
it was like I saw this is real.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Yeah, it's real.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Why wasn't a Folie fan. I wasn't a Folie fan. Yeah,
I was never a Folie fan either.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
It was too dark.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I mean, like, like I said to me, it is
the safest club in Atlanta, absolutely, And I could go
to Magic City by myself right with no security, and
I feel like I'll be safe. I feel like I
have a great time. And it's like I feel like
there's no other strip club in America that's got that
vibe to y'all, so it's hard.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
For me to go to.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
Yeah, it's hard going to other clubs and they're dark
and they sectioned off and it's like you can barely
see the girls.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Like I don't like that either. I don't like dark
strip clubs because I like this.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
It's not just right, but it's like one open space,
but it's one those of y'all who have never been.
Magic City is one open space and you can see
what's over there. You can see what's over there. You
canee who walking through the front door. You can see
who won in the bathroom like you can see every
you can see where your waitress at, you can see
where the hookah girl at. You can look into the
kitchen like you can see everything.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
You know safe, it's very safe.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
The darkness takes away Like I said, darkness creates this
illusion of what you might be looking at and magic
you see you see looking.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
At right, Yeah, you can see period perfect. Well, listen, y'all,
I am so excited about this. And aside from this,
you know, and we don't want to also we want
to make sure we also talk about solf So Deaf
University and what you do students from Emory.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
That's yeah, yeah, my first year doing that and.

Speaker 3 (49:39):
I've been trying to do it for a minute, but
Emory was the first person that, like the first school
that agreed to make it a situation where I could
give out credits.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
That's amazing. Can you imagine how competitive is that to
be able to get into university.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
This is the first year.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I'm gonna make it more competitive because I learned this
year that you know, these kids thought they was coming
to make it music as opposed to like taking the
trash out and being an intern.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Okay, so you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
So I got a group of you know, these four
kids now that I could say, this is what the
interns are, and the interns that was there they could
tell you. They could tell the new interns like, this
is not like you coming over here to record, right,
you get to sit in a session. You might see
somebody coming in there making it whatever, but your your
job is to introduce yourself, asks the person if they

(50:26):
need anything. If you see somebody needing something, be an intern,
you know what I mean. Like, and I don't think,
I think I think the world don't.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Teach people to be interns before they get to what
they gotta get no more.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
What do you think about kids like taking initiative as
interns to because there's a balance between doing too much
right and but also like seizing an opportunity, And so
how do you teach like students this balance? Because I
do feel like it's a different day and age and
sometimes you know, kids can sometimes feel a little entitled

(50:57):
to things, where like you said, you got to teach
people how to be interns, right, because they'll be like,
I don't do that. That's not what I'm here for.
But how do you teach somebody not to like, yes,
there's an opportunity, you got to speak up. We tell
people that all the time. But at the same time,
how do you not make people uncomfortable with you, like
as an intern overstepping certain boundaries, you know, like what's
that balance?

Speaker 4 (51:18):
I mean?

Speaker 3 (51:18):
But you gotta you have to make people understand that
a great intern will get their opportunity. So like when
people be like, I'm gonna miss my opportunity, you can't
miss your opportunity if you're a great intern. Like if
it's somebody came here right now and they was cleaning up,
and they came up here and they cleaned up this table.
One of us is gonna watch how they clean this table.

(51:39):
If they do it three or four times the same
way and it's really done well, you're gonna want someone
else clean at some point, and that person that you
saw do it, you're gonna reach out for that person.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
You ain't gonna try to find somebody else. I know
me anyway, if I.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
See somebody doing something, even if they ain't working for me,
I see somebody working for somebody else and they doing
it the right way, I'm be like, yo, who they
work for?

Speaker 4 (51:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (52:00):
And they might if they save me, then I'm like, damn,
you know what I'm saying. But other than that, if
you find you see people, that's how you I mean,
that's how I hired people.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
All my life.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
I seen somebody doing something well, you never know space
and be like, yeah, you want a job what you
do because you look like you know.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
How to do this right, And that's that's it.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
So I feel like, if you're a great intern, that's
what I'm trying to tell all these kids, If you're
a great intern, it'll automatically.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
Turn into something.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
You ain't got to jump out here and overstep your
boundaries because then you then you're making people not want
you around.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yeah, it is a fine.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
My first internship was at TVT Records. Do you remember
this record label?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
When I was in college, I enterned at TVT Records
and there was like eight of us. It was an
unpaid internship, but at the end of the internship, I
was the only one left that was still coming to
work every day. And I remember the guy I was
record for. It was in the legal department, which I
did not care about, and I was like one day
and he was an asshole, but one day he was
like you're always so pleasant and so like, how are

(52:59):
you able to to coming here every day with like
with a smile on your face. And the other thing
I used to do was when he would leave for
the day, I would still be there and I would
work in like the promotions department and marketing and A
and R and like talk to other people. When I
was done and he went home, I was still there
like doing stuff in other departments. And so after that,
like I interned at MTV, I interned for Wu Tang,

(53:20):
and then when I graduated from college, I had like
a couple of job offers, you know, and I was
being patient. I wasn't doing the most. I always had
a good attitude. Want Yeah, yeah, they don't want to
work for it because I know even that I heard
with our interns they're really careful about who they hired
because there's like certain rules now what you can and
can't ask interns to do. Really yeah, like when I

(53:40):
have my internship act, like go pick up this guy's
dry cleaning, like everything, you can't do that, yeah, nothing
personal like yeah they can't.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah, it's like yeah, it's like laws and what interns
can get in some states you have to pay them
to university.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
The treasure, Like I mean, I would have him going
up if I don't know you, like now, ain't let
you do nothing personal like that for me. But they
still should be doing things that's in that type of
space because I'm saying all that does is teach you
how to take care of something that's not yours. And
the best job in the world is what you know,

(54:20):
somebody that owns something putting their life in your hands.
Like if you if I let you be the manager
of this shot, this is my shot. If you don't
do it right, That's what I'm saying. You got to
learn how to take care of other people's stuff as
if it's yours. So they shouldn't have them rules because
that's the only people that's the only way people learn.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
To me, you know, it's interesting to me how with
this docu series, it starts off with Magic's wife saying
how she didn't want to move to Atlanta right because
she was like, it's just so slow, like you know,
people think that, and I feel like Atlanta in the
beginning has always had like a chip on their shoulder
about people.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
Second time I heard that.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
To day, But it is it's it's about because people
have always been so vocal about Atlanta. Like even with
me making records that it starting off. You know, I
was telling the story earlier. Red Alert and Chuck Chill Out.
They both was like, man, that nigga's so country that
and now this shit ain't gonna work in New York.
Like actually telling you that makes you like go want

(55:19):
to get it right. But at the same time, you
do have a chip on your shoulder because people always
felt like a certain way, like even like with Killer
Mike and Andre three thousand Tips and all of these
guys rapping, they always felt like New York or any
other place looked at the South like it was no
real rappers, like they couldn't rap because we was from
the South. That's even why that's why Dre said that,

(55:40):
you know what I mean say so I just feel like, yeah,
I don't know why people were always so vocal about Atlanta.
But that's the same thing I'm saying about this documentary.
People are vocal about strip clubs instead of not just
instead of saying this is the culture of Atlanta. You
know what I mean, we got roller skating, we like,
we like stripp.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
Yeah, but I'm saying to say, aside from all of that,
look at all you know, the chip on the should
or whatever what people thought, people's perceptions of Atlanta was.
Look at how long Atlanta has been just really like
still got something. It started and then it just never stopped.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Yeah, yeah, it's a fight though. I mean, you know,
we've been fighting.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
So still because I feel like now people be moving
to Atlanta because they're like they do, but they move
in there not for the wrong reason.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
They moving there for the wrong reasons. They ain't moving
there to like help the source of Atlanta. So if
you from Atlanta, you still got to fight to get
in this space.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
I'm a transplant. I moved here by default, I know,
but you are so ingreated. But I am so Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
I'm celebrating twenty years August twenty ninth, which is the
Hurricane Katrina. I literally moved to Atlanta today Hurricane Katrina,
and not by because of that, because clearly I was
coming from Philly, but it was that was the exact
day that I got there. And when I tell you
I'm so at, you can't tell me I'm not from there,
y'all know.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
You know, listen, marrying a woman who's not from Atlanta.
People gonna be so disappointed in you if you end
up marrying a woman who's not from Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
Yes, people will be so they don't care about that.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
You don't think so, do you?

Speaker 4 (57:18):
They definitely care about that that I marry a woman
from Atlanta, Like I can't.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
You know you're so Atlanta. Yeah, I don't think people
care about that.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
You don't care. They want to see me bring somebody down.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
Ends up.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
This is going to be interesting. I can't wait to
see this later on. You got to come back when
you when.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
You find.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Don't listen famous last words, when somebody right before it happens.
I'm telling you, I feel it for some reason. I
think it's marriage. Yeah about that? Wow, you feeling that?

(58:06):
Maoomer ray happens. Boy, that's gonna be crazy. But listen,
we love that. But No, for Re always congratulations on everything.
Every time I see JD. It's like, you know, he
always got something new happening, like it never ever stops.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Want to take this time to say thank you for
even having this documentary a thing. It's a life changing
full circle moment for me personally. When I first got
the call, it was just do an interview. That interview
turned into narrate. That narrator turned into pitch team, turned
into producer credit turned into you sitting on this couch
right now, And I can't be more elated, more honored,

(58:43):
and just I'm so happy that this is a thing
because it's really my life.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
Like the reason when I got xked to be on
the pitch team. You know what they told me.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
None of us in production can tell this story from
a first hand account because we didn't live it.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
You did. So are you nervous about people actually seeing you?

Speaker 5 (59:00):
Now?

Speaker 2 (59:00):
She's agreed, Like honestly, I was watching it and I
was like, Gigi is fucking killing.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
It, Like it's really on real TV, Like this ain't
like I want people.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
To lead story.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
Yeah, I want people to see I mean I don't really,
you know, I'm not really nervous about people seeing my
TDS because I was a stripper for I don't know,
I'm ten years, So that's not even like I don't
really care about that, But it's more about just my involvement.
Y'all see this this inc you know what I'm saying
this is Fancy for y'all who don't know. Her name
is Fancy. And I left Mega City fifteen years ago,

(59:32):
but I still live, breathing, eat Mega City every chance
I get. Even when I lived in the state of
New York for six years, every time I went to Atlanta,
I had to go to Megic City. Like I'm one
of the dancers that I've retired and I left, but
I never walked away. There's so many dancers, and I'm
getting the hate for this too. A lot of dancers
is in my DM's like, oh this some Hollywood shit.
Why I ain't ask me to do it? I should
have been there.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
I was there long of you. I was there before you.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
I whatever they got to say, And it's just like
you left and you turned around and you walked away,
and you never look bad. I've always been a part
of Mega City, and I'm gonna always He's be a
part of Magic City. So I feel like this is
a part of me just as much as it's a
part of Big Matches, as much as a part of you,
because you've been there for all of those years, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I feel like as a dancer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
The story needs to be told for people to see
what's really going on because y'all put us in this
box of being drugged out pimph out prostitutes. You know,
y'all need to see that we really helped create some
of these careers. We really help artist music, We really
helped with this process of this club being to where
it is today. And again, thank you because this is
a full circle, life changing moment for.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
Me and you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Earned career, but like it ain't, this is where you
you deserve, it's earned it. Thank you and congratulations to
all you guys. Drink none of his drink. He took
a little.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
He's been drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
He's gonna go home and propose to somebody. You get
married so bad because that's gonna be the wedding of
the century. WHOA, that's just right, you know that that's
patty gonna be like question, my last question. What is

(01:01:16):
the thing about it for you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Just like I just said about it for you that
you can't wait for the people to like see and
and kind of like realize about.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Well, I mean I feel for me, it's like an accomplishment.
Like like I said, I try to I've been trying
to uplift Atlanta. When I may Welcome to Atlanta, I
want to make a song to make people see how
proud I was about Atlanta, like when I you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
Like before.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Before even making Welcome to Atlanta, I used to be
like here in New York, and Frank Sinatra got you
know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
And then l A got l A we love it.
I love l A like I kept saying, well, I
love Atlanta like me. So it's like trying to do
something to continue to keep pumping my city up. That's
what this is to me. So I just want people,
like when I did Freaking Nick, the same thing. I
know people was mad.

Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
They wanted to see the freaking, but I didn't want
you to see that part because I feel like that's
the part that people wanted to see in there so
that they could tear it down.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
There was a lot of history and freaking yeah, what
was going on with that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Yeah, But everybody, I understand everybody's story about freak niggas different.
If you saw something crazy happening Freakingnick, you might have
saw that. I didn't see that because I was younger
and I couldn't you know what I mean. I couldn't
even go in the clubs when freaking it was actually popping.
I was in the streets and on the streets where
I was at, I ain't see nobody get raped. I
just seen people come into my city having a good time,
dancing on cars, being in the streets.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
Yeah, ton of traffic.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
So I just want people to respect our culture. These
are things that happened in Atlanta. We ain't asking nobody.

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
Come when you know what I'm saying, when we just
if you don't want to see it, we got to
come to Atlanta. You know what I mean, You ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Don't come here during the pandemic. That's where I got
COVID in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Thank you guys. The person. Yeah, I've never cod and
I got it there. It was like some R and
B Awards show that they had me doing like interviews
for So. I came down here to work. I heart
sent me so I heard give you COVID yea.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
SO was talking with no mask on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah, we were doing interviews. Yeah the first day they
opened after COVID and I was fine with my little
pink mask.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
You did you get?

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
Did you get COVID?

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
Atlanta was with a mask on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
We're gonna be out. And somebody said to me yesterday
they were like, is there any place that celebrates and
that has like the black excellence that Atlanta has? Somebody
now asking me that yesterday, like that has like is
there another major city like that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
I realized like about a week ago, I've heard the
veto talking about his godfather and He's god father is
the richest black man in the world and he never
took a vacation in like the twenty years of him
becoming this rich man. And the one day that he
decided he wanted to take a vacation, was like, where
you want to go?

Speaker 4 (01:04:11):
He said?

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Atlanta?

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Wow? And I'm like, oh, ship, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
Like the richest man place, the richest black man in
the world for his vacation, want to come to Atlanta?

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
Did he say?

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Magic City?

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
Fancy?

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
He stopped.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
He went through that night and.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
But no, you're right, there's no there. There definitely is,
like I feel like the trace on the come up.
But you know, obviously Atlanta's had a huge head start.
People love Houston.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Yeah, I mean I think, like I said, I feel
like all cities they got their music. They got to
sound DC.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
But like I said, with Atlanta, it's like, for some reason,
people don't want to stick us with this one.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
We have our we have our cultural things, and the
strip clubs is a cultural thing, not this Magic City,
Blue Flame, all of them, all of these.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
Spots.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
The only time I go to the strip because is
if I'm in Atlanta. Oh, tell us some time. My
first time at City story you want to hear it.
So my first time at Magic City, I was with
it some of my homegirls, and so I'm like, I've
never been here before, this is my first time. As
soon as I walk in the door, Gigi comes running over,
but ass naked. She's giving somebody a dance. She left
them came up. I'm just walking and then the DJ's saying,

(01:05:30):
angela ye in the building. My friends are like, for real,
it's your first time here. I was like, I swear
to you, I just know Gigi.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
And then somebody must have told the DJ I was here,
because it made it look like I was a regular
when I first came in there. That's that's that's Magic City.
You always gonna feel at home. They're always going to
make you feel welcome and respected. They're gonna shout you out,
they're gonna call your name, they're gonna say who you are,
they're gonna show you love.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
So, did you get some dances?

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
No, that's not really my thing. I'll throw some money.
But she was at my last dance and she definitely
do all of that man's money. Yeah, sure he did.
I was giving them money and I wanted to stage.
He's taking it off. One thing I will do is
I will make sure that these dancers get their money
when I go to any won't I. When I go
to any club and the guys that I'll be like,

(01:06:14):
come on, we got to get some more money. Come on,
we gotta throw some more money. There's times I don't
have people spend ten thousand, twenty thousand dollars, you know,
So it's gonna be my money. But I'm gonna make
where around with And one thing I noticed that dancers
do is if I'm with guys, they'll come.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
Over to me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
That's the smartest. That's the smart because they know that the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Woman, the woman is going to control who's getting the money.
And so that's definitely strip club etiquette. You gotta speak
to the woman.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
First, so gotta love it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
But yeah, so that was my first time, and you know,
been there a few times since a few times, and
that was the night that that guy was like, oh yeah, god,
all right, stories, all right, Well, well.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Thank you so much, so much, And again, can you
ask when it is? I'm the documentaries starting on starta
August fifteen, and then every Friday, five Fridays, five Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
I can't wait until this whole thing happens and we celebrate,
and then right after that we celebrate the forty years
of Magic City. They're having a black tie gala in
Atlanta September fourteenth at the Fox Theater.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
It's all happening at one time, the time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
It couldn't be more perfect for this to happen, even
though we filmed but two almost three years ago. The
fact that it's coming out in August, and then the
anniversary is actually in October, but the party is in September,
so it's kind of back to back and it's going
to be a whole thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
And again, I'm just grateful and excited that I'm that
this is my real life. And then the full album
August fifteenth, also the.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
Same day.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
You got your picture. Yeah, I come get to our
put my voice on the wax, put me in a
booth coach, and lastly, shout out to white Chocolate. And
I just was DM her too. Shout out the white
chocolate can come up here.

Speaker 4 (01:07:54):
Here, We get her to come up here. Yeah, I'm
not gonna watch I'll watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Let's do this.

Speaker 4 (01:08:03):
Cheer

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