October 14, 2025 • 58 mins
Tiwa Savage joins Lip Service for a raw and hilarious conversation about love, sex, and self-worth. She opens up about being cheated on, explains what “respectful cheating” means, and admits why 20 minutes in bed is her sweet spot. The crew dives into intimacy, ghosting, and how she turned heartbreak into her most personal album yet, This One’s Personal.Tiwa also talks about trying online dating, being open to a “second wife” situation, and setting new standards for what it means to live the soft life.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up a slip service. I'm Managela Gee.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Gigi Maguire, Geordie Jr.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, yes you are. I'm so glad that you hear,
because you know, we've been wanting to have you up here.
I know it's been like a timing thing.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I'm really excited. I feel like this is so iconic
because you see it all the time on Sosia.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And I'm like wow, and You're like you're in the flesh. No,
this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Last time, I mean, when was the last time I
saw you perform in Brooklyn?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It was so long ago? Yes, that was like how
old long ago was that must have been?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Was that pre COVID?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I think it was pre COVID.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Wow. Wow Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And we're back again and it's still amazing, still doing
fantastic things. Timing is perfect, though, So yes, I'm glad
you hear. We saw you've been at fashion week events.
I saw you partying with Cardi B yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah. I showed up for him. She had an event
with take Care right.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's always lovely to see her because I was just
saying that she she just reminds me of like that
woman that she still has the inner child, that innocence,
Like she's so literally lovely and I met her a
few years ago and she's still the same.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's funny because as she's promoting this album, she's doing
a great job of like being herself.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I saw her on the Jennifer Hudson.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Show and she was saying they asked her if she
wants more kids, and she was like, yes, because that's
how you don't get put in the home one of
them kids. Is yeah. But that's like a very logical
way to think, you know what I'm saying, Like, if
I have a bunch, somebody is gonna be the one
that's gonna hold the death.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
True, but I bet she's still gonna have a nurse.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Oh you know she has the money, nothing like that.
But anyway, you have a new project out man, and
it is definitely quite personal, you know, and I commend
you for that though this one is personal. It's the
name of the album and it starts off with a bang.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Mm, yes it does. I say this all the time.
I can't even listen to that first record. I always
have to skip it, yeah, because it's that real for me.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It was so real because it's very blunt about going
through somethings.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, it was deep.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I think it touched a cord with a lot of
people too, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
A lot of people.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
When I was recording it, I took it off because
I thought it's a bit too personal, and I thought,
you know, music is supposed to connect with people, but
it was so personal to my experience. I was like, Nah,
this is a bit too much. And then obviously my
team were like, no, you need to put that. That's
your experience, that's your truth. And funny enough, everyone tells
me like how they really connect to that record, even
(02:42):
if it's not even the heartbreaches. I'm done with my die,
I'm done with this, I'm done with family, I'm done
with whatever it is. It's just it was a very
very strong opener, and I was even really worried maybe
I should start the record with that record, with that song,
but where else would it go?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I love it, though, it's like into.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay and the other thing I was gonna say besides
it because I don't think that any of us could
say that we haven't been there. Wow, you know what
I'm saying, Like, who in this room could say we
didn't catch somebody like fucking somebody else or can anybody.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
In this room say that they haven't been cheated on?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
No, no, you know, but you haven't.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh no, I definitely have been.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Like give me.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Definitely respect disrespectfully in all types of ways.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's the that's the part.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The can you cheat respectfully?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yes? I think so.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I think I think there are levels. I think that
some levels were just like yo, this is this. You
just have to be like wait, what.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Like what's the tell me give me an example of
respectful cheating versus disrespectful cheating.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Like I feel like in the nineteen fifties, you know,
they had like the white and then they had a
side check like two towns over. They didn't know the
home phone number, they only met at a motel a time.
But I'm saying, we need to get back to that,
like anybody you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, there's no discretion whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now that situation. It didn't happen to me, But this
is a nature. She walked in I think it was
her husband's office, caught him and he stayed shot and
at her like I've told you to not this is that?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And yeah, that's disrespectfulty, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, like
he she walks in on him with somebody else and
he's spelling at her, saying that you should have not.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
That's crazy, melting one on one yeaheah, that's bad.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
If you're the girl there, what do you do you're
sitting there.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
That's the wife. You're making the other girl feel like
she's like I don't. It's just all it's just wrong
on all levels.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
All right, who's been respectfully cheated on? All of us?
But like what's respectful when it's discreet?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
No, but I'm saying you found out that's how you
got cheated on, But like, how is it done in
a respectful manner?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I will say this, A man is never supposed to
allow another woman to feel like she has one up
on the significant of you know what I'm saying. So
when you keep a bitch in her place and let
her know like this is what it is and this
is what it's going to be, and stay in your lane,
then that's sort of respecting the situation. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I walked in on somebody in bed with another girl,
but they he was like just anyway, but he made
her get out?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Is that respectful.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean, yeah, it means that.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It means that he's scared. Yeah, yeah, it means he's scared.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
He was like, she doesn't mean anything to me. I
feel like, yeah, I know, and the better. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It wasn't my bad day, but I was a lot younger.
But it would have been worse if I had to leave.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
No, exactly, That's what I'm saying. If he's like, yo,
are you get out, be like whoa yo? Yeah, that's crazy,
that is absolutely wild.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But have you ever cheated?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Never?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And I've never left someone for cheating?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
What?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, I know, R what.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Does it not? Even?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So I'm done? You weren't, like, that's not what.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I didn't even leave. He still left me?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
How are you gonna cheat me, cheat on me and
then leave me?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, I don't know. I've never Yeah, I've never really
left because of that. I've left for other reasons like
maybe stealing and drugs or whatever, like somebody stole from
you indirectly. Yeah, Like, but like I've never left because
I've heard, like you know, I've caught you cheating, I've
(06:48):
left and then they'll come and apologize and I'll take
that back yeah, yeah, but not not being like that
wasn't the deal breaker for me.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
While you were too a savage that you like you.
I'm just asking because I feel like if somebody cheats
on you, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
This was your fabulous stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
This is and I think that.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That's even What makes it even worse is that because
I can't really go online and rant because I have
to protect my image, or if I see them, I
can't really react because I'm not like the average person.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So I feel like they get away with a lot more.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Or then you put it into your art and make
money off of it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, how are you going to perform? I'm done if
you can't even listen to it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I couldn't even perform it.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I had a recent album launching and I couldn't perform it.
I was in rehearsal and I attempted it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So this is really like a album but not healed.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, I forgot. I'm seventy percent. I say, that's that's
that's that's a that's a paraumber.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, but it was, it was deep. It was.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It was about two years. It was intense for me.
I feel like I got older and for me to
fall for these same things was what made it even
worse for me.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Do you blame yourself? I don't like when we see that.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I blame myself even going there because first he wasn't
even my type. Like second it was just like.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It always.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Thinking why now I look at the person and I'm
just Sometimes my friends would be like do you remember,
and I'm like, please don't.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, it's really I'm like, yeah, I'm disgusted. What is
your type now? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I say now my type is someone that just has money.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'm tired.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Love and like I want to just I want to
be spoiled.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I want to live that soft life.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I want to be able to be like I want
to go to Central Pe and I'm just like I've
had a hard week. Can you send the plane? And
it's just like, yeah, okay, do you want the twelve,
CEO the twenty?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Who else is kind of change? Do they need a villa?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I want to expect that. Yeah, I see. I understand
that because people could hear that and be like, okay,
go dig this. But I can understand when you have
done so much for other people, like this time, let
me like be spoiled and get everything that I deserve.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Because I'm going to be heartbroken anyway. Somehow it's just
happened all the time. Some let me be heartbroken and
dubai and shopping.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
You.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You know, people would say, though you area more positive
ray out there, that like there is the right person,
you just haven't found him, because sometimes if you go
into things, they can I'm gonna be heartbroken anyway if.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I feel like, yeah, I'm learning to not say that,
I'm learning to know the power of the tongue, but
I still want to experience being spoiled.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Speaking of the power of the tongue, no kidding, Oh wow?
Is it? So? What do you think like makes you
stay with somebody? Is it the power of the time partly?
Do you feel like I'm about intimacy? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Does that? How much does that matter to you?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I think when you're really into someone that there's going
to be some kind of chemistry that don't I don't
know how to do bedroom acrobatics.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I always say that I don't. I've never experienced that,
and I don't even enjoy it when the guys too.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Like doing too much, Yeah, and you're going too.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Long, Like for me, I think good fifteen minutes to
take fifteen minutes, fifteen twenty minutes, Well, I mean what
am I doing for two fifteen twenty minutes?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
A lot is a lot. So I feel like thirty
thirty is nice.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Twenty thirty, yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Twenty minutes it's definitely a good five rounds in boxing,
I think it is. That's a long time they've been
in there. Three minutes about to get knockout, you know
what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, two hours, one hour.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You're doing too much or trying to like flip over
and run like it's I think it's too I think
it's too Maybe that's my problem, you know adventure.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, I don't think that's the problem though. I think
twenty minutes is decent.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
When I start saying stuff like wait, how how explictit?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Can we go?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You as expect it as you want.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I feel like when you start saying, have you come,
I think that's your key for a month's wrap it up?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, we gotta go.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
When you start writing songs in your head, right, start
thinking about songs like.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Up, I have to take my son to school in
the morning.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
While when you start saying things to try to end it,
because that's what we do, right, you get louder.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
You asked for it, daddy. I wanted to get the theatrics.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Because I hate when you could tell they're trying to
stop themselves and you're like, bro, just it's.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Okay, It's okay to come on, Grand finale, Let's get
to it now.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Another time I love on the album is a ballad
You're not the first, You're just the worst. That is
a beautiful song and it's just so well done. And
I feel like, as you know, I think we can
all relate to that, like I've been here before.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
But you really overly.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Took Yeah, yeah, yes, that's the last one that just happened.
And I was just like, yo, you yeah, you took
the piss big time.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But what happened?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Like, what was the worst? Because you've been through a
lot already, what makes something the worst? Like? How do
you top all the other ship.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
In the cheating Olympics? The cheating Olympics?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Mmm?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Can I say this and not give too much away? Okay?
There was a situation and because.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Because I'm I'm a public figure, it was always like
we're going to go out somewhere we can't go together
because we don't want yeah, we don't want people to
know yet. So we went to this afternoon day party
thing and he's like, I'm going to stay over here
(13:35):
and you're going to stay in this corner because you know,
I don't want people like everything's cool.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And then he's texting me.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
He's like, oh, there's some girls that's going to come around,
but I'm just going to be pretending, and I'm like okay,
and then he's like rubbing on some other in front
of me. What And then he's like, you know, it's
just because I don't want I don't want guys to suspect,
you know, I don't want my friends to think that,
(14:02):
you know, I'm gay or whatever. Like this girl's here
and I've just got to like like with the girl
like too much, and I'm literally where you are and
I'm just like, you know, just okay.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You're like, let me go on ahead, and I would
have backed it up on the nearest penis.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Okay, you want to do that because let's see if
you can eat.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
And I couldn't say nothing, I couldn't do nothing. And
then it's crazy because the girl's like, oh my god,
you what, savage, I love you so much.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It was and that happened a few times in different scenarios. Yeah,
We'll be in an award show or something and he
would walk in with somebody else and be like, oh,
you know, it's just for the cameras, it's just you
know whatever, And I'm like, now I'm talking about I'm like,
why did I even do that?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Like for so after the first time, it's like, okay, bro,
this is not good. That's what you never showed up with,
like a fake thing. Never you should have gave him.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's different for women though, That's the thing, right because
as soon as you pop out like with someone and
then if you go with somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Else, start counting.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And he was fast as you don't want that, but guy,
it's regular.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, so I could and he knew that, and he
knew that I wasn't. I wasn't that type of person anyway.
But that's what I'm saying that he wasn't the first,
but he was the worst because he played on the
fact that my being in the public I was I
could there was so much I could do.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
That's manipulative.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, why do you feel like you had to protect
that though and be secreted.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Was that your idea or his idea?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Initially I think it was both of our ideas because again,
like you said, I didn't want people to start counting
this person and that person that person for me, So
I wanted to make sure, like both of us said,
we wanted to make sure like this was for real
and yeah, before we went public. And then when I
was kind of like yeah, I'm ready to go public,
then it was just like no, no, not yeah, because
(16:08):
you know you're about to do this, drop this video,
this movie and this, and you don't want all that,
you know, to overshadow the great work that you're doing.
And I kept on thinking, oh my god, it cares
for me.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
He cares for my career.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's not trying to be like getting cloud from there.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
And it was just and it kept on going and
going and your breaking point. That's why I was he
just ghosted for six months? Oh yeah, did that ghosted?
And then yeah, how long were you all together?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
This went on for.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
About two years, on and off for two years, and
then the last one was like two years and then
two six months. Sorry, and but he's ghosted me before
like one week, one month, whatever, and I always go back,
but this time after like the third month, saying like,
who's waiting after three months? That's crazy. After the third month,
(17:07):
I was moving and then I realized that there was
some things that he had given me, Like there was
this teddy bear he gave me and went to the arcade,
and there was this watch, and there was a fake
bracelet that he gave me whatever, and then I threw
it out. But the moment I threw it out, there
was a release. I threw everything, all the fakeship. Yeah,
(17:32):
when he came back six months later, I feel like
the spell was broken.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Because once we closed that window bye.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
When I threw that stuff out, I felt like there
was something. Something happened, Something happened.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, I want you to start treating men like dogs,
just to see.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I don't know if I have it in me. I
did try.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I wrote by it in my song there's a song
called Twisted. When I was trying to be the toxic one,
Oh yes you were, and he was still he was
so nice about it, and I was just like, no,
I can't do this, like.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And I think when you act like not who you
are like you were saying and twisted that is an
indication that this is not a place I want to be.
Like when I started doing things that's out a character
And why am I like playing a certain role that's
not like whatever you want to be with you got
to be who you are.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, Like I want to just be vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I want to be soft, but I try to be
I'm outside, I'm want to be a Boddy and and
and he was so nice about it, and I was
just like, I don't like how this is making me
feel Like he would call me and I would see
them as cool and I will purposely go like a
day and not call back.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
And when I call back.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I'm I'm ready to be like yeah, And he's just like, oh,
it's cool, and I'm just like, na, this isn't why's
the word? Why didn't you like him? I didn't like
him from the start.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I just wanted to just get experience and just get
over the situation. Guy was collateral damage and he was
so nice.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Everything I do is like, oh my god, you don't
like nice guys. No nice to the point where I
don't feel like he's genuine, Like if I did a
song or something like, Oh, what do you think this
song is just going to be number one everyone? I'm like, no,
it's not like I didn't even have lyrics. This is
just mumble on the track. Song hasn't even done yet,
(19:28):
and he's just like.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
He's looking and he's just.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Like wow, he's like a fan.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yes, I think that kind of like just put me on.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So you moved back to London, right, how is that
going now? What do you think about a change of
I know you've been there before, but doing that was
part of the reason why you went back to kind
of like, you know, release some of that too, like
the energy. No.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I just think like musically where I am because I'm
not solely just doing aphrobeat, you know, so it's very
R and B influenced. Yeah, And I couldn't do that
being in Niger because I'm surrounded by afrobeat. I'm in
the radio, I'm in the car, I'm listening to afrobeat
in the clubs I'm listening. I needed to move from
that environment and be more in America and be more
(20:14):
in Europe, more of Europe, because they, I think still
appreciate late nineties early two thousand.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
ORB We heard the Tamya sample that.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, man, I had to. I had to.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
That genre is still very much appreciated, more so outs
even than America.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
You know, you went to school also for music, you
went to Berkeley. How do you think that helps? And
do you think that, say there's younger people now who
are like, oh, I want to do music, would you
recommend that they actually go to school? Because I'm just wondering,
like being trained in that way, if it's an aspiration
for somebody who's in, you know, going to school.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
What would you say.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Initially, when my parents told me, I felt that doesn't
make sense, like Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston then like they
didn't go to a music school. But now I realize
how blessed I am to have done it, because even
just reading contracts and scene where its like in perpetuity,
I know that that means like forever and ever and ever,
(21:13):
and you might not know that. So for me, I'm
able to be in the studio with or be in
rehearsal and say let's go to the middle a, let's
go to the bridge, or let's modulate or lets change keys,
And when they're saying stuff like that, I understand because
that I have a musical background, and I know that
sometimes with musicians it might be intimidating when you're around
(21:34):
certain people. So for me, it just build confidence. And yeah,
I like that.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And so you actually are going to be helping when
it comes to educating writists.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
So tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I want to open a music school.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I really want to open the music So.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I feel like there's so many different aspects of music,
not just being an artist, you know, because that's what
everybody sees and you think that that's the only way
to make money or making it impact. But there's a
music therapy where you can help with patients that have
cancer or on a spectrum or whatever like that. You
can use music for healing, music scoring and movies, songwriting production.
(22:17):
There's so many different parts of music.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
So jingles, yeah, commercial, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
So I feel like I don't necessarily have to sign
an artist to give back. I feel like this is
my way of giving back.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
More genuine to who you are. Okay, I got it
to make a label.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Right exactly, And I think not everyone's called to do that,
like you. I couldn't even like I would be all
night worrying about somebody else like worrying about are you
going to trend? Are you pregnant or of you whatever?
Like that's a lot of responsibility and I don't think
I have that calling, but I do want to help
in terms of like this music school and I'm speaking
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to Berkeley.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Actually really don't to open like a franchise.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Because I don't know anyone else who's done that.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, I know it's a big it's a big thing,
but yeah, you know, Tima, you've been through so much
and you've done a lot of things, like I think
earlier on that kind of has laid the groundwork for
other people.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But I saw recently that there was a media personality
who actually just apologized to you really yeah for coming
at you like before.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Recently.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, I just saw that she posted they were posting this, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
A podcast. I didn't say that.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah, there's an apology that she kind of came at
you when your tape was that whole situation.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And she was like just apologetic, like I should not
have that, I have not. We got to make sure
you don't sert yourself. No, I mean.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
It's really new, beautiful, it really new, but we'll make
sure you see it.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Wait, she apologized for coming at me. Yeah, I didn't
even see her coming at me.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I mean, I guess it was a long time ago,
but now, but it was really bad. You know, I
don't know why they came for me. I don't understand
that either, because that's traumatizing. And I don't understand how
like this, because you know, sometimes people think something tragic
can happen and they'll think that like it's part of
a rollout.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
That's first of all, they thought I did that on
purpose before her career is dying and she's did it.
And I'm like, and you think that that's to like
have my coochie all over And that wasn't even like
some sexy. Even if I was to do a sex tape,
I think I would make more of efforts. So I
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don't know. You know, if there was somebody Nigeria, he's
in politics, and he called me and he said, you
owe Nigerians an apology, especially Nigerian young girls for doing that.
And I said, sir, what do you mean. Yeah, I said,
I didn't put that out. He said, even just doing
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it and putting it on tape. I said, that was
my boyfriend at the time, and I didn't even know
he was recording me, by the way, like I wasn't. Yeah,
that's the story.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's a violation.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, I didn't even know.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Can you imagine how many people are violated like that
and we never know.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Have you ever a quarter a guy trying to feel you?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
No, I have, really, but I always have it.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
In the back of my mind when I'm first sleeping
with someone for the first time, that I'm like.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Something you have to know about?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, Ever since then, I I don't. It's always in
my hotel, my room, my house, or whatever. I don't
go to your place because you might have a camera.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Anyway, that's equipment.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But then the fact that something could happen and then
you get blamed for something unfortunate like that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Women, Yeah, they were like, and I'm like, I've not
done nothing wrong. I've literally it was really bad, Like
so I would love to see this such because I
didn't even I just shut off that period.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I don't know how I go through it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
You know, some things that we go through make us
so much stronger later because it kind of feels like,
what worse is going to happen?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I don't think I dealt with it and I think
I just kind of like went through I just brushed
it off, and I think now I'm dealing with it.
I'm saying to myself, it's okay to say I went
through this, this happened, and just live in it and
try and get through it or accept the reality.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
For me, you know, you didn't let it defeat you.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think that's what's really important, right when things happen
and you continue to be successful. And I think that's
one of the most important things, because it's one thing
that something happens and you like, I just give up,
I can't do this shit no more.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, it's a whole.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Other thing where you like, all right, And sometimes that
is a coping thing to just be like because our
recomments like I don't know, you don't know. I don't
they know that.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I'll tell you, they'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I don't look at comments because I know people are
like can be very cruel, and so for me, I
just the only way I cope with things is I
do my job and I don't look at the comments.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And You're strong, even like the first five.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Now, the only time I might look at something is
this is like a paid advertisement, and I'm like I
got to make sure these peole that's paying me. But
at the end of the day, it's like the way
that I look at it is the best way for
me to I know how to critique myself or take
critique from people who know me. And so if people
want to talk to me about something, or I can
go back and watch something or listen to it and
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do that and be like, ooh, I don't like you
know how this is.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I welcome that, but it's.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Just certain other things like that people can be just
really nasty and then it can make you feel really
bad about yourself.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, it can really ruin your whole day. Just one
comment and said.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Going from a complete stranger at that, like, why would
I give this person the power to ruin my day
or to make me feel a way about something? You
don't read comment and I am fighting in the comments
and it's not even sometimes it's not good about me.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'm just like, are you okay? It's not right? Yeah? Yeah,
because I don't leave nasty comments ever, like you've never
seen me.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So I kind of feel like, you know, there.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Was a time that I did read the comments and
I just literally had to like not because I found
myself trying to please all of these strangers who did
not make a real difference in my well being or
in my career or anything that I had going on.
So that was the way that I had to be like,
they don't matter, So just act like they don't exist.
Because people come. The people come with their own narratives
and make it their own scenarios, and in their mind
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they know what you're doing and how you're feeling and
what's happening, and really you don't know shit. You only
know the highlight reel of what I show you.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know what I'm saying. So yeah, I learned through
this platform.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Just don't do it, even the positive ones because sometimes
when I read it, I see I mean, the positive
ones are crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But it's always my friends because if I see something,
sometimes if I see them and it's somebody I know,
because you know those.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You're at and you're like, thanks girl.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But I can tell when people are talking ship if
one of my friends is defending me, that's what I see,
and I feel like, let me just not Look now,
I saw that you said that you want to try
online dating. Yes, yes, all right, so Jordan's here to
help you with that.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Because yes, not very successful, but we could do it together.
I was just working on my dating bio.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Which platform the riot? Yeah I heard that, but I
heard someone has to recommend you.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
There you recommended way, so it's.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Your actual picture there, so there, yes.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
And then you get then you get it white and
like you you like each other and you connect and
then you can message each other.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
This is real, very real, and then you okay, so wait,
have you taken it from the app?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Into real life? You've met somebody in real life and
you were not scared. We're in a public place, a
comic security. But these people also get betted out, like
you think you get it to be approved, you have
to get approved by the app. It's like a lot
of celebrities on theres a lot of celebrities on there,
and then a lot of corporate people to doctors, lawyers
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like you have to be like a.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Certain caliber to even be on it. Prestige.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I'm really going to do it?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Should I do it? Let me try it?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
What's your bio going to say?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, what are you gonna say about your life? Looking
to live the soft life?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Because that might be really good.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Actually a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Will respond to that and be like you guys, never
believe when you say that I've never done this before.
I've only done this my first time. Be nice.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh wow, you know I think I would love like you. Also,
I feel like I get a check for being on
one of these. You know, I'm always thinking about monetizing
ship as you should. What you think that they would
someone's gonna pay you.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, someone I met.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That. I mean like one of the brands, the not
the guys dating. Yeah, this is amazing because then you
have me on there like okay, I'm gonna go on
some brads. Wow, And I'm like kind of like a
soft ambassadorship, like yeah, I can see that this one's
personal and I'm ready to date.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Exactly because how are you meeting people now?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah? It had mainly in the industry, Yeah yeah, mainly.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, maybe you need to move away from that. I think,
what do you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Think I did the worst one in the industry?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well that was you know that is it sexy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Previously, But I'm saying like.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
I meet them where like I'm advanced.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And like what about like recommendations from friends? You know,
you never nobody advertised to hook you up with somebody
what what do you if we have to say what
you're looking for?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Give give us some honest Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Think just kind someone is just kinda.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Again, maybe a gala, like a charity gala, because then
it checks off. You have to pay to go, okay,
and they whatever cause, so that kind of checks both.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
You should think you should do.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm single, though, but but you know, observationally speaking, this
makes sense to me.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Sports events, Oh but I had sports men are horrible.
Like I'm very social now, I can talk with girls,
but when it comes to that, I want to be
really quiet.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right, So what's a good way for someone to
approach you.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That works?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Just just walk up to me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Do you want them to know who you are and
not know?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I would rather them not initially. I'd rather than not
know initially and.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Then and then as soon as you say i'm no,
like after like we've talked, and then like they start
to find out like oh my god, you're an artist
and this and that.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
You know tie, you're pretty rich.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I don't know how you're going to find a guy
that you because it's I mean, that's tough though, because
can you imagine like it's going to be hard to
find a guy who has more than you.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
See, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
And I think people say that it's not good to
date down and I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Like you're extraordinarily like am I though? Yes? I think, yes,
yes you are? You like a sugar mama. You could
be I know, but she doesn't want to be.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
So it's like hard because it's like, do I meet
somebody who anybody that can really they're either in their
fifties already married. So I don't know. Maybe I could
be a second wife.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Would you do the best one? I think so you
really would do that?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I think, oh god, is that not good? Because well
it's going to be like no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I trained. They're party trained at that point.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Party trained.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah. I feel like that's for the better. That's how
I look at it. Along with wife.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah, she's gonna love me because I'm not going to
be trouble. If I'm going to be going on tour,
I'm not really going to stress to the show exactly
like I'm gonna I'm very respectful. I know that you
know you're the first wife and you know all of that,
and you know.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
So nobody would really have to cheat on you. They
could like, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yeah, but I feel like a lot of women are
going to have a problem with me saying that.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I mean, I think that people have to also understand
that it's different. There's all kinds of relationships that people
are okay with. People are that individual choice. And yeah,
like his wife knows I would be a second wife.
I have no problem with that. I don't think anybody
should have a problem with that. But I didn't grow
up like listen, I'm from New York. Let me tell
(35:37):
you we're not. I do think here, that's not like
a thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Gig, I would probably what would rather be the first
wife if I had to be second, I feel like
I need to give the approval though.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, I can see you as a second wife. You do.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I do, because as I can see you coming into
a situation where you're just gonna get spoiled. Well, yeah,
and he's used to her already, so you're like the
refresh and then.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
You keep I do, well, I like vagina. There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, I mean, yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Need the whole attachment because women get attached.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Like so for instance, if I'm intimate with a female,
we're not cuddling after, But if I'm intimate with a man,
I'm all over his body. Yeah, but a female is
like all right, girl, this portray you know.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Scissoring.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, it's a fun time. Really, you know what what yah?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
We know what it is.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Yeah, so the technical term for it is tribbing, but yeah,
tripped to your IV that Yeah, that's a technique, I know.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Scissoring it's like scissors. Yeah, it's literally the kind of
scissor with a man still he has enough nobody wants
to Yeah, nobody wants to do you know what I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Gonna tell you from experience, it's kind of hard to do,
it is, yeah, because it's like it's like putting the
puzzle piece together, like it has to like fit, like
you gotta find like the right position, and then everybody's
body is different.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
So yeah, it's a lot. They make it look good
on porn, but in real life feel.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Good because how do you inserted. Yeah yeah, it's like
just different.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But but it's wet.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
They're both wet, and they're like slips and they're like
kissing and you're like records and you're like rubbing, like
the cochies are kissing and they're like rubbing up against
each other, so your clids are rubbing, and it's it's
like yeah, but with another vagina, but but another vagina.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Turntables, Yeah, turntables.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
It's like playing DJ, but with a VJ.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
But you know, I want to ask you this. Do
you feel like there's pressure to even settle down? I
feel like when I feel like once, because you have
your son, I feel like you have a kid, like you.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Made that happen. You can have fun.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
They don't get to there's a pressure to well, there
is a pressure.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
In my culture. They still attach a woman being married
to being fulfilled and whatever having children. Thank god I
have a child. But I feel a personal pressure. I
guess like sometimes like I've had a long day or
and I just want to have someone to just talk
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to or like just like.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Go on vacations.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
So companionship, Yeah, exactly, I'm a fan you somewhere. That's
gonna be your mission. We have a schedule and a.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Lot of young men hit on me.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I bet I'm sure they do. And how do you
feel about that.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I don't have a problem. I mean, obviously if they're
in the twenty is no no way.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
But I'm sorry, but I mean he's twenty nine, yeah,
he's noway.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
And we're like the same age.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I'm probably older.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I might be older than you.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
No way.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
You were born in eighty yeah, I was born at
seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Oh wow, just a yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Ye. Yeah, and he's I'm forty six now, he's twenty nine,
he'll be thirty, he'll be thirty in December, and I
can't fucking wait. No, so you can say, because twenty
something in forty something sounds a little crazy, but forty
something in thirty something, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It sounds a little better.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah, y yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
See.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
If I try that way I'm from, I'll be like whoa.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
You know, you've done a lot of things where you're
from that people don't do, though, and I feel like
it helps other people. I feel like, yeah, but I'm
tired of being escape cause yeah, because every time, like
even getting like tattoos was like it ain't stop you though, Yeah,
I kept.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
On going because it's addictus.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
No, but I actually love it and they don't say
nothing to all the male artists for like getting a whole,
But for me, it's like you're going to hell and
no man's gonna marry you, and you're gonna you're gonna
regret it in two years, three years, it's been like
ten twenty.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
You've done a lot of things that I feel like
are very brave and maybe you don't realize it at
the time that you're doing it. But even like things
that we take for granted, like the way you dress,
you know, I know you've had videos banns and things
like that, or even like you said, the tattoos or
even starting your career when you did you know, yeah,
(40:40):
all of that is like helps. And I know it
sucks because you are like, why do I have to
be the person all the time that everybody is coming at.
But truthfully, like people should feel like she really did
things in an unconventional way that helped a lot of people.
I even know it's hard for you to because I
know how hard it is to be even talking about
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like sex and things like that.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
People will shame you for that.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
No, they're going to kill me when this thing comes out.
When I when I heard I was gonna come I
was like, yeah, I definitely. I was so excited about it.
I don't want to hold back. I want to be
free as a woman to talk like you know, be
talk to fellow women about you and be comfortable, be free,
(41:25):
like no judgments and I don't care.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, I'm glad because you know, we've been making sure
because but I don't like the idea of you getting
any type of backlash for things.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
So that's well.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
But I also think like that has to happen for
for doors to open, for for for for them to
have these conversations like you know, I'm sure people in
my culture are doing was it sisering?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, they're not gonna talk about it, or like
dating younger men, you know, like they they frown upon
it when they you know, hear or they think I'm
dating someone younger and I'm like, it's not my fault.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I started when I started.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You know, are you fly?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
What can I do? Right?
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Like this?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
You can't do this?
Speaker 4 (42:19):
And you know you look young, and I'm just like,
I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I drink because the man they say that you can't,
but yes you can, and that's what you're showing them.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I can and not willing. There's nothing you can do
stop me. Yeah, but be mad.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
And I want I want girls who are in their
twenties or thirties and haven't made it or haven't made
or whatever money did or whatever like to see me
and think that, Okay, I still have time, like I
don't have to rush myself like at twenty five, or
I haven't got a record deal, or my modeling career
hasn't taken off. I want them to always look at
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me and be like, she's forty five and she's still
doing it because they.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Want me to stop. They're was like, when is she
going to retire? What's next? And what you're going to
And I'm just like keep.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Going, Oh, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Open doors for the younger ones, So what's next. I'm
still in the door, like very much.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
In the room, very much standing in the door, very
much in the threshold.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
I'm still gonna be here. Because I also don't want
them to think they only have five years, not at all,
ten years, like you can do it till whenever, and
I have to keep doing it till whenever so that
they know that they can keep doing it. Yes and yes,
so great, what do you think kind of embedded that
(43:36):
in you, Like, where does that come from? That drive
that like I'm gonna do this anyway. Honestly, I think
it's my name. My last name is Savage, really is.
It's not a stage name. And for some reason I
get quietly angry, Like I'm not angry, like I'm going
to lash out on social media, but when I see
an article or they say oh she's done or whatever,
(44:03):
oh something inside me. I'll go to gold and I say, God,
you see these people, you see what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
We have to prove them wrong.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
I have to do something. And then just something just happens.
It just just gets that fire of it, and then
I just get I just get worked up.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
That's the best way.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
You take people's like what they the limitations they place
on you, and say fuck them and let them motivate you.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
To make them. I'm always like, if they're mad, now
just make them matter. It turns into fuel.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah, honestly, And you're so great at what you do.
I told you, like when you were in Brooklyn and
I can't. I was like, this is fucking amazing. I
don't even go out like that, but I was like,
I'm going to see too a Savage. It felt like
such a special thing for us. I think that was
the first time I was performing.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Yeah, I can't believe it came. When they told me
that you guys are gonna come, Oh my god, I
was like, Jesus sure. I was like so nervous and like,
because obviously you're opinion, it's so I respect it so
much and just having you and you stayed to the end,
like yeah, I was Yeah, it was man, it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Well, I just want to make sure that and part
of why we wanted to make sure and I'm so
happy you're here.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
We had to make this happen.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
We like put an episode tonight because we just recorded
a couple of days ago, but we were like, we
got to figure this out, yeah somehow, just because I
want to make sure that you understand just how like
important you are. Thank you, you know for everybody I see,
like all these artists who really look up to you,
Iris Star, I know that it's like love Iristar.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yes, and just you know, I just know me.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
She reminds me me like she gets a lot of
like Iris Skirt is too sure and I'll just be like,
oh my god, I hope she doesn't let make it longer.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
She doesn't make it longer.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
But for some reason, she's she's tougher than me, Like
it took me five years to like really grow a
thick skin, but she came in the game already like strong.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
But you also, I don't know because people might have
thought you did too and not know like everything that
you've gone through to overcome, you know, But this album,
this one is personal. Show is yeah. And lastly, I
just want to ask why, why and when did you
decide to name this album? Like what what are the titles?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Were going on? And why did you settle on that?
Speaker 4 (46:28):
It took me two years to do this project, and
when we got to like eighty percent, they kept on
asking me what's the name? And I went on holiday,
I went to Moldi's by myself for the first time.
I've never done that, and I was just like my
manager kept on saying, you.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Know, what's the name of the albums?
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Like I can't think of something because it's just it's
just so personal to me.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
And that was it.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You like, perfect question, We have an answer. This one
is personally.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
I saw video you posted where you were.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Like, I went outside saying I had to make a
phone call because my team would not let me post
so recently. Yes, oh my god, this guy went off at.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Me and he he was just like he did this
whole thing about me and saying how this album is whack.
It doesn't have any afro beat, like it's too basically
just I think he was just basically saying it was
too emotional or whatever. There's no there's no club records,
there's no sorry upbeat records that they used to hearing
(47:32):
from me, and I didn't have any of the big
names on their like from like Nigeria, like the Burner
or the Wiz or whatever, like I didn't have that,
and you know, I've been blacklisted. And I was just
like what, like you a grown man are going to
set up a ring light to me and talk about
(47:56):
what I'm like, Wow, I was. I was shocked when
I saw that he did this whole thing. So I
went in on him. I was just like curse of
them all in my language, and everyone's just like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
We love this side of you.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
And I was just like wow, it was just like
funny and I got on the plane blinded in New
York and then it was everywhere like yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Because you were like I'm outside right.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
But it's like damn if you do, damn if you don't,
because if you continue to keep giving the people the
same thing, then it's like, oh, we always sound like
it's get she don't have no range or she doesn't
have any and it's like when you do do something different,
then they still won't have a problem with it, So
do you it?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
HiT's different when it's personal. Absolute Yeah, I'm telling you.
As soon as you put that album on, you like whoa,
and I do kind of feel.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Like this one's for the girlies too.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
In a way, I just want to say.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
That because normally I'm always very careful, like I want
to do songs that guys can tell and I'm like, no,
when they do records, they don't care whether girls can
write to them, but we still do.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
I'm like, listen, I'm going to do something that's real.
I needed to do this for me.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
It was yeah, maybe it wasn't for him, that's all
like he's.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Maybe maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
All day long, I kept saying, did you get that car?
All right?
Speaker 1 (49:16):
I gotta go, y'all. I want to live like that.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
I experience that more.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I want to it's too responsible, maybe conservative.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
I want to try that. Have you seen Boomerang where
she went to Edie's town?
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yes, I want to do that. All right, Well, I'm
sure someone will like, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
When you get all right, you mean your.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Comfortable?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
What's this?
Speaker 2 (49:41):
He's going to love it. No one is going to
say what's this? They're going to be like wow.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
But what do you tell them you're coming? Because that's
another thing.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
What if you can't? No, you'll pop up up.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
They know your plan, situation, they know your comments.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
They just don't know you're coming like that. I'm going
to have you done it. I don't think so you
maybe if they came over, I was like dressed up.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
I literally pulled up the church coat with nothing on,
but some boots.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Just followed coat and boots.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
If you get pulled over enough to such you you
leave your.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Coat on, there's nothing they can't just set you.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah. Yeah, and you were cold.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
I wouldn't cold and thigh boots, so to the you know,
average person. I looked fully dressed until I got inside
that door and to drop that coat.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Have you ever dressed up no roleay or anything? No,
what would you dress up as if you had to?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
I need I need help.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I don't know hence because I'm only thinking.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
Police teacher, a teak, but how the teachers dressed teacher
like sexy teacher.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
And you could be like attended, give me a.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Club.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
I've never done that.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Have you guys done?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Know? Not on a plane.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
No, No, that's not my bucket list. But I know
you be on private jets, so you should be good,
very easy. I've never done it if I was not
a private jet. Yeah, because I think they get paid to,
like my new business.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Even like the little Emirate sweets they have like a
whole year. I've never been on one of those. I
just went on with my son.
Speaker 4 (51:38):
Okay, so my son, I took him to take care
for his tenth birthday and we're both in first when
he's going back to Nigeria. I put him in economy
because you didn't know, because I also want him to
learn what it's like to be and.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
He was not.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
He was furious he should be.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
He was not having it. He was so upset.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Are you an academy or no?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I didn't fly with him. So he went with his
nanny back to ecademy.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
You would have been there. I would have been in first.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
No.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, if he flies with me, even my nanny, I
put her because she's.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
Doing to put their child in the economy. Again him
some grounding. Yeah, so how did you respond to her
being upset? Like, you know from the mammy point of view, like,
how did you?
Speaker 4 (52:23):
I was speaking to my manager. I was just like,
I need to work on this because he needs to understand.
Like sometimes he was like when we flew to London,
we flew private and he said, it doesn't have those TVs.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
I said, do you know how much this playing costs?
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:41):
And he's like, and it's really bumpy, And I said,
excuse me.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
I said, okay, So when we're going to Tokyo, we're
going to go Emirates and we went first. He loved it.
They have the bathroom, you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
He that.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
But then when he was getting back, I'm like, yo,
he's getting to.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
It ecademy or was it a different airline? Now what
if a man did that to you? Like he was
getting too comfortable with got a parent, But.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
You know, I grew up flying economy, so you know that, like, yeah,
I don't feel like his whole life should be just
like just you're.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
So dry to say, Okay, I can pay for it myself.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Then he needs to see he's like he can appreciate it.
So when he's flying with mommy, he knows that that's
what it is.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
And then when he's not, so when he grows, he
needs to work.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
For his money so that he can put So what
did he say to you?
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (53:28):
He was no when when we were checking in because
I didn't I went to the airport with them and
then they said, oh, seat twenty something something being he said, mom,
is this economy?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
You put him in a middle seat?
Speaker 5 (53:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (53:40):
But you know, like who else is usually like one
seven B maybe eight or whatever.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
But then he was like twenty something.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
He's mom, then what is this?
Speaker 3 (53:54):
Yes, you need to like I'm not flying.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
I'm with him.
Speaker 4 (53:57):
Six hours he landed. He was not happy. I always
said the person behind him was kicking his seat.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
He was all the way.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
He wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
The TV screen was too small.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
I said, your legs can't even reach the bron What.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
Are you talking about the room like.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
You said them once?
Speaker 5 (54:23):
Excuse me, gave me Coca cola.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
We had to pay for head.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
All right, where's my pajamas in my shower? Like? Wow,
I know.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
He's a little celebrity at school too.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
He is, but you know what, funny enough, I feel
like he gets teased a lot because of it. Yeah,
people people want to prove to him that they don't
want to give him preferential treatment. So they'll be like
what you feel like because you're tears having your song?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Like He's like, I was in coach, you know what happened?
Speaker 4 (54:58):
I hadn't I had an album signing true story, I'm
not making a street in London and there was a
queue of people waiting to take pictures with me, and
he was there with my mom, his grandma. So one
guy came to them and was just like, are you
guys waiting in line to take the picture?
Speaker 3 (55:12):
He said, oh, do you not see the face?
Speaker 2 (55:17):
He is a trip already.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
Okay, So when I finished, my mom told me like,
do you know what Jamil didner?
Speaker 3 (55:29):
He's what? Did he not know?
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Who?
Speaker 3 (55:32):
I said?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
You mail?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
But he's also so he's so respectful, he's so quiet,
he's very smart, he speaks French. He's amazing, Like, yeah,
but I'm a very strict mom.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
Very not really, are you really? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (55:54):
He doesn't use his iPad only on weekends. He takes
extra maths lessons, English lessons for as.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Okay, he's a little genius.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
Yeah, I don't play. I don't know when it comes
to that. Yeah, he's he's I'm strict.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
I wonder what he's gonna end up being in life too.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
I hope he doesn't get into music.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Oh he is is giving finance, so you all.
Speaker 4 (56:16):
Something he's really into, like a man gaming.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
That's why you went to Tokyo.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yah. See I like that the ability to do that.
But he's into that you take him somewhere for his birthday.
He's never gonna forget you.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Him and coach were on the.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Way well, Tim, But I appreciate you so much, honestly, Like,
I really think that you're so special.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
So we're so glad to have had you on here.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Thank you for anytime you're We would love to see anytime.
Speaker 6 (56:48):
We gotta go to golf events, we gotta go to
f one.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
I have a schedule for us.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
I went to Kasha recently and there was no one there, no,
but I went off season, the snow just melting. But
I heard there's a there's a calendar to meet. Absolutely
the first quarter, second quarter is like Japan.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
For cherry march. Ish summer is like central Pe.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
And you already got the schedule.
Speaker 6 (57:17):
The riot and bio start picking pictures.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Okay, I got you.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Are you still on there? Okay, you guys on there?
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Now? You know it's.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Right this right here, I'm not jealous, all right.
Speaker 4 (57:39):
Well, for people to know we're going to announce I
think in the next month, but definitely a tour coming up.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
I think first quarter of next year.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
Okay, you guys already know what it is.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
Going to call you guys out.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
You already know what it is, all right. This doesn't
make you guys amazing.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
This is
What's up a slip service. I'm Managela Gee.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Gigi Maguire, Geordie Jr.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Yeah, yes you are. I'm so glad that you hear,
because you know, we've been wanting to have you up here.
I know it's been like a timing thing.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I'm really excited. I feel like this is so iconic
because you see it all the time on Sosia.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
And I'm like wow, and You're like you're in the flesh. No,
this is amazing.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Last time, I mean, when was the last time I
saw you perform in Brooklyn?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It was so long ago? Yes, that was like how
old long ago was that must have been?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Was that pre COVID?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I think it was pre COVID.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Wow. Wow Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
And we're back again and it's still amazing, still doing
fantastic things. Timing is perfect, though, So yes, I'm glad
you hear. We saw you've been at fashion week events.
I saw you partying with Cardi B yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah. I showed up for him. She had an event
with take Care right.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's always lovely to see her because I was just
saying that she she just reminds me of like that
woman that she still has the inner child, that innocence,
Like she's so literally lovely and I met her a
few years ago and she's still the same.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It's funny because as she's promoting this album, she's doing
a great job of like being herself.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I saw her on the Jennifer Hudson.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Show and she was saying they asked her if she
wants more kids, and she was like, yes, because that's
how you don't get put in the home one of
them kids. Is yeah. But that's like a very logical
way to think, you know what I'm saying, Like, if
I have a bunch, somebody is gonna be the one
that's gonna hold the death.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
True, but I bet she's still gonna have a nurse.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Oh you know she has the money, nothing like that.
But anyway, you have a new project out man, and
it is definitely quite personal, you know, and I commend
you for that though this one is personal. It's the
name of the album and it starts off with a bang.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Mm, yes it does. I say this all the time.
I can't even listen to that first record. I always
have to skip it, yeah, because it's that real for me.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It was so real because it's very blunt about going
through somethings.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, it was deep.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I think it touched a cord with a lot of
people too, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
A lot of people.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
When I was recording it, I took it off because
I thought it's a bit too personal, and I thought,
you know, music is supposed to connect with people, but
it was so personal to my experience. I was like, Nah,
this is a bit too much. And then obviously my
team were like, no, you need to put that. That's
your experience, that's your truth. And funny enough, everyone tells
me like how they really connect to that record, even
(02:42):
if it's not even the heartbreaches. I'm done with my die,
I'm done with this, I'm done with family, I'm done
with whatever it is. It's just it was a very
very strong opener, and I was even really worried maybe
I should start the record with that record, with that song,
but where else would it go?
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I love it, though, it's like into.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Okay and the other thing I was gonna say besides
it because I don't think that any of us could
say that we haven't been there. Wow, you know what
I'm saying, Like, who in this room could say we
didn't catch somebody like fucking somebody else or can anybody.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
In this room say that they haven't been cheated on?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
No, no, you know, but you haven't.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh no, I definitely have been.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Like give me.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Definitely respect disrespectfully in all types of ways.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
That's the that's the part.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The can you cheat respectfully?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yes? I think so.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I think I think there are levels. I think that
some levels were just like yo, this is this. You
just have to be like wait, what.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Like what's the tell me give me an example of
respectful cheating versus disrespectful cheating.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Like I feel like in the nineteen fifties, you know,
they had like the white and then they had a
side check like two towns over. They didn't know the
home phone number, they only met at a motel a time.
But I'm saying, we need to get back to that,
like anybody you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yes, there's no discretion whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Now that situation. It didn't happen to me, But this
is a nature. She walked in I think it was
her husband's office, caught him and he stayed shot and
at her like I've told you to not this is that?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
And yeah, that's disrespectfulty, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, like
he she walks in on him with somebody else and
he's spelling at her, saying that you should have not.
Speaker 6 (04:46):
That's crazy, melting one on one yeaheah, that's bad.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
If you're the girl there, what do you do you're
sitting there.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
That's the wife. You're making the other girl feel like
she's like I don't. It's just all it's just wrong
on all levels.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
All right, who's been respectfully cheated on? All of us?
But like what's respectful when it's discreet?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
No, but I'm saying you found out that's how you
got cheated on, But like, how is it done in
a respectful manner?
Speaker 5 (05:15):
I will say this, A man is never supposed to
allow another woman to feel like she has one up
on the significant of you know what I'm saying. So
when you keep a bitch in her place and let
her know like this is what it is and this
is what it's going to be, and stay in your lane,
then that's sort of respecting the situation. Right.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I walked in on somebody in bed with another girl,
but they he was like just anyway, but he made
her get out?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Is that respectful.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I mean, yeah, it means that.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
It means that he's scared. Yeah, yeah, it means he's scared.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
He was like, she doesn't mean anything to me. I
feel like, yeah, I know, and the better. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It wasn't my bad day, but I was a lot younger.
But it would have been worse if I had to leave.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
No, exactly, That's what I'm saying. If he's like, yo,
are you get out, be like whoa yo? Yeah, that's crazy,
that is absolutely wild.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But have you ever cheated?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Never?
Speaker 1 (06:09):
And I've never left someone for cheating?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
What?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, I know, R what.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Does it not? Even?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
So I'm done? You weren't, like, that's not what.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I didn't even leave. He still left me?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
How are you gonna cheat me, cheat on me and
then leave me?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, I don't know. I've never Yeah, I've never really
left because of that. I've left for other reasons like
maybe stealing and drugs or whatever, like somebody stole from
you indirectly. Yeah, Like, but like I've never left because
I've heard, like you know, I've caught you cheating, I've
(06:48):
left and then they'll come and apologize and I'll take
that back yeah, yeah, but not not being like that
wasn't the deal breaker for me.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
While you were too a savage that you like you.
I'm just asking because I feel like if somebody cheats
on you, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
This was your fabulous stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
This is and I think that.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
That's even What makes it even worse is that because
I can't really go online and rant because I have
to protect my image, or if I see them, I
can't really react because I'm not like the average person.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So I feel like they get away with a lot more.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Or then you put it into your art and make
money off of it.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Yeah, how are you going to perform? I'm done if
you can't even listen to it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
I couldn't even perform it.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I had a recent album launching and I couldn't perform it.
I was in rehearsal and I attempted it.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
So this is really like a album but not healed.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yeah, I forgot. I'm seventy percent. I say, that's that's
that's that's a that's a paraumber.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, but it was, it was deep. It was.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It was about two years. It was intense for me.
I feel like I got older and for me to
fall for these same things was what made it even
worse for me.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Do you blame yourself? I don't like when we see that.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I blame myself even going there because first he wasn't
even my type. Like second it was just like.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It always.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Thinking why now I look at the person and I'm
just Sometimes my friends would be like do you remember,
and I'm like, please don't.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, it's really I'm like, yeah, I'm disgusted. What is
your type now? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
I say now my type is someone that just has money.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I'm tired.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Love and like I want to just I want to
be spoiled.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I want to live that soft life.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I want to be able to be like I want
to go to Central Pe and I'm just like I've
had a hard week. Can you send the plane? And
it's just like, yeah, okay, do you want the twelve,
CEO the twenty?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Who else is kind of change? Do they need a villa?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
I want to expect that. Yeah, I see. I understand
that because people could hear that and be like, okay,
go dig this. But I can understand when you have
done so much for other people, like this time, let
me like be spoiled and get everything that I deserve.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Because I'm going to be heartbroken anyway. Somehow it's just
happened all the time. Some let me be heartbroken and
dubai and shopping.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
You.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
You know, people would say, though you area more positive
ray out there, that like there is the right person,
you just haven't found him, because sometimes if you go
into things, they can I'm gonna be heartbroken anyway if.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I feel like, yeah, I'm learning to not say that,
I'm learning to know the power of the tongue, but
I still want to experience being spoiled.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Speaking of the power of the tongue, no kidding, Oh wow?
Is it? So? What do you think like makes you
stay with somebody? Is it the power of the time partly?
Do you feel like I'm about intimacy? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Does that? How much does that matter to you?
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I think when you're really into someone that there's going
to be some kind of chemistry that don't I don't
know how to do bedroom acrobatics.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I'm not.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I always say that I don't. I've never experienced that,
and I don't even enjoy it when the guys too.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Like doing too much, Yeah, and you're going too.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Long, Like for me, I think good fifteen minutes to
take fifteen minutes, fifteen twenty minutes, Well, I mean what
am I doing for two fifteen twenty minutes?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
A lot is a lot. So I feel like thirty
thirty is nice.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Twenty thirty, yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Twenty minutes it's definitely a good five rounds in boxing,
I think it is. That's a long time they've been
in there. Three minutes about to get knockout, you know
what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, two hours, one hour.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
You're doing too much or trying to like flip over
and run like it's I think it's too I think
it's too Maybe that's my problem, you know adventure.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, I don't think that's the problem though. I think
twenty minutes is decent.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
When I start saying stuff like wait, how how explictit?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Can we go?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You as expect it as you want.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
I feel like when you start saying, have you come,
I think that's your key for a month's wrap it up?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, we gotta go.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
When you start writing songs in your head, right, start
thinking about songs like.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Up, I have to take my son to school in
the morning.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
While when you start saying things to try to end it,
because that's what we do, right, you get louder.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
You asked for it, daddy. I wanted to get the theatrics.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Because I hate when you could tell they're trying to
stop themselves and you're like, bro, just it's.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Okay, It's okay to come on, Grand finale, Let's get
to it now.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Another time I love on the album is a ballad
You're not the first, You're just the worst. That is
a beautiful song and it's just so well done. And
I feel like, as you know, I think we can
all relate to that, like I've been here before.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
But you really overly.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Took Yeah, yeah, yes, that's the last one that just happened.
And I was just like, yo, you yeah, you took
the piss big time.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
But what happened?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Like, what was the worst? Because you've been through a
lot already, what makes something the worst? Like? How do
you top all the other ship.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
In the cheating Olympics? The cheating Olympics?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Mmm?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Can I say this and not give too much away? Okay?
There was a situation and because.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Because I'm I'm a public figure, it was always like
we're going to go out somewhere we can't go together
because we don't want yeah, we don't want people to
know yet. So we went to this afternoon day party
thing and he's like, I'm going to stay over here
(13:35):
and you're going to stay in this corner because you know,
I don't want people like everything's cool.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And then he's texting me.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
He's like, oh, there's some girls that's going to come around,
but I'm just going to be pretending, and I'm like okay,
and then he's like rubbing on some other in front
of me. What And then he's like, you know, it's
just because I don't want I don't want guys to suspect,
you know, I don't want my friends to think that,
(14:02):
you know, I'm gay or whatever. Like this girl's here
and I've just got to like like with the girl
like too much, and I'm literally where you are and
I'm just like, you know, just okay.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
You're like, let me go on ahead, and I would
have backed it up on the nearest penis.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Okay, you want to do that because let's see if
you can eat.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
And I couldn't say nothing, I couldn't do nothing. And
then it's crazy because the girl's like, oh my god,
you what, savage, I love you so much.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I love you.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
It was and that happened a few times in different scenarios. Yeah,
We'll be in an award show or something and he
would walk in with somebody else and be like, oh,
you know, it's just for the cameras, it's just you
know whatever, And I'm like, now I'm talking about I'm like,
why did I even do that?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Like for so after the first time, it's like, okay, bro,
this is not good. That's what you never showed up with,
like a fake thing. Never you should have gave him.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's different for women though, That's the thing, right because
as soon as you pop out like with someone and
then if you go with somebody.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Else, start counting.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And he was fast as you don't want that, but guy,
it's regular.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Yeah, so I could and he knew that, and he
knew that I wasn't. I wasn't that type of person anyway.
But that's what I'm saying that he wasn't the first,
but he was the worst because he played on the
fact that my being in the public I was I
could there was so much I could do.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
That's manipulative.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Yeah, why do you feel like you had to protect
that though and be secreted.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Was that your idea or his idea?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Initially I think it was both of our ideas because again,
like you said, I didn't want people to start counting
this person and that person that person for me, So
I wanted to make sure, like both of us said,
we wanted to make sure like this was for real
and yeah, before we went public. And then when I
was kind of like yeah, I'm ready to go public,
then it was just like no, no, not yeah, because
(16:08):
you know you're about to do this, drop this video,
this movie and this, and you don't want all that,
you know, to overshadow the great work that you're doing.
And I kept on thinking, oh my god, it cares
for me.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
He cares for my career.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's not trying to be like getting cloud from there.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah exactly.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
And it was just and it kept on going and
going and your breaking point. That's why I was he
just ghosted for six months? Oh yeah, did that ghosted?
And then yeah, how long were you all together?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
This went on for.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
About two years, on and off for two years, and
then the last one was like two years and then
two six months. Sorry, and but he's ghosted me before
like one week, one month, whatever, and I always go back,
but this time after like the third month, saying like,
who's waiting after three months? That's crazy. After the third month,
(17:07):
I was moving and then I realized that there was
some things that he had given me, Like there was
this teddy bear he gave me and went to the arcade,
and there was this watch, and there was a fake
bracelet that he gave me whatever, and then I threw
it out. But the moment I threw it out, there
was a release. I threw everything, all the fakeship. Yeah,
(17:32):
when he came back six months later, I feel like
the spell was broken.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Because once we closed that window bye.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
When I threw that stuff out, I felt like there
was something. Something happened, Something happened.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, I want you to start treating men like dogs,
just to see.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I don't know if I have it in me. I
did try.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
I wrote by it in my song there's a song
called Twisted. When I was trying to be the toxic one,
Oh yes you were, and he was still he was
so nice about it, and I was just like, no,
I can't do this, like.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And I think when you act like not who you
are like you were saying and twisted that is an
indication that this is not a place I want to be.
Like when I started doing things that's out a character
And why am I like playing a certain role that's
not like whatever you want to be with you got
to be who you are.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, Like I want to just be vulnerable.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
I want to be soft, but I try to be
I'm outside, I'm want to be a Boddy and and
and he was so nice about it, and I was
just like, I don't like how this is making me
feel Like he would call me and I would see
them as cool and I will purposely go like a
day and not call back.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
And when I call back.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I'm I'm ready to be like yeah, And he's just like, oh,
it's cool, and I'm just like, na, this isn't why's
the word? Why didn't you like him? I didn't like
him from the start.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I just wanted to just get experience and just get
over the situation. Guy was collateral damage and he was
so nice.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
Everything I do is like, oh my god, you don't
like nice guys. No nice to the point where I
don't feel like he's genuine, Like if I did a
song or something like, Oh, what do you think this
song is just going to be number one everyone? I'm like, no,
it's not like I didn't even have lyrics. This is
just mumble on the track. Song hasn't even done yet,
(19:28):
and he's just like.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
He's looking and he's just.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Like wow, he's like a fan.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yes, I think that kind of like just put me on.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
So you moved back to London, right, how is that
going now? What do you think about a change of
I know you've been there before, but doing that was
part of the reason why you went back to kind
of like, you know, release some of that too, like
the energy. No.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
I just think like musically where I am because I'm
not solely just doing aphrobeat, you know, so it's very
R and B influenced. Yeah, And I couldn't do that
being in Niger because I'm surrounded by afrobeat. I'm in
the radio, I'm in the car, I'm listening to afrobeat
in the clubs I'm listening. I needed to move from
that environment and be more in America and be more
(20:14):
in Europe, more of Europe, because they, I think still
appreciate late nineties early two thousand.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
ORB We heard the Tamya sample that.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Yeah, man, I had to. I had to.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
That genre is still very much appreciated, more so outs
even than America.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
You know, you went to school also for music, you
went to Berkeley. How do you think that helps? And
do you think that, say there's younger people now who
are like, oh, I want to do music, would you
recommend that they actually go to school? Because I'm just wondering,
like being trained in that way, if it's an aspiration
for somebody who's in, you know, going to school.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
What would you say.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Initially, when my parents told me, I felt that doesn't
make sense, like Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston then like they
didn't go to a music school. But now I realize
how blessed I am to have done it, because even
just reading contracts and scene where its like in perpetuity,
I know that that means like forever and ever and ever,
(21:13):
and you might not know that. So for me, I'm
able to be in the studio with or be in
rehearsal and say let's go to the middle a, let's
go to the bridge, or let's modulate or lets change keys,
And when they're saying stuff like that, I understand because
that I have a musical background, and I know that
sometimes with musicians it might be intimidating when you're around
(21:34):
certain people. So for me, it just build confidence. And yeah,
I like that.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
And so you actually are going to be helping when
it comes to educating writists.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
So tell me about that.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I want to open a music school.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I really want to open the music So.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I feel like there's so many different aspects of music,
not just being an artist, you know, because that's what
everybody sees and you think that that's the only way
to make money or making it impact. But there's a
music therapy where you can help with patients that have
cancer or on a spectrum or whatever like that. You
can use music for healing, music scoring and movies, songwriting production.
(22:17):
There's so many different parts of music.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
So jingles, yeah, commercial, yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
So I feel like I don't necessarily have to sign
an artist to give back. I feel like this is
my way of giving back.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
More genuine to who you are. Okay, I got it
to make a label.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Right exactly, And I think not everyone's called to do that,
like you. I couldn't even like I would be all
night worrying about somebody else like worrying about are you
going to trend? Are you pregnant or of you whatever?
Like that's a lot of responsibility and I don't think
I have that calling, but I do want to help
in terms of like this music school and I'm speaking
(22:58):
to Berkeley.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Actually really don't to open like a franchise.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Because I don't know anyone else who's done that.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, I know it's a big it's a big thing,
but yeah, you know, Tima, you've been through so much
and you've done a lot of things, like I think
earlier on that kind of has laid the groundwork for
other people.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
But I saw recently that there was a media personality
who actually just apologized to you really yeah for coming
at you like before.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Recently.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, I just saw that she posted they were posting this, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
A podcast. I didn't say that.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Yeah, there's an apology that she kind of came at
you when your tape was that whole situation.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And she was like just apologetic, like I should not
have that, I have not. We got to make sure
you don't sert yourself. No, I mean.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
It's really new, beautiful, it really new, but we'll make
sure you see it.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Wait, she apologized for coming at me. Yeah, I didn't
even see her coming at me.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I mean, I guess it was a long time ago,
but now, but it was really bad. You know, I
don't know why they came for me. I don't understand
that either, because that's traumatizing. And I don't understand how
like this, because you know, sometimes people think something tragic
can happen and they'll think that like it's part of
a rollout.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
That's first of all, they thought I did that on
purpose before her career is dying and she's did it.
And I'm like, and you think that that's to like
have my coochie all over And that wasn't even like
some sexy. Even if I was to do a sex tape,
I think I would make more of efforts. So I
(24:41):
don't know. You know, if there was somebody Nigeria, he's
in politics, and he called me and he said, you
owe Nigerians an apology, especially Nigerian young girls for doing that.
And I said, sir, what do you mean. Yeah, I said,
I didn't put that out. He said, even just doing
(25:02):
it and putting it on tape. I said, that was
my boyfriend at the time, and I didn't even know
he was recording me, by the way, like I wasn't. Yeah,
that's the story.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's a violation.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah, I didn't even know.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Can you imagine how many people are violated like that
and we never know.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Have you ever a quarter a guy trying to feel you?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
No, I have, really, but I always have it.
Speaker 6 (25:22):
In the back of my mind when I'm first sleeping
with someone for the first time, that I'm like.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Something you have to know about?
Speaker 4 (25:30):
Yeah, Ever since then, I I don't. It's always in
my hotel, my room, my house, or whatever. I don't
go to your place because you might have a camera.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Anyway, that's equipment.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
But then the fact that something could happen and then
you get blamed for something unfortunate like that.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Women, Yeah, they were like, and I'm like, I've not
done nothing wrong. I've literally it was really bad, Like
so I would love to see this such because I
didn't even I just shut off that period.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I don't know how I go through it.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
You know, some things that we go through make us
so much stronger later because it kind of feels like,
what worse is going to happen?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
I don't think I dealt with it and I think
I just kind of like went through I just brushed
it off, and I think now I'm dealing with it.
I'm saying to myself, it's okay to say I went
through this, this happened, and just live in it and
try and get through it or accept the reality.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
For me, you know, you didn't let it defeat you.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I think that's what's really important, right when things happen
and you continue to be successful. And I think that's
one of the most important things, because it's one thing
that something happens and you like, I just give up,
I can't do this shit no more.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, it's a whole.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Other thing where you like, all right, And sometimes that
is a coping thing to just be like because our
recomments like I don't know, you don't know. I don't
they know that.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I'll tell you, they'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I don't look at comments because I know people are
like can be very cruel, and so for me, I
just the only way I cope with things is I
do my job and I don't look at the comments.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
And You're strong, even like the first five.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Now, the only time I might look at something is
this is like a paid advertisement, and I'm like I
got to make sure these peole that's paying me. But
at the end of the day, it's like the way
that I look at it is the best way for
me to I know how to critique myself or take
critique from people who know me. And so if people
want to talk to me about something, or I can
go back and watch something or listen to it and
(27:37):
do that and be like, ooh, I don't like you
know how this is.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I welcome that, but it's.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Just certain other things like that people can be just
really nasty and then it can make you feel really
bad about yourself.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yeah, it can really ruin your whole day. Just one
comment and said.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Going from a complete stranger at that, like, why would
I give this person the power to ruin my day
or to make me feel a way about something? You
don't read comment and I am fighting in the comments
and it's not even sometimes it's not good about me.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'm just like, are you okay? It's not right? Yeah? Yeah,
because I don't leave nasty comments ever, like you've never
seen me.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So I kind of feel like, you know, there.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Was a time that I did read the comments and
I just literally had to like not because I found
myself trying to please all of these strangers who did
not make a real difference in my well being or
in my career or anything that I had going on.
So that was the way that I had to be like,
they don't matter, So just act like they don't exist.
Because people come. The people come with their own narratives
and make it their own scenarios, and in their mind
(28:39):
they know what you're doing and how you're feeling and
what's happening, and really you don't know shit. You only
know the highlight reel of what I show you.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
You know what I'm saying. So yeah, I learned through
this platform.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Just don't do it, even the positive ones because sometimes
when I read it, I see I mean, the positive
ones are crazy.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
But it's always my friends because if I see something,
sometimes if I see them and it's somebody I know,
because you know those.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
You're at and you're like, thanks girl.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
But I can tell when people are talking ship if
one of my friends is defending me, that's what I see,
and I feel like, let me just not Look now,
I saw that you said that you want to try
online dating. Yes, yes, all right, so Jordan's here to
help you with that.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Because yes, not very successful, but we could do it together.
I was just working on my dating bio.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Which platform the riot? Yeah I heard that, but I
heard someone has to recommend you.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
There you recommended way, so it's.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Your actual picture there, so there, yes.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
And then you get then you get it white and
like you you like each other and you connect and
then you can message each other.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
This is real, very real, and then you okay, so wait,
have you taken it from the app?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Into real life? You've met somebody in real life and
you were not scared. We're in a public place, a
comic security. But these people also get betted out, like
you think you get it to be approved, you have
to get approved by the app. It's like a lot
of celebrities on theres a lot of celebrities on there,
and then a lot of corporate people to doctors, lawyers
(30:22):
like you have to be like a.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Certain caliber to even be on it. Prestige.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I'm really going to do it?
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Should I do it? Let me try it?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
What's your bio going to say?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, what are you gonna say about your life? Looking
to live the soft life?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Because that might be really good.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Actually a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Will respond to that and be like you guys, never
believe when you say that I've never done this before.
I've only done this my first time. Be nice.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh wow, you know I think I would love like you. Also,
I feel like I get a check for being on
one of these. You know, I'm always thinking about monetizing
ship as you should. What you think that they would
someone's gonna pay you.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, someone I met.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That. I mean like one of the brands, the not
the guys dating. Yeah, this is amazing because then you
have me on there like okay, I'm gonna go on
some brads. Wow, And I'm like kind of like a
soft ambassadorship, like yeah, I can see that this one's
personal and I'm ready to date.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Exactly because how are you meeting people now?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah? It had mainly in the industry, Yeah yeah, mainly.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, maybe you need to move away from that. I think,
what do you.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Think I did the worst one in the industry?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Well that was you know that is it sexy? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Previously, But I'm saying like.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
I meet them where like I'm advanced.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
And like what about like recommendations from friends? You know,
you never nobody advertised to hook you up with somebody
what what do you if we have to say what
you're looking for?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Give give us some honest Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Think just kind someone is just kinda.
Speaker 6 (32:31):
Again, maybe a gala, like a charity gala, because then
it checks off. You have to pay to go, okay,
and they whatever cause, so that kind of checks both.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
You should think you should do.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm single, though, but but you know, observationally speaking, this
makes sense to me.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Sports events, Oh but I had sports men are horrible.
Like I'm very social now, I can talk with girls,
but when it comes to that, I want to be
really quiet.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right, So what's a good way for someone to
approach you.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
That works?
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Just just walk up to me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Do you want them to know who you are and
not know?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I would rather them not initially. I'd rather than not
know initially and.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Then and then as soon as you say i'm no,
like after like we've talked, and then like they start
to find out like oh my god, you're an artist
and this and that.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
You know tie, you're pretty rich.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I don't know how you're going to find a guy
that you because it's I mean, that's tough though, because
can you imagine like it's going to be hard to
find a guy who has more than you.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
See, that's the thing.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
And I think people say that it's not good to
date down and I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Like you're extraordinarily like am I though? Yes? I think, yes,
yes you are? You like a sugar mama. You could
be I know, but she doesn't want to be.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
So it's like hard because it's like, do I meet
somebody who anybody that can really they're either in their
fifties already married. So I don't know. Maybe I could
be a second wife.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Would you do the best one? I think so you
really would do that?
Speaker 3 (34:34):
I think, oh god, is that not good? Because well
it's going to be like no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I trained. They're party trained at that point.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Party trained.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Yeah. I feel like that's for the better. That's how
I look at it. Along with wife.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah, she's gonna love me because I'm not going to
be trouble. If I'm going to be going on tour,
I'm not really going to stress to the show exactly
like I'm gonna I'm very respectful. I know that you
know you're the first wife and you know all of that,
and you know.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
So nobody would really have to cheat on you. They
could like, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Yeah, but I feel like a lot of women are
going to have a problem with me saying that.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I mean, I think that people have to also understand
that it's different. There's all kinds of relationships that people
are okay with. People are that individual choice. And yeah,
like his wife knows I would be a second wife.
I have no problem with that. I don't think anybody
should have a problem with that. But I didn't grow
up like listen, I'm from New York. Let me tell
(35:37):
you we're not. I do think here, that's not like
a thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Gig, I would probably what would rather be the first
wife if I had to be second, I feel like
I need to give the approval though.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, I can see you as a second wife. You do.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I do, because as I can see you coming into
a situation where you're just gonna get spoiled. Well, yeah,
and he's used to her already, so you're like the
refresh and then.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
You keep I do, well, I like vagina. There's a difference.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, I mean, yeah, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Need the whole attachment because women get attached.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Like so for instance, if I'm intimate with a female,
we're not cuddling after, But if I'm intimate with a man,
I'm all over his body. Yeah, but a female is
like all right, girl, this portray you know.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Scissoring.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, it's a fun time. Really, you know what what yah?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
We know what it is.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
Yeah, so the technical term for it is tribbing, but yeah,
tripped to your IV that Yeah, that's a technique, I know.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Scissoring it's like scissors. Yeah, it's literally the kind of
scissor with a man still he has enough nobody wants
to Yeah, nobody wants to do you know what I'm.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Gonna tell you from experience, it's kind of hard to do,
it is, yeah, because it's like it's like putting the
puzzle piece together, like it has to like fit, like
you gotta find like the right position, and then everybody's
body is different.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
So yeah, it's a lot. They make it look good
on porn, but in real life feel.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Good because how do you inserted. Yeah yeah, it's like
just different.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
But but it's wet.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
They're both wet, and they're like slips and they're like
kissing and you're like records and you're like rubbing, like
the cochies are kissing and they're like rubbing up against
each other, so your clids are rubbing, and it's it's
like yeah, but with another vagina, but but another vagina.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Turntables, Yeah, turntables.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
It's like playing DJ, but with a VJ.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
But you know, I want to ask you this. Do
you feel like there's pressure to even settle down? I
feel like when I feel like once, because you have
your son, I feel like you have a kid, like you.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Made that happen. You can have fun.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
They don't get to there's a pressure to well, there
is a pressure.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
In my culture. They still attach a woman being married
to being fulfilled and whatever having children. Thank god I
have a child. But I feel a personal pressure. I
guess like sometimes like I've had a long day or
and I just want to have someone to just talk
(38:44):
to or like just like.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Go on vacations.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
So companionship, Yeah, exactly, I'm a fan you somewhere. That's
gonna be your mission. We have a schedule and a.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Lot of young men hit on me.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
I bet I'm sure they do. And how do you
feel about that.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
I don't have a problem. I mean, obviously if they're
in the twenty is no no way.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
But I'm sorry, but I mean he's twenty nine, yeah,
he's noway.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
And we're like the same age.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I'm probably older.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
I might be older than you.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
No way.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
You were born in eighty yeah, I was born at
seventy nine.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Oh wow, just a yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Ye. Yeah, and he's I'm forty six now, he's twenty nine,
he'll be thirty, he'll be thirty in December, and I
can't fucking wait. No, so you can say, because twenty
something in forty something sounds a little crazy, but forty
something in thirty something, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It sounds a little better.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, yeah, y yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
See.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
If I try that way I'm from, I'll be like whoa.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
You know, you've done a lot of things where you're
from that people don't do, though, and I feel like
it helps other people. I feel like, yeah, but I'm
tired of being escape cause yeah, because every time, like
even getting like tattoos was like it ain't stop you though, Yeah,
I kept.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
On going because it's addictus.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
No, but I actually love it and they don't say
nothing to all the male artists for like getting a whole,
But for me, it's like you're going to hell and
no man's gonna marry you, and you're gonna you're gonna
regret it in two years, three years, it's been like
ten twenty.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
You've done a lot of things that I feel like
are very brave and maybe you don't realize it at
the time that you're doing it. But even like things
that we take for granted, like the way you dress,
you know, I know you've had videos banns and things
like that, or even like you said, the tattoos or
even starting your career when you did you know, yeah,
(40:40):
all of that is like helps. And I know it
sucks because you are like, why do I have to
be the person all the time that everybody is coming at.
But truthfully, like people should feel like she really did
things in an unconventional way that helped a lot of people.
I even know it's hard for you to because I
know how hard it is to be even talking about
(41:02):
like sex and things like that.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
People will shame you for that.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
No, they're going to kill me when this thing comes out.
When I when I heard I was gonna come I
was like, yeah, I definitely. I was so excited about it.
I don't want to hold back. I want to be
free as a woman to talk like you know, be
talk to fellow women about you and be comfortable, be free,
(41:25):
like no judgments and I don't care.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, I'm glad because you know, we've been making sure
because but I don't like the idea of you getting
any type of backlash for things.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
So that's well.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
But I also think like that has to happen for
for doors to open, for for for for them to
have these conversations like you know, I'm sure people in
my culture are doing was it sisering?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah, yeah, they're not gonna talk about it, or like
dating younger men, you know, like they they frown upon
it when they you know, hear or they think I'm
dating someone younger and I'm like, it's not my fault.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
I started when I started.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
You know, are you fly?
Speaker 2 (42:15):
What can I do? Right?
Speaker 1 (42:17):
Like this?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
You can't do this?
Speaker 4 (42:19):
And you know you look young, and I'm just like,
I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
I drink because the man they say that you can't,
but yes you can, and that's what you're showing them.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I can and not willing. There's nothing you can do
stop me. Yeah, but be mad.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
And I want I want girls who are in their
twenties or thirties and haven't made it or haven't made
or whatever money did or whatever like to see me
and think that, Okay, I still have time, like I
don't have to rush myself like at twenty five, or
I haven't got a record deal, or my modeling career
hasn't taken off. I want them to always look at
(42:54):
me and be like, she's forty five and she's still
doing it because they.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Want me to stop. They're was like, when is she
going to retire? What's next? And what you're going to
And I'm just like keep.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Going, Oh, I'm not going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Open doors for the younger ones, So what's next. I'm
still in the door, like very much.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
In the room, very much standing in the door, very
much in the threshold.
Speaker 4 (43:15):
I'm still gonna be here. Because I also don't want
them to think they only have five years, not at all,
ten years, like you can do it till whenever, and
I have to keep doing it till whenever so that
they know that they can keep doing it. Yes and yes,
so great, what do you think kind of embedded that
(43:36):
in you, Like, where does that come from? That drive
that like I'm gonna do this anyway. Honestly, I think
it's my name. My last name is Savage, really is.
It's not a stage name. And for some reason I
get quietly angry, Like I'm not angry, like I'm going
to lash out on social media, but when I see
an article or they say oh she's done or whatever,
(44:03):
oh something inside me. I'll go to gold and I say, God,
you see these people, you see what they're saying.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
We have to prove them wrong.
Speaker 4 (44:10):
I have to do something. And then just something just happens.
It just just gets that fire of it, and then
I just get I just get worked up.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
That's the best way.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
You take people's like what they the limitations they place
on you, and say fuck them and let them motivate you.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
To make them. I'm always like, if they're mad, now
just make them matter. It turns into fuel.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Yeah, honestly, And you're so great at what you do.
I told you, like when you were in Brooklyn and
I can't. I was like, this is fucking amazing. I
don't even go out like that, but I was like,
I'm going to see too a Savage. It felt like
such a special thing for us. I think that was
the first time I was performing.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I think it was.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
Yeah, I can't believe it came. When they told me
that you guys are gonna come, Oh my god, I
was like, Jesus sure. I was like so nervous and like,
because obviously you're opinion, it's so I respect it so
much and just having you and you stayed to the end,
like yeah, I was Yeah, it was man, it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Well, I just want to make sure that and part
of why we wanted to make sure and I'm so
happy you're here.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
We had to make this happen.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
We like put an episode tonight because we just recorded
a couple of days ago, but we were like, we
got to figure this out, yeah somehow, just because I
want to make sure that you understand just how like
important you are. Thank you, you know for everybody I see,
like all these artists who really look up to you,
Iris Star, I know that it's like love Iristar.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yes, and just you know, I just know me.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
She reminds me me like she gets a lot of
like Iris Skirt is too sure and I'll just be like,
oh my god, I hope she doesn't let make it longer.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
She doesn't make it longer.
Speaker 4 (45:54):
But for some reason, she's she's tougher than me, Like
it took me five years to like really grow a
thick skin, but she came in the game already like strong.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
But you also, I don't know because people might have
thought you did too and not know like everything that
you've gone through to overcome, you know, But this album,
this one is personal. Show is yeah. And lastly, I
just want to ask why, why and when did you
decide to name this album? Like what what are the titles?
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Were going on? And why did you settle on that?
Speaker 4 (46:28):
It took me two years to do this project, and
when we got to like eighty percent, they kept on
asking me what's the name? And I went on holiday,
I went to Moldi's by myself for the first time.
I've never done that, and I was just like my
manager kept on saying, you.
Speaker 3 (46:47):
Know, what's the name of the albums?
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Like I can't think of something because it's just it's
just so personal to me.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
And that was it.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
You like, perfect question, We have an answer. This one
is personally.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
I saw video you posted where you were.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
Like, I went outside saying I had to make a
phone call because my team would not let me post
so recently. Yes, oh my god, this guy went off at.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Me and he he was just like he did this
whole thing about me and saying how this album is whack.
It doesn't have any afro beat, like it's too basically
just I think he was just basically saying it was
too emotional or whatever. There's no there's no club records,
there's no sorry upbeat records that they used to hearing
(47:32):
from me, and I didn't have any of the big
names on their like from like Nigeria, like the Burner
or the Wiz or whatever, like I didn't have that,
and you know, I've been blacklisted. And I was just
like what, like you a grown man are going to
set up a ring light to me and talk about
(47:56):
what I'm like, Wow, I was. I was shocked when
I saw that he did this whole thing. So I
went in on him. I was just like curse of
them all in my language, and everyone's just like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:09):
I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
We love this side of you.
Speaker 4 (48:13):
And I was just like wow, it was just like
funny and I got on the plane blinded in New
York and then it was everywhere like yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Because you were like I'm outside right.
Speaker 5 (48:22):
But it's like damn if you do, damn if you don't,
because if you continue to keep giving the people the
same thing, then it's like, oh, we always sound like
it's get she don't have no range or she doesn't
have any and it's like when you do do something different,
then they still won't have a problem with it, So
do you it?
Speaker 1 (48:35):
HiT's different when it's personal. Absolute Yeah, I'm telling you.
As soon as you put that album on, you like whoa,
and I do kind of feel.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Like this one's for the girlies too.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
In a way, I just want to say.
Speaker 4 (48:46):
That because normally I'm always very careful, like I want
to do songs that guys can tell and I'm like, no,
when they do records, they don't care whether girls can
write to them, but we still do.
Speaker 3 (48:54):
Anyway.
Speaker 4 (48:55):
I'm like, listen, I'm going to do something that's real.
I needed to do this for me.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
It was yeah, maybe it wasn't for him, that's all
like he's.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Maybe maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
All day long, I kept saying, did you get that car?
All right?
Speaker 1 (49:16):
I gotta go, y'all. I want to live like that.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
I experience that more.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
I want to it's too responsible, maybe conservative.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
I want to try that. Have you seen Boomerang where
she went to Edie's town?
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Yes, I want to do that. All right, Well, I'm
sure someone will like, I'm sure.
Speaker 2 (49:35):
When you get all right, you mean your.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Comfortable?
Speaker 3 (49:40):
What's this?
Speaker 2 (49:41):
He's going to love it. No one is going to
say what's this? They're going to be like wow.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
But what do you tell them you're coming? Because that's
another thing.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
What if you can't? No, you'll pop up up.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
They know your plan, situation, they know your comments.
Speaker 2 (49:59):
They just don't know you're coming like that. I'm going
to have you done it. I don't think so you
maybe if they came over, I was like dressed up.
Speaker 5 (50:08):
I literally pulled up the church coat with nothing on,
but some boots.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Just followed coat and boots.
Speaker 1 (50:19):
If you get pulled over enough to such you you
leave your.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Coat on, there's nothing they can't just set you.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
Yeah. Yeah, and you were cold.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
I wouldn't cold and thigh boots, so to the you know,
average person. I looked fully dressed until I got inside
that door and to drop that coat.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
Have you ever dressed up no roleay or anything? No,
what would you dress up as if you had to?
Speaker 3 (50:48):
I need I need help.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
I don't know hence because I'm only thinking.
Speaker 5 (50:52):
Police teacher, a teak, but how the teachers dressed teacher
like sexy teacher.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
And you could be like attended, give me a.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Club.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
I've never done that.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Have you guys done?
Speaker 2 (51:11):
Know? Not on a plane.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
No, No, that's not my bucket list. But I know
you be on private jets, so you should be good,
very easy. I've never done it if I was not
a private jet. Yeah, because I think they get paid to,
like my new business.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Even like the little Emirate sweets they have like a
whole year. I've never been on one of those. I
just went on with my son.
Speaker 4 (51:38):
Okay, so my son, I took him to take care
for his tenth birthday and we're both in first when
he's going back to Nigeria. I put him in economy
because you didn't know, because I also want him to
learn what it's like to be and.
Speaker 3 (51:53):
He was not.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
He was furious he should be.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
He was not having it. He was so upset.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Are you an academy or no?
Speaker 1 (52:01):
I didn't fly with him. So he went with his
nanny back to ecademy.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
You would have been there. I would have been in first.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
No.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, if he flies with me, even my nanny, I
put her because she's.
Speaker 5 (52:10):
Doing to put their child in the economy. Again him
some grounding. Yeah, so how did you respond to her
being upset? Like, you know from the mammy point of view, like,
how did you?
Speaker 4 (52:23):
I was speaking to my manager. I was just like,
I need to work on this because he needs to understand.
Like sometimes he was like when we flew to London,
we flew private and he said, it doesn't have those TVs.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
I said, do you know how much this playing costs?
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:41):
And he's like, and it's really bumpy, And I said,
excuse me.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
I said, okay, So when we're going to Tokyo, we're
going to go Emirates and we went first. He loved it.
They have the bathroom, you know, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
He that.
Speaker 3 (52:54):
But then when he was getting back, I'm like, yo,
he's getting to.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
It ecademy or was it a different airline? Now what
if a man did that to you? Like he was
getting too comfortable with got a parent, But.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
You know, I grew up flying economy, so you know that, like, yeah,
I don't feel like his whole life should be just
like just you're.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
So dry to say, Okay, I can pay for it myself.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Then he needs to see he's like he can appreciate it.
So when he's flying with mommy, he knows that that's
what it is.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
And then when he's not, so when he grows, he
needs to work.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
For his money so that he can put So what
did he say to you?
Speaker 3 (53:28):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (53:28):
He was no when when we were checking in because
I didn't I went to the airport with them and
then they said, oh, seat twenty something something being he said, mom,
is this economy?
Speaker 2 (53:38):
You put him in a middle seat?
Speaker 5 (53:40):
No?
Speaker 1 (53:40):
But you know, like who else is usually like one
seven B maybe eight or whatever.
Speaker 3 (53:46):
But then he was like twenty something.
Speaker 2 (53:47):
He's mom, then what is this?
Speaker 3 (53:54):
Yes, you need to like I'm not flying.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
I'm with him.
Speaker 4 (53:57):
Six hours he landed. He was not happy. I always
said the person behind him was kicking his seat.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
He was all the way.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
He wasn't good.
Speaker 2 (54:12):
The TV screen was too small.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
I said, your legs can't even reach the bron What.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
Are you talking about the room like.
Speaker 3 (54:20):
You said them once?
Speaker 5 (54:23):
Excuse me, gave me Coca cola.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
We had to pay for head.
Speaker 2 (54:33):
All right, where's my pajamas in my shower? Like? Wow,
I know.
Speaker 1 (54:38):
He's a little celebrity at school too.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
He is, but you know what, funny enough, I feel
like he gets teased a lot because of it. Yeah,
people people want to prove to him that they don't
want to give him preferential treatment. So they'll be like
what you feel like because you're tears having your song?
Speaker 2 (54:54):
Like He's like, I was in coach, you know what happened?
Speaker 4 (54:58):
I hadn't I had an album signing true story, I'm
not making a street in London and there was a
queue of people waiting to take pictures with me, and
he was there with my mom, his grandma. So one
guy came to them and was just like, are you
guys waiting in line to take the picture?
Speaker 3 (55:12):
He said, oh, do you not see the face?
Speaker 2 (55:17):
He is a trip already.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
Okay, So when I finished, my mom told me like,
do you know what Jamil didner?
Speaker 3 (55:29):
He's what? Did he not know?
Speaker 1 (55:32):
Who?
Speaker 3 (55:32):
I said?
Speaker 2 (55:33):
You mail?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
But he's also so he's so respectful, he's so quiet,
he's very smart, he speaks French. He's amazing, Like, yeah,
but I'm a very strict mom.
Speaker 3 (55:52):
Very not really, are you really? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (55:54):
He doesn't use his iPad only on weekends. He takes
extra maths lessons, English lessons for as.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Okay, he's a little genius.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
Yeah, I don't play. I don't know when it comes
to that. Yeah, he's he's I'm strict.
Speaker 2 (56:07):
I wonder what he's gonna end up being in life too.
Speaker 3 (56:10):
I hope he doesn't get into music.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Oh he is is giving finance, so you all.
Speaker 4 (56:16):
Something he's really into, like a man gaming.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
That's why you went to Tokyo.
Speaker 1 (56:23):
Yah. See I like that the ability to do that.
But he's into that you take him somewhere for his birthday.
He's never gonna forget you.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Him and coach were on the.
Speaker 1 (56:35):
Way well, Tim, But I appreciate you so much, honestly, Like,
I really think that you're so special.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
So we're so glad to have had you on here.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
Thank you for anytime you're We would love to see anytime.
Speaker 6 (56:48):
We gotta go to golf events, we gotta go to
f one.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
I have a schedule for us.
Speaker 4 (56:54):
I went to Kasha recently and there was no one there, no,
but I went off season, the snow just melting. But
I heard there's a there's a calendar to meet. Absolutely
the first quarter, second quarter is like Japan.
Speaker 3 (57:07):
For cherry march. Ish summer is like central Pe.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
And you already got the schedule.
Speaker 6 (57:17):
The riot and bio start picking pictures.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
Okay, I got you.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
Are you still on there? Okay, you guys on there?
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Now? You know it's.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
Right this right here, I'm not jealous, all right.
Speaker 4 (57:39):
Well, for people to know we're going to announce I
think in the next month, but definitely a tour coming up.
Speaker 3 (57:48):
I think first quarter of next year.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
Okay, you guys already know what it is.
Speaker 3 (57:53):
Going to call you guys out.
Speaker 1 (57:54):
You already know what it is, all right. This doesn't
make you guys amazing.
Speaker 2 (58:03):
This is
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