December 9, 2025 • 44 mins
In this hilarious, vulnerable, and fast-moving episode, comedian Jay Jurden joins Lip Service to break down everything from his new Hulu special Yes Ma’am to sexuality, marriage, family, and the wild reality of being a queer Black comic in today’s comedy boom. Jay opens up about filming his debut hour in New Orleans — “the gayest, Blackest city in the South” — and why the energy of the Joy Theater made it the perfect home for his special.
Jay gets real about his relationship: being bisexual while married to a gay man, how they first met in college, who proposed to whom (yes, there were multiple proposals), navigating honesty, threesomes, poly dynamics in NYC, and why they chose to make their long-term commitment official. He also shares how moving to New York together shaped their marriage, how writing for Jon Stewart changed their lives, and why their wedding meant so much to their families.
The comedy talk goes deep — from Paul Mooney’s legacy and “sassy” influence, to how few openly gay Black male comedians exist, to messy behind-the-scenes stories like the Breakfast Club interview that never aired. Jay reveals the pressure comics face to always be funny, how trauma shows up on stage, and why he loves when comedians “act up a little” in interviews instead of playing it safe.
The episode gets even wilder when the group dives into dating culture, straight men “testing boundaries,” Grindr chaos, dick-pic economics, being catfished, OnlyFans, and the reality of queer men navigating hookup culture versus long-term partnership. Jay also talks about changing his voice around straight men, working at Abercrombie, coming out to his mom while watching Will & Grace and What Not to Wear, and why she always secretly knew.
Jay shows love to the people who have lifted him up — Wanda Sykes, Bob the Drag Queen, Taylor Tomlinson, and even the cast of Abbott Elementary, especially Janelle James. He reflects on comedy’s evolution, how Black queer voices are reshaping the landscape, and why it’s crucial for younger comics to be given the spotlight. Finally, he breaks down how his Hulu special came to be, the risks he took to make it happen, and what’s next for him.
Plus, Akeem Woods shares his viral Thanksgiving adventure — going to random followers’ homes for dinner — and the chaotic, heartwarming stories that followed.
This episode is packed with jokes, honesty, queer insight, southern charm, and nonstop energy from two of the funniest voices in comedy today.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Guys, what's up, Angel, I'm G G maguire, JORDI was
Jay Jordens. Listen, you guys just walked in on our
conversation about press, about press, not the kind of people
aren't getting crabs anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
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not trendy anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So skims underwear.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, okay, did you see that she had different textures.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
To you had one aw whatever you want to be
that day.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You have a blonde joint, but not be blonde.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
So the rugs don't match the curtains.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We have a literal ginger snack.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Snap.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yeah, I think I want to buy that one.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Redhead.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I don't jumped y'all right into this, but Jay Jorden
has a special and Hulu right now your dave you.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yes, yes, that means a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
All of the stand up, the writing, everything is panel.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I'm excited. It was really cool.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I got to do it in New Orleans at the
Joy Theater, historic theater on Canal Street.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean, I saw some people from high school that
came out to the show, so I was very So
why did.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You pick New Orleans? Because I know, a lot of
times you're trying to figure out, like where are we
going to film the special? You're from Mississippi, You're based
in New York.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So what happened is Comedy Dynamics, the production company. They
chose New Orleans because they were filming a couple of
specials there, and New Orleans was perfect for me. It
kind of was a perfect fit because I'm from the South.
I mean, New Orleans is the gayest, blackest city in
the South, next to Atlanta. I said, sometimes I think
Atlanta is new gay. New Orleans is okay.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
New Orleans realized that, Yeah, I love New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
We love to eat there.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I can't, I cannot. I can't make this up. The
day after I recorded my special, I went to a
gay bar. It was packed, and then I was like,
is this like this all the time? I walked to
one door they were having an underwear party in the back.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
True, it's just like I new New Orleans is a
fun play. They get down and the way they bounce.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
I've never been because there's no comedy club out there,
so there's not a club.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
There's one new club sports drink. It's like a smaller ya,
but they closed. They did close a lot of the
comedy clubs New Orleans. But that's because music is new
primary like entertainment at night.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But they do have a lot of venues where you
can do stuff. You could do a comedy show, film.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
But here's the thing with New Orleans. It's easier to
listen to jazz drunk then go to comedy drunks. So
people in New Orleans they drink all day. If they
go to comedy, they sometimes they go shut up. If
they go to jazz.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It just can kind of you know what, when I
go to New Orleans, I remember there's a couple of
times that I would just walk up and down and
just go into random venues where people are. There's jazz,
there's dancing.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You get to see white people dance like they are
finally free. It is a lot white people dance in
New Orleans in a way that no other white people dance,
just because they are not drunk.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
They just get to walk around with like period.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, and it's everywhere like the dakeries. It's all day,
all night, have.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Drinks that are like this.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know what reminds me of you remember during the
pandemic when for a little bit New York said, okay,
you can drink the street.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It's like that all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
This was great when I tell you something that is
a time. I always have so much fun that we
gotta go.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Me too, I'm ray you. We definitely got to plan
a trip.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And New Orleans is fun because if you grew up
going to New Orleans as a kid, you go, oh,
this is so cool. This is so fun to get
to go to the aquarium. You get when you go
as an adult, you go, oh my god, oh my godress.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
I remember the.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
First time I went to New Orleans. I was with
Jay Electronica and we were walking up and down Bourbonry.
He had us in this club, this strip club called
Barely Legal.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
That's crazy, well that that name is wow.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
A lot of people going in and out of there.
But anyway, we were in there and one of the
women that was working, I guess she was tired. She
took her shoes off. She sat down and was just
having like a great conversation with me about you I'm
tired of doing it.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And then but then the manager came up and was like,
put your shoes back on.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That's all look at them.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Oh no, they're surprisingly more comfortable than you would think
with the pleasers.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, okay, listen is I don't know if you saw
the Magic City docuseries.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
She used to strip back and the.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Executive produced it and one of the producers periods. I know,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's so funny because New Orleans also has this history
with music and like sex work that like New Orleans
was like the dirty city, and like that's another reason
I was happy to do it there, because like sometimes
my comedy gets to be a little dirty.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I was, So, look, you are married, you're talking about
your works in crypto.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, he works for a crypto company and then just
recently got by another company. So it's financial tax that situation.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Okay, so you get to keep the apartment.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, we get to keep the apartment.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I always say crypto, I think I got some.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Nothing at all, but you better hope that it yeah
last because when I tell you, there's been so many
like fraud things crypto.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, so volatile crash do you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So what I did was I got a little just
to monetary.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's how That's how everyone is.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
I think.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Bitcoin because I figured that's the most stable out of
all of them, you know, So I just actually have
been I only got a little just to see like
what it's doing. Yeah, and then certain times you'd be like, damn,
I should have got more. Yeah you didn't go full
but pay me ethereum ethereum. Yeah, ethereum is good too.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Yeah. My money is just money. I'm at the level
of money. All.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I can give you that. That's that's the boomer
sound they buried in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
How did you and your husband get together?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So we got together the kind of old fashioned story.
So I was a theater major in college and he
was an assistant stage manager and he was helping me
run lines, and then we started flirting. Then we started
hanging out, and then we started so he's super sweet.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, okay, that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
We liked to first.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He liked me first because I was like, not focused
on trying I was not trying to date anyone seriously,
because I was about to leave that program because I
was about to graduate and go to a different school.
But he actually, I mean he made me way more
committed to theater that year because I was like, oh,
I probably need to be good I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Dating somebody here, yeah, because if not, that's like, yeah,
it was my senior year too. Now listen, earlier before
this show started, we were talking about Aquem and his abstinence.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yes, yes, yeah, he said earlier day he said he
right now, it's going on two hours.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
So proud of because he was stuck in traffic because he's.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I've had on the train Wednesday last weekday.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah, now you're fucking someone tomorrow morning. But that's not
because he just messages me he's coming over tomorrow before.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, real appointment, real, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I'm him, but it's yeah, he's coming over tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Like you said previously that maybe well never mind, no,
no saying what maybe you're like would think about being
a batom.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
No, I'm versatile, yeah, I'm a full time home.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Was by his ears right now?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, are you that flexible?
Speaker 6 (07:51):
No? No, God, maybe when I was in my twenties.
Do not gazed all this, it's like the Kim is
not doing that. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to get
false pretenches to the games. Who walked there? Now?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like I watched your stand up. Yes, man, you've also
said you're a bisexual. Yeah, Okay, so you also but
you're married to a man, but sometimes you like women too.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Does he is he also bisexual?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, but I think in being married to someone who
identifies as bye, he does really kind of go oh,
I understand. There's so much more room and so much
more kind of gray area to sexuality. So there have
been conversations we've had about like, Okay, like if we
were to have like a threesome with a woman and
he he wouldn't necessarily be like, oh no, I'm disgusted.
(08:44):
But there are so many conversations that we've had about
like honesty and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He could be a coup.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, that's how you actually watch a special.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Special And you're right, there's all different kinds of things
that people can be doing. Do you feel like people
that are open to having these conversations now?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, I feel like more people are having these conversations now,
especially when it comes to like gay guys who they like.
If you're not straight enough, they instantly put you in
the gay pile, and so then you.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Have to be like, well no, every now and then
like I so it was right, you're rude.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
I want to let you know. I'm very rude.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, game is mad and call gens.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But I think that we're having it.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Really. I think we're having a bit of an uptick
on queer men and gay men who are like, oh,
you know, I was told I was gay so early,
and then I said, oh, I am gay, and then
they every now and they get to double back and
be like, oh, let me go see, let me at
least go try, let me at least go see, let
me see if I'm actually attracted to.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But you're married, so you're allowed to about.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, I'm a respect my husband.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
What I will say is that I am an adult
and he's an adult, and we live in New York City,
and New York City has so many amazing restaurants.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So many amazing restaurants to eat anything.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Like the pizza.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, did you come in here to these as?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
No decide to even get married if you are so.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
We decided to get married because our commitment to each
other was one that we wanted to showcase for our
family and our friends. We've been together for so long.
We moved to New York City twenty fifteen, and basically
our thinking was that if we moved New York City
together get an apartment together. Neither one of us if
we break up, haven't forbid could blame the other person saying.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You may move this small ass town.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And so we would be if we broke up. We
just queer people in New York and we act like
a king and we go crazy. So I mean, it
was kind of the best of both worlds. And then
you know, in together and continue to love each other,
and then the careers went the way he wanted them to.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And the.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Craziest exactly, the funniest thing is that, like until I
got I wrote for John Stewart.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
That was the year that we got married.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We like kind of knew all the financial stuff would
like work out, and so that's when we were able
to like bring family up here and have a good
venue and kind of have the wedding that we really wanted.
And he had been I mean, he loves flowers, so
we would have this huge floral display. So I think
it was a good celebration of how much we love
each other. And we want to show people who proposed
to who. So he proposed to me, then I proposed
(11:36):
to him, and then he proposed again, and I said, Okay,
we need to.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Actually do this.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
So three rings, so.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
He so we all have So he has a ring,
I have an initial ring, and then he has a
stack like the first ring I gave him. He stacked
with the wedding ring, and then I stacked these two.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So wait, why did y'all have to keep on proposing?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You know those couples that go, oh, we engaged, and
go yeah, but why are we getting when we sitting
out the invitations?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
We went finally, Yeah, I can't wait till you find
your person.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Yeah, I can't wait to be.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
All listen, it could be the fella tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
A relationship.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well, I mean he's been in a relationships, he's just
been in between the two men.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I came out late us, but it's not that late.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I mean pretty late.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, but how old are you? Now?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
That's not the point. That's not the boy, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Though, Yeah, he's millennially.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You know those kids, you know, those kids that never
get to have any sort of like refined sugar, and
they finally go over to their friend's house and they
get to have fruit snacks and go crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So that's what's going on.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
He is the fruit. Where did you come? Hold? Were you?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I came out when I was twenty, I called up
my mom eye like hooked up with this guy, and
I like was just like dealing with all this stuff
and like that was kind of like everyone in the
theater department was okay with it, but like I never
said it to anyone. So I finally I called up
my mom. It's in the special at the end. I
called her up and told her, and she sort of
knew because there would be There was two summers. I
(13:12):
specifically remember every morning we'd watch Will and Grace What
Not to Wear, and then I go to work and I'd.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Be like, she has to know, definitely.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Met and we watched that time at five o'clock. But no,
I'd literally be sitting in the living room, like you
need to come here and watch our shows. And so
then I would go to work at Abercrombie and then.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
You go.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And so then eventually came out and she my mom
had friends who, like, looking back on it, they were gay,
but she just probably didn't know how to explain it
to a bunch of her kids in Mississippi, so she
didn't necessarily know how to articulate that. But looking back,
and I was like, oh, that was my mom's gay friend.
Oh that was another so like she was always very supportive,
very kind. It was really funny that she was like
(14:04):
I think she was scared that I didn't trust her,
Like that was a moment of vulnerability with our relationship.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
And I came, I know, your family was like we know, yeah, yeah,
but I didn't come to talk to twenty five. Yeah
they do, but yeah my mom definite. I do a
joke about definitely twenty five. It is like hardie, Yeah,
I mean it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Was hard It was nineteen funny to me when I
came is around like straight men, yeah, which I know
it's to be the minority. Yeah, but he puts on
his like straight voice.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, it is so funny.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I don't think I do that that you do. Yeah,
maybe I do.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Still, you just get you just get a little bit
more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And I know why.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
It's because like if you.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Are if you are like the one queer man around
straight dudes, they will test how much stuff they can.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Get away with.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So you have like bow up a little bit, yeah,
because because they'll start to be like, oh, you know, sissy,
you'll be like watching nigga.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Hold on, I said, hold on, we both wear makeup.
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You see where he's comfortable, Like when we're at work
and Dan and Nick, he's like things boot.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Like, yeah, yeah, he's one of these.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I have a gay friend that I love dearly that
does my hair makeup and we spend a lot of
time together, and I see him in that same way
he does a code switched.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Straight to Well, what happens is you really want to
make sure that these are and so many of them are,
and they're streaming gotten so progressive and they're doing better.
I mean if if they prove themselves to be someone,
you can be kind of a bit more of yourself
around and you feel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
The same way with like, oh no, there's certain white.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
People were like once what once they let you know
that they're cool, You're like, okay, all right, but I
was kind of butted up a little bit around you,
But now we can.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Be not that could be myself.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The literally the risk goes from this to this around
those men.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And I think you said that you talked about straight
white men and yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
They're endangered.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
There, Paul Bear, they're going away.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Are slightly less dangerous.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I think that like in comedy, comedy right now is
having this comedy boom. But so many people think about
the comedy boom is from a straight white male perspective.
So you say comedy just so no, arenas you go
you mean bird like, it's like it's you're talking about
a very specific subset of comedy fan and comedians. So
like those people dominate the narrative when it comes to comedy,
(16:43):
and so like whenever I get to have something, whenever
you get to have something, it is a it is
it's still like to be celebrated because like, we don't
get these chances a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
We were talking about how many out, how many out?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Once again, how many out gay black men.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Comedy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's like, hey, yeah, it's not a lot. It's us
too out of English Perkins.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It was Richard Pryor.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah about.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
About that women.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
No, no, he had to joke about live and smoking.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
He has the joke.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Boy says, fellas you ever had a fact suck you dick? Yeah,
and he goes, I ain't gonna tell nobody, and you go,
I know he's gonna tell everybody.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Yeah, he looked up Malon Brando, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, that's that's the rumor that Quincy Jones said, Quincy
Jones was.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Getting old enough to be like, yeah, the matter of
gay queens that just go to the grave rest recipes.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, please.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
But I mean, like everyone knew Paul Mooney was gay,
but he never came out.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But how did everybody know that, nigga?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But there was a roadster Richard Pryor where at one
point Richard Prior did call uh Paul Mooney like miss
thang and auntie girl like, So like, there are these
kind of signifiers and winks and nods in the black
community that that straight black people. Maybe they don't want
to put all of your business out there, but they
just know between you and me, I know exactly we
see each other. It's gonna be it's gonna be harder
(18:26):
for some people to understand that because they think it's
silencing queer people. But at the time, I think a
lot of people didn't have the urbis would have had.
The career was opening again, and Paul's sass was so
imbued into his character and his stand up that if
he would have tried to be straight, it wouldn't have
worked at all. So him being sass, he come out
wearing a caff hand and his guard and all, he
(18:49):
was wearing a movie.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
He was just like a big mom. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
See him at Caroline's Wins and he walked, bet he walked.
Tell you about half the comedy club left.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
But I love that for him, and that he would
walk crowds intentionally.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah, I love that for him.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Jesus Christ and me means his auntie. Yeah, that's the
other thing.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
That's how.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That's how every every queer black person who saw Paul Mooney,
they saw a bit of themselves.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
They're like, oh, he's like a viper.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Just you know.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
That is one interview we had when I was on
the Breakfast Club that we never aired, really and I'm
trying to it was, yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
I didn't know y'all interviewed Paul is crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
He said, it was a long time ago. I'm trying
to remember because I had already seen him performed, but
I can't remember what it was for. But he definitely
came on and he wasn't like the most blessing, But
I love that.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I think that, like some people's idea of calm now
is like this very new version of comedy where everyone's
media trained and everyone's so pleasant to be around, and
everyone knows what words to say, words not to say.
Sometimes comics used to give interviews that were crazy, and
I don't I don't hate that. Like every now and
then when I do any sort of interview situation, I
(20:17):
do try to like I try, I try to act
up a little bit, because if not, then is boring.
Have you and you and you've interviewed so many you've
had conversations with people. You go, oh, I'm glad your
projects out, but baby, this was boring. Yeah, you know,
and ask good questions.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Sometimes people do. I remember I interviewed this one comedian
and the problem sometimes for comedians is he was being
completely serious, but people thought it wasn't real. And I'll
never forget this. He was talking about his gym teacher
and molested him.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
God, and so don't you laugh.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So everybody's laughing trying to dodgeballs and dodgeball.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So we're like thinking, there's a punchline coming, and he
was was he was you was serious? You thought you
was g yeah, and we're like, you know, where's the
And so I think sometimes because a lot of comedians
do have a lot of like trauma, that's why they
hit the stage just kind of therapeutic, you know, for
that reason. And I've noticed that, like why you.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Said it that way.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's therapeutic, it's not therapy, because sometimes when a comic
thinks it is therapy, what they're doing is like holding
audience captive and just kind of like basically kind of
doing what you said he did when like there are
moments where you go, Okay, I can say this, but
it's not funny yet, so let me find the funny
part and high like that and then maybe I can
get real and then go back to funny.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, Marlon Wayns is like you can find funny in
any every day.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Oh my god, he was here. We left the entire.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, because he was like his family was at a funeral.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I mean, Marlin Wayne is a perfect example. I think
someone can like continue to grow. Like if you would
have told me that Marlon Wayne was going to be
this trans youth advocate and like be such a champion
for queer people would have said, Marlin for real, and
look at Marlon ways I love that and it breaks
my heart and people think that black people and specifically
black comics can't do that. So I love Marlon waye's
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for what he's doing now.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, no, I agree, And I watched him and and
his growth just even as an actor. I'm him. I
watch that movie and I think he did such an
excellent job.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
He was it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
But he remember he wasn't working for a dream too.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yes, always he's always been the Wayne's brother where I'm like,
if they get if he gets the right role, there's
gonna be like, you know, award buzz around him, just
because he loves acting. He fully commits the things where
it be comedy or drama, and like most importantly, he's
fine every time.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well because you want that sexual person to win the award.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Sean, him and Sean they were goofy like all the time,
Sean like everywhere.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
So they were goofy, but like if you look back
on it, like they were models, they were so.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
But you know what else about Marlon, he's really nice.
He's like a nice person.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
He seems nice.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I've never met him, but he seems like unless you're
DJ blad, Yeah, I can't. I get mixed it every
now and then, No, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I wanted to interview him, and Marlon was like forty
thousand dollars oh, and Blad was like no, but you know, Marlin,
I think he that's great.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Like, I think so too, because that is consistently uh,
trying to be part of the culture.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, this is blade if the cookouts over there, Bladder
is a defense like that girl.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Yeah, and we always and always play, and we need
to stop making him a play gray dogs.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
They go, they passed into.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Him over the years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
There you go, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
I love talking.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Oh my god, this ain't nothing bad about him.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know, comedy beef is real too, though. Listen, I
don't heard some stars, And I.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Think part of it is because like comedy is close
enough to wrap that, like you have to have a confidence,
you have to have a bravado, you have to have
a swagger, and you also have to think I'm pretty
damn good, if not the best. So then someone when
someone else says I'm the best, you get to be like, no,
I'm the best.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And so then they they you know, spat it out.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And then it's also like an ego thing of like
who's opening for, who's going on?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
First?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Second thing? And you get like telling and.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Who's selling more's popping more?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Who got paid more?
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Yeah? Who's a better rap and they always better put
black people against each other too, and especially in any
type of beef but comedy wrap hip hop.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Do you feel like people have helped you along your.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, A lot of Wanda Sides has always been there
for me. Wanda Sis like I met her in twenty
nineteen in Montreal and she's she like put me in
the credits of a Netflix thing. I got to work
with her in Philadelphia. She's always been super con She
like always reaches out and checked stuff on me. So
uh wan, this has been super helpful. Bob the Drag
Queen was super helpful to me early in my career.
(25:05):
Taylor Tomlinson took me and let me open for her.
So people have always been very helpful, even like even
in comedy right now, there's so many people who if like,
if a special is coming out, if they just share it,
then you, hey, this is really fun. A lot that
does a lot because if they have a million followers
and like at least like one hundred thousand people start
on their story.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And then plus if you get booked on Abbot Elementary.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I would love that. That is so funny.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I saw it's so funny. I saw Janelle twice. I
saw her at the beginning of Abbot, like when everything
was starting to pop off and like people were like
and then the second time I saw her, she was
like getting stopped all the time, famous, like she couldn't
go out in public.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Famous.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now she does an amazing I love it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
She is so funny and she's so good on it.
And that character, that character is like it was you know,
it was written to be like a pretty important character,
but it's maybe the third most important character plot points sometimes,
but like every episode there's a moment where you go principle, she.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Doesn't want to emmy and I'm very mad.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Sometimes, you know, Awards.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
It's one of those things where like it's you know,
it's the push. It's also like if they think, like
you deserve it now, also who you're up against, and
they were up against hacks, they were up against a juggernaut.
When it came to like, uh, series lead and when
it came to like funny, women say you.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Never watched it. I don't think I did either, you.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Know, really, but I think you would like it.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
I probably would like it, but it's just so white
that I haven't watched it.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I think I think you were like it.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Plus you also like white guys.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
I don't exclusively like white guys.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Like every time you show me a picture of somebody,
it's like somebody not last.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Every time he showed me, he would show me some folks.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Tomorrow morning guy.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah, listen, listen, My body is for whoever wants. He said.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
The man, have you ever got capfished?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And do you still go through? How did you get
out of that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I well, you don't know what whatever. Gay guys have
to deal with that scenario because it does happen a lot.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
This is what they used to do.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They go, it's stomach, Yes, that's it.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
I was, oh no, that wasn't me, and I just
closed the door. I was like, that wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Well no, because if you say, if you say your stomach,
it really kind of makes gay sex.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Impossible because you're like, I don't need you.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yeah. I literally had someone. I'm like, oh no, no, no, no,
I was. I was God was doing to days and
someone in albuty or whatever, and I was told, ad
you know Artie for QUI I told already the story.
He's like, that's rude. I'm like, what do you do
he's like, oh the fun. I'm like, well, that's the
difference between me.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
And you.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
That I came to throw them out like.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
I'm like, no, he didn't look like there making the picture.
I'm not liar.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Listen, guy, I think will still do it. You know what,
I will let you suck their dick just because they
feel like.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I have to ask you, guys, tell the marketplace. You
have to look at the economy, the economics of this.
There's there will always be more gay man sometimes straight
man go yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Putting dick is the easiest thing to get everyone here.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes, Exactually, dick is so easy to get people show
it unwanted on the subway.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
Yeah, anyone here and that straight man included. Anyone here
can show you wanted in your deal exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Have you ever seen a dick in your DM and
been like, actually.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't really get yeah, but we can change that,
und what.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
But I'm more the happy send the big picture my way,
please and thank.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
You's not like pleasing to look at me like that.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Solicit.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
It was all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
We had an email.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The email, yeah, the attachment.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It was pretty dick swag and turning pretty dick.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Yeah, okay, Well for me, those emails, we got it,
we got.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Don't stop it, you dig big dragon, we got to revisit.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No, dang you's you did it, your dick picked circulates
it did, but it hasn't got back to me yet.
I know somebody accidentally sent him back his dig pics.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Someone did on Grinding.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Oh someone sent you you yeah, yeah, on every app.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, because it's floating around too much. That means I
have erstand.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
I don't her. Yeah, I don't know what that met.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
What happens.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
What happens though, is that like so many people, they
got comfortable sending everything out because like now it's not
necessarily like a career ending situation, like I think who
like Vanessa Hudgens a couple of people have made it
so that like no matter Jennifer Lawrence, like there's been
enough leaks that like if someone who is in the
industry or something like oh there Dick League, you'd be like, well, yeah,
(30:24):
I mean they was out here and put.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Out an attractive picture. So if it like circulations like
oh that's a king.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
And also, no one's gonna be surprised on Grinder. A
team's on Grinder. That's someone like his.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Act now back when it was polaroids, you have to work.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Would you take your grinder profile down?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
You think?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Have you ever gotten that serious with somebody?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
What?
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
That's that's the that's the serious thing for the gays
when they get rid of the grinder.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yeah. I just needed it for like a month, and
I was like, just like I'm focusing on not on
like projects or whatever. But it's.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Because the dope, the dopamine a candy crush for some people.
It's not even like the sexual component of it's just
like validation from strangers.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Validation from strangers.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I'm kind of bored. I want to and like it's
also like a little bit of like a map of
like in New York. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
If you weren't in New York, it wouldn't even be
as fun New York.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, No, okay, because you seem to know a lot of.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
You would at one point.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
You've been married for you've been in a relationship for
so long.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, we take out I told you, he was like,
and then you.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Know, when you set up the profile, I'm like, yeah,
sometimes you.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Turn it on, like if you go to a different city,
you turn it on just because you're like popular, Like,
none of these games me, so you turn it on
just to see what the what the area is like,
and it's given.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It's giving gay men kind of what they wanted in
high school and college.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
If they didn't get to have those actual.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Block that's excuse didn't come out to you with twenty five.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
I didn't have the college experience to go to college,
but like I didn't.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I was on his live one day he walked out
of the room. I think you went to get food,
and you're like, oh, just stay on my line. Oh yeah, yeah,
all these grinder things kept popping up. I was like,
how actively he opened any of these?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Didn't That's why I have a separate phone with a fault,
you know that.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Do you have videos too like that?
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Oh yeah, like three yeah, okay, but only me fucking
then my mom. I don't have video of me game.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But like I'm glad you.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm glad, Like we can talk about this pretty candidly,
but like right now, there's also like a bit of
a shift where like so many people who have like
normal nine to fives also like because of the pandemic
and because of how hard things are economically, people did
start dipping their toe into like only fans. So like
there are some people who like have you know, just
you know what people would consider regular boring jobs, and
(33:19):
they also have.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Another they also.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Is a good point.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And then they also have like this online sex work
that isn't to me. I think we're getting a point
where so many people be like, well.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, I'm okay, is it sex work?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah? Sex work?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I think it's sex work because like they're interfacing with
other people. It's also sex work because the material is
of a sexual nature, even if it's just showing your
button the thong and showing a bulging some underwear.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Is that cheating if like, say you're dating somebody and
they're getting videos solictening videos on OnlyFans.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
No, no, no, no, that's called them paying.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah there, okay, yeah, I agree. If we're dating and
you have two jobs. On those jobs, it's lucrative only
fans put that card down.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Oh my god, were going.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
To the lounge now, Jay, how did this who lose
special happen? I want to know because I know it's
not easy to get an hour special.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So I've been working. I'd work with comedy Dynamics in
twenty nineteen. They helped record my album, and going into
twenty twenty five, I didn't know if I was going
to have a special. I thought, oh, I'm gonna have
to figure something out by the middle of the year.
And they reached out to me because they were shooting
four of them and they said, we really like working
with Jay. We know Jay's looking for a special. We
can we can shoot it and we can help produce it.
And I also got to be ep and then we
(34:41):
can try to sell it, and like the risk you
take is like they own it, but then it might
not sell, so then we kind of have to figure
out how we're going to distribute it. But then I
was like, I'm okay with this risk. I have a
new hour that I'm touring currently. I had like an
hour and thirty at the time, so I chopped up
the hour and I said, you know what, I have
faith in me.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
My team was like, Jay, just do it.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
You right enough, you'll write something. You write a new
hour before the end of the year. And so I
kind of went out on this limb and it worked out.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, I'm so happy you did it.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, it's a lot I was, but he was like, oh,
we got to watch you know my guy Jay, and
let's see if he can come on the show. And
I was like, I would love that.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yay, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
That means it worth Also, it's so to me, it's
so important that we still have people making new stuff.
And this is in shade to anyone who's older and
more establishing the industry. But it gets to a point
where like if every if you so, oh, who's your
favorite new up and coming comic and all of them
are fifty something.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Like, you have to make it. No, it's true, though,
you have to make room for like thirty year olds
and not up and coming.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
They might be.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
It might be. So I think when it comes to
comedy right now, we're in a really cool place.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I think.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
I mean, I talk a lot of shit as.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Far as like sometimes I think that we're in a
really weird place with some stuff, but I think we're
in a really good place. Nothing is going to continue
and for black comedy specifically to continue to thrive and
kind of be the benchmark because black people people made
stand up comedy popular in America. Black people continue to
set the trends when it comes for standing up comedy.
I think you have to also embrace queer black people.
You have to also embrace new, fun black voices when
(36:10):
it comes to stand up.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
You know, I love it because you were in there
and and doing your stamp, and I know I've seen
you live and then I've watched your special. But even
talking about like people in the audience and you know
who laughs and who doesn't laugh at certain jokes best
that's funny.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You like, you can see when people love a joke,
and you can also hear sometimes I had this at
the first recording. There was a woman in the back.
You can hear it on some of the things because
it split over two shows.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Her laugh was this was her laugh.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
You can't like. You can't like because you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
She's having a good time, but you, oh, my.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Time. But that was the first show.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
She was drunk and she has she had a great show,
great time, She had great time, just hollering.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, congratulations, I know you got to go. You're going
to comedy seller. Yes I am, but I appreciate you
for stopping.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
It really means a word of me it's one of
Jordan and you know what it's called Yes ma'am. Yes,
exactly three reasons.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
So I say yes ma'am to my mom and one
of the jokes after I come out. And then I
also wanted to be a play on like how southern
but also how queer I am, So yes ma'am is
very respectful, Yes ma'am is also yes ma'am.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And then also have to play on yes ma'am, so
it's yes ma'am.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So it's I mean, I think I had a couple
of things I really wanted to achieve in the special,
and I'm very happy.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
You know you should be. Thank you. So congratulations, you
got to come back.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I want I want to come back. I mean, thank
you for having me. Also have to check up on
this one every now and then.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm always checking up.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Not in the midst I wouldn't be offended if somebody
was like, I'm gonna come over and have sex.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
With you in the morning, you'd be offended because.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
In the morning, the night before, it's all about your schedule.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
In Jersey, so you have to have to come in
and get fucking then go to work.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I'm not made at morning sets.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Well again, they get a Jay Jorden who just joined us.
Now I came. I wanted to got to you about
your holiday because you went and went to random people's houses.
He posted on social media, So tell us about this
whole experience.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
So I don't like the holidays typically just because my
family's dead and all that other drama. So typically that's
been holidays alone in bed watching Golden Girls being sad.
And I was like, and I go viral on threads
a lot. So I posted something on threads basically making
a joke but also saying I don't have anythings giving plans.
I want a black family. I want to to yeah,
I want to make offer for having a third husband.
(38:51):
I just a joke. A day I went, I took
a nap, I woke up and had like five thousand likes, uh,
three hundred thousand views. I had ninety eight d ms.
So people invited me to the houses people to go to. Well,
I well, I was gonna pick randomly, but my one
of my best friends, Mia Jackson, she was like, don't.
(39:12):
She's like you can't just go to random Niga's house.
You's gonna get taken. But you are already going to
I mean exactly. So I made sure. So I clipped
on people that had that were followed by people that
you know. Yeah, that mutual follow was not I still
don't know them, but like someone that I know was
following them. Okay, So I'm like, okay, cool. So I
went to the first lady I went to. Her name
(39:33):
is Star. She's been following me for a long time.
And what she told me and the mutual following is
I think Sam J because I think she's She's like,
good w w, she's a she's a designer. But so
she did something with sam J or whatever, and I'm like, okay,
that's mutual. And and she was very sweet in the mess.
She's like, I've been following me for years, You're so funny.
I'd love to have you. And I'm like, okay, cool.
So she DM me and I picked her, and then
(39:55):
I just picked another person who actually knew you. Random
They said that they knew you. You guys went on
some some island excursion. I'm like, that sounds like Angela.
I always period used to be never and I'm like, okay, cool,
So I'm gona go. And I went to the first
one and they was so sweet. The food was amazing. Yeah,
(40:19):
the food was in Brooklyn. It was the food was amazing.
It was a black family and we was we was
talking ship and keiki and like we've known each other.
Like they was telling me. They were telling me how
someone was a rolling stone. I'm like, oh, tell me
more about your uncle, Like.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Was it any drama A little.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Bit, not like drama, like drama, but like I was
getting like the tea on, like the little family thing. Yeah,
it was cute. And then we took a picture and
then I posted on Instagram and they went crazy viral
over there. I got like almost a thousand new I
got twenty thousand followers now.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And then you went to a second family.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
And then I went to a second and they was wild.
I didn't post any videos of that because they were
crazy close friends. I did. I got late, yeah, and
everyone was already drinking party and I'm like, okay, so
we were just y'all know, I don't drink, so we
were just there and hanging out. And they were also
very sweet. I ate some of the food, but I
was already, girl, I was full, even picked too, but
I was full. But the dessert day was fire. She
(41:13):
had this pumpkin thing that she made. I don't know
what it was. It was like pumpkin upside down to.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
This every year. Now it's my birthday, come to my house.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Okay, but yeah, it was fun. I had nothing else
to do.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
And then he came over on Sunday and oh yes.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
And then I always he left over at Angela's house.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
They did Thanksgiving on Saturday, right, so the next day
the next day, I tried to get him to come
on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
But he was you know, I was tired already.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
I think I had a that night too.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Yeah, it was fun. It was really fun. I was
happy to do it. And they were very sweet and
they're like, we're gonna come to see you. So the
next time I have a show in the city, they're
gonna come out.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
What did you do with somebody try to take you?
Speaker 6 (41:56):
I guess I'll just get taken all right. I'm not
really a fighter.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
This dummy.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Take it.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
But there was so many people invited me, like so
many white people, like I'm not black, but yeah, you
have to try.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Would have been like that one story next year just
to see.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
But there was sweet people in Canada. Was like, come
to Canada.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
That's something I do. Though. I'm very open my home.
I'm very much a caregiver and I open my home
to friends that I know don't have family and they're
going to be alone. So at my Thanksgiving this year,
I actually had two friends that were not as close
to me or black family, but that came to spend
Thanksgiving with me and my family because they didn't have
(42:44):
anything else.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
I think that's super important to do, especially especially because
sometimes not as much anymore, but back in the day,
a lot of times, especially black people. Unfortunately gay black
kids didn't have like the support around family because like
they came out in the family just all and stuff
like that. So it's really important. I think a lot
of people used to do it a lot back then.
They still do it now for them to have that
open post. She was like, hey, you can come here
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for me.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Living in Atlanta, we have so many transplants. I was
once a transplant. Yeah, so my first year in Atlanta,
I knew nobody besides the cousin that I was staying with,
So I didn't have anywhere to go on Thanksgiving and
one of my stripper sisters, she doesn't invited me to
her house. She's like, what you're doing things giving? Kind
of my house. I'm cooking, And then I just kind
of paid that forward.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
Yeah. I think I just saw miss pat on an
interview talking about it that she does the same thing
in Atlanta. She invites a bunch of Yeah, so it
was great. It was a really fun experience.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Okay, I cannot wait to see what you do for Christmas.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
I don't know either. Me and Jeordie. We gotta do
light stuff though, because we lost.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
We're going to go to Brooklyn Botannic Cook Guidens to see.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
The Yeah, I want to care.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
When is it?
Speaker 1 (43:50):
It's now? Okay, it's Happeningmber.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Sometimes the next few weeks December, I supposed to do
like date type things with me money and I know,
and don't got to put out after well, listen, I Cam,
thank you so much for coming through, and thank you
for introducing us to Jay. I really love his energy
so much fun.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Yeah, I love he's very fun. Make sure you gotta
check out his special Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Remember that ma'am situation with Kwondo Ronald. I was like,
this is ma'am. He calls me ma'am one more time.
But yeah, so lift service. Check that out on who
check out my guy? I came when he's coming to
a city near you, follow.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
Him on Instagram and threads up the grinder. I don't
have to pick on that will be up to day
very soon hopefully.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Service I know it period.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Bye
Guys, what's up, Angel, I'm G G maguire, JORDI was
Jay Jordens. Listen, you guys just walked in on our
conversation about press, about press, not the kind of people
aren't getting crabs anymore.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Because people don't have as much pupa care like. It's
not trendy anymore.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So skims underwear.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah, okay, did you see that she had different textures.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
To you had one aw whatever you want to be
that day.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
You have a blonde joint, but not be blonde.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
So the rugs don't match the curtains.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
We have a literal ginger snack.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Snap.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Yeah, I think I want to buy that one.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Redhead.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I don't jumped y'all right into this, but Jay Jorden
has a special and Hulu right now your dave you.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yes, yes, that means a lot.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
All of the stand up, the writing, everything is panel.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I'm excited. It was really cool.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I got to do it in New Orleans at the
Joy Theater, historic theater on Canal Street.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean, I saw some people from high school that
came out to the show, so I was very So
why did.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You pick New Orleans? Because I know, a lot of
times you're trying to figure out, like where are we
going to film the special? You're from Mississippi, You're based
in New York.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
So what happened is Comedy Dynamics, the production company. They
chose New Orleans because they were filming a couple of
specials there, and New Orleans was perfect for me. It
kind of was a perfect fit because I'm from the South.
I mean, New Orleans is the gayest, blackest city in
the South, next to Atlanta. I said, sometimes I think
Atlanta is new gay. New Orleans is okay.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
New Orleans realized that, Yeah, I love New Orleans.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
We love to eat there.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I can't, I cannot. I can't make this up. The
day after I recorded my special, I went to a
gay bar. It was packed, and then I was like,
is this like this all the time? I walked to
one door they were having an underwear party in the back.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
True, it's just like I new New Orleans is a
fun play. They get down and the way they bounce.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
I've never been because there's no comedy club out there,
so there's not a club.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
There's one new club sports drink. It's like a smaller ya,
but they closed. They did close a lot of the
comedy clubs New Orleans. But that's because music is new
primary like entertainment at night.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
But they do have a lot of venues where you
can do stuff. You could do a comedy show, film.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
But here's the thing with New Orleans. It's easier to
listen to jazz drunk then go to comedy drunks. So
people in New Orleans they drink all day. If they
go to comedy, they sometimes they go shut up. If
they go to jazz.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It just can kind of you know what, when I
go to New Orleans, I remember there's a couple of
times that I would just walk up and down and
just go into random venues where people are. There's jazz,
there's dancing.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You get to see white people dance like they are
finally free. It is a lot white people dance in
New Orleans in a way that no other white people dance,
just because they are not drunk.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
They just get to walk around with like period.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, and it's everywhere like the dakeries. It's all day,
all night, have.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Drinks that are like this.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You know what reminds me of you remember during the
pandemic when for a little bit New York said, okay,
you can drink the street.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
It's like that all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
This was great when I tell you something that is
a time. I always have so much fun that we
gotta go.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Me too, I'm ray you. We definitely got to plan
a trip.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And New Orleans is fun because if you grew up
going to New Orleans as a kid, you go, oh,
this is so cool. This is so fun to get
to go to the aquarium. You get when you go
as an adult, you go, oh my god, oh my godress.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
I remember the.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
First time I went to New Orleans. I was with
Jay Electronica and we were walking up and down Bourbonry.
He had us in this club, this strip club called
Barely Legal.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
That's crazy, well that that name is wow.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
A lot of people going in and out of there.
But anyway, we were in there and one of the
women that was working, I guess she was tired. She
took her shoes off. She sat down and was just
having like a great conversation with me about you I'm
tired of doing it.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And then but then the manager came up and was like,
put your shoes back on.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
That's all look at them.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Oh no, they're surprisingly more comfortable than you would think
with the pleasers.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Okay, okay, listen is I don't know if you saw
the Magic City docuseries.
Speaker 6 (04:33):
She used to strip back and the.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Executive produced it and one of the producers periods. I know,
that's right.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's so funny because New Orleans also has this history
with music and like sex work that like New Orleans
was like the dirty city, and like that's another reason
I was happy to do it there, because like sometimes
my comedy gets to be a little dirty.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I was, So, look, you are married, you're talking about
your works in crypto.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, he works for a crypto company and then just
recently got by another company. So it's financial tax that situation.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Okay, so you get to keep the apartment.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, we get to keep the apartment.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
I always say crypto, I think I got some.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
I know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Nothing at all, but you better hope that it yeah
last because when I tell you, there's been so many
like fraud things crypto.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, so volatile crash do you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
So what I did was I got a little just
to monetary.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
That's how That's how everyone is.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
I think.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Bitcoin because I figured that's the most stable out of
all of them, you know, So I just actually have
been I only got a little just to see like
what it's doing. Yeah, and then certain times you'd be like, damn,
I should have got more. Yeah you didn't go full
but pay me ethereum ethereum. Yeah, ethereum is good too.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Yeah. My money is just money. I'm at the level
of money. All.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, I can give you that. That's that's the boomer
sound they buried in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
How did you and your husband get together?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So we got together the kind of old fashioned story.
So I was a theater major in college and he
was an assistant stage manager and he was helping me
run lines, and then we started flirting. Then we started
hanging out, and then we started so he's super sweet.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, okay, that's good.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
We liked to first.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
He liked me first because I was like, not focused
on trying I was not trying to date anyone seriously,
because I was about to leave that program because I
was about to graduate and go to a different school.
But he actually, I mean he made me way more
committed to theater that year because I was like, oh,
I probably need to be good I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Dating somebody here, yeah, because if not, that's like, yeah,
it was my senior year too. Now listen, earlier before
this show started, we were talking about Aquem and his abstinence.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yes, yes, yeah, he said earlier day he said he
right now, it's going on two hours.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
So proud of because he was stuck in traffic because he's.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I've had on the train Wednesday last weekday.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah, now you're fucking someone tomorrow morning. But that's not
because he just messages me he's coming over tomorrow before.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, real appointment, real, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
I'm him, but it's yeah, he's coming over tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Like you said previously that maybe well never mind, no,
no saying what maybe you're like would think about being
a batom.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
No, I'm versatile, yeah, I'm a full time home.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Was by his ears right now?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, are you that flexible?
Speaker 6 (07:51):
No? No, God, maybe when I was in my twenties.
Do not gazed all this, it's like the Kim is
not doing that. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to get
false pretenches to the games. Who walked there? Now?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like I watched your stand up. Yes, man, you've also
said you're a bisexual. Yeah, Okay, so you also but
you're married to a man, but sometimes you like women too.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Does he is he also bisexual?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, but I think in being married to someone who
identifies as bye, he does really kind of go oh,
I understand. There's so much more room and so much
more kind of gray area to sexuality. So there have
been conversations we've had about like, Okay, like if we
were to have like a threesome with a woman and
he he wouldn't necessarily be like, oh no, I'm disgusted.
(08:44):
But there are so many conversations that we've had about
like honesty and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
He could be a coup.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, that's how you actually watch a special.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Special And you're right, there's all different kinds of things
that people can be doing. Do you feel like people
that are open to having these conversations now?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, I feel like more people are having these conversations now,
especially when it comes to like gay guys who they like.
If you're not straight enough, they instantly put you in
the gay pile, and so then you.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Have to be like, well no, every now and then
like I so it was right, you're rude.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
I want to let you know. I'm very rude.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah, game is mad and call gens.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But I think that we're having it.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Really. I think we're having a bit of an uptick
on queer men and gay men who are like, oh,
you know, I was told I was gay so early,
and then I said, oh, I am gay, and then
they every now and they get to double back and
be like, oh, let me go see, let me at
least go try, let me at least go see, let
me see if I'm actually attracted to.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But you're married, so you're allowed to about.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah, I'm a respect my husband.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
What I will say is that I am an adult
and he's an adult, and we live in New York City,
and New York City has so many amazing restaurants.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So many amazing restaurants to eat anything.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Like the pizza.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, did you come in here to these as?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
No decide to even get married if you are so.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
We decided to get married because our commitment to each
other was one that we wanted to showcase for our
family and our friends. We've been together for so long.
We moved to New York City twenty fifteen, and basically
our thinking was that if we moved New York City
together get an apartment together. Neither one of us if
we break up, haven't forbid could blame the other person saying.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You may move this small ass town.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And so we would be if we broke up. We
just queer people in New York and we act like
a king and we go crazy. So I mean, it
was kind of the best of both worlds. And then
you know, in together and continue to love each other,
and then the careers went the way he wanted them to.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
And the.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Craziest exactly, the funniest thing is that, like until I
got I wrote for John Stewart.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
That was the year that we got married.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
We like kind of knew all the financial stuff would
like work out, and so that's when we were able
to like bring family up here and have a good
venue and kind of have the wedding that we really wanted.
And he had been I mean, he loves flowers, so
we would have this huge floral display. So I think
it was a good celebration of how much we love
each other. And we want to show people who proposed
to who. So he proposed to me, then I proposed
(11:36):
to him, and then he proposed again, and I said, Okay,
we need to.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
Actually do this.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
So three rings, so.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
He so we all have So he has a ring,
I have an initial ring, and then he has a
stack like the first ring I gave him. He stacked
with the wedding ring, and then I stacked these two.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So wait, why did y'all have to keep on proposing?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
You know those couples that go, oh, we engaged, and
go yeah, but why are we getting when we sitting
out the invitations?
Speaker 1 (12:01):
We went finally, Yeah, I can't wait till you find
your person.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Yeah, I can't wait to be.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
All listen, it could be the fella tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
A relationship.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Well, I mean he's been in a relationships, he's just
been in between the two men.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I came out late us, but it's not that late.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
I mean pretty late.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah, but how old are you? Now?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
That's not the point. That's not the boy, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Though, Yeah, he's millennially.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
You know those kids, you know, those kids that never
get to have any sort of like refined sugar, and
they finally go over to their friend's house and they
get to have fruit snacks and go crazy.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
So that's what's going on.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
He is the fruit. Where did you come? Hold? Were you?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I came out when I was twenty, I called up
my mom eye like hooked up with this guy, and
I like was just like dealing with all this stuff
and like that was kind of like everyone in the
theater department was okay with it, but like I never
said it to anyone. So I finally I called up
my mom. It's in the special at the end. I
called her up and told her, and she sort of
knew because there would be There was two summers. I
(13:12):
specifically remember every morning we'd watch Will and Grace What
Not to Wear, and then I go to work and I'd.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Be like, she has to know, definitely.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Met and we watched that time at five o'clock. But no,
I'd literally be sitting in the living room, like you
need to come here and watch our shows. And so
then I would go to work at Abercrombie and then.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
You go.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And so then eventually came out and she my mom
had friends who, like, looking back on it, they were gay,
but she just probably didn't know how to explain it
to a bunch of her kids in Mississippi, so she
didn't necessarily know how to articulate that. But looking back,
and I was like, oh, that was my mom's gay friend.
Oh that was another so like she was always very supportive,
very kind. It was really funny that she was like
(14:04):
I think she was scared that I didn't trust her,
Like that was a moment of vulnerability with our relationship.
Speaker 6 (14:11):
And I came, I know, your family was like we know, yeah, yeah,
but I didn't come to talk to twenty five. Yeah
they do, but yeah my mom definite. I do a
joke about definitely twenty five. It is like hardie, Yeah,
I mean it.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Was hard It was nineteen funny to me when I
came is around like straight men, yeah, which I know
it's to be the minority. Yeah, but he puts on
his like straight voice.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Yeah, it is so funny.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
I don't think I do that that you do. Yeah,
maybe I do.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Still, you just get you just get a little bit
more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
And I know why.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
It's because like if you.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Are if you are like the one queer man around
straight dudes, they will test how much stuff they can.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Get away with.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
So you have like bow up a little bit, yeah,
because because they'll start to be like, oh, you know, sissy,
you'll be like watching nigga.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Hold on, I said, hold on, we both wear makeup.
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You see where he's comfortable, Like when we're at work
and Dan and Nick, he's like things boot.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Like, yeah, yeah, he's one of these.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I have a gay friend that I love dearly that
does my hair makeup and we spend a lot of
time together, and I see him in that same way
he does a code switched.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Straight to Well, what happens is you really want to
make sure that these are and so many of them are,
and they're streaming gotten so progressive and they're doing better.
I mean if if they prove themselves to be someone,
you can be kind of a bit more of yourself
around and you feel comfortable.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
The same way with like, oh no, there's certain white.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
People were like once what once they let you know
that they're cool, You're like, okay, all right, but I
was kind of butted up a little bit around you,
But now we can.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Be not that could be myself.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
The literally the risk goes from this to this around
those men.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And I think you said that you talked about straight
white men and yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
They're endangered.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
There, Paul Bear, they're going away.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Are slightly less dangerous.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I think that like in comedy, comedy right now is
having this comedy boom. But so many people think about
the comedy boom is from a straight white male perspective.
So you say comedy just so no, arenas you go
you mean bird like, it's like it's you're talking about
a very specific subset of comedy fan and comedians. So
like those people dominate the narrative when it comes to comedy,
(16:43):
and so like whenever I get to have something, whenever
you get to have something, it is a it is
it's still like to be celebrated because like, we don't
get these chances a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
We were talking about how many out, how many out?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Once again, how many out gay black men.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Comedy.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
It's like, hey, yeah, it's not a lot. It's us
too out of English Perkins.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It was Richard Pryor.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah about.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
About that women.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
No, no, he had to joke about live and smoking.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
He has the joke.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Boy says, fellas you ever had a fact suck you dick? Yeah,
and he goes, I ain't gonna tell nobody, and you go,
I know he's gonna tell everybody.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
Yeah, he looked up Malon Brando, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, that's that's the rumor that Quincy Jones said, Quincy
Jones was.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Getting old enough to be like, yeah, the matter of
gay queens that just go to the grave rest recipes.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, please.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
But I mean, like everyone knew Paul Mooney was gay,
but he never came out.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
But how did everybody know that, nigga?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
But there was a roadster Richard Pryor where at one
point Richard Prior did call uh Paul Mooney like miss
thang and auntie girl like, So like, there are these
kind of signifiers and winks and nods in the black
community that that straight black people. Maybe they don't want
to put all of your business out there, but they
just know between you and me, I know exactly we
see each other. It's gonna be it's gonna be harder
(18:26):
for some people to understand that because they think it's
silencing queer people. But at the time, I think a
lot of people didn't have the urbis would have had.
The career was opening again, and Paul's sass was so
imbued into his character and his stand up that if
he would have tried to be straight, it wouldn't have
worked at all. So him being sass, he come out
wearing a caff hand and his guard and all, he
(18:49):
was wearing a movie.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
He was just like a big mom. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
See him at Caroline's Wins and he walked, bet he walked.
Tell you about half the comedy club left.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
But I love that for him, and that he would
walk crowds intentionally.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah, yeah, I love that for him.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Jesus Christ and me means his auntie. Yeah, that's the
other thing.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
That's how.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
That's how every every queer black person who saw Paul Mooney,
they saw a bit of themselves.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
They're like, oh, he's like a viper.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Just you know.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
That is one interview we had when I was on
the Breakfast Club that we never aired, really and I'm
trying to it was, yeah.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
I didn't know y'all interviewed Paul is crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
He said, it was a long time ago. I'm trying
to remember because I had already seen him performed, but
I can't remember what it was for. But he definitely
came on and he wasn't like the most blessing, But
I love that.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
I think that, like some people's idea of calm now
is like this very new version of comedy where everyone's
media trained and everyone's so pleasant to be around, and
everyone knows what words to say, words not to say.
Sometimes comics used to give interviews that were crazy, and
I don't I don't hate that. Like every now and
then when I do any sort of interview situation, I
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do try to like I try, I try to act
up a little bit, because if not, then is boring.
Have you and you and you've interviewed so many you've
had conversations with people. You go, oh, I'm glad your
projects out, but baby, this was boring. Yeah, you know,
and ask good questions.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Sometimes people do. I remember I interviewed this one comedian
and the problem sometimes for comedians is he was being
completely serious, but people thought it wasn't real. And I'll
never forget this. He was talking about his gym teacher
and molested him.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
God, and so don't you laugh.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
So everybody's laughing trying to dodgeballs and dodgeball.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
So we're like thinking, there's a punchline coming, and he
was was he was you was serious? You thought you
was g yeah, and we're like, you know, where's the
And so I think sometimes because a lot of comedians
do have a lot of like trauma, that's why they
hit the stage just kind of therapeutic, you know, for
that reason. And I've noticed that, like why you.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Said it that way.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's therapeutic, it's not therapy, because sometimes when a comic
thinks it is therapy, what they're doing is like holding
audience captive and just kind of like basically kind of
doing what you said he did when like there are
moments where you go, Okay, I can say this, but
it's not funny yet, so let me find the funny
part and high like that and then maybe I can
get real and then go back to funny.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, Marlon Wayns is like you can find funny in
any every day.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Oh my god, he was here. We left the entire.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, because he was like his family was at a funeral.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I mean, Marlin Wayne is a perfect example. I think
someone can like continue to grow. Like if you would
have told me that Marlon Wayne was going to be
this trans youth advocate and like be such a champion
for queer people would have said, Marlin for real, and
look at Marlon ways I love that and it breaks
my heart and people think that black people and specifically
black comics can't do that. So I love Marlon waye's
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for what he's doing now.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, no, I agree, And I watched him and and
his growth just even as an actor. I'm him. I
watch that movie and I think he did such an
excellent job.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
He was it.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
But he remember he wasn't working for a dream too.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yes, always he's always been the Wayne's brother where I'm like,
if they get if he gets the right role, there's
gonna be like, you know, award buzz around him, just
because he loves acting. He fully commits the things where
it be comedy or drama, and like most importantly, he's
fine every time.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Well because you want that sexual person to win the award.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Sean, him and Sean they were goofy like all the time,
Sean like everywhere.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
So they were goofy, but like if you look back
on it, like they were models, they were so.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
But you know what else about Marlon, he's really nice.
He's like a nice person.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
He seems nice.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I've never met him, but he seems like unless you're
DJ blad, Yeah, I can't. I get mixed it every
now and then, No, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I wanted to interview him, and Marlon was like forty
thousand dollars oh, and Blad was like no, but you know, Marlin,
I think he that's great.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Like, I think so too, because that is consistently uh,
trying to be part of the culture.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, this is blade if the cookouts over there, Bladder
is a defense like that girl.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Yeah, and we always and always play, and we need
to stop making him a play gray dogs.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
They go, they passed into.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Him over the years ago.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
There you go, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 6 (23:54):
I love talking.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Oh my god, this ain't nothing bad about him.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Man.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
You know, comedy beef is real too, though. Listen, I
don't heard some stars, And I.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Think part of it is because like comedy is close
enough to wrap that, like you have to have a confidence,
you have to have a bravado, you have to have
a swagger, and you also have to think I'm pretty
damn good, if not the best. So then someone when
someone else says I'm the best, you get to be like, no,
I'm the best.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
And so then they they you know, spat it out.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
And then it's also like an ego thing of like
who's opening for, who's going on?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
First?
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Second thing? And you get like telling and.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Who's selling more's popping more?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Who got paid more?
Speaker 6 (24:34):
Yeah? Who's a better rap and they always better put
black people against each other too, and especially in any
type of beef but comedy wrap hip hop.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Do you feel like people have helped you along your.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Yeah, A lot of Wanda Sides has always been there
for me. Wanda Sis like I met her in twenty
nineteen in Montreal and she's she like put me in
the credits of a Netflix thing. I got to work
with her in Philadelphia. She's always been super con She
like always reaches out and checked stuff on me. So
uh wan, this has been super helpful. Bob the Drag
Queen was super helpful to me early in my career.
(25:05):
Taylor Tomlinson took me and let me open for her.
So people have always been very helpful, even like even
in comedy right now, there's so many people who if like,
if a special is coming out, if they just share it,
then you, hey, this is really fun. A lot that
does a lot because if they have a million followers
and like at least like one hundred thousand people start
on their story.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
And then plus if you get booked on Abbot Elementary.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I would love that. That is so funny.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
I saw it's so funny. I saw Janelle twice. I
saw her at the beginning of Abbot, like when everything
was starting to pop off and like people were like
and then the second time I saw her, she was
like getting stopped all the time, famous, like she couldn't
go out in public.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Famous.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Now she does an amazing I love it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
She is so funny and she's so good on it.
And that character, that character is like it was you know,
it was written to be like a pretty important character,
but it's maybe the third most important character plot points sometimes,
but like every episode there's a moment where you go principle, she.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Doesn't want to emmy and I'm very mad.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Sometimes, you know, Awards.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
It's one of those things where like it's you know,
it's the push. It's also like if they think, like
you deserve it now, also who you're up against, and
they were up against hacks, they were up against a juggernaut.
When it came to like, uh, series lead and when
it came to like funny, women say you.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Never watched it. I don't think I did either, you.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Know, really, but I think you would like it.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
I probably would like it, but it's just so white
that I haven't watched it.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
I think I think you were like it.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Plus you also like white guys.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
I don't exclusively like white guys.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Like every time you show me a picture of somebody,
it's like somebody not last.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Every time he showed me, he would show me some folks.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Tomorrow morning guy.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah, listen, listen, My body is for whoever wants. He said.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
The man, have you ever got capfished?
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
And do you still go through? How did you get
out of that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I well, you don't know what whatever. Gay guys have
to deal with that scenario because it does happen a lot.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
This is what they used to do.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
They go, it's stomach, Yes, that's it.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
I was, oh no, that wasn't me, and I just
closed the door. I was like, that wasn't me.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Well no, because if you say, if you say your stomach,
it really kind of makes gay sex.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Impossible because you're like, I don't need you.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Yeah. I literally had someone. I'm like, oh no, no, no, no,
I was. I was God was doing to days and
someone in albuty or whatever, and I was told, ad
you know Artie for QUI I told already the story.
He's like, that's rude. I'm like, what do you do
he's like, oh the fun. I'm like, well, that's the
difference between me.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
And you.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
That I came to throw them out like.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
I'm like, no, he didn't look like there making the picture.
I'm not liar.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Listen, guy, I think will still do it. You know what,
I will let you suck their dick just because they
feel like.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
I have to ask you, guys, tell the marketplace. You
have to look at the economy, the economics of this.
There's there will always be more gay man sometimes straight
man go yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
Putting dick is the easiest thing to get everyone here.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yes, Exactually, dick is so easy to get people show
it unwanted on the subway.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
Yeah, anyone here and that straight man included. Anyone here
can show you wanted in your deal exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Have you ever seen a dick in your DM and
been like, actually.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
I don't really get yeah, but we can change that,
und what.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
But I'm more the happy send the big picture my way,
please and thank.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
You's not like pleasing to look at me like that.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Solicit.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
It was all the time.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
We had an email.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
The email, yeah, the attachment.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It was pretty dick swag and turning pretty dick.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Yeah, okay, Well for me, those emails, we got it,
we got.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Don't stop it, you dig big dragon, we got to revisit.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
No, dang you's you did it, your dick picked circulates
it did, but it hasn't got back to me yet.
I know somebody accidentally sent him back his dig pics.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Someone did on Grinding.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Oh someone sent you you yeah, yeah, on every app.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah, because it's floating around too much. That means I
have erstand.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
I don't her. Yeah, I don't know what that met.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
What happens.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
What happens though, is that like so many people, they
got comfortable sending everything out because like now it's not
necessarily like a career ending situation, like I think who
like Vanessa Hudgens a couple of people have made it
so that like no matter Jennifer Lawrence, like there's been
enough leaks that like if someone who is in the
industry or something like oh there Dick League, you'd be like, well, yeah,
(30:24):
I mean they was out here and put.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Out an attractive picture. So if it like circulations like
oh that's a king.
Speaker 6 (30:31):
And also, no one's gonna be surprised on Grinder. A
team's on Grinder. That's someone like his.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Act now back when it was polaroids, you have to work.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Would you take your grinder profile down?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
You think?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Have you ever gotten that serious with somebody?
Speaker 5 (30:59):
What?
Speaker 6 (30:59):
I yes, I know.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
That's that's the that's the serious thing for the gays
when they get rid of the grinder.
Speaker 6 (31:05):
Yeah. I just needed it for like a month, and
I was like, just like I'm focusing on not on
like projects or whatever. But it's.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Because the dope, the dopamine a candy crush for some people.
It's not even like the sexual component of it's just
like validation from strangers.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Validation from strangers.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I'm kind of bored. I want to and like it's
also like a little bit of like a map of
like in New York. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
If you weren't in New York, it wouldn't even be
as fun New York.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
No, No, okay, because you seem to know a lot of.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
You would at one point.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
You've been married for you've been in a relationship for
so long.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yeah, we take out I told you, he was like,
and then you.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Know, when you set up the profile, I'm like, yeah,
sometimes you.
Speaker 6 (31:55):
Turn it on, like if you go to a different city,
you turn it on just because you're like popular, Like,
none of these games me, so you turn it on
just to see what the what the area is like,
and it's given.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It's giving gay men kind of what they wanted in
high school and college.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
If they didn't get to have those actual.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Block that's excuse didn't come out to you with twenty five.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
I didn't have the college experience to go to college,
but like I didn't.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I was on his live one day he walked out
of the room. I think you went to get food,
and you're like, oh, just stay on my line. Oh yeah, yeah,
all these grinder things kept popping up. I was like,
how actively he opened any of these?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Didn't That's why I have a separate phone with a fault,
you know that.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Do you have videos too like that?
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Oh yeah, like three yeah, okay, but only me fucking
then my mom. I don't have video of me game.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
But like I'm glad you.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I'm glad, Like we can talk about this pretty candidly,
but like right now, there's also like a bit of
a shift where like so many people who have like
normal nine to fives also like because of the pandemic
and because of how hard things are economically, people did
start dipping their toe into like only fans. So like
there are some people who like have you know, just
you know what people would consider regular boring jobs, and
(33:19):
they also have.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Another they also.
Speaker 6 (33:24):
Is a good point.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
And then they also have like this online sex work
that isn't to me. I think we're getting a point
where so many people be like, well.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, I'm okay, is it sex work?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Yeah? Sex work?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I think it's sex work because like they're interfacing with
other people. It's also sex work because the material is
of a sexual nature, even if it's just showing your
button the thong and showing a bulging some underwear.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Is that cheating if like, say you're dating somebody and
they're getting videos solictening videos on OnlyFans.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
No, no, no, no, that's called them paying.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah there, okay, yeah, I agree. If we're dating and
you have two jobs. On those jobs, it's lucrative only
fans put that card down.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
Oh my god, were going.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
To the lounge now, Jay, how did this who lose
special happen? I want to know because I know it's
not easy to get an hour special.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So I've been working. I'd work with comedy Dynamics in
twenty nineteen. They helped record my album, and going into
twenty twenty five, I didn't know if I was going
to have a special. I thought, oh, I'm gonna have
to figure something out by the middle of the year.
And they reached out to me because they were shooting
four of them and they said, we really like working
with Jay. We know Jay's looking for a special. We
can we can shoot it and we can help produce it.
And I also got to be ep and then we
(34:41):
can try to sell it, and like the risk you
take is like they own it, but then it might
not sell, so then we kind of have to figure
out how we're going to distribute it. But then I
was like, I'm okay with this risk. I have a
new hour that I'm touring currently. I had like an
hour and thirty at the time, so I chopped up
the hour and I said, you know what, I have
faith in me.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
My team was like, Jay, just do it.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
You right enough, you'll write something. You write a new
hour before the end of the year. And so I
kind of went out on this limb and it worked out.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
Yeah, I'm so happy you did it.
Speaker 6 (35:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I mean, it's a lot I was, but he was like, oh,
we got to watch you know my guy Jay, and
let's see if he can come on the show. And
I was like, I would love that.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yay, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
That means it worth Also, it's so to me, it's
so important that we still have people making new stuff.
And this is in shade to anyone who's older and
more establishing the industry. But it gets to a point
where like if every if you so, oh, who's your
favorite new up and coming comic and all of them
are fifty something.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Like, you have to make it. No, it's true, though,
you have to make room for like thirty year olds
and not up and coming.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
They might be.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
It might be. So I think when it comes to
comedy right now, we're in a really cool place.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
I think.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
I mean, I talk a lot of shit as.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Far as like sometimes I think that we're in a
really weird place with some stuff, but I think we're
in a really good place. Nothing is going to continue
and for black comedy specifically to continue to thrive and
kind of be the benchmark because black people people made
stand up comedy popular in America. Black people continue to
set the trends when it comes for standing up comedy.
I think you have to also embrace queer black people.
You have to also embrace new, fun black voices when
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it comes to stand up.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
You know, I love it because you were in there
and and doing your stamp, and I know I've seen
you live and then I've watched your special. But even
talking about like people in the audience and you know
who laughs and who doesn't laugh at certain jokes best
that's funny.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
You like, you can see when people love a joke,
and you can also hear sometimes I had this at
the first recording. There was a woman in the back.
You can hear it on some of the things because
it split over two shows.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Her laugh was this was her laugh.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
You can't like. You can't like because you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
She's having a good time, but you, oh, my.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Time. But that was the first show.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
She was drunk and she has she had a great show,
great time, She had great time, just hollering.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yeah, congratulations, I know you got to go. You're going
to comedy seller. Yes I am, but I appreciate you
for stopping.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
It really means a word of me it's one of
Jordan and you know what it's called Yes ma'am. Yes,
exactly three reasons.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
So I say yes ma'am to my mom and one
of the jokes after I come out. And then I
also wanted to be a play on like how southern
but also how queer I am, So yes ma'am is
very respectful, Yes ma'am is also yes ma'am.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
And then also have to play on yes ma'am, so
it's yes ma'am.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
So it's I mean, I think I had a couple
of things I really wanted to achieve in the special,
and I'm very happy.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
You know you should be. Thank you. So congratulations, you
got to come back.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
I would love to.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I want I want to come back. I mean, thank
you for having me. Also have to check up on
this one every now and then.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, yeah, listen, I'm always checking up.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Not in the midst I wouldn't be offended if somebody
was like, I'm gonna come over and have sex.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
With you in the morning, you'd be offended because.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
In the morning, the night before, it's all about your schedule.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
In Jersey, so you have to have to come in
and get fucking then go to work.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I'm not made at morning sets.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Well again, they get a Jay Jorden who just joined us.
Now I came. I wanted to got to you about
your holiday because you went and went to random people's houses.
He posted on social media, So tell us about this
whole experience.
Speaker 6 (38:29):
So I don't like the holidays typically just because my
family's dead and all that other drama. So typically that's
been holidays alone in bed watching Golden Girls being sad.
And I was like, and I go viral on threads
a lot. So I posted something on threads basically making
a joke but also saying I don't have anythings giving plans.
I want a black family. I want to to yeah,
I want to make offer for having a third husband.
(38:51):
I just a joke. A day I went, I took
a nap, I woke up and had like five thousand likes, uh,
three hundred thousand views. I had ninety eight d ms.
So people invited me to the houses people to go to. Well,
I well, I was gonna pick randomly, but my one
of my best friends, Mia Jackson, she was like, don't.
(39:12):
She's like you can't just go to random Niga's house.
You's gonna get taken. But you are already going to
I mean exactly. So I made sure. So I clipped
on people that had that were followed by people that
you know. Yeah, that mutual follow was not I still
don't know them, but like someone that I know was
following them. Okay, So I'm like, okay, cool. So I
went to the first lady I went to. Her name
(39:33):
is Star. She's been following me for a long time.
And what she told me and the mutual following is
I think Sam J because I think she's She's like,
good w w, she's a she's a designer. But so
she did something with sam J or whatever, and I'm like, okay,
that's mutual. And and she was very sweet in the mess.
She's like, I've been following me for years, You're so funny.
I'd love to have you. And I'm like, okay, cool.
So she DM me and I picked her, and then
(39:55):
I just picked another person who actually knew you. Random
They said that they knew you. You guys went on
some some island excursion. I'm like, that sounds like Angela.
I always period used to be never and I'm like, okay, cool,
So I'm gona go. And I went to the first
one and they was so sweet. The food was amazing. Yeah,
(40:19):
the food was in Brooklyn. It was the food was amazing.
It was a black family and we was we was
talking ship and keiki and like we've known each other.
Like they was telling me. They were telling me how
someone was a rolling stone. I'm like, oh, tell me
more about your uncle, Like.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
Was it any drama A little.
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Bit, not like drama, like drama, but like I was
getting like the tea on, like the little family thing. Yeah,
it was cute. And then we took a picture and
then I posted on Instagram and they went crazy viral
over there. I got like almost a thousand new I
got twenty thousand followers now.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
And then you went to a second family.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
And then I went to a second and they was wild.
I didn't post any videos of that because they were
crazy close friends. I did. I got late, yeah, and
everyone was already drinking party and I'm like, okay, so
we were just y'all know, I don't drink, so we
were just there and hanging out. And they were also
very sweet. I ate some of the food, but I
was already, girl, I was full, even picked too, but
I was full. But the dessert day was fire. She
(41:13):
had this pumpkin thing that she made. I don't know
what it was. It was like pumpkin upside down to.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
This every year. Now it's my birthday, come to my house.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Okay, but yeah, it was fun. I had nothing else
to do.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
And then he came over on Sunday and oh yes.
Speaker 6 (41:31):
And then I always he left over at Angela's house.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
They did Thanksgiving on Saturday, right, so the next day
the next day, I tried to get him to come
on Saturday.
Speaker 6 (41:40):
But he was you know, I was tired already.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:42):
I think I had a that night too.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
Yeah, it was fun. It was really fun. I was
happy to do it. And they were very sweet and
they're like, we're gonna come to see you. So the
next time I have a show in the city, they're
gonna come out.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
What did you do with somebody try to take you?
Speaker 6 (41:56):
I guess I'll just get taken all right. I'm not
really a fighter.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
This dummy.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Take it.
Speaker 6 (42:06):
But there was so many people invited me, like so
many white people, like I'm not black, but yeah, you
have to try.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Would have been like that one story next year just
to see.
Speaker 6 (42:17):
But there was sweet people in Canada. Was like, come
to Canada.
Speaker 4 (42:23):
That's something I do. Though. I'm very open my home.
I'm very much a caregiver and I open my home
to friends that I know don't have family and they're
going to be alone. So at my Thanksgiving this year,
I actually had two friends that were not as close
to me or black family, but that came to spend
Thanksgiving with me and my family because they didn't have
(42:44):
anything else.
Speaker 6 (42:45):
I think that's super important to do, especially especially because
sometimes not as much anymore, but back in the day,
a lot of times, especially black people. Unfortunately gay black
kids didn't have like the support around family because like
they came out in the family just all and stuff
like that. So it's really important. I think a lot
of people used to do it a lot back then.
They still do it now for them to have that
open post. She was like, hey, you can come here
(43:06):
for me.
Speaker 4 (43:06):
Living in Atlanta, we have so many transplants. I was
once a transplant. Yeah, so my first year in Atlanta,
I knew nobody besides the cousin that I was staying with,
So I didn't have anywhere to go on Thanksgiving and
one of my stripper sisters, she doesn't invited me to
her house. She's like, what you're doing things giving? Kind
of my house. I'm cooking, And then I just kind
of paid that forward.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
Yeah. I think I just saw miss pat on an
interview talking about it that she does the same thing
in Atlanta. She invites a bunch of Yeah, so it
was great. It was a really fun experience.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Okay, I cannot wait to see what you do for Christmas.
Speaker 6 (43:37):
I don't know either. Me and Jeordie. We gotta do
light stuff though, because we lost.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
We're going to go to Brooklyn Botannic Cook Guidens to see.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
The Yeah, I want to care.
Speaker 6 (43:48):
When is it?
Speaker 1 (43:50):
It's now? Okay, it's Happeningmber.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
Sometimes the next few weeks December, I supposed to do
like date type things with me money and I know,
and don't got to put out after well, listen, I Cam,
thank you so much for coming through, and thank you
for introducing us to Jay. I really love his energy
so much fun.
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Yeah, I love he's very fun. Make sure you gotta
check out his special Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Remember that ma'am situation with Kwondo Ronald. I was like,
this is ma'am. He calls me ma'am one more time.
But yeah, so lift service. Check that out on who
check out my guy? I came when he's coming to
a city near you, follow.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
Him on Instagram and threads up the grinder. I don't
have to pick on that will be up to day
very soon hopefully.
Speaker 4 (44:43):
Service I know it period.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Bye
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