April 13, 2023 • 19 mins
We’re back with another IRL #TakeAways. The in-between audio-only podcast where Angie and special guests reflect on episode responses, takeaways, and highlights.
On this week’s #TakeAways Angie and her producer Brittany recap the recent episode featuring JT from the City Girls. They immediately dive into the most resonating moment of the interview where JT shares her struggles with beating herself up and her journey towards self-love and acceptance. A viral moment that humanized her and allowed us all to connect with her on a personal level, a testament to the power of vulnerability and authenticity.
They also reflect on how candidly JT spoke about the challenges she faced in her relationship with her mom and how she has worked to forgive her mother for past mistakes. She shows a lot of grace towards her, acknowledging that she did the best she could with the tools she had, and that forgiveness has allowed their relationship to heal.
Tune in to hear Angie and Brittany's conversation about after effects JT left on them and so many of you.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Andre Martinez in Real life podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I do say. Hey guys, we are back,
told you we'd be back today. We're on a roll.
This is what you call a podcast role, Brittany. We're
in a vibe. We're in a vibe. We're really not
used to doing podcasts back to back, two days in
a row. Um. But yes, if you missed the taragi
(00:23):
Um follow up that went up yesterday, you can check
that out. We just posted that yesterday. Today we are
going to discuss this JT episode which off top I
feel like the biggest clip um that I keep seeing
all over my timeline and I think people resonated to
and connected with so much was the one where she
talks about beating herself up. Yeah, beating herself up, and
(00:44):
she's saying that she doesn't want to do that anymore.
Play for you real quick. We've all pleased. I do
want you to play, but have I not We're not
all Can we not all understand? And does this not
clip resonate with everybody with us? Do you do you
beat yourself up? Absolutely? I'm deaf only queen overcritical. Someone
else could tell me you did a great job, and
I'm like, yeah, but X, Y and Z could have
(01:05):
been a little bit better. I could have been different.
I think we are um, like we have to put
high expectations on ourselves and we have a vision. So
sometimes if it's not executed all the way, we have
this like, oh, I could have been greater. But she's
talking about is different. I think she's talking about like
you ain't shit, like the conversation that we have with ourselves.
(01:26):
What's wrong with you? Why did you do that? I mean,
I've I've been there. Um, I don't know. That's what
I got. And we play the clip. Let's see what
everybody feels. Some days, I beat myself up on my
own worst enemy. I beat myself down, down, down to
the ground, from every aspect. I just wake up beating
(01:47):
myself down, and I'm tired of it. Like I don't
want to keep waking up beating myself down. I'm so beautiful, Yes,
Like I'm all at. It's like, girl, be all at?
Why you gotta wake up this morning and tell yourself
all you're all at? Like just be all it, don't
be scared to be all it. Don't worry about if something, Man,
it's about to happen. Just be all that today. If
he's something, man, it happens tomorrow, you deal with it tomorrow.
(02:08):
Don't deal with it today. Just be all it today.
Do not be afraid to be all it today. I
love that clip because I love how she goes through
the whole thing about you know, the negative things that
she tells herself, but the way she ends it's, um,
it's just sassy and cute, and the version that you
would think she feels all the time because she's so
city girl. She's like, you know, I'm fly, I'm this,
(02:29):
I'm that. She's always you know, she's popping that. Well.
She talked that she's supposed to talk as a young
female rapper, but the fact that she could be so
honest and vulnerable and tell you, well, the truth is,
I don't always feel like that, and this is what
it is. I think that's why people so many people
like that clip. But there are a lot of great moments.
By the way, Nyla Simone just joined us here. First
(02:49):
of all, before anything, my number one takeaway from this
episode is that I love her. I know you already
loved her, brit you know, Miami girl, I love me
some City Girl. When we first got that DM, she
said she wanted to do the show. I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
It was way excited, um, but I for sure fell
(03:10):
in love with her um spending this time with her
and during this episode, I'm just so happy she felt
safe too, Like she really gave it up. You would
have thought you guys knew each other at that conversation.
It's funny because I feel like we know each other now.
I feel like she could call me at any time.
I feel like if I just feel like, you know,
sometimes when you connect with somebody genuinely, you don't have
to I could not talk to her for six months,
(03:32):
but when I see her, we have already established an
authentic relationship, and she's so likable. She had a different
persona than what I like, savorite personality. Not thought of
her that you've seen of her, or that you thought
of her that I thought of her, just based off
Twitter more so. Yeah, it was on Twitter. She's snapping
back at people, and I'm like, yeah, I'm tired of
(03:55):
being this angry black girl. I actually told Nyla that
we were doing JAYT before we in her, and she
was like, I'm not really a fan of said that
because she snapped back at somebody. I went to school
it and honestly, the person that she sat back at,
you know, I don't even want to say this, but
I just was like, why is Jat doing that? She's
above that and like her. But now, so when you
(04:18):
watched when you saw the episode, did you understand her personality?
Why more? Yeah? Because because like, if you've been through
what j has been through, and you couldn't have been
soft to survive that, you have to be hard. You
have to protect your ground. She's in the house with
sixteen other fifteen other brothers and sisters and not really
protected and not really cared for, and then hustling and hustling,
(04:42):
scamming and trying to survive and trying to make something
out of nothing. You can't be soft and you can't
let people roll all over you. And so I'm sure
some of that trauma pokes his head out every time
somebody what she feels when they come at her. Yeah,
it triggers her, Yeah, and I her more human. And
I think that's the beauty of talking and conversation and
really getting to know people, because we judge people, right,
(05:03):
We judge people based on their actions or one action
that we see on a social media platform or roll
of the eye. We saw them give somebody, but you
don't know what they've been through to get there. Yeah,
you don't know how they're feeling inside. So what comes
out on the outside sometimes it's not doesn't match really
a person's story. That first of all, her her reaching
(05:24):
out to be on the podcast, I was like so
touched by that. Well she called it, she said, this
is a mature podcast. She don't know how A damn
fool sometimes No, but I get what she said. I
could you imagine a lot of the outlets and platforms
of people that have covered her, they're bringing up things
like when she snapped back at somebody and now you're
(05:46):
putting her back in that place. But I think she
knew that on this show we would give her a
chance to just get to know her without any kind
of like judgment on those types of who care, by
the way, I don't care, right, I don't. I don't
really care about that type of stuff. Like me just
personally in my own real life, that's probably the perfect
person to do these type of interviews. And because you
give people grace in real life. Thanks man. You know
(06:08):
who gives people grace? JT? You know who she gave
grace to? Who her mother? Can we please run that
clip since we're talking about we gotta get back to JT.
This is JT talking about. This is definitely one of
the takeaways I loved. And by the way, shout out
to JT's mom, who hopped into DMS of i R.
She loved the episode. We love that her mom loved
(06:30):
the episode. You know her her history and her story
where her mom is very complicated, but they seem to
be in as good of a a place as they can be.
You know, her mother had struggled with drug addiction. JT
had to like move around from house to house. She
lived with her father and stepmother for a while, who
(06:51):
they had a whole bunch of other kids. Uh, a
different mother. Um. So she talks about that experience and
then um reconnecting with her mom. I'm here's that clip.
I was nobody's daughter in the house. I was nobody's sister,
so I was living with my friends. I'm not I'm
not nobody's daughter. Nobody own me. Shit. They'll do it
because they feel sorry, or they feel bad, or they
(07:13):
wanted to wait, I'm not that's not my mom. So
I have to get up and go to work, and
I have to bring something to this household to be here.
So that's that could turn somebody angry, like the fact
that you forgive your mom and you have this relationship
with her. Now, I don't know. It's just like, how
do you find Where do you find that? Where does
that come? It took a wow. It took a wow
(07:34):
at first. I was just I still to this day
getting my modes and tell my mom, I don't owe
you shit. I get on my modes and I would
tell her fast, I don't owe you shit, not have
to remind her. Then I feel bad because I feel like,
maybe her what she went through, it's the reason I'm blessed.
O get it. So I'm like, maybe what my mom
(07:55):
went through it is the reason I'm blessed because she
just went through so much. She went through a lot.
My mom went through so much. I don't even want
to say, hell you who? That's heavy? She um. She
actually does tell us a lot about about their relationship,
and I loved that her mother listened to the episode,
And I love that her mother liked the episode. You know,
because it's hard, it's probably feel it's probably a sensitive
(08:16):
thing to hear your daughter talk about you publicly on
a podcast and and but still be proud of her.
And you know, it's dope mother daughter relationships. I like
that we're doing mother daughter relationships though, because we always
talk about folks not having a dad. We do talk
about dad. Strange father, your dad's situation. And by the way,
(08:43):
we have to have a follow up with Kelly Rowland,
for sure. We did a follow up yesterday with Saraji
p Henson. She showed up. I absolutely have to do
a follow up with Kelly Rowland because I have some
things I want to share. I'm not fully processed yet
about that episode, and I don't only want to do
that with Kelly. I hope y'all appreciate this, because in
(09:04):
Angie's a really long career. You know, you don't really
You're always a person asking the questions, and I love that.
I love that you're just we get we get a
peek into your personal brain. There things I still gotta
be like married, don't keep my brow pant not too much,
not too much here naked though now it's important. I
can't ask everybody to share in on a different level
and not do the same myself. And also it's it's
(09:25):
therapeutic to a certain extent. I saw a comedian by
the way on Teaming the other day talking about trauma
and he said, Uh, trauma is um it's just unmonetized content. Wow, Okay.
I thought that was so funny because the thing when
you turn it into content, when you turn it into
(09:45):
conversation into sharing, it's like you release it and it's
like it's your trauma becomes like the thing that you
could use um on a podcast. And so I'm just
learning that I've never used my own traumas and experience
on the radio or in my interviews because that's not
what it was about. But now here we are talking
about real life. I gotta give you all, you know
(10:08):
a little bit of my shit. Um So yeah, so
I will share some of that and shout out to
Kelly Rowland. We should absolutely do a follow up on
her episode back to JT by the way. She also
had daddy issues too, I mean, her father took her
in and all of that, but it wasn't sweet and
she still hasn't mended that. Like she she's still in
a weird place with her father. Um, you're like the
(10:29):
only person on the planet, Brittany that doesn't have that
seemed to have, Like, my dad's the best. Shout out
to my d He's the best. But strong black father
heard you. So what other takeaways from this episode? You're
JT fan, britt What was some of your personal takeaways
from the episode? We'll I have a few, but my
(10:49):
fun one is, you know, the city girls really took
scamming and like being that whole city girl thing to
the next level. And I love that she's to some
of them, myself included, because I know now, but I
don't know that if I didn't do this job and
I was just living like like my girlfriends and my
(11:10):
girlfriends live, I don't know that I would know what
the true definition of a city girl was. Okay, the
marketing meaning of a city girl is a girl who's
selfish and it's gonna do the best whatever is best
for herself. That means you get with a guy, you're
gonna make sure he pays all your bills. Um, and
it's always getting to the money first. But it's what
(11:31):
is a bay by any means necessary? But also you're
a girl's girl. That's it. That's an important part of
being a city girl. Your your fur women first holds
before bro got it. Okay, I heard you. But but
now she's an evolved city girl from that time. Yeah,
there was a point when I asked her, um, how
important money? Yeah, how important money was? And she said, well,
(11:54):
play that clip in real life? How important is money
to you? The city girl answer both both? Um, okay
the city girl answer and money is everything? Okay, my answer.
It's cool. Really, it's cool because I don't receive items,
and I still we just saw like one more so,
(12:17):
I think that it's anything like being inner, like your
inner peace, your inner happiness, your inner everything. I feel
like everything we get on this theory is to a price. Others, Yeah,
we wanted too, but we know that when we post
this thing, somebody else's swear to call up about it,
not even you. So I love that clip, you know why,
(12:41):
because that's what to me, that that represents the conversations
I want to have on this podcast. It's like we're
all in the world, trying to survive, trying to have
a career, trying to portray whatever image of ourselves we want.
The worlds, whether you're an artist, so you work at
school and you're trying to act like you're the best
teacher who knows everything and you got it all together.
(13:01):
But then there's a moment when we all kind of
have to just, you know, take a minute, and who
are we really and what do we really care about?
And so, yes, you're a city girl, but how much
does money really mean to you? And so I love that.
I don't know, that's That's kind of like what I
longed for in this podcast is having those type of conversations,
like the difference between the exterior version of yourself and
(13:25):
the interior version of yourself. Another takeaway that I had
was the fact that she was so willing to do
work on herself. She talks about like she knows she
has trauma. You know, sometimes people have trauma and they
act out and they know they're angry, but they don't
they don't know why. I feel like she knows enough
(13:45):
about herself to know I have these issues, these things
pop up for me, I need to do work on
myself to get past that. I love to see that
in people because like that's the beginning of changing yourself,
of growing in some ways that first like kind of acknowledgement,
that type of clarity like that. Like she mentioned a
couple of times during the interview that she was going
(14:07):
to do therapy. She said take therapy, which is cute.
It was cute She's gonna take therapy. Um, but I
believe her and I believe she has Yeah, she said
she was just looking for the right therapist. She hasn't
found the right fit yet. I feel like she turned
thirty and then all of a sudden she started making shifts.
She was like, I'm gonna go do the angiepod and
(14:27):
she would like sort of sold the world like grown
up eyes lenses and now she's now she's a new woman.
But yeah, I hope she does. You know, if we're
talking about we keep talking about follow up episodes. I
would love to see her after a couple of therapy sessions,
see what she learned about herself with changes she's implemented.
That's one of my favorite things about this podcast too.
(14:47):
We love giving away free a therapy's on here because
that's the only thing that helps us a lot of
us cope through real life. Because real life is hard
all the time. Shit is hard, even when you're like
dopen small, hard or successful or a good person, or
some people are beautiful on the outside and you think
they've got great lives. Real life is hard for everybody.
(15:08):
Everybody has hurdles and challenges and traumas, Like every single
human that I've ever met. I mean, I'm sure there's
some like I don't know Monk living in place that
they don't have trauma and they don't have that. But
for anybody if I've ever met in this world, in
the Western world has shit and so um therapy is uh,
(15:30):
you know it's necessary anyway, So yes, So if we
can get free therapy, I love that. And if you
out there have any tips from your therapy sessions that
you would like to share, they dropping in the comments.
We'd love to dive deeper into that. What are someones
in the past that people have shared, like Usher Usher
good therapy, how to listen to your partner. Usher gave
(15:51):
partner therapy, because that's different. Couples therapy is different. Couples
therapy is when you learn how to unpack all your
bullshit with another person another person and they unpack their
bullshit and then you could both learn to communicate, learn
to argue, learn to hear each other learn to like
put down some of those defensive walls that all of
(16:12):
us have. And so Usher has done a lot of
that work and he seems very happy in his relationship shows.
He gave that free therapy away. Then Lauren would grief.
Lauren the grief therapy Lauren gave out here on this pod.
Listen man and Lauren is actually the reason why one
of the reasons why JT wanted to do this pot too.
She absolutely loved Lauren's episode and I loved the story
(16:32):
about that. JT said Aboutlauren London reaching out to her privately,
like she would DM her and encourage her and give
her advice and stuff, which is sol and then Lauren
knew her music. She was like, why you know that song?
Why Lauren London came like a little city girls? What's
wrong with true? Um? Yeah, super dope. But yes, I
would love to do a post therapy JT session. Was
(16:55):
there anybody else who did therapy? Oh, Kelly Rowland gave
us therapy. Daddy issued a pre we did that Kelly Clarkson,
which I can't wait to do the Kelly Clarkson takeaway
because she had a lot of post breakup, post divorce therapy,
jewels to share. So anyway, Yes, therapy, go therapy. Go
(17:16):
JT for being open to that. We love you, Mama.
We really enjoyed our conversation with you. I hope you
guys get a chance to check out the episode. If
you haven't yet, please subscribe to Andrew Martinez IRL. The
full video is on YouTube. The full audio is right
here or wherever you hear your podcasts. Um so yeah, subscribe,
Tell a friend. Tomorrow we're gonna drop yet another takeaway. Tomorrow.
(17:39):
We're gonna go back to one we haven't really looked at,
which was the Kim Kardashian interview. That's gonna be a
good one at a lot of opinions, around many opinions.
I think I still have a little trauma from the
reaction to the Camp Kardashian therapy. Should we remind people
of that conversation before we get out of here? We're
(18:00):
talking divorce co parenting. If you haven't seen that video,
this is the one we're gonna be talking about tomorrow.
Here's a clip. It is Kim Kardashian talking about co
parenting with Kanye West. I don't want to get emotional.
It's hard. Shit is like co parenting. It's really fucking hard,
(18:22):
you know, And like you're not co parenting with just anyone. Yea.
I had the best dad, and I had the best
memories and the greatest experience, and that's all I want
for my kids. As long as they can have that,
(18:43):
that's what I would want for them, you know. So,
like if they don't know things that are being said
or what's happening in the world, like, why would I
ever bring that energy to them? You know, that's like
really heavy, heavy, grown up shit that they're not ready
to like deal with, you know. And when they are,
we'll have those conversations, but like and I'll be so prepared,
(19:08):
But until them, I'll do anything to like keep their
life as normal as possible. You know. That was the
kim Ka conversation, which we will discuss tomorrow on another
episode of Edge. Martine zare I'll takeaway, So tomorrow's kim
Ka takeaway. Then right after that we're going to do
a Kelly Clarkson takeaway, really dive into that episode and
(19:31):
some of the jewels that she dropped there, and yeah,
that's the plan, guys. And then after that We're gonna
hit you with a brand new live audio video interview
with our next guest, so I'm excited about that too.
Thanks for checking this out, this episode out please again,
don't forget to subscribe and get with you tomorrow. Hi guys,
Andre Martinez in Real life podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I do say. Hey guys, we are back,
told you we'd be back today. We're on a roll.
This is what you call a podcast role, Brittany. We're
in a vibe. We're in a vibe. We're really not
used to doing podcasts back to back, two days in
a row. Um. But yes, if you missed the taragi
(00:23):
Um follow up that went up yesterday, you can check
that out. We just posted that yesterday. Today we are
going to discuss this JT episode which off top I
feel like the biggest clip um that I keep seeing
all over my timeline and I think people resonated to
and connected with so much was the one where she
talks about beating herself up. Yeah, beating herself up, and
(00:44):
she's saying that she doesn't want to do that anymore.
Play for you real quick. We've all pleased. I do
want you to play, but have I not We're not
all Can we not all understand? And does this not
clip resonate with everybody with us? Do you do you
beat yourself up? Absolutely? I'm deaf only queen overcritical. Someone
else could tell me you did a great job, and
I'm like, yeah, but X, Y and Z could have
(01:05):
been a little bit better. I could have been different.
I think we are um, like we have to put
high expectations on ourselves and we have a vision. So
sometimes if it's not executed all the way, we have
this like, oh, I could have been greater. But she's
talking about is different. I think she's talking about like
you ain't shit, like the conversation that we have with ourselves.
(01:26):
What's wrong with you? Why did you do that? I mean,
I've I've been there. Um, I don't know. That's what
I got. And we play the clip. Let's see what
everybody feels. Some days, I beat myself up on my
own worst enemy. I beat myself down, down, down to
the ground, from every aspect. I just wake up beating
(01:47):
myself down, and I'm tired of it. Like I don't
want to keep waking up beating myself down. I'm so beautiful, Yes,
Like I'm all at. It's like, girl, be all at?
Why you gotta wake up this morning and tell yourself
all you're all at? Like just be all it, don't
be scared to be all it. Don't worry about if something, Man,
it's about to happen. Just be all that today. If
he's something, man, it happens tomorrow, you deal with it tomorrow.
(02:08):
Don't deal with it today. Just be all it today.
Do not be afraid to be all it today. I
love that clip because I love how she goes through
the whole thing about you know, the negative things that
she tells herself, but the way she ends it's, um,
it's just sassy and cute, and the version that you
would think she feels all the time because she's so
city girl. She's like, you know, I'm fly, I'm this,
(02:29):
I'm that. She's always you know, she's popping that. Well.
She talked that she's supposed to talk as a young
female rapper, but the fact that she could be so
honest and vulnerable and tell you, well, the truth is,
I don't always feel like that, and this is what
it is. I think that's why people so many people
like that clip. But there are a lot of great moments.
By the way, Nyla Simone just joined us here. First
(02:49):
of all, before anything, my number one takeaway from this
episode is that I love her. I know you already
loved her, brit you know, Miami girl, I love me
some City Girl. When we first got that DM, she
said she wanted to do the show. I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
It was way excited, um, but I for sure fell
(03:10):
in love with her um spending this time with her
and during this episode, I'm just so happy she felt
safe too, Like she really gave it up. You would
have thought you guys knew each other at that conversation.
It's funny because I feel like we know each other now.
I feel like she could call me at any time.
I feel like if I just feel like, you know,
sometimes when you connect with somebody genuinely, you don't have
to I could not talk to her for six months,
(03:32):
but when I see her, we have already established an
authentic relationship, and she's so likable. She had a different
persona than what I like, savorite personality. Not thought of
her that you've seen of her, or that you thought
of her that I thought of her, just based off
Twitter more so. Yeah, it was on Twitter. She's snapping
back at people, and I'm like, yeah, I'm tired of
(03:55):
being this angry black girl. I actually told Nyla that
we were doing JAYT before we in her, and she
was like, I'm not really a fan of said that
because she snapped back at somebody. I went to school
it and honestly, the person that she sat back at,
you know, I don't even want to say this, but
I just was like, why is Jat doing that? She's
above that and like her. But now, so when you
(04:18):
watched when you saw the episode, did you understand her personality?
Why more? Yeah? Because because like, if you've been through
what j has been through, and you couldn't have been
soft to survive that, you have to be hard. You
have to protect your ground. She's in the house with
sixteen other fifteen other brothers and sisters and not really
protected and not really cared for, and then hustling and hustling,
(04:42):
scamming and trying to survive and trying to make something
out of nothing. You can't be soft and you can't
let people roll all over you. And so I'm sure
some of that trauma pokes his head out every time
somebody what she feels when they come at her. Yeah,
it triggers her, Yeah, and I her more human. And
I think that's the beauty of talking and conversation and
really getting to know people, because we judge people, right,
(05:03):
We judge people based on their actions or one action
that we see on a social media platform or roll
of the eye. We saw them give somebody, but you
don't know what they've been through to get there. Yeah,
you don't know how they're feeling inside. So what comes
out on the outside sometimes it's not doesn't match really
a person's story. That first of all, her her reaching
(05:24):
out to be on the podcast, I was like so
touched by that. Well she called it, she said, this
is a mature podcast. She don't know how A damn
fool sometimes No, but I get what she said. I
could you imagine a lot of the outlets and platforms
of people that have covered her, they're bringing up things
like when she snapped back at somebody and now you're
(05:46):
putting her back in that place. But I think she
knew that on this show we would give her a
chance to just get to know her without any kind
of like judgment on those types of who care, by
the way, I don't care, right, I don't. I don't
really care about that type of stuff. Like me just
personally in my own real life, that's probably the perfect
person to do these type of interviews. And because you
give people grace in real life. Thanks man. You know
(06:08):
who gives people grace? JT? You know who she gave
grace to? Who her mother? Can we please run that
clip since we're talking about we gotta get back to JT.
This is JT talking about. This is definitely one of
the takeaways I loved. And by the way, shout out
to JT's mom, who hopped into DMS of i R.
She loved the episode. We love that her mom loved
(06:30):
the episode. You know her her history and her story
where her mom is very complicated, but they seem to
be in as good of a a place as they can be.
You know, her mother had struggled with drug addiction. JT
had to like move around from house to house. She
lived with her father and stepmother for a while, who
(06:51):
they had a whole bunch of other kids. Uh, a
different mother. Um. So she talks about that experience and
then um reconnecting with her mom. I'm here's that clip.
I was nobody's daughter in the house. I was nobody's sister,
so I was living with my friends. I'm not I'm
not nobody's daughter. Nobody own me. Shit. They'll do it
because they feel sorry, or they feel bad, or they
(07:13):
wanted to wait, I'm not that's not my mom. So
I have to get up and go to work, and
I have to bring something to this household to be here.
So that's that could turn somebody angry, like the fact
that you forgive your mom and you have this relationship
with her. Now, I don't know. It's just like, how
do you find Where do you find that? Where does
that come? It took a wow. It took a wow
(07:34):
at first. I was just I still to this day
getting my modes and tell my mom, I don't owe
you shit. I get on my modes and I would
tell her fast, I don't owe you shit, not have
to remind her. Then I feel bad because I feel like,
maybe her what she went through, it's the reason I'm blessed.
O get it. So I'm like, maybe what my mom
(07:55):
went through it is the reason I'm blessed because she
just went through so much. She went through a lot.
My mom went through so much. I don't even want
to say, hell you who? That's heavy? She um. She
actually does tell us a lot about about their relationship,
and I loved that her mother listened to the episode,
And I love that her mother liked the episode. You know,
because it's hard, it's probably feel it's probably a sensitive
(08:16):
thing to hear your daughter talk about you publicly on
a podcast and and but still be proud of her.
And you know, it's dope mother daughter relationships. I like
that we're doing mother daughter relationships though, because we always
talk about folks not having a dad. We do talk
about dad. Strange father, your dad's situation. And by the way,
(08:43):
we have to have a follow up with Kelly Rowland,
for sure. We did a follow up yesterday with Saraji
p Henson. She showed up. I absolutely have to do
a follow up with Kelly Rowland because I have some
things I want to share. I'm not fully processed yet
about that episode, and I don't only want to do
that with Kelly. I hope y'all appreciate this, because in
(09:04):
Angie's a really long career. You know, you don't really
You're always a person asking the questions, and I love that.
I love that you're just we get we get a
peek into your personal brain. There things I still gotta
be like married, don't keep my brow pant not too much,
not too much here naked though now it's important. I
can't ask everybody to share in on a different level
and not do the same myself. And also it's it's
(09:25):
therapeutic to a certain extent. I saw a comedian by
the way on Teaming the other day talking about trauma
and he said, Uh, trauma is um it's just unmonetized content. Wow, Okay.
I thought that was so funny because the thing when
you turn it into content, when you turn it into
(09:45):
conversation into sharing, it's like you release it and it's
like it's your trauma becomes like the thing that you
could use um on a podcast. And so I'm just
learning that I've never used my own traumas and experience
on the radio or in my interviews because that's not
what it was about. But now here we are talking
about real life. I gotta give you all, you know
(10:08):
a little bit of my shit. Um So yeah, so
I will share some of that and shout out to
Kelly Rowland. We should absolutely do a follow up on
her episode back to JT by the way. She also
had daddy issues too, I mean, her father took her
in and all of that, but it wasn't sweet and
she still hasn't mended that. Like she she's still in
a weird place with her father. Um, you're like the
(10:29):
only person on the planet, Brittany that doesn't have that
seemed to have, Like, my dad's the best. Shout out
to my d He's the best. But strong black father
heard you. So what other takeaways from this episode? You're
JT fan, britt What was some of your personal takeaways
from the episode? We'll I have a few, but my
(10:49):
fun one is, you know, the city girls really took
scamming and like being that whole city girl thing to
the next level. And I love that she's to some
of them, myself included, because I know now, but I
don't know that if I didn't do this job and
I was just living like like my girlfriends and my
(11:10):
girlfriends live, I don't know that I would know what
the true definition of a city girl was. Okay, the
marketing meaning of a city girl is a girl who's
selfish and it's gonna do the best whatever is best
for herself. That means you get with a guy, you're
gonna make sure he pays all your bills. Um, and
it's always getting to the money first. But it's what
(11:31):
is a bay by any means necessary? But also you're
a girl's girl. That's it. That's an important part of
being a city girl. Your your fur women first holds
before bro got it. Okay, I heard you. But but
now she's an evolved city girl from that time. Yeah,
there was a point when I asked her, um, how
important money? Yeah, how important money was? And she said, well,
(11:54):
play that clip in real life? How important is money
to you? The city girl answer both both? Um, okay
the city girl answer and money is everything? Okay, my answer.
It's cool. Really, it's cool because I don't receive items,
and I still we just saw like one more so,
(12:17):
I think that it's anything like being inner, like your
inner peace, your inner happiness, your inner everything. I feel
like everything we get on this theory is to a price. Others, Yeah,
we wanted too, but we know that when we post
this thing, somebody else's swear to call up about it,
not even you. So I love that clip, you know why,
(12:41):
because that's what to me, that that represents the conversations
I want to have on this podcast. It's like we're
all in the world, trying to survive, trying to have
a career, trying to portray whatever image of ourselves we want.
The worlds, whether you're an artist, so you work at
school and you're trying to act like you're the best
teacher who knows everything and you got it all together.
(13:01):
But then there's a moment when we all kind of
have to just, you know, take a minute, and who
are we really and what do we really care about?
And so, yes, you're a city girl, but how much
does money really mean to you? And so I love that.
I don't know, that's That's kind of like what I
longed for in this podcast is having those type of conversations,
like the difference between the exterior version of yourself and
(13:25):
the interior version of yourself. Another takeaway that I had
was the fact that she was so willing to do
work on herself. She talks about like she knows she
has trauma. You know, sometimes people have trauma and they
act out and they know they're angry, but they don't
they don't know why. I feel like she knows enough
(13:45):
about herself to know I have these issues, these things
pop up for me, I need to do work on
myself to get past that. I love to see that
in people because like that's the beginning of changing yourself,
of growing in some ways that first like kind of acknowledgement,
that type of clarity like that. Like she mentioned a
couple of times during the interview that she was going
(14:07):
to do therapy. She said take therapy, which is cute.
It was cute She's gonna take therapy. Um, but I
believe her and I believe she has Yeah, she said
she was just looking for the right therapist. She hasn't
found the right fit yet. I feel like she turned
thirty and then all of a sudden she started making shifts.
She was like, I'm gonna go do the angiepod and
(14:27):
she would like sort of sold the world like grown
up eyes lenses and now she's now she's a new woman.
But yeah, I hope she does. You know, if we're
talking about we keep talking about follow up episodes. I
would love to see her after a couple of therapy sessions,
see what she learned about herself with changes she's implemented.
That's one of my favorite things about this podcast too.
(14:47):
We love giving away free a therapy's on here because
that's the only thing that helps us a lot of
us cope through real life. Because real life is hard
all the time. Shit is hard, even when you're like
dopen small, hard or successful or a good person, or
some people are beautiful on the outside and you think
they've got great lives. Real life is hard for everybody.
(15:08):
Everybody has hurdles and challenges and traumas, Like every single
human that I've ever met. I mean, I'm sure there's
some like I don't know Monk living in place that
they don't have trauma and they don't have that. But
for anybody if I've ever met in this world, in
the Western world has shit and so um therapy is uh,
(15:30):
you know it's necessary anyway, So yes, So if we
can get free therapy, I love that. And if you
out there have any tips from your therapy sessions that
you would like to share, they dropping in the comments.
We'd love to dive deeper into that. What are someones
in the past that people have shared, like Usher Usher
good therapy, how to listen to your partner. Usher gave
(15:51):
partner therapy, because that's different. Couples therapy is different. Couples
therapy is when you learn how to unpack all your
bullshit with another person another person and they unpack their
bullshit and then you could both learn to communicate, learn
to argue, learn to hear each other learn to like
put down some of those defensive walls that all of
(16:12):
us have. And so Usher has done a lot of
that work and he seems very happy in his relationship shows.
He gave that free therapy away. Then Lauren would grief.
Lauren the grief therapy Lauren gave out here on this pod.
Listen man and Lauren is actually the reason why one
of the reasons why JT wanted to do this pot too.
She absolutely loved Lauren's episode and I loved the story
(16:32):
about that. JT said Aboutlauren London reaching out to her privately,
like she would DM her and encourage her and give
her advice and stuff, which is sol and then Lauren
knew her music. She was like, why you know that song?
Why Lauren London came like a little city girls? What's
wrong with true? Um? Yeah, super dope. But yes, I
would love to do a post therapy JT session. Was
(16:55):
there anybody else who did therapy? Oh, Kelly Rowland gave
us therapy. Daddy issued a pre we did that Kelly Clarkson,
which I can't wait to do the Kelly Clarkson takeaway
because she had a lot of post breakup, post divorce therapy,
jewels to share. So anyway, Yes, therapy, go therapy. Go
(17:16):
JT for being open to that. We love you, Mama.
We really enjoyed our conversation with you. I hope you
guys get a chance to check out the episode. If
you haven't yet, please subscribe to Andrew Martinez IRL. The
full video is on YouTube. The full audio is right
here or wherever you hear your podcasts. Um so yeah, subscribe,
Tell a friend. Tomorrow we're gonna drop yet another takeaway. Tomorrow.
(17:39):
We're gonna go back to one we haven't really looked at,
which was the Kim Kardashian interview. That's gonna be a
good one at a lot of opinions, around many opinions.
I think I still have a little trauma from the
reaction to the Camp Kardashian therapy. Should we remind people
of that conversation before we get out of here? We're
(18:00):
talking divorce co parenting. If you haven't seen that video,
this is the one we're gonna be talking about tomorrow.
Here's a clip. It is Kim Kardashian talking about co
parenting with Kanye West. I don't want to get emotional.
It's hard. Shit is like co parenting. It's really fucking hard,
(18:22):
you know, And like you're not co parenting with just anyone. Yea.
I had the best dad, and I had the best
memories and the greatest experience, and that's all I want
for my kids. As long as they can have that,
(18:43):
that's what I would want for them, you know. So,
like if they don't know things that are being said
or what's happening in the world, like, why would I
ever bring that energy to them? You know, that's like
really heavy, heavy, grown up shit that they're not ready
to like deal with, you know. And when they are,
we'll have those conversations, but like and I'll be so prepared,
(19:08):
But until them, I'll do anything to like keep their
life as normal as possible. You know. That was the
kim Ka conversation, which we will discuss tomorrow on another
episode of Edge. Martine zare I'll takeaway, So tomorrow's kim
Ka takeaway. Then right after that we're going to do
a Kelly Clarkson takeaway, really dive into that episode and
(19:31):
some of the jewels that she dropped there, and yeah,
that's the plan, guys. And then after that We're gonna
hit you with a brand new live audio video interview
with our next guest, so I'm excited about that too.
Thanks for checking this out, this episode out please again,
don't forget to subscribe and get with you tomorrow. Hi guys,
Host
Angie Martinez
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