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Edgie Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I Do Say hello everyone. Hello, friends,
say Angie Hi. That's how people talking podcasts. Hey, hi, guys,
we're sipping tea today. This is another edition of Takeaways
Edgie Martinez ir L Takeaways where we talk about some
(00:21):
of your favorite episodes and some of your favorite interviews
that run through this Edgie Martinez ir L platform. Um.
This episode, we are talking about Jay Balvin, who I
absolutely just adore and loved my conversation with him, and
it's like one of the nicest people walking on the
planet Earth. And Nile Simona is here with me, and
Brittany's here and what are some of our takeaways for
(00:44):
this episode? Who's Who's gonna start? You start, Brittany, you
were there? Yeah. First of all, Balvin's great, and I
love how his hair matched the background, so shout out
to him for coming in matching. My favorite part of
the episode's enjoyable the green on. I was into any
of the green emeralds on He's wh Now I'm gonna
(01:04):
go real deep though, Jay Bobbin talked a lot about
like the influence his mom has on him and now
he's a new dad. He has has a kid, and
he was talking about how passing trauma down to your kids,
how he has this innate fear of like that he's
gonna die. So I started thinking about all the things
that like I unconsciously am fearful of, or even little
(01:26):
habits I have team, What did they do to you?
I could run mine down too, but you go first, please.
So this is like a small this is like very minute.
But when I'm in standing in line and someone's like
too close to me in the back, I'll get real
snippy and turn around and be like, yo, do I
know you? Yeah, that is a hundred percent my father.
(01:49):
It's just like a because well my dad's an army vet,
so he's like very paranoid about a lot of shit.
And one of the things is just like he's always
his head is always on a swivel. So he's always
like you need to watch you, looking at you. I'm
in the car, I'm checking. Dang, that's cars following me
too close behind. Like I'm always paying attention. So if
I feel like somebody's too close up to me, I'm like, yo,
(02:11):
what's up? You trying to take something in my pocket, like,
why are you? Why are you on me? Yeah, I
really missed six feet lines. I really missed six feet away.
By the way, everybody's it's just like a not just
the Jay Balvin thing. This is like a people. I
think it's like if we asked the if we have
one of our therapists friends on right now, I think
it it's absolutely guaranteed that you pass on your trauma,
(02:34):
your fears, your bad habits. So for me, yeah, you
go ahead, but you have one, you have one, I
have one. I'm listening. I'm like, dang, this is so true.
And I actually my last relationship is with taught me
this because my partner always pointed it out. And to me,
it's like normal, it's second nature. Don't you hate when
(02:54):
the partner points it out. Though It's different when the
partner for telling I was in the now about it
like it's not a thing, it's not a thing, And
I'm like, oh, the thing is. He calls it gaslighting.
And I'll use the setting as an example. I've seen
you cough. I'm like, Andrew, you need tea. You should
really go get some tea. I'm gonna go get you
(03:16):
the tea. You really didn't care to get the teabout it,
but I'd like, I almost like force it where you're like,
all right, now, I'll just get the tea. Okay. My
dad does that. My mom doesn't. Based in a fear,
it's now it depends if it's like your career and
they're like, why are you doing that? Don't do that?
You shouldn't be doing that. It's like it's gaslighting. Is
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that what gaslighting is? I never really know what gaslight
and it isn't gaslighting When you're like, what is the
definition of gaslighting? Manipulate someone using psychological methods into questioning
their own sanity or powers of reasoning. Maybe that is defastanity,
but it is like convincing you to do what I'm
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trying to get you. That's a habit that you get
from your parents. That's not a fear, okay, because like
what Jay Bobbin was talking about, like his father was
always afraid to be broke. So then all of a sudden,
Jay Bobbin's living his life afraid to be broke. Yeah,
the mother was afraid of like sickness and whatever, and
then those fears get transferred and then he has this
like fear of death, like he was saying, I think
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like my mother had those type of fears of like
I guess anybody, right who grows up with no bread,
you're always afraid to go broke, Right, you're like the
first one. My mother's like the first generation of like
you know, getting out the struggle, the struggle, right, even
though she had her own struggle, but like you know,
she had fears of that going broke. Still today she'd
be like, you don't want to lose your job, But
be like, Mom, I'm all right, I promise, Like if
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I lose my job, I'm getting another job. I'm gonna
be all right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But
like she still has that mentality. I'm like, yo, what
what are you saying to me? That's her fears. But
I guess at some point I probably more i'd probably
shaken off, but I probably younger me got some of
those fears from her. Or I think that money when
is a comment from that generation in general, like across
(05:03):
the board, Yeah, yeah, yeah, money thing is definitely it's
definitely that because that's absolutely my family too. Yeah, but
if you look at our parents who like it could
be relationships, it could be like your your mother or
your father's fears of like abandonment or things like that.
Those definitely transfer to children sometimes, like a single mom
(05:24):
could have all types of fear about men or damn men,
and then you'll see that those same behaviors show up
in their children and their daughter especially. Um. I love
that as a as a parental takeaway from this episode,
I think one of my favorites is obviously the checking
out with people. But yeah, sometimes I ask people like really, like,
(05:45):
how are you are you happy? You know, like how
happy are you? From one to ten? And they're like
tell me, and the start, you know, saying their things
how they feel. I feel sick because I don't have
decent that and I'm like, but I have decent and
I feel and I'm in your same number. Mm So
that how used like the life? You know, life, what
(06:08):
makes you happy? Huh, that's a good way to start.
I might steal that for my podcast. I might ask
people on a scale of one to ten, Yes, how
happy you are? How happy are you? I mean I
totally stole this from him and have used it on
at least three others. So sometimes we take these out
of orders. So we had this one in the can
and him and I had had this conversation and I
used his how happy are you on a scale of
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one to ten to talk to Taraji? Who then that
on that opened up that beautiful conversation that I had
with Taraji. Who else would I ask it to everybody?
As Kelly Clarkson Clarkson, um, I asked her also she
has an interesting story by that can how happy are
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you on a scale of one to ten? Because we
ask people in our lives all the time, you always
have a how are you doing? Good? You okay, yes,
I'm fine. It's now a real opportunity I need to
easily get into a conversation about how you really are.
And when he said that, he felt the way that
people don't really ask him that. I'm like, I don't
know how I reactive he actually told me anything other
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than good, Like if I ask you how are you
doing it? Then you just start breaking I'm a four.
I feel like a four? What now? No? She means
like if she says how you doing yeah, and you
start really telling well, you know, I have this problem
and I was just trying to make small talk. No,
there's a time in a place sometimes small talk is
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your small talking. Yeah. I think what he was saying
it was like the people in your circling, Yeah, the
people who you care about. You should take the time
to be like, ooh you're good. Yeah, you know, really
tap in and really check in. And he's right when
we don't do that. I think that's a really easy
tool that anybody could use in their life to just
check in with people. You could ask your mom that
you can have a family member that you ain't really
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good with. It's it's an easy way to like really
just it's a fun party trick too. By the way,
it's a conversation starter. If you had dinner with like
three or for your close friends and then you start
that conversation, you never know what that opens up. Good
to get people to be honest. Yeah, and how you
feel that's like another level that's beyond and today like
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not how are you? How are you on a scale
of one to ten today? You've gotten some crazy feedback
from that. Yeah, I think people. I think people. I
think it's I don't think it's like that it's such
a crazy feedback. I just think it's a good tool.
I think it's a tool anybody could easily implement into
conversation or into like checking with people, also checking in
with yourself too, like it worked. At the end of
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the day, you're like, hmm, I sit down by myself,
I'm like, how did today go? And I feel like
it was at a five? Or I need to reassess
how how did they went? Why? Why is it at
the five? Why did I let it? Like? Why? Why?
How could it have been an eight? I've been lying
to myself lately. Oh, that's never good. No, but it's
been working. Like I'll just tweet like, today's gonna be
an amazing day. I'm in such a good move, and
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I'll honestly be like, you're gas lighting yourself into a
good day. Yes, it's been working, it's been working. I
think that's a lying to yourself. I think that's like
um setting intention. Yeah, intention, that's it. That's it. You're
not lying by saying it's gonna be a great day.
That's your hope that it's going to be a great day,
my hope and so far has been working out. Tweet
it's a lie. At the end of the day, you go,
that was the greatest day ever? Yeah, and it was not.
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Then that's a lie. Yeah, but saying today it's gonna
be a great day. That's just you trying to be
intentional about what you want the day to be. It's
been working your husband. It really works. Love that for you.
Life is moving. Talk to me about did you have
a Jay Balbin takeaway? Bovin wasn't a typical episode for
you to watch, right? We made you watch it. Definitely
was not gonna watch it. But why why? Because I'm
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oblivious to just Latin culture, like I'm also oblivious to
when I was as human culture. We're talking about it
is human culture. But no, I get it. Me moving
to New York was a big culture shock for me.
Me going to Africa. It was a big quote I'm black,
We're going to Africa. I'm like, wow, this is like
now I like afrobeats, you know what I mean? Yea,
(10:00):
So now you guys are taking me over here. I'm like, okay,
let me tap in is not even from New York. Yeah,
I'm learning and I really honestly, when he was like, yeah,
I respect jay Z and I like what he's done,
I was like, oh, okay, they're tapped in, so I
need to be tapped into because I don't know what's
going on over here. Um, but I respect what he
(10:23):
said about jay Z and trying to do that for Columbia,
like make it easier for people for the Latino Gang,
for the Latino Gang. And I love that name name. Yeah,
I know, I like it like that. Yeah, maybe like
Latino it's like his it's like hist okay, Latino Gang. Yeah,
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that's this thing. Yeah, you know. And honestly, though I'm
not familiar with the music now, I'm not gonna turn
it off, Like I'm more inclined to know the music
now that I know him. Right. Yeah, So that was fly.
The Edsurance story was to for dope. I love ed
sharing so like him, but he ran to get high
with assurance and sharing, do you because the history ended
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up being that's because he don't do good with weed though,
that's because he was doing he was playing in the
park he wasn't supposed to be playing in. One of
the takeaways I thought thought was interesting is he was
talking about when he first talked out, spoke out publicly
about his mental health. That was great that people on
his team were like, why would you do Did he
say his team or just around him or like he
(11:29):
said friends, people immediately around him, or like, why would
you do that? You show weakness, you show you know,
being vulnerable, and people don't want that. Keep it to yourself.
Basically like does it hurt your career? Yeah, because that
was that sounded like that was the fear or the
concern of either his team or his friends or whoever
had been telling him that is that it would hurt
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his career, which I think is that's still a thing
in twenty twenty three. I feel like it helped. It
makes you just seem more relatable and like I can
connect it that you don't need to be took too
squeaky clean. But there are a lot of people who
will advise against it, I guess. But at the end
of the day, the priority is your well being. Yeah,
I understand career is important. You don't want to ruin
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your career, but like priority should be a well being.
Until his point, it's like, how do you save people?
How do you help people if you can't share what
you've learned or share the way you're surviving or thriving
even with some of these issues. Would you do something
like that in the moment of you feeling that low.
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Probably not if I'm being honest, I would as I
was coming out of it where I feel like I
have something to offer, because I would feel like I would,
I would want something to offer. I mean, that's why
I don't say that in a bad way. I commend
him for being able to do that, Like I admire
that me. I don't know, I don't know if I
could do that in it. I feel like certain people
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on the planet, God has different energy in them to
sustain being so transparent and vulnerable. Because there's a lot
of people on the internet like like all right, people
ever hate or whatever. But Brittany Renner, she's so honest
and open about things, and I think like she can
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take the criticism because God just made her that way,
like she like some people feel like they got to
get their message out whether you like it or not.
This is just me, this is who I am. What No,
mat Yeah, So I think like he's probably one of
those people who can share a low moment and be comfortable.
I don't think so you don't think he is. No,
I don't think he's comfortable with the feedback. If you
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if you look at social media, he's been quiet on
social media for a couple of months now, right, And
I think it's because he probably has to take breaks.
I don't know for certain, not just my guests and
knowing his character and knowing how he gets affected by things,
so I don't think it's easy for him. I don't
think he shares and then people attack him or people
say things. He seems like personal. He wears heart like gentle. Yeah,
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like he's got a heart, like you know what I'm saying, like,
and I don't know. I can't I would, I couldn't
imagine that those things wouldn't bother him. You've never felt
like I just gotta get this message off. I'm just
get it off and put my phone down, because everybody's
gonna need a break, whether you're being transparent or not.
On the ground, it's just a lot. Yeah, I don't
think they have a choice. I think when you're that dark,
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you're like looking you're trying to survive, like and so
you're trying to figure a way out, and sometimes when
you used your purpose that's like how Mary, She's like,
I don't have a choice. I wouldn't be alive if
I didn't get some of that stuff out because I
have to get it out. Yeah, and so I think
when you're an artist and a true artist and you
really deal with some of those challenges, I don't think
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he had a choice, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I think probably he felt the calling to do it,
and I commend them for it. Man. Same, Yeah, super dope,
so so transparent. I think to the first point that
you made, I like when he said that being grateful
and loyal is the most important things him like drains
and I think that's like grateful and loyal. Yeahga off
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the story. Those good qualities. Yeah, hard to find grateful
and loyal at the same time in twenty twenty three. Yeah,
point him out. Um, but I like that because, like
you said, it seemed like he went through something so
now he's he puts extra emphasis and value on that. Yeah.
It was a great conversation. He was lovely, he was transparent.
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He's so likable. I love the way the episode starts
where we just fall into this like we were playing
heck the level and um, yeah, I didn't even want
to start the episode. I wanted to just play, to
sit there and play the whole song and watching him
in his little moment. I don't know, I just felt
it was just it was just such a vibe. He's
a vibe. Um. It's going to be interesting to see
(15:47):
what he does next. But I will forever take by
the way, you know, what's the show? What's the late
night show? Oh? Is it? Um? Not foulon? Who's the
other one? Jimmy Kimmel, you know and Jimmy Kimmel hoo.
Every time he runs with a joke and he says, um,
sorry to Matt Damon, we ran out of time. We
couldn't have you on the show, he does like sorry,
he does this joke with Matt Damon. Is it Matt Damon? Yeah,
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So they clearly have a running joke for the whole thing.
I think Jay Balvin or how Happy are You? On
one to ten is gonna stay with this podcast probably forever.
I love that if this podcast continues on for two years,
five years, ten years, you're gonna hear that Jay Balvin
come up. If nothing else from this episode, that question,
that tool that he used to open up dialogue about
(16:28):
how we really feel and what was really going on
with us, It's something that I will take away and
we'll use in this podcast for probably the remainder of
its existence. Yeah, I love it, so I'm grateful for that.
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Edgie Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by I Do Say hello everyone. Hello, friends,
say Angie Hi. That's how people talking podcasts. Hey, hi, guys,
we're sipping tea today. This is another edition of Takeaways
Edgie Martinez ir L Takeaways where we talk about some
(00:21):
of your favorite episodes and some of your favorite interviews
that run through this Edgie Martinez ir L platform. Um.
This episode, we are talking about Jay Balvin, who I
absolutely just adore and loved my conversation with him, and
it's like one of the nicest people walking on the
planet Earth. And Nile Simona is here with me, and
Brittany's here and what are some of our takeaways for
(00:44):
this episode? Who's Who's gonna start? You start, Brittany, you
were there? Yeah. First of all, Balvin's great, and I
love how his hair matched the background, so shout out
to him for coming in matching. My favorite part of
the episode's enjoyable the green on. I was into any
of the green emeralds on He's wh Now I'm gonna
(01:04):
go real deep though, Jay Bobbin talked a lot about
like the influence his mom has on him and now
he's a new dad. He has has a kid, and
he was talking about how passing trauma down to your kids,
how he has this innate fear of like that he's
gonna die. So I started thinking about all the things
that like I unconsciously am fearful of, or even little
(01:26):
habits I have team, What did they do to you?
I could run mine down too, but you go first, please.
So this is like a small this is like very minute.
But when I'm in standing in line and someone's like
too close to me in the back, I'll get real
snippy and turn around and be like, yo, do I
know you? Yeah, that is a hundred percent my father.
(01:49):
It's just like a because well my dad's an army vet,
so he's like very paranoid about a lot of shit.
And one of the things is just like he's always
his head is always on a swivel. So he's always
like you need to watch you, looking at you. I'm
in the car, I'm checking. Dang, that's cars following me
too close behind. Like I'm always paying attention. So if
I feel like somebody's too close up to me, I'm like, yo,
(02:11):
what's up? You trying to take something in my pocket, like,
why are you? Why are you on me? Yeah, I
really missed six feet lines. I really missed six feet away.
By the way, everybody's it's just like a not just
the Jay Balvin thing. This is like a people. I
think it's like if we asked the if we have
one of our therapists friends on right now, I think
it it's absolutely guaranteed that you pass on your trauma,
(02:34):
your fears, your bad habits. So for me, yeah, you
go ahead, but you have one, you have one, I
have one. I'm listening. I'm like, dang, this is so true.
And I actually my last relationship is with taught me
this because my partner always pointed it out. And to me,
it's like normal, it's second nature. Don't you hate when
(02:54):
the partner points it out. Though It's different when the
partner for telling I was in the now about it
like it's not a thing, it's not a thing, And
I'm like, oh, the thing is. He calls it gaslighting.
And I'll use the setting as an example. I've seen
you cough. I'm like, Andrew, you need tea. You should
really go get some tea. I'm gonna go get you
(03:16):
the tea. You really didn't care to get the teabout it,
but I'd like, I almost like force it where you're like,
all right, now, I'll just get the tea. Okay. My
dad does that. My mom doesn't. Based in a fear,
it's now it depends if it's like your career and
they're like, why are you doing that? Don't do that?
You shouldn't be doing that. It's like it's gaslighting. Is
(03:38):
that what gaslighting is? I never really know what gaslight
and it isn't gaslighting When you're like, what is the
definition of gaslighting? Manipulate someone using psychological methods into questioning
their own sanity or powers of reasoning. Maybe that is defastanity,
but it is like convincing you to do what I'm
(03:59):
trying to get you. That's a habit that you get
from your parents. That's not a fear, okay, because like
what Jay Bobbin was talking about, like his father was
always afraid to be broke. So then all of a sudden,
Jay Bobbin's living his life afraid to be broke. Yeah,
the mother was afraid of like sickness and whatever, and
then those fears get transferred and then he has this
like fear of death, like he was saying, I think
(04:22):
like my mother had those type of fears of like
I guess anybody, right who grows up with no bread,
you're always afraid to go broke, Right, you're like the
first one. My mother's like the first generation of like
you know, getting out the struggle, the struggle, right, even
though she had her own struggle, but like you know,
she had fears of that going broke. Still today she'd
be like, you don't want to lose your job, But
be like, Mom, I'm all right, I promise, Like if
(04:42):
I lose my job, I'm getting another job. I'm gonna
be all right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But
like she still has that mentality. I'm like, yo, what
what are you saying to me? That's her fears. But
I guess at some point I probably more i'd probably
shaken off, but I probably younger me got some of
those fears from her. Or I think that money when
is a comment from that generation in general, like across
(05:03):
the board, Yeah, yeah, yeah, money thing is definitely it's
definitely that because that's absolutely my family too. Yeah, but
if you look at our parents who like it could
be relationships, it could be like your your mother or
your father's fears of like abandonment or things like that.
Those definitely transfer to children sometimes, like a single mom
(05:24):
could have all types of fear about men or damn men,
and then you'll see that those same behaviors show up
in their children and their daughter especially. Um. I love
that as a as a parental takeaway from this episode,
I think one of my favorites is obviously the checking
out with people. But yeah, sometimes I ask people like really, like,
(05:45):
how are you are you happy? You know, like how
happy are you? From one to ten? And they're like
tell me, and the start, you know, saying their things
how they feel. I feel sick because I don't have
decent that and I'm like, but I have decent and
I feel and I'm in your same number. Mm So
that how used like the life? You know, life, what
(06:08):
makes you happy? Huh, that's a good way to start.
I might steal that for my podcast. I might ask
people on a scale of one to ten, Yes, how
happy you are? How happy are you? I mean I
totally stole this from him and have used it on
at least three others. So sometimes we take these out
of orders. So we had this one in the can
and him and I had had this conversation and I
used his how happy are you on a scale of
(06:29):
one to ten to talk to Taraji? Who then that
on that opened up that beautiful conversation that I had
with Taraji. Who else would I ask it to everybody?
As Kelly Clarkson Clarkson, um, I asked her also she
has an interesting story by that can how happy are
(06:50):
you on a scale of one to ten? Because we
ask people in our lives all the time, you always
have a how are you doing? Good? You okay, yes,
I'm fine. It's now a real opportunity I need to
easily get into a conversation about how you really are.
And when he said that, he felt the way that
people don't really ask him that. I'm like, I don't
know how I reactive he actually told me anything other
(07:10):
than good, Like if I ask you how are you
doing it? Then you just start breaking I'm a four.
I feel like a four? What now? No? She means
like if she says how you doing yeah, and you
start really telling well, you know, I have this problem
and I was just trying to make small talk. No,
there's a time in a place sometimes small talk is
(07:31):
your small talking. Yeah. I think what he was saying
it was like the people in your circling, Yeah, the
people who you care about. You should take the time
to be like, ooh you're good. Yeah, you know, really
tap in and really check in. And he's right when
we don't do that. I think that's a really easy
tool that anybody could use in their life to just
check in with people. You could ask your mom that
you can have a family member that you ain't really
(07:51):
good with. It's it's an easy way to like really
just it's a fun party trick too. By the way,
it's a conversation starter. If you had dinner with like
three or for your close friends and then you start
that conversation, you never know what that opens up. Good
to get people to be honest. Yeah, and how you
feel that's like another level that's beyond and today like
(08:11):
not how are you? How are you on a scale
of one to ten today? You've gotten some crazy feedback
from that. Yeah, I think people. I think people. I
think it's I don't think it's like that it's such
a crazy feedback. I just think it's a good tool.
I think it's a tool anybody could easily implement into
conversation or into like checking with people, also checking in
with yourself too, like it worked. At the end of
(08:32):
the day, you're like, hmm, I sit down by myself,
I'm like, how did today go? And I feel like
it was at a five? Or I need to reassess
how how did they went? Why? Why is it at
the five? Why did I let it? Like? Why? Why?
How could it have been an eight? I've been lying
to myself lately. Oh, that's never good. No, but it's
been working. Like I'll just tweet like, today's gonna be
an amazing day. I'm in such a good move, and
(08:53):
I'll honestly be like, you're gas lighting yourself into a
good day. Yes, it's been working, it's been working. I
think that's a lying to yourself. I think that's like
um setting intention. Yeah, intention, that's it. That's it. You're
not lying by saying it's gonna be a great day.
That's your hope that it's going to be a great day,
my hope and so far has been working out. Tweet
it's a lie. At the end of the day, you go,
that was the greatest day ever? Yeah, and it was not.
(09:17):
Then that's a lie. Yeah, but saying today it's gonna
be a great day. That's just you trying to be
intentional about what you want the day to be. It's
been working your husband. It really works. Love that for you.
Life is moving. Talk to me about did you have
a Jay Balbin takeaway? Bovin wasn't a typical episode for
you to watch, right? We made you watch it. Definitely
was not gonna watch it. But why why? Because I'm
(09:40):
oblivious to just Latin culture, like I'm also oblivious to
when I was as human culture. We're talking about it
is human culture. But no, I get it. Me moving
to New York was a big culture shock for me.
Me going to Africa. It was a big quote I'm black,
We're going to Africa. I'm like, wow, this is like
now I like afrobeats, you know what I mean? Yea,
(10:00):
So now you guys are taking me over here. I'm like, okay,
let me tap in is not even from New York. Yeah,
I'm learning and I really honestly, when he was like, yeah,
I respect jay Z and I like what he's done,
I was like, oh, okay, they're tapped in, so I
need to be tapped into because I don't know what's
going on over here. Um, but I respect what he
(10:23):
said about jay Z and trying to do that for Columbia,
like make it easier for people for the Latino Gang,
for the Latino Gang. And I love that name name. Yeah,
I know, I like it like that. Yeah, maybe like
Latino it's like his it's like hist okay, Latino Gang. Yeah,
(10:45):
that's this thing. Yeah, you know. And honestly, though I'm
not familiar with the music now, I'm not gonna turn
it off, Like I'm more inclined to know the music
now that I know him. Right. Yeah, So that was fly.
The Edsurance story was to for dope. I love ed
sharing so like him, but he ran to get high
with assurance and sharing, do you because the history ended
(11:08):
up being that's because he don't do good with weed though,
that's because he was doing he was playing in the
park he wasn't supposed to be playing in. One of
the takeaways I thought thought was interesting is he was
talking about when he first talked out, spoke out publicly
about his mental health. That was great that people on
his team were like, why would you do Did he
say his team or just around him or like he
(11:29):
said friends, people immediately around him, or like, why would
you do that? You show weakness, you show you know,
being vulnerable, and people don't want that. Keep it to yourself.
Basically like does it hurt your career? Yeah, because that
was that sounded like that was the fear or the
concern of either his team or his friends or whoever
had been telling him that is that it would hurt
(11:51):
his career, which I think is that's still a thing
in twenty twenty three. I feel like it helped. It
makes you just seem more relatable and like I can
connect it that you don't need to be took too
squeaky clean. But there are a lot of people who
will advise against it, I guess. But at the end
of the day, the priority is your well being. Yeah,
I understand career is important. You don't want to ruin
(12:12):
your career, but like priority should be a well being.
Until his point, it's like, how do you save people?
How do you help people if you can't share what
you've learned or share the way you're surviving or thriving
even with some of these issues. Would you do something
like that in the moment of you feeling that low.
(12:32):
Probably not if I'm being honest, I would as I
was coming out of it where I feel like I
have something to offer, because I would feel like I would,
I would want something to offer. I mean, that's why
I don't say that in a bad way. I commend
him for being able to do that, Like I admire
that me. I don't know, I don't know if I
could do that in it. I feel like certain people
(12:54):
on the planet, God has different energy in them to
sustain being so transparent and vulnerable. Because there's a lot
of people on the internet like like all right, people
ever hate or whatever. But Brittany Renner, she's so honest
and open about things, and I think like she can
(13:14):
take the criticism because God just made her that way,
like she like some people feel like they got to
get their message out whether you like it or not.
This is just me, this is who I am. What No,
mat Yeah, So I think like he's probably one of
those people who can share a low moment and be comfortable.
I don't think so you don't think he is. No,
I don't think he's comfortable with the feedback. If you
(13:35):
if you look at social media, he's been quiet on
social media for a couple of months now, right, And
I think it's because he probably has to take breaks.
I don't know for certain, not just my guests and
knowing his character and knowing how he gets affected by things,
so I don't think it's easy for him. I don't
think he shares and then people attack him or people
say things. He seems like personal. He wears heart like gentle. Yeah,
(13:57):
like he's got a heart, like you know what I'm saying, like,
and I don't know. I can't I would, I couldn't
imagine that those things wouldn't bother him. You've never felt
like I just gotta get this message off. I'm just
get it off and put my phone down, because everybody's
gonna need a break, whether you're being transparent or not.
On the ground, it's just a lot. Yeah, I don't
think they have a choice. I think when you're that dark,
(14:17):
you're like looking you're trying to survive, like and so
you're trying to figure a way out, and sometimes when
you used your purpose that's like how Mary, She's like,
I don't have a choice. I wouldn't be alive if
I didn't get some of that stuff out because I
have to get it out. Yeah, and so I think
when you're an artist and a true artist and you
really deal with some of those challenges, I don't think
(14:40):
he had a choice, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I think probably he felt the calling to do it,
and I commend them for it. Man. Same, Yeah, super dope,
so so transparent. I think to the first point that
you made, I like when he said that being grateful
and loyal is the most important things him like drains
and I think that's like grateful and loyal. Yeahga off
(15:04):
the story. Those good qualities. Yeah, hard to find grateful
and loyal at the same time in twenty twenty three. Yeah,
point him out. Um, but I like that because, like
you said, it seemed like he went through something so
now he's he puts extra emphasis and value on that. Yeah.
It was a great conversation. He was lovely, he was transparent.
(15:26):
He's so likable. I love the way the episode starts
where we just fall into this like we were playing
heck the level and um, yeah, I didn't even want
to start the episode. I wanted to just play, to
sit there and play the whole song and watching him
in his little moment. I don't know, I just felt
it was just it was just such a vibe. He's
a vibe. Um. It's going to be interesting to see
(15:47):
what he does next. But I will forever take by
the way, you know, what's the show? What's the late
night show? Oh? Is it? Um? Not foulon? Who's the
other one? Jimmy Kimmel, you know and Jimmy Kimmel hoo.
Every time he runs with a joke and he says, um,
sorry to Matt Damon, we ran out of time. We
couldn't have you on the show, he does like sorry,
he does this joke with Matt Damon. Is it Matt Damon? Yeah,
(16:07):
So they clearly have a running joke for the whole thing.
I think Jay Balvin or how Happy are You? On
one to ten is gonna stay with this podcast probably forever.
I love that if this podcast continues on for two years,
five years, ten years, you're gonna hear that Jay Balvin
come up. If nothing else from this episode, that question,
that tool that he used to open up dialogue about
(16:28):
how we really feel and what was really going on
with us, It's something that I will take away and
we'll use in this podcast for probably the remainder of
its existence. Yeah, I love it, so I'm grateful for that.
That's a gym. Anyway, if you haven't watched or listened
to the episode, you could do that now. You can
watch it on my YouTube page, Edgie Martinez IRL. Make
sure you subscribe, and of course you can listen where
(16:51):
all podcasts are heard. So thank you guys for rocking
on us. We appreciate you. Always subscribe and we'll catch
you on the next step.
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