May 30, 2023 • 19 mins
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In this week’s #TakeAways episode, Join Angie and IRL Producer, Brittany as they dive deeper into the conversation with Janelle Moanae and share their personal takeaways.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Edge Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by Adu sa Hey. Everybody, welcome back to
another edition of Edge Martinez IRL Takeaways, where we discussed
some of our amazing conversations that we have with our guests.
This takeaway episode is about our Janelle Money conversation. First
(00:22):
of all, we shot this interview. By the way, Brittany
is here. Brittany Ortine. This is my show producer, sometimes director,
sometimes catering, sometimes booking. All the things we loved Janelle.
The night before we shot this interview, I went to
a listening session for her upcoming album that the label
(00:44):
had invited me too. It's like a really nice rooms,
you know some label people, which usually those things are
like stuffing me and like everybody acts too good to
vibe out to anything. So Janelle walks into the event.
Were you there with me? Yes? Oh, you were there.
It was all read in the room. There was there
was food, It was a vibe. Immediately, there was a vibe.
(01:05):
You walked in the drinks and the setting was good.
And then Janelle shows up to the thing with her
crew and they're performing and singing and vibing to every song.
It was. I didn't feel the need to want to
get up. It was so entertaining just watching them. Yeah,
that she sucked me right into like I'm I'm in,
I'm in on the album No matter what, whether I
(01:26):
was interviewing her or not, she just takes you to
this like world and it's very sexy, and she's an
amazing performer, and she had just come off of Knives Out,
and so you know, she's a movie star, musician, star,
all the things. But I honestly really didn't know much
about her human side, Like I had never really I'd
interviewed her once on the radio before, but it was
(01:48):
a very kind of like about your project type of interview,
and so you know, it was interested to see what
was gonna come out of it. I really didn't have
much of an agenda except to say that I really
liked the song float, and you know, she what else.
She appears to be so free, and she appears to
(02:11):
be comfortable in her sexuality, more so now lately than ever,
which people don't always know how to receive, and so
I knew that those kind of things would come up,
but I don't know, I was kind of surprised. I
feel like we I feel like she came in. I
don't know. I feel like it was one of those
times where I didn't necessarily lead the conversation, like a
(02:34):
conversation just kind of happened. And she has so many
kind of ideas about life and where she is in
her life that she just came to the table with
stuff to say. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
We always love that, right right, As people who do
a podcast, we like when people come with things to say.
She pulled out her phone and she had notes in
her formation affirmations that she could share, which were really good.
I love the toast that we that we did to
the lives.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We lead, to the dreams we chase, to the dreams
we chase, to the moments that we make, and to
the fucked up shit we can't rate to.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
The moments we make and fuck them shit we can't rape.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Cheers to you.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So yes, I feel like that that's a great toast.
I feel like if I was drunk somewhere, that toast
would be really good to the fuck that shit we get.
It improves with the liquor. Yeah, I feel like I
want to try that somewhere at some point. One of
the takeaways I had was when we're talking about her sexuality.
(03:31):
And it's funny because I was reluctant to bring it
up for the reasons I mentioned during the pod about like,
I get it, she doesn't want to be the poster
girl for the for you know, whatever the Pride conversation
of the week is. She may not always feel like
talking about that every day. It's like any of us.
It's like, imagine you had to talk about your relationships
(03:52):
with your significant other, gay, straight, whatever you are, Like,
I don't want to do that all the time. Like
if I had to be the poster girl for like
heterosexual women, and every interview I ever did, they were like,
so being a heterosexual woman to mess up when you
see a penis? How do you you know what I'm
I'm just saying, like, if I had to be the
(04:13):
poster woman for heterosexual women, that shit would get on
my nerves. So I understand her being reluctant to want
to always have to be that person, but at the
same time not hiding from it. She's free, she is
who she is.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I'm proud to be queer, Like I'm proud to be
you know, I've been in polyamorous relationships. I have been
in monogamous relationships, like I honor my journey. You know
what I'm saying, and but speaking about it sometimes does
come with a lot of pressure. It comes with a
lot of pressure to represent. You know, you're that one,
(04:53):
so you need to say the right things all that.
I don't put that pressure myself. I speak for me.
I love though, that people can identify with what it
is that I'm saying and they feel empowered, they feel seen.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
That's important.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yes, I remember where I was in my life, and
I remember loving Lauren Hill. I felt seen. I felt like, ah,
I love one, this is where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It was interesting to me for her to hear her
talk about that and to hear her say that she
is willing to do that and be the post a
child when it's important, when laws are being made that
directly hurt people, you know, yeah, her community or that
are just wrong, you know, and that she will take
(05:38):
the stand and be the post a child when when
it's needed. I just I don't know the way she
put that out, It was so clear about how she
feels about.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, we could play that part so you don't have
to elaborate as much.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, Yeah, I like that. I think it's something to
think about as people do interviews like what. I think
that's the thing because there are conversations about other artists
and other people that don't come out, and it's almost
like a why don't you come out? But I get it,
(06:15):
I get it. It's your choice. I mean you have to.
It's it's every individual's choice about who they want to
be publicly, what they want to share about their lives.
And you know, I respect her for being for taking
the stand when it means something, and it's her choice
to not to when she don't when she don't really do.
I'm on it, but she says, definitely seems free. That
(06:37):
was the theme free ask motherfucker was the theme of
the conversation. When I asked her what she wants to
be remembered by, what she wants her legacy to be,
she says she wanted to be remembered or she wants
to be known as a free ass motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
As being in the room and then listening back as
many times as I have, I took with me the
part about making my inner voice being the biggest voice.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
God, I love that part. It just.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I have to remember and remind myself that my inner voice,
Like what I think about me is the alpha, is
the omega. It's nothing that another person can tell me
about me that I don't know. That you don't know
me more than I know me. You can't You don't
define my joy or my happiness. Does that make sense? Like,
it's great when people are complimenting you and giving you
(07:28):
love or criticizing you, which is always not so great, right,
It's not it don't feel good, right, But how I
think about me, my inner voice is the loudest voice
inside of me, in my head. It's it's the final
say bars.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We say those things, but it's important to remember them
and actually use them, right, because there's a lot of
things that we say that we know we should do.
But it's another thing to Like when you're in your
quiet moment and somebody said something to you about you,
you are internalizing it and making it true that you
do have the power to stop yourself and be like,
(08:06):
wait a minute, am I feeling about it this way
about myself because I really feel that way about myself?
Or am I feeling this way about myself through the
eyes of somebody else? And that's I think worth taking
a minute to check in on yourself about like anything
that hurts you, what you're feeling insecure about, or I
don't know what else could be a thing that somebody
could tell you about you that you don't know about yourself,
(08:28):
like you're not smart enough to do that job, or
people don't see you that way, or you gotta nurture
you're that inner love. Yeah, if somebody tells me maybe
you're depressed, and somebody says saying telling you you're lazy,
it's because you're lazy, you don't want to go anywhere.
It's for you to tell yourself you're actually not lazy.
You're just in the middle of going through something that
(08:49):
you're going to get through and you're going to get
done with. You have Like you could literally change the
conversation that you have with yourself and be the loudest
person in your in your head, hopefully in a positive.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Way, right, because you could also feed yourself garbage or
narratives that are stopping you or.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Holding you back or making you sad, or And it's like,
what is the story we tell ourselves? She talks about
that too in this episode. What is the story we
tell ourselves? About ourselves, and that's super powerful, especially when
you really take the time to think about it and
execute it in your own life. It really can make
a difference on just how you move through the world
and what you can accomplish and all that. So I
(09:30):
love that we got into that. And also, you know
what too when she talks about being a perfectionist, because
oh my god, I know how she feels. And I
have gotten much better at this. Brittany, even in this
how many years have you known me?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Now?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Five?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Even in the just the five years that you know me,
you see a difference.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I've seen the differ version of you.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So imagine me ten years before you know me. Like
in the nineties when I was running around these street,
I was a savage because I was like, we gotta
do it like this, gotta be like I was just yeah,
vision and it would frustrate me when somebody didn't execute
and or. And then I learned, like we talked about
in this, that sometimes there's beauty and like it not
going exactly how you planned, and you ruin it by
(10:10):
trying to make it perfect. Nobody wants perfect, well maybe
we do, but imperfection is actually more interesting, which is
what Janelle was saying, and so that journey and the
evolution and the evolution and the journey, and also truthfully
for me, when I started to realize that and let
go of some of the oh, it like relieves you
(10:32):
of pressure. When you when you give yourself the permission
to not be perfect or the permission to like let
things be what they are, like do your best, and
then like let it go, it just relieves you of pressure.
You can enjoy the moments better. And sometimes magic happens
that you didn't expect. When you're holding onto something so
(10:52):
tight and it could only be this way, you miss
out on some unexpected magic that could have happened in
the in the flaw. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, So I loved that because I have I have
for myself. I don't know, I've just gotten better in
that space and I think it's important. And so for
her talking about that was dope. That was definitely a
takeaway from me and people And in terms of like
what I've seen reaction from you guys and some of
the comments and stuff. A lot of people I know
reacted to the clip about her saying it's okay to
(11:23):
be a beginner, start something new. Stop acting like you
know everything. You don't know everything. Ask questions, be curious, learn,
fall down, mess up, be whacking something. I'm playing golf now,
I'm terrible. I love it. I play all the time,
and I'm getting like the tiniest increments getting better. I
(11:44):
never in my life thought that this would be something
that I will enjoy doing, but I found it. I
like it. I'm terrible, I'm a beginner, and I'm having
so much joy in being a beginner that that I
wouldn't have had if I'm like an old version of
me would have been like, I'm not doing that. I'm
gonna be terrible at that, and I wouldn't even have
the joy of like learning something new, because I would
(12:05):
have gotten in my own way of like I'm not
good at that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And even when you're a master or you think you've
mastered something, there's always more levels to unlock. Levels to this,
there's always else to unlock.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's so true, And don't be afraid and enjoy that process.
Try something new, be a beginner at something. There should
always be something. I think there should always be something
in your life that you're a beginner at. Otherwise, if
there's not that means you're trying nothing new. That means
you're not pushing yourself at all. You're in just a quiet,
little comfortable box of something you've done over and over again,
(12:37):
nothing new, nothing fresh.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Something boring.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Be a beginner, Be a beginner. And so I love
that you guys resonated to that clip. Do we play
the clip? Let's play it.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Don't be afraid to be a beginner. Yes, you don't
have to have everything fucking figured out all the time.
You could be a beginner, a beginner. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
The only way to come something new, it's the only
way if.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You have it figured out. Versus when you don't, you're
a conflict. You've sold yourself a dream that's not a reality.
You're a beginner. Own it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I have one more. We talked about it a little
bit on this episode. It's actually like a running theme
because we also talked about it with Kelly Clarkson, and
I brought it up in this interview with her. When
Kelly Clarkson her interview, she talks about saying she's on
vacation even if she's working. She's like, Okay, this week,
we're on vacation, but she's still working, so she'll stop
at the beach on her way home, or she'll do
(13:31):
something that you would do on vacation, just in real life,
like because you know, when you go on vacation, you
put yourself in a mode where you go outside of
your box and you look at the world and you
maybe take a walk on the beach, and you do
things on vacation that you don't do at home. So
Kelly has this thing where she says she's on vacation
even though she's working to find those moments. And then
(13:54):
so Janelle and I talked about that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Work work, work, right, But I think at a certain point, yeah,
we got to say how do we redesign a life
to where we're working and we're also making it fun,
Like that's what I'm on. I've had meetings with my team.
I'm like, listen, this has gotta be fun. Like where's
the DJ on the set or the photo shoot? If
we're doing meetings, we need in person, where the drinks at,
(14:21):
Like you need to be smoking to commune. Okay, go
get your weeed whatever you need to do. We're running.
We're creating our own worlds.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Right Listen, that's not a small thing. People we get
so caught up chasing stuff, I on the prize, hustling,
doing all those things. But it's like you're supposed to
be having fun. You're supposed to be your life is
supposed to have joy in it. So whatever the work is,
(14:51):
it really is better if you can figure out a
way to add some joy and some fun into it,
because this is the only life we have. And yes,
we have to work, and we love to work, and
we have goals and we have these things. But like,
don't forget to like, you know, put your feet in
the water or whatever, whatever your thing is, get a massage,
or like she said, have alcohol at the meeting if
(15:12):
you can. If you're in a business where you could
do that. I know not everybody can, but whatever. Just
the concept of that, I think is uh is interesting,
and that something that I could take away from myself
because I don't think I do that enough. I sometimes try,
but not enough. Like, uh, be it on vacation while
I'm working. Your life is a vacation, is it?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
No? No, no, I'm saying you're she said.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, it's not. My life is not a vacation.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No. I'm implementing the ideology that you are. This is
a matrix. Since you are creating whatever version of life
you want, it is out there for the taking. You
are capable of having that, it is not without reach.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yes, this is the matrix. She definitely said that a
couple of times in well. Overall, I love where she's at.
I love that she was so free, and I got
a sense that she actually and really enjoyed the conversation too.
I don't know, it was just it was a lovely experience.
She's a she's a phenomenal artist, and I learned a
lot from our conversation. I hope you guys did too.
(16:15):
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(16:35):
and here, and thanks guys,
Edge Martinez in Real Life podcast. This episode and conversation
is powered by Adu sa Hey. Everybody, welcome back to
another edition of Edge Martinez IRL Takeaways, where we discussed
some of our amazing conversations that we have with our guests.
This takeaway episode is about our Janelle Money conversation. First
(00:22):
of all, we shot this interview. By the way, Brittany
is here. Brittany Ortine. This is my show producer, sometimes director,
sometimes catering, sometimes booking. All the things we loved Janelle.
The night before we shot this interview, I went to
a listening session for her upcoming album that the label
(00:44):
had invited me too. It's like a really nice rooms,
you know some label people, which usually those things are
like stuffing me and like everybody acts too good to
vibe out to anything. So Janelle walks into the event.
Were you there with me? Yes? Oh, you were there.
It was all read in the room. There was there
was food, It was a vibe. Immediately, there was a vibe.
(01:05):
You walked in the drinks and the setting was good.
And then Janelle shows up to the thing with her
crew and they're performing and singing and vibing to every song.
It was. I didn't feel the need to want to
get up. It was so entertaining just watching them. Yeah,
that she sucked me right into like I'm I'm in,
I'm in on the album No matter what, whether I
(01:26):
was interviewing her or not, she just takes you to
this like world and it's very sexy, and she's an
amazing performer, and she had just come off of Knives Out,
and so you know, she's a movie star, musician, star,
all the things. But I honestly really didn't know much
about her human side, Like I had never really I'd
interviewed her once on the radio before, but it was
(01:48):
a very kind of like about your project type of interview,
and so you know, it was interested to see what
was gonna come out of it. I really didn't have
much of an agenda except to say that I really
liked the song float, and you know, she what else.
She appears to be so free, and she appears to
(02:11):
be comfortable in her sexuality, more so now lately than ever,
which people don't always know how to receive, and so
I knew that those kind of things would come up,
but I don't know, I was kind of surprised. I
feel like we I feel like she came in. I
don't know. I feel like it was one of those
times where I didn't necessarily lead the conversation, like a
(02:34):
conversation just kind of happened. And she has so many
kind of ideas about life and where she is in
her life that she just came to the table with
stuff to say. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
We always love that, right right, As people who do
a podcast, we like when people come with things to say.
She pulled out her phone and she had notes in
her formation affirmations that she could share, which were really good.
I love the toast that we that we did to
the lives.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We lead, to the dreams we chase, to the dreams
we chase, to the moments that we make, and to
the fucked up shit we can't rate to.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
The moments we make and fuck them shit we can't rape.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Cheers to you.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So yes, I feel like that that's a great toast.
I feel like if I was drunk somewhere, that toast
would be really good to the fuck that shit we get.
It improves with the liquor. Yeah, I feel like I
want to try that somewhere at some point. One of
the takeaways I had was when we're talking about her sexuality.
(03:31):
And it's funny because I was reluctant to bring it
up for the reasons I mentioned during the pod about like,
I get it, she doesn't want to be the poster
girl for the for you know, whatever the Pride conversation
of the week is. She may not always feel like
talking about that every day. It's like any of us.
It's like, imagine you had to talk about your relationships
(03:52):
with your significant other, gay, straight, whatever you are, Like,
I don't want to do that all the time. Like
if I had to be the poster girl for like
heterosexual women, and every interview I ever did, they were like,
so being a heterosexual woman to mess up when you
see a penis? How do you you know what I'm
I'm just saying, like, if I had to be the
(04:13):
poster woman for heterosexual women, that shit would get on
my nerves. So I understand her being reluctant to want
to always have to be that person, but at the
same time not hiding from it. She's free, she is
who she is.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I'm proud to be queer, Like I'm proud to be
you know, I've been in polyamorous relationships. I have been
in monogamous relationships, like I honor my journey. You know
what I'm saying, and but speaking about it sometimes does
come with a lot of pressure. It comes with a
lot of pressure to represent. You know, you're that one,
(04:53):
so you need to say the right things all that.
I don't put that pressure myself. I speak for me.
I love though, that people can identify with what it
is that I'm saying and they feel empowered, they feel seen.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
That's important.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Yes, I remember where I was in my life, and
I remember loving Lauren Hill. I felt seen. I felt like, ah,
I love one, this is where I'm at.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It was interesting to me for her to hear her
talk about that and to hear her say that she
is willing to do that and be the post a
child when it's important, when laws are being made that
directly hurt people, you know, yeah, her community or that
are just wrong, you know, and that she will take
(05:38):
the stand and be the post a child when when
it's needed. I just I don't know the way she
put that out, It was so clear about how she
feels about.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, we could play that part so you don't have
to elaborate as much.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, Yeah, I like that. I think it's something to
think about as people do interviews like what. I think
that's the thing because there are conversations about other artists
and other people that don't come out, and it's almost
like a why don't you come out? But I get it,
(06:15):
I get it. It's your choice. I mean you have to.
It's it's every individual's choice about who they want to
be publicly, what they want to share about their lives.
And you know, I respect her for being for taking
the stand when it means something, and it's her choice
to not to when she don't when she don't really do.
I'm on it, but she says, definitely seems free. That
(06:37):
was the theme free ask motherfucker was the theme of
the conversation. When I asked her what she wants to
be remembered by, what she wants her legacy to be,
she says she wanted to be remembered or she wants
to be known as a free ass motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
As being in the room and then listening back as
many times as I have, I took with me the
part about making my inner voice being the biggest voice.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
God, I love that part. It just.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I have to remember and remind myself that my inner voice,
Like what I think about me is the alpha, is
the omega. It's nothing that another person can tell me
about me that I don't know. That you don't know
me more than I know me. You can't You don't
define my joy or my happiness. Does that make sense? Like,
it's great when people are complimenting you and giving you
(07:28):
love or criticizing you, which is always not so great, right,
It's not it don't feel good, right, But how I
think about me, my inner voice is the loudest voice
inside of me, in my head. It's it's the final
say bars.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
We say those things, but it's important to remember them
and actually use them, right, because there's a lot of
things that we say that we know we should do.
But it's another thing to Like when you're in your
quiet moment and somebody said something to you about you,
you are internalizing it and making it true that you
do have the power to stop yourself and be like,
(08:06):
wait a minute, am I feeling about it this way
about myself because I really feel that way about myself?
Or am I feeling this way about myself through the
eyes of somebody else? And that's I think worth taking
a minute to check in on yourself about like anything
that hurts you, what you're feeling insecure about, or I
don't know what else could be a thing that somebody
could tell you about you that you don't know about yourself,
(08:28):
like you're not smart enough to do that job, or
people don't see you that way, or you gotta nurture
you're that inner love. Yeah, if somebody tells me maybe
you're depressed, and somebody says saying telling you you're lazy,
it's because you're lazy, you don't want to go anywhere.
It's for you to tell yourself you're actually not lazy.
You're just in the middle of going through something that
(08:49):
you're going to get through and you're going to get
done with. You have Like you could literally change the
conversation that you have with yourself and be the loudest
person in your in your head, hopefully in a positive.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Way, right, because you could also feed yourself garbage or
narratives that are stopping you or.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Holding you back or making you sad, or And it's like,
what is the story we tell ourselves? She talks about
that too in this episode. What is the story we
tell ourselves? About ourselves, and that's super powerful, especially when
you really take the time to think about it and
execute it in your own life. It really can make
a difference on just how you move through the world
and what you can accomplish and all that. So I
(09:30):
love that we got into that. And also, you know
what too when she talks about being a perfectionist, because
oh my god, I know how she feels. And I
have gotten much better at this. Brittany, even in this
how many years have you known me?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Now?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Five?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Even in the just the five years that you know me,
you see a difference.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I've seen the differ version of you.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So imagine me ten years before you know me. Like
in the nineties when I was running around these street,
I was a savage because I was like, we gotta
do it like this, gotta be like I was just yeah,
vision and it would frustrate me when somebody didn't execute
and or. And then I learned, like we talked about
in this, that sometimes there's beauty and like it not
going exactly how you planned, and you ruin it by
(10:10):
trying to make it perfect. Nobody wants perfect, well maybe
we do, but imperfection is actually more interesting, which is
what Janelle was saying, and so that journey and the
evolution and the evolution and the journey, and also truthfully
for me, when I started to realize that and let
go of some of the oh, it like relieves you
(10:32):
of pressure. When you when you give yourself the permission
to not be perfect or the permission to like let
things be what they are, like do your best, and
then like let it go, it just relieves you of pressure.
You can enjoy the moments better. And sometimes magic happens
that you didn't expect. When you're holding onto something so
(10:52):
tight and it could only be this way, you miss
out on some unexpected magic that could have happened in
the in the flaw. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, So I loved that because I have I have
for myself. I don't know, I've just gotten better in
that space and I think it's important. And so for
her talking about that was dope. That was definitely a
takeaway from me and people And in terms of like
what I've seen reaction from you guys and some of
the comments and stuff. A lot of people I know
reacted to the clip about her saying it's okay to
(11:23):
be a beginner, start something new. Stop acting like you
know everything. You don't know everything. Ask questions, be curious, learn,
fall down, mess up, be whacking something. I'm playing golf now,
I'm terrible. I love it. I play all the time,
and I'm getting like the tiniest increments getting better. I
(11:44):
never in my life thought that this would be something
that I will enjoy doing, but I found it. I
like it. I'm terrible, I'm a beginner, and I'm having
so much joy in being a beginner that that I
wouldn't have had if I'm like an old version of
me would have been like, I'm not doing that. I'm
gonna be terrible at that, and I wouldn't even have
the joy of like learning something new, because I would
(12:05):
have gotten in my own way of like I'm not
good at that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And even when you're a master or you think you've
mastered something, there's always more levels to unlock. Levels to this,
there's always else to unlock.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It's so true, And don't be afraid and enjoy that process.
Try something new, be a beginner at something. There should
always be something. I think there should always be something
in your life that you're a beginner at. Otherwise, if
there's not that means you're trying nothing new. That means
you're not pushing yourself at all. You're in just a quiet,
little comfortable box of something you've done over and over again,
(12:37):
nothing new, nothing fresh.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Something boring.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Be a beginner, Be a beginner. And so I love
that you guys resonated to that clip. Do we play
the clip? Let's play it.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Don't be afraid to be a beginner. Yes, you don't
have to have everything fucking figured out all the time.
You could be a beginner, a beginner. It's fine.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
The only way to come something new, it's the only
way if.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You have it figured out. Versus when you don't, you're
a conflict. You've sold yourself a dream that's not a reality.
You're a beginner. Own it.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
I have one more. We talked about it a little
bit on this episode. It's actually like a running theme
because we also talked about it with Kelly Clarkson, and
I brought it up in this interview with her. When
Kelly Clarkson her interview, she talks about saying she's on
vacation even if she's working. She's like, Okay, this week,
we're on vacation, but she's still working, so she'll stop
at the beach on her way home, or she'll do
(13:31):
something that you would do on vacation, just in real life,
like because you know, when you go on vacation, you
put yourself in a mode where you go outside of
your box and you look at the world and you
maybe take a walk on the beach, and you do
things on vacation that you don't do at home. So
Kelly has this thing where she says she's on vacation
even though she's working to find those moments. And then
(13:54):
so Janelle and I talked about that a little bit.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Work work, work, right, But I think at a certain point, yeah,
we got to say how do we redesign a life
to where we're working and we're also making it fun,
Like that's what I'm on. I've had meetings with my team.
I'm like, listen, this has gotta be fun. Like where's
the DJ on the set or the photo shoot? If
we're doing meetings, we need in person, where the drinks at,
(14:21):
Like you need to be smoking to commune. Okay, go
get your weeed whatever you need to do. We're running.
We're creating our own worlds.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Right Listen, that's not a small thing. People we get
so caught up chasing stuff, I on the prize, hustling,
doing all those things. But it's like you're supposed to
be having fun. You're supposed to be your life is
supposed to have joy in it. So whatever the work is,
(14:51):
it really is better if you can figure out a
way to add some joy and some fun into it,
because this is the only life we have. And yes,
we have to work, and we love to work, and
we have goals and we have these things. But like,
don't forget to like, you know, put your feet in
the water or whatever, whatever your thing is, get a massage,
or like she said, have alcohol at the meeting if
(15:12):
you can. If you're in a business where you could
do that. I know not everybody can, but whatever. Just
the concept of that, I think is uh is interesting,
and that something that I could take away from myself
because I don't think I do that enough. I sometimes try,
but not enough. Like, uh, be it on vacation while
I'm working. Your life is a vacation, is it?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
No? No, no, I'm saying you're she said.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, it's not. My life is not a vacation.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No. I'm implementing the ideology that you are. This is
a matrix. Since you are creating whatever version of life
you want, it is out there for the taking. You
are capable of having that, it is not without reach.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yes, this is the matrix. She definitely said that a
couple of times in well. Overall, I love where she's at.
I love that she was so free, and I got
a sense that she actually and really enjoyed the conversation too.
I don't know, it was just it was a lovely experience.
She's a she's a phenomenal artist, and I learned a
lot from our conversation. I hope you guys did too.
(16:15):
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