Kristin and Bridget are giving us fascinating insights about Natasha’s first appearance on Sex and the City. A stolen Rolodex, crabs (not the good kind), age differences, Carrie’s first encounter with Natasha, and an iconic outfit that fans still recreate today.Plus, we get a sneak peak into a future episode and behind the scenes info on an epic move by Bridget/Natasha. And, inside details of her appearance years later when Natasha returns for And Just Like That.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
you a Charlotte? Welcome back, everybody too, are you a Charlotte?
We are back with Bridget moynihan and we are going
to break down the episode that she first appeared in,
twenty something Girls versus thirty something Women, which is kind
(00:21):
of funny because twenty somethings and thirty somethings they're not
really that different, but apparently at the time we really
felt like they were. But now when I look back
at the episode, I feel very much relating to like
fifty something women and twenty seven you know, like the
generational divide is so great, right because we all remember
(00:42):
analog world. They don't know anything about analog world. Like
I have to say to my kids all the time,
like they'll say, like, what did you watch on the iPad, Mommy,
And I'm like, there was no iPad, children, It was
black and white. There were three TV stations. They look
at you like you are insane, Like it's so interesting
(01:03):
the you know, the fast paced way that the change
is happening, I guess. And then obviously the generations are
very different, which is discussed a lot, but I think
probably on purpose and should be discussed some more. And
when I watched this, I was reminded of the fact
that at the time, we thought that thirty something women,
(01:23):
first of all, were really old, right, which is funny
because it's not old at all. But the twenty something girls,
they were a bit of a mess in this episode.
So this is the episode where we see at the
party and one of the things that I remember and
I don't even remember the names, and I don't think
I should probably say that even if I could. But
you know, Samantha's a publicist, and her storyline is that
(01:46):
she's a publicist. She has an assistant who's a terrible assistant. Okay,
this girl's yacking on the phone, you know, relatively disrespectful
to her boss, doesn't hang up. Samantha is like, no, oh,
I actually mean it. You need to do your job,
and so this girl quits and takes Samantha's rolodex. That
was all based on real people who if I wanted to,
(02:09):
I could find their names and tell you, but I
think I probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right, I can imagine it. I feel like that was
kind of the thing you do. I'm pretty sure you do.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
It was a real thing, and I remember like all
of New York was like but then this person who
took the Rolodex did really, really well. It was like
kind of one of the up and comers and is
now like a long term person in the PR world.
But the funny thing at the time of the storyline,
you know, because they were always stealing stuff, you know,
and trying to change it a little bit whatever, Now
(02:40):
that they really cared, I don't think these young girls
are a mess. They're just a terrible mess. Because as
this girl who takes Samantha's Rolodex and then eventually is
throwing the rodeo party where we initially meet Natasha, everything's
going wrong and she doesn't know what to do and
she's potentially coked up, which is also in her and
(03:01):
then Samantha has to save the day, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, and the best part about that she introduces your
young fling.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Totally to the crab guy who antson Mountain, who we
do still want to have on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I'm really sorry that you.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Sometimes I've been having some trouble getting the guys to
come on, not all of them, but like sometimes when
I rewatched the episode, I kind of understand why. I mean,
it's like kind of ick and also not only let's
back up, so Charlotte has, for some reason that we
don't even get into, just decided she's going to try
to pretend like she's twenty seven in this whole episode,
(03:37):
which I think is so funny. Or twenty six. I
can't even remember, and I only this is again vague,
vague memories. I remember that we were in far Rockaway
and I was very mad personally inside me that we
were not at the Hamptons, because I was like, this
place is sad okay, no fence to Far Rockway, but
you know, yeah, it was not glamorous.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It was not what you had in your mind, not.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
At all what I had in my mind. And we
had to work hard to make those parties look nice,
you know. And the beach doesn't look like the Hampton's beach.
But never mind. So we're in Far Rockaway and I
think we all had to take those eighteen seater buses out,
you know, those buses, like it's not a bus bus
but like a van okay, sixteen sixteen seater, sixteen eighteen seater,
(04:20):
like we were all together, Maybe not, sir Jessica but
everybody else, you know what I mean? It was it
was a lot to film this episode. It was the
end of the season too, so I think there was
a lot of pressure on it. And hold on, did
I say this?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Darren directed this? Okay, he wrote it and directed it,
which I.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Didn't remember that at all. Do you remember Darren as
a director?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Again, I was so overwhelmed, of course by all of it,
all of it, and then like thrown because I'm sure
I didn't meet Chris until on set, like I don't remember, but.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It was just like, you know, well, he's he's he
turned on the charm for you. It did, yea, hence
my massive smile.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's amazing though, it's perfect, It's perfect and good.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Okay, we're gonna back up.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We're gonna talk about the storyline. So remember this Brady
bunch thing they do in the beginning. Oh god, so Darren,
Darren loves a little courky thing thing.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, just even the way they told the crabs that
you had crabs, right, I know, maybe the growing up
on the table.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true. That was creative.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm really glad. Also, they did cut to my stomach
and I remember just sucking my stomach in it really hard.
But also thank god they didn't put a little bug
on there or something. Yeah, oh god, but.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They cut to the crabs instead.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So they do this very funny little Brady Bunch thing
to tell the story of how we all end up
at Hampton's house, which is that this couple who we've
never met or heard from, have these friends and then
they're all in related and or breaking up and cheating
on each other. A very clever little Brady Bunch thing there.
I'm sure that was all Darren. Then I convince everybody
(06:04):
at the coffee shop that we should go and stay
in this house because we're getting a good deal for
the month of August, which, of course, back then all
the deals were good compared to now, my god, I
mean the amount of money I have paid to take
my kids out to the Hampton's good Lord, yes hoo.
So I convinced them all to come out to the
to the Hamptons, and I say some crazy things like
(06:26):
who knows in a year one of us could be married,
one of us could have a kid. Yeah, And they
all look at me like I'm insane, and in.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Fact I'm right. I'm right Charlotte is right.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
In a year people pregnant Miranda, Oh remember that.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It all comes to pass with the guy from the
Sandwich Suit.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
No, you don't know who Miranda has a kid with. Yes, okay, good?
Yeah Igenburg Steve, Yeah, Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That was a great relationship. I actually liked that relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's as fantastic, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Also, will not come on the podcast. I have begged
and cried and begged because he kind of interestingly little
bit like you in terms of doesn't watch his work,
doesn't really remember things, doesn't want to pay attention to
that part, hates press.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
And I said, it's not press, it's me, yes, and
on a couch.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, and I will protect you and trust you in
all ways. But he was like, I just don't do that,
you know, And I don't want anyone to be uncomfortable.
So I said, okay, David, I forgive you.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But imagine if he and I were on the same episode,
we'd be like, I don't know, I don't know, I
can't remember, but.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It would be entertaining because you're both really watchable. So
I would watch that. But I mean the thing about
Eigenberg I think as well, is that he is so
incredibly real and in it that he doesn't want to
kind of look back at the finished product work as
being the important thing. He wants to be in it,
which I respect, you know, and everyone has their own thing,
(08:01):
and I think that that's important to kind of honor. Right,
Like Sara Juska doesn't want to watch the episodes. People
are all mad at her that she doesn't want to
watch the episodes. That's her process, yeah, Like her process
is that I'm in it and I'm going to do
the best I can do in it, and that is
kind of the end of it, right, Yeah, in the scene,
that's my job, right, Our job is not to watch
(08:23):
ourselves necessarily, unless you want to watch yourself and learn
from it, and then that's great. And sometimes I have
had really great joy watching it with a big audience,
like at a premiere, Yeah, because you get to really
feel yeah the response, Yeah, which is a joy. Right, Okay,
we're back to the show. We're back to the show.
So here we are Samantha. She has this young young assistant,
(08:48):
Nina is her name, and oh my goodness, it's a
hot mess. So then we cut to the jitney, which
seeing us all getting on that Jitney really made me laugh.
The memories of the Jitney. Oh my goodness. Me and
I meet this young guy, Greg and he's twenty six,
so I kind of wonk at the girls, like, you know,
he's twenty six or whatever, and they're like, oh, what
(09:09):
is going on? So we all head out, we go
to the we have a whole conversation about this is
funny to me because the conversation is basically, are the
twenty something girls in Manhattan a threat to the thirty
something women in Manhattan? And of course you are going
(09:30):
to be the epitome of this when we do meet
you at the end of the episode, because you are
a twenty something and we are a thirty something. And
to me, it's so really bizarre and weird. This kind
of divide that we divide.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, but because it's not that far off. It's not
far off at all.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
But I think back then, the idea of being in
your thirties as a woman, because we were very limited
in terms of like obviously as an actress you were limited,
like you thought at forty it would be done. That's
what I was told, that's what everyone believe. But also
I think back then you were supposed to be married
in your thirties, you were supposed to have your job,
(10:09):
You're supposed to have it together in your thirties. Children, children, Yes,
Whereas now I feel like everything's much more wide open
and fluid and whatever you want to do goes, But
back then not so much. You were supposed to be
your shit together by your thirties. So I think that's
why the difference, the difference in terms of how we
(10:31):
talk about it. But I also think it's so interesting
to think about the idea of are the younger women
threatening or not? And to me, I just don't even
feel like we're even remotely the same, Like, how could
we even be threatened by them? Like any guy who
would like a twenty something is not going to like me.
(10:54):
We're totally different.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, do you know what I mean? Do you feel
that way?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Not that you're in it, but you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I'm not in it. I don't know. Yeah, but I
wouldn't be, I think, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's hard to even for me, it's hard to imagine
the idea of wasting energy. Feeling threatened by the twenties
is what I'm really saying, right, well, certainly at this age, yeah, right, yeah,
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Remember being threatened by it. Me neither thirties eitherty.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Whatever, No me, neither me, neither me, neither. And I
think in a lot of ways because I don't think.
I mean, it is funny that certainly there's a lot
of women out there who try to pretend that they're
younger than they are, which is sad, but I understand
why because our society is so ageist and has been
for so long, and we're trying to change it. But
(11:46):
it's really hard to change these things, man, you know
what I'm saying. So I have this whole thing with
this young guy who has like floppy hair, which is
so funny where I'm going to try to pretend like
(12:07):
I'm in my twenties, really embarrassing. But I also remember
he would just throw me. He was just throwing me
at the when we're in the beach.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I know, I saw that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh my god, and you could hear me just squealing
in the background through that whole scene because I think
they just.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Told him like throw her around, yeah, and I was like, ah, God,
don't know, but I'm so genius because like he was
like wrestling of football, and you were.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Like, I'm gonna be twenty six. I'm gonna be twenty six.
I'm gonna be twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Six, right, and I try to give him high Yeah,
Oh my god great.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean it's very much like how it is now.
I have a fourteen year old, right, and they have
all the crazy words gibbty whatever, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I don't know that one.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Oh Lord, have mercy. And my daughter told me the
other day like, Mom, don't try.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah yeah, Like.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, thank you, thank you. I have permission not to try.
I'm so glad because they have a whole vocabulary and if.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It comes out of your mouth, it just doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's mortifying. It's fully mortifying, right, it's fully mortifying. But
at this point Charlotte can just barely pull it off.
Though of course the girls are like, oh god, why
is she even trying? And she pays the price by
getting crabs, which I think is totally appropriate and fine.
So then Carrie meets this guy. He's a doctor. He's
good on paper. You can tell it's not gonna work.
(13:27):
It's so funny to me to watch that storyline. I
mean it is kind of sweet in a way, like
in the absence of Big that she's trying with like kind.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Of appropriate choices.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yes, you know, he's a doctor. He's very polite, but
there's but none of the no, no spark, nothing, nothing
at all. They walk down the beach. You know, Carrie's fascinating,
but that's all. I thought.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
She's so out of his.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
League over saying yeah, that's well put, that's well put.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I think that's an interesting thing too, Like when I
look back, there's a lot of analysis of Big and
carry right, And I tried to get Sarah Josca to
now analyze it when she came on the podcast, and
she doesn't really want to. She did have a very
interesting perspective about him, which I thought was interesting and
unusual in terms of like who raised him and how
(14:25):
he was raised and why he is the way that
he is and the generation that he was a part of,
which does totally make sense. But then I said why,
you know, but why did she put up with so
much from him? Because she really does And she said
he was just her person, which I think is the
way it is, you know what.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I mean, how what was the age difference?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
The age difference of them is like ten years.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I want to say on s big, I mean, I'd
have to analyze it, and then that means it was
twenty years between.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Or yeah, which I don't you never even mentioned. Yeah,
you had a little age range situation going on.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
There was age range situation, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But it was so incredibly common and not thought of
twice that a man like that would marry a girl
who was twenty five. No, that was just totally normal
and expected. I would actually say expected. Yeah, Carrie was
unexpected because she was complicated, she was thirty something. She
(15:28):
was hot.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You're cool and hot a total different way. You're desirable
in a whole different way, you know what I'm saying.
But that's what I love about the contrast, and that's
why you were so perfect. But I want to talk
about something that's not in this episode because you're here,
and I would be remiss if we do not talk
about the falling down the stairs and oh, yeah, tooth.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I rewatched that episode and it made I I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I know, I was shocked as well.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, it really made me jump.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It made me jump and then and hurt and then
her helping I know, Natasha and I locked the door, locked.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
The door so she can't get in the air. Now,
what do you remember of that, Like, what were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I don't know, but it was I don't know if
that was an instinct or that was in the script.
I can't remember, but I just again, then having her
sit out there watching the rest of the episode, and
her staying there and checking in and making sure, and
then Big showing up and he thanked her for being there.
(16:37):
But and then my parents were coming to Natasha's parents
were coming down, like what was that whole conversation going
to be with my husband? Like it was all like
you just I just wanted to.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Know that next thing, like he just wasn't for them
me too.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I feel like there was a lot left out. But
part of the reason that that was left out was
because we're with Carrie, right, so she doesn't know that, right.
But all also feel at the same.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Time like beautifully written because it makes.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You wonder like what is happening over there? Yeah, what
is happening over there? And poor Natasha.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Poor Natasha.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But then I'd love when we come back to and
just like that that it's Natasha who is caring for her.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
So incredible, you know, yes, I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
There really is that bond.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Between them, like they absolutely I mean whether you know, right,
But that also isn't that the weirdness of life?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right? Like like also before we go there, because I
want to say this when I did rewatch, when you
come in and so big in care of having their affair,
just to update everybody, big and carry, you're having their
affair within my bed exactly, and we think you don't
know about it, but you come in and you see
her trying to run out the back door, and you say,
(17:57):
I knew you were having an affair, but not in
my bed or in my apartment or something like that.
That just kind of broke me too.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Like yeah, because obviously she's been you know, where have
you been?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And there's been questions there's.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Been in their relationship, right that you don't ever know
about until that moment.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But that's just like how a mistress wouldn't know, do
you know what I'm saying? Like we're so with Carrie,
but yet and because we're kind of inside Carrie's mind
at all times because of the voiceover, right, like we're
in in her and we're obviously as her friends devoted
to her. But just from your perspective, from the Natasha perspective,
I was so sad. And you also have so much
(18:39):
poise because even though you come in and you see
her trying to scuttle out the back, you're still like Carrie, wait,
like you're not screaming at her, you know what I mean,
like you're chasing her, but you're you're you're still very
poised about it because apparently you already knew.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, there weren't any knives on these, because that would
have made sense.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Okay, it would have made sense to me at least
to me at least it would have made sense.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
But then when you fall and you hit.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Your face, Oh my god, I'm dying. Right, was it
really film that?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Well?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Was it a stunt double?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Memory, Okay, we're gonna find out all these clues.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Sure, there was a stump, but there was a pad.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
There, right, There was a pad, right, because when you
lift your head up, it's obviously you So if there
was a sun double, it was minimal. But also, thank
god I had remembered it somehow that you literally fell
down the stairs, but you fell kind of on the
threshold out the stairwell, which is better than.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It was down one flight, and then the turn.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, everything, got it.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
It's scary, scary.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It's so scary and so dramatic and so well written.
Oh my god, oh my god. I'm still trying to
recover from it. And again, I just don't even think myself,
you know, because I'm all in her world, right, and
I remember thinking it was really really good, right, but
I never thought about like you and Natasha and you
know what is it like?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
How's your tooth?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah? Yeah? And then the fact that you later on
and then just like that say that it's still a
different color.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
No, that was that was in that was in sex
sex and when you sit down where she like interrupts,
she comes, she comes.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You might be at the four seasons like you're somewhere
really posed. Some were fam yes, really fancy. Oh so
that was that scene where you tell her that still
how do you remember that? Did you like that? Were
you happy about that scene?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I think so? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well I think it's also the only scene I had
multiple lines.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Which is so incredible.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Right, there were episodes I had no lines I'm sure unbelievable,
so unbelievable. That was nerve wracking. Suddenly I had to
string sentences together.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Could I do it? Or could I not?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I don't know, My god, you weren't actually thinking no, no, no?
Did you so? So? You were? When you so? You
were modeling? Then you were going on all the auditions,
all the auditions. You really wanted to act because modeling
was not fulfilling. This is what I'm getting, very successful,
but you know, wanted more. Right, Did you go to
acting class? Yes? Did you get acting class before or
did you have a coach?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I was going to school here in the city while
I was working during the day, and I was working
at K. Michael Patton Studio here on the Upper West Side,
and she was Meisner based and just lovely and loved
that class. Maria Bello actually I think went to the
same I think she went to the same studio at
(21:34):
one part of her training. Cool and then I started working,
But I kind of focused on studying for a while
and getting because I didn't want to go out into
the auditioning process not having some sort of confidence and
sea legs, a little bit of knowing how to prepare and.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Absolutely and worktely.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You get the job and then you can't actually do it,
you know, that would be horrible. That would have been horrible, horrible.
So I gave myself like three years before I would
actually start auditioning.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Smart Smarts, so that would have been before. Yeah, got it,
got it? Got it cool? Okay, I have to talk
about the episodes more, I think, because some things really
love the rewatching.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Of course they did interesting. It's so great.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's interesting. Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting way to relive
the episodes, you know, and I guess people watch them
over and over, which is so cool.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's so great now because also there's a lot of
our generation who were in it, or we're watching it
for the first time. Yeah, whose children are now? I know,
teenagers biz are watching it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I know it. I know my eighteen year old has
not seen it yet, but all of our friends have,
which is interesting, and she wants to know when I
will let her see it.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And I just can't get my.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Mind around it, do I mean, I just yeah, it's
weird for me to think about her watching it. You know,
I want her to watch it. I'm just not quite
ready yet.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well, I think the good thing is it's not porn right, Like,
that's not what you're holding back from her seeing.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
No, absolutely, and there is as ye yes and funny
and the women in charge you know, absolutely absolutely, It's
just such good content is still there?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So like as a mom, I'm as a mother, yes,
And then I have to think through, like which which
episode do I not want her to see of me?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Do you feel that like did your son watch you? Well?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I feel like when Euphoria came out, there are a
lot of parents who are having this discussion like do
do you let your kids watch it? So many of
the kids were letting like, let's watch it. Let's watch
the episode, but let's break it down and talk about
the deuce and don'ts and what's actually happening in your
life and how would you like it's an educational side
(24:02):
of it? Yeah yeah as a mom, yeah, yeah, you
could be having.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Absolutely I think that's great.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I just have to just like get my mind around
the fact that I might be doing something or whatever
that might be embarrassing, the.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Worst thing or the scariest thing that you don't want
your daughter to see. You do say in the position of.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Such a good question, Richard, I don't even know. I mean,
luckily I play Charlotte, right right, So it's not that
bad that I can think of. I think it's more
of like the just this frankness of the conversation.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Right across the board, across the.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Board, like Samantha, you know, comes to mind. And the
thing that's great about Samantha as a certainly as a
conversational tool with your children, is that she is so
sex boss and not judgmental and fully empowered in what
she wants, you know, And it's so rare to find
these characters, women characters in this way. So I love
(25:12):
that perspective as like, you know, look at she she
does what she wants, you know, she's unapologetic about it.
Like that's something that as a young person I would
have loved to see. Yeah, right, I mean there are
just so many weird things. This is what comes to mind.
It's so not anything to be embarrassed about. But I
do so many silly things. Like there's a scene it
(25:34):
hasn't I don't think we've rewatched it yet where for
some reason someone tells me that I need to look
at my private parts in the mirror and get.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
My private parts in the mirror and I fall off
the bed. Okay, yeah, yes, that would be great, honey.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So when you do that, make sure you're holding onto
something stable and maybe have a crash pad on the
floor prior to checking yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Really totally so good.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
There's nothing that I don't stand by, do you know
what I mean? But it's also just like embarrassing kind of.
I mean, in general, I don't show my kids my acting.
People are always asking me if I do, and I'm like,
why would I is so weird. I mean, I have
movies like The Shaggy Dog that I did that I
could totally show them, but it just seems strange, like
(26:22):
I want them to think of me as their mom.
I don't need them to secret public, public thing. But
when we did go back to do and just like that,
because it had been COVID, my son is only seven now,
so he doesn't remember, you know, the Heyday, and Jema
wasn't here for the Heyday either, my fourteen year old,
but she knows everybody and knows about it, intellectually knows
about it. But they put us on that building, oh,
(26:46):
on sunset and on the buses. So the buses would
drive by and Wilson, who's seven, he'd say, Mommy, there's
you and your friends so cute, and I was like, yes,
there we are. So he has like a odd idea
of what it is, you know, without knowing the details.
And then he really loves craft services. That's his course.
(27:07):
Mommy gets good lunch. She gets a lot of snacks.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
At work, like yes, yes, okay, oh wait.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
One of the most adorable parts of this whole episode
is that they have Carrie looking through an album of
her twenties and there's an actual picture of her kissing
Matthew Broderick in it, but they have their heads turned
and you can't tell that that's her, and I know that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I can't remember when that moment was happening.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
She goes back, so they go to the Hampton's all
the weekend, and then she goes back to her apartment
and she's thinking about what she was like in her twenties,
because we have this whole counterpoint of the twenty somethings, right,
And she's got a big photo album, old fashioned photo
album with a hard to stick yeah feeling exactly, and
it's really sweet, and there's a picture of her Matthew,
(28:04):
I know when I was like, oh, and she kind
of at one point she like, there's also some kind
of funny she's got her big puffy eighties hair. There's
some funny embarrassing pictures that she puts her hand over them,
like I'm so embarrassed. It's really cute and so her.
You know, in the olden days, we would have done
things like that and not realized they were going to
live forever. Yeah, you know, so we Oh my god,
(28:28):
we forgot about the fact that Carrie gets a groupie
slash assistant in this episode. This writer is who she
meets who says.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
It's never had sex, yes, yeah, which.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Is also so strange and interesting and you can see
Carrie's face just like what And it also reminded me
of the great generational divide now sometimes where I sometimes
feel this way with younger women when they say, like,
you know, what do you mean feminism? And I'm like,
(29:01):
what do you mean? What do you mean feminism? Like
do you not know that you are benefiting from feminism?
Like really, has that word taken on so much weight
in a bad way like that you can't embrace it?
That's crazy?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, yes, yeah, I mean, I guess the wheels are turning.
The wheels are turning, and I'm afraid i'll say something.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I get it, it's hard. It's a hard one talking about.
But do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, yes, yes, so.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Bu uh but I'm way out of order. So Carrie
gets this little group who's never had sex and then
who then at one point paints her toenails in the
Hamptons and says something about women just parading their huhas
which I'm not going to say the word she uses,
and how gross it is. And you can just see
Carrie like, this is really weird, and this girl is
(29:55):
not in the place she should be. But also, in
my mind, the thing that I see when I see her,
she wants to be a writer, right, and she's hoping
that if she's around Carrie, there's a rub offer. And
she goes to a book party with her, and you know,
she she's a climber, you know. Yeah, it's interesting, but
she thinks that she's innocent and pure and exactly yeah, right,
(30:18):
it's very interesting, very interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Okay, we're back at the beach.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Things are fabulous. We have no idea our world is
about to be crushed. You know, Carrie's flirting with the doctor.
I see, oh this is when we're finally at the
hoe down the Hoedown. Man, A lot happens, and I
think we were there.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
The costumes at the Hoedown were good, Oh my god.
The Harry's costume was good.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Carrie's costume is incredible, and they still there's all kind
of tiktoks about it and whatnot, which I totally get.
I mean, she can pull off anything, really, yeah, but
also everyone has some crazy little hats, like it's funny
in the summer of Cowboy Carter to think back, that's funny.
You know, these were more toy They look like children's hats,
(31:04):
like we've gone to a birthday party and stolen all
of their hats. So then she's looking across the party.
You know. I have gone and confronted this dude Greg
and said, you know, you gave me crabs and he's like, well,
you deceived me about your age, and that's worse.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah. I was like, not really, not really cream for that, dud.
You're not on antibiotics for that exactly. And then I say, oh.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Row up, I don't know what you Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, I don't either, but yeah, it's all really he's
he's quite uh, he's I think. I think what I'm
thinking about with the groupie girl and him as well,
is there's a bit of a like higher mightier than
now whatever, you know what I'm saying, like, uh, kind
of we're better than you idea, which I do kind
(31:53):
of feel like plays out now in the generational differences
where everyone's talking about gen Z, gen alpha, so many,
so many gens. Then the saddest, saddest sad part happens
where she looks across and sees you and as you
very very accurately said, you were just glowing and acting,
(32:17):
smiling and laughing, just happy to be there with him,
so glorious, so glorious, and he looks also so relaxed,
and he really did he really did. It shocked me. Yeah,
it really shocked me. And obviously it is horrific for Carrie,
and she tries to kind of save face but also
(32:37):
find out what the heck is going on. You very
politely excuse yourself, he says, the very lame I was
going to call you, which I just wanted to smack
him so hard when he said that, I know, like
that is a lame.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Excuse, but he did sound like he meant it. He
struggled with calling her.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I guess I think I do you think you're being generous?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
But yeah, I think I'm being generous.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I think you're being generous. But I mean, this is
the mindset that we all had, right, this is the
mindset that I would have had at the time. Oh,
he did want to call her, That's what I would
have thought. But then I'm like, but did you call her?
Did you think about the fact that you're running around
town with this gorgeous twenty five year old and you
haven't told the woman that you left that you're back
from Paris, which you basically yeah, you know, broke up
(33:26):
with her for or she broke up with him, however
you want to look at it anyway. Then she runs
to the beach. This is one of those times where
in my mind back then our production values were really low,
and in some ways they were, but in some ways
they're incredible. Like when she goes to the beach and
Miranda runs out there, she and the fireworks, Yeah, so incredible.
(33:46):
Oh my god. I don't know if they're real or
CGI or whatever you add back then, but they're incredible.
They're so good, and also just the mastery with which
Sara Jessica uses her cowboy to fake throwing.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Up unbelievable, right, yeah, really well doable and pull her
hair back at the same time.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
And Miranda comes and pulls her hair back, which is
a throwback to earlier in the episode where we see
the girls throwing up at the initial campfire we go
to with the young guys, Yes, and they're throwing up
and we're like, oh, we've got to leave, and then
they say, oh, but the sweet thing about twenty seven
girls is they're always there for their friends. And then
you see Miranda on the beach holding Carrie's hairbag. It's like,
(34:29):
it's so sweet and good, it's so good. And then
she says, I realized twenty something girls are just fabulous
until you see one with the man who broke your heart.
It's so sad. It's so so so sad. I know it,
I know it. Sorry, Carrie, I know. And it's just
(34:51):
going to go to some crazy places. That's the other
thing that's interesting watching it is because we know what happens,
you know, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
You still can't wait to watch the next episode.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I know, I know, even if you've seen them hundreds
of times, like you know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I know, you guys, I know, I know. But also
the little details are so good that like even if
you remember the big, the big picture things, you forget
all these tiny little details which are just so excellent.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, just like everybody costume props, costumes, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Costume props everybody. So let's just talk about it and
just like that, really quick, Michael Patrick calls you, says, hey,
can I pitch you something? Bridget We're like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then when you came had you it was right
after COVID. Had you gone back to work already on
blue Buds or yes, oh got it? So we had
(35:48):
to just borrow you from them. Then you had to
come spend the day with us a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I think it was in the summer, so I think, yeah,
so I think that I was on hiatus and then
I was going back to work literally like the next
week after I shot.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
With you, probably the same week.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And was it like for us coming back? It was
the same but very different. How did you feel coming
back after all the time?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
It felt very much the same, like for me. My
first scene I shot with you guys. Maybe it was
the outdoor one getting out of the car, I don't remember,
but I remember being upstairs in some window and you
guys were walking across the street, you know, across right
(36:38):
the street.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Together and looking up and I just remember thinking, oh
my gosh, I'm so happy to be back here.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
And you guys were so perfectly dressed, and the energy
and the you know, the friendships. So I got to
see it from way up here, but I saw the
crowds on the streets on either end, and it was
COVID right, And I think that you that show coming back,
(37:12):
You guys on the street in those.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Outfits just revived this city.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
In neighborhood, like oh, life is coming back to almost
and that was.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
What the show was going to do.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, it fell on air like it just felt we
needed my We didn't know we were missing this, but
yeah we needed this. It's true's energy and I think
just all of us, you know, no one could work right.
So it was it was like the cruise couldn't work,
you know, the entire we were we were back, like, yeah,
we had a great we were back right away. Probably
(37:57):
if we finished in that March of COVID that first year.
We were back on working in October.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
That's amazing, and we just.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, that's so great. Yeah, since we had started Gilded
Age a little bit before us. But they had to
do some crazy things, like they had these bubbles that
they would put them in before action.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
We never got the bubbles.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah. I don't know what was happening, but I mean
it was I think there was so much unknown, right,
so people were worried and whatnot. And I remember the
masks and you know, you'd wear the mask holl the
end and then take them off and then you have
marks on your face, back in your face. But we
were just so happy to be working. Yeah, so amazing
to be working and to be working together. You know,
(38:41):
I would work with them forever. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Good.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, it's just been an incredible joy and thank you. Wait.
Oh wait, oh what's left Bridget?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Are you a Charlotte?
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I have to answer this question.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'm ish, Okay, I feel like Charlotte is no pressure.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
You don't have to be Oh no, no, no, okay,
I think I have is I think in life?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
You do?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I mean, if I may be so persumptuous. Yeah, I
mean you're certainly grounded, family oriented, loyal, you know, believe
in love, you know you you are all of them omitted.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I think Charlotte is a bit more of a people
pleaser than I am.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Well, good for you then that you're not. That's one
of her worst qualities. Okay, good, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Look, I love her, so I'm not going to rail
on her.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
But you know, people pleasing is exhausting and not really
great for your health. A lot of work. But like,
I feel like you your own and I think people
I feel I feel like and tell me if I'm wrong.
You're You're part in Blue Bloods in some ways, you know,
showed people you're kind of more your real self in
certain ways in terms of like the grounded, rigid, you know,
(40:00):
because you're so glamorous looking.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, and it really was a like nice fit as
far as you know, Irish Catholic, that kind of family,
and like I grew up in some a lot of
a lot of those elements, right, and I learned a
lot from that character.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
But like I mean, I don't know if it I
don't know, I don't know. Some people will say to me, like,
you know, I'm part Charlotte park Carry or you know whatever.
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, probably true for myself,
Like I'm not all Charlotte, thank goodness, right, but but
I do. It's fun to think about it is fun
to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I'm happy I got to come back and hang out
with you.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
So happy, I mean, and I feel like there's a
lot more coming, even though you said you have very
little screen time, but like I would love to have
you back for that conversation when you do finally talk
to Carrie. I don't know if you're free, you know
what I'm saying, I'm free because that's so good. And
I also feel like the way that this lives in
people's lifeas you know, partly because you were so much discussed,
(41:03):
but also because the whole storyline is so complicated and
we were so much on Carrie's side. But is that
actually where we should have been, right? I don't think so.
I know, you know, it's really interesting to me, and
the fact that people would be upset with you because
you were, you know, in the way or ruining Big
and Carrie.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Oh my gosh, I know, I know somebody just said
to me, you know, I used to be all Carrie,
but now I'm now I'm all Natasha. Because of their
age difference, when this she became older, she became more
pro Natasha.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Absolutely, and probably more understanding of what Natasha was going through.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Which I's That's the joy of the show is that
as you age, you might have different perspectives on the storylines,
on the characters, all of those things.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I know, You're a joy, so happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You for being here.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, I'll come back. You have me please?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
There you are you kidding me? M h m hmmmm.
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
you a Charlotte? Welcome back, everybody too, are you a Charlotte?
We are back with Bridget moynihan and we are going
to break down the episode that she first appeared in,
twenty something Girls versus thirty something Women, which is kind
(00:21):
of funny because twenty somethings and thirty somethings they're not
really that different, but apparently at the time we really
felt like they were. But now when I look back
at the episode, I feel very much relating to like
fifty something women and twenty seven you know, like the
generational divide is so great, right because we all remember
(00:42):
analog world. They don't know anything about analog world. Like
I have to say to my kids all the time,
like they'll say, like, what did you watch on the iPad, Mommy,
And I'm like, there was no iPad, children, It was
black and white. There were three TV stations. They look
at you like you are insane, Like it's so interesting
(01:03):
the you know, the fast paced way that the change
is happening, I guess. And then obviously the generations are
very different, which is discussed a lot, but I think
probably on purpose and should be discussed some more. And
when I watched this, I was reminded of the fact
that at the time, we thought that thirty something women,
(01:23):
first of all, were really old, right, which is funny
because it's not old at all. But the twenty something girls,
they were a bit of a mess in this episode.
So this is the episode where we see at the
party and one of the things that I remember and
I don't even remember the names, and I don't think
I should probably say that even if I could. But
you know, Samantha's a publicist, and her storyline is that
(01:46):
she's a publicist. She has an assistant who's a terrible assistant. Okay,
this girl's yacking on the phone, you know, relatively disrespectful
to her boss, doesn't hang up. Samantha is like, no, oh,
I actually mean it. You need to do your job,
and so this girl quits and takes Samantha's rolodex. That
was all based on real people who if I wanted to,
(02:09):
I could find their names and tell you, but I
think I probably shouldn't.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Right, I can imagine it. I feel like that was
kind of the thing you do. I'm pretty sure you do.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
It was a real thing, and I remember like all
of New York was like but then this person who
took the Rolodex did really, really well. It was like
kind of one of the up and comers and is
now like a long term person in the PR world.
But the funny thing at the time of the storyline,
you know, because they were always stealing stuff, you know,
and trying to change it a little bit whatever, Now
(02:40):
that they really cared, I don't think these young girls
are a mess. They're just a terrible mess. Because as
this girl who takes Samantha's Rolodex and then eventually is
throwing the rodeo party where we initially meet Natasha, everything's
going wrong and she doesn't know what to do and
she's potentially coked up, which is also in her and
(03:01):
then Samantha has to save the day, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Well, and the best part about that she introduces your
young fling.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Totally to the crab guy who antson Mountain, who we
do still want to have on the podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I'm really sorry that you.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Sometimes I've been having some trouble getting the guys to
come on, not all of them, but like sometimes when
I rewatched the episode, I kind of understand why. I mean,
it's like kind of ick and also not only let's
back up, so Charlotte has, for some reason that we
don't even get into, just decided she's going to try
to pretend like she's twenty seven in this whole episode,
(03:37):
which I think is so funny. Or twenty six. I
can't even remember, and I only this is again vague,
vague memories. I remember that we were in far Rockaway
and I was very mad personally inside me that we
were not at the Hamptons, because I was like, this
place is sad okay, no fence to Far Rockway, but
you know, yeah, it was not glamorous.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It was not what you had in your mind, not.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
At all what I had in my mind. And we
had to work hard to make those parties look nice,
you know. And the beach doesn't look like the Hampton's beach.
But never mind. So we're in Far Rockaway and I
think we all had to take those eighteen seater buses out,
you know, those buses, like it's not a bus bus
but like a van okay, sixteen sixteen seater, sixteen eighteen seater,
(04:20):
like we were all together, Maybe not, sir Jessica but
everybody else, you know what I mean? It was it
was a lot to film this episode. It was the
end of the season too, so I think there was
a lot of pressure on it. And hold on, did
I say this?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Darren directed this? Okay, he wrote it and directed it,
which I.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Didn't remember that at all. Do you remember Darren as
a director?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Again, I was so overwhelmed, of course by all of it,
all of it, and then like thrown because I'm sure
I didn't meet Chris until on set, like I don't remember, but.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
It was just like, you know, well, he's he's he
turned on the charm for you. It did, yea, hence
my massive smile.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's amazing though, it's perfect, It's perfect and good.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Okay, we're gonna back up.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
We're gonna talk about the storyline. So remember this Brady
bunch thing they do in the beginning. Oh god, so Darren,
Darren loves a little courky thing thing.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yes, just even the way they told the crabs that
you had crabs, right, I know, maybe the growing up
on the table.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's true. That was creative.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I'm really glad. Also, they did cut to my stomach
and I remember just sucking my stomach in it really hard.
But also thank god they didn't put a little bug
on there or something. Yeah, oh god, but.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They cut to the crabs instead.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
So they do this very funny little Brady Bunch thing
to tell the story of how we all end up
at Hampton's house, which is that this couple who we've
never met or heard from, have these friends and then
they're all in related and or breaking up and cheating
on each other. A very clever little Brady Bunch thing there.
I'm sure that was all Darren. Then I convince everybody
(06:04):
at the coffee shop that we should go and stay
in this house because we're getting a good deal for
the month of August, which, of course, back then all
the deals were good compared to now, my god, I
mean the amount of money I have paid to take
my kids out to the Hampton's good Lord, yes hoo.
So I convinced them all to come out to the
to the Hamptons, and I say some crazy things like
(06:26):
who knows in a year one of us could be married,
one of us could have a kid. Yeah, And they
all look at me like I'm insane, and in.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Fact I'm right. I'm right Charlotte is right.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
In a year people pregnant Miranda, Oh remember that.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
It all comes to pass with the guy from the
Sandwich Suit.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
No, you don't know who Miranda has a kid with. Yes, okay, good?
Yeah Igenburg Steve, Yeah, Yes.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That was a great relationship. I actually liked that relationship.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
It's as fantastic, unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Also, will not come on the podcast. I have begged
and cried and begged because he kind of interestingly little
bit like you in terms of doesn't watch his work,
doesn't really remember things, doesn't want to pay attention to
that part, hates press.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
And I said, it's not press, it's me, yes, and
on a couch.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Yeah, and I will protect you and trust you in
all ways. But he was like, I just don't do that,
you know, And I don't want anyone to be uncomfortable.
So I said, okay, David, I forgive you.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
But imagine if he and I were on the same episode,
we'd be like, I don't know, I don't know, I
can't remember, but.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
It would be entertaining because you're both really watchable. So
I would watch that. But I mean the thing about
Eigenberg I think as well, is that he is so
incredibly real and in it that he doesn't want to
kind of look back at the finished product work as
being the important thing. He wants to be in it,
which I respect, you know, and everyone has their own thing,
(08:01):
and I think that that's important to kind of honor. Right,
Like Sara Juska doesn't want to watch the episodes. People
are all mad at her that she doesn't want to
watch the episodes. That's her process, yeah, Like her process
is that I'm in it and I'm going to do
the best I can do in it, and that is
kind of the end of it, right, Yeah, in the scene,
that's my job, right, Our job is not to watch
(08:23):
ourselves necessarily, unless you want to watch yourself and learn
from it, and then that's great. And sometimes I have
had really great joy watching it with a big audience,
like at a premiere, Yeah, because you get to really
feel yeah the response, Yeah, which is a joy. Right, Okay,
we're back to the show. We're back to the show.
So here we are Samantha. She has this young young assistant,
(08:48):
Nina is her name, and oh my goodness, it's a
hot mess. So then we cut to the jitney, which
seeing us all getting on that Jitney really made me laugh.
The memories of the Jitney. Oh my goodness. Me and
I meet this young guy, Greg and he's twenty six,
so I kind of wonk at the girls, like, you know,
he's twenty six or whatever, and they're like, oh, what
(09:09):
is going on? So we all head out, we go
to the we have a whole conversation about this is
funny to me because the conversation is basically, are the
twenty something girls in Manhattan a threat to the thirty
something women in Manhattan? And of course you are going
(09:30):
to be the epitome of this when we do meet
you at the end of the episode, because you are
a twenty something and we are a thirty something. And
to me, it's so really bizarre and weird. This kind
of divide that we divide.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, but because it's not that far off. It's not
far off at all.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
But I think back then, the idea of being in
your thirties as a woman, because we were very limited
in terms of like obviously as an actress you were limited,
like you thought at forty it would be done. That's
what I was told, that's what everyone believe. But also
I think back then you were supposed to be married
in your thirties, you were supposed to have your job,
(10:09):
You're supposed to have it together in your thirties. Children, children, Yes,
Whereas now I feel like everything's much more wide open
and fluid and whatever you want to do goes, But
back then not so much. You were supposed to be
your shit together by your thirties. So I think that's
why the difference, the difference in terms of how we
(10:31):
talk about it. But I also think it's so interesting
to think about the idea of are the younger women
threatening or not? And to me, I just don't even
feel like we're even remotely the same, Like, how could
we even be threatened by them? Like any guy who
would like a twenty something is not going to like me.
(10:54):
We're totally different.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, do you know what I mean? Do you feel
that way?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Not that you're in it, but you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I'm not in it. I don't know. Yeah, but I
wouldn't be, I think, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
It's hard to even for me, it's hard to imagine
the idea of wasting energy. Feeling threatened by the twenties
is what I'm really saying, right, well, certainly at this age, yeah, right, yeah,
And I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Remember being threatened by it. Me neither thirties eitherty.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Whatever, No me, neither me, neither me, neither. And I
think in a lot of ways because I don't think.
I mean, it is funny that certainly there's a lot
of women out there who try to pretend that they're
younger than they are, which is sad, but I understand
why because our society is so ageist and has been
for so long, and we're trying to change it. But
(11:46):
it's really hard to change these things, man, you know
what I'm saying. So I have this whole thing with
this young guy who has like floppy hair, which is
so funny where I'm going to try to pretend like
(12:07):
I'm in my twenties, really embarrassing. But I also remember
he would just throw me. He was just throwing me
at the when we're in the beach.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
I know, I saw that.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh my god, and you could hear me just squealing
in the background through that whole scene because I think
they just.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Told him like throw her around, yeah, and I was like, ah, God,
don't know, but I'm so genius because like he was
like wrestling of football, and you were.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Like, I'm gonna be twenty six. I'm gonna be twenty six.
I'm gonna be twenty.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Six, right, and I try to give him high Yeah,
Oh my god great.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I mean it's very much like how it is now.
I have a fourteen year old, right, and they have
all the crazy words gibbty whatever, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I don't know that one.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Oh Lord, have mercy. And my daughter told me the
other day like, Mom, don't try.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah yeah, Like.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Okay, thank you, thank you. I have permission not to try.
I'm so glad because they have a whole vocabulary and if.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
It comes out of your mouth, it just doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's mortifying. It's fully mortifying, right, it's fully mortifying. But
at this point Charlotte can just barely pull it off.
Though of course the girls are like, oh god, why
is she even trying? And she pays the price by
getting crabs, which I think is totally appropriate and fine.
So then Carrie meets this guy. He's a doctor. He's
good on paper. You can tell it's not gonna work.
(13:27):
It's so funny to me to watch that storyline. I
mean it is kind of sweet in a way, like
in the absence of Big that she's trying with like kind.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Of appropriate choices.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yes, you know, he's a doctor. He's very polite, but
there's but none of the no, no spark, nothing, nothing
at all. They walk down the beach. You know, Carrie's fascinating,
but that's all. I thought.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
She's so out of his.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
League over saying yeah, that's well put, that's well put.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I think that's an interesting thing too, Like when I
look back, there's a lot of analysis of Big and
carry right, And I tried to get Sarah Josca to
now analyze it when she came on the podcast, and
she doesn't really want to. She did have a very
interesting perspective about him, which I thought was interesting and
unusual in terms of like who raised him and how
(14:25):
he was raised and why he is the way that
he is and the generation that he was a part of,
which does totally make sense. But then I said why,
you know, but why did she put up with so
much from him? Because she really does And she said
he was just her person, which I think is the
way it is, you know what.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
I mean, how what was the age difference?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
The age difference of them is like ten years.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I want to say on s big, I mean, I'd
have to analyze it, and then that means it was
twenty years between.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Or yeah, which I don't you never even mentioned. Yeah,
you had a little age range situation going on.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
There was age range situation, I know.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
But it was so incredibly common and not thought of
twice that a man like that would marry a girl
who was twenty five. No, that was just totally normal
and expected. I would actually say expected. Yeah, Carrie was
unexpected because she was complicated, she was thirty something. She
(15:28):
was hot.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
You're cool and hot a total different way. You're desirable
in a whole different way, you know what I'm saying.
But that's what I love about the contrast, and that's
why you were so perfect. But I want to talk
about something that's not in this episode because you're here,
and I would be remiss if we do not talk
about the falling down the stairs and oh, yeah, tooth.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I rewatched that episode and it made I I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I know, I was shocked as well.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Yeah, it really made me jump.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
It made me jump and then and hurt and then
her helping I know, Natasha and I locked the door, locked.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
The door so she can't get in the air. Now,
what do you remember of that, Like, what were you thinking?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I don't know, but it was I don't know if
that was an instinct or that was in the script.
I can't remember, but I just again, then having her
sit out there watching the rest of the episode, and
her staying there and checking in and making sure, and
then Big showing up and he thanked her for being there.
(16:37):
But and then my parents were coming to Natasha's parents
were coming down, like what was that whole conversation going
to be with my husband? Like it was all like
you just I just wanted to.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Know that next thing, like he just wasn't for them
me too.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I feel like there was a lot left out. But
part of the reason that that was left out was
because we're with Carrie, right, so she doesn't know that, right.
But all also feel at the same.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Time like beautifully written because it makes.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You wonder like what is happening over there? Yeah, what
is happening over there? And poor Natasha.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Poor Natasha.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
But then I'd love when we come back to and
just like that that it's Natasha who is caring for her.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
So incredible, you know, yes, I mean.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
There really is that bond.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Between them, like they absolutely I mean whether you know, right,
But that also isn't that the weirdness of life?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Right? Like like also before we go there, because I
want to say this when I did rewatch, when you
come in and so big in care of having their affair,
just to update everybody, big and carry, you're having their
affair within my bed exactly, and we think you don't
know about it, but you come in and you see
her trying to run out the back door, and you say,
(17:57):
I knew you were having an affair, but not in
my bed or in my apartment or something like that.
That just kind of broke me too.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Like yeah, because obviously she's been you know, where have
you been?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And there's been questions there's.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Been in their relationship, right that you don't ever know
about until that moment.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
But that's just like how a mistress wouldn't know, do
you know what I'm saying? Like we're so with Carrie,
but yet and because we're kind of inside Carrie's mind
at all times because of the voiceover, right, like we're
in in her and we're obviously as her friends devoted
to her. But just from your perspective, from the Natasha perspective,
I was so sad. And you also have so much
(18:39):
poise because even though you come in and you see
her trying to scuttle out the back, you're still like Carrie, wait,
like you're not screaming at her, you know what I mean,
like you're chasing her, but you're you're you're still very
poised about it because apparently you already knew.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Well, there weren't any knives on these, because that would
have made sense.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Okay, it would have made sense to me at least
to me at least it would have made sense.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
But then when you fall and you hit.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Your face, Oh my god, I'm dying. Right, was it
really film that?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Well?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Was it a stunt double?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Memory, Okay, we're gonna find out all these clues.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Sure, there was a stump, but there was a pad.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
There, right, There was a pad, right, because when you
lift your head up, it's obviously you So if there
was a sun double, it was minimal. But also, thank
god I had remembered it somehow that you literally fell
down the stairs, but you fell kind of on the
threshold out the stairwell, which is better than.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
It was down one flight, and then the turn.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, everything, got it.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
It's scary, scary.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It's so scary and so dramatic and so well written.
Oh my god, oh my god. I'm still trying to
recover from it. And again, I just don't even think myself,
you know, because I'm all in her world, right, and
I remember thinking it was really really good, right, but
I never thought about like you and Natasha and you
know what is it like?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Are you okay?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:02):
How's your tooth?
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah? Yeah? And then the fact that you later on
and then just like that say that it's still a
different color.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
No, that was that was in that was in sex
sex and when you sit down where she like interrupts,
she comes, she comes.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You might be at the four seasons like you're somewhere
really posed. Some were fam yes, really fancy. Oh so
that was that scene where you tell her that still
how do you remember that? Did you like that? Were
you happy about that scene?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I think so? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Well I think it's also the only scene I had
multiple lines.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Which is so incredible.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Right, there were episodes I had no lines I'm sure unbelievable,
so unbelievable. That was nerve wracking. Suddenly I had to
string sentences together.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Could I do it? Or could I not?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I don't know, My god, you weren't actually thinking no, no, no?
Did you so? So? You were? When you so? You
were modeling? Then you were going on all the auditions,
all the auditions. You really wanted to act because modeling
was not fulfilling. This is what I'm getting, very successful,
but you know, wanted more. Right, Did you go to
acting class? Yes? Did you get acting class before or
did you have a coach?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I was going to school here in the city while
I was working during the day, and I was working
at K. Michael Patton Studio here on the Upper West Side,
and she was Meisner based and just lovely and loved
that class. Maria Bello actually I think went to the
same I think she went to the same studio at
(21:34):
one part of her training. Cool and then I started working,
But I kind of focused on studying for a while
and getting because I didn't want to go out into
the auditioning process not having some sort of confidence and
sea legs, a little bit of knowing how to prepare and.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Absolutely and worktely.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
You get the job and then you can't actually do it,
you know, that would be horrible. That would have been horrible, horrible.
So I gave myself like three years before I would
actually start auditioning.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Smart Smarts, so that would have been before. Yeah, got it,
got it? Got it cool? Okay, I have to talk
about the episodes more, I think, because some things really
love the rewatching.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Of course they did interesting. It's so great.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's interesting. Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting way to relive
the episodes, you know, and I guess people watch them
over and over, which is so cool.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's so great now because also there's a lot of
our generation who were in it, or we're watching it
for the first time. Yeah, whose children are now? I know,
teenagers biz are watching it.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
I know it. I know my eighteen year old has
not seen it yet, but all of our friends have,
which is interesting, and she wants to know when I
will let her see it.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
And I just can't get my.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Mind around it, do I mean, I just yeah, it's
weird for me to think about her watching it. You know,
I want her to watch it. I'm just not quite
ready yet.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Well, I think the good thing is it's not porn right, Like,
that's not what you're holding back from her seeing.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
No, absolutely, and there is as ye yes and funny
and the women in charge you know, absolutely absolutely, It's
just such good content is still there?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Right?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
So like as a mom, I'm as a mother, yes,
And then I have to think through, like which which
episode do I not want her to see of me?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Do you feel that like did your son watch you? Well?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I feel like when Euphoria came out, there are a
lot of parents who are having this discussion like do
do you let your kids watch it? So many of
the kids were letting like, let's watch it. Let's watch
the episode, but let's break it down and talk about
the deuce and don'ts and what's actually happening in your
life and how would you like it's an educational side
(24:02):
of it? Yeah yeah as a mom, yeah, yeah, you
could be having.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Absolutely I think that's great.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
I just have to just like get my mind around
the fact that I might be doing something or whatever
that might be embarrassing, the.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Worst thing or the scariest thing that you don't want
your daughter to see. You do say in the position of.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Such a good question, Richard, I don't even know. I mean,
luckily I play Charlotte, right right, So it's not that
bad that I can think of. I think it's more
of like the just this frankness of the conversation.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Right across the board, across the.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Board, like Samantha, you know, comes to mind. And the
thing that's great about Samantha as a certainly as a
conversational tool with your children, is that she is so
sex boss and not judgmental and fully empowered in what
she wants, you know, And it's so rare to find
these characters, women characters in this way. So I love
(25:12):
that perspective as like, you know, look at she she
does what she wants, you know, she's unapologetic about it.
Like that's something that as a young person I would
have loved to see. Yeah, right, I mean there are
just so many weird things. This is what comes to mind.
It's so not anything to be embarrassed about. But I
do so many silly things. Like there's a scene it
(25:34):
hasn't I don't think we've rewatched it yet where for
some reason someone tells me that I need to look
at my private parts in the mirror and get.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
My private parts in the mirror and I fall off
the bed. Okay, yeah, yes, that would be great, honey.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
So when you do that, make sure you're holding onto
something stable and maybe have a crash pad on the
floor prior to checking yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Really totally so good.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
There's nothing that I don't stand by, do you know
what I mean? But it's also just like embarrassing kind of.
I mean, in general, I don't show my kids my acting.
People are always asking me if I do, and I'm like,
why would I is so weird. I mean, I have
movies like The Shaggy Dog that I did that I
could totally show them, but it just seems strange, like
(26:22):
I want them to think of me as their mom.
I don't need them to secret public, public thing. But
when we did go back to do and just like that,
because it had been COVID, my son is only seven now,
so he doesn't remember, you know, the Heyday, and Jema
wasn't here for the Heyday either, my fourteen year old,
but she knows everybody and knows about it, intellectually knows
about it. But they put us on that building, oh,
(26:46):
on sunset and on the buses. So the buses would
drive by and Wilson, who's seven, he'd say, Mommy, there's
you and your friends so cute, and I was like, yes,
there we are. So he has like a odd idea
of what it is, you know, without knowing the details.
And then he really loves craft services. That's his course.
(27:07):
Mommy gets good lunch. She gets a lot of snacks.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
At work, like yes, yes, okay, oh wait.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
One of the most adorable parts of this whole episode
is that they have Carrie looking through an album of
her twenties and there's an actual picture of her kissing
Matthew Broderick in it, but they have their heads turned
and you can't tell that that's her, and I know that.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I can't remember when that moment was happening.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
She goes back, so they go to the Hampton's all
the weekend, and then she goes back to her apartment
and she's thinking about what she was like in her twenties,
because we have this whole counterpoint of the twenty somethings, right,
And she's got a big photo album, old fashioned photo
album with a hard to stick yeah feeling exactly, and
it's really sweet, and there's a picture of her Matthew,
(28:04):
I know when I was like, oh, and she kind
of at one point she like, there's also some kind
of funny she's got her big puffy eighties hair. There's
some funny embarrassing pictures that she puts her hand over them,
like I'm so embarrassed. It's really cute and so her.
You know, in the olden days, we would have done
things like that and not realized they were going to
live forever. Yeah, you know, so we Oh my god,
(28:28):
we forgot about the fact that Carrie gets a groupie
slash assistant in this episode. This writer is who she
meets who says.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
It's never had sex, yes, yeah, which.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Is also so strange and interesting and you can see
Carrie's face just like what And it also reminded me
of the great generational divide now sometimes where I sometimes
feel this way with younger women when they say, like,
you know, what do you mean feminism? And I'm like,
(29:01):
what do you mean? What do you mean feminism? Like
do you not know that you are benefiting from feminism?
Like really, has that word taken on so much weight
in a bad way like that you can't embrace it?
That's crazy?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Well, yes, yeah, I mean, I guess the wheels are turning.
The wheels are turning, and I'm afraid i'll say something.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I get it, it's hard. It's a hard one talking about.
But do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, yes, yes, so.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Bu uh but I'm way out of order. So Carrie
gets this little group who's never had sex and then
who then at one point paints her toenails in the
Hamptons and says something about women just parading their huhas
which I'm not going to say the word she uses,
and how gross it is. And you can just see
Carrie like, this is really weird, and this girl is
(29:55):
not in the place she should be. But also, in
my mind, the thing that I see when I see her,
she wants to be a writer, right, and she's hoping
that if she's around Carrie, there's a rub offer. And
she goes to a book party with her, and you know,
she she's a climber, you know. Yeah, it's interesting, but
she thinks that she's innocent and pure and exactly yeah, right,
(30:18):
it's very interesting, very interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Okay, we're back at the beach.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Things are fabulous. We have no idea our world is
about to be crushed. You know, Carrie's flirting with the doctor.
I see, oh this is when we're finally at the
hoe down the Hoedown. Man, A lot happens, and I
think we were there.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
The costumes at the Hoedown were good, Oh my god.
The Harry's costume was good.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Carrie's costume is incredible, and they still there's all kind
of tiktoks about it and whatnot, which I totally get.
I mean, she can pull off anything, really, yeah, but
also everyone has some crazy little hats, like it's funny
in the summer of Cowboy Carter to think back, that's funny.
You know, these were more toy They look like children's hats,
(31:04):
like we've gone to a birthday party and stolen all
of their hats. So then she's looking across the party.
You know. I have gone and confronted this dude Greg
and said, you know, you gave me crabs and he's like, well,
you deceived me about your age, and that's worse.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah. I was like, not really, not really cream for that, dud.
You're not on antibiotics for that exactly. And then I say, oh.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Row up, I don't know what you Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, I don't either, but yeah, it's all really he's
he's quite uh, he's I think. I think what I'm
thinking about with the groupie girl and him as well,
is there's a bit of a like higher mightier than
now whatever, you know what I'm saying, like, uh, kind
of we're better than you idea, which I do kind
(31:53):
of feel like plays out now in the generational differences
where everyone's talking about gen Z, gen alpha, so many,
so many gens. Then the saddest, saddest sad part happens
where she looks across and sees you and as you
very very accurately said, you were just glowing and acting,
(32:17):
smiling and laughing, just happy to be there with him,
so glorious, so glorious, and he looks also so relaxed,
and he really did he really did. It shocked me. Yeah,
it really shocked me. And obviously it is horrific for Carrie,
and she tries to kind of save face but also
(32:37):
find out what the heck is going on. You very
politely excuse yourself, he says, the very lame I was
going to call you, which I just wanted to smack
him so hard when he said that, I know, like
that is a lame.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Excuse, but he did sound like he meant it. He
struggled with calling her.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I guess I think I do you think you're being generous?
Speaker 3 (33:01):
But yeah, I think I'm being generous.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I think you're being generous. But I mean, this is
the mindset that we all had, right, this is the
mindset that I would have had at the time. Oh,
he did want to call her, That's what I would
have thought. But then I'm like, but did you call her?
Did you think about the fact that you're running around
town with this gorgeous twenty five year old and you
haven't told the woman that you left that you're back
from Paris, which you basically yeah, you know, broke up
(33:26):
with her for or she broke up with him, however
you want to look at it anyway. Then she runs
to the beach. This is one of those times where
in my mind back then our production values were really low,
and in some ways they were, but in some ways
they're incredible. Like when she goes to the beach and
Miranda runs out there, she and the fireworks, Yeah, so incredible.
(33:46):
Oh my god. I don't know if they're real or
CGI or whatever you add back then, but they're incredible.
They're so good, and also just the mastery with which
Sara Jessica uses her cowboy to fake throwing.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Up unbelievable, right, yeah, really well doable and pull her
hair back at the same time.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
And Miranda comes and pulls her hair back, which is
a throwback to earlier in the episode where we see
the girls throwing up at the initial campfire we go
to with the young guys, Yes, and they're throwing up
and we're like, oh, we've got to leave, and then
they say, oh, but the sweet thing about twenty seven
girls is they're always there for their friends. And then
you see Miranda on the beach holding Carrie's hairbag. It's like,
(34:29):
it's so sweet and good, it's so good. And then
she says, I realized twenty something girls are just fabulous
until you see one with the man who broke your heart.
It's so sad. It's so so so sad. I know it,
I know it. Sorry, Carrie, I know. And it's just
(34:51):
going to go to some crazy places. That's the other
thing that's interesting watching it is because we know what happens,
you know, yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
You still can't wait to watch the next episode.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I know, I know, even if you've seen them hundreds
of times, like you know what's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
I know, you guys, I know, I know. But also
the little details are so good that like even if
you remember the big, the big picture things, you forget
all these tiny little details which are just so excellent.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, just like everybody costume props, costumes, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Costume props everybody. So let's just talk about it and
just like that, really quick, Michael Patrick calls you, says, hey,
can I pitch you something? Bridget We're like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then when you came had you it was right
after COVID. Had you gone back to work already on
blue Buds or yes, oh got it? So we had
(35:48):
to just borrow you from them. Then you had to
come spend the day with us a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
I think it was in the summer, so I think, yeah,
so I think that I was on hiatus and then
I was going back to work literally like the next
week after I shot.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
With you, probably the same week.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
And was it like for us coming back? It was
the same but very different. How did you feel coming
back after all the time?
Speaker 2 (36:18):
It felt very much the same, like for me. My
first scene I shot with you guys. Maybe it was
the outdoor one getting out of the car, I don't remember,
but I remember being upstairs in some window and you
guys were walking across the street, you know, across right
(36:38):
the street.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Together and looking up and I just remember thinking, oh
my gosh, I'm so happy to be back here.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
And you guys were so perfectly dressed, and the energy
and the you know, the friendships. So I got to
see it from way up here, but I saw the
crowds on the streets on either end, and it was
COVID right, And I think that you that show coming back,
(37:12):
You guys on the street in those.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
Outfits just revived this city.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
In neighborhood, like oh, life is coming back to almost
and that was.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
What the show was going to do.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, it fell on air like it just felt we
needed my We didn't know we were missing this, but
yeah we needed this. It's true's energy and I think
just all of us, you know, no one could work right.
So it was it was like the cruise couldn't work,
you know, the entire we were we were back, like, yeah,
we had a great we were back right away. Probably
(37:57):
if we finished in that March of COVID that first year.
We were back on working in October.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
That's amazing, and we just.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, that's so great. Yeah, since we had started Gilded
Age a little bit before us. But they had to
do some crazy things, like they had these bubbles that
they would put them in before action.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
We never got the bubbles.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah. I don't know what was happening, but I mean
it was I think there was so much unknown, right,
so people were worried and whatnot. And I remember the
masks and you know, you'd wear the mask holl the
end and then take them off and then you have
marks on your face, back in your face. But we
were just so happy to be working. Yeah, so amazing
to be working and to be working together. You know,
(38:41):
I would work with them forever. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Good.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, it's just been an incredible joy and thank you. Wait.
Oh wait, oh what's left Bridget?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Are you a Charlotte?
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
I have to answer this question.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I'm ish, Okay, I feel like Charlotte is no pressure.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
You don't have to be Oh no, no, no, okay,
I think I have is I think in life?
Speaker 1 (39:09):
You do?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:10):
I mean, if I may be so persumptuous. Yeah, I
mean you're certainly grounded, family oriented, loyal, you know, believe
in love, you know you you are all of them omitted.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I think Charlotte is a bit more of a people
pleaser than I am.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Well, good for you then that you're not. That's one
of her worst qualities. Okay, good, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Look, I love her, so I'm not going to rail
on her.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
But you know, people pleasing is exhausting and not really
great for your health. A lot of work. But like,
I feel like you your own and I think people
I feel I feel like and tell me if I'm wrong.
You're You're part in Blue Bloods in some ways, you know,
showed people you're kind of more your real self in
certain ways in terms of like the grounded, rigid, you know,
(40:00):
because you're so glamorous looking.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah, and it really was a like nice fit as
far as you know, Irish Catholic, that kind of family,
and like I grew up in some a lot of
a lot of those elements, right, and I learned a
lot from that character.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
But like I mean, I don't know if it I
don't know, I don't know. Some people will say to me, like,
you know, I'm part Charlotte park Carry or you know whatever.
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, probably true for myself,
Like I'm not all Charlotte, thank goodness, right, but but
I do. It's fun to think about it is fun
to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I'm happy I got to come back and hang out
with you.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
So happy, I mean, and I feel like there's a
lot more coming, even though you said you have very
little screen time, but like I would love to have
you back for that conversation when you do finally talk
to Carrie. I don't know if you're free, you know
what I'm saying, I'm free because that's so good. And
I also feel like the way that this lives in
people's lifeas you know, partly because you were so much discussed,
(41:03):
but also because the whole storyline is so complicated and
we were so much on Carrie's side. But is that
actually where we should have been, right? I don't think so.
I know, you know, it's really interesting to me, and
the fact that people would be upset with you because
you were, you know, in the way or ruining Big
and Carrie.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Oh my gosh, I know, I know somebody just said
to me, you know, I used to be all Carrie,
but now I'm now I'm all Natasha. Because of their
age difference, when this she became older, she became more
pro Natasha.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Absolutely, and probably more understanding of what Natasha was going through.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Which I's That's the joy of the show is that
as you age, you might have different perspectives on the storylines,
on the characters, all of those things.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
I know, You're a joy, so happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (41:57):
You for being here.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, I'll come back. You have me please?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
There you are you kidding me? M h m hmmmm.
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