June 24, 2025 • 28 mins
In a very special episode, Kristin is joined by her television daughter Cathy Ang aka Lily Goldenblatt. From getting the part as Lily to working alongside Kristin and Sarah Jessica Parker, getting recognized by fans and all the fabulous fashion…Cathy shares her unique perspective about becoming a part of the Sex and the City universe!! Plus, Cathy got to wear the iconic Carrie poncho but had a wardrobe malfunction while trying to put it on.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
you a Charlotte? All right, we are here with Kathy
aang and today we had the most wonderful day running
around Manhattan in our Hyundai, having a fun day in
our Hyundai together.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
There's a dream. I'm so excited to have you here.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I feel so grateful that I got to just spend
some time going around the city with you.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
This was really fun.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I mean, no, we don't get this opportunity to just
like kind of hang.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I know it. We're always gay. I am a busy
gebl so are you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And when we're normally together, we're at work, so obviously
it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So it was really fun.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And now we're here at the podcast, which is also
really fun because I have so many questions.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
For you, and I'm really excited to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Because Kathy, as I'm sure our listeners know, plays my
daughter on and just like that, and she plays Lily.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Now Lily.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We were just reminded earlier by one of our producers
who watched the first.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Movie on the plane, Lily is.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The reason the first wedding didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I know, kind of I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You know, there's some magic juju around my character believing
that Carrie is meant for other things, you know, Like,
so I don't know why my Aunt Carrie isn't supposed
to be.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You do have a really special relationship with Aunt Carrie.
Sometimes I feel jealous.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, I mean, I have a relationship with her, but
I we have so much time together, and like you,
as a mom on this show are much like closer
to a friend in ways that like, I mean, like, okay,
it's true though, It's like you are kind of your
character is so open and communicative with Lily about things
(01:54):
that I think I would have been really uncomfortable talking
about with my mom for sure. Yeah, you know, and
and I think it's like it's a wonderful window into
what both someone who is protected protecting someone and like
truly also having to teach someone life lessons like how
you can balance also being their friend. It's it's a
(02:17):
it's they do it well, I'm so hard thing to balance.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So like I'm so glad to hear that. Yeah, I mean,
Charlotte's motherhood journey is quite something and ongoing, ongoing, which
we love, we love so much.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I mean, I've been doing the rewatch and it's like
so lovely to watch that.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
To to go through that journey with you.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Right, to know that you're starting way back and where
we've been able to go is incredible. Yeah, I agree,
I agree, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Incredible to player.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
When people are say, oh, you know, doesn't it become
boring to play the same character, I'm like, no, not.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No, You're so different right, Like you have the same
dreams and goals and standards, but like we were talking
about in the car and our in our Hundai.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You are so grounded in like a different way. Thank
you as a mom, and like watching it is different
than also experiencing it as an actress with you, which
is very fun.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
But I love Shark.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Thank you. I'm so glad you do. So let me
ask you this.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Let's talk about Okay, so when did you first see
Sex and the City?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Okay, guys, I watched this in the city after I
know way what?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, you had not seen it when you auditioned for
just like that?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
No, did you tell us that you hadn't seen it
like before I auditioned?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Am I gonna make you cry already? Wait?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
What? No?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Okay, Okay, So here's the thing again, It's like I
kind of grew up in a more conservative environment where
like my parents would not have been comfortable with me
watching the show, of course, when also I really wish
my mom had watched this show. You know, there's so
many things that I feel like, actually, I think my
(04:01):
mom is a Charlotte, you know, and so like there's
many ways where I feel like she could have found
like more freedom in her life, and like, anyway, it
doesn't matter, but I didn't get to watch the show.
And then watching the show, actually after already being cast,
I was like, holy walk em holy you can say
whatever you want, sure, sure, but just like so so
(04:25):
kind of taken aback by the world that I was
about to enter. I kind of I didn't understand how
great of an opportunity I.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Had, honestly, like, you know, interesting, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And that probably would have freaked me out.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
More fully known, yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
It was like it it's so revolutionary.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I mean everyone has says this, but you know, I
know it, like everyone knows that it has changed so
many women's lives forever. So like a lot of pressure
coming in in a good way, of course, No, but
I get.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That, I get that. I mean, it must be.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I can't really imagine what it would be like to
come in in the trajectory of the life of the show,
you know, being Sex and the City, then doing the films,
then coming back to doing just like that. And so
you had auditioned, already gotten the part and then watched
Sex and the City.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Wow, okay, I watched. I watched the pilot because you know,
you do some research for sure. I watched the pilot
and the second episode okay, because also everything changes after
the pilot. But you know, you also just have to
get your self tape in of course, and.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Your self tape was super brilliant because you played the piano,
which was one of the key parts of Lily, because
Michael Patrick had already planned what was going to happen
at the beginning of the show, and so Lily being
able to play the piano was so important. And you
were so impressive that you're acting and then you're playing.
(05:52):
And did you sing for us then or did we
not know you could sing that?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I mean my actions might have sent some thing in
with it, because they always like, you know, I have
pieces where I'm playing piano and singing right, But I
know that I played like a really beautiful jazz piece
for very happy ending the musical making and.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I just love that kind of music.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And it's different from what Lily plays, of course, but
you know, I found some musicality and like I grew
up with music first. That was my first like art expression,
you know, and uh, it was very exciting anytime that
I could audition and like have a little music be
a part of it. And so Lily it was just like,
(06:39):
oh I am digging this and I didn't even know
how big this world, how juicy this world that she
was gonna like end would be.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So then you you do a deep dive on the show,
oh yeah, and then you were like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Then I was like, oh, but you can say anything,
oh whatever words.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I think what was lovely is that, I mean, working with.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
You every day.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Okay, everyone's gonna come on the podcast and talk about
how lovely you are, but.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's just true.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And like you, I pay them all you guys, secretly,
I'm paying them under the table right now, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But you know, like I hadn't ever been on a production, honestly,
I came from a theater background, So first of all,
it was like, this is just like a big change
in the style. Yeah, and then also the level of
production here. It's intimidating.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I get it. It's big. It's a big show.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's a big show, and everyone cares very deeply about
every little detail.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, but our first day together, I don't know if
you remember them.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Like our first day together was Future Burton.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Oh my god, on my chest, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yes, that's a great day.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That was really fun. To have cute pictures from that day.
We'll put them up on the Instagram, okay, perfect.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, yeah, and you just like immediately we're warm in
a way that like not everyone is as warm. Thank you,
and people, it takes energy to do that, and I
just could appreciate that, like you were making a space
for me.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean you and Alexa were very
important and it was a it was a big deal
for us that you guys were now like functioning individuals
in our story after me my character trying to get
pregnant for so long, then having you as little children,
which was one thing and played by different actresses obviously,
and like a whole thing, and now to have you
as like people we were planning to write storylines for.
(08:31):
It was crazy to think about. And you were so
perfectly cast, both of you, which was wonderful, Like you've
grown into you know the parts, and you're like so
at ease, and you know, it's wonderful to see.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, it took some time because it was also
like my my nerves, my confusion, my I I first season.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
My goodness, you were not confused.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Come on, I I.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Didn't know who who I was.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And I felt so grateful for how patient everyone was
on Everyone was very patient on set, but also like
there were a million things going on.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
First of all, I need to interrupt. You are so easy.
You might not inside feel this way, but you are
very easy. It does not take any work to be
patient with you or a little dream. All you want
to do is be perfect, which you know your Charlotte's daughter.
It's perfect that you want to be perfect. But also
like we just try to reassure you like you already
are perfect. That's all we have to do.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
That's the only thing.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You're so easy.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Kathy.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, okay, so I think something that has been really
lovely just being able to be like a recurring and
then now a series regular is like I get to
go on set and like.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I watch you guys.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I watched the Three Women, you know, and you're wearing
so many hats and you're like watching the way that
you are paying attention to everything going on, you know,
and like you just know everyone's job nowhere, every there's
just an awareness there that like I didn't have the
first season exactly how I was sharing was just learning.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
We've been doing this thing for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I know, but like it's like I'm so luck not
everyone can watch someone and like learn from them, like
you guys see, and so it's it's been an awesome
journey for me, just like Cappy to now feel way.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
More confident season three.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Like I'm actually like I feel good about season you.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, I feel really good about it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It should absolutely, I mean I think you've been a
dream the whole time and you should be proud of
all of it. I know it's hard to watch yourself,
as we talked about earlier, but I love season three
and it's so great to see you kind of stretching
in different ways, you know, and getting to do different
things and you know, as your mom on screen I
am like.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh my god, she's like a woman.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
It's so many.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Crazy I know, I know, but it's really fun and funny.
And when we have those family scenes, it is a complex,
you know, day and kind of picture because there's so
many people in so many different vibes going on, and
you know, it's always a big day for the crew
for us to be in Charlotte's apartment because everything is
so wonderful and perfect blah blah blah. But like, you're
very very easy. You need to know that you're very solid.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Well, thank you. We can stop complimenting each other. We
can just keep talking about it. I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, so you watched the show then you came on too,
and just like that, and then what was it like
to just go about your life and have the show on,
haveav you be part? Like? Was it weird? How do
people react in your life?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The show has opened up like so many opportunities for me.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Good.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I mean, that's just what happens.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Like it's there's a huge community, you know, and so
like I think, first of all, I learned about the
fashion world, you know, I just started to and it
was a whole other form of expression that like I,
as Kathy, was really uncomfortable with. Oh, I didn't really know,
you know, like I've been in costumes before, but I've
(12:07):
never really thought about myself like hey, this is who
I want to be today. I didn't really think about it.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Like from a creative yeah, yeah, thinking.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
About like hey I can actually be an art piece myself. Yeah,
and that art that is on me can also actually
like let me be a different person. I mean like, okay,
that's obviously what a costume does, but then power, yeah,
when you get to choose it every day. And so
like I think it was just really cool to start
finding a new medium, you know, to express myself and
(12:38):
like coming from music and then going to acting and
then I don't know, it's just like I feel like
that's that's what every artist like wants to be doing,
just kind of learning about something new.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So there was that aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And then it was also strange that like I would
ever be recognized. You know.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I went to a.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Bachelorette party in Texas and I gotta say I got
recognized like three times down one street and it was
really cool, and you know, like it's exciting. It's nerve wracking,
but like it's exciting to be a part of something
that brings so many people joy, which you just know
(13:17):
and no, it's true. Yeah, and so it was cool.
That part's cool.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I also just.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You know, I think, like I'm learning about acting.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Still, of course we are.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, we definitely a lot, And like I think every
day just trying to be more grounded on set is
a fun experience for me. Everyone on the everyone is
like constantly trying to challenge us, And yes, I had fun,
especially this season ya testing.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean, look, this is the whole job I think
is showing up, being grounded, trying to deal with whatever
different thing that day is going on. It might be
the props, it might be that it's too hot, like
we were talking about earlier. It might be that we're
on Governor's Island and we're too hot. There's so many
different challenges that you don't necessarily know until that day
when you show up, right, So the whole work is
(14:10):
to ground yourself and to be able to be present
and then to do your part as best as you
can from a place of being present.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And you do that. It's a nice set.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Everyone is so supportive and you know, like it's a
high pressure environment, like time is money and so like, yes,
there's people who are like we gotta go, we gotta
do things, and like when things go wrong, I'm really
amazed just like how everyone so manages, so manages to
find a solution and also like be quite gracious, you
(14:43):
know as an actor too, Like you get some nice treatment.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, you get some nice treatment.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And like I feel lucky to be on this kind
of production where like I can talk to the crew
and everyone just smiles.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
There's so nice. They've been nice. Oh good, I agree.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I can't that they've like I mean they've stayed altogether,
like so many people have been here for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's true. I mean we're lucky.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
A lot of people have also. We were talking earlier
to another guest, John Benjamin Hicky, who you met about
people who have like gone on to be huge deals.
Like we can't get them anymore on our show, you
know what I mean, Which is wonderful, right because they're
so talented. Yeah, and we're just like, oh wow, they're
over there directing. They used to operate camera a you know,
(15:30):
but it's a wonderful it's a wonderful thing. But but
you know, it's been great just in New York City
to be able to you know, the crews here are
incredible and they've been together. Some of them are like
fifth generation you know Union. Yeah, Like, it's incredible teamsters.
You know, so many, so many whole families, Like you'll
have brothers and cousins and you know, the dad will
(15:51):
have retired and you know, it's amazing. And also they
just work such crazy long hours.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Dude, I don't understand every time I get into a
car and have a conversation about just like being away
from your kids that long.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
It's a huge commitment.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's true. It's true.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So many of them have kids.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I know. The only good thing is that then you
get time off and you get to choose whether you
work or not. So that's the positive of the job,
is that you might, for instance, get a summer off
right or you might just choose to work.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So you can sometimes pick and choose, which is great.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And I know for myself as a mom, it's great
if you are having the luxury to be able to
make those choices. You know, sometimes it's just not a
great time, you know, so you don't do it, not
counting our show, of course, which I go. When I'm called,
I'm like, okay, we will make it work. But obviously
our show is a special situation. So wait, talk to
(16:42):
me a little bit about working with Sarah Jessica, because
you have some incredible scenes with Sarah Jessica. So you
had watched the show by the time you came, so
you knew, you knew, and were you scared? Were you intimidating? I?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Also, I feel like kind of embarrassed about the.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Friend what what?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Well, just the.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
First couple of times we got to work together again,
it's like I coming from like a theater background, and
she's just such a bro.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I didn't know, like, oh I don't have to cheat out.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
These like so oh my god, it's adorable.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Wait, I would never see you cheating out.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Well, that's because Sarah Jessica knows how to help you,
like just like think we're gonna they're gonna be cute
little things. Oh my god, you know there was Okay,
So in our first scene together is after that we
shot together? Oh actually no, it was the recital scene,
but like one of our first like one on one.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Scenes that we shot together was.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I was talking about I was mad at you about
I'm always mad at you, you.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
See, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I don't remember, but I went over to her house
and and.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, you have those special scenes with an Carrey.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, you're always so like you have these special scenes.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm like, you get to wear the poncho. Well, okay,
so I don't even get to wear the poncho.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Okay. Let me tell you though. I made this comment where.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I was like, because I had been struggling to put
to figure out where the arms worried.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It on.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
And then I told her I said like, oh, yeah,
that was a hard one to put on, don't I
think I even said like, don't worry about if, like
you can't figure I.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Don't know what I was.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh my god, I'm so embarrassed about this. And I
said like, don't worry about it if you can't figure
it out.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I don't know what I was. He just came out
of my mouth.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm sure she's Oh no, she was, and she was
so lovely and she was like laughing in such a
charming way, like, Oh, I don't have any problem with it.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
She's the master of her clothes for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But also the props, Like, give that woman twelve props
and she can handle it. I don't know how, and
she can match her continuity every single time.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
What is that special gift?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So that's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That was actually on our first day, or maybe on
a recital day, and I went over to video village
and I was like trying to figure out what I
had done with my left arm on what line?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
And then I remember that's when I.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
First oh, this was the time.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That was the time that Michael Patrick King was like
he wants everything to just be natural and real and
you shouldn't be thinking about how you look on camera.
And then he was like, no, no, no, I just don't
want you to think about anything and.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Just be Lily.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Hold on for one second.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Let's tell her viewers what we mean, because I do
realize we're using inside words. So video village on a
set is when so like the director and the writers
sit around in chairs around the monitors where they can
see what's happening on all the different cameras that are
rolling and the actors.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We're in the set usually, but then we also between.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Scenes, between action and cut, we can come over to
video village. But in sex and City World, and just
like that. We don't watch playback. Now some films, some
television shows, maybe an actor might say, hey, I want
to watch playback because they're going to learn from that,
like if they're happy with it, if they're not happy
with it, if they want to change their what they're
doing or recreate.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Something that they did.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
None of us ever do that, and Michael Patrick doesn't
really want us to be doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Also, we don't have time to.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Do that, oh no, because it takes a lot of
time to roll things back and then rewatch them. Sometimes
the director Michael Patrick or Julie or Cynthia or whoever
it is, might need to watch something back to make
sure we did something correctly, like if we're moving the
camera correctly or some technical thing.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So sometimes they'll watch it back. But if I ever
hear my.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Voice coming from video village, I run the other way.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm so scared. A good actor, Yeah, I don't want
to see that. I don't want to see that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But I did work with a director, Robert Rodriguez, where
he has these huge digital monitors, like kind of a
wall of them, and he would bring you over as
an actor and be like, let's watch it together and
be like no, no, You'd be like, let's watch it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Together and be like, oh, I have to.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You'd be like I want you to watch it together,
and you're like, okay, Robert, So you had to watch
it very stress.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It's very like people. People like it, people hate it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, people.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I mean we were talking about this, like whether or
not you actually watch the final product too. It's a
very it's a very personal thing for every actor because
you don't want your performances to be about the final
product obviously, but also like you want to celebrate like
what you guys have all made together.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And like for me coming onto the show and like.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Not really knowing who Lily quite was at that moment,
I had to watch everything in season one. God it
was really painful, but like you know, like I needed
to learn more of Lily and also like to understand,
you hear a note from a director, you do take
a certain way, and like you don't always know like
(22:07):
why right right, And once you watch it later on
you can kind of understand, Oh, that's what they've got
cooking for her, or oh that's why he that's something
that he.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Keeps asking me or she keeps asking me to lean into.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
So then now now maybe I won't watch myself.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Right I do.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I feel like there's different times in my career that
I felt different ways about it, and different jobs that
I felt different ways about it, and for for and
just like that. Part of why I want to watch
is because I want to see what everyone else was doing,
because we're not always with everybody else, right, Yeah, we're
so sad. I want yeah, yeah, you want to see
Sorita and you know that there's stuff that Nichole's in
that I'm not in, and I want to see it.
(22:47):
But sometimes it is hard to watch yourself. It really is.
It really is. I feel you on that.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Let's go back to you.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So we come, we come on the show and in
the beginning when it when we were first coming on
the air, and I mean this was right after COVID.
Also like when we first started the show, we were
just getting out of COVID where people could work again,
and we were I think all felt so lucky to
be working.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yes, I mean I know for.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Those of us who have been doing this job forever,
we were just so thankful to be able to make
a new show, to come back together. And then when
it came on the air, we were so nervous about
what everyone would say, and of course people have.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
A lot of things to say.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You know, how was that experience for you?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Well, okay, so you know that I am like really
less on social media at this point, right, which I
think has been like good for my brain, good for
my brain. But also I feel sad about some of
the connections that I have like missed because it is
like such a thing to celebrate being a part of
a show like this.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
But I mean, I think that like the reactions.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I don't really care as much why unless I feel like,
you know, it's it's something where I feel like, oh,
that's something that we could work on.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Later on, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And yeah, I mean, I that's not very.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Specifically, no, but that's it's well put, it's basically saying,
you know that it's not necessarily healthy for you to
be on to all the chatter because there's a lot
of opinions out there.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, And I did feel as though like people, especially
right after the first season, honestly, like I didn't feel
like people were giving everyone a chance to be a
different version of themselves, right.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I think that's true, and I do kind of understand now.
I have to say, at the time, I just knew
what we wanted to do, right, so my eye was
on that, like what our mission was. Yeah, But now
that I'm rewatching the show for the podcast, I have
a lot greater understanding of kind of what we've asked
(24:58):
of the audience over this time.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, because it's a long time, right.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And so for people who grew up with us the
first time, or we're our age and coming along whatever
it was, or newer people who are just seeing it,
you know, our characters have gone quite a distance. Yeah,
and you know, we killed the character that some people loved,
some people didn't, some people did.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I mean, we really have asked so.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Much of our audience, and I'm so grateful that we
even get the chance, right, Like, it's so crazy that
we even get to do the show.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It is.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
This feels like, I mean, it's unheard of exactly. So
I just try to I'm trying to think of like there's.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
No there isn't no, especially if you count the movies.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
These guys are just like everything all of my goodness,
I know.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
But it's never easy.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean, Michael and Sarah had to go pitch the
show like to HBO, like, you know, please, can we
explain the show to you?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
This is what we want to do.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
It's like whatever those who want to do. But I
feel like the world.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I agree, give it to them.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I agree, give it. Let me say this. Let me
say this. Kasey Bloyce, who runs HBO, who we've known forever.
To him, you know, we are a much much beloved entity.
So he really needed to know what is the new mission?
Is there a new mission? How are we going to
push the envelope in this day and age? Right, So
he had some really really valid questions because he cares
(26:20):
so much. So it wasn't like, well, you guys have
to prove yourself. It was more just like what do
you want to do creatively? What is the creative idea?
And in that way, he's totally right, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, yes, yes, it's just like that's meeting already about production.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yet I'm with you, Kathy, all right? Are you a Charlotte?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I really think I am? No, Okay, so I didn't
think this before. Actually, I'm I mean, okay, there's but
the core, this desire of hers to like build a
family and take care of people is something that I've
always wanted to do.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I've like looked forward to that, and like.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
There is something exciting about watching like a woman who
cares about that very traditional value who isn't really that
traditional in the end. Yeah, yeah, and just like she's
just so yeah, So I at least I aspire to
that kind of Oh I.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Think you absolutely are.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, I knew you there elements you know, I've come on,
I'm in New Yorker, so like I also now at
least and.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I am a working woman in this field.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So like, I feel like there's elements of me that
I've just pulled from each of these characters at this point.
But yeah, that like core, hm, that's in me.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I'm so glad. Yay. Kathy's a Charlotte. We cast her well, yeah, Charlotte,
you're you.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Are.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You're sometimes trying to pretend like you aren't, but you
really are.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay, good. This is going to conclude the first half.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Of our time with Kathy, and now we are going
to come back and we are going to rewatch a
really excellent episode called The Freak Show. Please come back, everybody,
Thanks for being here.
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are
you a Charlotte? All right, we are here with Kathy
aang and today we had the most wonderful day running
around Manhattan in our Hyundai, having a fun day in
our Hyundai together.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
There's a dream. I'm so excited to have you here.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I feel so grateful that I got to just spend
some time going around the city with you.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
This was really fun.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I mean, no, we don't get this opportunity to just
like kind of hang.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I know it. We're always gay. I am a busy
gebl so are you.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And when we're normally together, we're at work, so obviously
it's a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So it was really fun.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
And now we're here at the podcast, which is also
really fun because I have so many questions.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
For you, and I'm really excited to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Because Kathy, as I'm sure our listeners know, plays my
daughter on and just like that, and she plays Lily.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Now Lily.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
We were just reminded earlier by one of our producers
who watched the first.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Movie on the plane, Lily is.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
The reason the first wedding didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I know, kind of I mean.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You know, there's some magic juju around my character believing
that Carrie is meant for other things, you know, Like,
so I don't know why my Aunt Carrie isn't supposed
to be.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
You do have a really special relationship with Aunt Carrie.
Sometimes I feel jealous.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, I mean, I have a relationship with her, but
I we have so much time together, and like you,
as a mom on this show are much like closer
to a friend in ways that like, I mean, like, okay,
it's true though, It's like you are kind of your
character is so open and communicative with Lily about things
(01:54):
that I think I would have been really uncomfortable talking
about with my mom for sure. Yeah, you know, and
and I think it's like it's a wonderful window into
what both someone who is protected protecting someone and like
truly also having to teach someone life lessons like how
you can balance also being their friend. It's it's a
(02:17):
it's they do it well, I'm so hard thing to balance.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So like I'm so glad to hear that. Yeah, I mean,
Charlotte's motherhood journey is quite something and ongoing, ongoing, which
we love, we love so much.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I mean, I've been doing the rewatch and it's like
so lovely to watch that.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
To to go through that journey with you.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Right, to know that you're starting way back and where
we've been able to go is incredible. Yeah, I agree,
I agree, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Incredible to player.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
When people are say, oh, you know, doesn't it become
boring to play the same character, I'm like, no, not.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
No, You're so different right, Like you have the same
dreams and goals and standards, but like we were talking
about in the car and our in our Hundai.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Like.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
You are so grounded in like a different way. Thank
you as a mom, and like watching it is different
than also experiencing it as an actress with you, which
is very fun.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
But I love Shark.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Thank you. I'm so glad you do. So let me
ask you this.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Let's talk about Okay, so when did you first see
Sex and the City?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Okay, guys, I watched this in the city after I
know way what?
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, you had not seen it when you auditioned for
just like that?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
No, did you tell us that you hadn't seen it
like before I auditioned?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Am I gonna make you cry already? Wait?
Speaker 1 (03:38):
What? No?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Okay, Okay, So here's the thing again, It's like I
kind of grew up in a more conservative environment where
like my parents would not have been comfortable with me
watching the show, of course, when also I really wish
my mom had watched this show. You know, there's so
many things that I feel like, actually, I think my
(04:01):
mom is a Charlotte, you know, and so like there's
many ways where I feel like she could have found
like more freedom in her life, and like, anyway, it
doesn't matter, but I didn't get to watch the show.
And then watching the show, actually after already being cast,
I was like, holy walk em holy you can say
whatever you want, sure, sure, but just like so so
(04:25):
kind of taken aback by the world that I was
about to enter. I kind of I didn't understand how
great of an opportunity I.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Had, honestly, like, you know, interesting, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And that probably would have freaked me out.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
More fully known, yeah, because.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
It was like it it's so revolutionary.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I mean everyone has says this, but you know, I
know it, like everyone knows that it has changed so
many women's lives forever. So like a lot of pressure
coming in in a good way, of course, No, but
I get.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
That, I get that. I mean, it must be.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I can't really imagine what it would be like to
come in in the trajectory of the life of the show,
you know, being Sex and the City, then doing the films,
then coming back to doing just like that. And so
you had auditioned, already gotten the part and then watched
Sex and the City.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Wow, okay, I watched. I watched the pilot because you know,
you do some research for sure. I watched the pilot
and the second episode okay, because also everything changes after
the pilot. But you know, you also just have to
get your self tape in of course, and.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Your self tape was super brilliant because you played the piano,
which was one of the key parts of Lily, because
Michael Patrick had already planned what was going to happen
at the beginning of the show, and so Lily being
able to play the piano was so important. And you
were so impressive that you're acting and then you're playing.
(05:52):
And did you sing for us then or did we
not know you could sing that?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I mean my actions might have sent some thing in
with it, because they always like, you know, I have
pieces where I'm playing piano and singing right, But I
know that I played like a really beautiful jazz piece
for very happy ending the musical making and.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I just love that kind of music.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
And it's different from what Lily plays, of course, but
you know, I found some musicality and like I grew
up with music first. That was my first like art expression,
you know, and uh, it was very exciting anytime that
I could audition and like have a little music be
a part of it. And so Lily it was just like,
(06:39):
oh I am digging this and I didn't even know
how big this world, how juicy this world that she
was gonna like end would be.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
So then you you do a deep dive on the show,
oh yeah, and then you were like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Then I was like, oh, but you can say anything,
oh whatever words.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
I think what was lovely is that, I mean, working with.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
You every day.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Okay, everyone's gonna come on the podcast and talk about
how lovely you are, but.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
It's just true.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And like you, I pay them all you guys, secretly,
I'm paying them under the table right now, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
But you know, like I hadn't ever been on a production, honestly,
I came from a theater background, So first of all,
it was like, this is just like a big change
in the style. Yeah, and then also the level of
production here. It's intimidating.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I get it. It's big. It's a big show.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's a big show, and everyone cares very deeply about
every little detail.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, but our first day together, I don't know if
you remember them.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Like our first day together was Future Burton.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Oh my god, on my chest, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Yes, that's a great day.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
That was really fun. To have cute pictures from that day.
We'll put them up on the Instagram, okay, perfect.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, yeah, and you just like immediately we're warm in
a way that like not everyone is as warm. Thank you,
and people, it takes energy to do that, and I
just could appreciate that, like you were making a space
for me.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah. I mean you and Alexa were very
important and it was a it was a big deal
for us that you guys were now like functioning individuals
in our story after me my character trying to get
pregnant for so long, then having you as little children,
which was one thing and played by different actresses obviously,
and like a whole thing, and now to have you
as like people we were planning to write storylines for.
(08:31):
It was crazy to think about. And you were so
perfectly cast, both of you, which was wonderful, Like you've
grown into you know the parts, and you're like so
at ease, and you know, it's wonderful to see.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I mean, it took some time because it was also
like my my nerves, my confusion, my I I first season.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
My goodness, you were not confused.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Come on, I I.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Didn't know who who I was.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
And I felt so grateful for how patient everyone was
on Everyone was very patient on set, but also like
there were a million things going on.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
First of all, I need to interrupt. You are so easy.
You might not inside feel this way, but you are
very easy. It does not take any work to be
patient with you or a little dream. All you want
to do is be perfect, which you know your Charlotte's daughter.
It's perfect that you want to be perfect. But also
like we just try to reassure you like you already
are perfect. That's all we have to do.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
That's the only thing.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
You're so easy.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Kathy.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, okay, so I think something that has been really
lovely just being able to be like a recurring and
then now a series regular is like I get to
go on set and like.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I watch you guys.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I watched the Three Women, you know, and you're wearing
so many hats and you're like watching the way that
you are paying attention to everything going on, you know,
and like you just know everyone's job nowhere, every there's
just an awareness there that like I didn't have the
first season exactly how I was sharing was just learning.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
We've been doing this thing for thirty years.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I know, but like it's like I'm so luck not
everyone can watch someone and like learn from them, like
you guys see, and so it's it's been an awesome
journey for me, just like Cappy to now feel way.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
More confident season three.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Like I'm actually like I feel good about season you.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah, I feel really good about it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It should absolutely, I mean I think you've been a
dream the whole time and you should be proud of
all of it. I know it's hard to watch yourself,
as we talked about earlier, but I love season three
and it's so great to see you kind of stretching
in different ways, you know, and getting to do different
things and you know, as your mom on screen I
am like.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Oh my god, she's like a woman.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
It's so many.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Crazy I know, I know, but it's really fun and funny.
And when we have those family scenes, it is a complex,
you know, day and kind of picture because there's so
many people in so many different vibes going on, and
you know, it's always a big day for the crew
for us to be in Charlotte's apartment because everything is
so wonderful and perfect blah blah blah. But like, you're
very very easy. You need to know that you're very solid.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Well, thank you. We can stop complimenting each other. We
can just keep talking about it. I enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Okay, so you watched the show then you came on too,
and just like that, and then what was it like
to just go about your life and have the show on,
haveav you be part? Like? Was it weird? How do
people react in your life?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
The show has opened up like so many opportunities for me.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Good.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I mean, that's just what happens.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Like it's there's a huge community, you know, and so
like I think, first of all, I learned about the
fashion world, you know, I just started to and it
was a whole other form of expression that like I,
as Kathy, was really uncomfortable with. Oh, I didn't really know,
you know, like I've been in costumes before, but I've
(12:07):
never really thought about myself like hey, this is who
I want to be today. I didn't really think about it.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Like from a creative yeah, yeah, thinking.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
About like hey I can actually be an art piece myself. Yeah,
and that art that is on me can also actually
like let me be a different person. I mean like, okay,
that's obviously what a costume does, but then power, yeah,
when you get to choose it every day. And so
like I think it was just really cool to start
finding a new medium, you know, to express myself and
(12:38):
like coming from music and then going to acting and
then I don't know, it's just like I feel like
that's that's what every artist like wants to be doing,
just kind of learning about something new.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
So there was that aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
And then it was also strange that like I would
ever be recognized. You know.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I went to a.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Bachelorette party in Texas and I gotta say I got
recognized like three times down one street and it was
really cool, and you know, like it's exciting. It's nerve wracking,
but like it's exciting to be a part of something
that brings so many people joy, which you just know
(13:17):
and no, it's true. Yeah, and so it was cool.
That part's cool.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I also just.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
You know, I think, like I'm learning about acting.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Still, of course we are.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, we definitely a lot, And like I think every
day just trying to be more grounded on set is
a fun experience for me. Everyone on the everyone is
like constantly trying to challenge us, And yes, I had fun,
especially this season ya testing.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I mean, look, this is the whole job I think
is showing up, being grounded, trying to deal with whatever
different thing that day is going on. It might be
the props, it might be that it's too hot, like
we were talking about earlier. It might be that we're
on Governor's Island and we're too hot. There's so many
different challenges that you don't necessarily know until that day
when you show up, right, So the whole work is
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to ground yourself and to be able to be present
and then to do your part as best as you
can from a place of being present.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
And you do that. It's a nice set.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Everyone is so supportive and you know, like it's a
high pressure environment, like time is money and so like, yes,
there's people who are like we gotta go, we gotta
do things, and like when things go wrong, I'm really
amazed just like how everyone so manages, so manages to
find a solution and also like be quite gracious, you
(14:43):
know as an actor too, Like you get some nice treatment.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Yeah, you get some nice treatment.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
And like I feel lucky to be on this kind
of production where like I can talk to the crew
and everyone just smiles.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
There's so nice. They've been nice. Oh good, I agree.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I can't that they've like I mean they've stayed altogether,
like so many people have been here for twenty years.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's true. I mean we're lucky.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
A lot of people have also. We were talking earlier
to another guest, John Benjamin Hicky, who you met about
people who have like gone on to be huge deals.
Like we can't get them anymore on our show, you
know what I mean, Which is wonderful, right because they're
so talented. Yeah, and we're just like, oh wow, they're
over there directing. They used to operate camera a you know,
(15:30):
but it's a wonderful it's a wonderful thing. But but
you know, it's been great just in New York City
to be able to you know, the crews here are
incredible and they've been together. Some of them are like
fifth generation you know Union. Yeah, Like, it's incredible teamsters.
You know, so many, so many whole families, Like you'll
have brothers and cousins and you know, the dad will
(15:51):
have retired and you know, it's amazing. And also they
just work such crazy long hours.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Dude, I don't understand every time I get into a
car and have a conversation about just like being away
from your kids that long.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
It's a huge commitment.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's true. It's true.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
So many of them have kids.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I know. The only good thing is that then you
get time off and you get to choose whether you
work or not. So that's the positive of the job,
is that you might, for instance, get a summer off
right or you might just choose to work.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
So you can sometimes pick and choose, which is great.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And I know for myself as a mom, it's great
if you are having the luxury to be able to
make those choices. You know, sometimes it's just not a
great time, you know, so you don't do it, not
counting our show, of course, which I go. When I'm called,
I'm like, okay, we will make it work. But obviously
our show is a special situation. So wait, talk to
(16:42):
me a little bit about working with Sarah Jessica, because
you have some incredible scenes with Sarah Jessica. So you
had watched the show by the time you came, so
you knew, you knew, and were you scared? Were you intimidating? I?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Also, I feel like kind of embarrassed about the.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Friend what what?
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Well, just the.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
First couple of times we got to work together again,
it's like I coming from like a theater background, and
she's just such a bro.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
I didn't know, like, oh I don't have to cheat out.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
These like so oh my god, it's adorable.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Wait, I would never see you cheating out.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Well, that's because Sarah Jessica knows how to help you,
like just like think we're gonna they're gonna be cute
little things. Oh my god, you know there was Okay,
So in our first scene together is after that we
shot together? Oh actually no, it was the recital scene,
but like one of our first like one on one.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Scenes that we shot together was.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I was talking about I was mad at you about
I'm always mad at you, you.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
See, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I don't remember, but I went over to her house
and and.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah, you have those special scenes with an Carrey.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Yeah, you're always so like you have these special scenes.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I'm like, you get to wear the poncho. Well, okay,
so I don't even get to wear the poncho.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Okay. Let me tell you though. I made this comment where.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I was like, because I had been struggling to put
to figure out where the arms worried.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
It on.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
And then I told her I said like, oh, yeah,
that was a hard one to put on, don't I
think I even said like, don't worry about if, like
you can't figure I.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Don't know what I was.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh my god, I'm so embarrassed about this. And I
said like, don't worry about it if you can't figure
it out.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I don't know what I was. He just came out
of my mouth.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I'm sure she's Oh no, she was, and she was
so lovely and she was like laughing in such a
charming way, like, Oh, I don't have any problem with it.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
She's the master of her clothes for sure.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But also the props, Like, give that woman twelve props
and she can handle it. I don't know how, and
she can match her continuity every single time.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
What is that special gift?
Speaker 2 (19:10):
So that's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That was actually on our first day, or maybe on
a recital day, and I went over to video village
and I was like trying to figure out what I
had done with my left arm on what line?
Speaker 4 (19:24):
And then I remember that's when I.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
First oh, this was the time.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
That was the time that Michael Patrick King was like
he wants everything to just be natural and real and
you shouldn't be thinking about how you look on camera.
And then he was like, no, no, no, I just don't
want you to think about anything and.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Just be Lily.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Hold on for one second.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Let's tell her viewers what we mean, because I do
realize we're using inside words. So video village on a
set is when so like the director and the writers
sit around in chairs around the monitors where they can
see what's happening on all the different cameras that are
rolling and the actors.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We're in the set usually, but then we also between.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Scenes, between action and cut, we can come over to
video village. But in sex and City World, and just
like that. We don't watch playback. Now some films, some
television shows, maybe an actor might say, hey, I want
to watch playback because they're going to learn from that,
like if they're happy with it, if they're not happy
with it, if they want to change their what they're
doing or recreate.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Something that they did.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
None of us ever do that, and Michael Patrick doesn't
really want us to be doing that.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Also, we don't have time to.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Do that, oh no, because it takes a lot of
time to roll things back and then rewatch them. Sometimes
the director Michael Patrick or Julie or Cynthia or whoever
it is, might need to watch something back to make
sure we did something correctly, like if we're moving the
camera correctly or some technical thing.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
So sometimes they'll watch it back. But if I ever
hear my.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Voice coming from video village, I run the other way.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I'm so scared. A good actor, Yeah, I don't want
to see that. I don't want to see that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But I did work with a director, Robert Rodriguez, where
he has these huge digital monitors, like kind of a
wall of them, and he would bring you over as
an actor and be like, let's watch it together and
be like no, no, You'd be like, let's watch it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Together and be like, oh, I have to.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
You'd be like I want you to watch it together,
and you're like, okay, Robert, So you had to watch
it very stress.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
It's very like people. People like it, people hate it.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, people.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I mean we were talking about this, like whether or
not you actually watch the final product too. It's a
very it's a very personal thing for every actor because
you don't want your performances to be about the final
product obviously, but also like you want to celebrate like
what you guys have all made together.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And like for me coming onto the show and like.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Not really knowing who Lily quite was at that moment,
I had to watch everything in season one. God it
was really painful, but like you know, like I needed
to learn more of Lily and also like to understand,
you hear a note from a director, you do take
a certain way, and like you don't always know like
(22:07):
why right right, And once you watch it later on
you can kind of understand, Oh, that's what they've got
cooking for her, or oh that's why he that's something
that he.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Keeps asking me or she keeps asking me to lean into.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
So then now now maybe I won't watch myself.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Right I do.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I feel like there's different times in my career that
I felt different ways about it, and different jobs that
I felt different ways about it, and for for and
just like that. Part of why I want to watch
is because I want to see what everyone else was doing,
because we're not always with everybody else, right, Yeah, we're
so sad. I want yeah, yeah, you want to see
Sorita and you know that there's stuff that Nichole's in
that I'm not in, and I want to see it.
(22:47):
But sometimes it is hard to watch yourself. It really is.
It really is. I feel you on that.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Let's go back to you.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So we come, we come on the show and in
the beginning when it when we were first coming on
the air, and I mean this was right after COVID.
Also like when we first started the show, we were
just getting out of COVID where people could work again,
and we were I think all felt so lucky to
be working.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yes, I mean I know for.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Those of us who have been doing this job forever,
we were just so thankful to be able to make
a new show, to come back together. And then when
it came on the air, we were so nervous about
what everyone would say, and of course people have.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
A lot of things to say.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You know, how was that experience for you?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Well, okay, so you know that I am like really
less on social media at this point, right, which I
think has been like good for my brain, good for
my brain. But also I feel sad about some of
the connections that I have like missed because it is
like such a thing to celebrate being a part of
a show like this.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
But I mean, I think that like the reactions.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
I don't really care as much why unless I feel like,
you know, it's it's something where I feel like, oh,
that's something that we could work on.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Later on, you know.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And yeah, I mean, I that's not very.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Specifically, no, but that's it's well put, it's basically saying,
you know that it's not necessarily healthy for you to
be on to all the chatter because there's a lot
of opinions out there.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, And I did feel as though like people, especially
right after the first season, honestly, like I didn't feel
like people were giving everyone a chance to be a
different version of themselves, right.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I think that's true, and I do kind of understand now.
I have to say, at the time, I just knew
what we wanted to do, right, so my eye was
on that, like what our mission was. Yeah, But now
that I'm rewatching the show for the podcast, I have
a lot greater understanding of kind of what we've asked
(24:58):
of the audience over this time.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, because it's a long time, right.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And so for people who grew up with us the
first time, or we're our age and coming along whatever
it was, or newer people who are just seeing it,
you know, our characters have gone quite a distance. Yeah,
and you know, we killed the character that some people loved,
some people didn't, some people did.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I mean, we really have asked so.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Much of our audience, and I'm so grateful that we
even get the chance, right, Like, it's so crazy that
we even get to do the show.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
It is.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
This feels like, I mean, it's unheard of exactly. So
I just try to I'm trying to think of like there's.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
No there isn't no, especially if you count the movies.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
These guys are just like everything all of my goodness,
I know.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
But it's never easy.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I mean, Michael and Sarah had to go pitch the
show like to HBO, like, you know, please, can we
explain the show to you?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
This is what we want to do.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
It's like whatever those who want to do. But I
feel like the world.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I agree, give it to them.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
I agree, give it. Let me say this. Let me
say this. Kasey Bloyce, who runs HBO, who we've known forever.
To him, you know, we are a much much beloved entity.
So he really needed to know what is the new mission?
Is there a new mission? How are we going to
push the envelope in this day and age? Right, So
he had some really really valid questions because he cares
(26:20):
so much. So it wasn't like, well, you guys have
to prove yourself. It was more just like what do
you want to do creatively? What is the creative idea?
And in that way, he's totally right, you know.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, yes, yes, it's just like that's meeting already about production.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yet I'm with you, Kathy, all right? Are you a Charlotte?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
I really think I am? No, Okay, so I didn't
think this before. Actually, I'm I mean, okay, there's but
the core, this desire of hers to like build a
family and take care of people is something that I've
always wanted to do.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I've like looked forward to that, and like.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
There is something exciting about watching like a woman who
cares about that very traditional value who isn't really that
traditional in the end. Yeah, yeah, and just like she's
just so yeah, So I at least I aspire to
that kind of Oh I.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Think you absolutely are.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yeah, I knew you there elements you know, I've come on,
I'm in New Yorker, so like I also now at
least and.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I am a working woman in this field.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
So like, I feel like there's elements of me that
I've just pulled from each of these characters at this point.
But yeah, that like core, hm, that's in me.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I'm so glad. Yay. Kathy's a Charlotte. We cast her well, yeah, Charlotte,
you're you.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Are.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You're sometimes trying to pretend like you aren't, but you
really are.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay, good. This is going to conclude the first half.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Of our time with Kathy, and now we are going
to come back and we are going to rewatch a
really excellent episode called The Freak Show. Please come back, everybody,
Thanks for being here.
Host
Kristin Davis
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