August 4, 2025 • 32 mins
Supermodel, author, actress, and activist Christie Brinkley does not hold back as she analyzes Big and Carrie. Her take is coming in HOT! Kristin shares why Christie Brinkley inspires her and therefore why she wanted her take on The Man, They Myth, The Viagra.
In this episode, Samantha sleeps with a much much MUCH older man and Christie has an issue with a certain part of his anatomy! Plus, we meet Steve Brady for the first time!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you
a Charlotte? Hi?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm great? How are you? You know?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I mean hanging in there, rolling with it, you know,
looking back.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's super interesting.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And this is partly what I was thinking about with
your book as well, because obviously, I mean, we're here
to talk about the show.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
We will talk about the show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But I love that people that I grew up with
watching like yourself and also have gotten to meet over
the years and admired, are now writing about their lives
in such an interesting way of like all the changes
that have happened culturally, and how you've kind of been
right there for a lot of it. And I think
(00:47):
it's such a gift. And how was the experience of
looking back, you know?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It was? It was a really interesting experience. I have
kept journals for the past, like fifty years, smart and
sometimes it's just drawings on the pages. Sometimes it's things
that I glue in there, you know, souvenirs, ticket stubs
and leaves and whatever. But then it really guided me
(01:18):
for the book because I came across the journals and
I started reading, going wow, you know, I really have
had a lot of adventures, and whenever I tell my
adventure stories, people always say, you got to write a book.
So I started writing the book, and I quickly discovered
(01:39):
that some chapters I really didn't want to write about. Yeah,
but you know, those are the chapters I think that
my publishers were most interested. Of course, you know, I
love the daring do adventures and all of that, but
(01:59):
they're like, no, to know, people will relate because people
go through divorces and people go through all of that,
and it has to be relatable. And if you're going
to give the fun adventures and some of the stuff
that modeling has afforded me, you know, you also have
to say it's not always only the good stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Life is a series of moments, and if you're going
to write a book, you kind of have to give
the good and the bad, you know, the beautiful, the ugly,
the whole thing, worts and all.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So I mean, this is life, this is like and
it's life, whether you might be one of the most
beautiful women women in the world or not.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think that's also just such a really fascinating and
powerful thing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
But I also feel.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What I take from it is that you know, you
have been through so much and yet you still do
have this kind of beautiful, hopeful, you know, love of
adventure and openness, and that's what I admire so much.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh, thank you, And.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I feel like that's a gift.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's something that that I admire in your character.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
It's very related, really, it really is.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't even really have to ask you if you're
Charlotte because I kind of think I know.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I mean, I you know, my daughters, my daughters and
I have this on twenty four to seven. I know.
It's like it's like comfort food, you know, a world
so crazy. Yeah, we can put on an episode of
Sex in the City and the music wakes up and
(03:43):
then it's like being with all friends. Yeah, it really
is something that we really enjoy together. And we're always saying,
I don't know, I think I'm, I think I'm This
summer that you know, just does it shake your mind? Yeah,
staying you know, I think I've been a little bit
of everybody. Oh you know. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, Well we'll get to maybe more of that later
as we go through the episode. That's an interesting answer,
Chris Dad would not would have one. I would have
anticipated you saying, very interesting, Okay, I like it.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I like it. I feel like too.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's It's one of those things for me where I
didn't really ever rewatch until I started the podcast because
I just felt like, I don't want to live in
the past.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It was such a mixed thing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But on the other hand, and I hadn't seen the
episodes since we made them, and they would send them
on the VHS tape and we'd run home and watch them.
And I wouldn't really watch them on HBO at the
time either, because you know, I was living my life
and enjoying everyone else saying, you know, but this is
back in the day where we talked about it rather
than writing about it online of course. And I just
(04:52):
love to see hear the reaction, you know, the next
week or whatever, and now to look back on it
because so many people are now seeing it from Netflix
and rewatching it and telling me what you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Just said, people watching it with their kids.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yes, which you know, yeah, mind boggling, mind boggling, Like
we never would have dreamt this in a million hundred years.
But I love to hear the different generations and their
thoughts and feelings about the characters, about the bigger plot points,
which plot points or stories or themes still resonate. It's
(05:27):
super fascinating, but it is such a it's very kind
of therapeutic and interesting. Also, you know, I mean sometimes
I have unexpected feelings and sometimes I don't remember anything,
And there's parts of this particular episode, and I should
tell everyone we are rewatching the episode. It is two
o eight, so we're still in the second season. It
(05:49):
is The Man, the Myth the Viagra, a very mysterious
and loaded title, and it is directed by Victoria Hawkberg
and written by Michael Patrick King. And this one would
have been we would shoot two at a time, so
the last one that we watched was The Chicken Dance,
(06:10):
which Victoria also directed, so we would have been filming
them both simultaneously. And sometimes I find that I remember
one plot more than the other plot, you know, because
you're just so like overwhelmed basically in the moment. And
obviously it was a while ago, and we were always
up all night and you know, semi delirious. So let
(06:31):
me ask you too, I'd love to hear like when
we were doing this show in the beginning, which would
have been. You know, ninety seven is the pilot ninety eight?
Where were you were you watching? What were your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay, well, also I just have to mention, you know
the scene where mister Big sings, Yes, so I love that.
I was surprised he's got like a real Frank Sinatra voice.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Totally agree.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I just love that scene. But I think that that
was across the street from the Ambassador Theater where I
played Roxy Heart.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I think you're right, Oh my god, incredibles, like, oh
my god, that's the restaurant across the street. I think
you're absolutely right. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's a good one.
That's a good one. It is one of those things
too where I do have so many thoughts and feelings
and memories about all the locations because of course, and
(07:30):
we were around and there, and we were always trying
to film somewhere that was familiar to us and or
the moment, you know, the restaurant of the moment or
whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But I think that, in particular.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Was Chris's special place that he obviously yes, yes, yes, they.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Really do do the singing, and I bet he really
is a.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Regular yes, yes, yes, yes, which is incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Okay, so where you were in New York.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm trying to think of what year was that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Ninety seven, the pilot, ninety eight we came on the air.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, ninety seven, Okay, so that was I think Sailor.
Let's see, Sailor was born in ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh my gosh, amazing, amazing, that's what you were doing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, so ninety seven, I was actually just fresh out
of one divorce and just rushing into another marriage.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Got it, got it, got it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Didn't take time to learn the lesson.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You're human, babe, It's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And then you know, a year later, there's Sailor right now.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Was yeah, right, A lot going on, A lot going
on in Christy's life back then.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And when do you ever remember did you already have
your house at the beach at that point?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
At that point I had. I had moved lock stock
and barrel from the Hamptons to Colorado. All my stuff
was still in Colorado. So when I came back, my
apartment in the city was empty in summertime, and so
(09:20):
I wanted to look like despite the fact that my
life was in shambles and I had a brand new
baby boy. I was like thinking because see Jack was
so Jack was born in ninety five, Sailor was born
in nine. Got it?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Got it? Okay, this is around.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
This time of like crazyness in my life.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Lot chapters that were hard to write.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I understand, totally, totally, totally. I'm just wondering, like, were
you Were you aware of us so much then or
was it later when you were settled out out in
the Hampton's.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh I was aware. I mean, you know, when you
guys came on the scene, it was quite a big splash.
Everybody knew and everybody was talking about it. But I
didn't have time to watch a lot of TV, so
I was very aware, and I was aware of all
of you and the clothes and the looks and all
of all of that. But probably really when I think,
(10:29):
it was during quarantine that I really yes, no really,
because I really really I wasn't watching a ton of TV.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And yeah, yeah, I understand, but I during quarantine I
learned about streaming things and we would just like binge
watch oh got it.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And uh, and it was so great to look forward
to another session the next day.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So you're relatively recent interesting, So you have met all
of us, I assume over the years and like known
us without having seen the show.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yes, wow, okay, so fascinating.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I've seen the show, but not.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
In the Secrets in the got.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
It really into it the way and especially with two
girls on each side and our their opinions and write
all of that. It was really amazing to watch. I'm
super interested. I bumped in. I always have to tell
every every one of you, like I bumped into Cynthia
at a screening in the Hamptons. I was like, you
(11:46):
cannot believe your show is on all the time, you know,
and go through it and yeah, and recently I was. I.
I also saw Sarah Jessica over the summer. She had
her house right, really smart political kind of event that
(12:11):
I wished I'd had time to get more involved with.
But anyway, and again I had to go, even though
I was at the the opening also of and just.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Like that for me, I remember.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Sipping the cosmos and yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I mean I feel like you've been around the whole time, really,
you know, because you're kind of a fixture in the
Hampton's in New York and you know, I was always
aware of you being around.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And yeah, Kim, I would bump into quite frequently in the.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Hampton's right right, she had a house out there, Kenneth.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I remember we bumped into each other.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And oh that's nice, it's good. So it's funny.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's like you're you're kind of adjacent to the show
in my memory the whole time, you know, in terms
of New York and like friendly faces that we would see,
you know, supportive people that obviously I was aware of
my whole life because I was a huge fan. And
you know, I'll just say for any of the young
people listening, part of the reason that I was a
huge fan, which I think is important to say, is
(13:14):
that so Christy was this huge, huge model. She was
on Sports Illustrated and I can't remember the year, I
should look it up. But the thing that I loved
the most about you is that you had in terms
of the other presentation of models bodies, you had a womanly,
strong body, which as a young woman I really really
(13:35):
respected and appreciated. You were incredibly gorgeous, but you were
never like that twig looking you know, thing I.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Tried to have that look A couple of times, you know,
life's too.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Sure, absolutely, and you you gave that energy as well,
which was so important back then because nobody else was
you know, you were like the only one for a
long time who seemed like a real person who wanted
to live life and have fun and looked incredible, you know.
So it was like a powerful, powerful message to my
(14:10):
young self, which I really appreciate. Yes, so that you
had a special place in my mind because of that anyway,
you know, and then to see you around and you know,
it's just always very very cool, I thought, like very nice.
And also you were always so involved in so many
interesting things, you know, politically and like community wise, and
I really respect that of course. Also, yeah, let's talk
(14:44):
about the show. So this particular episode I didn't have
many memories of, but when I watched it, I was
really into it.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think it's a great episode.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I was surprised also, especially by the big developments, you know.
I I think that one of the things I find
most interesting. And I wonder how your experience of watching
with your daughters is in terms of the big carry relationship.
The first season, I was kind of horrified looking back
on it. I hadn't really remembered that he was so
(15:17):
aloof and kind of not giving to her and open.
But I also feel like back then we were also
used to that as women.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah. I mean it's funny because sometimes we look at
it and we go, you know, he seems very patient
with her, Yeah, and he's you know, he seems like
I mean, we kind of feel like he had a
worse rap than he actually was.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Okay, okay, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You know, and it seemed like Sarah Jessica, i mean Carrie,
uh huh, was con She seemed to be the one
that was trying to advance the relationship too quickly, you know,
get the key, get the leave something, you know, all
that happen, you know, like trying almost a little too
(16:14):
controlling of him.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh this is interesting, Okay, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Mean I felt like, I mean, it's great that she
speaks her mind and so what she needs. Yeah, but
also it seemed like when they would be having a
fine time, that she was making it into a problem.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
WHOA, Okay, thank you Christy. This is super interesting. My
problem is that because I was in it, right, I
never thought about these things objectively at all, And now
looking back on it, I have so many different feelings
all the time. Like also because I know her, and
it's so hard to separate the people from the characters
(16:56):
even when you know them, because they're so vivid on
the screen so great, right, So you know, in the
first season there were more more times where I felt
like she is kind of asking for more. And yes,
sometimes it does seem like it comes somewhat out of
the blue, but I think that's because Carrie is very
(17:17):
complex and she has a lot going on, right, so, like,
and she's holding it in, Like in this particular episode,
she's holding in that she doesn't like him looking at
these other women. And they do discuss that this was
very common, and they show all these other you know,
people on the street looking at other women, and obviously
we begin the show with all the beautiful women in
New York, which is one hundred percent true. So I mean,
(17:39):
and I also feel back then you just didn't think
twice about this. This was just the way life was
or whatever. And I think Samantha also has a line
that she kind of has a theme going on where
she's like, that's just their biology, that's just who they are,
you know, men are like that. Like she's always saying that,
which I find interesting because she kind of I feel
like Samantha is like her her frame that she sees
(18:02):
the world in is like primitive. You know what I'm saying,
Like primitive, and I'm going to be primitive and they're
going to be primitive, and I'm not going to expect more, right,
which is interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
But then with Carrie, I feel.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Like she does hold it in so when it comes
out is coming out of these kind of weird times
where everything kind of does seem good. But she's kept
so much in and I so relate to that, which has.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So many expectations that's true, supposed to be right, you're
so right, Like when in the scene when they're in
the Charming restaurant and he refers to her as his girlfriend,
Like that was like such a she was adorable in
that scene, so adorable. Oh, she managed to balance that
(18:48):
like the you know that she was living that her
dream come true at that moment. Yeah, and and she
but it's like that's important. She likes to define things.
She likes to have a name on it. Yes a key,
I'm the girlfriend and you're and you know, have put
(19:11):
put these boxes around you know, it's not as much freer,
like yes, like you know, she's ready to just live
and let live and true time for me, I'll take.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It right right, right, right right, which is great.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah. So, but you know one thing that I didn't
get a chance to watch the episode recently, but I
just remembered when I saw the title. I remember one
thing that bothered me about the episode as a seventy
two year old woman.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yes, the was how.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
How that man's ass and I love so hard, like
just one limbs ruined everything for it.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I know, it's really a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know, everyone's ass is going to go south so harsh, you.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Know, yes, of course, Christy, You're absolutely right. I mean
I was also surprised because I do vaguely remember this
storyline and I remember there being stress about it, where
like I think that that's not that actor's real, actual
naked friend because he didn't look old enough whatever that meant,
(20:35):
because it had to be enough that it would send
Samantha running from this, you know, kind of whatever glamorous
thing that she thought it was going to be, And
I remember there being stressed about it, and I think
it was based on someone's story, which is something that
the writers all not our stories, the actors, but the writers' stories,
so I think they're also in the beginning, which in
(20:57):
my mind, the second season is still somewhat of us
fine ending ourselves, our legs, like our element of comedy
mixed in with.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
The real you know.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So sometimes there was stress about going far enough that
it be funny. And when I saw it, I do
remember the stress, and then I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
We went too far, Like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
But also it is something that is not talked about,
which I think is so interesting, Like even still it's
not talked about, right, and we all are going to
age this. This is true, this is it right, So
like at some level we need to accept it and
you know, not shame it, which I hope we didn't
(21:41):
seem like we were doing. But I could see maybe
we went too far.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I felt like it was a little shaming, you know,
you know, because I feel like as a spokesperson for.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
The agent, oh my god, Christy, you don't have to
take on the whole thing, baby, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But okay, I love it that you're going to tell us.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I just I just feel like age is sort of
like that last Frontier in America that does need addressing,
but we have to be you know, kinder about it
because you know it too physical things shouldn't I mean,
I know that, you know, you can discuss that things
(22:27):
like that amongst girlfriends, and that's what the show was doing.
But it just felt like a little much. Huh.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I thought the same thing when it happened. I was like, whoa,
we went far. Oh my gosh, we went far. I mean, yes,
I think it's such a hard thing. And I think
about this now because of them, just like that. We
do deal with aging things and we get so much
flack about it. But when we came back to do
the show, it was the we wanted to do the show.
(23:01):
We thought, why shouldn't we still be telling these character stories.
Why aren't these stories interesting?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Maybe even if there was like a thing like okay,
but you know he is you know he Okay, there's that,
but he has other qualities.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
That are absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, no, it was not I mean, and that's I
think back to the early days of the show too,
I don't think, because we were supposed to be a comedy, right,
and so we were always trying to center ourselves in
the comedy, and when you do look at this episode,
one of the things that did strike me also was
that we're definitely as a show feeling more confident about
(23:44):
really having the Carrie Bigs storyline have its ups and
downs and go to the drama as well, right, which
at the time, there weren't that many single camera shows
that were doing both, you know, like because we were
on HBO and we didn't have to think about advertisers,
that we were able to have that kind of range, right.
(24:04):
But I think that when they took the range to
go to the dramatic, I think from a writing side,
they also thought, oh, we have to equal that out
in the comedy, right, and so therefore they pushed that
too hard. And at the time, I'm sure we were
not sensitive to aging because we were in our thirties
or whenever we were, you know what I'm saying. So
(24:25):
I see, I can see how it played out. But
I absolutely think that, you know, I think it is,
as you said, kind of the last frontier, Like we
are dealing with you know, sexism, we are dealing with racism,
We are dealing with all the different things, and agism
kind of just gets like, oh no, don't talk about that,
you know what I mean, Like it's interesting, but yeah,
(24:46):
on the other hand, there's this hunger to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, do you feel that?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And also, you know, maybe maybe shouldn't have been dating
somebody so young, and that's why they talk about it,
because maybe if he was dating somebody his own.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Age a good point.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, then it wouldn't have you know, been an issue.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Absolutely absolutely. Do you still follow Candace Bushnel? Candace who
you know, Origina And she lives out out of the
beach too, And I had her on and she had
so many facts and figures about you know, she's still
carry obviously like doing her work right, So she had
numbers she could tell you, like, you know, women over
fifty or this amount of dating and women over sixty.
(25:33):
And then she wrote this whole article about being on
Riah and being you know, is she's.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Dating in the Hampton's.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yes, it was so good but also so terrifying.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, Like it was fascinating because the men, you know,
like there's kind of this really extreme dichotomy between the
men who are the same age and the women who
are the same age. And the women look fantastic, Yeah,
yet the men who are that age. Don't want those women?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, I mean, what are we going to do?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I know, I know it's very I'm not on any
kind of dating app like that. But my daughter's Sailor.
She's so mischievous. She created she wanted to see what
kind of guys and she put like for like an
hour something. She put me up there with a name,
(26:26):
and she said, Mom, you're right not to go on
it because the same guys that you know said yes
to me, saying yes to you like it was no.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, oh I love this experiment.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, wow, smart Sailor, that is a really fascinating, fascinating
little experiment. I'm kind of scared and awed by the
whole situation that that has kind of evolved in the
dating world, and I don't I don't understand it, but
(27:04):
I would like to understand it better.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
But not for me just in general. I think, like
culturally it's really fascinating.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But I have incredibly beautiful friends who are on there,
and they're over fifty and nobody and these are incredible
women who own their own houses.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And have these incredible careers and travel the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
World and like, to me, all the things that I
ever wanted to be you know, everything, Like their kids
are grown, they're you know, they have accomplished so much,
yet the men their age are absolutely not looking for them.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, how can we still be at this place?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I think that what I find that what men like
to do is sort of be able to find somebody
that's very oh, that'll be impressed by every little thing
that they do, like, oh really, oh, you're taking me
to that restaurant.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I love your imitation. That's great and perfect.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And I do think I think there are a lot
of elements of this that are still true and that
would have been true when we originally were making the show,
you know, so like that's one of the things that
I also think is interesting about Samantha with that man.
That guy is so charming, you know, like as an actor,
he's so like his energy is so alive and interesting
(28:34):
that I can completely see why Samantha in that scene
would think like, oh, yes, maybe because obviously we know
her to be going out with younger men largely right,
or her own age or whatever like whomever. Right, But
he's got like a very vivacious kind of you know,
energetics and fun and funny and all the things. And
(28:54):
then he's giving her all the diamonds at dinner, which
is like kind of bizarre.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Do you remember this? There are his like very face.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
A dining room with the napkin and yes, the unrolling
of the napkins. It's a lot, man, it's a lot.
I'm sure you've been like through something like this in
your life. I have never experienced something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
For those who tuned in late, it's not mine a job.
It looks like yours.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It suits you, It suits you beautifully. It's beautiful. The
thing that I would think about with their scene though,
when they do, because you are kind of led to
believe like this might work, you know. I mean, I
(29:43):
also think it's a little interesting that Samantha would even
want to be married to anyone for ten years. Like
they talk about, oh, he's not going to last that long.
He even says to herself, like, you know, I'm probably
not gonna be around ten, ten, fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Maybe I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I've never heard Samantha ever say that she wanted to
get married, right, but it seems interesting that she's open
to it. And then when they do finally, after all
the diamonds go to the bedroom. I believe that the
voiceover from Carrie is something to the effect of, you know,
when he touched her, it was like a younger man.
When he kissed her, it was like a younger man.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
All of the.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Parts were working like a younger man.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
So you're really feeling like it's great, right, yes, and
then he walks away, which is so sad.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I think though, because she asked to dim the lights.
Oh yeah, she maybe suspected that that might be the case.
You're so right, because she was like, let's turn off
those lights.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You're so right, Yes, yes, I like.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It better, something to the effect of it's sexier.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I think she says it's sexier. Yes, that's so true.
That's so true.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
But then it's so.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Interesting to me that like it is very it's a
very superficial thing really, which is what you're saying that
everything feels great. Rate Like, if it feels great and
you enjoy him, isn't that enough.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Well, I'll tell you one thing. It made me run
to the mirror.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm sure you look amazing. Oh my god, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Can I see that?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You're adorable? You're adorable? Listen.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I think that the standards that women are held to
in terms of working out. We're fed this At least
I feel like I'm fed this continual thing about my
bone density and keeping my muscle mass.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I mean, we have to keep it going.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Think we have the luxury of being like I'll just
let it do whatever it's going to do back there.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Right now, it's her.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Own well being. And you know they say that that
the key is not to have to live to be
one hundred and fifty, but to be healthy. Yeah, every
day until the day you just you know, fall asleep
and don't wake up peace.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Absolutely, that's the dream, right. Yeah, it's all about health.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like vigorous and healthy right to the end.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Absolutely active.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
You have to be active and keep it going, keep
it moving, get out there in the world, all of
those things for your brain as well.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I know.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
It's super interesting.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I think how we talk about aging now as opposed
to when we were younger. I think it's coming along,
but I do think between the sexes there is still
this kind of massive gap.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yes,
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you
a Charlotte? Hi?
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I'm great? How are you? You know?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Pretty good?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I mean hanging in there, rolling with it, you know,
looking back.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's super interesting.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
And this is partly what I was thinking about with
your book as well, because obviously, I mean, we're here
to talk about the show.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
We will talk about the show.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But I love that people that I grew up with
watching like yourself and also have gotten to meet over
the years and admired, are now writing about their lives
in such an interesting way of like all the changes
that have happened culturally, and how you've kind of been
right there for a lot of it. And I think
(00:47):
it's such a gift. And how was the experience of
looking back, you know?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It was? It was a really interesting experience. I have
kept journals for the past, like fifty years, smart and
sometimes it's just drawings on the pages. Sometimes it's things
that I glue in there, you know, souvenirs, ticket stubs
and leaves and whatever. But then it really guided me
(01:18):
for the book because I came across the journals and
I started reading, going wow, you know, I really have
had a lot of adventures, and whenever I tell my
adventure stories, people always say, you got to write a book.
So I started writing the book, and I quickly discovered
(01:39):
that some chapters I really didn't want to write about. Yeah,
but you know, those are the chapters I think that
my publishers were most interested. Of course, you know, I
love the daring do adventures and all of that, but
(01:59):
they're like, no, to know, people will relate because people
go through divorces and people go through all of that,
and it has to be relatable. And if you're going
to give the fun adventures and some of the stuff
that modeling has afforded me, you know, you also have
to say it's not always only the good stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Life is a series of moments, and if you're going
to write a book, you kind of have to give
the good and the bad, you know, the beautiful, the ugly,
the whole thing, worts and all.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So I mean, this is life, this is like and
it's life, whether you might be one of the most
beautiful women women in the world or not.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I think that's also just such a really fascinating and
powerful thing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
But I also feel.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
What I take from it is that you know, you
have been through so much and yet you still do
have this kind of beautiful, hopeful, you know, love of
adventure and openness, and that's what I admire so much.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh, thank you, And.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I feel like that's a gift.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's something that that I admire in your character.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
It's very related, really, it really is.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I don't even really have to ask you if you're
Charlotte because I kind of think I know.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I mean, I you know, my daughters, my daughters and
I have this on twenty four to seven. I know.
It's like it's like comfort food, you know, a world
so crazy. Yeah, we can put on an episode of
Sex in the City and the music wakes up and
(03:43):
then it's like being with all friends. Yeah, it really
is something that we really enjoy together. And we're always saying,
I don't know, I think I'm, I think I'm This
summer that you know, just does it shake your mind? Yeah,
staying you know, I think I've been a little bit
of everybody. Oh you know. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, Well we'll get to maybe more of that later
as we go through the episode. That's an interesting answer,
Chris Dad would not would have one. I would have
anticipated you saying, very interesting, Okay, I like it.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I like it. I feel like too.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
It's It's one of those things for me where I
didn't really ever rewatch until I started the podcast because
I just felt like, I don't want to live in
the past.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
It was such a mixed thing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But on the other hand, and I hadn't seen the
episodes since we made them, and they would send them
on the VHS tape and we'd run home and watch them.
And I wouldn't really watch them on HBO at the
time either, because you know, I was living my life
and enjoying everyone else saying, you know, but this is
back in the day where we talked about it rather
than writing about it online of course. And I just
(04:52):
love to see hear the reaction, you know, the next
week or whatever, and now to look back on it
because so many people are now seeing it from Netflix
and rewatching it and telling me what you.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Just said, people watching it with their kids.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yes, which you know, yeah, mind boggling, mind boggling, Like
we never would have dreamt this in a million hundred years.
But I love to hear the different generations and their
thoughts and feelings about the characters, about the bigger plot points,
which plot points or stories or themes still resonate. It's
(05:27):
super fascinating, but it is such a it's very kind
of therapeutic and interesting. Also, you know, I mean sometimes
I have unexpected feelings and sometimes I don't remember anything,
And there's parts of this particular episode, and I should
tell everyone we are rewatching the episode. It is two
o eight, so we're still in the second season. It
(05:49):
is The Man, the Myth the Viagra, a very mysterious
and loaded title, and it is directed by Victoria Hawkberg
and written by Michael Patrick King. And this one would
have been we would shoot two at a time, so
the last one that we watched was The Chicken Dance,
(06:10):
which Victoria also directed, so we would have been filming
them both simultaneously. And sometimes I find that I remember
one plot more than the other plot, you know, because
you're just so like overwhelmed basically in the moment. And
obviously it was a while ago, and we were always
up all night and you know, semi delirious. So let
(06:31):
me ask you too, I'd love to hear like when
we were doing this show in the beginning, which would
have been. You know, ninety seven is the pilot ninety eight?
Where were you were you watching? What were your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay, well, also I just have to mention, you know
the scene where mister Big sings, Yes, so I love that.
I was surprised he's got like a real Frank Sinatra voice.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Totally agree.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I just love that scene. But I think that that
was across the street from the Ambassador Theater where I
played Roxy Heart.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I think you're right, Oh my god, incredibles, like, oh
my god, that's the restaurant across the street. I think
you're absolutely right. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's a good one.
That's a good one. It is one of those things
too where I do have so many thoughts and feelings
and memories about all the locations because of course, and
(07:30):
we were around and there, and we were always trying
to film somewhere that was familiar to us and or
the moment, you know, the restaurant of the moment or
whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
But I think that, in particular.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Was Chris's special place that he obviously yes, yes, yes, they.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Really do do the singing, and I bet he really
is a.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Regular yes, yes, yes, yes, which is incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Okay, so where you were in New York.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I'm trying to think of what year was that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Ninety seven, the pilot, ninety eight we came on the air.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Okay, ninety seven, Okay, so that was I think Sailor.
Let's see, Sailor was born in ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh my gosh, amazing, amazing, that's what you were doing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, so ninety seven, I was actually just fresh out
of one divorce and just rushing into another marriage.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Got it, got it, got it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Didn't take time to learn the lesson.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
You're human, babe, It's okay.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
And then you know, a year later, there's Sailor right now.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Was yeah, right, A lot going on, A lot going
on in Christy's life back then.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And when do you ever remember did you already have
your house at the beach at that point?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
At that point I had. I had moved lock stock
and barrel from the Hamptons to Colorado. All my stuff
was still in Colorado. So when I came back, my
apartment in the city was empty in summertime, and so
(09:20):
I wanted to look like despite the fact that my
life was in shambles and I had a brand new
baby boy. I was like thinking because see Jack was
so Jack was born in ninety five, Sailor was born
in nine. Got it?
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Got it? Okay, this is around.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
This time of like crazyness in my life.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yeah, that's a.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Lot chapters that were hard to write.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
I understand, totally, totally, totally. I'm just wondering, like, were
you Were you aware of us so much then or
was it later when you were settled out out in
the Hampton's.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh I was aware. I mean, you know, when you
guys came on the scene, it was quite a big splash.
Everybody knew and everybody was talking about it. But I
didn't have time to watch a lot of TV, so
I was very aware, and I was aware of all
of you and the clothes and the looks and all
of all of that. But probably really when I think,
(10:29):
it was during quarantine that I really yes, no really,
because I really really I wasn't watching a ton of TV.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And yeah, yeah, I understand, but I during quarantine I
learned about streaming things and we would just like binge
watch oh got it.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And uh, and it was so great to look forward
to another session the next day.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
So you're relatively recent interesting, So you have met all
of us, I assume over the years and like known
us without having seen the show.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yes, wow, okay, so fascinating.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I've seen the show, but not.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
In the Secrets in the got.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
It really into it the way and especially with two
girls on each side and our their opinions and write
all of that. It was really amazing to watch. I'm
super interested. I bumped in. I always have to tell
every every one of you, like I bumped into Cynthia
at a screening in the Hamptons. I was like, you
(11:46):
cannot believe your show is on all the time, you know,
and go through it and yeah, and recently I was. I.
I also saw Sarah Jessica over the summer. She had
her house right, really smart political kind of event that
(12:11):
I wished I'd had time to get more involved with.
But anyway, and again I had to go, even though
I was at the the opening also of and just.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Like that for me, I remember.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Sipping the cosmos and yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I mean I feel like you've been around the whole time, really,
you know, because you're kind of a fixture in the
Hampton's in New York and you know, I was always
aware of you being around.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And yeah, Kim, I would bump into quite frequently in the.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Hampton's right right, she had a house out there, Kenneth.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I remember we bumped into each other.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And oh that's nice, it's good. So it's funny.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's like you're you're kind of adjacent to the show
in my memory the whole time, you know, in terms
of New York and like friendly faces that we would see,
you know, supportive people that obviously I was aware of
my whole life because I was a huge fan. And
you know, I'll just say for any of the young
people listening, part of the reason that I was a
huge fan, which I think is important to say, is
(13:14):
that so Christy was this huge, huge model. She was
on Sports Illustrated and I can't remember the year, I
should look it up. But the thing that I loved
the most about you is that you had in terms
of the other presentation of models bodies, you had a womanly,
strong body, which as a young woman I really really
(13:35):
respected and appreciated. You were incredibly gorgeous, but you were
never like that twig looking you know, thing I.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Tried to have that look A couple of times, you know,
life's too.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Sure, absolutely, and you you gave that energy as well,
which was so important back then because nobody else was
you know, you were like the only one for a
long time who seemed like a real person who wanted
to live life and have fun and looked incredible, you know.
So it was like a powerful, powerful message to my
(14:10):
young self, which I really appreciate. Yes, so that you
had a special place in my mind because of that anyway,
you know, and then to see you around and you know,
it's just always very very cool, I thought, like very nice.
And also you were always so involved in so many
interesting things, you know, politically and like community wise, and
I really respect that of course. Also, yeah, let's talk
(14:44):
about the show. So this particular episode I didn't have
many memories of, but when I watched it, I was
really into it.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think it's a great episode.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I was surprised also, especially by the big developments, you know.
I I think that one of the things I find
most interesting. And I wonder how your experience of watching
with your daughters is in terms of the big carry relationship.
The first season, I was kind of horrified looking back
on it. I hadn't really remembered that he was so
(15:17):
aloof and kind of not giving to her and open.
But I also feel like back then we were also
used to that as women.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah. I mean it's funny because sometimes we look at
it and we go, you know, he seems very patient
with her, Yeah, and he's you know, he seems like
I mean, we kind of feel like he had a
worse rap than he actually was.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Okay, okay, yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You know, and it seemed like Sarah Jessica, i mean Carrie,
uh huh, was con She seemed to be the one
that was trying to advance the relationship too quickly, you know,
get the key, get the leave something, you know, all
that happen, you know, like trying almost a little too
(16:14):
controlling of him.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh this is interesting, Okay, Okay, I.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Mean I felt like, I mean, it's great that she
speaks her mind and so what she needs. Yeah, but
also it seemed like when they would be having a
fine time, that she was making it into a problem.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
WHOA, Okay, thank you Christy. This is super interesting. My
problem is that because I was in it, right, I
never thought about these things objectively at all, And now
looking back on it, I have so many different feelings
all the time. Like also because I know her, and
it's so hard to separate the people from the characters
(16:56):
even when you know them, because they're so vivid on
the screen so great, right, So you know, in the
first season there were more more times where I felt
like she is kind of asking for more. And yes,
sometimes it does seem like it comes somewhat out of
the blue, but I think that's because Carrie is very
(17:17):
complex and she has a lot going on, right, so, like,
and she's holding it in, Like in this particular episode,
she's holding in that she doesn't like him looking at
these other women. And they do discuss that this was
very common, and they show all these other you know,
people on the street looking at other women, and obviously
we begin the show with all the beautiful women in
New York, which is one hundred percent true. So I mean,
(17:39):
and I also feel back then you just didn't think
twice about this. This was just the way life was
or whatever. And I think Samantha also has a line
that she kind of has a theme going on where
she's like, that's just their biology, that's just who they are,
you know, men are like that. Like she's always saying that,
which I find interesting because she kind of I feel
like Samantha is like her her frame that she sees
(18:02):
the world in is like primitive. You know what I'm saying,
Like primitive, and I'm going to be primitive and they're
going to be primitive, and I'm not going to expect more, right,
which is interesting.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
But then with Carrie, I feel.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Like she does hold it in so when it comes
out is coming out of these kind of weird times
where everything kind of does seem good. But she's kept
so much in and I so relate to that, which has.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So many expectations that's true, supposed to be right, you're
so right, Like when in the scene when they're in
the Charming restaurant and he refers to her as his girlfriend,
Like that was like such a she was adorable in
that scene, so adorable. Oh, she managed to balance that
(18:48):
like the you know that she was living that her
dream come true at that moment. Yeah, and and she
but it's like that's important. She likes to define things.
She likes to have a name on it. Yes a key,
I'm the girlfriend and you're and you know, have put
(19:11):
put these boxes around you know, it's not as much freer,
like yes, like you know, she's ready to just live
and let live and true time for me, I'll take.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It right right, right, right right, which is great.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah. So, but you know one thing that I didn't
get a chance to watch the episode recently, but I
just remembered when I saw the title. I remember one
thing that bothered me about the episode as a seventy
two year old woman.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yes, the was how.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
How that man's ass and I love so hard, like
just one limbs ruined everything for it.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
I know, it's really a lot.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know, everyone's ass is going to go south so harsh, you.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Know, yes, of course, Christy, You're absolutely right. I mean
I was also surprised because I do vaguely remember this
storyline and I remember there being stress about it, where
like I think that that's not that actor's real, actual
naked friend because he didn't look old enough whatever that meant,
(20:35):
because it had to be enough that it would send
Samantha running from this, you know, kind of whatever glamorous
thing that she thought it was going to be, And
I remember there being stressed about it, and I think
it was based on someone's story, which is something that
the writers all not our stories, the actors, but the writers' stories,
so I think they're also in the beginning, which in
(20:57):
my mind, the second season is still somewhat of us
fine ending ourselves, our legs, like our element of comedy
mixed in with.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
The real you know.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So sometimes there was stress about going far enough that
it be funny. And when I saw it, I do
remember the stress, and then I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
We went too far, Like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
But also it is something that is not talked about,
which I think is so interesting, Like even still it's
not talked about, right, and we all are going to
age this. This is true, this is it right, So
like at some level we need to accept it and
you know, not shame it, which I hope we didn't
(21:41):
seem like we were doing. But I could see maybe
we went too far.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I felt like it was a little shaming, you know,
you know, because I feel like as a spokesperson for.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
The agent, oh my god, Christy, you don't have to
take on the whole thing, baby, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
But okay, I love it that you're going to tell us.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I just I just feel like age is sort of
like that last Frontier in America that does need addressing,
but we have to be you know, kinder about it
because you know it too physical things shouldn't I mean,
I know that, you know, you can discuss that things
(22:27):
like that amongst girlfriends, and that's what the show was doing.
But it just felt like a little much. Huh.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I know what you mean.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
I thought the same thing when it happened. I was like, whoa,
we went far. Oh my gosh, we went far. I mean, yes,
I think it's such a hard thing. And I think
about this now because of them, just like that. We
do deal with aging things and we get so much
flack about it. But when we came back to do
the show, it was the we wanted to do the show.
(23:01):
We thought, why shouldn't we still be telling these character stories.
Why aren't these stories interesting?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Maybe even if there was like a thing like okay,
but you know he is you know he Okay, there's that,
but he has other qualities.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
That are absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No, no, it was not I mean, and that's I
think back to the early days of the show too,
I don't think, because we were supposed to be a comedy, right,
and so we were always trying to center ourselves in
the comedy, and when you do look at this episode,
one of the things that did strike me also was
that we're definitely as a show feeling more confident about
(23:44):
really having the Carrie Bigs storyline have its ups and
downs and go to the drama as well, right, which
at the time, there weren't that many single camera shows
that were doing both, you know, like because we were
on HBO and we didn't have to think about advertisers,
that we were able to have that kind of range, right.
(24:04):
But I think that when they took the range to
go to the dramatic, I think from a writing side,
they also thought, oh, we have to equal that out
in the comedy, right, and so therefore they pushed that
too hard. And at the time, I'm sure we were
not sensitive to aging because we were in our thirties
or whenever we were, you know what I'm saying. So
(24:25):
I see, I can see how it played out. But
I absolutely think that, you know, I think it is,
as you said, kind of the last frontier, Like we
are dealing with you know, sexism, we are dealing with racism,
We are dealing with all the different things, and agism
kind of just gets like, oh no, don't talk about that,
you know what I mean, Like it's interesting, but yeah,
(24:46):
on the other hand, there's this hunger to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, do you feel that?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
And also, you know, maybe maybe shouldn't have been dating
somebody so young, and that's why they talk about it,
because maybe if he was dating somebody his own.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Age a good point.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Yeah, then it wouldn't have you know, been an issue.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Absolutely absolutely. Do you still follow Candace Bushnel? Candace who
you know, Origina And she lives out out of the
beach too, And I had her on and she had
so many facts and figures about you know, she's still
carry obviously like doing her work right, So she had
numbers she could tell you, like, you know, women over
fifty or this amount of dating and women over sixty.
(25:33):
And then she wrote this whole article about being on
Riah and being you know, is she's.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Dating in the Hampton's.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yes, it was so good but also so terrifying.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, Like it was fascinating because the men, you know,
like there's kind of this really extreme dichotomy between the
men who are the same age and the women who
are the same age. And the women look fantastic, Yeah,
yet the men who are that age. Don't want those women?
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yeah, I mean, what are we going to do?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
I know, I know it's very I'm not on any
kind of dating app like that. But my daughter's Sailor.
She's so mischievous. She created she wanted to see what
kind of guys and she put like for like an
hour something. She put me up there with a name,
(26:26):
and she said, Mom, you're right not to go on
it because the same guys that you know said yes
to me, saying yes to you like it was no.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, oh I love this experiment.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, wow, smart Sailor, that is a really fascinating, fascinating
little experiment. I'm kind of scared and awed by the
whole situation that that has kind of evolved in the
dating world, and I don't I don't understand it, but
(27:04):
I would like to understand it better.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
But not for me just in general. I think, like
culturally it's really fascinating.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
But I have incredibly beautiful friends who are on there,
and they're over fifty and nobody and these are incredible
women who own their own houses.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
And have these incredible careers and travel the.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
World and like, to me, all the things that I
ever wanted to be you know, everything, Like their kids
are grown, they're you know, they have accomplished so much,
yet the men their age are absolutely not looking for them.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, how can we still be at this place?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I think that what I find that what men like
to do is sort of be able to find somebody
that's very oh, that'll be impressed by every little thing
that they do, like, oh really, oh, you're taking me
to that restaurant.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I love your imitation. That's great and perfect.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And I do think I think there are a lot
of elements of this that are still true and that
would have been true when we originally were making the show,
you know, so like that's one of the things that
I also think is interesting about Samantha with that man.
That guy is so charming, you know, like as an actor,
he's so like his energy is so alive and interesting
(28:34):
that I can completely see why Samantha in that scene
would think like, oh, yes, maybe because obviously we know
her to be going out with younger men largely right,
or her own age or whatever like whomever. Right, But
he's got like a very vivacious kind of you know,
energetics and fun and funny and all the things. And
(28:54):
then he's giving her all the diamonds at dinner, which
is like kind of bizarre.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Do you remember this? There are his like very face.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
A dining room with the napkin and yes, the unrolling
of the napkins. It's a lot, man, it's a lot.
I'm sure you've been like through something like this in
your life. I have never experienced something like that.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
For those who tuned in late, it's not mine a job.
It looks like yours.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
It suits you, It suits you beautifully. It's beautiful. The
thing that I would think about with their scene though,
when they do, because you are kind of led to
believe like this might work, you know. I mean, I
(29:43):
also think it's a little interesting that Samantha would even
want to be married to anyone for ten years. Like
they talk about, oh, he's not going to last that long.
He even says to herself, like, you know, I'm probably
not gonna be around ten, ten, fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Maybe I don't.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I've never heard Samantha ever say that she wanted to
get married, right, but it seems interesting that she's open
to it. And then when they do finally, after all
the diamonds go to the bedroom. I believe that the
voiceover from Carrie is something to the effect of, you know,
when he touched her, it was like a younger man.
When he kissed her, it was like a younger man.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
All of the.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Parts were working like a younger man.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
So you're really feeling like it's great, right, yes, and
then he walks away, which is so sad.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I think though, because she asked to dim the lights.
Oh yeah, she maybe suspected that that might be the case.
You're so right, because she was like, let's turn off
those lights.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
You're so right, Yes, yes, I like.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
It better, something to the effect of it's sexier.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
I think she says it's sexier. Yes, that's so true.
That's so true.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
But then it's so.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Interesting to me that like it is very it's a
very superficial thing really, which is what you're saying that
everything feels great. Rate Like, if it feels great and
you enjoy him, isn't that enough.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
Well, I'll tell you one thing. It made me run
to the mirror.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I'm sure you look amazing. Oh my god, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Can I see that?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You're adorable? You're adorable? Listen.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I think that the standards that women are held to
in terms of working out. We're fed this At least
I feel like I'm fed this continual thing about my
bone density and keeping my muscle mass.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
I mean, we have to keep it going.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Think we have the luxury of being like I'll just
let it do whatever it's going to do back there.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Right now, it's her.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Own well being. And you know they say that that
the key is not to have to live to be
one hundred and fifty, but to be healthy. Yeah, every
day until the day you just you know, fall asleep
and don't wake up peace.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Absolutely, that's the dream, right. Yeah, it's all about health.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Like vigorous and healthy right to the end.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Absolutely active.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
You have to be active and keep it going, keep
it moving, get out there in the world, all of
those things for your brain as well.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
I know.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
It's super interesting.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I think how we talk about aging now as opposed
to when we were younger. I think it's coming along,
but I do think between the sexes there is still
this kind of massive gap.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yes,
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