September 29, 2025 • 39 mins
Former SNL fan favorite Rachel Dratch is here talking sex! This is in Rachel's area of expertise as she was a guest star on And Just Like That and was directed by Cynthia Nixon. From sharing a cosmo with SJP and portraying Miranda on SNL to having to analyze Charlotte's sex performance in this episode, you won’t want to miss a second!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you
a Charlotte? Hi?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi, Hi rach Children. Hello, so exciting me too. Nice
to see you.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We are here at Are you a Charlotte? Thanks for
listening and watching or whatever you're doing.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You guys, It's.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good to be here. Rachel is here.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We have a couple things to talk about, but technically
we are here to rewatch an episode of Sex and
the City from season two, so kind of back in
the day. It is called was It Good for You?
It's a very interesting episode. But also those of you
who watch all the shows would know that Rachel joined
us on and just like that, which was really really fun.
(00:45):
She was in the episode bomb Cyclone, which was a
cool episode Cynthia directed.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yes, and let me just say it was like it
was one of those most like, I mean, I watched
Sex and the City back it was my Sunday night ritual,
so I mean, I love did and still do. But
so then when I got the call that I was
gonna be that was like a moment that was I
hate the term bucket list, but it was. It was
a bucket list moment until then when I walked in
(01:12):
to the read through. I mean you don't understand. Maybe
you do because maybe everyone that comes in is like this,
but I was just like I was having a ton
I was like, there's everybody, there's all the cast and
it was right, yeah, but I mean it was like
in the most fun way good. Everyone was really friendly.
But it was also just like anytime you're on something
that you used to watch before you ever like you know,
(01:34):
dreamed of making it. But anyways, so yes, that was
it's hard to it's hard for us.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I mean people do say this and it's super interesting.
I mean for me and you come from Saturday Night Live,
which to me, there's nothing more intimidating or frightening or
scary or like, I literally don't know how you guys
do it, Like I mean I technically know how you
do it, but the idea of that pressure, you know,
like like wow, wow wow, and the you know, every
(02:03):
week creating that show and not knowing like having to
prove yourself and you know, not get cut the skin
and the like.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh lord, lord lord.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But the read throughs are the closest that we come
because Michael Patrick is old school. You know, he came
from old school sitcoms. Right, so, especially back in the
day of for instance, this this particular episode we're going
to talk about was in.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Nineteen ninety nine, which is kind of funny to say, right,
like like a long time ago. He would We would
have our read.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Throughs back then, and they were have you shot at
Silver Cup? Yeah, it's so durable and like weirdly old fashioned.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We would have them in a like a room probably
this size, like.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
A much smaller room back then, and if you didn't
land a joke, you know, in the read through, that
joke would get.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Cut right, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, and once we.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Then did it and just like that, we were often
just this huge room I mean so many people.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, and we would have the iPad so that everyone
back in La at HBO could be watching. Did you
notice that there were iPads set up like this, like
semi innocuously, you know what I mean, But they're filming
you for for everyone back.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
In La La Land to be watching, which was interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And then there'd be like just like so so so
many people at those read throughs, And I would say
to my younger pretend children, you know on the show.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Like you guys like really like he your like maybe
like what do you mean, because.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You know it's a different world now, right.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Right right, and just be like so quiet over there
and the read through like yeah yeah yeah, don't get
cut yeah right right.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, but it's it's obviously you were fully on and wonderful,
but like they want to see it, yeah, you know,
they want to see it.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I didn't even realize that we were being watched from Afar,
but I know makes.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I know, right, the new the new technology is interesting,
but it's better than having like even more.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
People in the room, right, that's true.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, but if does have like almost like a live
theater element, yes, read throughs.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, it's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yes, oh well that was my you know dream come true.
Then I was when I was in I was in
a scene with SJP. Can I call you that?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I was in a scene with Sarah Jessica Parker. I'm like,
I need to say this because it's kind of unprofessional,
but like while I was in the scene, like I
was in the scene, but then there was also like
the other Rachel, like I'm in the scene with Sara,
So I was like fangirling and trying to act a
but it was super fun though, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And then you went for a drink? Is this right?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
This is so funny. So we were shooting in the
hotel because this big like you know, conference was the scene.
And so then it was the end of the day
and Cynthia was directing and Sarah Jessica Parker was like, well,
I'm gonna go get go get a drink at the
bar like end of the day, and she's like, do
you want anything? And I was first of I was
like because I got very like shy around my idols,
(05:07):
like right now. But anyways, so she's like, do you
want to drink? And I was like, oh, sure, I'll
have a margarita because that's my usual go to. And
then she was like, well, I'm going to get a cosmo.
And then I was like, oh, I have to get
the cosmo. It was like make a wish like wow,
some auction item, like have a cosmo. So I was like,
(05:30):
I'll have a cosmo. Since she came up with these
styrofoam cups over the bar, I don't know why, but whatever,
it was like the take away something. But then the
funny thing is like Cynthia, who I also you know,
don't know well at all, like who is the director?
Like there I am on the set at the end
of the day, it was like boozing it up, and
I wanted to be like, I've never done this because
(05:51):
it seemed I still holding my object.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I know, we put that down, that's right now, But
Jessica gave you the go ahead, you're not.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But I was a little bit like I'm drinking on
the job kind of. But I did get to have
a cosmo with.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Love.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It was a big moment, right And.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
What was it like having Cynthia direct? Was that bizarre?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I mean, like I don't know how the show usually works,
so it was just you know, she was a good
director and she was give me good notes and but
you know, nothing to like intrusive. So she did a
great job in my opinion. But you know, I didn't
know if she was directing there all the time, Like
I didn't know if that was her first time, because
you know, you're just like when you come into someone's set,
you're just sort of like, I'll go where they tell me.
Of course, of course, of course, was that your first
(06:34):
time director?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
No bomb cyclone was not her first time directing. She
directed the episode where she has a experience with Chay
in Carrie's apartment.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
In the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, she directed herself can you Believe?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And then the next episode where I find out about
it in the park and I yell at her, she
also directed that can you believe that?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I mean directing your own sex scene. I know that's
a whole it's situation, situation, right, Wow, I know she's
so brave. It would be difficult.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I know she did so great though, so great.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Now Michael Patrick was also around because when we went
to the scene.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
First of all, this is something that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That happens frequently to me, which is bizarre. I would
read a script and we would do the read through,
of course, and I would perceive it as happening one
certain way, like for me, And this is more to
do with me than to do with the script.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I thought that scene where she has an interview with Chay.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And Carrie is in the bed because she's had her
hip replacement thing or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
It is a hip replace right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I thought it was going to be funny, but it
really really wasn't like, it really really was.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Very intense and scary. I mean, like scare a lot
of sounds from what I recall.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Sounds and then like Carrie is so stressed, right, and
then she has to pee in a Snapple bottle? Do
you remember, right? See, when I read that, that seemed
comic to me.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I could see that, yeah, you know, So.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Then when it came out, I was like, WHOA.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
That's interesting right now, that could have been a comic thing, right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And then when the scene comes in the park where
I find out and I'm talking about ships sailing.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
For some reason, I don't know why, I can't remember
you remember weird things about your acting.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, it's true for you. I can remember things.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That aren't necessarily the most important thing, right, Right. So
there's we're outside where Battery park and there are ships
out in the ocean, and I'm comparing something to ships sailing.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Maybe her and and Eigenberg slash Steve I don't know,
meaning Miranda and Steve, and it's Michael Patrick's there.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Cynthia is technically directing, so she.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Set up the shot, she's set up the blocking, We've
rehearsed all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I think it's kind of a Charlotte scene where I'm like,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, you're attracted to a non binary person.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's a moment.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's not a big deal, like I thought it was
like that like Charlotte being like, oh.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
He comes to me, Michael Patrick, and he's like yell
at her. Oh oh, and he goes, you are the
moral compass here. I was like, oh, I'm the moral compass.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Oh my gosh. Oh so you had to be all
stern or something. I had to really for this, like
in this much detail.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But I know which is fine. I supposed to.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Have a card kettle.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It came to me because I was thinking about her directing, right,
and then it's so interesting because she was in the scene.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Right, and I don't know in the scene.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
If she would have told me to shout at her
Sarah right. But Michael was like just kind of whispering
in my ear, like you have to carry the way
of the moral reality that she has now kind of
irrevocably broken her marriage to Steve.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I know, I was not looking at it with this
like people for me, Okay, So like it's just one.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Of those interesting things where like, yes, she was directing,
but she was also in that scene. So he was
kind of like the little birdy in my ear to
kind of in a way enlive in that scene for her,
you know what I'm saying, In a way where when
you're directing yourself, you can't necessarily do though she probably
would have done that because this is the thing that
(10:36):
I remember and bomb Cyclone definitely, So that was Bomb Cyclone.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
She directed the second season.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
She wasn't able to direct the third season because she
was doing Gilded Age and just like that at the
same time, which was insanity. But she's amazing obviously and
can handle all of it. She really wanted to direct,
and they were like, no, you're you know, there's not
enough of you bomb Cyclone. I remember, she really she was.
She didn't have a a huge storyline for herself in
(11:02):
that and so she directed us.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
A lot, like a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I was like, Cynthia, it's so many notes. I can't remember.
I can't remember. But you were perfect in the read through.
I remember that, so you didn't need any notes.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Well, I had kind of a goofy part, so that
was good for me. I didn't have to have an
interlude in the kitchen, so I mean, I few intimacy
coordinator needed, Noah, but I love the.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Whole, the whole, like you know, what is your take
on the character that you played, which is you know, this.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Is kind of funny, Like so I just saw her
as this. So I played this like event planner for
Carrie's book tour and I had set up. But then
I come in and we had worked together, like work
together long ago. We had tried to write a screenplay
together that never got off the ground. But anyway, I
come in like remember me, and like, so I just
saw myself as a pest. So that's why I just
(11:57):
saw myself as But then the funny and I kept
you that word in my mind and I'm a pest.
Then the cool thing is when I came in for
my costume fitting, they had earrings for me there were
house flies, because you know how they go, so I mean,
you know, yeah, they wacky. I guess what they take
the costumes, but they were they were house flies and
(12:18):
they also had a big insect necklace.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Wow, And I was like, this is so like I know, Moll,
Molly and Danny are like on another level of communication.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Who you knew there were house fly earrings? I mean
I feel that I can look very closely my ears
and that scene and I will say.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It so much.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And so you your character is named Carrie.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But I used to be named Karen. But I said,
not a good time for white women named Karen. So
I go by I go by Carrie now like k
E R R. Wife. It was like carry cars to
really trying to like make the connection. Yeah, with Carrie.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It was too funny. It was too funny. I'm so glad.
I think that they I.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Don't know the details because I'm not in the writer's room,
but I think they wrote that hoping that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You would do Oh yeah, I'll just believe that to
be true. No, that was so fun I'm so there's
some things like that, you know, wish you could be
on a certain show. And I never even dreamed of it.
So that was a good call to get. Yeah, yeah,
you know how you.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Guys used to spoof used on Saturday Night're like, oh, yeah,
there was me.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
No, it was so I played Okay, I did a
horrible Christina Aguilera was the host, and I don't know
when she played Samanthamanda and I got sort of.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
A sis played me.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Who did Kristen Wig? No, she wasn't. She was on
yet she played me later, but I was not too
good impression. No, I mean, I'm just gonna be honest
my impressions. Like if I see someone like, oh I
could do that, that's one thing. But if you just
get told like you're doing Cynthenix, I just wasn't, you know,
I don't have that savant thing. So I just threw
(13:51):
on the red wig and crossed my fingers.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
But I forget who played I forget who played me too,
because I feel.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Like it happened more than once that they poof.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They probably knew guys, and I mean it was like
such a kind of an honor really to get spoofed,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And at one point someone spoofed me.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Wearing poke it out like a poke it up pussy bow,
and I was like, well, that's all you have to
do is just put on the blouse side, right, It's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, I'm sure they've done many over the years. Yeah,
like maybe after I was there too, but that's the
one I remember that Christina, Oh, she was like she
just said, like I think she came in like well
I can do these people, and so like that. So
then they write the scene. Yeah, that's that's how that works.
I said it scooped.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
That's cool. I love it. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So this is my other thing I want to ask you.
So when you say that it was kind of amazing
and interesting to come on a show you'd already watched,
what was your experience of watching, Like when did you start?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh, oh, my gosh, well I remember I remember the
Fall of ninety nine. It was my first season on
sn olt. Oh, and so I just had this like
little apartment on the Upper West Side, and like there
was a while where I had no furniture because the
movers like lost my When I first got the job,
You're like so excited, and I remember like in this
little apartment with like just sitting on this little like you, Matt,
(15:15):
but I had the TV and that was my Sunday night, Rachel. Like,
I like, as soon as you hear that HB like ard, yeah,
that chord, it just gives me a good feeling. And
then like the opening music of it, like it just
I feel like it's just so encapsulated, you know, life
in your thirties, trying to make it in wherever New
(15:37):
York or wherever you know. Yeah, So it was definitely
my like appointment television, but I can't. I must have
watched when it first came out, too, but I mean I've.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Only been this is. I think we came out in
ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's the second season, so I mean, and they were
only thirteen in the first season, and then we just
like started just bam bam bam, trying to get it,
get them made because people were watching, right, didn't really
at this point. People keep coming to my podcast and
telling me like.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
It was the biggest hit. I'm like, no, second season
was not the biggest yet.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean it was it was for us great, right
because we didn't really ever perceive what was coming, you
know who could, right? But then to me, third season
it was kind of like bumped up.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It took time.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Because HBO was kind of new to original programming and whatnot, you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Know what I mean. So I think like like.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Women were like quietly watching it, you know what I mean,
And then it just kind of building built the built,
the built, and we were just talking to any press
people who would ever talk to us, Like we were
just like begging people like will you please talk to us?
Which is I need to think about now wow, yeah,
in the olden day media.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Because I just I was telling you, I just watched
like eight of them in a row on a plane,
and some of them, like they're very poignant, like so
they really get you, but they're also funny. Like that's
what I love. I mean, I love anything that's like
both things.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I agree because it's very hard to do ye, so
hard to do this, and I don't think people necessarily realize.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Not should they. I guess it's not their job, right,
but like to.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Be able, and I love that they allowed us to
try to do all the different things.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, you know, and when.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You look back, especially in the beginning, well, in the
beginning beginning, there's just darkness, like the men are just
like Okay, I mean I felt when I watched it
at least, I mean, it really took me back in
a bad way.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
In the nineties.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Okay, Yeah, I'm talking about the very beginning. It was
really based on Candace's column, and as Candace told me
when she came on, that was really based on people
just telling her, like people would come up to parties
and be like I did, yeah, like kind of cool,
kind of scared.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, the specifics yes, you guys all hit on like
you know the guy who this and the guy that
you could tell that was someone's real story. Fun.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, yeah, yes, So once we veer off from Kansas's
own column, it's our writers' stories or people they know.
So there was a rule that had to be only
once removed. It couldn't be like someone heard something from someone.
That had to be like my friend and blah blah blah,
this happened to my friend.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, which is everyone thought it was our stories. Thank god.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
No, it would very hard to act your own stories,
you know, that would.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Be very weird, thank god, But we did.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
There was a time where I remember we would you know,
you're just sitting there for so long on a set
like blah blah blah blah blah, and at a certain point
the writers would walk up.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
We just stopped talking. Scared.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Wait say that again.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I didn't say what we stopped when the writers came. Oh,
we didn't want them to hear us saying anything.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I thought you were being told to be quiet on
the set. I mean sometimes.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Probably we were.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Probably we weren't chattering, but you.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Know what I mean, we were chatting a lot. But
if the writers came.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
We would just be like, oh god, we don't want this.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
We don't want them to be hearing it. It's important,
stop stop talking. But it really was not us.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Okay, okay, let's talk about this episode because this episode
very interesting. As I was telling you when we walked in,
there's some episodes I watch and I remember so much.
There's some episodes I watch and I remember almost nothing.
This is close to almost nothing. And I think it's
because it's towards this end of the season and you're
so exhausted, and we would work all night long untill
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the sun came up. So many days a week, yes,
like certainly Thursday, Friday, and yeah, Saturday morning, but then
we would start Monday at five am. So it was
you were just trying to turn your sleep around. That's
all you were trying to do, right, and like take
care of your feet, you know, oh.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
In those heels. Yeah, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So this episode is called was It Good for You?
And it's directed by Dan Allgrahant, which is also really interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
He was a like a.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Indie filmmaker friend of Sara Jessica somehow, which I need
to ask her how I think this might be his
second episode, which is cool, or third, And Michael Patrick
King wrote this one, which is so nice. So he
had come on first season, and then he's like writing
more and directing more as time goes on, and at
some point he basically takes over and so many, so
(20:17):
many manner ins I'm not even gonna name them.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well, name them when we get to them.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So this whole episode is so sad and I didn't
remember the storyline at all. This is a very sad
storyline us Charlotte, because the whole episode starts with Charlotte
having sex with some guy we've never seen in her bed.
Turns out he's asleep. He falls asleep when they are
having sex.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What on earth? I mean, I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Do you remember this well? I don't remember seeing this
one back when, but I did my homework, thank you,
thank you ages, but I didn't remember.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't remember this either.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I mean, wow, sad, yeah, and and and sad for Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And then very soon we.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
See Charlotte just having like a whole little breakdown and
Carrie's apartment and Carrie trying to be so nice and
saying like.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh, you know, was he just you know, and also
the guy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So I'm i'm I'm like making little sexy noises whatever,
and then I'm like, uh, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Kevin Flynn? Is his real name?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Brahma Walker, doctor Brahma, the orthopedist, the orthopedic surgeon.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, yes, and that's his whole thing he's saying is
I was up at five in the morning, have a
very hard job. At some point, he says he had
three carpal tunnel syndrome, you.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Know, surgery, surgery, thank you, that's the word.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And then someone else wrote in my notes that they
take like twenty minutes, which is kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
But he anyway, he's falling asleep, which really I cannot
really actually imagine that this, that this could happen, but
I guess it must have happened somebody.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yes, And if that has happened to you out there,
I'm really sorry.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I feel like that really would be painful to one's ego.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Don't you think I would imagine?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So, yes, right, it can't even it's weird.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It's interesting. I mean, it must have happened to someone
because it ended up in here.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's funny because when I was watching this, I wasn't
even thinking of it. It's so bad because in the
context of the like everything that happens on the show,
this seemed like, No, that's a little more tame.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's a good point. That's a good point. It is
a little bit innocent in a way.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, that's true. But Charlotte was upset.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Mean, it's just hard to like, if you really think
about it, it's hard to really imagine this happening.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Like it would be weird. I feel like you'd be like.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I mean, I guess it would depend if it was
like a one time thing or a constant thing, and
then you would be a little more concerned.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I also want to choose their dating, right, Like, it's
not even like when you've been in a relationship for
a lot of time.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Right, exciting? Yes, right, theoretic theoretically it should be exciting.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, But so what I this is one of the
things I love when I'm rewatching. I just like to
carry a storyline through, right, rather than switching back and
forth like how this show does so one of the things.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So we cut to Carrie what's my name?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Charlotte's telling Carrie about it, and crying like so upset,
you know, very Charlotte, and Carrie's being so sweet, like
her little sweet you know, when people talk about this
whole thing that happened really during COVID, I think about, like,
Carrie's not a good friend, Carrie's a narcissist.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I feel that. Yeah, And I was like, I never
bought into that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Me neither me neither.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I'm team Carrie.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, I didn't even get that.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I know, I.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Agree, it seemed really odd to me. I mean, do
you think too, like the Internet is its own animal
and for sure just does some weird stuff sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And then they all everyone jumps.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
In Yeah, I don't. I don't get how that came up.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Neither, because like in this particular scene, like there's so
many instances, especially way back where I mean, she's such
a sweet friend, like she's just trying to make me
feel better, trying to make me tea she didn't know
what else to do.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And then I say, did anyone ever fall asleep having
sex with you? And she's like, well, well no, it's
so sweet.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And then the thing that I really love and I
do remember this part is that Charlotte's solution or you know,
plan for this is that she needs to take a
tantric sex classes, right, And I do remember in the
nineties there was a fair amount of conversation about tantric sex.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Do you remember this, I don't know, I mean not.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
What I mean is like not particular the nineties, like
I've heard this time contempt. Yes, yeah, got it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I remember in the nineties, I think because also I
was in La right ww yoga okay, yeah, was booming,
and so the tantric sex kind of comes out of yoga.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah. So I remember hearing sting practices this.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
One hundred That was a big no. But I think
that's how most people know. Yeah, very impressively. Dang man,
we're impressed.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, no, not at all, interrupted anytime you want.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I think that's how people know about tantric sex. Was stinky,
you know what I mean, which I feel like was later,
but who knows. I think it was all.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I mean, I knew people who I don't know if
I'm not going to say their name, but I knew.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I trained as a yoga teacher in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Ok yeah, yoga works when there was only one yoga
works on Montana.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Did you ever go there, No, I went to one here.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, because now they're everywhere. Okay, they're everywhere, which is amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But this is back in the nineties. It was before
I started working a lot. I was auditioning a lot,
which is really hard, obviously, and my solution to the
stress of that was to go to yoga every morning.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
That was like, my that's good, you know, like how
to get through it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And then I thought, well, gosh, you know, maybe I
should just do this because I loved it. But at
that point in time, this was early nineties, people thought
the yoga was a religion. Like they still didn't really
realize now it's something that you can just do for
your body and your mind and it's not a religion religion,
you know, there's still kind of woo to use your word.
(26:20):
I told Sarah Jessica that you're coming on and that
you had a podcast, and she said, what's it gold
And I said, I think it's called the Woo or
maybe it's woo woo woo.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Whether it was wooo, it's woo woo woo woo. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I love it because I am the Queen of the
Woo Woo ool.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've done all this.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
By the way, I noticed it on your Wikipedia the
your pie season. Your birthday's a day after mind, but
we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Yeah, I'm really taking you off topic in many ways, Rachel,
I look it go off okay, and Drew Barrymore cho Yes,
she and I have the same bird.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Oh my god, amazing, yeah, amazing. I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Pisces queens.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We all need to do woo woo things. That's why
we're very wo right. We just got it.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Is the most sign without a doubt, without a doubt,
and you know what, I'm proud of it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I don't must be right.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, yay, Okay, I'm so glad.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I'm so glad. Okay, we got that done. Okay. Back
to the so I always wondered.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I remember when this was happening, and I wondered because
also we would all sometimes do yoga in scenes.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Do you remember those episodes? Yeah, there's one where all
four of us are doing yoga. There's one where Kerrie
and I are doing yoga. And I don't know if
that was me related.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Because I think I did talk about it kind of incessantly,
but also It was very much like the new thing
at the time, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
The tantric sex thing. I remember this part.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Because it was one of those scenes where we're just like,
oh my god, how are we ever going to get
through this? Charlotte signs all the girls up to go.
It's not their idea, it's her idea, and I have
to beg them at the coffee shop, like please come,
and even Samantha agrees to come, and they come and
there's this lovely yes.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
The casting on the People was so perfect.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
It was so good right.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It was like chef's kiss, perfect and not easy to do, though.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I remember the stress of like who is going to
be teaching and who's going to be receiving or whatever
you want to call it, demonstrating to oh my god,
that guy was like the perfectly cast I know.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And I remember New York.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
At the time. I am like, we are all so mortified.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
They're just so mortified that these people, these older actors,
have come onto our show to do.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
This insane thing.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
When I watch it now, I really enjoyed watching it,
partly because I know I remember that we could barely
get through it, like it's one of those things you
can barely get through.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Like Sir Jessica is laughing her real self.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh I love that, Yes.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Me too, And I am trying to be my best
Charlotte self.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I'm taking those notes. Man, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
In it to win it, you know what I'm saying,
which I love. Like to me, that's very kind of
quintessential Charlotte. I'm also telling them to be quiet, which
I love so much.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I'm like, yeah, which is really enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And they're all over there like cooking up, and you know,
the lady has to tell them to stop laughing. And
Samantha is also so sweetly because of her own storyline,
which we'll get to in a second, She's so sweetly
kind of engaged in like rooting for them in a way.
And then Sir Jesics like Harry is just laughing her head.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And then Cynthia you know this, My producers reminded me
that we did.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You ever know that Michael Patrick did it Writers Podcast,
And just like that, Well.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I heard. I haven't listened to it, but I've heard that
it does.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, it's really good, and it's very in depth in
terms of the writer's room and what they were thinking
more for and just like that, it didn't do one
for Sex and the City.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Though I wish they would.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Exac'd be super interesting, and we went on when it
was the twenty fifth anniversary, I think of the show, Sarah,
Cynthia and I went on his podcast and we relived
the scene.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I don't know why it came.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Up random, really random, but one of the reasons that
came up, I think was like, there haven't been that
many times where different people have consistently broken, right, Like
for Sarah Jessica to break, it's very rare, very very rare, right,
and this was one of those times, like she could.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Not stop, Oh my god. And then Cynthia has to
have the yes.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
The substance, well maybe not the substance.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Substance, so what should we say, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We go to the tentric sect class, which we think,
I believe, is just going to be this lady describing
things to us, and she does do that, but then
at a certain point she brings out her husband, who
is this ponytailed, you know, lovely older man, and he
lays on a pillow in front of us and she
does the Lingham massage. I believe she calls it, and
(31:33):
which is like whoo, and our heads very carefully. At
one point my booklet that I'm taking my notes in
blocks there's a very creative blocking of any kind of
private parts, which I remember was a lot of the
stress of filming that, you know, separate from the fact
that we couldn't stop laughing. But then so it's the
(31:56):
massage goes on for quite some time, I mean quite
some time, right, and we're all doing our different you know.
Charlotte's taking notes and trying to figure out what the
lady's doing, and Samantha's like, oh girl, you know, and
Carrie's laughing, and Miranda's leaning forward like well, this is
very interesting. And then all of a sudden the man comes.
(32:17):
I guess I can say that, I can say whatever
I want. I guess we could bleep it and uh.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It hits Miranda in the face. And it was a
very kind of one of those very.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Low tech but also precise prop type situations.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah right, well yeah, what was that set up?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's Jurgen's low.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Show, okay, And there was someone there with like a
I don't know, more of like a nerve gun situation
or something.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It was anyway, okay flung and he was under the camera.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It was Travis or incredible prop guy who really just
kept our lives together at that point in time. And
he's like under the camera and he hasked to just
aim the spoon just right at Cynthia's head, God love him,
and it hit her hair and her nose and she
did not break.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Wow at all.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Wow that's a professional, right, I mean, you all are professionals,
but coming from someone who breaks, I don't know what
I would do in that. But but wow, honestly, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
What I would do in that either.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
And I remember the stress of it all right, like
the stress of having to theoretically watch this and this
man is laying there and just the obviously he wasn't
doing what he's pretending to do, but it was just
very stressful and I feel like we were there for
a while.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Doing oh wow, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
But the thing that I love, also, just to finish
this storyline, and I've fully forgotten this, is that then
when Miranda is back at home, she's bought these beautiful
sheets that were really expensive. Yeah, and she's sitting there
reading a book and there's all these tissues next to her,
and Carrie's voiceover just says something like back at Miranda's,
(34:02):
you know things were going going better because well whatever,
she says, think things were nice on her nice sheets, And.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
You're like, what are all those tissues doing? Is she crying?
I thought? Is she reading a sad book? Is she crying?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, she's dabbing her hair and her nose still.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Just in case, just in case, remind you.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, I'm sure she showered.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
She's still just like multiple dabbing, which is so adorable.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I'd forgotten all that.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I only really remember out of this whole episode us
with the with the couple at the Tantric sex, which
then also really reminds me. And I'm just going to
go out of order because it's fine. These two gay
men want to have sex with Samantha because they've never
done it, and they think she's the hottest, most youthful
straight woman they know, and they want to have sex
(34:50):
with her.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Which is adorable. So she's walking on the street, she's
talking to Carry about.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It, and Carrie's like, but they're gay, you know, very Carrie,
And basically Samantha says to her, you know, for a
sex columnist, you are not.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Very progressive, which is true.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Then she says something.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Like, you are not with the times.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You know, the future of sexuality is that everyone will
be pens sexual, right, isn't that amazing?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
In nineteen ninety nine, she says that, yeah, isn't that
kind of true?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, it seems to be, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Like we've come a long long way.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, Like the whole dichotomy gay straight, like that's pretty
much done right, Like there's many options right.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Right, you know, which I think there should be.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Even though in certain ways our culture is not moving
forward in that way, it seems to be potentially moving forward.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, do you think, Yes, I mean Samantha was on it. Yeah,
I was, you would hear now, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I mean I was very impressed. But it doesn't go
so great with the gay men, No.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It doesn't. They lose their will too with a lady
and the thing that really made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
So here we have this like tantric sex thing where
our heads are all very carefully blocking you know, the
private parts. But then in the scene where Samantha does
go to potentially have sex with the two gay men,
even though she's very on the fence about it, But
then they're so complimentary and like you're amazing, You're amazing,
(36:26):
You're amazing. She's like okay, and then they kiss her
on the neck and everything is going fine, and then
they very very.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Delicately go down her body.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But he's wearing this nightgown and it's extremely like almost conservative.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
The way they filmed.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It, that's true, right, because in reality they get to
the private parts and they're like no, like right, they're
like I can't do this. No, They're like no, that's
not for us. But they don't show, of course anything
like thing. You have to just fill it in.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
With your mind what's happening, you know, which I thought
thought was interesting, But I also feel like, if you
know it, it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I think the way they filmed it made it seem
it almost made it seem more like psychological than like physical,
even though the implication was it was like we were
backing out of this right general are.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
And I think it could also have been.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I mean, I don't know what the writers were thinking,
but like, you know, we don't want to offend our.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Viewers, yeah, you know what I mean, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Like we want to be tasteful, you know, in that
way at least right, and I mean I felt like
it was.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And that that was kind of comical too, Like the
way that those guys acted was I thought they were
pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
They were pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Their whole like I can't do this was pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It was pretty funny because they wanted them to get
on their clothes and go get food or whatever. It
was cute for those really cute. And they also kind
of look weirdly like twins.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
They did.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
They look so similar, right, yes, which I'm sure was
on purpose.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yes, it had to be.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, and I feel somehow.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
That we've run into one of them, like I think
one of them is a friend of somebody's or something,
because I feel like sometimes they talk about it either
either let's see Sean or Brad have so many men,
so many men are listed as guest stars, which is
pretty common. But I feel, yes, they look very familiar.
Though I didn't remember the storyline. I mean, this was
(38:37):
a fun episode because I was like, what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I don't know. I like it.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I like to have that, you know, it's funny to
think that my body and my spirit in my mind
or whatever was there. But I don't remember right, it's
kind of scary but interesting. You guys, this is so
much fun that we are going to have to have
a part two, so join us later in the week
on Are You a Charlotte?
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We are here at Are you a Charlotte? Thanks for
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
You guys, It's.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good to be here. Rachel is here.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
We have a couple things to talk about, but technically
we are here to rewatch an episode of Sex and
the City from season two, so kind of back in
the day. It is called was It Good for You?
It's a very interesting episode. But also those of you
who watch all the shows would know that Rachel joined
us on and just like that, which was really really fun.
(00:45):
She was in the episode bomb Cyclone, which was a
cool episode Cynthia directed.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yes, and let me just say it was like it
was one of those most like, I mean, I watched
Sex and the City back it was my Sunday night ritual,
so I mean, I love did and still do. But
so then when I got the call that I was
gonna be that was like a moment that was I
hate the term bucket list, but it was. It was
a bucket list moment until then when I walked in
(01:12):
to the read through. I mean you don't understand. Maybe
you do because maybe everyone that comes in is like this,
but I was just like I was having a ton
I was like, there's everybody, there's all the cast and
it was right, yeah, but I mean it was like
in the most fun way good. Everyone was really friendly.
But it was also just like anytime you're on something
that you used to watch before you ever like you know,
(01:34):
dreamed of making it. But anyways, so yes, that was
it's hard to it's hard for us.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I mean people do say this and it's super interesting.
I mean for me and you come from Saturday Night Live,
which to me, there's nothing more intimidating or frightening or
scary or like, I literally don't know how you guys
do it, Like I mean I technically know how you
do it, but the idea of that pressure, you know,
like like wow, wow wow, and the you know, every
(02:03):
week creating that show and not knowing like having to
prove yourself and you know, not get cut the skin
and the like.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Oh lord, lord lord.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But the read throughs are the closest that we come
because Michael Patrick is old school. You know, he came
from old school sitcoms. Right, so, especially back in the
day of for instance, this this particular episode we're going
to talk about was in.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Nineteen ninety nine, which is kind of funny to say, right,
like like a long time ago. He would We would
have our read.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Throughs back then, and they were have you shot at
Silver Cup? Yeah, it's so durable and like weirdly old fashioned.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
We would have them in a like a room probably
this size, like.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
A much smaller room back then, and if you didn't
land a joke, you know, in the read through, that
joke would get.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Cut right, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, and once we.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Then did it and just like that, we were often
just this huge room I mean so many people.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, and we would have the iPad so that everyone
back in La at HBO could be watching. Did you
notice that there were iPads set up like this, like
semi innocuously, you know what I mean, But they're filming
you for for everyone back.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
In La La Land to be watching, which was interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
And then there'd be like just like so so so
many people at those read throughs, And I would say
to my younger pretend children, you know on the show.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Like you guys like really like he your like maybe
like what do you mean, because.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You know it's a different world now, right.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Right right, and just be like so quiet over there
and the read through like yeah yeah yeah, don't get
cut yeah right right.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Yeah, but it's it's obviously you were fully on and wonderful,
but like they want to see it, yeah, you know,
they want to see it.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I didn't even realize that we were being watched from Afar,
but I know makes.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I know, right, the new the new technology is interesting,
but it's better than having like even more.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
People in the room, right, that's true.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, but if does have like almost like a live
theater element, yes, read throughs.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Yeah, it's so much fun.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yes, oh well that was my you know dream come true.
Then I was when I was in I was in
a scene with SJP. Can I call you that?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I was in a scene with Sarah Jessica Parker. I'm like,
I need to say this because it's kind of unprofessional,
but like while I was in the scene, like I
was in the scene, but then there was also like
the other Rachel, like I'm in the scene with Sara,
So I was like fangirling and trying to act a
but it was super fun though, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And then you went for a drink? Is this right?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
This is so funny. So we were shooting in the
hotel because this big like you know, conference was the scene.
And so then it was the end of the day
and Cynthia was directing and Sarah Jessica Parker was like, well,
I'm gonna go get go get a drink at the
bar like end of the day, and she's like, do
you want anything? And I was first of I was
like because I got very like shy around my idols,
(05:07):
like right now. But anyways, so she's like, do you
want to drink? And I was like, oh, sure, I'll
have a margarita because that's my usual go to. And
then she was like, well, I'm going to get a cosmo.
And then I was like, oh, I have to get
the cosmo. It was like make a wish like wow,
some auction item, like have a cosmo. So I was like,
(05:30):
I'll have a cosmo. Since she came up with these
styrofoam cups over the bar, I don't know why, but whatever,
it was like the take away something. But then the
funny thing is like Cynthia, who I also you know,
don't know well at all, like who is the director?
Like there I am on the set at the end
of the day, it was like boozing it up, and
I wanted to be like, I've never done this because
(05:51):
it seemed I still holding my object.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I know, we put that down, that's right now, But
Jessica gave you the go ahead, you're not.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But I was a little bit like I'm drinking on
the job kind of. But I did get to have
a cosmo with.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Love.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
It was a big moment, right And.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
What was it like having Cynthia direct? Was that bizarre?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I mean, like I don't know how the show usually works,
so it was just you know, she was a good
director and she was give me good notes and but
you know, nothing to like intrusive. So she did a
great job in my opinion. But you know, I didn't
know if she was directing there all the time, Like
I didn't know if that was her first time, because
you know, you're just like when you come into someone's set,
you're just sort of like, I'll go where they tell me.
Of course, of course, of course, was that your first
(06:34):
time director?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
No bomb cyclone was not her first time directing. She
directed the episode where she has a experience with Chay
in Carrie's apartment.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
In the kitchen.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yes, she directed herself can you Believe?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And then the next episode where I find out about
it in the park and I yell at her, she
also directed that can you believe that?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I mean directing your own sex scene. I know that's
a whole it's situation, situation, right, Wow, I know she's
so brave. It would be difficult.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I know she did so great though, so great.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Now Michael Patrick was also around because when we went
to the scene.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
First of all, this is something that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
That happens frequently to me, which is bizarre. I would
read a script and we would do the read through,
of course, and I would perceive it as happening one
certain way, like for me, And this is more to
do with me than to do with the script.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I thought that scene where she has an interview with Chay.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
And Carrie is in the bed because she's had her
hip replacement thing or whatever it was.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
It is a hip replace right, Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I thought it was going to be funny, but it
really really wasn't like, it really really was.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Very intense and scary. I mean, like scare a lot
of sounds from what I recall.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Sounds and then like Carrie is so stressed, right, and
then she has to pee in a Snapple bottle? Do
you remember, right? See, when I read that, that seemed
comic to me.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I could see that, yeah, you know, So.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Then when it came out, I was like, WHOA.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
That's interesting right now, that could have been a comic thing, right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
And then when the scene comes in the park where
I find out and I'm talking about ships sailing.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
For some reason, I don't know why, I can't remember
you remember weird things about your acting.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, it's true for you. I can remember things.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
That aren't necessarily the most important thing, right, Right. So
there's we're outside where Battery park and there are ships
out in the ocean, and I'm comparing something to ships sailing.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Maybe her and and Eigenberg slash Steve I don't know,
meaning Miranda and Steve, and it's Michael Patrick's there.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Cynthia is technically directing, so she.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Set up the shot, she's set up the blocking, We've
rehearsed all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
I think it's kind of a Charlotte scene where I'm like,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You know, you're attracted to a non binary person.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's a moment.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
It's not a big deal, like I thought it was
like that like Charlotte being like, oh.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know, it's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
No.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
He comes to me, Michael Patrick, and he's like yell
at her. Oh oh, and he goes, you are the
moral compass here. I was like, oh, I'm the moral compass.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Oh my gosh. Oh so you had to be all
stern or something. I had to really for this, like
in this much detail.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
But I know which is fine. I supposed to.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Have a card kettle.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
No, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
It came to me because I was thinking about her directing, right,
and then it's so interesting because she was in the scene.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Right, and I don't know in the scene.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
If she would have told me to shout at her
Sarah right. But Michael was like just kind of whispering
in my ear, like you have to carry the way
of the moral reality that she has now kind of
irrevocably broken her marriage to Steve.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I know, I was not looking at it with this
like people for me, Okay, So like it's just one.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Of those interesting things where like, yes, she was directing,
but she was also in that scene. So he was
kind of like the little birdy in my ear to
kind of in a way enlive in that scene for her,
you know what I'm saying, In a way where when
you're directing yourself, you can't necessarily do though she probably
would have done that because this is the thing that
(10:36):
I remember and bomb Cyclone definitely, So that was Bomb Cyclone.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
She directed the second season.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
She wasn't able to direct the third season because she
was doing Gilded Age and just like that at the
same time, which was insanity. But she's amazing obviously and
can handle all of it. She really wanted to direct,
and they were like, no, you're you know, there's not
enough of you bomb Cyclone. I remember, she really she was.
She didn't have a a huge storyline for herself in
(11:02):
that and so she directed us.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
A lot, like a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I was like, Cynthia, it's so many notes. I can't remember.
I can't remember. But you were perfect in the read through.
I remember that, so you didn't need any notes.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Well, I had kind of a goofy part, so that
was good for me. I didn't have to have an
interlude in the kitchen, so I mean, I few intimacy
coordinator needed, Noah, but I love the.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Whole, the whole, like you know, what is your take
on the character that you played, which is you know, this.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Is kind of funny, Like so I just saw her
as this. So I played this like event planner for
Carrie's book tour and I had set up. But then
I come in and we had worked together, like work
together long ago. We had tried to write a screenplay
together that never got off the ground. But anyway, I
come in like remember me, and like, so I just
saw myself as a pest. So that's why I just
(11:57):
saw myself as But then the funny and I kept
you that word in my mind and I'm a pest.
Then the cool thing is when I came in for
my costume fitting, they had earrings for me there were
house flies, because you know how they go, so I mean,
you know, yeah, they wacky. I guess what they take
the costumes, but they were they were house flies and
(12:18):
they also had a big insect necklace.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Wow, And I was like, this is so like I know, Moll,
Molly and Danny are like on another level of communication.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Who you knew there were house fly earrings? I mean
I feel that I can look very closely my ears
and that scene and I will say.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
It so much.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And so you your character is named Carrie.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
But I used to be named Karen. But I said,
not a good time for white women named Karen. So
I go by I go by Carrie now like k
E R R. Wife. It was like carry cars to
really trying to like make the connection. Yeah, with Carrie.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
It was too funny. It was too funny. I'm so glad.
I think that they I.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Don't know the details because I'm not in the writer's room,
but I think they wrote that hoping that.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You would do Oh yeah, I'll just believe that to
be true. No, that was so fun I'm so there's
some things like that, you know, wish you could be
on a certain show. And I never even dreamed of it.
So that was a good call to get. Yeah, yeah,
you know how you.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Guys used to spoof used on Saturday Night're like, oh, yeah,
there was me.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
No, it was so I played Okay, I did a
horrible Christina Aguilera was the host, and I don't know
when she played Samanthamanda and I got sort of.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
A sis played me.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Who did Kristen Wig? No, she wasn't. She was on
yet she played me later, but I was not too
good impression. No, I mean, I'm just gonna be honest
my impressions. Like if I see someone like, oh I
could do that, that's one thing. But if you just
get told like you're doing Cynthenix, I just wasn't, you know,
I don't have that savant thing. So I just threw
(13:51):
on the red wig and crossed my fingers.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
But I forget who played I forget who played me too,
because I feel.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Like it happened more than once that they poof.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
They probably knew guys, and I mean it was like
such a kind of an honor really to get spoofed,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
And at one point someone spoofed me.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Wearing poke it out like a poke it up pussy bow,
and I was like, well, that's all you have to
do is just put on the blouse side, right, It's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I mean, I'm sure they've done many over the years. Yeah,
like maybe after I was there too, but that's the
one I remember that Christina, Oh, she was like she
just said, like I think she came in like well
I can do these people, and so like that. So
then they write the scene. Yeah, that's that's how that works.
I said it scooped.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
That's cool. I love it. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So this is my other thing I want to ask you.
So when you say that it was kind of amazing
and interesting to come on a show you'd already watched,
what was your experience of watching, Like when did you start?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Oh, oh, my gosh, well I remember I remember the
Fall of ninety nine. It was my first season on
sn olt. Oh, and so I just had this like
little apartment on the Upper West Side, and like there
was a while where I had no furniture because the
movers like lost my When I first got the job,
You're like so excited, and I remember like in this
little apartment with like just sitting on this little like you, Matt,
(15:15):
but I had the TV and that was my Sunday night, Rachel. Like,
I like, as soon as you hear that HB like ard, yeah,
that chord, it just gives me a good feeling. And
then like the opening music of it, like it just
I feel like it's just so encapsulated, you know, life
in your thirties, trying to make it in wherever New
(15:37):
York or wherever you know. Yeah, So it was definitely
my like appointment television, but I can't. I must have
watched when it first came out, too, but I mean I've.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Only been this is. I think we came out in
ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It's the second season, so I mean, and they were
only thirteen in the first season, and then we just
like started just bam bam bam, trying to get it,
get them made because people were watching, right, didn't really
at this point. People keep coming to my podcast and
telling me like.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
It was the biggest hit. I'm like, no, second season
was not the biggest yet.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I mean it was it was for us great, right
because we didn't really ever perceive what was coming, you
know who could, right? But then to me, third season
it was kind of like bumped up.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
It took time.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Because HBO was kind of new to original programming and whatnot, you.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Know what I mean. So I think like like.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Women were like quietly watching it, you know what I mean,
And then it just kind of building built the built,
the built, and we were just talking to any press
people who would ever talk to us, Like we were
just like begging people like will you please talk to us?
Which is I need to think about now wow, yeah,
in the olden day media.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Because I just I was telling you, I just watched
like eight of them in a row on a plane,
and some of them, like they're very poignant, like so
they really get you, but they're also funny. Like that's
what I love. I mean, I love anything that's like
both things.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
I agree because it's very hard to do ye, so
hard to do this, and I don't think people necessarily realize.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Not should they. I guess it's not their job, right,
but like to.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Be able, and I love that they allowed us to
try to do all the different things.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, you know, and when.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
You look back, especially in the beginning, well, in the
beginning beginning, there's just darkness, like the men are just
like Okay, I mean I felt when I watched it
at least, I mean, it really took me back in
a bad way.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
In the nineties.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Okay, Yeah, I'm talking about the very beginning. It was
really based on Candace's column, and as Candace told me
when she came on, that was really based on people
just telling her, like people would come up to parties
and be like I did, yeah, like kind of cool,
kind of scared.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, the specifics yes, you guys all hit on like
you know the guy who this and the guy that
you could tell that was someone's real story. Fun.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yes, yeah, yes, So once we veer off from Kansas's
own column, it's our writers' stories or people they know.
So there was a rule that had to be only
once removed. It couldn't be like someone heard something from someone.
That had to be like my friend and blah blah blah,
this happened to my friend.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah, which is everyone thought it was our stories. Thank god.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
No, it would very hard to act your own stories,
you know, that would.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Be very weird, thank god, But we did.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
There was a time where I remember we would you know,
you're just sitting there for so long on a set
like blah blah blah blah blah, and at a certain point
the writers would walk up.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
We just stopped talking. Scared.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Wait say that again.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
I didn't say what we stopped when the writers came. Oh,
we didn't want them to hear us saying anything.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
I thought you were being told to be quiet on
the set. I mean sometimes.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Probably we were.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Probably we weren't chattering, but you.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Know what I mean, we were chatting a lot. But
if the writers came.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
We would just be like, oh god, we don't want this.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
We don't want them to be hearing it. It's important,
stop stop talking. But it really was not us.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Okay, okay, let's talk about this episode because this episode
very interesting. As I was telling you when we walked in,
there's some episodes I watch and I remember so much.
There's some episodes I watch and I remember almost nothing.
This is close to almost nothing. And I think it's
because it's towards this end of the season and you're
so exhausted, and we would work all night long untill
(19:26):
the sun came up. So many days a week, yes,
like certainly Thursday, Friday, and yeah, Saturday morning, but then
we would start Monday at five am. So it was
you were just trying to turn your sleep around. That's
all you were trying to do, right, and like take
care of your feet, you know, oh.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
In those heels. Yeah, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So this episode is called was It Good for You?
And it's directed by Dan Allgrahant, which is also really interesting.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
He was a like a.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Indie filmmaker friend of Sara Jessica somehow, which I need
to ask her how I think this might be his
second episode, which is cool, or third, And Michael Patrick
King wrote this one, which is so nice. So he
had come on first season, and then he's like writing
more and directing more as time goes on, and at
some point he basically takes over and so many, so
(20:17):
many manner ins I'm not even gonna name them.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Well, name them when we get to them.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
So this whole episode is so sad and I didn't
remember the storyline at all. This is a very sad
storyline us Charlotte, because the whole episode starts with Charlotte
having sex with some guy we've never seen in her bed.
Turns out he's asleep. He falls asleep when they are
having sex.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
What on earth? I mean, I was shocked.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Do you remember this well? I don't remember seeing this
one back when, but I did my homework, thank you,
thank you ages, but I didn't remember.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't remember this either.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I mean, wow, sad, yeah, and and and sad for Charlotte.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
And then very soon we.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
See Charlotte just having like a whole little breakdown and
Carrie's apartment and Carrie trying to be so nice and
saying like.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Oh, you know, was he just you know, and also
the guy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So I'm i'm I'm like making little sexy noises whatever,
and then I'm like, uh, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Kevin Flynn? Is his real name?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Brahma Walker, doctor Brahma, the orthopedist, the orthopedic surgeon.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yes, yes, and that's his whole thing he's saying is
I was up at five in the morning, have a
very hard job. At some point, he says he had
three carpal tunnel syndrome, you.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Know, surgery, surgery, thank you, that's the word.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
And then someone else wrote in my notes that they
take like twenty minutes, which is kind of funny.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
But he anyway, he's falling asleep, which really I cannot
really actually imagine that this, that this could happen, but
I guess it must have happened somebody.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yes, And if that has happened to you out there,
I'm really sorry.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I feel like that really would be painful to one's ego.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Don't you think I would imagine?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
So, yes, right, it can't even it's weird.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It's interesting. I mean, it must have happened to someone
because it ended up in here.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's funny because when I was watching this, I wasn't
even thinking of it. It's so bad because in the
context of the like everything that happens on the show,
this seemed like, No, that's a little more tame.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
That's a good point. That's a good point. It is
a little bit innocent in a way.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, that's true. But Charlotte was upset.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Mean, it's just hard to like, if you really think
about it, it's hard to really imagine this happening.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Like it would be weird. I feel like you'd be like.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I mean, I guess it would depend if it was
like a one time thing or a constant thing, and
then you would be a little more concerned.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
That's for sure.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I also want to choose their dating, right, Like, it's
not even like when you've been in a relationship for
a lot of time.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Right, exciting? Yes, right, theoretic theoretically it should be exciting.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, But so what I this is one of the
things I love when I'm rewatching. I just like to
carry a storyline through, right, rather than switching back and
forth like how this show does so one of the things.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So we cut to Carrie what's my name?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Charlotte's telling Carrie about it, and crying like so upset,
you know, very Charlotte, and Carrie's being so sweet, like
her little sweet you know, when people talk about this
whole thing that happened really during COVID, I think about, like,
Carrie's not a good friend, Carrie's a narcissist.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I feel that. Yeah, And I was like, I never
bought into that.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Me neither me neither.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I'm team Carrie.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, I didn't even get that.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
I know, I.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Agree, it seemed really odd to me. I mean, do
you think too, like the Internet is its own animal
and for sure just does some weird stuff sometimes.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And then they all everyone jumps.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
In Yeah, I don't. I don't get how that came up.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Neither, because like in this particular scene, like there's so
many instances, especially way back where I mean, she's such
a sweet friend, like she's just trying to make me
feel better, trying to make me tea she didn't know
what else to do.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And then I say, did anyone ever fall asleep having
sex with you? And she's like, well, well no, it's
so sweet.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
And then the thing that I really love and I
do remember this part is that Charlotte's solution or you know,
plan for this is that she needs to take a
tantric sex classes, right, And I do remember in the
nineties there was a fair amount of conversation about tantric sex.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Do you remember this, I don't know, I mean not.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
What I mean is like not particular the nineties, like
I've heard this time contempt. Yes, yeah, got it.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I remember in the nineties, I think because also I
was in La right ww yoga okay, yeah, was booming,
and so the tantric sex kind of comes out of yoga.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Yeah. So I remember hearing sting practices this.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
One hundred That was a big no. But I think
that's how most people know. Yeah, very impressively. Dang man,
we're impressed.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Okay, no, not at all, interrupted anytime you want.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
I think that's how people know about tantric sex. Was stinky,
you know what I mean, which I feel like was later,
but who knows. I think it was all.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I mean, I knew people who I don't know if
I'm not going to say their name, but I knew.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I trained as a yoga teacher in the nineties.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Ok yeah, yoga works when there was only one yoga
works on Montana.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Did you ever go there, No, I went to one here.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah, because now they're everywhere. Okay, they're everywhere, which is amazing.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
But this is back in the nineties. It was before
I started working a lot. I was auditioning a lot,
which is really hard, obviously, and my solution to the
stress of that was to go to yoga every morning.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
That was like, my that's good, you know, like how
to get through it.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
And then I thought, well, gosh, you know, maybe I
should just do this because I loved it. But at
that point in time, this was early nineties, people thought
the yoga was a religion. Like they still didn't really
realize now it's something that you can just do for
your body and your mind and it's not a religion religion,
you know, there's still kind of woo to use your word.
(26:20):
I told Sarah Jessica that you're coming on and that
you had a podcast, and she said, what's it gold
And I said, I think it's called the Woo or
maybe it's woo woo woo.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Whether it was wooo, it's woo woo woo woo. Yeah,
I love it.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I love it because I am the Queen of the
Woo Woo ool.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I've done all this.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
By the way, I noticed it on your Wikipedia the
your pie season. Your birthday's a day after mind, but
we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Yeah, I'm really taking you off topic in many ways, Rachel,
I look it go off okay, and Drew Barrymore cho Yes,
she and I have the same bird.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Oh my god, amazing, yeah, amazing. I love it.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Pisces queens.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
We all need to do woo woo things. That's why
we're very wo right. We just got it.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Is the most sign without a doubt, without a doubt,
and you know what, I'm proud of it.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I don't must be right.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yeah, yay, Okay, I'm so glad.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I'm so glad. Okay, we got that done. Okay. Back
to the so I always wondered.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
I remember when this was happening, and I wondered because
also we would all sometimes do yoga in scenes.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Do you remember those episodes? Yeah, there's one where all
four of us are doing yoga. There's one where Kerrie
and I are doing yoga. And I don't know if
that was me related.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Because I think I did talk about it kind of incessantly,
but also It was very much like the new thing
at the time, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
The tantric sex thing. I remember this part.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Because it was one of those scenes where we're just like,
oh my god, how are we ever going to get
through this? Charlotte signs all the girls up to go.
It's not their idea, it's her idea, and I have
to beg them at the coffee shop, like please come,
and even Samantha agrees to come, and they come and
there's this lovely yes.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
The casting on the People was so perfect.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
It was so good right.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It was like chef's kiss, perfect and not easy to do, though.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I remember the stress of like who is going to
be teaching and who's going to be receiving or whatever
you want to call it, demonstrating to oh my god,
that guy was like the perfectly cast I know.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
And I remember New York.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
At the time. I am like, we are all so mortified.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
They're just so mortified that these people, these older actors,
have come onto our show to do.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
This insane thing.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
When I watch it now, I really enjoyed watching it,
partly because I know I remember that we could barely
get through it, like it's one of those things you
can barely get through.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Like Sir Jessica is laughing her real self.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Oh I love that, Yes.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Me too, And I am trying to be my best
Charlotte self.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
I'm taking those notes. Man, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
In it to win it, you know what I'm saying,
which I love. Like to me, that's very kind of
quintessential Charlotte. I'm also telling them to be quiet, which
I love so much.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I'm like, yeah, which is really enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And they're all over there like cooking up, and you know,
the lady has to tell them to stop laughing. And
Samantha is also so sweetly because of her own storyline,
which we'll get to in a second, She's so sweetly
kind of engaged in like rooting for them in a way.
And then Sir Jesics like Harry is just laughing her head.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
And then Cynthia you know this, My producers reminded me
that we did.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
You ever know that Michael Patrick did it Writers Podcast,
And just like that, Well.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I heard. I haven't listened to it, but I've heard that
it does.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, it's really good, and it's very in depth in
terms of the writer's room and what they were thinking
more for and just like that, it didn't do one
for Sex and the City.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Though I wish they would.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Exac'd be super interesting, and we went on when it
was the twenty fifth anniversary, I think of the show, Sarah,
Cynthia and I went on his podcast and we relived
the scene.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I don't know why it came.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Up random, really random, but one of the reasons that
came up, I think was like, there haven't been that
many times where different people have consistently broken, right, Like
for Sarah Jessica to break, it's very rare, very very rare, right,
and this was one of those times, like she could.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Not stop, Oh my god. And then Cynthia has to
have the yes.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
The substance, well maybe not the substance.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Substance, so what should we say, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We go to the tentric sect class, which we think,
I believe, is just going to be this lady describing
things to us, and she does do that, but then
at a certain point she brings out her husband, who
is this ponytailed, you know, lovely older man, and he
lays on a pillow in front of us and she
does the Lingham massage. I believe she calls it, and
(31:33):
which is like whoo, and our heads very carefully. At
one point my booklet that I'm taking my notes in
blocks there's a very creative blocking of any kind of
private parts, which I remember was a lot of the
stress of filming that, you know, separate from the fact
that we couldn't stop laughing. But then so it's the
(31:56):
massage goes on for quite some time, I mean quite
some time, right, and we're all doing our different you know.
Charlotte's taking notes and trying to figure out what the
lady's doing, and Samantha's like, oh girl, you know, and
Carrie's laughing, and Miranda's leaning forward like well, this is
very interesting. And then all of a sudden the man comes.
(32:17):
I guess I can say that, I can say whatever
I want. I guess we could bleep it and uh.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It hits Miranda in the face. And it was a
very kind of one of those very.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Low tech but also precise prop type situations.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah right, well yeah, what was that set up?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's Jurgen's low.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Show, okay, And there was someone there with like a
I don't know, more of like a nerve gun situation
or something.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It was anyway, okay flung and he was under the camera.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
It was Travis or incredible prop guy who really just
kept our lives together at that point in time. And
he's like under the camera and he hasked to just
aim the spoon just right at Cynthia's head, God love him,
and it hit her hair and her nose and she
did not break.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Wow at all.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Wow that's a professional, right, I mean, you all are professionals,
but coming from someone who breaks, I don't know what
I would do in that. But but wow, honestly, I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
What I would do in that either.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
And I remember the stress of it all right, like
the stress of having to theoretically watch this and this
man is laying there and just the obviously he wasn't
doing what he's pretending to do, but it was just
very stressful and I feel like we were there for
a while.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Doing oh wow, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
But the thing that I love, also, just to finish
this storyline, and I've fully forgotten this, is that then
when Miranda is back at home, she's bought these beautiful
sheets that were really expensive. Yeah, and she's sitting there
reading a book and there's all these tissues next to her,
and Carrie's voiceover just says something like back at Miranda's,
(34:02):
you know things were going going better because well whatever,
she says, think things were nice on her nice sheets, And.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
You're like, what are all those tissues doing? Is she crying?
I thought? Is she reading a sad book? Is she crying?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
No, she's dabbing her hair and her nose still.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Just in case, just in case, remind you.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Yeah, I'm sure she showered.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
She's still just like multiple dabbing, which is so adorable.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
I'd forgotten all that.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I only really remember out of this whole episode us
with the with the couple at the Tantric sex, which
then also really reminds me. And I'm just going to
go out of order because it's fine. These two gay
men want to have sex with Samantha because they've never
done it, and they think she's the hottest, most youthful
straight woman they know, and they want to have sex
(34:50):
with her.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Which is adorable. So she's walking on the street, she's
talking to Carry about.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It, and Carrie's like, but they're gay, you know, very Carrie,
And basically Samantha says to her, you know, for a
sex columnist, you are not.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Very progressive, which is true.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Then she says something.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Like, you are not with the times.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
You know, the future of sexuality is that everyone will
be pens sexual, right, isn't that amazing?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
In nineteen ninety nine, she says that, yeah, isn't that
kind of true?
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, it seems to be, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Like we've come a long long way.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, Like the whole dichotomy gay straight, like that's pretty
much done right, Like there's many options right.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
Right, you know, which I think there should be.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Even though in certain ways our culture is not moving
forward in that way, it seems to be potentially moving forward.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, do you think, Yes, I mean Samantha was on it. Yeah,
I was, you would hear now, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I mean I was very impressed. But it doesn't go
so great with the gay men, No.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
It doesn't. They lose their will too with a lady
and the thing that really made me laugh.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
So here we have this like tantric sex thing where
our heads are all very carefully blocking you know, the
private parts. But then in the scene where Samantha does
go to potentially have sex with the two gay men,
even though she's very on the fence about it, But
then they're so complimentary and like you're amazing, You're amazing,
(36:26):
You're amazing. She's like okay, and then they kiss her
on the neck and everything is going fine, and then
they very very.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Delicately go down her body.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
But he's wearing this nightgown and it's extremely like almost conservative.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
The way they filmed.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
It, that's true, right, because in reality they get to
the private parts and they're like no, like right, they're
like I can't do this. No, They're like no, that's
not for us. But they don't show, of course anything
like thing. You have to just fill it in.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
With your mind what's happening, you know, which I thought
thought was interesting, But I also feel like, if you
know it, it was a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I think the way they filmed it made it seem
it almost made it seem more like psychological than like physical,
even though the implication was it was like we were
backing out of this right general are.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
And I think it could also have been.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I mean, I don't know what the writers were thinking,
but like, you know, we don't want to offend our.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Viewers, yeah, you know what I mean, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Like we want to be tasteful, you know, in that
way at least right, and I mean I felt like
it was.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
And that that was kind of comical too, Like the
way that those guys acted was I thought they were
pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
They were pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Their whole like I can't do this was pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
It was pretty funny because they wanted them to get
on their clothes and go get food or whatever. It
was cute for those really cute. And they also kind
of look weirdly like twins.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
They did.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
They look so similar, right, yes, which I'm sure was
on purpose.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yes, it had to be.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, and I feel somehow.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
That we've run into one of them, like I think
one of them is a friend of somebody's or something,
because I feel like sometimes they talk about it either
either let's see Sean or Brad have so many men,
so many men are listed as guest stars, which is
pretty common. But I feel, yes, they look very familiar.
Though I didn't remember the storyline. I mean, this was
(38:37):
a fun episode because I was like, what's going to happen?
Speaker 3 (38:40):
I don't know. I like it.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I like to have that, you know, it's funny to
think that my body and my spirit in my mind
or whatever was there. But I don't remember right, it's
kind of scary but interesting. You guys, this is so
much fun that we are going to have to have
a part two, so join us later in the week
on Are You a Charlotte?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
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