March 15, 2024 • 10 mins
Bernie Sanders is floating around the idea of a four day work week. Seems like people are into it because it was talked about on the late night shows and the crowd went wild.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Working hard or hardly working. The left says the forty
hour work week is antiquated. Senator Bernie Sanders introducing a
bill pushing for thirty two hours a week.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is not a rodical idea. Time is money and finite.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
When my members look back on their lives, they never
say I wish I would have worked more. What they
wished for is they wish they had more time.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What the hell's that got to do with anything?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Get to the point where the government's involved. Well, yeah
I was. I wasn't even thinking of that, which is
the ultimate trump point on this. But yeah, yeah, I
mean we'd all like to work less. But yeah, well,
so on my deathbed, I should wish I had won
the lottery at some point and I didn't have to
work so much. Had it been cool or Bernie Sanders
(00:46):
freed me from the the you know, the yoke of
having to work. How did we decide on the first
of all, I'd like to hear more of an exclamation explanation,
not an exclamation oh my god. Uh explanation is on
the way center, an explanation of why is the forty
hour work week antiquated?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
In what way? Please?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Let's all just helk them. Chad Pirgram rolls on with
eighty two Please Michael.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The terms which slash the work week claim and extended
weekend supercharges employees.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Workers are much more focused that they are better arrested.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You aren't churning through them.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Less work means more leisure time. Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy
questioned if more hours on the job explains why fewer
people attend church these days twenty percent fewer than a
quarter century ago.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You don't have time to go to Wednesday night Bible study.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You might not have the ability to even attend church
services on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So much to unpack. First of all, I like acting
like the forty hour work week is a new phenomenon
and we're just arguing about it now. People can't go
to church in the year twenty twenty four like they
could in the year nineteen eighties. Oh God, when we
also had the forty hour work week. But I can
write down that one part. If you work unless you
(02:08):
have more leisure time, you say I'm gonna have to
do something. Get a chalkboard, and some met'd be like,
I'll be like Oppenheimer up on the board working out
in ecuation to see if.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That is true or not? Right?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, how about Chris Coons, you don't have time to
go to a Bible study? I understay either, maybe.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Even suret on Sunday?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What are you talking about? That's what we're all going
to do?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
If if you that's what happened in church membership, if
we just worked a thirty hour work week, we'd all
be at Bible study.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You just know it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's hilarious. It is.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh and one of the voices you heard in the
clip was that that firebrand head of the a fl
CIO who was saying about nobody ever wished they'd work
more on their death true. Okay, Yeah, So Hillary Vaughan,
who's also with Fox News, confronted old socialist Bernie Sanders
outside of his office and try to get the bottom
of what's going on here eighty three and we'll go
(03:02):
from there.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Can I talk to you about the thirty two hour
work week? It seems like Fox Business, it seems like
democrats want businesses to be.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Taxed more pay their work. Is that what you do think?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I didn't get to.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Ask the question. Okay, thank you, senator, you want to
hold it, ok is there more so?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I wanted to pause on point out that, all right,
the combative old fart really wouldn't even let her ask
the question, Oh, that's what you believe, that's.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
What you believe. Yeah, I'm sorry, I just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
All she said was Democrats want to tax businesses more.
I don't think that's controversial. It was that what you
believe is not what you believe.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, bitter old fruitcake.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Next clip, we held a hearing on a thirty two
hour work week, because what we have seen is that
over the last fifty years, despite a huge increase in
work of product, almost all of the new wealth has
gone to the top one percent, while sixty percent of
the people living paycheck to paycheck. Many of our people
are exhausted. We work the longest hours of any people
(04:11):
in the industrialized world. I think it's time for a
shortened work week.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I mean, a lot of what he said is just
not factual, right, And then a lot of the countries
you'd point to where they work less hours, it's because
they have such a giant social safety net that they
can afford, because we at least up until recently, have
paid for their military events. Yeah, and they're completely unproductive,
not innovating, not growing the rest of it. I also
want to make the point that oh, I would say
(04:37):
on Bernie's behalf almost that if AI goes in the direction,
virtually everybody thinks it is not the cataclysmic stuff we
were talking about earlier, but replacing so many white collar
jobs especially, and quite a few blue collar too. The
concept of universal basic income is going to move to
(04:57):
the forefront of our discussions, and work weeks will get
quite short where they exist at all for millions and
millions of people. And there is going to be a
serious restructuring of society because if you have those tools,
you will be able to accumulate all of the wealth
that would have been going to the lawyers and accountants
and tax people and administrative assistants and the rest of it.
(05:20):
They won't be getting their pay anymore. So, yeah, that
will be a change. But the our people are exhausted, Like,
go back to pick a decade when when the people
were well rested and didn't feel exhausted from their work week.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
People more exhausted.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now than they were in the thirties or forties or
fifties or six Come on, yeah, I'm a big believer
in work life balance. But I've been working since I
was eleven years old, and I like taking on challenges
and I like making money.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So how about I figure that out?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Bernie, Hey, when people say that, it hurts my heart
talk about that. I've been working. Somebody said to me
the other day, I've been working since I was thirteen.
You said, you've been working since you're eleven. I've been
working last twelve. My kids both want to work, they
asked me all the time. I wish I could get
a job, so I'd like to make money. But we've
crafted a society where you can't, and it really frustrates me.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, starter jobs, learning the skills, building those muscles, that's important. No,
it's child child labor exploitation. You want to take us
back to the coal mines or something. That's the argument
that it was great I worked and I got spending money.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It made me happy.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Both my kids wish they had jobs they could do
this weekend to make money.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Next clip, I.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Asked you a question about that. It seems like democrats
want businesses to be tax for pay their more lower prices,
pay people not to work.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You know what I would like to see how our.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Business is going to survive that that's the question. How
can businesses survive all of those proposals?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And the Bezos pays an effective tax rate lower than
the average work I think we have a real problem
in our taxesem I think that billionaires have got to
stop pay that fair share of taxes.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
You know, I could go ahead again with the I
don't have it in front of me, but if the
total wealth of every billionaire in the United States was
confiscated by the government, that would cover our bills for
what is it, a day and a half or something
like that, longer than that, but not very long. And
then you know that that doesn't make sense if because
(07:21):
the whole tax rate thing is such a shame, But
that doesn't make sense if you're the person who runs
your business as a billionaire, but not every business is
boss is a billionaire.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I was just gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Say every time the tax rates for the gal who
has been an account in her whole career and her
practice has grown, and now she has two accountants under her,
and she's got a nice house in the suburbs, and
you know what, she's always wanted that car she can
go ahead and buy it. And if she starts saying,
why is half of my income disappearing to the government,
(07:53):
Bernie Sanders comes back with Jeff.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Bezos sneazz to pay fast.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, you know, it's like, I'm not a freak billionaire
over here.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But he's a socialist. Socialists sly they lie routinely. But
I feel like that, man, I feel like I've read
about this before. But obviously the number forty is somewhat arbitrary,
not an exact science.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Could be less, could be more.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I don't know why it would be the same forever
as you get over time over forty, but not under
or whatever. I mean, a lot has changed since the
forty hour work week was the standard, and I just
wonder is there a reason it should be longer or
shorter or the same.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, I like a five day work week.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think we're all pretty happy with that idea, although
I certainly love to go Johnny Carson if you're old
enough to remember that and shorten it further.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But so let's agree that two days on the weekend
is cool.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
People like that, right, So you get breakfast and you
get the kids off the school. Then you get yourself
to work, and by the time the kids are home
and done with practice and it's time for dinner, you're
done with work.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Just that eight hours. It's pretty good. It works.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I worked at least one day on the weekend for
the first half.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Of my work life.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Third, certainly, you don't die. It's not pleasant. When I
was a kid, I always telling my kids this when
they're complaining about me being busy. My dad worked till
noon on Saturdays a lot when I was a kid.
Wait till he got home on Saturday after lunch was
when he was available for the weekend. It's not the
end of the world. It's not what you want, but.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Right you might not choose it. But again, it's not
like horror. It's okay, but you figure that out.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I got to read that book full time, I think,
is the main title of it, Like every book now,
it has a lengthy subtitle, but about the psychological, spiritual
value of work and how it's not a necessary evil
at all all. It's why we're here, to a large extent,
(10:03):
defining work however you want now. Maybe it's going to
work for a corporation, maybe it's raising your children, maybe
it's ministering to the poor, but doing something is not unevil. No,
And the idea that everybody will flourish in the arts
if they don't have something they are being productive at
(10:25):
is yeah. You hand me a paint brush in the canvas.
I'll disprove that notion in a hurry. All right, Well,
even more than how good your art would be. People
tend to go nutso or end up alcoholics or drug addicted,
or kill themselves or whatever. Right if they're free from
the horrifying shackles of having to do something productive.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Right,
Working hard or hardly working. The left says the forty
hour work week is antiquated. Senator Bernie Sanders introducing a
bill pushing for thirty two hours a week.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
This is not a rodical idea. Time is money and finite.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
When my members look back on their lives, they never
say I wish I would have worked more. What they
wished for is they wish they had more time.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What the hell's that got to do with anything?
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Get to the point where the government's involved. Well, yeah
I was. I wasn't even thinking of that, which is
the ultimate trump point on this. But yeah, yeah, I
mean we'd all like to work less. But yeah, well,
so on my deathbed, I should wish I had won
the lottery at some point and I didn't have to
work so much. Had it been cool or Bernie Sanders
(00:46):
freed me from the the you know, the yoke of
having to work. How did we decide on the first
of all, I'd like to hear more of an exclamation explanation,
not an exclamation oh my god. Uh explanation is on
the way center, an explanation of why is the forty
hour work week antiquated?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
In what way? Please?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Let's all just helk them. Chad Pirgram rolls on with
eighty two Please Michael.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
The terms which slash the work week claim and extended
weekend supercharges employees.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Workers are much more focused that they are better arrested.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You aren't churning through them.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Less work means more leisure time. Connecticut Democrat Chris Murphy
questioned if more hours on the job explains why fewer
people attend church these days twenty percent fewer than a
quarter century ago.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
You don't have time to go to Wednesday night Bible study.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You might not have the ability to even attend church
services on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
So much to unpack. First of all, I like acting
like the forty hour work week is a new phenomenon
and we're just arguing about it now. People can't go
to church in the year twenty twenty four like they
could in the year nineteen eighties. Oh God, when we
also had the forty hour work week. But I can
write down that one part. If you work unless you
(02:08):
have more leisure time, you say I'm gonna have to
do something. Get a chalkboard, and some met'd be like,
I'll be like Oppenheimer up on the board working out
in ecuation to see if.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That is true or not? Right?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Yeah, how about Chris Coons, you don't have time to
go to a Bible study? I understay either, maybe.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Even suret on Sunday?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
What are you?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
What are you talking about? That's what we're all going
to do?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
If if you that's what happened in church membership, if
we just worked a thirty hour work week, we'd all
be at Bible study.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
You just know it.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
That's hilarious. It is.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh and one of the voices you heard in the
clip was that that firebrand head of the a fl
CIO who was saying about nobody ever wished they'd work
more on their death true. Okay, Yeah, So Hillary Vaughan,
who's also with Fox News, confronted old socialist Bernie Sanders
outside of his office and try to get the bottom
of what's going on here eighty three and we'll go
(03:02):
from there.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Can I talk to you about the thirty two hour
work week? It seems like Fox Business, it seems like
democrats want businesses to be.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Taxed more pay their work. Is that what you do think?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I didn't get to.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Ask the question. Okay, thank you, senator, you want to
hold it, ok is there more so?
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I wanted to pause on point out that, all right,
the combative old fart really wouldn't even let her ask
the question, Oh, that's what you believe, that's.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
What you believe. Yeah, I'm sorry, I just didn't know.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
All she said was Democrats want to tax businesses more.
I don't think that's controversial. It was that what you
believe is not what you believe.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, bitter old fruitcake.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Next clip, we held a hearing on a thirty two
hour work week, because what we have seen is that
over the last fifty years, despite a huge increase in
work of product, almost all of the new wealth has
gone to the top one percent, while sixty percent of
the people living paycheck to paycheck. Many of our people
are exhausted. We work the longest hours of any people
(04:11):
in the industrialized world. I think it's time for a
shortened work week.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I mean, a lot of what he said is just
not factual, right, And then a lot of the countries
you'd point to where they work less hours, it's because
they have such a giant social safety net that they
can afford, because we at least up until recently, have
paid for their military events. Yeah, and they're completely unproductive,
not innovating, not growing the rest of it. I also
want to make the point that oh, I would say
(04:37):
on Bernie's behalf almost that if AI goes in the direction,
virtually everybody thinks it is not the cataclysmic stuff we
were talking about earlier, but replacing so many white collar
jobs especially, and quite a few blue collar too. The
concept of universal basic income is going to move to
(04:57):
the forefront of our discussions, and work weeks will get
quite short where they exist at all for millions and
millions of people. And there is going to be a
serious restructuring of society because if you have those tools,
you will be able to accumulate all of the wealth
that would have been going to the lawyers and accountants
and tax people and administrative assistants and the rest of it.
(05:20):
They won't be getting their pay anymore. So, yeah, that
will be a change. But the our people are exhausted, Like,
go back to pick a decade when when the people
were well rested and didn't feel exhausted from their work week.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
People more exhausted.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now than they were in the thirties or forties or
fifties or six Come on, yeah, I'm a big believer
in work life balance. But I've been working since I
was eleven years old, and I like taking on challenges
and I like making money.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So how about I figure that out?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Bernie, Hey, when people say that, it hurts my heart
talk about that. I've been working. Somebody said to me
the other day, I've been working since I was thirteen.
You said, you've been working since you're eleven. I've been
working last twelve. My kids both want to work, they
asked me all the time. I wish I could get
a job, so I'd like to make money. But we've
crafted a society where you can't, and it really frustrates me.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, starter jobs, learning the skills, building those muscles, that's important. No,
it's child child labor exploitation. You want to take us
back to the coal mines or something. That's the argument
that it was great I worked and I got spending money.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It made me happy.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Both my kids wish they had jobs they could do
this weekend to make money.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Next clip, I.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Asked you a question about that. It seems like democrats
want businesses to be tax for pay their more lower prices,
pay people not to work.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You know what I would like to see how our.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Business is going to survive that that's the question. How
can businesses survive all of those proposals?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And the Bezos pays an effective tax rate lower than
the average work I think we have a real problem
in our taxesem I think that billionaires have got to
stop pay that fair share of taxes.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
You know, I could go ahead again with the I
don't have it in front of me, but if the
total wealth of every billionaire in the United States was
confiscated by the government, that would cover our bills for
what is it, a day and a half or something
like that, longer than that, but not very long. And
then you know that that doesn't make sense if because
(07:21):
the whole tax rate thing is such a shame, But
that doesn't make sense if you're the person who runs
your business as a billionaire, but not every business is
boss is a billionaire.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I was just gonna.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Say every time the tax rates for the gal who
has been an account in her whole career and her
practice has grown, and now she has two accountants under her,
and she's got a nice house in the suburbs, and
you know what, she's always wanted that car she can
go ahead and buy it. And if she starts saying,
why is half of my income disappearing to the government,
(07:53):
Bernie Sanders comes back with Jeff.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Bezos sneazz to pay fast.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yeah, you know, it's like, I'm not a freak billionaire
over here.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But he's a socialist. Socialists sly they lie routinely. But
I feel like that, man, I feel like I've read
about this before. But obviously the number forty is somewhat arbitrary,
not an exact science.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Could be less, could be more.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I don't know why it would be the same forever
as you get over time over forty, but not under
or whatever. I mean, a lot has changed since the
forty hour work week was the standard, and I just
wonder is there a reason it should be longer or
shorter or the same.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, I like a five day work week.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think we're all pretty happy with that idea, although
I certainly love to go Johnny Carson if you're old
enough to remember that and shorten it further.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
But so let's agree that two days on the weekend
is cool.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
People like that, right, So you get breakfast and you
get the kids off the school. Then you get yourself
to work, and by the time the kids are home
and done with practice and it's time for dinner, you're
done with work.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Just that eight hours. It's pretty good. It works.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I worked at least one day on the weekend for
the first half.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Of my work life.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Third, certainly, you don't die. It's not pleasant. When I
was a kid, I always telling my kids this when
they're complaining about me being busy. My dad worked till
noon on Saturdays a lot when I was a kid.
Wait till he got home on Saturday after lunch was
when he was available for the weekend. It's not the
end of the world. It's not what you want, but.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Right you might not choose it. But again, it's not
like horror. It's okay, but you figure that out.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I got to read that book full time, I think,
is the main title of it, Like every book now,
it has a lengthy subtitle, but about the psychological, spiritual
value of work and how it's not a necessary evil
at all all. It's why we're here, to a large extent,
(10:03):
defining work however you want now. Maybe it's going to
work for a corporation, maybe it's raising your children, maybe
it's ministering to the poor, but doing something is not unevil. No,
And the idea that everybody will flourish in the arts
if they don't have something they are being productive at
(10:25):
is yeah. You hand me a paint brush in the canvas.
I'll disprove that notion in a hurry. All right, Well,
even more than how good your art would be. People
tend to go nutso or end up alcoholics or drug addicted,
or kill themselves or whatever. Right if they're free from
the horrifying shackles of having to do something productive.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Right,
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