July 16, 2020 • 12 mins
Armstrong & Getty explain their attitudes towards wearing a mask during the COVID 19 pandemic.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Deed, America. I've got something to say, And if you
don't want to hear it, then who want about your day?
To wear a mask so we can celebrate. Please wear
(00:22):
a mask so we can conquer. Just wear them that
nobody's trying to take your rights away. And if you're
gonna make that makes rather you're color it anyway. Wear
a mask so we can get world. Ain't spend it
wrong you. I know that's hard to hear, but wear
(00:44):
a mask. Who am not? How this message games through?
Everything is not about you. Just speak kind Listen, Johnny,
(01:16):
she did all the parts in that song. So who
put that out? Just somebody from Nashville wherever. Apparently there's
a lot of talented people. Oh geez, and uh yeah.
So I just thought that video was floating around the
internet yesterday. Um there are probably a thousand people in
Nashville that could do that before noon today. But um, uh,
that's interesting. So I think there's an angle of trying
(01:38):
to get us to a certain segment of society that
is anti mask. Clearly, I'm not sure she addressed the well,
she did address some of the arguments that the anti
mask crowd has. We're about to hear some of those, right,
R and D. This is the director of the c
D scene what he said about mask wearing the other day.
You know, I really do believe if the American public
all embraced masking now um and we really did it,
(02:02):
you know, rigorously, maybe more like uh like the German citizens.
And the Germans say everyone isolated. I think they got
a lot of cooperation. You know, when we probably isolated,
we probably had less than half the American public do it.
I think if we could get everybody to wear a
mask right now, I really do think of the next
(02:23):
four or six, eight weeks, we could bring this epidemic
under control. Okay, So the headline was the CDC director saying,
if we'd all wear masks, we could have this thing
under control the maybe four weeks. That was not a
good effort to get to people who say it's about
controlling us by saying the Germans did it. The chairman's
(02:43):
Germans are very effective. I'm not sure that helps your argument.
Can we look to the I don't know, the Spaniards,
the British, anybody was the Germans? And Walmart announced as
of this coming Monday, all across America, including a lot
of rollers and read states everybody got to wear a
mask for going on the Walmart, saying Kroger groceries. Look,
(03:06):
the Germans did it. The government told him what to do,
and they did it. The Germans, they gained control. We're
not trying to control you. We just want you to
be like good Germans. Unfortunate choice of words. So we've
received a number of notes from folks who are against
wearing masks for various reasons and um, and they were
(03:29):
written respectfully, and so we'll be responded to respectfully. Hapful
Jim with a very nice note. He travels around the
country a great deal listening to the show, and we
thank him for that. Um. You know, Jim talks about
places he's gone where the mask uses increasing, but they're
still having more and more cases. Number one, Jim, it's
just it's all anecdotal, which is not that helpful. And
number two, it ignores the fact that, especially in a
(03:51):
situation like this, you would take a measure because it
will be helpful, not because it will eliminate the problem,
And it could be the problem would have been much
much worse without the precaution. So it's just not compelling.
I hate compelling arguments. So I don't really know what
the reasons are for not wanting to wear a mask,
but some of it is you don't think it will work,
(04:12):
which is interesting because you know surgeons wear a mask.
Do you think that's pointless when they they're operating onion
so they don't breathe on you. Yeah. Yeah, And I
will get to some of my arguments in favor of it.
Here is a nice note from Joanne. Beautiful Colorado Springs, Colorado,
where my parents lived for quite a number of years,
and we spent many a delightful evening on their back
deck watching storms rolling over Pike's Peak. One of my
(04:36):
greatest memories just that, the grandeur and beauty of nature
just wonderful. Anyway, h Plus, you got the Air Force
Academy there, and you have people, uh, parachuting all the time.
You can just stop by the side of the highway
and watch people jumping out of plane. It's big fun. Anyway.
Blah blah blah suggests we talked to this doctor, some
alternate doctor, and I don't use that term dismissive Nick, No, no, no, everybody, no,
(05:03):
as as disrespectful there um who says, let's see the
way they're being used as pointless and possibly harmful. Uh
Cott homemade cotton masks are just Petrie dishes for bacteria
and do little, if nothing to protect yourselves or others
around you. Um uh do. I do find that somewhat
(05:24):
compelling and interesting as I remember thinking about that, reading
about that when I first started getting into masks. I
lived somewhere where masks have been mandatory to go inside
businesses for four months now. I mean we're way early. Um,
but the idea that you know, you're you're getting those
droplets on your mask and then you're handling your mask
and you might have been better off without it in
(05:44):
that case. But well, yeah, okay, so to the petrie
dish thing, you know, to take it off now and again,
throw it in the washing machine. Throw it in the
washing machine. You're supposed to do that anyway, So that
that's for stupid people, and I'd like to think I'm
not among them, Joe. But you know, cautioning the dim
witted is is the God's work, and I'm glad you
did it. On the other hand, I have had two
(06:07):
experiences lately that we're incredibly illuminating no pun intended, number one,
hanging out with some buds on a friend's back patio
as the sun went down, and we're laughing and joking
and the rest of it. And I've been a couple
of cottails. I don't recall, Um, but a buddy mine
(06:29):
was holding forth solving the problems of the world. Very
bright guy and uh. And he was back lit by
the sun perfectly to the point where I had sunglasses on,
but it was kind of hard to look at him.
I had to keep his head between me and the sun.
Every word he said, particularly when he got animated, was
(06:49):
accompanied by a an astounding amount number of saliva droplets.
I mean, more than you can believe. Also, Uh, during
the wintertime, I take Baxter out his final trip outside
to do his business around eight eight thirty at night
depending um. And I have a big flashlight, partly to
(07:10):
ward off beasts that might be in my backyard, and
I have I live at the edge of nature, skunks specifically,
but anyway, Um, at one point I'm shining in the
flashlight around. I got it kind of held up close
by my chest slash chin, and I coughed, and the spray,
the cloud of droplets that went through the shaft of
(07:32):
the light shock me. It is a little gross, but
it was really interesting too. Um. Also, the amount of
dust and crap you breathe in every it's astounding to
just the systems we have in our bodies to then
get rid of that. But if you cover that talking,
that coughing, that sneezing, that shouting whatever, with a mask,
(07:54):
that will cut down the spray, the cloud of droplets
you have no idea you you're putting out, it will
cut it by, which can make all the difference. That's undeniable.
That's the science of it, which I'm on board with.
So how about the um either the government controlling us
(08:15):
or you know, all that sort of stuff. I just
I UM because that's it's most so worried about our
real rights which are being trampled on my senses that
this My sense is that that's most of it. It's
the government telling you to wear a mask. I'm not
going to do what the government tells me to do,
which is an impulse I kind of appreciate. I do too.
I'm I'm That's what I'm saying yesterday. I'm way down
(08:37):
that road, like past the road of what what pass
the point of what most people think is normal on
that road. But I am wearing a mask. Great note
from Andy, longtime correspondent Andy, I'm a libertarian small ell
and I've checked out the science and I've been wearing
a mask since this thing started, despite early CDC claims
they wouldn't help. Imagine my shock when conservative friends starting
(08:59):
to insisting the masks or a communist control tactic and
there was no scientific evidence that they help. The Germans
didn't do it. Just like the Germans did it. There
is I claim that I showed them the studies, which
they then ignored. Now I don't like big government control,
and I think the closures are ridiculous, But masks and
hand washing are the primary tools to avoid needing business closures.
(09:20):
So he's with us. Take these precautions. We can open
everything and people can can make a living. I'm more
bothered by the government closing down private businesses and not
educating kids when I've already paid for it, and we
can do that if we wear a masks. There's the
part that I really like. Here's what really doesn't make sense.
Most at risk are elderly folks who are likely to
vote conservative. There's a chance that slaping a mask. I'll
(09:42):
save a few conservative voters for the fall. Why the
heck would any conservatives not put put on a mask?
On the other side, sidewire status so hell bent on
making everyone wear a mask when not wearing them would
kill off more of their opponents. Are they just upset
they don't get to do it themselves in re education
camps the way they're supposed to. That's for be funny beautiful. Yeah,
Andy's credentials as a libertarian slash conservative are unimpeachable. That's
(10:06):
pretty funny. Hey, this is worth mentioning. I didn't hear this.
Georgia's governor is banning Georgia's cities and counties from ordering
people to wear masks in public places. He avoided orders
on Wednesday that at least fifteen local governments across the
state had adopted. Ah, that's interesting. That is interesting that
(10:26):
the governor says you're not allowed to make people wear masks.
I hate central control um and and this appears to
be taking local governments rights to fashion solutions away. So
I don't I don't like it. I think it's a
bad one. Yeah, I somehow have convinced myself. I think
(10:49):
I did decide to wear a mask on my own.
I have a kid with an immune system problem anyway,
But yeah, I understand the impulse I get if there,
if there is a mayor in my face telling me
to wear a mask, I might take it off, even
if I've already got it on. That's the kind of
lunatic I am about the government telling me what to do, right,
But he is trust me. We have one more note
(11:10):
I want to get to at some point, um who says,
I don't get you guys, I'm confused by your messages
on the air. The pandemic. You say we're a mask,
but then you say the numbers are inflated and the
rest of it. We'll get to this. I want to
address it all right again. It's it's written respectfully, it
(11:31):
will be responded to respectfully. You just a decent person.
How's the weather on the high road. It's interesting up here.
I I don't spend a lot of time here, so
they plant flowers. Apparently it's beautiful. So nobody recognizes me.
I have to introduce myself to everyone. You know. We
(11:53):
we do have some listeners, a few who have that
that twittery that come on with belligerents and certainty and
that sort of thing when they're just dead wrong. I
walk the low road, and everybody's hey, Jack, what's up.
I'm up on the high road, and you are, Oh no.
There's there's a road below the low road, and that's
where I'll go to respond to them. Okay, kind of
(12:14):
the hockey fight road. Oh fantastic. I will summon the
I road that's on the way.
Deed, America. I've got something to say, And if you
don't want to hear it, then who want about your day?
To wear a mask so we can celebrate. Please wear
(00:22):
a mask so we can conquer. Just wear them that
nobody's trying to take your rights away. And if you're
gonna make that makes rather you're color it anyway. Wear
a mask so we can get world. Ain't spend it
wrong you. I know that's hard to hear, but wear
(00:44):
a mask. Who am not? How this message games through?
Everything is not about you. Just speak kind Listen, Johnny,
(01:16):
she did all the parts in that song. So who
put that out? Just somebody from Nashville wherever. Apparently there's
a lot of talented people. Oh geez, and uh yeah.
So I just thought that video was floating around the
internet yesterday. Um there are probably a thousand people in
Nashville that could do that before noon today. But um, uh,
that's interesting. So I think there's an angle of trying
(01:38):
to get us to a certain segment of society that
is anti mask. Clearly, I'm not sure she addressed the well,
she did address some of the arguments that the anti
mask crowd has. We're about to hear some of those, right,
R and D. This is the director of the c
D scene what he said about mask wearing the other day.
You know, I really do believe if the American public
all embraced masking now um and we really did it,
(02:02):
you know, rigorously, maybe more like uh like the German citizens.
And the Germans say everyone isolated. I think they got
a lot of cooperation. You know, when we probably isolated,
we probably had less than half the American public do it.
I think if we could get everybody to wear a
mask right now, I really do think of the next
(02:23):
four or six, eight weeks, we could bring this epidemic
under control. Okay, So the headline was the CDC director saying,
if we'd all wear masks, we could have this thing
under control the maybe four weeks. That was not a
good effort to get to people who say it's about
controlling us by saying the Germans did it. The chairman's
(02:43):
Germans are very effective. I'm not sure that helps your argument.
Can we look to the I don't know, the Spaniards,
the British, anybody was the Germans? And Walmart announced as
of this coming Monday, all across America, including a lot
of rollers and read states everybody got to wear a
mask for going on the Walmart, saying Kroger groceries. Look,
(03:06):
the Germans did it. The government told him what to do,
and they did it. The Germans, they gained control. We're
not trying to control you. We just want you to
be like good Germans. Unfortunate choice of words. So we've
received a number of notes from folks who are against
wearing masks for various reasons and um, and they were
(03:29):
written respectfully, and so we'll be responded to respectfully. Hapful
Jim with a very nice note. He travels around the
country a great deal listening to the show, and we
thank him for that. Um. You know, Jim talks about
places he's gone where the mask uses increasing, but they're
still having more and more cases. Number one, Jim, it's
just it's all anecdotal, which is not that helpful. And
number two, it ignores the fact that, especially in a
(03:51):
situation like this, you would take a measure because it
will be helpful, not because it will eliminate the problem,
And it could be the problem would have been much
much worse without the precaution. So it's just not compelling.
I hate compelling arguments. So I don't really know what
the reasons are for not wanting to wear a mask,
but some of it is you don't think it will work,
(04:12):
which is interesting because you know surgeons wear a mask.
Do you think that's pointless when they they're operating onion
so they don't breathe on you. Yeah. Yeah, And I
will get to some of my arguments in favor of it.
Here is a nice note from Joanne. Beautiful Colorado Springs, Colorado,
where my parents lived for quite a number of years,
and we spent many a delightful evening on their back
deck watching storms rolling over Pike's Peak. One of my
(04:36):
greatest memories just that, the grandeur and beauty of nature
just wonderful. Anyway, h Plus, you got the Air Force
Academy there, and you have people, uh, parachuting all the time.
You can just stop by the side of the highway
and watch people jumping out of plane. It's big fun. Anyway.
Blah blah blah suggests we talked to this doctor, some
alternate doctor, and I don't use that term dismissive Nick, No, no, no, everybody, no,
(05:03):
as as disrespectful there um who says, let's see the
way they're being used as pointless and possibly harmful. Uh
Cott homemade cotton masks are just Petrie dishes for bacteria
and do little, if nothing to protect yourselves or others
around you. Um uh do. I do find that somewhat
(05:24):
compelling and interesting as I remember thinking about that, reading
about that when I first started getting into masks. I
lived somewhere where masks have been mandatory to go inside
businesses for four months now. I mean we're way early. Um,
but the idea that you know, you're you're getting those
droplets on your mask and then you're handling your mask
and you might have been better off without it in
(05:44):
that case. But well, yeah, okay, so to the petrie
dish thing, you know, to take it off now and again,
throw it in the washing machine. Throw it in the
washing machine. You're supposed to do that anyway, So that
that's for stupid people, and I'd like to think I'm
not among them, Joe. But you know, cautioning the dim
witted is is the God's work, and I'm glad you
did it. On the other hand, I have had two
(06:07):
experiences lately that we're incredibly illuminating no pun intended, number one,
hanging out with some buds on a friend's back patio
as the sun went down, and we're laughing and joking
and the rest of it. And I've been a couple
of cottails. I don't recall, Um, but a buddy mine
(06:29):
was holding forth solving the problems of the world. Very
bright guy and uh. And he was back lit by
the sun perfectly to the point where I had sunglasses on,
but it was kind of hard to look at him.
I had to keep his head between me and the sun.
Every word he said, particularly when he got animated, was
(06:49):
accompanied by a an astounding amount number of saliva droplets.
I mean, more than you can believe. Also, Uh, during
the wintertime, I take Baxter out his final trip outside
to do his business around eight eight thirty at night
depending um. And I have a big flashlight, partly to
(07:10):
ward off beasts that might be in my backyard, and
I have I live at the edge of nature, skunks specifically,
but anyway, Um, at one point I'm shining in the
flashlight around. I got it kind of held up close
by my chest slash chin, and I coughed, and the spray,
the cloud of droplets that went through the shaft of
(07:32):
the light shock me. It is a little gross, but
it was really interesting too. Um. Also, the amount of
dust and crap you breathe in every it's astounding to
just the systems we have in our bodies to then
get rid of that. But if you cover that talking,
that coughing, that sneezing, that shouting whatever, with a mask,
(07:54):
that will cut down the spray, the cloud of droplets
you have no idea you you're putting out, it will
cut it by, which can make all the difference. That's undeniable.
That's the science of it, which I'm on board with.
So how about the um either the government controlling us
(08:15):
or you know, all that sort of stuff. I just
I UM because that's it's most so worried about our
real rights which are being trampled on my senses that
this My sense is that that's most of it. It's
the government telling you to wear a mask. I'm not
going to do what the government tells me to do,
which is an impulse I kind of appreciate. I do too.
I'm I'm That's what I'm saying yesterday. I'm way down
(08:37):
that road, like past the road of what what pass
the point of what most people think is normal on
that road. But I am wearing a mask. Great note
from Andy, longtime correspondent Andy, I'm a libertarian small ell
and I've checked out the science and I've been wearing
a mask since this thing started, despite early CDC claims
they wouldn't help. Imagine my shock when conservative friends starting
(08:59):
to insisting the masks or a communist control tactic and
there was no scientific evidence that they help. The Germans
didn't do it. Just like the Germans did it. There
is I claim that I showed them the studies, which
they then ignored. Now I don't like big government control,
and I think the closures are ridiculous, But masks and
hand washing are the primary tools to avoid needing business closures.
(09:20):
So he's with us. Take these precautions. We can open
everything and people can can make a living. I'm more
bothered by the government closing down private businesses and not
educating kids when I've already paid for it, and we
can do that if we wear a masks. There's the
part that I really like. Here's what really doesn't make sense.
Most at risk are elderly folks who are likely to
vote conservative. There's a chance that slaping a mask. I'll
(09:42):
save a few conservative voters for the fall. Why the
heck would any conservatives not put put on a mask?
On the other side, sidewire status so hell bent on
making everyone wear a mask when not wearing them would
kill off more of their opponents. Are they just upset
they don't get to do it themselves in re education
camps the way they're supposed to. That's for be funny beautiful. Yeah,
Andy's credentials as a libertarian slash conservative are unimpeachable. That's
(10:06):
pretty funny. Hey, this is worth mentioning. I didn't hear this.
Georgia's governor is banning Georgia's cities and counties from ordering
people to wear masks in public places. He avoided orders
on Wednesday that at least fifteen local governments across the
state had adopted. Ah, that's interesting. That is interesting that
(10:26):
the governor says you're not allowed to make people wear masks.
I hate central control um and and this appears to
be taking local governments rights to fashion solutions away. So
I don't I don't like it. I think it's a
bad one. Yeah, I somehow have convinced myself. I think
(10:49):
I did decide to wear a mask on my own.
I have a kid with an immune system problem anyway,
But yeah, I understand the impulse I get if there,
if there is a mayor in my face telling me
to wear a mask, I might take it off, even
if I've already got it on. That's the kind of
lunatic I am about the government telling me what to do, right,
But he is trust me. We have one more note
(11:10):
I want to get to at some point, um who says,
I don't get you guys, I'm confused by your messages
on the air. The pandemic. You say we're a mask,
but then you say the numbers are inflated and the
rest of it. We'll get to this. I want to
address it all right again. It's it's written respectfully, it
(11:31):
will be responded to respectfully. You just a decent person.
How's the weather on the high road. It's interesting up here.
I I don't spend a lot of time here, so
they plant flowers. Apparently it's beautiful. So nobody recognizes me.
I have to introduce myself to everyone. You know. We
(11:53):
we do have some listeners, a few who have that
that twittery that come on with belligerents and certainty and
that sort of thing when they're just dead wrong. I
walk the low road, and everybody's hey, Jack, what's up.
I'm up on the high road, and you are, Oh no.
There's there's a road below the low road, and that's
where I'll go to respond to them. Okay, kind of
(12:14):
the hockey fight road. Oh fantastic. I will summon the
I road that's on the way.
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