December 30, 2025 • 33 mins
Kathy and Susan are ringing in the new year with reflection and celebration. From past New Year’s Eve traditions to favorite memories with their kids, they share their word for the year, simple pleasures they’re rediscovering, and what they’re excited for next. Plus, we take a look back at the podcast this year; what were some of Kathy and Susan’s favorite interviews? What are they hoping will come for “Golden Hour” in the next year? We’re also getting into our 2026 predictions, resolutions, and more! Tune in now!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Kathy and
I are so excited to be back, and we want
to thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh boy today, Susan. First of all, happy almost end
of this year. Glad to see you go. But we're
going to be doing a little twenty twenty five reflection
as we here for New Year's and I don't know
what your plans are, but I'm about to ask you,
so if you don't have any, make them up real quick.
What doing for New Year?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm going to continue travel and that's for sure? Are
you couple for years?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Actually I will be in Saint Martin and then in
February I'm flying Saint Martin to California and then you
and I are going to join our friends, our Italian
friends in California in February.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So tomorrow we can round your euro out by lots
of travel and especially for New Year's even Saint Martin. Now,
don't you want to ask me?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Please? I think you're coming with some of mine.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, what am I doing for now?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
New Year's? What are you doing? Nothing? What I guessed, Chris?
It's quiet though.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I just have to tell you when my husband was alive.
I loved New Year's Eve because now so I can
get through without crying. He would open a really nice
bottle of champagne and we would grill steaks, and I
left it. It was quiet. It wasn't you know. We
didn't get out on the road. We're probably easy crazy
as were. So now I do similar. I sit home
(01:37):
and open a bottle of wine.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, do you watch it on TV? I love watching
the ball drop in New York.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Sometimes I watch Ryan. Sometimes I do watch I do
sometimes watch it, but I would be.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You and I might be hosting that one day, I
think big.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay, if you and I are hosting New Year's Eve
in Times Square, I will be there that. I'll guarantee you. Okay,
but I don't know. All right, so let's get started here.
We've got a few questions. We're going to talk about
sort of our twenty twenty five. We're going to reflect
back on the year, and let me start. I'll answer,
I'll ask the first question. We'll go from there. Okay, Yes,
(02:17):
let's do all right? What word best describes twenty twenty
five for you? And why the word is epic?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It was an amazing year. I met tons of new people.
I was awarded an award for being an Officiant of the.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Year from Yay Susan. Congrats, it's been all of you
who don't know Susan just recently, oh, just a week
or so ago, a couple of weeks now, won an
award for a wedding officient of the year. So where
all our hats are off to you. Congrats, it's really.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Thank you, thank you. How about you, kav.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
My word for the year is engaged. I thought I'd
get a rise out of you. Not as a ring
on my hand. Engaged, Oh I got it, but engaged,
you know, I said yes. Too many opportunities that came
my way. I think for me, honestly, the biggest thing
for me, and it's it's one of the other questions
(03:18):
we're going to talk about, but let's mix it up
and talk about it now. For me, one of the biggest,
probably the biggest time's, biggest point of reference for me
in twenty twenty five was being on paradise And you know,
and you probably can guess, why do you want to
hazard a guess or not go.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Ahead because another experience Well.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It was of course all that and of course working
to getting to work with all the wonderful people and
like you said, meeting so many fabulous people this year.
But for me being on paradise, I didn't realize it
untill I got away and have really had time to
reflect on it. It was a time where I could
really just be me. I'm a fixer. I love children,
I love young adults. I love being there for people.
(04:03):
And I had a month of it where young people
cared what I had to say and they liked spending
time with me. It was just to me was yes,
it was a month vacation, but it was just a
month to really be myself. I loved it. What about you,
what's the best thing for you in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I just said it. That was one of the major
highlights getting the war, accepting that award in Las Vegas
at the Belagia, and you know, I love playing dress
up and all the people's opinions about my dresses I love.
I want to thank everybody for doing that. And then
the last minute, a designer sent me to dresses I
never saw where.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
By the way, when you get back with her asking
her mind as I didn't get one.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
She'd be happy to take care of you, all right.
Another one says, Kathy, what's one moment from this year
you didn't realize would matter so much at the time.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, so you're going to give me your answer. What's
your answer.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I'm going to go with the same. I didn't think
it would matter so much when I was nominated earlier
this year, and it did really matter. It turned out
to be something spectacular.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I think that's the lesson. We
keep learning lessons, But I think for me, twenty twenty
five has shown me that we think we know what's
going to happen, We think we know we're going to
where we're going to be. It never seems to be
that way. It's either in my case. In my case,
(05:27):
lots of surprises and lots of things that were better,
you know, than I anticipated they would be better, meaning
more fun, meeting, lots of people having incredible opportunities. And
you know, another word I could use is grateful, because
I am so grateful. I'm not big on resolutions, like, yes,
you know, I try to be my best person every day. Okay,
(05:49):
who showed up for you in an unexpected way? I
want to know it better be me.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Who showed up. It's always you, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Kathy's always there for me. I have one that what
did twenty twenty five ask of you that you weren't expecting?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well enough?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
We did this together.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Oh, give me a hand, give me more.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
We were on ABC pajump up partying.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh oh, can you know that? Actually? Is I That
is actually a good answer because it was the unexpected,
unexpected and so much fun even be falling in the
bushes backwards with guys.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I wish that was on film. I wish it.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Was that was.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Being on mel season was a surprise and we weren't
expecting it. Is there something that you're proud of surviving
this year? Cuth?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You know I think like anyone you know you and
are human were I think Josh surviving, I survived. It's
a strong word.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I mean I know what mine is. That's the month
of December.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I gotta say I have not been home one I
don't think, maybe two nights this month, so I'm waiting
on It's this is Survival of the Fittest December.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Should be reviving d December.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It is funny, but I have to tell you. One
of the things I was going to ask you and
since you know, you seem to know all the answers,
I haven't answer to this one. What is a simple
pleasure that you'd be discovered in twenty twenty five? Can
I tell you what mine is? Because you're gonna laugh.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So, my son in law, Johnny, loves to play cards.
I love to play cards. My husband hated games, hated
to play cards. I love them. My poor seven year
old granddaughter, I'm teaching her to play. Every last night,
I taught her how to play checkers. I swear that
the child is one hundred and two fever and I'm saying, Okay, Linley,
we're gonna learn how to play checkers. She looked at me, like,
you know, and she learns. She's good. But I the
(07:57):
simple pleasures of spending family time. I know it sounds so,
you know, people say all the time spending. You know,
I'm so grateful for my family. But we went to
the beach, you remember, I took my kids down to
the beach and we played card games and board games
at night. And that is like a lost art. I
lost family time. And for me, that that playing cards,
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spending time with our kids around the table, you know,
cheating at cards and not getting caught. It was so
much fun. What about games I.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Do and the simple pleasure of playing golf that I
got to rediscover this year.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm sorry, simple, you said simple.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's a simple pleasure only because I'm out all day
and I don't receive phone calls because I turn it off.
That just concentrate on the game.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If you think golf is simple.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It's got to be. I suck at it, but who cares.
I enjoyed doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Last week I went to our like final golf. I
think I've played twice this year. But I went for
the Christmas party and they do this like round robin gifts,
and I always give a nice gift because I don't
want somebody's thrown away gift from last year, right, so
I like this year. I gave a lovely box of
scented soaps and a beautiful hand painted dish towel, like
things I wanted, so I bought it for somebody else.
(09:21):
This year, I lucked out. I got that wasn't a dozen,
but I got two sleeves of golf balls.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Oh nice new new not even you very nice.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I was good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I went out and got my gift last night and
I'm I got your peanuts and fifty dollars worth of
lottery tickets.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Wait, that's not a wide elephant.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Why it has to be for him or her?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
No? No, I'm stuck on the fifty dollars that was
our limit. Oh hell yeah, I want to call this
particular one. I'm involved in a few of them. Listen,
if you win, if the person wins, you got, I'm
gonna have to share, that's right. Disclaimer goes if you
win anything more than one thousand dollars, I get half. Okay,
(10:06):
what let me ask you? What did Because we talk
about communication so much and what it means to communicate effectively,
what did twenty twenty five teach you about communication? So?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
For me, I always know that how important communication, that's
what we stand for. But what it did teach me
the lack of communication could be detrimental.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Ooh, that sounds very heavy.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It is, okay, Well, I one says that they're communicators
and they're not, And how do you make them realize
that they're not? This is not communication? You need to talk,
you know. Well?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think I was just gonna say some people communicate differently,
and that's if twenty twenty five taught me anything. As
everyone knows or about to find out, I'm an I'm
an interrupter. It's one of my resolutions that I never
make that I'm making that I will interrupt less than
twenty twenty five, sorry, twenty twenty six, which means I've
(11:06):
got a few hours here to keep it drinking. But
I think that you know, for me, listening more is
is important a part of communication as speaking your mind.
But to your point, if you're listening more, the other
person has to be able to speak his or her
(11:27):
mind in a way that you under you know that
we understand. And I think that that is something that
I mean it. I just wish every year we got older,
communication got easier. But it doesn't seem to.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It doesn't, it doesn't. I don't know what's one way
you became a better partner or friend this year.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, you're going to take issue with this. I was
hoping you wouldn't ask me this question. Well, because you're
not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Because you're trying not to interrupt. You're trying not to
tell me how to run my life.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
That's what I wrote. That was exactly what I wrote
that I'm trying to listen more and give less advice
and less someone's paying me for it, which you're not.
But we could we could change that rule tuesdays. And
I am because I think sometimes, you know, I read
some really good stuff on the internet. You know, some
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some some of these people that have made careers out
of writing books and writing spiritual and you know, self
help stuff on the internet. Mel Robbins comes to mind.
I mean, she's amazing. But one of the things that
I am learning is that sometimes people just want you
to listen. They don't want your your advice, they don't
(12:43):
want your advice, they want nothing. They just want to say.
And I'm a fixer, as we all know. That's why
I left Paradise so much. You know, when when Bailey
came to me and said, you know, such and such happened,
I was like, sweetie, here this is you know, here's
thank you, Kathy. I mean it was so easy, she
asked me. I told him it was great. But a
lot of times, especially as people get older, they just
(13:05):
want to vent. So that how did you become?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
How's you the one that says when did you feel
most like yourself this year? I answer that every day,
every day every day I feel like myself.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, I'm pretty much. I mean, I wrote my answer
would be paradise because I just felt like that was
a month of Kathy being herself on steroids. But but
I do you and I are very similar that way.
We are pretty much ourselves. I think. Do you think
most people reflect on I mean, besides most people getting
hammered on yours, Eve, do you think people reflect a
(13:41):
lot on all year long?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
On a year now, like the Christmas season the last
two weeks, that's what.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
While you're baking, while you're eating up the rest of
your Christmas cookies.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, I got to start baking, God tomorrow, I'm late.
I was away a lot this month, so yeah, take
that back. Sorry, Yes, it's trying not to eat all
the cookies that I baked.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You know what, give them away, Susan. It's the end
of the year, given me.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I mean, it's the last day, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know what, I cannot believe it's twenty twenty six
about to be. That means, got to stop interrupting. So wait,
you're not making a resolution then, right.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well, I don't really make resolutions, but I have things
in my mind that I want to try to do better.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, if you will, we all do. That's good.
We're still trying to be better. All right. Well, let's
ask about our podcast, because you know we're coming up
on can you Believe? Two years in Holma? It's insane.
I love how I love it too. How would you
describe this podcast in one word?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Fulfilling? I have the same word as you.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I cannot. Okay, that's creepy. Uh, that's really I mean.
Now my hair's getting as dark as you're. Now. We're
thinking in the same I did because I love doing it.
We talked about this. We love it hearing the people's
our listeners questions are their advice? Do you have a
favorite episode?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You know what? I tried to think about that. There's
so many different ones, some that were so fun. But
the ones that really connect with me is when we
read those questions and I feel for these people making
their choices of whatever it was. It Some of them
are really emotional and it stays with me. You know,
(15:35):
I don't know that I actually have a favorite.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way we do
a lot of them. Yeah, I know. I love it
when you and I just jaw with each other. I
love it when we have guests because I love that
we get to know more about them, they get to
know more about us. But I think the most surprising
thing to me in general about this podcast because really,
this is just you and I. I mean, it feels
(16:00):
it's just you and I have any conversation, right. But
obviously the hope is millions of people are downloading and
listening to it. But what I've realized is it's another cliche.
Words matter, Our words matter. People are genuinely asking, and
that's that is shocking on the one hand, but also
(16:22):
there's a lot of responsibility that goes along with that,
to the extent that people are really asking our opinion.
Who are really hurting? You know, how can I make
my life better? You two seem to have such a
good friendship. I'm so lonely. How do There's a lot
of responsibility that goes in to trying to answer with
knowing that we're not therapists and we're not doctors, and
(16:42):
we you know, we're not like just anything, life experience,
life experience, and so I feel a responsibility to really
try to help people. And you and I have talked
about this when we're not together. How many especially. It
always happens in airports when we're together. People come up
and they say we've changed their lives, and that is
the most fulfilling. That's why I wrote fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Remember the one time cried? Yeah, shared about it.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I've been saying how their lives are better. They've gotten
up off the sofa, you know. I just I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So, Okay, what did you learn about yourself as a
host this year?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well? I think that's for me, is what I just answered,
that my words matter, that it's not just up here
John saying the first thing that comes to my mind,
but trying to be really thoughtful about how I answer
what about you?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
For me? I really do have patience. I didn't think
I had any.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think I have patience with with what people with
patients of it with our podcast. Oh interesting, Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So was there a conversation we had that's stuck with
you longer than you expect it? I think that one
goes back to yes, when we read things that are
sad or we feel the heartfelt, you.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Know, can I tell you the one? I'm throwing another
question here, What is the biggest what is the most
disappointing conversation or call in or letter we've had. I
got that answer the guy from wherever he was whatever
state who said he really wanted to meet me, and
I said, we never called and he never called. So
thanks a lot, But glad we're wriping that one out
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of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Something that our listeners might not realize that goes into
making this show. What do you think, I say, Hell,
it affects us for one, listening to people. How we
affect others giving our advice. Yeah, Well, our research and
(18:54):
what we would do to prepare for the show.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah. I think a lot of people think we just
show up and start talking, and that's the goal obviously,
to make it look like it's just an easy conversation.
But you know, we try to research and know what
we're talking about before we get on there.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And you know what else, Kathy, like we say all
the time, keep your questions coming. If there's something that
our listeners want to know about or want to hear
about it, let us know what that topic is and
we will be on it. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah. And one thing I want to say, which you
know this is, Uh, these are recorded, sometimes the record
of the day that you listen to them. Sometimes they're
recorded and we get it just depends on our schedule.
But we have producers, We have people who help make
us look good. They help us with topics and guests.
So you know, if you think this is the Kaptain Show,
(19:47):
yes it's not. We have a lot of people in
the background helping us. So always, you know, hats off
to them, all right, Susan, Yes, we have to addict
what's going to happen in twenty six I mean, I
(20:08):
want to talk about I don't know if we can
the cruise Bachelor Nation vacation. We're definitely doing that in November.
I can't believe, you know, I used to think that
was so far away. It's not really that far away.
But I wonder if we can talk because, uh, Taylor's
is the is the new Bachelorette and she so do
you predict she gets engaged?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I would think so.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I think she will. Yeah, I think so, I think
she will. And I'm so envious that she got to
do that. But I bet you know she's She's had
a colorful life.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I cannot wait to watch her show. I think it's
going to be one of the best Bachelor shows. But
all right, so, but we don't know that much about
you because it's not on yet. But here's some other
predictions I have. I think Kelsey, didn't they say they
were getting married in twenty twenty six, No, I think so. No,
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twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I remember them saying a date. I remember, not a.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Date I think they said. Anyway, I'm predicting Kelsey and
Joey will either get married in twenty twenty six or
they will announce a date. I think Charity and Dowton
same thing. They're either gonna.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Get they get married in twenty six. I don't know
the ones that shared I believe.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm just saying. I think we're gonna have some great
Bachelor weddings. I think we're gonna have some Bachelor babies
being born, not by you and me, but I think
some of those are coming. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think, uh, and some couples getting together from Bachelor
that weren't the lead or the chosen one, you know, others.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, we got a few of those coming to I think, yeah,
we're better have to get some of those on our show,
all right, what do you what do you want to
bring more of into this show next year? Our show.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
More of more of exciting things, something Jesus.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
And we're not talking about sex toys.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
We're not, oh God, sex toys.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
No fashion.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I don't know for anything. Yeah, I don't know what
our fans want, and if they give me a thing,
we're going to run with it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah. I would like to know. Again, I think people
who are golden there's only so many topics in the world.
But I think I would like to have as many
guests as we've had. I'd like to I would like
to know how they're doing. I would like to know
how some of the people from Bachelor Nation that have
(22:50):
sort of disappeared, they've gone on with their lives. I
want to know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
What they're doing now.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I mean sometimes people that have been on the shows,
as you know, Kat, that's what they did. They were
on the show and that was it. Other people have
gone on many and like us, we're still in their face.
People complain about it sometimes, like why are you back?
Because people enjoy this smile Okay, they enjoy our banter,
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they enjoy hearing what we have to say.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
But I agree, but I also think I think some
people would be really interested. And I'm struggling to come
up with names right now because I didn't plan for that.
But like some of the people that were on the show,
most people, let me back up, most people who come
on The Bachelor or the Bachelorette, they're on TV. They
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do this dating thing, they put their lives out there,
and then most everybody goes back to their life. They
might change the career. I think more and more you're
seeing a lot more influencers coming out of this, because
that's the way of the world, that's what's happening with
social media, et cetera. But I gotta be honest, I
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can't even give a name. Really, I'm interested in any
Bachelor Nation person who I spent the time watching their seasons.
I was, you know, I wanted to know what they
were doing. I was so wrapped up in their life
on the show, and now where are they what are
they doing? Did they get married, did they have kids?
(24:23):
What job did they do? It's like I'm a lawyer.
I just want to know what goes on in these
people's lives.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Kathy, aren't we excited and we're hopeful that maybe they
come up with a new series with you and I's fans.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Relentless. Okay, so we got We've got about two minutes here, Susan,
give me your pilot. What's the pilot look like for
this show? Tell me you're.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Golden Girls out and wild, no, just living life like
what it's like. You remember the old show The Golden Girls.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I still watch it on reruns in the middle of right,
I can't slap.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Every I think we would be perfect for.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
That, you know, I think people would be one of
the things I think our audience would like to know.
When you and I are out together, people come up
and they're always so surprised that we're together, like, oh,
you two really are friends? I said, yeah, I hate
her sometimes I want to kill her worse like sisters.
But yes we are. And people are shocked that you
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and I travel, that we see each other, that we're
friends absolutely well. And then the other question I always
asked us is did you how many takes did you
you know, to do those videos like we do our
coffee talks and stuff. I love our coffee talks.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Go please it's us rolls.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think we should do coffee talks here. Could be
in twenty twenty six and just see what I mean,
just see.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It in my room, and we really will have coffee
some of our coffee talks, as they noticed there was
no coffee.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Wait a minute, if we do coffee talks in the afternoon,
can it be wine talk? Kathy? W H Kathy w
H I n E? Drinking w I n E.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Can you recall a favorite episode that we recorded this year?
I have one, I have two. One of my favorites.
Who was it that came on Kathy and we did
nothing but laugh? Hakeem well always honkey. Yes, some were
(26:34):
too serious, some were fun. We had a couple on.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Oh see, you are better than I. Because in the moment,
I will tell you in the moment, that's why I
feel so fulfilled doing this. In the moment, I am loving.
It doesn't matter who I'm interviewing. I love interviewing that person.
To me, it's like a puzzle. I like seeing it's
not the air their dirty laundry. I just like, wait,
(27:02):
am I going to get a little tidbit here that
you know they haven't admitted up till now? Like I
like the I like the challenge of doing that. But
I don't know. I don't have a favorite. I had
gone way back, like when Jordan and Keith, remember we
did those Charles l Yeah, I mean it was fun
getting their takes on on Alie Joe. Oh, Alie Joe.
(27:27):
I love her too. I don't know, I don't have
a favorite. By the way, speaking of Ali Joe in predictions, Yeah,
Ali Joe is dating Sick. I don't know if you
know the story, but they were supposed to be on
Paradise together and they weren't. YadA. Yeah, they left within
twenty four hours of each other, but they were coming
to meet each other. Well, they're now dating, seriously dating,
and we talk, we text all the time. I believe
(27:49):
that someone's going to get a ring on her hand
this year.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Nice, I did. I think a lot that came out
from Paradise. A lot of relationships.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Rub it in, Susan put rub it in, Kathy.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It wasn't for Golden you know, you're just mommy there.
It was good you were there.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I was a good mommy. Yeah, but no, there were
a lot of relationships. And I just I mean, and
you and I've talked about this. Batchelor is a great story.
It's a great. It is the structure, but it does work.
I mean, I so my I hope for twenty twenty six,
starting with Frankie Taylor, Frankie Paul, she's starting with artists.
I hope that she finds the love of her life.
(28:27):
I'm telling you, I sit there so envious. I so
wish it were me. I so wish that that we
were forty years younger and just no, no, no, no,
I don't want to be I love the age. I
just wish that I had a guy that loved me
and was going to put a ring on my end.
In twenty twenty six, yeah, right, do you have?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
How do you hope listeners feel when they tune in
next year? What do you think? How would you get them?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That's so easy for me.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I come to my laugh.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I wanted to laugh. I want them to feel like
it was time well spent, whether they're driving in the car,
out walking or sitting knitting or baking cakes, you know,
whatever this week that week bring. Because you know, there's
a lot of sadness in the world, there's a lot
of troubles in the world. If we could just make
someone laugh and enjoy the day a little bit. Wait,
I have to say one other guy, one other episode.
(29:23):
I loved it just came to me. Jared Freed now
speaking about I would be a cougar for him. I
think you guys would be great together to bend God.
I love him. I don't think he's ever going to
settle down, he says he is. I said when when
you're in a wheelchair.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I know he keeps saying the once. How about remember
Mark Anderson?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
We thought he was going to be the next that's
another prediction. You think. I bet he gets engaged yes year.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, yeah, I totally think that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Oh, now that would be interesting if he gets engaged
to Barbara. What about Joey and Kelty they have a
double wedding. Oh that we've had Leslie or Little Leslie,
little sweet Lesson, Yes, who I adore? I don't know,
I just all of them. I liked it when we
(30:09):
had Jill on because you know she's from Jill is funny.
I had fun with her. Yeah, she's cool, but she's
she's one of these people you don't know what box
you're gonna get when you open it up with Jill,
like she'll never know. Yeah, she can be very funny.
She can be she's an interesting person.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And I know and Sam I had such a crush.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
No, no, I just told you that's going to be
a ring. That's you can't have a crush on somebo
whose drinking games.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Susan, she's so cute. They're both so cute in my
Hakeem always.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
You know what, can I tell you the worst podcast
we had in twenty twenty five? I think it was
Hakeem for me. I could have been I could have
been out picking daisies on the side of the highway.
I mean, you two were carrying on like there was
no tomorrow. I was like, seriously, do I even need
to be here?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It happens with us. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's just she is fun, fun, and we did Gary
and his new significant other. Can you say her name?
Can you say her name?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Say your way? I say it? Mind Lana?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, I'm gonna start calling you then Lana. It's Landa,
It's land land Pana.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
She's adorable, though, I can't wait to see what happens.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
She's too young though she's not. Yeah, she's not.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Age is the number all my listeners is age? Just
the number?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Or we're going to do a podcast? On that because
I've given that a lot of thoughts. Is in twenty
twenty six, speaking of it just being a number, we
are going to do Thomas.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Sixty nine in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, I guess what's after sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Then you're gonna be the same, you know what. I
gotta be honest with you, just like I have to
before we wrap up here, just like twenty you know,
the change of the year to never matters like it's
another year. Time is just and time is a number,
age is a number, all those things. That's why I
never make resolutions, because you know, it's like working out.
(32:12):
How many people say I'm going to wait, I'm gonna
start exercising, I'm going to get to gym in January.
And you know what, speaking of I go to the gym,
as you know, two or three times a week. I
hate the gym in January because all these people in
comes and they all fall off by February places back
to normal again. Thank God. Anyway, that's my PSA. Get
to the gym now, don't wait till January.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
To the gym. I'm always the girl that give something
up for not new Year's resolution.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Well, listen, it is New Year's it is we're about
to be there. I want to wish everyone happy new
To you, Susan, I wish you a year of happiness, love,
prosperity and good health, and the same to all of
our listeners, every.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
One of you. Happy New Year, healthy new year, and.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
We're going to be here for you and we will
see you. See as I love to say to people
on the last day of twenty twenty five, see you next.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Year, next year.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
All right, well, thanks so much for listening today. Be
sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour because we have new
episodes coming out every week and you don't want to
miss one. That should be your New Year's resolution. In
twenty twenty six, listeners, do not miss one of Kathy
and Susan's pod.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Thanks, and give us your thoughts on what you want
to talk about, because we're here for it. Listen to
Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app or
where ever you listen to your podcast. We'll see you
next year.
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Kathy and
I are so excited to be back, and we want
to thank you for joining us.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh boy today, Susan. First of all, happy almost end
of this year. Glad to see you go. But we're
going to be doing a little twenty twenty five reflection
as we here for New Year's and I don't know
what your plans are, but I'm about to ask you,
so if you don't have any, make them up real quick.
What doing for New Year?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I'm going to continue travel and that's for sure? Are
you couple for years?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Actually I will be in Saint Martin and then in
February I'm flying Saint Martin to California and then you
and I are going to join our friends, our Italian
friends in California in February.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
So tomorrow we can round your euro out by lots
of travel and especially for New Year's even Saint Martin. Now,
don't you want to ask me?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Please? I think you're coming with some of mine.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, what am I doing for now?
Speaker 1 (01:03):
New Year's? What are you doing? Nothing? What I guessed, Chris?
It's quiet though.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I just have to tell you when my husband was alive.
I loved New Year's Eve because now so I can
get through without crying. He would open a really nice
bottle of champagne and we would grill steaks, and I
left it. It was quiet. It wasn't you know. We
didn't get out on the road. We're probably easy crazy
as were. So now I do similar. I sit home
(01:37):
and open a bottle of wine.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Okay, do you watch it on TV? I love watching
the ball drop in New York.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Sometimes I watch Ryan. Sometimes I do watch I do
sometimes watch it, but I would be.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You and I might be hosting that one day, I
think big.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay, if you and I are hosting New Year's Eve
in Times Square, I will be there that. I'll guarantee you. Okay,
but I don't know. All right, so let's get started here.
We've got a few questions. We're going to talk about
sort of our twenty twenty five. We're going to reflect
back on the year, and let me start. I'll answer,
I'll ask the first question. We'll go from there. Okay, Yes,
(02:17):
let's do all right? What word best describes twenty twenty
five for you? And why the word is epic?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It was an amazing year. I met tons of new people.
I was awarded an award for being an Officiant of the.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Year from Yay Susan. Congrats, it's been all of you
who don't know Susan just recently, oh, just a week
or so ago, a couple of weeks now, won an
award for a wedding officient of the year. So where
all our hats are off to you. Congrats, it's really.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Thank you, thank you. How about you, kav.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
My word for the year is engaged. I thought I'd
get a rise out of you. Not as a ring
on my hand. Engaged, Oh I got it, but engaged,
you know, I said yes. Too many opportunities that came
my way. I think for me, honestly, the biggest thing
for me, and it's it's one of the other questions
(03:18):
we're going to talk about, but let's mix it up
and talk about it now. For me, one of the biggest,
probably the biggest time's, biggest point of reference for me
in twenty twenty five was being on paradise And you know,
and you probably can guess, why do you want to
hazard a guess or not go.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Ahead because another experience Well.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
It was of course all that and of course working
to getting to work with all the wonderful people and
like you said, meeting so many fabulous people this year.
But for me being on paradise, I didn't realize it
untill I got away and have really had time to
reflect on it. It was a time where I could
really just be me. I'm a fixer. I love children,
I love young adults. I love being there for people.
(04:03):
And I had a month of it where young people
cared what I had to say and they liked spending
time with me. It was just to me was yes,
it was a month vacation, but it was just a
month to really be myself. I loved it. What about you,
what's the best thing for you in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I just said it. That was one of the major
highlights getting the war, accepting that award in Las Vegas
at the Belagia, and you know, I love playing dress
up and all the people's opinions about my dresses I love.
I want to thank everybody for doing that. And then
the last minute, a designer sent me to dresses I
never saw where.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
By the way, when you get back with her asking
her mind as I didn't get one.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
She'd be happy to take care of you, all right.
Another one says, Kathy, what's one moment from this year
you didn't realize would matter so much at the time.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Well, so you're going to give me your answer. What's
your answer.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I'm going to go with the same. I didn't think
it would matter so much when I was nominated earlier
this year, and it did really matter. It turned out
to be something spectacular.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, yeah, you know, I think that's the lesson. We
keep learning lessons, But I think for me, twenty twenty
five has shown me that we think we know what's
going to happen, We think we know we're going to
where we're going to be. It never seems to be
that way. It's either in my case. In my case,
(05:27):
lots of surprises and lots of things that were better,
you know, than I anticipated they would be better, meaning
more fun, meeting, lots of people having incredible opportunities. And
you know, another word I could use is grateful, because
I am so grateful. I'm not big on resolutions, like, yes,
you know, I try to be my best person every day. Okay,
(05:49):
who showed up for you in an unexpected way? I
want to know it better be me.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Who showed up. It's always you, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Kathy's always there for me. I have one that what
did twenty twenty five ask of you that you weren't expecting?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well enough?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
We did this together.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Oh, give me a hand, give me more.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
We were on ABC pajump up partying.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh oh, can you know that? Actually? Is I That
is actually a good answer because it was the unexpected,
unexpected and so much fun even be falling in the
bushes backwards with guys.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I wish that was on film. I wish it.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Was that was.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Being on mel season was a surprise and we weren't
expecting it. Is there something that you're proud of surviving
this year? Cuth?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
You know I think like anyone you know you and
are human were I think Josh surviving, I survived. It's
a strong word.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
I mean I know what mine is. That's the month
of December.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I gotta say I have not been home one I
don't think, maybe two nights this month, so I'm waiting
on It's this is Survival of the Fittest December.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Should be reviving d December.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
It is funny, but I have to tell you. One
of the things I was going to ask you and
since you know, you seem to know all the answers,
I haven't answer to this one. What is a simple
pleasure that you'd be discovered in twenty twenty five? Can
I tell you what mine is? Because you're gonna laugh.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
So, my son in law, Johnny, loves to play cards.
I love to play cards. My husband hated games, hated
to play cards. I love them. My poor seven year
old granddaughter, I'm teaching her to play. Every last night,
I taught her how to play checkers. I swear that
the child is one hundred and two fever and I'm saying, Okay, Linley,
we're gonna learn how to play checkers. She looked at me, like,
you know, and she learns. She's good. But I the
(07:57):
simple pleasures of spending family time. I know it sounds so,
you know, people say all the time spending. You know,
I'm so grateful for my family. But we went to
the beach, you remember, I took my kids down to
the beach and we played card games and board games
at night. And that is like a lost art. I
lost family time. And for me, that that playing cards,
(08:21):
spending time with our kids around the table, you know,
cheating at cards and not getting caught. It was so
much fun. What about games I.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Do and the simple pleasure of playing golf that I
got to rediscover this year.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm sorry, simple, you said simple.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
It's a simple pleasure only because I'm out all day
and I don't receive phone calls because I turn it off.
That just concentrate on the game.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
If you think golf is simple.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
It's got to be. I suck at it, but who cares.
I enjoyed doing it.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Last week I went to our like final golf. I
think I've played twice this year. But I went for
the Christmas party and they do this like round robin gifts,
and I always give a nice gift because I don't
want somebody's thrown away gift from last year, right, so
I like this year. I gave a lovely box of
scented soaps and a beautiful hand painted dish towel, like
things I wanted, so I bought it for somebody else.
(09:21):
This year, I lucked out. I got that wasn't a dozen,
but I got two sleeves of golf balls.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Oh nice new new not even you very nice.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
I was good.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I went out and got my gift last night and
I'm I got your peanuts and fifty dollars worth of
lottery tickets.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Wait, that's not a wide elephant.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Why it has to be for him or her?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
No? No, I'm stuck on the fifty dollars that was
our limit. Oh hell yeah, I want to call this
particular one. I'm involved in a few of them. Listen,
if you win, if the person wins, you got, I'm
gonna have to share, that's right. Disclaimer goes if you
win anything more than one thousand dollars, I get half. Okay,
(10:06):
what let me ask you? What did Because we talk
about communication so much and what it means to communicate effectively,
what did twenty twenty five teach you about communication? So?
Speaker 1 (10:20):
For me, I always know that how important communication, that's
what we stand for. But what it did teach me
the lack of communication could be detrimental.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Ooh, that sounds very heavy.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
It is, okay, Well, I one says that they're communicators
and they're not, And how do you make them realize
that they're not? This is not communication? You need to talk,
you know. Well?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think I was just gonna say some people communicate differently,
and that's if twenty twenty five taught me anything. As
everyone knows or about to find out, I'm an I'm
an interrupter. It's one of my resolutions that I never
make that I'm making that I will interrupt less than
twenty twenty five, sorry, twenty twenty six, which means I've
(11:06):
got a few hours here to keep it drinking. But
I think that you know, for me, listening more is
is important a part of communication as speaking your mind.
But to your point, if you're listening more, the other
person has to be able to speak his or her
(11:27):
mind in a way that you under you know that
we understand. And I think that that is something that
I mean it. I just wish every year we got older,
communication got easier. But it doesn't seem to.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
It doesn't, it doesn't. I don't know what's one way
you became a better partner or friend this year.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Well, you're going to take issue with this. I was
hoping you wouldn't ask me this question. Well, because you're
not gonna lie.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Because you're trying not to interrupt. You're trying not to
tell me how to run my life.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
That's what I wrote. That was exactly what I wrote
that I'm trying to listen more and give less advice
and less someone's paying me for it, which you're not.
But we could we could change that rule tuesdays. And
I am because I think sometimes, you know, I read
some really good stuff on the internet. You know, some
(12:21):
some some of these people that have made careers out
of writing books and writing spiritual and you know, self
help stuff on the internet. Mel Robbins comes to mind.
I mean, she's amazing. But one of the things that
I am learning is that sometimes people just want you
to listen. They don't want your your advice, they don't
(12:43):
want your advice, they want nothing. They just want to say.
And I'm a fixer, as we all know. That's why
I left Paradise so much. You know, when when Bailey
came to me and said, you know, such and such happened,
I was like, sweetie, here this is you know, here's
thank you, Kathy. I mean it was so easy, she
asked me. I told him it was great. But a
lot of times, especially as people get older, they just
(13:05):
want to vent. So that how did you become?
Speaker 1 (13:08):
How's you the one that says when did you feel
most like yourself this year? I answer that every day,
every day every day I feel like myself.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Well, I'm pretty much. I mean, I wrote my answer
would be paradise because I just felt like that was
a month of Kathy being herself on steroids. But but
I do you and I are very similar that way.
We are pretty much ourselves. I think. Do you think
most people reflect on I mean, besides most people getting
hammered on yours, Eve, do you think people reflect a
(13:41):
lot on all year long?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
On a year now, like the Christmas season the last
two weeks, that's what.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
While you're baking, while you're eating up the rest of
your Christmas cookies.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
No, I got to start baking, God tomorrow, I'm late.
I was away a lot this month, so yeah, take
that back. Sorry, Yes, it's trying not to eat all
the cookies that I baked.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
You know what, give them away, Susan. It's the end
of the year, given me.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I mean, it's the last day, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know what, I cannot believe it's twenty twenty six
about to be. That means, got to stop interrupting. So wait,
you're not making a resolution then, right.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Well, I don't really make resolutions, but I have things
in my mind that I want to try to do better.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, yeah, if you will, we all do. That's good.
We're still trying to be better. All right. Well, let's
ask about our podcast, because you know we're coming up
on can you Believe? Two years in Holma? It's insane.
I love how I love it too. How would you
describe this podcast in one word?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Fulfilling? I have the same word as you.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
I cannot. Okay, that's creepy. Uh, that's really I mean.
Now my hair's getting as dark as you're. Now. We're
thinking in the same I did because I love doing it.
We talked about this. We love it hearing the people's
our listeners questions are their advice? Do you have a
favorite episode?
Speaker 1 (15:12):
You know what? I tried to think about that. There's
so many different ones, some that were so fun. But
the ones that really connect with me is when we
read those questions and I feel for these people making
their choices of whatever it was. It Some of them
are really emotional and it stays with me. You know,
(15:35):
I don't know that I actually have a favorite.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way we do
a lot of them. Yeah, I know. I love it
when you and I just jaw with each other. I
love it when we have guests because I love that
we get to know more about them, they get to
know more about us. But I think the most surprising
thing to me in general about this podcast because really,
this is just you and I. I mean, it feels
(16:00):
it's just you and I have any conversation, right. But
obviously the hope is millions of people are downloading and
listening to it. But what I've realized is it's another cliche.
Words matter, Our words matter. People are genuinely asking, and
that's that is shocking on the one hand, but also
(16:22):
there's a lot of responsibility that goes along with that,
to the extent that people are really asking our opinion.
Who are really hurting? You know, how can I make
my life better? You two seem to have such a
good friendship. I'm so lonely. How do There's a lot
of responsibility that goes in to trying to answer with
knowing that we're not therapists and we're not doctors, and
(16:42):
we you know, we're not like just anything, life experience,
life experience, and so I feel a responsibility to really
try to help people. And you and I have talked
about this when we're not together. How many especially. It
always happens in airports when we're together. People come up
and they say we've changed their lives, and that is
the most fulfilling. That's why I wrote fulfilling.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Remember the one time cried? Yeah, shared about it.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I've been saying how their lives are better. They've gotten
up off the sofa, you know. I just I love that.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
So, Okay, what did you learn about yourself as a
host this year?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Well? I think that's for me, is what I just answered,
that my words matter, that it's not just up here
John saying the first thing that comes to my mind,
but trying to be really thoughtful about how I answer
what about you?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
For me? I really do have patience. I didn't think
I had any.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think I have patience with with what people with
patients of it with our podcast. Oh interesting, Okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
So was there a conversation we had that's stuck with
you longer than you expect it? I think that one
goes back to yes, when we read things that are
sad or we feel the heartfelt, you.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Know, can I tell you the one? I'm throwing another
question here, What is the biggest what is the most
disappointing conversation or call in or letter we've had. I
got that answer the guy from wherever he was whatever
state who said he really wanted to meet me, and
I said, we never called and he never called. So
thanks a lot, But glad we're wriping that one out
(18:31):
of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Something that our listeners might not realize that goes into
making this show. What do you think, I say, Hell,
it affects us for one, listening to people. How we
affect others giving our advice. Yeah, Well, our research and
(18:54):
what we would do to prepare for the show.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah. I think a lot of people think we just
show up and start talking, and that's the goal obviously,
to make it look like it's just an easy conversation.
But you know, we try to research and know what
we're talking about before we get on there.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
And you know what else, Kathy, like we say all
the time, keep your questions coming. If there's something that
our listeners want to know about or want to hear
about it, let us know what that topic is and
we will be on it. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yeah. And one thing I want to say, which you
know this is, Uh, these are recorded, sometimes the record
of the day that you listen to them. Sometimes they're
recorded and we get it just depends on our schedule.
But we have producers, We have people who help make
us look good. They help us with topics and guests.
So you know, if you think this is the Kaptain Show,
(19:47):
yes it's not. We have a lot of people in
the background helping us. So always, you know, hats off
to them, all right, Susan, Yes, we have to addict
what's going to happen in twenty six I mean, I
(20:08):
want to talk about I don't know if we can
the cruise Bachelor Nation vacation. We're definitely doing that in November.
I can't believe, you know, I used to think that
was so far away. It's not really that far away.
But I wonder if we can talk because, uh, Taylor's
is the is the new Bachelorette and she so do
you predict she gets engaged?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I would think so.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
I think she will. Yeah, I think so, I think
she will. And I'm so envious that she got to
do that. But I bet you know she's She's had
a colorful life.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I cannot wait to watch her show. I think it's
going to be one of the best Bachelor shows. But
all right, so, but we don't know that much about
you because it's not on yet. But here's some other
predictions I have. I think Kelsey, didn't they say they
were getting married in twenty twenty six, No, I think so. No,
(21:06):
twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I remember them saying a date. I remember, not a.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Date I think they said. Anyway, I'm predicting Kelsey and
Joey will either get married in twenty twenty six or
they will announce a date. I think Charity and Dowton
same thing. They're either gonna.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Get they get married in twenty six. I don't know
the ones that shared I believe.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I'm just saying. I think we're gonna have some great
Bachelor weddings. I think we're gonna have some Bachelor babies
being born, not by you and me, but I think
some of those are coming. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I think, uh, and some couples getting together from Bachelor
that weren't the lead or the chosen one, you know, others.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Yeah, we got a few of those coming to I think, yeah,
we're better have to get some of those on our show,
all right, what do you what do you want to
bring more of into this show next year? Our show.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
More of more of exciting things, something Jesus.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
And we're not talking about sex toys.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
We're not, oh God, sex toys.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
No fashion.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I don't know for anything. Yeah, I don't know what
our fans want, and if they give me a thing,
we're going to run with it.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah. I would like to know. Again, I think people
who are golden there's only so many topics in the world.
But I think I would like to have as many
guests as we've had. I'd like to I would like
to know how they're doing. I would like to know
how some of the people from Bachelor Nation that have
(22:50):
sort of disappeared, they've gone on with their lives. I
want to know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
What they're doing now.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
I mean sometimes people that have been on the shows,
as you know, Kat, that's what they did. They were
on the show and that was it. Other people have
gone on many and like us, we're still in their face.
People complain about it sometimes, like why are you back?
Because people enjoy this smile Okay, they enjoy our banter,
(23:17):
they enjoy hearing what we have to say.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
But I agree, but I also think I think some
people would be really interested. And I'm struggling to come
up with names right now because I didn't plan for that.
But like some of the people that were on the show,
most people, let me back up, most people who come
on The Bachelor or the Bachelorette, they're on TV. They
(23:43):
do this dating thing, they put their lives out there,
and then most everybody goes back to their life. They
might change the career. I think more and more you're
seeing a lot more influencers coming out of this, because
that's the way of the world, that's what's happening with
social media, et cetera. But I gotta be honest, I
(24:03):
can't even give a name. Really, I'm interested in any
Bachelor Nation person who I spent the time watching their seasons.
I was, you know, I wanted to know what they
were doing. I was so wrapped up in their life
on the show, and now where are they what are
they doing? Did they get married, did they have kids?
(24:23):
What job did they do? It's like I'm a lawyer.
I just want to know what goes on in these
people's lives.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Kathy, aren't we excited and we're hopeful that maybe they
come up with a new series with you and I's fans.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Relentless. Okay, so we got We've got about two minutes here, Susan,
give me your pilot. What's the pilot look like for
this show? Tell me you're.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Golden Girls out and wild, no, just living life like
what it's like. You remember the old show The Golden Girls.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I still watch it on reruns in the middle of right,
I can't slap.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Every I think we would be perfect for.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
That, you know, I think people would be one of
the things I think our audience would like to know.
When you and I are out together, people come up
and they're always so surprised that we're together, like, oh,
you two really are friends? I said, yeah, I hate
her sometimes I want to kill her worse like sisters.
But yes we are. And people are shocked that you
(25:23):
and I travel, that we see each other, that we're
friends absolutely well. And then the other question I always
asked us is did you how many takes did you
you know, to do those videos like we do our
coffee talks and stuff. I love our coffee talks.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Go please it's us rolls.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I think we should do coffee talks here. Could be
in twenty twenty six and just see what I mean,
just see.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
It in my room, and we really will have coffee
some of our coffee talks, as they noticed there was
no coffee.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Wait a minute, if we do coffee talks in the afternoon,
can it be wine talk? Kathy? W H Kathy w
H I n E? Drinking w I n E.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Can you recall a favorite episode that we recorded this year?
I have one, I have two. One of my favorites.
Who was it that came on Kathy and we did
nothing but laugh? Hakeem well always honkey. Yes, some were
(26:34):
too serious, some were fun. We had a couple on.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Oh see, you are better than I. Because in the moment,
I will tell you in the moment, that's why I
feel so fulfilled doing this. In the moment, I am loving.
It doesn't matter who I'm interviewing. I love interviewing that person.
To me, it's like a puzzle. I like seeing it's
not the air their dirty laundry. I just like, wait,
(27:02):
am I going to get a little tidbit here that
you know they haven't admitted up till now? Like I
like the I like the challenge of doing that. But
I don't know. I don't have a favorite. I had
gone way back, like when Jordan and Keith, remember we
did those Charles l Yeah, I mean it was fun
getting their takes on on Alie Joe. Oh, Alie Joe.
(27:27):
I love her too. I don't know, I don't have
a favorite. By the way, speaking of Ali Joe in predictions, Yeah,
Ali Joe is dating Sick. I don't know if you
know the story, but they were supposed to be on
Paradise together and they weren't. YadA. Yeah, they left within
twenty four hours of each other, but they were coming
to meet each other. Well, they're now dating, seriously dating,
and we talk, we text all the time. I believe
(27:49):
that someone's going to get a ring on her hand
this year.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Nice, I did. I think a lot that came out
from Paradise. A lot of relationships.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Rub it in, Susan put rub it in, Kathy.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It wasn't for Golden you know, you're just mommy there.
It was good you were there.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I was a good mommy. Yeah, but no, there were
a lot of relationships. And I just I mean, and
you and I've talked about this. Batchelor is a great story.
It's a great. It is the structure, but it does work.
I mean, I so my I hope for twenty twenty six,
starting with Frankie Taylor, Frankie Paul, she's starting with artists.
I hope that she finds the love of her life.
(28:27):
I'm telling you, I sit there so envious. I so
wish it were me. I so wish that that we
were forty years younger and just no, no, no, no,
I don't want to be I love the age. I
just wish that I had a guy that loved me
and was going to put a ring on my end.
In twenty twenty six, yeah, right, do you have?
Speaker 1 (28:49):
How do you hope listeners feel when they tune in
next year? What do you think? How would you get them?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That's so easy for me.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I come to my laugh.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I wanted to laugh. I want them to feel like
it was time well spent, whether they're driving in the car,
out walking or sitting knitting or baking cakes, you know,
whatever this week that week bring. Because you know, there's
a lot of sadness in the world, there's a lot
of troubles in the world. If we could just make
someone laugh and enjoy the day a little bit. Wait,
I have to say one other guy, one other episode.
(29:23):
I loved it just came to me. Jared Freed now
speaking about I would be a cougar for him. I
think you guys would be great together to bend God.
I love him. I don't think he's ever going to
settle down, he says he is. I said when when
you're in a wheelchair.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I know he keeps saying the once. How about remember
Mark Anderson?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
We thought he was going to be the next that's
another prediction. You think. I bet he gets engaged yes year.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, yeah, I totally think that.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Oh, now that would be interesting if he gets engaged
to Barbara. What about Joey and Kelty they have a
double wedding. Oh that we've had Leslie or Little Leslie,
little sweet Lesson, Yes, who I adore? I don't know,
I just all of them. I liked it when we
(30:09):
had Jill on because you know she's from Jill is funny.
I had fun with her. Yeah, she's cool, but she's
she's one of these people you don't know what box
you're gonna get when you open it up with Jill,
like she'll never know. Yeah, she can be very funny.
She can be she's an interesting person.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And I know and Sam I had such a crush.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
No, no, I just told you that's going to be
a ring. That's you can't have a crush on somebo
whose drinking games.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Susan, she's so cute. They're both so cute in my
Hakeem always.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
You know what, can I tell you the worst podcast
we had in twenty twenty five? I think it was
Hakeem for me. I could have been I could have
been out picking daisies on the side of the highway.
I mean, you two were carrying on like there was
no tomorrow. I was like, seriously, do I even need
to be here?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
It happens with us. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's just she is fun, fun, and we did Gary
and his new significant other. Can you say her name?
Can you say her name?
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Say your way? I say it? Mind Lana?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, I'm gonna start calling you then Lana. It's Landa,
It's land land Pana.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
She's adorable, though, I can't wait to see what happens.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
She's too young though she's not. Yeah, she's not.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Age is the number all my listeners is age? Just
the number?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Or we're going to do a podcast? On that because
I've given that a lot of thoughts. Is in twenty
twenty six, speaking of it just being a number, we
are going to do Thomas.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Sixty nine in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, I guess what's after sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
I don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Then you're gonna be the same, you know what. I
gotta be honest with you, just like I have to
before we wrap up here, just like twenty you know,
the change of the year to never matters like it's
another year. Time is just and time is a number,
age is a number, all those things. That's why I
never make resolutions, because you know, it's like working out.
(32:12):
How many people say I'm going to wait, I'm gonna
start exercising, I'm going to get to gym in January.
And you know what, speaking of I go to the gym,
as you know, two or three times a week. I
hate the gym in January because all these people in
comes and they all fall off by February places back
to normal again. Thank God. Anyway, that's my PSA. Get
to the gym now, don't wait till January.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
To the gym. I'm always the girl that give something
up for not new Year's resolution.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Well, listen, it is New Year's it is we're about
to be there. I want to wish everyone happy new
To you, Susan, I wish you a year of happiness, love,
prosperity and good health, and the same to all of
our listeners, every.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
One of you. Happy New Year, healthy new year, and.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
We're going to be here for you and we will
see you. See as I love to say to people
on the last day of twenty twenty five, see you next.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Year, next year.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
All right, well, thanks so much for listening today. Be
sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour because we have new
episodes coming out every week and you don't want to
miss one. That should be your New Year's resolution. In
twenty twenty six, listeners, do not miss one of Kathy
and Susan's pod.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Thanks, and give us your thoughts on what you want
to talk about, because we're here for it. Listen to
Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app or
where ever you listen to your podcast. We'll see you
next year.
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