October 16, 2023 • 42 mins
Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Aaron S. is opening up like never before. Before getting into this week’s episode of “Bachelor in Paradise,” the Oakland firefighter talks Joe through the terrifying boat accident he and Brayden were in, and how, after floating in the Pacific Ocean for more than three hours hoping to be rescued, their lives have been forever changed.
He also gets into everything we’ve seen go down in “Paradise” so far, and in true Aaron S. style, the man does not hold back. He reveals who he originally wanted to meet in “Paradise,” what qualities Sam has that make her an “incredible woman,” and where he and Peter stand after their confrontation on the beach.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Happy Hour. We have a
very special guest on, none other than the man himself
from Charity Season. Please welcome Aaron S to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Where's the confetti? Dude, no one really knows me. So
when you say Aaron S, Welcome Aaron S to the podcast,
I bet you half of Bachs nations like who that
we're gonna?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Well, well, yeah, I think I think after this episode
everyone knows who you are.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Maybe I would think.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
And you have a crazy story that we're gonna We're
gonna get into all that. But before we do, how'd
you get onto your fireman live? You live in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, live in San Diego, work in Oakland. I've been
getting Greek for that lately, Guys like, don't you're not
representing the city. I work in Oakland. I work for
the city of Oakland.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh oh wait, you're you're you're a firefighter in Oakland,
but you live in San Diego. Yeah, how do you
make that work?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's called the super commute, baby. Yeah. It's a way
for me to completely separate work from life, and in
my line of work and the mental capacity it takes
to do what we do. For me that complete separation
is exactly what I needed. So San Diego is my
safe place. And then when I go to work, I
do my work at Oakland.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Are you Are you like on one day off too?
Do you have the that schedule or is it different?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, so every department varies. My fire department is a
forty eight ninety six, so we're on for two straight days,
twenty four hour shifts back to back, and then we
get four days off. But supercommuters like myself, we'll stack
our shifts like we'll trade. So I'll work my regular
two days and then work someone else's two days, and
then I get eight days off consecutively.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Got it? That makes it make more sense. Where are
you from.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm from the Bay Area, born and rased Fremont, California.
Shout out to my Freemont friends out there.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Nice. Yeah, how'd you get on Charity Season?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
How the hell? You know what? This is a crazy story, Joe.
I'm so happy I'm sharing it with you, of all
people coaching star job, I mean, your first ballot, Bachelor
Hall of Famer dude. So before I got onto the
Bachelorette Man, I was casted for Joe Millionaire.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay, yeah they did. Yeah, I didn't watch it, but
I know they remade that chant.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It was a Fox revamp. They were trying to rival
the Bachelor and Bachelorette from ABC. And you already got
star studied cast like yourself and Serena. I hope she's
all right, man. I heard she's not doing well. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
talk about poop babies. But yeah, man, I was casted
for that show as the non millionaire boy, and girls
(02:37):
were going to fall in love with me for who
I was. And I was going through a pivotal time
in my fire career where I wanted more out of
my career. I thought I had the ability to reach
out and help out a larger community and Oakland was
number one on my list since I was twenty three
years old, and I'd interviewed for them and they gave
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me a job offer. The day a Fox called me
and said you got the spot as the non millionaire guy,
and so I turned it down, went to academy and
latter worled over to Oakland and I'm at the airport
one day and ABC calls me and they're like, hey,
are you interested in you know, maybe coming on the
Bachelorette and I'm like, wait, this is coming out of nowhere.
(03:23):
Get I hadn't watched this show in years. I may
have watched your season, and I'm just saying that because
you're right in front of me.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I probably don't I appreciate it. Yeah that's all you
had to say?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, yeah, that was a white life. I shouldn't even
have done that. Well, I watched tidbits right, Yeah, and
you know I didn't really have any interest. I'm thirty
four years old, and I do. I do want to
shout out to one of the Reddit people that said
that I look like I'm from the Nixon era. I'm
way too old for this shit. Okay, thirty four years old,
I get a call from AYBC. They say, hey, are
(03:55):
you interested? Of course I'm interested, But who the hell
nominated me or put my name in the man And
it was my sister and her husband who had sent
in all my information. And I'm one to create memories.
If there's an opportunity to possibly find love, possibly make
some lifelong friends, and possibly get to show you my personality,
(04:18):
I'm going to do that hands down every time. And
so I said yes, and you know, it was within
like three or four weeks, you're living this normal life
and then you're in the middle of thirty forty cameras and.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You were able to and there was no issues with
the Oakland Fire Department. You were able to stay on
and keep the job that you want and everything.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, that was a whole nother mix because you know,
being in the fire service, we have one of the
only careers that you don't need to know us, but
we've been respected for over one hundred years. We're probably
the only entity in the United States that could literally
walk into a stranger's home and instantly you're not judgmentally
know that we're there to do good. And so I
(04:59):
had I was I was stressed out about it. Man.
I actually talk to my captain about this because we
have an image to uphold and I don't know much
about reality TV. I don't know anything about it actually,
and so I didn't know, you know, what if they
edited me this way, what if they edit me that way?
And so it was a conversation I had with a
captain of mine, and then it went up the ranks
(05:21):
to our fire chief at the time, and then went
to our legal team, and you know, me going on
the Bachelorette was hinged on them saying yes or no,
and they say, as long as you act yourself, you know,
people are gonna hate you. There are people that hate me.
But yeah, I would say majority doesn't hate me.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Joe, No, I don't. I don't think you right now,
at least you are not a hated character on this show.
Well right now, I'm in a You're good, You're good?
What you're thirty?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Four? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Have you had any serious relationships before this show? What
was dating?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Why are you single?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah? You want the baby? Will give you the basic answers. Yeah, yeah.
I have worked my tail off from the time I
was thirteen years old up until now. What people don't
know about me was I was a ranch kid before
I became a firefighter. I had my own ranching business.
I managed cattle ranches, I had two horses of my own.
(06:19):
I taught little kids horseback riding lessons, I trained horses,
had a major barb wire fencing company, and all I
knew was blue collar work. You know, when my friends
were out partying and going to high school things, I
was working at the ranch till dark and get my
homework done on the weekdays to go straight to the
ranch and work till dark. And that upbringing, you know,
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brought me to the man I am today and taught
me some morals and values that are invaluable. And you know,
as I've become to be this like thirty four year
old man with this bushy beard, I've become picky because
I've worked really hard to get to where I am.
I feel like I'm financially stable. I've got a great career,
(07:04):
and I love my family. I'm super tight with them.
I've got a great friend group, and you know, the
last thing I want is to bring my partner into
something where they're not going to add to that. And
you know, that's become harder and harder as I get older,
is to find a partner that I that I truly
think adds to my family and adds to my friend
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group and adds to me as much as I add
to their family, their friend group and them. And so yeah,
that's why I'm single going into the bat That's why
I was single going into the Bachelorette, And that's why
I was single going into Bachelor in Paradise. Got it
because your boys a little picky.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Got it? Okay, that's no wrong with that. I in
those long hours. I used to I used to work
in the produce market, so I would start at I'd
wake up at like one point thirty two am and
work ten twelve hour days. So I do get that.
It's it's hard to have a social life when when
you have those crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh wow, hold on one second, Joe, hold on. Apparently
lights shut off in the bunker room. There we go. No, I,
I actually you're you're in my story are actually a
little oddly similar.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
My uh.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I worked for my grandfather for a while, you know,
a standard five and dime like a Ace hardware, and
so you know, at a young age, I would always
go there on the weekends and stock shelves. So all
those produce guys out there, kudos. Do you do the
Lord's work. You gotta the world's gotta eat.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Man, world's world needs produce. So okay, So I was
I was at it was Charities after after the Rowse show,
and I saw Braided in the hallway and he's like, hey, bro,
if you ever get down, if you get down to
San Diego, Aaron S and I are doing a fishing trip,
(08:51):
you should come and I'm like, well, I just that's
just not that's not gonna align with what I have
going on. But I appreciate. I appreciate the end.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And then I want to say, maybe, like a month
or two months ago, I see a clip of two
bachelor guys almost drown in a f fishing trip, and
it's Branden and Aaron s Yeah, what fuck happened? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
What the fuck happened? Is right? Man? And and would
you expect none other than Braiden and Aarones to sink
about together? The answer is no, you clearly don't know
Brandon and me. Well enough Braiden and I for those
vocabulary freaks out there, But yeah, I've owned boats my
whole life. I've been around ski boats. My family has
a ski boat, and my dream since I was a
(09:46):
kid was to own my own boat. My grandfather used
to take me fishing to Alaska every year. That was
the path to manhood in his eyes, in our family.
And you know, for ten straight years I'd go to
Alaska with him, Craig Alaska, to this lodge called King
Fisher Lodge, and we literally fish for a week off
the grid with a guy who built this lodge on
his property, and it was a dream of mine doing
(10:08):
a fishing boat. And I love the ocean. There's one
thing anyone needs to know about me. I love the ocean.
It's the most humbling thing nature can throw at you.
And there's nothing more than I want than to either
surf or be on top of the water. And so
after you know, thirty four years, finally I get the
money to buy this boat. I am stoked by the
(10:30):
way about buying this boat. Talking to this guy, Braiden
and I are going surfing in Orange County and I'm like,
you know what, Braiden, I've been texting this guy on
Craiglist about this boat. You want to go look at
it with me? It'sim Fullerton. He's like, oh man, yeah,
let's let's go look at it. Anytime you make a
stupid decision, ninety percent of the time that stupid decision
(10:52):
is pushed on you by a friend, right, Or you're
going to make that decision because a friend is with you. Yeah,
when you're by yourself, you're probably gonna walk away, just
like a car when you go buy a new car.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I think, do you think you would have walked away
if Braiden was like, nah, bro, I'm out, I can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Hell no, I'm not putting that on Braidon. Braid didn't
buy this boat. But he's like my hype man, so
of course it'll be like yeah, fuck yut, let's get
this boat. We see it. This thing is beautiful. Pay
for a whole inspection guy charges me five hundred bucks inspecs.
The boat sends me a ten page report. All systems, ago,
whole engine, bait tank, Everything on this boat is right perfect,
(11:26):
ready to go. I bring it home. I start noticing
little things on it that aren't working. The trailer's broken.
I fix the trailer. The stabilizer flaps break the first
time I take it out. I call a mechanic. I
get that fixed. And these are all little orange flags
right that start adding up. But in your stokedness, you
kind of overlook some of those orange flags and you go, well,
(11:48):
you know what, like I fix these things. You know
now that this is fixed, then nothing else is going
to break. Mind you, this boat is all It's from
the seventies, and the gentleman who I bought it from
it told me that he had redone it in his driveway.
Fiberglass gel coat and stringers. Stringers are the backbone of
a boat. Those are the ones that run down the spine.
There's usually two of them that run down the spine
of a boat, down the hole. And so, yeah, this
(12:14):
is the crazy. If I would have brought this is
the thing that kills me. If I would have brought
my dad on this boat, I would have killed him
that day. And so I joke around with these guys
and I say, like, this was bound to happen. This
boat was going to sink at some point, and I
am so thankful that I sunk it with Braiden, my
buddy Gavin, who's another firefighter, Braiden's dad, and Braiden's uncle.
(12:36):
If I would have sunk it with anyone else, anyone
else on this planet, one of us would not have
come home. Okay is that crazy? Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Okay, So how far out are you and how does
it sake?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, so this is crazy. We're seventeen miles off shore,
which you might as well take a spaceship to Pluto.
There's no one out there. It's just us and everything's
going fine. Man, we're having fun. We're being guys. We're
peeing off the boat, jumping off the swim deck for
(13:09):
people that fish or don't know how to fish. When
you're going for dorado or tuna, yellow tel tuna or
yellowfin tuna, you're looking for boilers in the water. So
we get to a certain GPS waypoint, which is seventeen
miles off shore. Everything's fine, and you're looking for kel
patties or a bunch of boils in the water, and
so we find Akelt Patty. We stop throwing throwing bait.
(13:31):
At this point, I realized no one on the boat
knows how to fish. So now I am a charter captain.
My name is Aarones. I'm the charter guy. I'm here
to make sure everyone's having a good time. So I'm
baiting everyone's lines for them. We're throwing them to the
kelt patties. First, kel Patty's empty. We're about three hours
into this journey. Three and a half hours go by.
We're at the second CLT Patty. Same thing, no fish bait,
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everyone's line for them. We reel up the lines. I
looked at the ocean report. It said the wind was
going to pick up at eleven. So I told the
guy's next kel patty or boiler spot that we find
like we're out of here. We're gonna fish it for
a little bit. We're gonna turn around and bounce. We
were lucky the sea was super calm that day. There
was a wind swell, but the ocean's gonna have swell
no matter what day you're there. And so the boats
(14:17):
off were drifting next to the third kelt. Patty and
my buddy hooks onto a dorado. Everyone goes to the
front of the boat. My buddy lets the line go
under the boat and then the fish runs around the prop.
The boat's off. It's not a big deal. Why you
have an outboard motor on a boat so you could
bring the prop up if you get stuck in kelp
or if a line gets crossed, you can lift the
(14:38):
prop up off the back of the boat on tangle line,
dropped the prop back down. You're good to go. Mind
you this. I'm going to tell you this. But before
I tell you this, three of the guys on that
boat had stepped on the back of the swim deck
while the boat was off. Prior to this event happening.
All the guys on the front of the boat, Gavin
(14:58):
has his line. I'd tell Gavin my buddy, Gavin, I said,
let your line out. Everything's fine. I'm gonna lift the
prop up, untangle your line. You're gonna real this fishion.
Then we're gonna head home. Prop comes up, Gavin lets
his line out. All systems a go until I step
on the swim deck. The moment I step on the
swim deck, the boat is completely underwater. In fifteen seconds gone.
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We don't have time to radio, we don't have time
to get our phones, we don't have time for anything.
And it is so unlike me to give a safety
briefing for any of the activities that I do. That's
just my nature. But I, for some weird reason, I
had given them a safety briefing before they got on
the boat. I showed them exactly where we were going,
(15:43):
so some of them had texted their wives or family, like, hey,
we're going out to this point. I showed them where
the life jackets were, every little safety piece of that boat,
where the radio was. It was on channel sixteen for
the Coastguard. And luckily, Branden's dad, who won MVP of
that entire experience, was listening to this absolutely abysmal safety
(16:06):
briefing that I'd given the guys and remembered where the
life jackets were, so he dove down and opened up
the hatch. And really, those life jackets are what saved us,
because all of a sudden you have, let me put
this into perspective, you are having the time of your
life with your closest friends, sharing an experience together that
none of us really get. One moment. You're having that experience.
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In the next moment, Dude, you're floating in the deep
blue three hundred feet I mean we're in.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The treading water, seventeen miles.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
From offshore, no land in sight, no boat in sight,
and it's three hundred feet deep and it was the
the ocean. I'll tell you this. I'm a water dog, right,
I was in some lessons as a kid, champion breaststroke artist.
Here surf all the time, but the deep, deep ocean
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wants you underneath, so it pulls you in a way
that I've never been pulled before. So just getting your
life jacket on with all your like, let's start this over.
Boat sinks, life jackets get thrown out the boat. Yeah,
Braiden's tangled in fishing line, the fishing lines pulling him
under with the boat his Dad runs, swims over to him,
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cuts the line off of Braiden. Braiden comes back up.
We all strip our clothes off to our chonies, except
for me. I kept my viory sweats on because they're
hell expensive, and we put our life jackets on. But
in that time, man, anytime that you weren't in a
life jacket, it just felt like the water was sucking
you underneath. Yeah, and what a help was feeling, right? Right?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So you guys have your life Let's get to the point.
You guys have your life jackets on. What's the conversation
like what? Because yeah, what's the conversation?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, I mean it's it's fight or flight. That the
boat had two firefighters on it. Brandon was military, Dad
was military. Uncle is a dispatcher for fire authority in
Orange County, Right, so all of us come from a
first responder background.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Is everybody in physical like physical shape.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I wouldn't say great physical shape, but you know, when
you when I say we were in the water for
three and a half hours, it becomes a mind game. Yeah,
and he who wins will last. And if there's anything
that you need to know about situations like that is
fear's cancer. And so the moment fears spread, you know,
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that's when bad decisions are made. So to be honest
with you, man, it was floating out there was scary,
but the moment we all accepted that it might be
the end for all of us, it was such a
light tone. There were jokes being said, there was some laughter.
We nicknamed the white cooler that we all held onto
Wilson from Castaway. And you know, why die scared when
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you could die with your closest friends happy and laughing,
you know. But I'll tell you one thing, man, I
have huge guilt from the experience, right because you invite
me to go do something that I'm not used to.
I'm going to put my life on the fact that
you know what you're doing and you're going to keep
me safe. Right where I brought four of my friends,
closest friends onto the boat with me, and it sinks
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and puts their lives in jeopardy. And so I got
a lot of guilt because of it. That will never leave.
That's something that always carry with me. But I still
got them. You know. That's that's good.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That that that that that's so scared. That's just a crazy, crazy,
scary story. How so, how did you get saved? You're
out there for how long? Three and a half hours
treading water?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Mm hmm. First hour and a half it was shock right. Yeah,
we always have these bad dreams. We wake up for them, right,
You're sleeping. All of a sudden, you feel his stud
in your chest, right, and you wake up before the
plane crafts or you fall off a building, before you
hit the ground. You always feel the stud in your
chest and you wake up. And so the whole top.
For an hour and a half, I am believing that
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this is a shit dream, like this has got to
be a bad, bad dream, and I'm just not waking
up for some reason. And then I started dealing with
some real ash shit, like I started shivering, bad, bad, bad,
and then I started cramping up because all I had
was coffee in the morning. And then I knew at
that point, hour and a half into it, my time
card got punched. And that's when that's when the realization
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of things being real really hit me. And you know,
we we were all really in a survival mode for
three and a half hours, and it was anything and
everything we could do to stay warm. We all linked arms.
The water was sixty eight degrees. Sixty nine degrees doesn't
sound cold to you. No, it's cold listening to that.
But you know what, are our bodies run at, Joe,
(20:54):
like ninety seven something or ninety eight That cold water
stuck in the heat right out of your body. And
so we're linking arms to stay warm and staying close
to stay warm. And you know it. It was only
until a boat magically appeared at a kelt patty a
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mile away where my boat initially sank. They fished that
same clt patty and came up empty, and one of
the guys on that boat had binoculars and saw something
shining in the water. And all we think is he
was either the cooler or a belt, because we strapped
belts to this cooler so people could link their arms
in there. And he had mentioned to the guy driving
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the boat, like, hey, this is weird. There's something in
the water, Like, let's go check this out. And so
if they were going to turn around and go home,
if they would have turned around and went home, you
and I were not having this fun conversation, right, But
the fact that they drove to what they thought was
a debris like a debris field in the water is
the only reason I am right here. That's the only
(22:02):
reason three and a half hours. Man, I've maybe had
two hours left before, you know, something like.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Health wise happened or god forbid the man in the
gray suit. There are some massive gray white sharks out there,
huge for like submarines out there that could just swallow
you whole.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
So there's so much going through your head when you're
out there. But I always remember getting in that boat
and just feeling this immense feeling of gratitude and thankfulness,
and it definitely changed my perspective on life. Yeah, oh completely.
I mean we joke around like, what's the craziest thing
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that's ever happened to you? I mean, has anyone? A
majority of people in this world have not had a
true life or death scenario, right, And I've been unfortunate
enough to have that at work, but not to this magnitude.
At work, I can get out of situations that are
life or death through training, right. I rely on my
training and maybe the guy's behind me on my crew.
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But when you're in a situation like that, helpless with
no help coming, no cell phones, no radio, no nothing,
it's a whole new mindset. It's a whole new mindset,
and so that definitely reset some of the things that
I'm going to do going forward and reset some of
the things that I do. When it comes to you know,
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family and friends, we overlook a lot of things. We
take things for granted. Life is really just an unstable
deck of cards that we expect to be upright every
time we wake up. When one of those cards falls,
you know, your entire stack at fall. And we take
that for granted all the time. So like just the
little things Joe, like waking up in the morning and
(23:50):
sitting on my porch and watching the sun come up.
I take that shit for granted. Why because the sun
comes up every day morning? Yeah, you know, but what
if one day it's gonna happen to us, right? Life
is life is life. We both know that you get
at some point your time card is gonna get punched, right,
And up until that point, you take all this stuff
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for granted. And it's only until you have this crazy
scare that you start, you know, really truly appreciating the
little things, man, just the heat and the sand, or
the waves crashing or it's just it's wild.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I've been doing this podcast for for a long time.
That that is the craziest story I've ever heard. That's
that's that's that's insane. I can't imagine. Well, I'm really
happy you guys are alive. That's fucking nuts. Yeah, you
you and Branden have to like, you guys are now
(24:44):
bonded for for life. I would think so.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Braiden and I were bonded before this shit even happened.
We became best friends right off the bachelorette. The day
he came home, we became brothers. And yeah, I mean,
if anything, this is another one one of those those
pages and you know our book of friendship that binds
our book even tighter than it already is. Yeah, this
(25:08):
is you know, the one thing I'm thankful for is
I didn't really know Bradon's family that well. And I
can tell you right now and now after this event,
I am his person, bro, Like I was just at
I was just at a winery with his aunt and
his mom, and I'm they literally call me their adopted son.
So you know, there's there's always a silver lining to
(25:29):
something that's that's kind of dark and scary. You just
gotta let that door open for you, right and see
what happens.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I was not expected this is this was intense. I
thought that I I w I when I watched this clip,
I was like, that's insane. But like really hearing it
from your perspective and from the person that was there,
it's just that's wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Like, let me ask you this, dude, Let me ask
you this. And I know you're the question asker, but
give me, give me at least one you. Have you
ever in your life accepted death?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Probably, Like I mean, I accepted the fact that I'm
eventually going to die. But have I ever had no Probably? No,
I would say no.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And I'm trying to walk you through my emotions on
you know that time period when we were in the water,
because at that time, two and a half hours in
with nothing in sight and no phone, no way to
reach anybody, no land. I mean literally we're bobbing up
and down these waves.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Life like just fucking lifeless, dude, just waiting for the inevitable.
Right is if you let me ask you this, if
you died today, if you accepted death and you died
today at your age, would there be any regret, any
regret whatsoever? Like I could have done more up until
(26:58):
this point or I have so much more to give,
I have so much more to do, I have so
much more for the world to see.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And I'm asking this, Yeah, I would say, I would say,
I would say yes. I would say I would say
yes to that. Yeah, I would say, There's a lot
of things I could be better at, so it should
probably work on those before I'm floating in the middle
of the ocean. Well, big Joel.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
What I'm trying to say is life is one crazy book, right,
And I get I'm fortunate or not fortunate enough to
see a lot of death in my career. And the
one thing that always gets me, man, it makes me
feel super sad is when someone's on their deathbed and
I'm right there next to them and they have regrets
on what they could have or should have done in
their lives. And so, if this story can tell you anything,
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we're lucky to be alive. We are. But any opportunity
that you take to push yourself to learn something new,
or if there's a certain thing that you haven't tried,
you want to try try it because you never know
when your book closes on you.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, No, I think that's that's that's great. Advice, Joe. Yeah,
but it's great. This this, this is this is really
uh this is the this was really good. At least
this was great. I mean insane. I'm not even speaking right,
I'm not even making words.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I mean, you're not even crying. What are you doing
over there?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You can't figure out your fucking light.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm trying to impress the audience here, I'm in a
really nice bunker to make me look like something I'm not.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Okay, all right, we have to we have to jump
the paradise real quick. Before we do, I want to
ask a real quick question. Answer it as quick as
you could. The guy that inspected, inspector who inspected the boat.
Is he to blame it all for any of this? No, okay,
I just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It was like no, no, no, no, no. This is all
bunch of orange.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Flag freak in a freak accident.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
No one's at fault for anything. Man it We're lucky
to be alive.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But yeah, I just I don't know like boat lingo,
and I'm not really you know, so I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
When you're not a Joe, you're not a botologist.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'm not a botologist, never have no it never will be.
And after the story, I will never go on a
fishing trip. I'm glad I live in a city. All right, Uh,
let's jump to paradise a little bit. First thing I
want to talk about is the most I think the
most we've seen of Aaron s up until this episode
(29:38):
has really been the little bit of beef that we
saw with you and Pete, and we all saw the
FP thing and that was weird. And now we kind
of see why you guys don't really like each other
at the mental hall. We saw it at the mental
all So, I don't know, could you just dive into that?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah? There. I have a rule. There's a there's a
rule that I go by. It's the free rule. There's
three things that if you cross me, I'm a put
you in the ground. You cross my family, you cross
my friends, or you cross me and family is you
know the girl I'm dating too, I consider them family.
(30:22):
And Pete head straight up crossed me at the beach
and I, whether you like me or not, I am
very blunt. I will not hide from my emotions. I
will tell you like it is. And words were exchanged,
and he said what he said about me to Sam
and I don't stand for that kind of shit. If
you have something to say, stay for my face. And
(30:44):
so we had a little bit of a heated exchange
and I don't really know if he's ever had someone
talk to him like that. And obviously that boiled over
in the mentel all because no one really knew knew
what had happened on the beach up until that point. Right, So,
now that everyone's seen it, I think people are starting
(31:04):
to understand why there was beef between Peter and I.
But I'll tell you this, like, now you know, Peter
and I don't have any beef, Like we've squashed it,
forgive and forget.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, So we had talked about it, talked about why
I had said the things that I had said, and yeah,
I got no bad blood for I'm not going to
hang out with him on my days off, but I'm
not going to shake his hand and give him a
hug when I see him and ask him how he's doing.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, that's good, and that's I'd like that. You guys
are are cool now and that so far, that was
one of the most genuine scenes I've seen on Paradise
yet because it was it was an off the cough
moment and I could just tell you were like, I
don't care, this is who I am. We're going to
(31:55):
have this conversation right now.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I mean sick. Sam and I on the beach
so far have one of the strongest connections and it's
just not hasn't been filmed or he shows.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, let's talk about that because we're really we're really
not seeing you guys. So and this is the most
scene as all the poop baby shit. But yeah, yeah,
how like what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I mean, I'll tell you this, dude, Like, there's literally
no drama. And I'm my partner in life, whether it's
on reality TV, on Paradise, and mind you, I didn't
know how Paradise worked until maybe two or three weeks
before when I watched the season prior and I went,
holy shit, show like this is insane. And as a partner,
(32:44):
as a man, I want my partner to feel safe,
and by feeling safe, I want to make my intentions
very prevalent for that person so they don't have any
anxiety leading up to anything, you know, day one. Sam
is probably the most ripped girl on that beach. Her
and I both come from San Diego.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
We shared that from from from not being able to
go to the bathroom for ten days or whatever it is.
She's she's got a six pack. She's not even blowed it, Like,
yeah she is.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I can't say enough great things about Sam. She is
such an amazing woman. She's beautiful, she's so driven and talented,
and we instantly hit it off day one, and I
wasn't expecting that. I I came on the beach with
thinking that I wanted to explore my cowboy days with
Brooklyn and in walk Sam and her and I really
(33:38):
really bonded and it was just this really easy going,
free flowing conversation from the moment she walked on to
that beach until now. So you know, we we had
talked and I said, hey, like, I don't want you.
She left day one of Clayton season right night one. Yeah,
(34:01):
I just wanted her experience on Bachelor in Paradise to
be different, Like, let's get to know each other, Let's
have fun. We have an entire month here to get
to know one another before we both go back to
San Diego. Let's build this solid like foundation together. We
worked out every morning, and you know, things are going great,
(34:22):
right now?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You know, do you think do you think if she
lived let's say she lived in New York, do you
think you there would have been more pressure for you
to speed things up?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
No, just because I think the ease of access of
the accessibility of travel is so readily there at your
fingertips that I'm I feel like that brings out more
of an anxious attachment style to where you want something. Now,
I truly believe some of the best things are ones
that you have to work for and take your time in.
(34:59):
But Paradise is a unique place. You have no outside
you know this, right, I mean there's no outside influences. Uh,
your your match or your your your connection is is
there for just you and to get to know just
you until the next guy or girl arrives, right, And
maybe there's some be but it's it's an atmosphere that
(35:21):
you're never gonna get ever again, right, unless you go
back to Paradise.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Are you guys at this point from what we've seen,
are you guys exclusive? If if anyone else walks down,
have you guys had that conversation?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah? And we we showed Hannah coming down to the
beach and she had pulled Braydon and I and she'd
asked me point blank are you happy? Like are you?
Are you up for a date? And I just straight
up told her like I'm right now, I'm stoked with Sam. Yeah,
And the answer is no, Like I'm probably would say
(35:54):
no to a date at this point. I mean, it
would do it would It would do us an injustice
by only knowing her for three or four days to
go on another date when we've had like a foundation
built that no one really saw yet.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I'm with you, but there's a lot of people that
and I I personally think that's that's the right way
to do paradise if if you do feel something with someone,
But a lot of people don't follow that playbook. As
we see, are you so Sam? She hasn't She hasn't
been able to go to the bathroom for ten days.
(36:32):
But all you know, and there's some lightheartedness and some
jokes about it, but in all seriousness, she may have
to go home. And that's pretty much what she's telling you.
What's going through your mind? You know, she goes home?
Are you going home? If she goes home? Women have
the roses what happens?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Like what yeah, in my mind. You know, the first
thing that came up was a dad joke like what
a shit situation? Obviously, and you know, after Sam had
mentioned she may be going home, I thought, you know,
I there's no one else on this beach that I
can't fake shit.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Dude, all right, well, let's gonna stop you. I'm gonna
stop you right there because we just don't know. Let's
we have to wait and see how this all be.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, let's just wait to see how this winds up.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Just just from that. Let's let's wait because I actually
I don't know, and I and I and I do
really want to know. And if you keep talking, I'll
probably be able to figure it out. Did did any
of you guys? Because when the guys, So, the guys
have the roses first week, so you have the power,
right to.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Joe, do you guys really have power in this world?
The answer is fucking know him run this ship. So, yeah,
we had the opportunity to give the girls a chance
to break our hearts. Yes, you're right.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Do any of you guys have a conversation? Uh? Do
do you guys have the conversation?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Like?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Are are any of you worried that maybe any of
these girls are just trying to get a roast first week?
Is that something you're cautious of or you're just not
even like playing that game?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Dude? I at this point I got my blinders on,
right because I I think I found love. So no,
I didn't expect that at least, But then again, you
only have a certain amount of days for trying to
get to know everyone, and I don't really know everyone's
true full intentions. Yeah, so no, I didn't really think
(38:27):
there's any tom fullery going on, but come to find
out there was.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Okay, all right, we're gonna play. We're gonna play a
light hearted game. Who real quick, who are right now
on the beach? Just because I want to know who
are your guys?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Who who are your guys in the beach that you're
the closest with?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah? Who do you who? Uh? I mean obviously Braiden's
Braid's my duties? What Joe, here we go, here we go,
these damn lights. You know, I'm trying to be cool,
I would say so Braiden. Braiden is my number one.
Sean's my guy.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I like Sean, Shawn's funny and Blake.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
You know what, Blake is hilarious, absolutely hilarious. He's he
reminds me of a of a of Wells, but in
a mine form. Like he just doesn't talk, you know,
because you need. If you're stressed out, you just lay
next to him. You won't say word to you, but
you just lay next to him and you feel comforted.
For some weird.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Reason, He's always doing uh a safari or his wildlife.
You guys modernate, You guys wind up being all on
the trip together. I could see that. All right, let's
jump in. Let's play this. Let's play this game real quick,
and I'll.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Let you go.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
All right, all right, rapid fire, first thing that comes
your head. None of it matters anyway, So let's get it.
Are you more of an introvert or extrovert?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Extrovert?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
What would be your go to.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Paradise cocktail, skinny margarita?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
What is the first thing you buy if you won
the lottery?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
The house? For damn, that was the first thing that
came up. That's a hard question, dude. I would make
sure my entire circle of friends and family had all
their houses paid for.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
What is your go to pump up song?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Poof Lil Wayne steady mobins.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
What is one item on your bucket list?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Bull riding? I'm doing that Thursday with Branden.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Do you have you and Braden need to stop doing
activities crazy? Do you have any deal Do you have
any dating deal breakers?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah? Multiple cats, nineties choker chains, and you're not in therapy.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
What is your love language?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Love language? Man? I am quality time.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
What is the first concert you ever attended?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Oh, this is Jesus. It would be Toby Keith at
Shoreline Amphitheater in nom View.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
What is your favorite dessert? What is the What is
an important item to pack for Paradise?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Wow? Clip loops? That sand is pot as hell? It is.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
What is one word to describe the rest of the
season of Paradise?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I mean, come on, dude, you just hand that's me
on a silver platter. Bananas?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
All right? You know what you had me at? Frozen yogurt, Aaron,
because I also love frozen yogurt. Thank you so much
for doing this podcast. Really appreciate it. Thank you to
everyone for tuning in, and remember all new episodes of
Paradise here every Thursday on ABC at nine to eight
Central following The Golden Bachelor, or you can stream It
(41:48):
stream them both the next day on Hulu, and make
sure to tune into new episodes of Butchler Happy Hour
every week. We're going to have some great guests on.
We have all kinds of exclusive interviews. You don't want
to miss them. Don't forget to subscribe. Thank you everyone, Aaron,
thank you It will see you everyone next time.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Thanks Joe
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Happy Hour. We have a
very special guest on, none other than the man himself
from Charity Season. Please welcome Aaron S to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Where's the confetti? Dude, no one really knows me. So
when you say Aaron S, Welcome Aaron S to the podcast,
I bet you half of Bachs nations like who that
we're gonna?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Well, well, yeah, I think I think after this episode
everyone knows who you are.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Maybe I would think.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
And you have a crazy story that we're gonna We're
gonna get into all that. But before we do, how'd
you get onto your fireman live? You live in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah, live in San Diego, work in Oakland. I've been
getting Greek for that lately, Guys like, don't you're not
representing the city. I work in Oakland. I work for
the city of Oakland.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Oh oh wait, you're you're you're a firefighter in Oakland,
but you live in San Diego. Yeah, how do you
make that work?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's called the super commute, baby. Yeah. It's a way
for me to completely separate work from life, and in
my line of work and the mental capacity it takes
to do what we do. For me that complete separation
is exactly what I needed. So San Diego is my
safe place. And then when I go to work, I
do my work at Oakland.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Are you Are you like on one day off too?
Do you have the that schedule or is it different?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, so every department varies. My fire department is a
forty eight ninety six, so we're on for two straight days,
twenty four hour shifts back to back, and then we
get four days off. But supercommuters like myself, we'll stack
our shifts like we'll trade. So I'll work my regular
two days and then work someone else's two days, and
then I get eight days off consecutively.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Got it? That makes it make more sense. Where are
you from.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I'm from the Bay Area, born and rased Fremont, California.
Shout out to my Freemont friends out there.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Nice. Yeah, how'd you get on Charity Season?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
How the hell? You know what? This is a crazy story, Joe.
I'm so happy I'm sharing it with you, of all
people coaching star job, I mean, your first ballot, Bachelor
Hall of Famer dude. So before I got onto the
Bachelorette Man, I was casted for Joe Millionaire.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Okay, yeah they did. Yeah, I didn't watch it, but
I know they remade that chant.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It was a Fox revamp. They were trying to rival
the Bachelor and Bachelorette from ABC. And you already got
star studied cast like yourself and Serena. I hope she's
all right, man. I heard she's not doing well. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
talk about poop babies. But yeah, man, I was casted
for that show as the non millionaire boy, and girls
(02:37):
were going to fall in love with me for who
I was. And I was going through a pivotal time
in my fire career where I wanted more out of
my career. I thought I had the ability to reach
out and help out a larger community and Oakland was
number one on my list since I was twenty three
years old, and I'd interviewed for them and they gave
(02:58):
me a job offer. The day a Fox called me
and said you got the spot as the non millionaire guy,
and so I turned it down, went to academy and
latter worled over to Oakland and I'm at the airport
one day and ABC calls me and they're like, hey,
are you interested in you know, maybe coming on the
Bachelorette and I'm like, wait, this is coming out of nowhere.
(03:23):
Get I hadn't watched this show in years. I may
have watched your season, and I'm just saying that because
you're right in front of me.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I probably don't I appreciate it. Yeah that's all you
had to say?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, yeah, that was a white life. I shouldn't even
have done that. Well, I watched tidbits right, Yeah, and
you know I didn't really have any interest. I'm thirty
four years old, and I do. I do want to
shout out to one of the Reddit people that said
that I look like I'm from the Nixon era. I'm
way too old for this shit. Okay, thirty four years old,
I get a call from AYBC. They say, hey, are
(03:55):
you interested? Of course I'm interested, But who the hell
nominated me or put my name in the man And
it was my sister and her husband who had sent
in all my information. And I'm one to create memories.
If there's an opportunity to possibly find love, possibly make
some lifelong friends, and possibly get to show you my personality,
(04:18):
I'm going to do that hands down every time. And
so I said yes, and you know, it was within
like three or four weeks, you're living this normal life
and then you're in the middle of thirty forty cameras and.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
You were able to and there was no issues with
the Oakland Fire Department. You were able to stay on
and keep the job that you want and everything.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, that was a whole nother mix because you know,
being in the fire service, we have one of the
only careers that you don't need to know us, but
we've been respected for over one hundred years. We're probably
the only entity in the United States that could literally
walk into a stranger's home and instantly you're not judgmentally
know that we're there to do good. And so I
(04:59):
had I was I was stressed out about it. Man.
I actually talk to my captain about this because we
have an image to uphold and I don't know much
about reality TV. I don't know anything about it actually,
and so I didn't know, you know, what if they
edited me this way, what if they edit me that way?
And so it was a conversation I had with a
captain of mine, and then it went up the ranks
(05:21):
to our fire chief at the time, and then went
to our legal team, and you know, me going on
the Bachelorette was hinged on them saying yes or no,
and they say, as long as you act yourself, you know,
people are gonna hate you. There are people that hate me.
But yeah, I would say majority doesn't hate me.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Joe, No, I don't. I don't think you right now,
at least you are not a hated character on this show.
Well right now, I'm in a You're good, You're good?
What you're thirty?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Four? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Have you had any serious relationships before this show? What
was dating?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Like?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Why are you single?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah? You want the baby? Will give you the basic answers. Yeah, yeah.
I have worked my tail off from the time I
was thirteen years old up until now. What people don't
know about me was I was a ranch kid before
I became a firefighter. I had my own ranching business.
I managed cattle ranches, I had two horses of my own.
(06:19):
I taught little kids horseback riding lessons, I trained horses,
had a major barb wire fencing company, and all I
knew was blue collar work. You know, when my friends
were out partying and going to high school things, I
was working at the ranch till dark and get my
homework done on the weekdays to go straight to the
ranch and work till dark. And that upbringing, you know,
(06:43):
brought me to the man I am today and taught
me some morals and values that are invaluable. And you know,
as I've become to be this like thirty four year
old man with this bushy beard, I've become picky because
I've worked really hard to get to where I am.
I feel like I'm financially stable. I've got a great career,
(07:04):
and I love my family. I'm super tight with them.
I've got a great friend group, and you know, the
last thing I want is to bring my partner into
something where they're not going to add to that. And
you know, that's become harder and harder as I get older,
is to find a partner that I that I truly
think adds to my family and adds to my friend
(07:24):
group and adds to me as much as I add
to their family, their friend group and them. And so yeah,
that's why I'm single going into the bat That's why
I was single going into the Bachelorette, And that's why
I was single going into Bachelor in Paradise. Got it
because your boys a little picky.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Got it? Okay, that's no wrong with that. I in
those long hours. I used to I used to work
in the produce market, so I would start at I'd
wake up at like one point thirty two am and
work ten twelve hour days. So I do get that.
It's it's hard to have a social life when when
you have those crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Oh wow, hold on one second, Joe, hold on. Apparently
lights shut off in the bunker room. There we go. No, I,
I actually you're you're in my story are actually a
little oddly similar.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
My uh.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I worked for my grandfather for a while, you know,
a standard five and dime like a Ace hardware, and
so you know, at a young age, I would always
go there on the weekends and stock shelves. So all
those produce guys out there, kudos. Do you do the
Lord's work. You gotta the world's gotta eat.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Man, world's world needs produce. So okay, So I was
I was at it was Charities after after the Rowse show,
and I saw Braided in the hallway and he's like, hey, bro,
if you ever get down, if you get down to
San Diego, Aaron S and I are doing a fishing trip,
(08:51):
you should come and I'm like, well, I just that's
just not that's not gonna align with what I have
going on. But I appreciate. I appreciate the end.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And then I want to say, maybe, like a month
or two months ago, I see a clip of two
bachelor guys almost drown in a f fishing trip, and
it's Branden and Aaron s Yeah, what fuck happened? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
What the fuck happened? Is right? Man? And and would
you expect none other than Braiden and Aarones to sink
about together? The answer is no, you clearly don't know
Brandon and me. Well enough Braiden and I for those
vocabulary freaks out there, But yeah, I've owned boats my
whole life. I've been around ski boats. My family has
a ski boat, and my dream since I was a
(09:46):
kid was to own my own boat. My grandfather used
to take me fishing to Alaska every year. That was
the path to manhood in his eyes, in our family.
And you know, for ten straight years I'd go to
Alaska with him, Craig Alaska, to this lodge called King
Fisher Lodge, and we literally fish for a week off
the grid with a guy who built this lodge on
his property, and it was a dream of mine doing
(10:08):
a fishing boat. And I love the ocean. There's one
thing anyone needs to know about me. I love the ocean.
It's the most humbling thing nature can throw at you.
And there's nothing more than I want than to either
surf or be on top of the water. And so
after you know, thirty four years, finally I get the
money to buy this boat. I am stoked by the
(10:30):
way about buying this boat. Talking to this guy, Braiden
and I are going surfing in Orange County and I'm like,
you know what, Braiden, I've been texting this guy on
Craiglist about this boat. You want to go look at
it with me? It'sim Fullerton. He's like, oh man, yeah,
let's let's go look at it. Anytime you make a
stupid decision, ninety percent of the time that stupid decision
(10:52):
is pushed on you by a friend, right, Or you're
going to make that decision because a friend is with you. Yeah,
when you're by yourself, you're probably gonna walk away, just
like a car when you go buy a new car.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I think, do you think you would have walked away
if Braiden was like, nah, bro, I'm out, I can't
do it.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Hell no, I'm not putting that on Braidon. Braid didn't
buy this boat. But he's like my hype man, so
of course it'll be like yeah, fuck yut, let's get
this boat. We see it. This thing is beautiful. Pay
for a whole inspection guy charges me five hundred bucks inspecs.
The boat sends me a ten page report. All systems, ago,
whole engine, bait tank, Everything on this boat is right perfect,
(11:26):
ready to go. I bring it home. I start noticing
little things on it that aren't working. The trailer's broken.
I fix the trailer. The stabilizer flaps break the first
time I take it out. I call a mechanic. I
get that fixed. And these are all little orange flags
right that start adding up. But in your stokedness, you
kind of overlook some of those orange flags and you go, well,
(11:48):
you know what, like I fix these things. You know
now that this is fixed, then nothing else is going
to break. Mind you, this boat is all It's from
the seventies, and the gentleman who I bought it from
it told me that he had redone it in his driveway.
Fiberglass gel coat and stringers. Stringers are the backbone of
a boat. Those are the ones that run down the spine.
There's usually two of them that run down the spine
of a boat, down the hole. And so, yeah, this
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is the crazy. If I would have brought this is
the thing that kills me. If I would have brought
my dad on this boat, I would have killed him
that day. And so I joke around with these guys
and I say, like, this was bound to happen. This
boat was going to sink at some point, and I
am so thankful that I sunk it with Braiden, my
buddy Gavin, who's another firefighter, Braiden's dad, and Braiden's uncle.
(12:36):
If I would have sunk it with anyone else, anyone
else on this planet, one of us would not have
come home. Okay is that crazy? Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Okay, So how far out are you and how does
it sake?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, so this is crazy. We're seventeen miles off shore,
which you might as well take a spaceship to Pluto.
There's no one out there. It's just us and everything's
going fine. Man, we're having fun. We're being guys. We're
peeing off the boat, jumping off the swim deck for
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people that fish or don't know how to fish. When
you're going for dorado or tuna, yellow tel tuna or
yellowfin tuna, you're looking for boilers in the water. So
we get to a certain GPS waypoint, which is seventeen
miles off shore. Everything's fine, and you're looking for kel
patties or a bunch of boils in the water, and
so we find Akelt Patty. We stop throwing throwing bait.
(13:31):
At this point, I realized no one on the boat
knows how to fish. So now I am a charter captain.
My name is Aarones. I'm the charter guy. I'm here
to make sure everyone's having a good time. So I'm
baiting everyone's lines for them. We're throwing them to the
kelt patties. First, kel Patty's empty. We're about three hours
into this journey. Three and a half hours go by.
We're at the second CLT Patty. Same thing, no fish bait,
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everyone's line for them. We reel up the lines. I
looked at the ocean report. It said the wind was
going to pick up at eleven. So I told the
guy's next kel patty or boiler spot that we find
like we're out of here. We're gonna fish it for
a little bit. We're gonna turn around and bounce. We
were lucky the sea was super calm that day. There
was a wind swell, but the ocean's gonna have swell
no matter what day you're there. And so the boats
(14:17):
off were drifting next to the third kelt. Patty and
my buddy hooks onto a dorado. Everyone goes to the
front of the boat. My buddy lets the line go
under the boat and then the fish runs around the prop.
The boat's off. It's not a big deal. Why you
have an outboard motor on a boat so you could
bring the prop up if you get stuck in kelp
or if a line gets crossed, you can lift the
(14:38):
prop up off the back of the boat on tangle line,
dropped the prop back down. You're good to go. Mind
you this. I'm going to tell you this. But before
I tell you this, three of the guys on that
boat had stepped on the back of the swim deck
while the boat was off. Prior to this event happening.
All the guys on the front of the boat, Gavin
(14:58):
has his line. I'd tell Gavin my buddy, Gavin, I said,
let your line out. Everything's fine. I'm gonna lift the
prop up, untangle your line. You're gonna real this fishion.
Then we're gonna head home. Prop comes up, Gavin lets
his line out. All systems a go until I step
on the swim deck. The moment I step on the
swim deck, the boat is completely underwater. In fifteen seconds gone.
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We don't have time to radio, we don't have time
to get our phones, we don't have time for anything.
And it is so unlike me to give a safety
briefing for any of the activities that I do. That's
just my nature. But I, for some weird reason, I
had given them a safety briefing before they got on
the boat. I showed them exactly where we were going,
(15:43):
so some of them had texted their wives or family, like, hey,
we're going out to this point. I showed them where
the life jackets were, every little safety piece of that boat,
where the radio was. It was on channel sixteen for
the Coastguard. And luckily, Branden's dad, who won MVP of
that entire experience, was listening to this absolutely abysmal safety
(16:06):
briefing that I'd given the guys and remembered where the
life jackets were, so he dove down and opened up
the hatch. And really, those life jackets are what saved us,
because all of a sudden you have, let me put
this into perspective, you are having the time of your
life with your closest friends, sharing an experience together that
none of us really get. One moment. You're having that experience.
(16:29):
In the next moment, Dude, you're floating in the deep
blue three hundred feet I mean we're in.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
The treading water, seventeen miles.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
From offshore, no land in sight, no boat in sight,
and it's three hundred feet deep and it was the
the ocean. I'll tell you this. I'm a water dog, right,
I was in some lessons as a kid, champion breaststroke artist.
Here surf all the time, but the deep, deep ocean
(16:58):
wants you underneath, so it pulls you in a way
that I've never been pulled before. So just getting your
life jacket on with all your like, let's start this over.
Boat sinks, life jackets get thrown out the boat. Yeah,
Braiden's tangled in fishing line, the fishing lines pulling him
under with the boat his Dad runs, swims over to him,
(17:20):
cuts the line off of Braiden. Braiden comes back up.
We all strip our clothes off to our chonies, except
for me. I kept my viory sweats on because they're
hell expensive, and we put our life jackets on. But
in that time, man, anytime that you weren't in a
life jacket, it just felt like the water was sucking
you underneath. Yeah, and what a help was feeling, right? Right?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So you guys have your life Let's get to the point.
You guys have your life jackets on. What's the conversation
like what? Because yeah, what's the conversation?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, I mean it's it's fight or flight. That the
boat had two firefighters on it. Brandon was military, Dad
was military. Uncle is a dispatcher for fire authority in
Orange County, Right, so all of us come from a
first responder background.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Is everybody in physical like physical shape.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I wouldn't say great physical shape, but you know, when
you when I say we were in the water for
three and a half hours, it becomes a mind game. Yeah,
and he who wins will last. And if there's anything
that you need to know about situations like that is
fear's cancer. And so the moment fears spread, you know,
(18:35):
that's when bad decisions are made. So to be honest
with you, man, it was floating out there was scary,
but the moment we all accepted that it might be
the end for all of us, it was such a
light tone. There were jokes being said, there was some laughter.
We nicknamed the white cooler that we all held onto
Wilson from Castaway. And you know, why die scared when
(19:01):
you could die with your closest friends happy and laughing,
you know. But I'll tell you one thing, man, I
have huge guilt from the experience, right because you invite
me to go do something that I'm not used to.
I'm going to put my life on the fact that
you know what you're doing and you're going to keep
me safe. Right where I brought four of my friends,
closest friends onto the boat with me, and it sinks
(19:22):
and puts their lives in jeopardy. And so I got
a lot of guilt because of it. That will never leave.
That's something that always carry with me. But I still
got them. You know. That's that's good.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
That that that that that's so scared. That's just a crazy, crazy,
scary story. How so, how did you get saved? You're
out there for how long? Three and a half hours
treading water?
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Mm hmm. First hour and a half it was shock right. Yeah,
we always have these bad dreams. We wake up for them, right,
You're sleeping. All of a sudden, you feel his stud
in your chest, right, and you wake up before the
plane crafts or you fall off a building, before you
hit the ground. You always feel the stud in your
chest and you wake up. And so the whole top.
For an hour and a half, I am believing that
(20:08):
this is a shit dream, like this has got to
be a bad, bad dream, and I'm just not waking
up for some reason. And then I started dealing with
some real ash shit, like I started shivering, bad, bad, bad,
and then I started cramping up because all I had
was coffee in the morning. And then I knew at
that point, hour and a half into it, my time
card got punched. And that's when that's when the realization
(20:32):
of things being real really hit me. And you know,
we we were all really in a survival mode for
three and a half hours, and it was anything and
everything we could do to stay warm. We all linked arms.
The water was sixty eight degrees. Sixty nine degrees doesn't
sound cold to you. No, it's cold listening to that.
But you know what, are our bodies run at, Joe,
(20:54):
like ninety seven something or ninety eight That cold water
stuck in the heat right out of your body. And
so we're linking arms to stay warm and staying close
to stay warm. And you know it. It was only
until a boat magically appeared at a kelt patty a
(21:16):
mile away where my boat initially sank. They fished that
same clt patty and came up empty, and one of
the guys on that boat had binoculars and saw something
shining in the water. And all we think is he
was either the cooler or a belt, because we strapped
belts to this cooler so people could link their arms
in there. And he had mentioned to the guy driving
(21:39):
the boat, like, hey, this is weird. There's something in
the water, Like, let's go check this out. And so
if they were going to turn around and go home,
if they would have turned around and went home, you
and I were not having this fun conversation, right, But
the fact that they drove to what they thought was
a debris like a debris field in the water is
the only reason I am right here. That's the only
(22:02):
reason three and a half hours. Man, I've maybe had
two hours left before, you know, something like.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Health wise happened or god forbid the man in the
gray suit. There are some massive gray white sharks out there,
huge for like submarines out there that could just swallow
you whole.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
So there's so much going through your head when you're
out there. But I always remember getting in that boat
and just feeling this immense feeling of gratitude and thankfulness,
and it definitely changed my perspective on life. Yeah, oh completely.
I mean we joke around like, what's the craziest thing
(22:43):
that's ever happened to you? I mean, has anyone? A
majority of people in this world have not had a
true life or death scenario, right, And I've been unfortunate
enough to have that at work, but not to this magnitude.
At work, I can get out of situations that are
life or death through training, right. I rely on my
training and maybe the guy's behind me on my crew.
(23:06):
But when you're in a situation like that, helpless with
no help coming, no cell phones, no radio, no nothing,
it's a whole new mindset. It's a whole new mindset,
and so that definitely reset some of the things that
I'm going to do going forward and reset some of
the things that I do. When it comes to you know,
(23:27):
family and friends, we overlook a lot of things. We
take things for granted. Life is really just an unstable
deck of cards that we expect to be upright every
time we wake up. When one of those cards falls,
you know, your entire stack at fall. And we take
that for granted all the time. So like just the
little things Joe, like waking up in the morning and
(23:50):
sitting on my porch and watching the sun come up.
I take that shit for granted. Why because the sun
comes up every day morning? Yeah, you know, but what
if one day it's gonna happen to us, right? Life
is life is life. We both know that you get
at some point your time card is gonna get punched, right,
And up until that point, you take all this stuff
(24:10):
for granted. And it's only until you have this crazy
scare that you start, you know, really truly appreciating the
little things, man, just the heat and the sand, or
the waves crashing or it's just it's wild.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I've been doing this podcast for for a long time.
That that is the craziest story I've ever heard. That's
that's that's that's insane. I can't imagine. Well, I'm really
happy you guys are alive. That's fucking nuts. Yeah, you
you and Branden have to like, you guys are now
(24:44):
bonded for for life. I would think so.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Braiden and I were bonded before this shit even happened.
We became best friends right off the bachelorette. The day
he came home, we became brothers. And yeah, I mean,
if anything, this is another one one of those those
pages and you know our book of friendship that binds
our book even tighter than it already is. Yeah, this
(25:08):
is you know, the one thing I'm thankful for is
I didn't really know Bradon's family that well. And I
can tell you right now and now after this event,
I am his person, bro, Like I was just at
I was just at a winery with his aunt and
his mom, and I'm they literally call me their adopted son.
So you know, there's there's always a silver lining to
(25:29):
something that's that's kind of dark and scary. You just
gotta let that door open for you, right and see
what happens.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
I was not expected this is this was intense. I
thought that I I w I when I watched this clip,
I was like, that's insane. But like really hearing it
from your perspective and from the person that was there,
it's just that's wow. Wow.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Like, let me ask you this, dude, Let me ask
you this. And I know you're the question asker, but
give me, give me at least one you. Have you
ever in your life accepted death?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Probably, Like I mean, I accepted the fact that I'm
eventually going to die. But have I ever had no Probably? No,
I would say no.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
And I'm trying to walk you through my emotions on
you know that time period when we were in the water,
because at that time, two and a half hours in
with nothing in sight and no phone, no way to
reach anybody, no land. I mean literally we're bobbing up
and down these waves.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Life like just fucking lifeless, dude, just waiting for the inevitable.
Right is if you let me ask you this, if
you died today, if you accepted death and you died
today at your age, would there be any regret, any
regret whatsoever? Like I could have done more up until
(26:58):
this point or I have so much more to give,
I have so much more to do, I have so
much more for the world to see.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And I'm asking this, Yeah, I would say, I would say,
I would say yes. I would say I would say
yes to that. Yeah, I would say, There's a lot
of things I could be better at, so it should
probably work on those before I'm floating in the middle
of the ocean. Well, big Joel.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
What I'm trying to say is life is one crazy book, right,
And I get I'm fortunate or not fortunate enough to
see a lot of death in my career. And the
one thing that always gets me, man, it makes me
feel super sad is when someone's on their deathbed and
I'm right there next to them and they have regrets
on what they could have or should have done in
their lives. And so, if this story can tell you anything,
(27:43):
we're lucky to be alive. We are. But any opportunity
that you take to push yourself to learn something new,
or if there's a certain thing that you haven't tried,
you want to try try it because you never know
when your book closes on you.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah, No, I think that's that's that's great. Advice, Joe. Yeah,
but it's great. This this, this is this is really
uh this is the this was really good. At least
this was great. I mean insane. I'm not even speaking right,
I'm not even making words.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
I mean, you're not even crying. What are you doing
over there?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You can't figure out your fucking light.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm trying to impress the audience here, I'm in a
really nice bunker to make me look like something I'm not.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Okay, all right, we have to we have to jump
the paradise real quick. Before we do, I want to
ask a real quick question. Answer it as quick as
you could. The guy that inspected, inspector who inspected the boat.
Is he to blame it all for any of this? No, okay,
I just didn't know.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It was like no, no, no, no, no. This is all
bunch of orange.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Flag freak in a freak accident.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
No one's at fault for anything. Man it We're lucky
to be alive.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But yeah, I just I don't know like boat lingo,
and I'm not really you know, so I'm just curious.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
When you're not a Joe, you're not a botologist.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'm not a botologist, never have no it never will be.
And after the story, I will never go on a
fishing trip. I'm glad I live in a city. All right, Uh,
let's jump to paradise a little bit. First thing I
want to talk about is the most I think the
most we've seen of Aaron s up until this episode
(29:38):
has really been the little bit of beef that we
saw with you and Pete, and we all saw the
FP thing and that was weird. And now we kind
of see why you guys don't really like each other
at the mental hall. We saw it at the mental
all So, I don't know, could you just dive into that?
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Yeah? There. I have a rule. There's a there's a
rule that I go by. It's the free rule. There's
three things that if you cross me, I'm a put
you in the ground. You cross my family, you cross
my friends, or you cross me and family is you
know the girl I'm dating too, I consider them family.
(30:22):
And Pete head straight up crossed me at the beach
and I, whether you like me or not, I am
very blunt. I will not hide from my emotions. I
will tell you like it is. And words were exchanged,
and he said what he said about me to Sam
and I don't stand for that kind of shit. If
you have something to say, stay for my face. And
(30:44):
so we had a little bit of a heated exchange
and I don't really know if he's ever had someone
talk to him like that. And obviously that boiled over
in the mentel all because no one really knew knew
what had happened on the beach up until that point. Right, So,
now that everyone's seen it, I think people are starting
(31:04):
to understand why there was beef between Peter and I.
But I'll tell you this, like, now you know, Peter
and I don't have any beef, Like we've squashed it,
forgive and forget.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, So we had talked about it, talked about why
I had said the things that I had said, and yeah,
I got no bad blood for I'm not going to
hang out with him on my days off, but I'm
not going to shake his hand and give him a
hug when I see him and ask him how he's doing.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, that's good, and that's I'd like that. You guys
are are cool now and that so far, that was
one of the most genuine scenes I've seen on Paradise
yet because it was it was an off the cough
moment and I could just tell you were like, I
don't care, this is who I am. We're going to
(31:55):
have this conversation right now.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I mean sick. Sam and I on the beach
so far have one of the strongest connections and it's
just not hasn't been filmed or he shows.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, let's talk about that because we're really we're really
not seeing you guys. So and this is the most
scene as all the poop baby shit. But yeah, yeah,
how like what's going on there?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
I mean, I'll tell you this, dude, Like, there's literally
no drama. And I'm my partner in life, whether it's
on reality TV, on Paradise, and mind you, I didn't
know how Paradise worked until maybe two or three weeks
before when I watched the season prior and I went,
holy shit, show like this is insane. And as a partner,
(32:44):
as a man, I want my partner to feel safe,
and by feeling safe, I want to make my intentions
very prevalent for that person so they don't have any
anxiety leading up to anything, you know, day one. Sam
is probably the most ripped girl on that beach. Her
and I both come from San Diego.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
We shared that from from from not being able to
go to the bathroom for ten days or whatever it is.
She's she's got a six pack. She's not even blowed it, Like,
yeah she is.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I can't say enough great things about Sam. She is
such an amazing woman. She's beautiful, she's so driven and talented,
and we instantly hit it off day one, and I
wasn't expecting that. I I came on the beach with
thinking that I wanted to explore my cowboy days with
Brooklyn and in walk Sam and her and I really
(33:38):
really bonded and it was just this really easy going,
free flowing conversation from the moment she walked on to
that beach until now. So you know, we we had
talked and I said, hey, like, I don't want you.
She left day one of Clayton season right night one. Yeah,
(34:01):
I just wanted her experience on Bachelor in Paradise to
be different, Like, let's get to know each other, Let's
have fun. We have an entire month here to get
to know one another before we both go back to
San Diego. Let's build this solid like foundation together. We
worked out every morning, and you know, things are going great,
(34:22):
right now?
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You know, do you think do you think if she
lived let's say she lived in New York, do you
think you there would have been more pressure for you
to speed things up?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
No, just because I think the ease of access of
the accessibility of travel is so readily there at your
fingertips that I'm I feel like that brings out more
of an anxious attachment style to where you want something. Now,
I truly believe some of the best things are ones
that you have to work for and take your time in.
(34:59):
But Paradise is a unique place. You have no outside
you know this, right, I mean there's no outside influences. Uh,
your your match or your your your connection is is
there for just you and to get to know just
you until the next guy or girl arrives, right, And
maybe there's some be but it's it's an atmosphere that
(35:21):
you're never gonna get ever again, right, unless you go
back to Paradise.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Are you guys at this point from what we've seen,
are you guys exclusive? If if anyone else walks down,
have you guys had that conversation?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah? And we we showed Hannah coming down to the
beach and she had pulled Braydon and I and she'd
asked me point blank are you happy? Like are you?
Are you up for a date? And I just straight
up told her like I'm right now, I'm stoked with Sam. Yeah,
And the answer is no, Like I'm probably would say
(35:54):
no to a date at this point. I mean, it
would do it would It would do us an injustice
by only knowing her for three or four days to
go on another date when we've had like a foundation
built that no one really saw yet.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I'm with you, but there's a lot of people that
and I I personally think that's that's the right way
to do paradise if if you do feel something with someone,
But a lot of people don't follow that playbook. As
we see, are you so Sam? She hasn't She hasn't
been able to go to the bathroom for ten days.
(36:32):
But all you know, and there's some lightheartedness and some
jokes about it, but in all seriousness, she may have
to go home. And that's pretty much what she's telling you.
What's going through your mind? You know, she goes home?
Are you going home? If she goes home? Women have
the roses what happens?
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Like what yeah, in my mind. You know, the first
thing that came up was a dad joke like what
a shit situation? Obviously, and you know, after Sam had
mentioned she may be going home, I thought, you know,
I there's no one else on this beach that I
can't fake shit.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Dude, all right, well, let's gonna stop you. I'm gonna
stop you right there because we just don't know. Let's
we have to wait and see how this all be.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, let's just wait to see how this winds up.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Just just from that. Let's let's wait because I actually
I don't know, and I and I and I do
really want to know. And if you keep talking, I'll
probably be able to figure it out. Did did any
of you guys? Because when the guys, So, the guys
have the roses first week, so you have the power,
right to.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Joe, do you guys really have power in this world?
The answer is fucking know him run this ship. So, yeah,
we had the opportunity to give the girls a chance
to break our hearts. Yes, you're right.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Do any of you guys have a conversation? Uh? Do
do you guys have the conversation?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Like?
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Are are any of you worried that maybe any of
these girls are just trying to get a roast first week?
Is that something you're cautious of or you're just not
even like playing that game?
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Dude? I at this point I got my blinders on,
right because I I think I found love. So no,
I didn't expect that at least, But then again, you
only have a certain amount of days for trying to
get to know everyone, and I don't really know everyone's
true full intentions. Yeah, so no, I didn't really think
(38:27):
there's any tom fullery going on, but come to find
out there was.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Okay, all right, we're gonna play. We're gonna play a
light hearted game. Who real quick, who are right now
on the beach? Just because I want to know who
are your guys?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Like?
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Who who are your guys in the beach that you're
the closest with?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Yeah? Who do you who? Uh? I mean obviously Braiden's
Braid's my duties? What Joe, here we go, here we go,
these damn lights. You know, I'm trying to be cool,
I would say so Braiden. Braiden is my number one.
Sean's my guy.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I like Sean, Shawn's funny and Blake.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
You know what, Blake is hilarious, absolutely hilarious. He's he
reminds me of a of a of Wells, but in
a mine form. Like he just doesn't talk, you know,
because you need. If you're stressed out, you just lay
next to him. You won't say word to you, but
you just lay next to him and you feel comforted.
For some weird.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Reason, He's always doing uh a safari or his wildlife.
You guys modernate, You guys wind up being all on
the trip together. I could see that. All right, let's
jump in. Let's play this. Let's play this game real quick,
and I'll.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Let you go.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
All right, all right, rapid fire, first thing that comes
your head. None of it matters anyway, So let's get it.
Are you more of an introvert or extrovert?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Extrovert?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
What would be your go to.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Paradise cocktail, skinny margarita?
Speaker 1 (39:57):
What is the first thing you buy if you won
the lottery?
Speaker 2 (40:01):
The house? For damn, that was the first thing that
came up. That's a hard question, dude. I would make
sure my entire circle of friends and family had all
their houses paid for.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
What is your go to pump up song?
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Poof Lil Wayne steady mobins.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
What is one item on your bucket list?
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Bull riding? I'm doing that Thursday with Branden.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Do you have you and Braden need to stop doing
activities crazy? Do you have any deal Do you have
any dating deal breakers?
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Yeah? Multiple cats, nineties choker chains, and you're not in therapy.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
What is your love language?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Love language? Man? I am quality time.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
What is the first concert you ever attended?
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Oh, this is Jesus. It would be Toby Keith at
Shoreline Amphitheater in nom View.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
What is your favorite dessert? What is the What is
an important item to pack for Paradise?
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Wow? Clip loops? That sand is pot as hell? It is.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
What is one word to describe the rest of the
season of Paradise?
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I mean, come on, dude, you just hand that's me
on a silver platter. Bananas?
Speaker 1 (41:28):
All right? You know what you had me at? Frozen yogurt, Aaron,
because I also love frozen yogurt. Thank you so much
for doing this podcast. Really appreciate it. Thank you to
everyone for tuning in, and remember all new episodes of
Paradise here every Thursday on ABC at nine to eight
Central following The Golden Bachelor, or you can stream It
(41:48):
stream them both the next day on Hulu, and make
sure to tune into new episodes of Butchler Happy Hour
every week. We're going to have some great guests on.
We have all kinds of exclusive interviews. You don't want
to miss them. Don't forget to subscribe. Thank you everyone, Aaron,
thank you It will see you everyone next time.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
Thanks Joe
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