December 16, 2025 • 28 mins
Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena are catching up with Allyshia Gupta! She talks about what dating looks like for her these days — including the story behind getting banned from a popular dating app. Allyshia also shares her thoughts on the Dale and Kat rumors and gives her perspective on what’s been circulating. Plus, she opens up about where things stand with Sean today and how their relationship has changed since the show. And finally, would Allyshia ever consider heading to “Paradise”? She breaks down how she feels about returning to the beach and what it would take for her to say yes. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Happy Hour. I'm Jeous.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thanks for Rea.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We are here today with Alicia. Alicia, welcome back to
Better Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey guys, thanks for having back.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You were just saying you believe that dogs want gifts.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I do.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I think animals are much presence. Yeah, Christmas or Honka,
whatever you celebrate. But yeah, he basically told me that
dogs they get the idea of like gift giving, so
it's very important you put a Christmas tree, a present
under the Christmas tree from them, so like on Christmas
Day or whenever you're opening your gifts, they're part of
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the ceremony. And yeah, my dog's getting a little bit
too excited and starting to open some Christmas presents early.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's so interesting though that they see wrapped boxes and
they're like, I want to know what's inside.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I know.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I mean he was going for something that was like
a scented candle if I pell, so maybe he's going
off like the smell, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We've put a gift under the tree that's like to
mommy from Bagel.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, or from Bagel to like my sister or my
mom or whoever. I'll get presents for other people from Bagel.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
My mom does that for our.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Dog, for Winston.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
That's adorable.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Get Winston gifts more often.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I know, I know it should bring We should bring
him a gift.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, he's a good boy, Bagel confirms Winston would like
more gifts.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, we're I think I know this, but you're you're
in Florida right.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm in LA right now, but my mom's in Florida,
and I usually do spend the holidays back home in Florida,
but this will be one of the first years that
I'm spending it out in LA with my sister, and
my Mom's gonna fly out and do a little Christmas
here together, just the three of us.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Are you living in LA? Are you just there visiting
your sister.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, I've been in LA for probably the last six
months permanently. Okay, so I've been living and working out
here and in between you know, shows, I can go
to ordered to visit, but I really primarily spent most
of my time on the West Coast since actually most
of all of twenty twenty five. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Can't believe you love it.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
You know, It's like kind of a homecoming for me
because I always wanted to live in LA never had visited,
and then after college I applied to some jobs out
here and landed like my first job in LA. Thought
it was gonna be my dream job. Had a week,
moved out how to live with some random roommates online,
and I just fell in love. And I worked out
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here for a couple of years up until the pandemic
hit and then my lease was up, and so naturally
I was like, Okay, I'll go quarantine in Florida with
my family for a couple months, and you know the
story goes. It was a lot longer than that, so
it took me some time to get back to the
West Coast. But I do feel like almost like I'm
back home.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
In a way.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, do you think you could are use somebody? Could
you ever live in cold weather?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I mean I have.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I did do New York for a couple of years
and that was brutal, And then being born in England, like,
it's very.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Very chilly there most of the year, especially in the north.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
But I would prefer not to if I have my choice,
I would absolutely prefer Like, Oh, I think a week
of snow is great, build a snowman, go skiing, do
all the like activities and then yeah, I would love
to come back to like a beach and be in
a bikini on Christmas Day.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That's so fine with me.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, Joe always says, and I do agree, Like
leaving Christmas Day or the day after Christmas to go
somewhere warm when you are living somewhere cold is a
good feeling.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
It is, but I guess it's also like the grass
is always greener, right, because like then in return, when
you're in Florida, I have so many family members and
friends that complain like it's so weird that we don't
have snow, and like we'd love to have a cold
Christmas Day.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And it's like you want what you can't have.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, I do like a chili holiday season, like I
like snow.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I just want to leave. I just want to leave
Christmas night. I want to leave Christmas night and then
come back in April.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, and starting the new year doesn't need to be
dark and rainy and cold for like the next couple months.
I think the day after Christmas like we should wrap
up with all the cold.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well it is, I'm like, yeah, and like this is
a nice time of year. In New York, but like still,
it's like I was walking home yesterday and it was
four fifteen, and I'm like, it's it's dark out, Like
it's fucking dark out already, and I'm just like, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That's another thing is like seasonal depression is so real,
and I think when I don't get as much sunset sunshine.
Maybe it's because I grew up like a lot in
Florida where we had that, But something about not getting
the sun is like, we'll put me in a funk.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I agree. I need I need
more sun myself. I'm very pale right now.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah next to Serena, you're always going to be pale.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I hate just got that good tan.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You're never gonna catch up on this mellon in. But
last time we chatted with you, you had just enjoyed
a lot of sun on batt Or in Paradise and
we caught up with you kind of mid season. You
couldn't say everything, but we had an awesome chat.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Let's just touch base quickly on like everything unfolded. You
kind of had it out with Cat and we recently
have seen posts that have confirmed Kat and Dale have
likely broken up. Were you aware of this? What have
you heard? Are you still interested in Dale? Where are
we at with all of this like love triangle esque situation?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's so funny, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I don't keep up with like what Cat and Dale
have been doing post the show, so I don't know
about their current relationship status.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm not surprised if they have split up, but.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I think that's just you know, I'm a I'm a
pretty big believer that in time, the truth comes out,
everything comes out, so but you know, I'm not one
to like champion any breakups, so I wish them both
the best if they did decide to go their separate ways.
I don't have an interest in Dale anymore, you know.
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I think it was one thing on the beach in Paradise.
Had we had the opportunity to it is something I
would have explored. But I think after the entire season,
and especially with him and the Cat drama, I just
don't think that that the same guy who is going
to date Cat is going to be interested in having
a serious relationship with me. So, for all intents and purposes,
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I date because I want a husband, I want to
have kids, I want to start a family, and I'm
really looking for somebody who is qualified and like also
wants that in return. So yeah, I would say I
don't look back moving forward. But that's not surprising to hear.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Are you dating anyone now? Are you currently dating at least?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
No? No, God, no, No, I wish I was.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I'm just like I said, like I'm I wouldn't say
I'm picky. I'm just I don't want to date just
to date, Like my time is valuable. I would rather
spend my Friday nights on the sofa with my little
sister or my friends or bagel. Then you know, going
on a first date if it's never going to go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And I think a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Of people date at this age just because it's fun.
Like I have a lot of friends who love to
go out on the first date, and they like, they
love to have that, like you know, the first match.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't. I don't like that, like I don't like
getting to know you take yeh.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
But but how do you know if it's not going
to go somewhere, if you don't go on the date.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And that is the prediction, that's the predicament I'm in
because part of me, I'm like, my husband's not going
to be at a sports bar at two in the
morning on a Thursday, so like, why would I go up? Well,
I don't care if I'm going to meet someone there
that's not my future husband. But then my sister does
argue with me. She's like, you got to put yourself
out there to some degree if you want to meet someone.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I mean, I'm open to it. I just really haven't
had any matches that have interested me whatsoever. And I
think maybe I'm a little jaded from Paradise experience, you know,
getting to know someone and thinking that there's someone very
different than.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Who they ended up being.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That was a little bit of a setback for me
in terms of dating. So I don't know if it's
the walls or if it's.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Timing or I don't know, but no, I'm what about Hinge.
I am blocked off Hinge. I got banned off Hinge.
Can't tell you why. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I think just because I didn't go out on dates
with some of the people I matched with, somebody must
have reported me. And I emailed Hine and I was like,
who reported me? And they're like, we can't. We can't
say that, so I don't know. I think it was
just like somebody would hurt feelings. And then I was like,
I'm not going to beg to be back on Hinge.
If I got banned from Hinge, I think that's a
sign that, like God's saying, your husband's also not on there.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So I'm on Riah.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And yeah, I mean I go out occasionally, but it's tough.
All the good ones are like either married at this
age or I don't know, not serious enough.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean it is the dating
dating world is the wild wild West. But but if
you don't put yourself out there, then it's gonna be hard.
It's gonna be hard.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I know I do put myself out there. I'm one
who like sides in the DMS. I will like ask
the guy out first if I'm interested.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And honestly, I've seen some.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Of the guys who I think might be on Taylor
Frankie Paul's season, and if I'm right about any of
those guys, then maybe that will open a whole different
world of possibilities.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It looks like it's a very good cast.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It does, and like the older they are okay with
having kids, obviously, and I feel like she's going for
like a real man, like a cowboy man, and I
like that. I haven't had I haven't dated one of
those before, so maybe that's maybe that's in my future.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Would you stante with Sean.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I don't speak to Sean.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Oh okay, we're not as speaking terms anymore.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
No, not because of anything like happened that we're not
on speaking terms.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We just don't have a relationship.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I thought that Sean and I had created a relationship
off of what was a friendship first and or foundation,
and that was kind of broken and he did a
lot of things behind my back that I was unbeknownst
to me that really shocked me. And to be honest,
moving forward, like if I don't want a boyfriend like that,
I don't want any friends like that either. So there's
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no like bad blood between us. I think we are
just very different people looking for different things in friendships
and in relationships. So no, we don't have much like
crossover things to talk about. He wished me a happy birthday,
and every now and then, you know, he'll respond to
a story here and there, But I'm not that interested
in keeping that relationship open or moving forward.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I mean, that's honestly pretty pretty common from the show,
just like people like they get close in Paradise and
then like it just like life happens, right, Like you
live in different places. You realize you you don't connect
as well as you did in the scenario you were
put in, and it's just like okay, yeah, like no
bad blood, but we're just not We're just not Yeah,
(11:23):
we're just not really close.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I think there's also.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It feels like there's almost like a double layer of
relationships in Bachelor Nation as well, which I really felt
like after Bachelor in Paradise because you get to know
these real people and these people who are you know,
your your castmates, what are on your co stars on
the Bachelor, or the other girls who are dating the
(11:48):
same guy as you, like, you get to know them.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
They're real people, they're real relationships.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And then almost after the show there is like a
social media or online relationships between people, and I felt like,
I don't know, I think there's a lot of people
who go on the show who come off the show
and are kind of still living in this like online
reality or like care about the stuff that's being said online,
(12:13):
and it's like you know me, I would prefer to
be like, have a real relationship with someone. I guess
it is the best way of saying I don't know
how to articulate that in a better way, but yeah,
I think there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Of people go on the Batcheler who are really concerned with.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Their image host airing regardless of what their actual personal
relationships are. And to me that I don't really love that.
So I think Sean kind of fell into that category.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
If you could go on any of the other dating
reality shows, is there anything you would be interested in doing?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Oh god, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I think anything that would have a real shot at
like leading to a relationship I would really be open to.
I would really be open to another around at Paradise
if we get another one.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I was going to ask that because if like I
need a redemption art, if there's some of Taylor, Frankie
Paul's guys that you are interested in, that would be
that would be the perfect match.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And I feel like they threw you down kind of
as like a poster a wild card, like mid season,
Like you came in so late, you're the last person.
It would be fun to see you down there first.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, Like I was so excited for Paradise because I
was really excited to like date people and get to
know people. Like what we just said, I don't go
out a lot, so like for me, it's very rare
to be in an environment where you're just solely focusing
on that, and I'm being very intentional about that. So
I was really excited to have that opportunity and really
thought like I would meet a couple of people that
might be a match that you.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Know, might turn into something serious.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
And unfortunately, like just the timing of it, I don't
feel like I went to Paradise. I came into two
weeks late, and then as soon as the first rose ceremony,
we got told it's now a game show and you're
competing with the couple who you cruble up with.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
So I don't think I got the dating.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
On a competition show.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You definitely didn't do our Paradise that we did, Like
it was very different.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, And I think, you know, I think that
you have better odds almost with a reality show like Paradise,
where there are multiple people all getting to know each
other in what's more of a relaxed environment than like
the one on one bachelor type shows and even just
you know, statistically like you're more likely to find a
match there. So I would be open to doing Paradise again.
(14:38):
That was a lot of fun, and I think I've
learned a lot about myself and how other people can
be on shows like that, So I think I would
go into it with probably like a very different mentality
than previously.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah. Nice.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Okay, Well, speaking of reality shows moving away from dating,
we know that you were just on, well you're going
to be on You've just recently filmed this HGTV Bachelor
Mansion makeover show. What can you tell us about that?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
That way more exciting than dating shows because one HGTV, Like,
that's so exciting.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I grew up watching it, love it.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I'm an interior designer by profession, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That is your So that is your job?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yes, yes, So you know, going into it, I was
like so excited because when it comes to my love
life and dating, yeah, I don't really have a clue
how I'm going to be my mister perfect or I'm
very off track in that department. But when it comes
to design and all things home in tier design and renovation,
like that is my sweet spot, so I was really
(15:47):
excited to be tapped for that and asked to come
on the show. I had no idea, you know, what
was in store for us or what it was really
going to entail. But I know the Bachelor Mansion desperately
need did a makeover and a little bit of a facelift,
so I knew we would be doing something to the
really iconic Bachelor Mansion.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And I think that's all I can say for now.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Is what is your interior design like style? Do you
have like a certain style that you can explain?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, I mean I hate that question in a way
because my personal opinion, any good interior design is never
one style. It's a combination of multiple and I think
that's what makes design and interior designers really complex and
meaningful and thoughtful. So I wouldn't just say one specific
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design style would be my taste. And I also say
it really just depends on the project and the building.
So for the Bachelor Mansion, for example, beautiful Spanish revival
home and style that would be doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
If I love modern, clean everything, that would be.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Crazy to come in and put that inside a home
with those types of bones. So oftentimes and why Jill
was so useful for the show as well. You do
look at the architecture of the building and the facade
itself to kind of direct you and indicate what style
is going to be mirrored on the inside, and then
from there, I like to pull a lot of different things.
(17:16):
I'm really loving maximalism right now, I'm really loving Bao House,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Really loving brutalism.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I would say those are like three for twoenty twenty
six that I'm exploring more and trends that are on
the forefront.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Of intire size.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What is brutalism.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Brutalism is a type of interior design style that's kind
of revival now, but it's essentially design based off function.
So things were never meant to be beautiful. They're meant
to be functional and built like a machine, and so
it was a very scientific approach to interior design, and
(17:56):
now people are praising it's kind of like a chemo
ash and style house where it's very minimal, a lot
of stones, a lot of cold concrete textures.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Clean lines, and very natural materials.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
So you see a lot of stones, a lot of woods,
a lot of marbles.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Sounds almost contrasting to maximalism a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
It is, it is, And that's why it's so hard
to pick like one interior design style because I think
the best designs they are a combination of so many.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Do you are you like? Are you anti any colors?
Like if you were to design your own place, is
are you like? Absolutely not? Like there's no orange in
my fucking house.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
No way. I'm all for like every single color, time
and place. There's a right. I mean part of my.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Education and experience in design, I went to get my
master's for interior design and architecture, and so in that
you learned the importance of color theory and more than that,
the psychology behind color and important each color kind of
plays a role in the house and in the space.
And I think that's a big part of my approach
to design, is thinking about how it's going to make
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a person feel when they're in that room, and color
massively plays into that. So there's not one color that's
off for me, But I would say purple is not
my favorite.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I rarely work with purple.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay, how do you feel like your experience withinter your
design helped you in this competition?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I mean, I was ready for this competition for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
If anything, I wish you're one of the few people
that are on the show that have competition experience too.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
What do you mean like having done the.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Paradise, I mean having done and you really did Paradise
the second half of Paradise, so you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
A lot of people on the show have only ever
been on reality dating ship.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, And I felt, like I said, like so much
more comfortable. It's like, Okay, I'm kind of in control
of my own destiny here because I'm good at this.
And you know, I didn't know what the outcome of
going on The Bachelor or Bachelor in Paradise is going
to be.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
You hope that it's an end goal that you get to.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But with this, I was like I came in, I'm like,
why there's no reason why I won't win this show,
Like I can do this.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I feel so confident. I know I'm good at this.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I was also just excited to like share my ideas
with such an iconic project like the Bachelor mansion.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That's huge. You know, It's like I'm pretty sure it's.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
The most filmed home on television or in reality TV
or something.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Surprised. Yeah, it really stuck to it.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, So, I mean it definitely prepared me. It prepared me,
But there's also things that you just cannot be ever
prepared for when it comes to anything related to you know,
Bachelor and of course the HGTV show, there's some like
twists and turns in the plot, so you'll have to
watch to see how it all unfolds. And so yeah,
(20:53):
I was prepared as prepared as I could be going
into it.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Was there anyone that you were happy to see or
enjoyed like meeting for the first time get along with?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Okay, I have like a girl crush on Joan. I
love her.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
She does have great style Like she does she always
puts the other like really great outfits. I feel like
any clips they showed of her, like in her home
on her season, it always looked like really well designed exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
She was just such a joy to be around and
like really made my HGTV Bachelor renovation experience so much better.
Like I couldn't imagine doing it without her.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
As someone who has their masters in interior design and
you do it professionally, are you are there? Are there ever?
Like hare like? For like I believe that I am
like I could be a good I could.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Has a secret passion for interior design.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I don't know why, Yes I have, Yes I have.
That's elect I designed my I designed my old condo
that I no longer had have, but I designed it myself.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And you know what, that photo has been passed around
to like your cousin, million other people, that postive photo.
Everyone wants their hands on it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I know, oh true, true. But like so someone like
me who has like little to no experience, right, are
you ever like impressed or surprised or by like seeing
someone that doesn't know what they're doing design an apartment
or a home or are you always like, Okay, this
(22:28):
is is amateur This is amateur work most.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Of the time.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I would say it does fall into like the amateur category,
just because there is there's a science behind design, and
like there's principles that make a design a good design, balance, harmony, rhythm, repetition,
So there are certain elements that you can categorize and
objectively look at and say is this you know, does
this fall into like a good design? But I will say, also,
(22:56):
you know, some people are naturally born with an eye,
and I think you're probably falling into that category show
where like you've got an eye for design, that doesn't
mean that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
You can see aren't any well, I didn't do this,
I didn't do this, I didn't do this.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
So yeah, I love that you're like very offended by
like you can't your name's not on the design right now,
like he's not attaching his name to this backdrop. But no,
I would say, there are people that do surprise me
every now and then, And I think you get really fresh,
cool ideas when you are coming from a place of
perhaps less analytical background and more of just a creative
(23:36):
mind that comes up with cool concepts. So it's a
little bit of both, but it's also very it's very
difficult to I think what's very difficult it was difficult
with the show is when you're working with other people
who don't have.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That background and experience.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
It's you don't want to I never want people to
feel like their ideas aren't heard because creative I think ideas,
everybody's ideas are equally is important. The execution of it
is where I think an interior designer with a professional
background and education in it will perhaps excel on Like
the execution, you know, right between like the idea and execution.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean if we're on the show, if we're on
the show together, you and I, like I might be like, oh,
I think this looks really pretty, But also, what do
you think? I'm not an interior designer, Like why would
we go with my opinion over yours a.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Situation like that?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, but you know that's also like that's part of
the show and heads definitely, But and that was I
thought the most challenging part because obviously coming from a
background or I'm like, listen, I get paid to do this.
This is like, when the show's done, I'm going back
to doing this no offense for other people. But like
I it was important that my voice was heard. And
(24:51):
that's a really tricky line to like kind of walk,
because people do get their feelings hurt and they do
take it personally.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
That well, why don't you like that color chair that
I picked out?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
And it's not a personal, you know, opinion, it's just
this is professionally something my name's now going to be
attached to.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And the same way Joe doesn't want, you.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Know, to take responsibility for the nome and the leopard
sheet in the background. It's like I don't want I
don't want my name to be especially as a professional
interior designer. I don't want it to be attached to
things that are really really poorly.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Executed, yeah, or just even not your work.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Or not my work exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
So it's hard when there's a lot of different cooks
in the kitchen you got, you got some crazy outcomes.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Would you ever work like that in the outside world?
Like do you have your own company or are you
do you work for a company? Like how does that?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I do?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I have my own company, but you seldom work on
your own in any interior design project or architecture project,
from the contractors to subcontractors, multiple designers, you have specialists
depending on you know, the stones you're using, kitchen in
bath tile. So I'm used to working with a lot
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of different people. I think the biggest thing is a
lot of them who come from that industry, they don't
take it personally. Like we understand if somebody told me,
like I picked a floor and they're like, absolutely not,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It wouldn't let like that.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I wouldn't think about that ever again, because it's just
you just can't be like that in this industry, and
I think for a lot of people who haven't had
that that experiences that I have, like it was a
little bit of a shock to them to hear like no,
or we shouldn't be doing this, or you know, their
ideas not necessarily like celebrated.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
So I'm used to working with a lot of different personalities.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
The difference is I'm not used to it really a
lot of reality TV personalities.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I mean that checks out and it it kind of
goes in line with just like every other reality competition show,
like you always have, you have certain people or players
on there that play the game, you know it as
it's a game. There's other people that go in there
and they take everything you say personally, and that's essentially
what makes a good reality TV show exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And we have I will say, like the cast for
this HGTV show coming up is really such an array
of Bachelor Nation alums from decades and like old, young, new,
you know, professionals, novice. There's a really it's a good
(27:31):
hodgepodge of people, and I think that also makes for
really interesting design and even better TV.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, we're looking forward to it, so, yeah, we're excited
to watch and yeah, I think I think that's it. Alicia,
thank you so much for taking the time. It was
a pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Of course. Thank you guys so much for having me back.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Of course, And to all our listeners, thank you guys
for tuning in the better Happy Hour. Make sure you
download and subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
We'll have new incents, new every school.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Thanks for listening. Bye mm hmm
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Better Happy Hour. I'm Jeous.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Thanks for Rea.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We are here today with Alicia. Alicia, welcome back to
Better Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Hey guys, thanks for having back.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
You were just saying you believe that dogs want gifts.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I do.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I think animals are much presence. Yeah, Christmas or Honka,
whatever you celebrate. But yeah, he basically told me that
dogs they get the idea of like gift giving, so
it's very important you put a Christmas tree, a present
under the Christmas tree from them, so like on Christmas
Day or whenever you're opening your gifts, they're part of
(00:39):
the ceremony. And yeah, my dog's getting a little bit
too excited and starting to open some Christmas presents early.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
It's so interesting though that they see wrapped boxes and
they're like, I want to know what's inside.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I know.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I mean he was going for something that was like
a scented candle if I pell, so maybe he's going
off like the smell, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
We've put a gift under the tree that's like to
mommy from Bagel.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Yeah, or from Bagel to like my sister or my
mom or whoever. I'll get presents for other people from Bagel.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
My mom does that for our.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Dog, for Winston.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
That's adorable.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Get Winston gifts more often.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I know, I know it should bring We should bring
him a gift.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Yeah, he's a good boy, Bagel confirms Winston would like
more gifts.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, we're I think I know this, but you're you're
in Florida right.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm in LA right now, but my mom's in Florida,
and I usually do spend the holidays back home in Florida,
but this will be one of the first years that
I'm spending it out in LA with my sister, and
my Mom's gonna fly out and do a little Christmas
here together, just the three of us.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Are you living in LA? Are you just there visiting
your sister.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yeah, I've been in LA for probably the last six
months permanently. Okay, so I've been living and working out
here and in between you know, shows, I can go
to ordered to visit, but I really primarily spent most
of my time on the West Coast since actually most
of all of twenty twenty five. Now.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Can't believe you love it.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
You know, It's like kind of a homecoming for me
because I always wanted to live in LA never had visited,
and then after college I applied to some jobs out
here and landed like my first job in LA. Thought
it was gonna be my dream job. Had a week,
moved out how to live with some random roommates online,
and I just fell in love. And I worked out
(02:30):
here for a couple of years up until the pandemic
hit and then my lease was up, and so naturally
I was like, Okay, I'll go quarantine in Florida with
my family for a couple months, and you know the
story goes. It was a lot longer than that, so
it took me some time to get back to the
West Coast. But I do feel like almost like I'm
back home.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
In a way.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, do you think you could are use somebody? Could
you ever live in cold weather?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I mean I have.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I did do New York for a couple of years
and that was brutal, And then being born in England, like,
it's very.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Very chilly there most of the year, especially in the north.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
But I would prefer not to if I have my choice,
I would absolutely prefer Like, Oh, I think a week
of snow is great, build a snowman, go skiing, do
all the like activities and then yeah, I would love
to come back to like a beach and be in
a bikini on Christmas Day.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That's so fine with me.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, yeah, Joe always says, and I do agree, Like
leaving Christmas Day or the day after Christmas to go
somewhere warm when you are living somewhere cold is a
good feeling.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
It is, but I guess it's also like the grass
is always greener, right, because like then in return, when
you're in Florida, I have so many family members and
friends that complain like it's so weird that we don't
have snow, and like we'd love to have a cold
Christmas Day.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
And it's like you want what you can't have.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yes, I do like a chili holiday season, like I
like snow.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I just want to leave. I just want to leave
Christmas night. I want to leave Christmas night and then
come back in April.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, and starting the new year doesn't need to be
dark and rainy and cold for like the next couple months.
I think the day after Christmas like we should wrap
up with all the cold.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Well it is, I'm like, yeah, and like this is
a nice time of year. In New York, but like still,
it's like I was walking home yesterday and it was
four fifteen, and I'm like, it's it's dark out, Like
it's fucking dark out already, and I'm just like, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That's another thing is like seasonal depression is so real,
and I think when I don't get as much sunset sunshine.
Maybe it's because I grew up like a lot in
Florida where we had that, But something about not getting
the sun is like, we'll put me in a funk.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, yeah, I know, I agree. I need I need
more sun myself. I'm very pale right now.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah next to Serena, you're always going to be pale.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
I hate just got that good tan.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
You're never gonna catch up on this mellon in. But
last time we chatted with you, you had just enjoyed
a lot of sun on batt Or in Paradise and
we caught up with you kind of mid season. You
couldn't say everything, but we had an awesome chat.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
That's great.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Let's just touch base quickly on like everything unfolded. You
kind of had it out with Cat and we recently
have seen posts that have confirmed Kat and Dale have
likely broken up. Were you aware of this? What have
you heard? Are you still interested in Dale? Where are
we at with all of this like love triangle esque situation?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's so funny, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I don't keep up with like what Cat and Dale
have been doing post the show, so I don't know
about their current relationship status.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I'm not surprised if they have split up, but.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I think that's just you know, I'm a I'm a
pretty big believer that in time, the truth comes out,
everything comes out, so but you know, I'm not one
to like champion any breakups, so I wish them both
the best if they did decide to go their separate ways.
I don't have an interest in Dale anymore, you know.
(06:07):
I think it was one thing on the beach in Paradise.
Had we had the opportunity to it is something I
would have explored. But I think after the entire season,
and especially with him and the Cat drama, I just
don't think that that the same guy who is going
to date Cat is going to be interested in having
a serious relationship with me. So, for all intents and purposes,
(06:31):
I date because I want a husband, I want to
have kids, I want to start a family, and I'm
really looking for somebody who is qualified and like also
wants that in return. So yeah, I would say I
don't look back moving forward. But that's not surprising to hear.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Are you dating anyone now? Are you currently dating at least?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
No? No, God, no, No, I wish I was.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
I'm just like I said, like I'm I wouldn't say
I'm picky. I'm just I don't want to date just
to date, Like my time is valuable. I would rather
spend my Friday nights on the sofa with my little
sister or my friends or bagel. Then you know, going
on a first date if it's never going to go somewhere.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
And I think a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Of people date at this age just because it's fun.
Like I have a lot of friends who love to
go out on the first date, and they like, they
love to have that, like you know, the first match.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I don't. I don't like that, like I don't like
getting to know you take yeh.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
But but how do you know if it's not going
to go somewhere, if you don't go on the date.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And that is the prediction, that's the predicament I'm in
because part of me, I'm like, my husband's not going
to be at a sports bar at two in the
morning on a Thursday, so like, why would I go up? Well,
I don't care if I'm going to meet someone there
that's not my future husband. But then my sister does
argue with me. She's like, you got to put yourself
out there to some degree if you want to meet someone.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
So I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I mean, I'm open to it. I just really haven't
had any matches that have interested me whatsoever. And I
think maybe I'm a little jaded from Paradise experience, you know,
getting to know someone and thinking that there's someone very
different than.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Who they ended up being.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That was a little bit of a setback for me
in terms of dating. So I don't know if it's
the walls or if it's.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Timing or I don't know, but no, I'm what about Hinge.
I am blocked off Hinge. I got banned off Hinge.
Can't tell you why. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I think just because I didn't go out on dates
with some of the people I matched with, somebody must
have reported me. And I emailed Hine and I was like,
who reported me? And they're like, we can't. We can't
say that, so I don't know. I think it was
just like somebody would hurt feelings. And then I was like,
I'm not going to beg to be back on Hinge.
If I got banned from Hinge, I think that's a
sign that, like God's saying, your husband's also not on there.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So I'm on Riah.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
And yeah, I mean I go out occasionally, but it's tough.
All the good ones are like either married at this
age or I don't know, not serious enough.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean it is the dating
dating world is the wild wild West. But but if
you don't put yourself out there, then it's gonna be hard.
It's gonna be hard.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I know I do put myself out there. I'm one
who like sides in the DMS. I will like ask
the guy out first if I'm interested.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And honestly, I've seen some.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Of the guys who I think might be on Taylor
Frankie Paul's season, and if I'm right about any of
those guys, then maybe that will open a whole different
world of possibilities.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It looks like it's a very good cast.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It does, and like the older they are okay with
having kids, obviously, and I feel like she's going for
like a real man, like a cowboy man, and I
like that. I haven't had I haven't dated one of
those before, so maybe that's maybe that's in my future.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Would you stante with Sean.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I don't speak to Sean.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Oh okay, we're not as speaking terms anymore.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
No, not because of anything like happened that we're not
on speaking terms.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We just don't have a relationship.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I thought that Sean and I had created a relationship
off of what was a friendship first and or foundation,
and that was kind of broken and he did a
lot of things behind my back that I was unbeknownst
to me that really shocked me. And to be honest,
moving forward, like if I don't want a boyfriend like that,
I don't want any friends like that either. So there's
(10:37):
no like bad blood between us. I think we are
just very different people looking for different things in friendships
and in relationships. So no, we don't have much like
crossover things to talk about. He wished me a happy birthday,
and every now and then, you know, he'll respond to
a story here and there, But I'm not that interested
in keeping that relationship open or moving forward.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
I mean, that's honestly pretty pretty common from the show,
just like people like they get close in Paradise and
then like it just like life happens, right, Like you
live in different places. You realize you you don't connect
as well as you did in the scenario you were
put in, and it's just like okay, yeah, like no
bad blood, but we're just not We're just not Yeah,
(11:23):
we're just not really close.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I think there's also.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It feels like there's almost like a double layer of
relationships in Bachelor Nation as well, which I really felt
like after Bachelor in Paradise because you get to know
these real people and these people who are you know,
your your castmates, what are on your co stars on
the Bachelor, or the other girls who are dating the
(11:48):
same guy as you, like, you get to know them.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
They're real people, they're real relationships.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
And then almost after the show there is like a
social media or online relationships between people, and I felt like,
I don't know, I think there's a lot of people
who go on the show who come off the show
and are kind of still living in this like online
reality or like care about the stuff that's being said online,
(12:13):
and it's like you know me, I would prefer to
be like, have a real relationship with someone. I guess
it is the best way of saying I don't know
how to articulate that in a better way, but yeah,
I think there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Of people go on the Batcheler who are really concerned with.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Their image host airing regardless of what their actual personal
relationships are. And to me that I don't really love that.
So I think Sean kind of fell into that category.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
If you could go on any of the other dating
reality shows, is there anything you would be interested in doing?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Oh god, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
I think anything that would have a real shot at
like leading to a relationship I would really be open to.
I would really be open to another around at Paradise
if we get another one.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I was going to ask that because if like I
need a redemption art, if there's some of Taylor, Frankie
Paul's guys that you are interested in, that would be
that would be the perfect match.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And I feel like they threw you down kind of
as like a poster a wild card, like mid season,
Like you came in so late, you're the last person.
It would be fun to see you down there first.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, Like I was so excited for Paradise because I
was really excited to like date people and get to
know people. Like what we just said, I don't go
out a lot, so like for me, it's very rare
to be in an environment where you're just solely focusing
on that, and I'm being very intentional about that. So
I was really excited to have that opportunity and really
thought like I would meet a couple of people that
might be a match that you.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Know, might turn into something serious.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
And unfortunately, like just the timing of it, I don't
feel like I went to Paradise. I came into two
weeks late, and then as soon as the first rose ceremony,
we got told it's now a game show and you're
competing with the couple who you cruble up with.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
So I don't think I got the dating.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
On a competition show.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
You definitely didn't do our Paradise that we did, Like
it was very different.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, yeah, And I think, you know, I think that
you have better odds almost with a reality show like Paradise,
where there are multiple people all getting to know each
other in what's more of a relaxed environment than like
the one on one bachelor type shows and even just
you know, statistically like you're more likely to find a
match there. So I would be open to doing Paradise again.
(14:38):
That was a lot of fun, and I think I've
learned a lot about myself and how other people can
be on shows like that, So I think I would
go into it with probably like a very different mentality
than previously.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Yeah. Nice.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Okay, Well, speaking of reality shows moving away from dating,
we know that you were just on, well you're going
to be on You've just recently filmed this HGTV Bachelor
Mansion makeover show. What can you tell us about that?
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
That way more exciting than dating shows because one HGTV, Like,
that's so exciting.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I grew up watching it, love it.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I'm an interior designer by profession, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
That is your So that is your job?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yes, yes, So you know, going into it, I was
like so excited because when it comes to my love
life and dating, yeah, I don't really have a clue
how I'm going to be my mister perfect or I'm
very off track in that department. But when it comes
to design and all things home in tier design and renovation,
like that is my sweet spot, so I was really
(15:47):
excited to be tapped for that and asked to come
on the show. I had no idea, you know, what
was in store for us or what it was really
going to entail. But I know the Bachelor Mansion desperately
need did a makeover and a little bit of a facelift,
so I knew we would be doing something to the
really iconic Bachelor Mansion.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
And I think that's all I can say for now.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Is what is your interior design like style? Do you
have like a certain style that you can explain?
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Yeah, I mean I hate that question in a way
because my personal opinion, any good interior design is never
one style. It's a combination of multiple and I think
that's what makes design and interior designers really complex and
meaningful and thoughtful. So I wouldn't just say one specific
(16:38):
design style would be my taste. And I also say
it really just depends on the project and the building.
So for the Bachelor Mansion, for example, beautiful Spanish revival
home and style that would be doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
If I love modern, clean everything, that would be.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Crazy to come in and put that inside a home
with those types of bones. So oftentimes and why Jill
was so useful for the show as well. You do
look at the architecture of the building and the facade
itself to kind of direct you and indicate what style
is going to be mirrored on the inside, and then
from there, I like to pull a lot of different things.
(17:16):
I'm really loving maximalism right now, I'm really loving Bao House,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Really loving brutalism.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I would say those are like three for twoenty twenty
six that I'm exploring more and trends that are on
the forefront.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Of intire size.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
What is brutalism.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Brutalism is a type of interior design style that's kind
of revival now, but it's essentially design based off function.
So things were never meant to be beautiful. They're meant
to be functional and built like a machine, and so
it was a very scientific approach to interior design, and
(17:56):
now people are praising it's kind of like a chemo
ash and style house where it's very minimal, a lot
of stones, a lot of cold concrete textures.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Clean lines, and very natural materials.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
So you see a lot of stones, a lot of woods,
a lot of marbles.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Sounds almost contrasting to maximalism a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
It is, it is, And that's why it's so hard
to pick like one interior design style because I think
the best designs they are a combination of so many.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Do you are you like? Are you anti any colors?
Like if you were to design your own place, is
are you like? Absolutely not? Like there's no orange in
my fucking house.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
No way. I'm all for like every single color, time
and place. There's a right. I mean part of my.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Education and experience in design, I went to get my
master's for interior design and architecture, and so in that
you learned the importance of color theory and more than that,
the psychology behind color and important each color kind of
plays a role in the house and in the space.
And I think that's a big part of my approach
to design, is thinking about how it's going to make
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a person feel when they're in that room, and color
massively plays into that. So there's not one color that's
off for me, But I would say purple is not
my favorite.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I rarely work with purple.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay, how do you feel like your experience withinter your
design helped you in this competition?
Speaker 3 (19:28):
I mean, I was ready for this competition for sure.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
If anything, I wish you're one of the few people
that are on the show that have competition experience too.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
What do you mean like having done the.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Paradise, I mean having done and you really did Paradise
the second half of Paradise, so you.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
A lot of people on the show have only ever
been on reality dating ship.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah, And I felt, like I said, like so much
more comfortable. It's like, Okay, I'm kind of in control
of my own destiny here because I'm good at this.
And you know, I didn't know what the outcome of
going on The Bachelor or Bachelor in Paradise is going
to be.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
You hope that it's an end goal that you get to.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
But with this, I was like I came in, I'm like,
why there's no reason why I won't win this show,
Like I can do this.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
I feel so confident. I know I'm good at this.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I was also just excited to like share my ideas
with such an iconic project like the Bachelor mansion.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
That's huge. You know, It's like I'm pretty sure it's.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
The most filmed home on television or in reality TV
or something.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Surprised. Yeah, it really stuck to it.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, So, I mean it definitely prepared me. It prepared me,
But there's also things that you just cannot be ever
prepared for when it comes to anything related to you know,
Bachelor and of course the HGTV show, there's some like
twists and turns in the plot, so you'll have to
watch to see how it all unfolds. And so yeah,
(20:53):
I was prepared as prepared as I could be going
into it.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
Was there anyone that you were happy to see or
enjoyed like meeting for the first time get along with?
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Okay, I have like a girl crush on Joan. I
love her.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
She does have great style Like she does she always
puts the other like really great outfits. I feel like
any clips they showed of her, like in her home
on her season, it always looked like really well designed exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
She was just such a joy to be around and
like really made my HGTV Bachelor renovation experience so much better.
Like I couldn't imagine doing it without her.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
As someone who has their masters in interior design and
you do it professionally, are you are there? Are there ever?
Like hare like? For like I believe that I am
like I could be a good I could.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Has a secret passion for interior design.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I do.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
I don't know why, Yes I have, Yes I have.
That's elect I designed my I designed my old condo
that I no longer had have, but I designed it myself.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And you know what, that photo has been passed around
to like your cousin, million other people, that postive photo.
Everyone wants their hands on it.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I know, oh true, true. But like so someone like
me who has like little to no experience, right, are
you ever like impressed or surprised or by like seeing
someone that doesn't know what they're doing design an apartment
or a home or are you always like, Okay, this
(22:28):
is is amateur This is amateur work most.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Of the time.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
I would say it does fall into like the amateur category,
just because there is there's a science behind design, and
like there's principles that make a design a good design, balance, harmony, rhythm, repetition,
So there are certain elements that you can categorize and
objectively look at and say is this you know, does
this fall into like a good design? But I will say, also,
(22:56):
you know, some people are naturally born with an eye,
and I think you're probably falling into that category show
where like you've got an eye for design, that doesn't
mean that.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
You can see aren't any well, I didn't do this,
I didn't do this, I didn't do this.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
So yeah, I love that you're like very offended by
like you can't your name's not on the design right now,
like he's not attaching his name to this backdrop. But no,
I would say, there are people that do surprise me
every now and then, And I think you get really fresh,
cool ideas when you are coming from a place of
perhaps less analytical background and more of just a creative
(23:36):
mind that comes up with cool concepts. So it's a
little bit of both, but it's also very it's very
difficult to I think what's very difficult it was difficult
with the show is when you're working with other people
who don't have.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
That background and experience.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
It's you don't want to I never want people to
feel like their ideas aren't heard because creative I think ideas,
everybody's ideas are equally is important. The execution of it
is where I think an interior designer with a professional
background and education in it will perhaps excel on Like
the execution, you know, right between like the idea and execution.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean if we're on the show, if we're on
the show together, you and I, like I might be like, oh,
I think this looks really pretty, But also, what do
you think? I'm not an interior designer, Like why would
we go with my opinion over yours a.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Situation like that?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah, but you know that's also like that's part of
the show and heads definitely, But and that was I
thought the most challenging part because obviously coming from a
background or I'm like, listen, I get paid to do this.
This is like, when the show's done, I'm going back
to doing this no offense for other people. But like
I it was important that my voice was heard. And
(24:51):
that's a really tricky line to like kind of walk,
because people do get their feelings hurt and they do
take it personally.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
That well, why don't you like that color chair that
I picked out?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
And it's not a personal, you know, opinion, it's just
this is professionally something my name's now going to be
attached to.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And the same way Joe doesn't want, you.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Know, to take responsibility for the nome and the leopard
sheet in the background. It's like I don't want I
don't want my name to be especially as a professional
interior designer. I don't want it to be attached to
things that are really really poorly.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Executed, yeah, or just even not your work.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Or not my work exactly.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
So it's hard when there's a lot of different cooks
in the kitchen you got, you got some crazy outcomes.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Would you ever work like that in the outside world?
Like do you have your own company or are you
do you work for a company? Like how does that?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
I do?
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I have my own company, but you seldom work on
your own in any interior design project or architecture project,
from the contractors to subcontractors, multiple designers, you have specialists
depending on you know, the stones you're using, kitchen in
bath tile. So I'm used to working with a lot
(26:02):
of different people. I think the biggest thing is a
lot of them who come from that industry, they don't
take it personally. Like we understand if somebody told me,
like I picked a floor and they're like, absolutely not,
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
It wouldn't let like that.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
I wouldn't think about that ever again, because it's just
you just can't be like that in this industry, and
I think for a lot of people who haven't had
that that experiences that I have, like it was a
little bit of a shock to them to hear like no,
or we shouldn't be doing this, or you know, their
ideas not necessarily like celebrated.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
So I'm used to working with a lot of different personalities.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
The difference is I'm not used to it really a
lot of reality TV personalities.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I mean that checks out and it it kind of
goes in line with just like every other reality competition show,
like you always have, you have certain people or players
on there that play the game, you know it as
it's a game. There's other people that go in there
and they take everything you say personally, and that's essentially
what makes a good reality TV show exactly.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
And we have I will say, like the cast for
this HGTV show coming up is really such an array
of Bachelor Nation alums from decades and like old, young, new,
you know, professionals, novice. There's a really it's a good
(27:31):
hodgepodge of people, and I think that also makes for
really interesting design and even better TV.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, we're looking forward to it, so, yeah, we're excited
to watch and yeah, I think I think that's it. Alicia,
thank you so much for taking the time. It was
a pleasure talking to you.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Of course. Thank you guys so much for having me back.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Of course, And to all our listeners, thank you guys
for tuning in the better Happy Hour. Make sure you
download and subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
We'll have new incents, new every school.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Thanks for listening. Bye mm hmm
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