Andi Dorfman on Finding 'The One'

On this week’s episode of “Bachelor Happy Hour,” it’s a celebration of all things Andi Dorfman!    

Andi shares all the details from Blaine’s perfect beach proposal, where and when they are hoping to tie the knot, and what exactly it was about Blaine that let Andi know he was the one. Plus, she shares her best advice for anyone hoping to run a marathon one day and reveals whether she plans to write another book in the future!  

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back, happy our listeners. It's good to be here
with you all again this week. And of course, Michelle,
I'm always excited to be back with you. Yes, I
that good. It's great to be back with you for
some girl chat. I'm so excited today because we have
the fabulous and newly engaged Andy Dorfan joining us today. Oh.

(00:23):
I'm so excited to bring her back on. It's been
a while since we've had her on the podcast, and
she's absolutely incredible. Like you said, she is newly engaged,
so we can pick her brain and you guys have
something in common. But I'm excited to see that ring.
Oh my gosh from the photos, it looks massive like

(00:43):
her full knuckle is yeah. So well, oh, yes, definitely.
And I'm I'm excited because the last time we actually
had her on, I mean it's been so long, but
she was single. She had just moved to La around
the same time I did, and so she was just
getting her getting in the lay of the land here.
And so it'll be I mean, I feel like we
have so much to catch up with her about, but

(01:04):
it'll be fun to finally see her again and talk
about this whole new chapter of for Life. For those
of you who don't know, Andy Dorfman is a former baucherette.
She's also a two time New York bestselling author, and
now she is going to be the future missus Hart.
She's absolutely incredible. So everyone please have a warm welcome
for Andy Dorfman. Andy, welcome back to Happy Hour. It's

(01:26):
been so long since we've had you here. So how
are you. I'm good. I feel like it was like
during COVID years that I was on Happy Hour. I
think you would just as in to La did wow Wow,
been like almost two years now then it's been so
long and so much has changed. We at that point
we're both single and now oh my god, oh my gosh. Andy,

(01:50):
we were supposed to do a double date for that charity.
I know. I think it was like all COVID stuff,
and the guy was like, it's fine. I just sort
of like donate. I was like, oh gosh, so much exchanged. Okay, wait, Anna,
did you ever picture that you'd be sitting here engaged
back on Bachelor half Hope? So, I mean, I feel

(02:13):
like it's all going accordingly to plans. Actually happened later
than I planned, but it still happened finally, And I
mean before we even get into anything with the engagement,
I have to see that ring because it is massive.
It is so beautiful. It takes up your full knuckles. Really,

(02:36):
it's so big. That's yeah, I do love dimons. I
have no caning that. Do you have to do extra
weights on that are now just to just to be
able to carry that shit around finger cross to get
in the way of things happily. I'm like, yeah, okay,
that'll work. Yeah, just stuck on my shirt again. I
scratched you first world problems, get little wool on it.

(02:59):
I'm like, you know, it's so beautiful, it's so pretty. Well, congratulations,
that's absolutely amazing. I'm so excited for you. I want
to get into it though, because neither of us are single. Now,
I kind of love it for it, I know, I know,
and well, you know we've talked about me getting engaged
way too much here on this podcast, but I will
say one last time, hoping it happened soon. So when

(03:22):
you actually when you got engaged, I think I was
on tour and I was just blinded by your ring
and I was like, oh, miss, look at this. My
friend Andy just got engaged. Imagine the at nothing more
than that, but you know they need it. Yeah, they
need a little kick in the ass sometimes. Um, so
I want to get into it because you I mean,

(03:43):
I didn't even know you were dating anyone until you
guys became Insta official, which was back with what about
a year ago? Well, it was like what did they
say now? The soft launch, softch soft and hard launches.
I think it's still remember so actually my he was
coming for Thanksgiving with my family and I was like, okay,
I should probably like announce this like it was going

(04:05):
well my time, and I remember like calling my mom
was like, Okay, I'm gonna post a picture of him.
She's like, well, can I see it? Firstly? Of course
here She's like I can't even see his face. I
was like, yeah, I know, it's a it's a soft launch, mom,
And then I love that. I think that first posted
his face like maybe like New Year's and then by

(04:26):
March you're engaged. But we've been dating since like August,
so yeah, I think people thought it was I mean,
it's still always like six months, but I think people
thought it when you know, you know that for sure,
I really like believe that I mean, look, I've known
and I've thought I've known and not didn't work out.
But I think now you really know. And honestly, that

(04:47):
amount of time is like a decade in the bachelor world,
so you're totally fine. I think it's also like age,
like the older you are and he's you know, he
just turned thirty six, I'm thirty five. You just know
yourself better, you know what you want. You've been in
relationships to know like what works and what doesn't, and
you can kind of see those red flags. And with

(05:08):
Blake there were just no red flags. And remember, like
month by month, I'm like, all right, when is where
is the shoe gonna draw? I never did, and it
was long enough time for me to know like, Okay,
this is my person, Like this, Oh my gosh. I
feel like we have so much to talk about, so
much in common. We really do. But I really want
to know how you guys met. Well, how we met

(05:30):
in college at a party he playing baseball with one
of my good friends that I grew up with. I
remember I was like fourth of July lake house party.
It was probably like eighteen or nineteen m and my
friend brought like all of his teammates down and I
remember like eyeing Blaine. I was like, all right, he's
really hot, like hook it up yea, And I never

(05:51):
got the set up. I'm assuming that like in hindsight,
Blaine probably had a girlfriend. I didn't even ask um,
but never got set up with him. And then literally
like fifteen years later, last summer, our mutual friends getting
married and Blame like hit me up on DM ask
me if I wanted to go to the wedding, and
I'm like, I've not talked to you in fifteen years
and I don't know who you are. No, not for

(06:12):
rigor not gonna happen. He's like, all right, well I'm
taking out for a drink. I was like, I live
in La now, and so long story show where I
was in Italy for the summer. He was there for
a wedding. He DMS me he's still don't have my
number and was like, hey, I want to take you
out for a drink. What are you doing this weekend?
I was I'm in Italy, obviously I saw in your instagram.
Went stupid. I was like, well, I'm in Pozzy Tano

(06:33):
and he said great, I'll be there tomorrow. Oh my god,
my friend and like she's she's hanging out. He was like,
I guess I'm taking you both out for drinks and
literally like he walked into our hotel like courtyard and
I saw him. I was like, oh damn, he's still hot.
He was like a movie Truly. I'm so invested. I'm

(06:54):
so invested because I was hitting on my friend. So
like the end of the night, I was like, you
know what, you guys like go for a nightcap. I'm
gonna go to see They were like, what are you
talking about? No, you two are connecting. He's like, gosh's
trying to be nice to the friend, you know. Oh,
oh my gosh. It all came full circle. So did
he where is he from? Originally he's from South Carolina,

(07:17):
so he's trying. Okay, he lives in Greenville, which is
just like thirty forty minutes away. Oh my gosh, that's
where one of my good friends lives. Damn. Okay, did
you ever ask him like did he purposely put himself there?
Like did he have intentions of going to that wedding?
Being like okay, like I have my eye on this girl,
like you ever because I don't even think I was

(07:39):
like in Italy at that point, like he was going
to the wedding, but definitely the posy Tano aspect of it,
because the wedding was like in Tuscany. He was going
to Rome, and he was just like, why am I
going to roam for a weekend by myself when I'm like,
go meet this girl and take her for a drink.
So right, he drove three hours, came to Potano. Damn.
I love this his own noteps. I was kind of worried.

(08:02):
I'm like, I hope this guy doesn't think that, like
he's coming to crash with us. But you know, we
like run into friends in Europe all the time. I
feel like if someone's there, especially the New York Connection,
people are always over there. So we've been like hanging
with friends like all summer basically, So it wasn't weird
that he was coming. I was like, great, more than Marrier.
But I was hoping he had his own setup going on,
because I was like, I'm not he's not about to

(08:23):
coach crash at our nice place here. Yeah, oh my gosh,
good for him. I love a man who goes for
what he wants. He said no to the wedding, but
he's like, fuck it, I'm going to meet this girl
in Europe. Yeah. Yeah, I came for him too, like
I was like, I'm good buddy. And then I mean
he was in fuzzy Tano, like Okaya, it is so

(08:46):
romantic there. So I have to ask them after that trip,
did you kind of know did you both feel like
you wanted to continue dating or what? Did it take
a while for you to be like, oh, this could
actually work out and be a thing. Yeah. I remember
like telling my friend the first day we met him,
I was like, he's just like too reserved for me,
too shy for me. And we ended up hanging out

(09:07):
more and he's great. We both like left Italy and
we were back in the States and kept talking, kept
face timing. I remember like getting on the plane and
I was just like, man, I really liked that guy.
Probably never see him again, but that was great, you know.
I had a great time. And then we ended up
like meeting up I think a week or two later,
and that's when I kind of knew it was not
just like the Italian romance summer fling. It was in

(09:30):
the States. And then it was funny because I was like,
all right, I think I need to probably like tie
up some loose ends, like some summer reply right back
to you. And we were both single and like, yeah,
oh no, shame, yeah, I gotta type some loose ends.
He was like, yeah, me too, Aelia. At least you're

(09:52):
both on the same page. I love that you guys
can both be open though, and like nobody took it personally.
I think it was our way of like asking each
other every girl exclusive. I love this between between the
soft launch, like knowing that he was the one how
much time? Oh no, I knew he was the one

(10:14):
with the soft launch, yeah, where you are such a
private person and when it comes to your relationships that
I feel like when you finally we're going to post
with somebody, I was like, he's going to be it,
like I already know, like I see what's going on. Yeah,
like a pretty good amount of guy. Since the show's
been like seven or eight years, and I don't think
I've ever posted any of them, but there was one

(10:37):
on Instagram where you posted somebody's feet. Was that Blaine's no,
He's gonna kill me for asking no no, no, I
remember that, and I literally thought, I think it was
like one of my friends and I'm like, can you
take a photo for me? Everyone freaked. I was like,
oh god, the internet went wild over that photo. It
was on like a story or like a post. I

(10:57):
think it was on a post, and you took it
down right. I was gonna say, I know what I'm
going after this podcast. It was so good because I
think you were in Mexico. I wanted to say you
were so much tropical, and and it was like it
was such a sexy photo of like you on vacation.
It was your back and then his feet, and people

(11:17):
were like trying to find out who this man was
with just his tone nails, and I was like, people
are so invested in other people's relationships, it's wild. Also
why I kept it private was because I'm sure you
guys get this too, Like people make comments about past
relationships when they're trying to like guess who somebody is,

(11:40):
just like I feel awful for the guy. Like even
when I post with Blaine, like people will kind of
make reference to, oh, it looks like so and so
or his demeanor, even people I haven't necessarily dated, but
people within the franchise, and it just kind of like
irks me. I'm like, really, do you think that if
you were a girl and your boyfriend posted of you
that you would want being compared to other girls? And

(12:02):
I don't right that way, but it just it always happens.
So I feel like I kind of was a little
bit hesitant for that reason. That's I get and I
so respect that. That's so smart to have that mindset
to be like, I want to protect my partner who
I'm with now, And because I don't know Blaine's background
or what he does where he works, but I'm sure
this world is probably new and a lot to take. Yeah,

(12:26):
he's like a bro, like he is not a reality
TV watcher. He likes sports, he likes beer, he likes golf,
like he manly man in the sense of this is
not his world. And that I think other thing that
you know, when we've dated people in Batchel Nation, they
get it. But I think that level protection is more
so for the people that are not in this world. Yeah,

(12:48):
it's a lot to take. It's a lot for us
to take an a room after we've been in it,
and so yeah, being somebody who never grew up watching
it or kind of being infiltrated in it. It's oh
my god, I can't even imagine being in that position.
It would be so much. Um, but I want to
get into your engagement and the proposal. Did you have

(13:09):
any idea that it was coming up? Yes? Okay, did
you help? Did you did you know what kind of
bring you on it? Or is that all? We picked
it out together? And he was like so excited he
can't He would like show me photos of the room
that he had picked up. Please don't show me any
photos I want. Yeah, You're like I want to be surprised,
so excited, and then um, he was coming for the

(13:32):
La marathon and our family was coming in and I
think he like literally told me he went to the
safety deposit box, like I knew he had. Because sometimes
men just can't keep secret it right, or they feel
like they are keeping a secret and they're really not.
But if you want to let them, okay. So take
us back to the the day or the night of

(13:55):
the proposal, Like waking up in the morning, You're like,
I'm like, what day? I actually thought maybe it would
be the Saturday before the marathon, but Friday, like no
one's answered my calls, which my mom was like, oh,
I'm brunching or playing golf or something. I kind of
believe it. And then you're going down to the beach.
He made like dinner reservations and we always go to

(14:15):
the beach when it's nice for like sunset cocktails, Like
nothing new. I love it there. It's like my happy place.
And Friday, we're driving down to the beach and no
one's answered my calls and I FaceTime my friend Kelly,
who was on the show with me. She's like my
best friend, and her face was like, I'm like, why
are you doing that? He's like, oh, what do you do?
Like what's wrong with you? She's like, what are you doing?

(14:36):
I was like, oh my god. And Blaine was being weird.
We got down to the beach or like sitting there,
he's like being so weird. He's like kind of dressed up.
I'm in like sweatpants, and I see a photographer and
I was like, Okay, this is it. This is the moment.
It's like down to the water. I'm like, okay, babe.
But the know was he was just by the way.

(14:58):
We're not doing dinner. We're just gonna go to the
hotel bel Air and like hang out, have a great many.
I was like, okay, let's drive home and well, I'll
be really quick. I'll just grab some stuff. And I
walked in the door and it was like double locks.
I remember being like, that's weird. Maybe Blae like locked
both locks. And it was dark, and I think I
said to mine, or at least I thought, I was like, oh,
thank god, like no one's here and everyone it was

(15:21):
like whatpening like? So my family had come in early.
His parents came, which is their first play, which is awesome,
and like some of my closest friends, my sister came
with her husband and the kids, and that was a
huge surprise to me and posted a video. I was
like very very emotional for that, and I don't retually cry,

(15:43):
but that was a thing. H oh my god. And
you were still in your stebpants, right because you had
a chance to change, don't you wish now he would
have given you some sort of not an inklean, but
would have been like, oh, like let's stress up a
little bit. No. I think he kind of tried to
and just like this is what I'm wearing. I mean,

(16:03):
you're like jarred. They're like not sweatpants. But I didn't work.
Yeah company right now, wait, are these are the ones? Yeah,
it's probably. It's nice so symbolic, you know what. I'm
glad that he just let me be comfortable, Like I
didn't care. I liked the sweater, I liked the pants.

(16:26):
It was very casual, but like, it's like not me
to dress up like that for something kind of intimate
in that, right. I want to ask you this because
I feel like you and I are pretty similar, and
you know, speaking from experience, we went from the show.
We had a very extract probably the most extravagant way
you could ever get engaged, right, it was in front

(16:46):
of millions of people, with this massive Neil Lane diamond. This, Like,
how did you feel with this proposal knowing that it
was only for your eyes and the photographers and very
intimate just between you two? Like, what did that feel like?
On a much different level? I mean obviously totally different.
Only the second time I've gotten proposed to, so there's

(17:09):
not a ton of comparison, But it was just what
I wanted. Like, as you tells asually, when comes to
the relationships, I'm pretty private. I loved that the photographer
was there, just because I do love the photos that
we had and it kind of encapsulates that moment. But
I'm thirty five, I've been engaged, like you said, in
front of millions and millions of people. It's not the
way I wanted for it to happen a second time.

(17:29):
So it was a special place for us. It was
important for me to like do it in La in
my home, for my coastal right now, but it was
that was really important to me to just do it
in a place that was like my spot. H I
love that, And it was beautiful. Those photos were absolutely beautiful.
And I mean, I just know you and how probably

(17:51):
excited you wore that you did find your man. But
I was so happy when I said, I got chills
all over my body. I was about to walk out
on the stage and sell, especially with your family, like
your friends and family and all of that too. That
had to be pretty cool that you're able to Like
I just I told him like two things, my please
don't propose like right after the marathon, because I've done
the marathon before and it's not gonna be pretty. And

(18:14):
goydn't do it anytime soon, like Mabe, do it while
I'm still thirty four. I was like if so, you know,
I'm so so impressed with you and your running capabilities.
I don't know if I have any desire to run
even a five k, Like no can he can he
keep up with like six for in an athlete like
he is way faster. I asked him to do the marathon.

(18:37):
I was like, yeah, it'd be great. Oh I wish
I could just be like, yeah, let's sign up for
this marathon, no big deal. Are like in good shape
like they do stuff athletically. I'm just like, really, like
you didn't even have to train very hard for that,
Like what you're running in sandals right now? You're not
even in ten and shoes. This is bullshit. He like,
I couldn't do it. Everything on to him, like all

(19:00):
my Gatorades and like any like waters. I had, like
a flexure, you go pack. I love that. I mean
it sounds like you are both so supportive of each other,
and so I'm glad that he can because that it's
such a passion of yours and I'm glad that he
can be alongside you and bring you up and partake
in it and not just be like, ah, you got this,
good luck. It's nice also trained together it was a

(19:21):
good way to spend time together. I mean, when you're
running for hours training, it's just like the two of us,
it's a it's a nice kind of quiet time for
both of us. Just like, yeah, so when you sound nice,
especially when you're like come off the show of you know,
everything's so luxurious and spontaneous, spontaneous and all these different
things to be able to like see your person fit
into your daily life and like spend time. You know,

(19:44):
what is your time look like Monday through Friday? Friday?
You know, I'm interested to know this. So when you
two run together and spend that time, do you have
your air pods in and you're both kind of listening
to music and zen out? Or are you both talkers
and storytellers? How does this fellow he is such a
talker when we run, like I feel like that's his

(20:05):
time to just chat chat chat away. Like he's not
he's chatty, but he's definitely a little more like reserved
and quieter than I am. We start running, he does
not stopped talking. That's actually nice for you though, Like
that though, is it a distraction or are you just
like it depends no, usually connect distraction for sure? A

(20:25):
good distraction. I'm just like, I just need to get
through it and then like we'll do hills and I'll
be just just kind of complaining. I'm like telling up, Oh,
does he does he understand that when he's working out
with you? Though? Like he does he understand that if
he's talking to you that you don't necessarily have to
answer back, Like it's not like a full back doesn't
expect that makes sense? M Yeah, yeah, M not in Yeah.

(20:52):
Do you think you could have been with somebody who
wasn't into running or who wouldn't be willing to tend
zero interest? Yes? I think it's not like a deal breaker,
like it's not what you know, my entire life. But
I think it's nice, like you said back earlier, that
somebody is supportive enough to be like, yeah, I'll do
that because it's something that you want to do. And
I mean, look, he likes fitness. He's in good shape,
so I'm not asking him to do anything like crazy.

(21:15):
You know, it's kind of aligned with he likes being fit,
So that was an easier self for it. But I
didn't even have to sell it actually, Like I think
he just wanted to do it a as a challenged himself.
But be just to do it because I like doing it.
I think that's so something that you like doing just
because they want to make you happy. So for somebody

(21:36):
who Okay, I have a two part question here. So
for you, obviously love to run. Blaine has taken it up.
I'm sure more so because you love it and now
you can spend this quality time together. Thomas is going
to be running his first marathon, So A what advice
would you give to him when he's training for this
first marathon because it's been grueling and his body is

(21:58):
in pain. And be for me as a supportive partner,
what could I be doing? Or you know, like what
do you see that Blaine does that really help support
you in the best ways. Okay, I actually have two
good answers for you for this UM. One, you gotta
tell him he's got to do the recovery, like my
old coaches say, the recoveries in the gates. You have
to like do the Epps and saw. You have to
do the photower, you have to do like the guns

(22:20):
that breaks all of the acid and everything in your body.
You have to do that, even though it's thank you.
And then I think for you. My coach actually did
this for me when I was doing the really long runs.
He would like strap a water belt and ride the bike,
so I had so I feel like you could do that.
Oh shit, I can totally do that. Or I'll get

(22:41):
my little motorized scooter and just scoot scoot around. Oh
hell yeah, oh my god, I'm so glad we had
you on. You could definitely I could see you falling
or following um Thomas, Yeah, for sure. I mean I'll
give him his water and all, how of a margarita
as I'm you know, riding my screater my bike whatever.

(23:05):
Can you get one of those hats that like has
the two cans for the water the straws like on
a bike. Honestly, oh my god, this would be people.
Do they let people when you're actually running the marathon?
Is it only for you runners? Or can I be
a supportive partner and be like, I'm gonna bike and
feed him his water as we're on this path? Is

(23:29):
that not allowed? You run a couple of miles with somebody.
They call it like I think it's called a bandit
Actually funny story because Matt Jeans got busted for that.
The first time for New York. Oh, you can do
it for a few miles, but you're not people have
to qualify and so yeah, you're not trying to like
take the spot away, but you can definitely like help

(23:49):
them out, like run along side for a mile or two.
Oh so, oh I could totally do that. So to
start out, I could just do any one of those numbers,
or can I do it? Well, you won't have the
bit Okay, So I could just do a mile and
then tap out and along the course jump in and
with him. Oh I love this. Okay, I could do that,

(24:10):
but so does Becca have to keep up with him
for the first mile? The real question that will not happen.
I'm just looking out for you when he's slowing down
and hurting then yeah, okay, well okay, because you said
Blade is what six four? And Andy, how tall are you? Like?
My defense is asking um five six? So you're like

(24:34):
my hype basically, So is it hard to keep up
with him or does he slow himself down? To say
it your pace? Oh, he definitely slows himself down. Okay,
twice as long as mine probably. Yeah. Yeah, well that's
what I'm worried about it. Yeah, so maybe I'll tap
in at the very end with Thomas. Okay, wow, once

(24:55):
the blisters are there, the calves are cramped. Wait, what's
this Matt James story? He just ran too far and
got in trouble. No, no no, no no, he was Remember when
Tyler and I did New York Marathon is before COVID,
Matt like jumped in and people were like giving him
so much crap for it because it's like bandit running
like I think he ran like ten miles of him,
but he hadn't qualified. It's like not, oh, it's fair,

(25:20):
blah blah blah. But if you do like damn. Okay.
So for anyone listening, I'm not crashing the marathon with
Thomas one day. I Am just doing a one bandit mile.
You heard it here first, folks. He's it's just it's
the one in San Diego. It's called the Oh my god,
I should know what the name of it is because
he I was post about it the San Diego something marathon.

(25:45):
Look at how sportify. I am. I should know this,
but but it's it's it's the first one. And so
he had been talking about wanting to do a marathon,
and I just thought you know, in a year, he's
list to train because he doesn't really run. He like
to lift and do yoga, but he was never really
an avid runner. And one day he came home and
he's like, I listened to this badass podcast from David Goggins,

(26:08):
and now I just signed up for the marathon. And
I was like, are you sure? Like that's it's always
a podcast or a documentary that gives you realize it's
twenty six miles tenty like, and you are not a runner.
But he's been training a little bit and he loves
it and he is super dedicated, so I know he'll
be great. I mean, he has a much better mindset
when it comes to that than I do. But do

(26:30):
you just hand, like, dude, Andy, do you just have
a ton of like intense blisters by the end of it,
Because everybody that I know, like after the marathon, like
their bodies are in so much pain with like the
blisters in like the cramping and the shins body. Yeah,
like you he's not supposed to run twenty six miles.
I mean challenge no, if you get the right shoes,

(26:52):
like the right sizing, if you hydrate, like you don't
have to worry about the cramps, like there are so
many things to do in order to m Yeah, walking
could walk up my fun. Justine, tell me about the
carving up process, because I feel like that would be
the fun part of eat pasta, cupcakes everything, Like I
heard like double jozy cookies from the mall in Georgia

(27:16):
for us, like just eating them before and after. So yeah,
I think how many days before or like just the
night before, I mean, and you're burning it all off. Anyways,
I don't remember what thought it was. I think it
might have been the one in New York pre covid.
I remember watching you eat your pasta. I think it

(27:37):
was the night or two before, and I was like,
I am so jealous of this woman right now. I
was doing cupcakes and pasta like the whole week in
New York. I was hitting up like Magnolia Bakery Downash
three who used it is? Oh my gosh, you are
so dedicated though, I know will say, like watching you
and your stories be so supportive of all of the
fellow indoor fans, it's so incredible. It like very it

(27:59):
really is inspiring, like I should be better and joining
has their thing Like for me, it was definitely like
some mental kind of therapeutic thing for me, especially when
I was in New York and kind of getting out
of like my shoe box apartment. I think everyone kind
of has that one thing that they're kind of fixated
on for whatever reason, whether it's like getting with your

(28:21):
bad day or you know, if it's a glass of wine,
or it's going for a run or yoga. A lot
of people, so I think for me, it's just like
that's just my thing that I've done. And didn't you say,
did you start it because you were traveling so much
that it was just a good way to get out
and see wherever new places you were. Yeah, I mean
it was a good way to exercise. Like first of all,
you know when you travel, like especially show you're everywhere

(28:44):
and you're like, I don't want to go to the
hotel gym or you know, I don't want to I
don't can't find a gym. So for me, it was
just getting out running like different cities. And it is
true you see stuff so differently on foot, Like you
notice then when I run my own neighborhood, I notice
houses or I notice you know, trees are just things
that are like you don't see while you're driving a
car or not that you'd pay attention to. Yeah, that's

(29:07):
so very true, and I should never really thought about that. Yeah,
except for them. Sometimes I've gone on runs and I
don't notice because I'm like wheezing, not even having like
want a full month. When I first did the marathon,
I trained that hard, but I was like a walk
roun a little bit walks. That's awesome, though. Oh man,
I'm probably gonna have you up on speed dial before

(29:29):
his marathon just so I can get pick your brain
more and get your advice, because it's it's gonna be neat. No,
I feel like I'm being inspired to run a marathon.
I'm like thinking about it, and I'm not sure if
it was if it's Andy, or if it's like the
car bloating cupcakes and pass a ten k. We should
do like a boucher at ten k. I feel like

(29:50):
we could do that. That would be how many of
us are there now? Like eight? Oh well there's more
than eighteen, right, no eighteen? No team technically they will
be soon with Rachel and Gabby. Do you like our
virtual marathon and we could do we actually one mile

(30:12):
and then it taps on to the next person and
then to make up the last miles. Andy can do
a couple, you know, I'll try to do two or three.
I'll take one for the team. But we could do
it for a share money. Wait, let's do that. I
actually really like that kind of like Andy, you remember
when we did a couple of years ago. It was
during COVID we did the like Past the Rose Challenge.

(30:35):
It could be like that, except running a mile. You
could do wherever you want, like Submary. Yeah, I love that.
That would actually be fun too, to show the different
cities that everyone's in across the country. Wait, will you
guys really do it? I'm so down. No, I Ndercent
would do it. And I'm already like thinking about like
the video footage to just like showing like running and

(30:56):
like house. Yeah, all the different scenery, all the different areas. Okay,
let's actually talk about this and put a plan in place,
because I would be so down, especially if it's going
for a good cause. I mean, sign me up all
the time. I would love that. I must just make
an to get on there and see. Yeah. Yeah, okay,
So speaking of Boucherette's, I mean, obviously we all have

(31:18):
that in common going back. I mean, sometimes I hate
to do this, so I hate to ask you this,
but like going back to your time on the show.
You know, it worked out for some of us, it
worked out, it didn't work out for some of us.
So I totally understand probably your mindset. But do you
have any favorite memories that stand out when you were Bachelorette? Oh,
I mean the travel, Like we went to incredible places

(31:41):
both bachelor and Bachelorette my seasons. That was like, I
feel like I was kind of the height of the traveling.
The travel was amazing. I had a great experience. Like
even though it didn't work out, you know, picked the
wrong guy clearly or the wrong relationship, at least I
thought it was great. Like I had a blast. I
thought it was life changing for me. I feel like

(32:02):
we can all probably attest to that, where it's like
it just it changed my life. I put it in
a totally different trajectory. And yeah, there was some stuff
that we had to deal with, you know, whether it's
just people talking or you know, the emotional effects of
like being away from all of your friends and family
and doing this kind of alone. But all said and done,
like I just I thought I was incredible. It changed

(32:22):
my life. It's like a huge defining point in my life.
And yeah, I have like zero regrets on it. I
think the traveling was great falling in love honestly, Like again,
even though it didn't work out, I fell in love
like that's always fun. Yeah, I would hope that everyone
coming from the show has that mindset, like even if

(32:43):
it didn't work out, that you still make so many friends,
you know, when you're living with the contestants, and you
have really some of the most incredible memories, and that's
what all always take with me. And so I'm glad
that you still look back fondly. And I like that
you say you would have no regrets. Yeah, regardless of
how things ended in the long run or not, that's
go For a breakup, you might as well have done

(33:04):
it while traveling the world and meeting people. And you know,
dying you made you a very good point. Go bigger go.
Do you have a favorite dress or outfit that you
just like, absolutely loved, Like when you think about your
fashion sense and everything back to when you were the bachelorette,

(33:27):
what does that outfit or that A few really great ones?
I remember there was one that I loved. It's kind
of a funny story because Carrie Fetman, obviously the stylist,
m hold this dress and he was like, look, you
cannot spill on this dress, like carry, I never swell.
You looks at me like, yes, you cannot dress. I
was like, okay, fine, He's like I'm serious, Andy. He's

(33:49):
like Selena Gomez, it's shipping to her. She has to
wear it next. You can't spill on it. And then
of course like us Weekly did it, like who were
it better? The same dress was one of my favorites
that before she wore way better. But it was that
was fun for me. It was like to wear something
and then see you know what was the dress? It
was like a black deep plunge and it had a

(34:11):
bunch of like diamond encrusted almost looked like dots, but
it was like spread out diamonds. Ooh, was it a
Randy rum do you know? Don't think so? For you?
That wasn't okay. Oh my gosh. I want to go
back and look through old photos to see what was
I want to scroll through it. That is crazy. Do

(34:34):
you think after going through that entire process, both as
a contestant and then as the lead on the show
that it ultimately changed your approach to dating or how
you would want to find a partner or find love. Um, yes, no,
I mean I think it's kind of hard when you're
dating so many people at one time to like really

(34:56):
like figure out some kind of like life changing things
to take away for each of those relationships, you know
what I mean, Like, Okay, the guy that you know
was made it till the fifth round or whatever. There's
not like there was that deep of a relationship to
take that much away. I think I did learn like
everybody is kind of a person and has a life,

(35:16):
and they're spending time and kind of respecting that time.
And I remember on The Bachelor, a lot of us
didn't really feel that like our time was kind of
being valued and that we weren't being looked at as
like actual human beings that had given up their jobs
and you know, family and friends here. So I think
it did make me kind of like humanize guys, even

(35:37):
though it was like speed dating. I was like, Okay,
each one of these guys has an actual life too,
and there's something to each of them, even if it's
like there's still a human being on this earth that
you can converse with and like, you know, be kind
to and show attention to. Yeah, are you still close
with any of the guys on your season? Say in
touch with them? Chrystols? Yeah? Always. Um Chris Harrison, I

(36:01):
guess he was on my season. Always. Um, I see
like Nick file in La every once in a while,
I'd work cool. Oh my god, I keep forgetting he
was on your season. No, it's so funny. Actually, out
of dinner last night and Christina Schuman was there and
I was like, well, you want Christ's season or bench?
She was like, I was on NIX. I was like,
that's so Chris. Wait, that was like the first time

(36:22):
he stepped into this world was on your season, right, Yeah,
he is my neighbor, he lives. I am looking at
my window and I could probably see his house if
I go to the other end of my window. Okay. Wait.
So with okay, having Andy, you gone going through this
whole bachelor world and everything like that, and then bringing
somebody into it, even like as you're just starting to date.

(36:44):
Who were like some of the first people that you introduced. Well,
obviously my friend Kelly U. She had like FaceTime with
him and everything. He came blanking to LA and we
went to a Luke Bryan concert and actually Christina Schuman
came with us, and I like, I randomly kind of
see her and like we'll hang out for like concerts

(37:04):
and stuff. But she was like the first person I
feel like in Bachel Nation that met him. And then
super Bowl happened and you guys were there, Like then
it was like the floodgates opened and he met pretty
much everybody from Bachel Nation that lived in La or
was at the super Bowl. M Oh, that had to
be How did he handle all of that? Was it
too much to take in at first? Or was he

(37:26):
is he? I mean it seems like he's pretty go
with the flow, yeah, but how did he take that
all in? Honestly? I think it was like more like
exciting for him to like tell his friends like who
he saw and like how cool is this? Like he
doesn't really care about not that he doesn't care abou
Vachel Nation. He does. I don't want to trolling him,
but he's not in it. He doesn't. He's not like

(37:47):
phased by things, be like, um, the guys from selling
Sunset and he was like oh I've seen that shell,
you know. Oh, okay, love that? Has he did he
ever go back and watch any of your season? Or is?
Does he have no interest? He has any interest? And
I don't have any interest in him watching. That would

(38:09):
be so weird. That would be so weird, like you
started watching like your current guy's like past you know.
Oh no, don't get me wrong, But if I have
the option for him not to watch it, I'm good
with that. Listen. I hadn't watched Thomas on like three
episodes of Paradise before I got down there, and that
was enough. I would never want to go back and
watch a full season of whoever I'm dating on TV?

(38:32):
Yeah yeah, okay, So you're and you're close with me
in the sand right? Yeah? Okay for sure? Yeah? Because
and she, I mean, obviously you got engaged more recently,
but she also just got engaged. So have you guys
been able to kind of talk about any wedding plans
or bounce ideas off of much because her fiance is

(38:55):
actually someone that she set me up on a blind
date with in New York? Really shut up? Wait you okay?
So lovely like it? He was so nice. We didn't
have the chemistry. It was just like a friend thing,
but he was awesome. And then like literally a three
years actually had it been the way before COVID, like

(39:16):
probably three years four years later. Man is like, you
remember going to guess where I'm dating? And I was like,
Michael Fogel, how did you know? I said, I just
had a feeling like I always trying of like to you,
always trying to set him up with somebody. And it's
stunny because I went to brunch with her. Blaine and
I were down in Newport and I'm sitting there talking
and we like order the food and we sit down

(39:37):
and I hadn't seen her since she got engaged. I
was just talking and she's like, what is on your hand?
And I hadn't announced it yet, and I was like
surprise talking to Andy. There's no missing that ring. I
don't know. I don't know how you expected to get away.
I was just like standing there like this, Yeah, no,

(39:59):
there's no getting around that baby. If it was if
it was smallart maybe, but yours maybe. But it's like
you know, like blind people everything. Oh you waited that long?
I think it was like one or two weeks because
we got engaged for the marathon, and I just wanted
to like deal with the marathon, and to be honest,
it's funny that people say this that they just wanted

(40:20):
time to kind of enjoy it. I didn't enjoy the
attention and like everyone being sweet. It was just once
that like got announced, everybody was texting and called congratulations,
and Lynn and I both were like just on the
phone with our friends and family. So it gave it
a week or two to just enjoy it. And yeah,
the family knew together, but I guess the world didn't.

(40:43):
And that was a whole other level of what a
lot to take it, especially if you're trying to train
and focus on the marathon. I totally understand why you
would have wanted to hold off on the big news,
because it's a lot. I just like didn't know what
people were going to say. I didn't know if you
were to finally or like I had been out of
kind of that like happy celebration romance type of announcement

(41:06):
for so long, but it being really good. I was
like very very overwhelmed, like even emotional about how sweet
everybody was and just like how happy everybody was for me.
I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, yeah, it seems like you
have so much support behind you, behind you both, which
is very very special. So and if anyone had any
hate to say, there's the age old adage, fuck them.

(41:28):
You know who cares? Do you have? You guys talked
about if you're gonna do like a longer engagement, if
you're like, are you like, let's yeah, I definitely want
to get married in Italy like obviously very special to us.
I love it you like we kindled or really basically

(41:49):
met there. I was trying to maybe do October, but
I don't think that's gonna like this October that's coming up. Yes,
let's go you know what time. I don't know, and
don't quote me on this. I don't know if it's
fully true, but I was just talking to some of

(42:09):
our friends on it in San Diego who just actually
got engaged I think in February or March two, and
they are planning the wedding in April in Italy next year.
But they said that everything there, it's so much more affordable,
it's easier to plan weddings like outside of the States.
And because I was actually shockedun I was like, I

(42:30):
thought it would have been the opposite of how much
how expensive everything was, and to rent at the venues
just how crazy spending it would be. But they looked
at several different venues and they could get them in
right away. There was really no hold up of like
when they could rent out the space and like how
much it would be. So honestly, I feel like, I mean,
if that's true, which I don't know if it fully is,
but if it is, you could do it. You can

(42:52):
pull it up at a bunch of venues. Thinking like,
there's no way October. October's kind of the last month
of the year in Italy to get married. The weather
starts getting cold, obviously, like there's no way with all
the backup from COVID from twenty twenty that got pushed
twenty twenty one, and sure enough, there are some things
And I kind of like, now I regret saying that,
because it's like, all right, let's do it then, um,
but I think we'll probably wait till the spring. I

(43:14):
just part of me is like wants to actually enjoy it,
you know. I know that sounds crazy as everyone who
just goes wild and it's stressful, but I'm going to
be sad, like when it's over a little bit. Yeah,
and I think I think if we had gotten engaged,
like let's say, you know, January, ten months is a
lot different than we're just now starting to plan it's

(43:35):
five months. It's a lot. I mean, I can't I've
never planned a wedding, so I can't speak from experience,
but just seeing friends and family do it, it's a
lot to think about. So whenever you are ready to
plan and do it, you will. It will all work
out and happens it as it should so and we're
here to support you a long way. Andy, I feel bad.

(43:56):
I haven't even started planning anything. But do you have
a vision of what you would want, like what you
would want your dress to look like, what you would
want food or cake or anything like that. I the
good thing about Italy is it is a lot easier.
Like I literally just want everybody to be taken care of.
I want everyone to be fed well, good wine, good pasta.

(44:17):
I mean with the dress I started looking at so funny,
my mom like sent me an entire word document of
forty five fifty dresses. I'm like, when Blaine asked for
my blessing, I was like Oh my god, you're um.
But there's so many dress options. Like I, I'm already
overwhelmed with it. I feel like I'm just not there

(44:38):
or just like me. Okay, yeah, that's how I feel like.
That's how i'm too. So you're not one of those
people who just, you know, like plans out there wedding
on Pinterest and they were fifteen like you. No, I'm
not like you. I have no visions for any wedding. Besides,

(44:59):
I want a lot of like burritos there in a
champagne tower. And that's it. Well, we've I think we've
talked about every burrito like a burrito on every episode
since I stually happen again, I will never look at
it the same after you and Nate m so andy.
I want to know this because you are a New

(45:22):
York Times bestseller and I love your books. I had
such a blast reading them because I could kind of
go back and put myself in your shoes or like
in that mindset. And you know, we all kind of
know more secrets behind the scenes, so we kind of
know how things work. But do you have any plans
to do another I'm going to do a third. I
think i'd already started. It was kind of during COVID

(45:44):
that I had started writing Great Time to Star writing hobnously. Honestly,
I was kind of waiting for an ending. I didn't
know it was going to be this, But I think
this is probably a good ending and probably said way
into some other kind of writing I want to do,
Like I want to do some fiction. I want to
do something wild. So yeah, last kind of single, no more. Yeah, Okay,

(46:07):
I need to check these out because I think I
do believe you reached out to me on Instagram. I'm
like the worst like getting back to people. Well, I've
been teaching this year, so I keep telling everybody don't
take a personnel but that might have to be like
one of my first reads this summer. Please send it
way Yeah, okay, Okay, that's it. I'm yes, I'm gonna

(46:27):
move it to the top of the list. Okay, send me,
send me both copies. Show you guys will pick on,
pick up on even were you super stressed out from
just you go through this experience, right, and then that
whole experiences just like showcase the entire world for like
their opinions and all those different things. Do you feel

(46:48):
like it was less stressful then to go and write
a book because you're still sharing your experiences, You're still
sharing your thoughts, right, You're still putting that story out
there for opinions. Did you feel like really that like
same type of anxiety because your life is still you
know what I mean, being put on a platform. Yeah.
Actually I remember feeling a lot of anxiety about it
because you know, sure it's your story, so there is

(47:11):
kind of this feeling of like this is me. At
least people can hear it directly from me, but people
still will like pick things apart. Like I remember I
think something like someone's apartment and it was like actually
in a joking way, and people will still be like, oh,
she's like a gold digger, or someone's apartment is too small.
Like you know, you say things and suggest and they
will take just one sentence out of that entire and

(47:33):
it's your words, so you kind of have to eat
them and just own it. But I think it does.
I think it's just a good outlet. You're just like,
you know what, this is all of me. You're gonna
judge me anyways, at least judge it kind of from
my own words, right, Yeah, And it's kind of nice
because you can take however long you need to to
make sure that your full story is like, yeah, I'm sure,

(47:55):
it's like it's like your baby like that. I feel
like writing your own book like that would be more
I think intimate and intense when it's finally released, and
it was like when your show airs, because you don't
know what's going to happen when the season's airing, you
don't know what's going to be edited and like picked
to be shown to the world. So I feel like
when you're actually hands deep in control of that, that

(48:17):
would be I think much more of a scary thing. Yeah,
it's like a blessing and a curse because you get
to have that outlet and say it all. But then
you're like, oh, gosh, now I have nothing to hide
behind you. Oh that wasn't It's all there, Love me
or hate me, take what you want. But it's hard,
like for all of us that everyone essescially like in

(48:38):
social media and stuff like that, that vulnerability can be
really really hard. H totally definitely so okay. Aside from
your future book and this engagement and upcoming wedding plans,
what's next for you? Anything else? You want to share. Well,
I'm moving to South Carolina. You are, you're leaving up

(49:02):
in La. She was just gonna slide that in their
casually nice And we're a building there, which is going
to be great, Like it's exactly what we want. I'll
still be in La a lot, but you know, it's
a big it's a big move. I'm a little m h.

(49:23):
We're in South Carolina? Will you guys be building? Are
you able to say? Okay? All great town? But you know,
I know Blaine and like his friends there, so it's
kind of that starting over. Um, yeah, it'll be bitter sleet.
I'm like happy to do it with him, and you
know for him, like his career is really base there. Um,
but I'll miss it here. I'll come out here a

(49:44):
lot though. So when will you actually move? M this summer? Okay,
well before you leave, we have to get together. We
will do another girl's night for sure, Michelle, you're coming out.
That's exciting. I had one more question, oh before we
get into our this last question that I want to ask.
So first, do you still keep up with watching the shows?

(50:05):
Are you kind of have you removed yourself and you're
not that involved anymore. I'm just not that involved anymore.
I feel like you could probably attest this too. It
kind of goes in like different ways, Like I don't
know anyone on it. I don't know anyone that knows
anybody on it. I don't even know any of the
producers really anymore. So it just seems like it's kind
of a different it's a different time for me, a shift. Yeah. Yeah,

(50:29):
and especially when you go through it specifically yourself, you know,
you go through all those experiences and if you have
less connections with the people who are then going through
you know what I mean. And you could watch it
if you want to yourself, like yelling at the TV
or just like knowing kind of like, oh, this is
the music, this is the limo. You know so much? Right, Yeah,

(50:52):
it's so different once you know. I know you don't
watch it. But I'm sure you've heard the news that
we have dual bad threats this season with Rachel and Gabby.
So do you have any advice? I mean, I think
they're still filming if I'm if my math adds up,
but they will be coming back very very soon, So
do you have any advice for them as they prepare

(51:13):
for their season to finally be aired, tell your your
partner and your family everything before because because yes, that's
a good one. I would say, I mean, as much
as you can, you've got to like kind of stay
off the internet. Definitely stay out the forums. I remember

(51:34):
when I did it, the forums were the worst, Like
people were so so critical and it dampered a little
bit of like that post show kind of glory cone
that I was in. So I would say, just just
as best as you can, like stay away from Hey.
Just know people are going to come out at you,

(51:54):
whether it's because they're jealous or because they just don't
like you, whatever, that's their problem, not yours. So just
try and enjoy it, try and to see all the
fun things that you're getting to do. You're going to
be exhausted, but it's worth it. It's fun. Like you'll
look back in five ten years like I am and
just think that was a really cool thing. Solid advice,

(52:15):
that's what we're trying to tell Clayton. The most recent
boucher was don't read all the comments, like stay away
off first one. By the way, people love to hate
and that's the thing. It's like, it's not even yeah,
I don't. I mean, I step trust for the engagement.
They're like, oh, nightmare proposal, nightmare engagement ringing, and I
was like, people say this about other people, it was

(52:36):
about me. I was like, okay, things like yeah, I
don't know why. I don't know if it like makes
them feel better for five and a half seconds. It's
it's bizarre, but but that is solid advice. I can't
wait to hear how how they are coming from the season.
But I will make sure if they don't listen to this,
to share that with them because I fight over them,
like how many guys are gonna go for the same girl? Oh,

(52:58):
it'll be so I can't wait to add them to
the group chat. I always love the moment when we
can add the newbie to the group chat. I think
it's probably so freaking overwhelming and I'm not the new anymore.
I'm no longer you just like, oh my gosh um.

(53:20):
I honestly think I felt more like I felt bad
that I wasn't able to respond more and interact more
because I was still working full time as a teacher
when all that was unfolding, And so I think that
that was the hardest part. Is I didn't even I
was just overwhelmed in life as general in general, so
I just yeah, but it was really nice to know

(53:41):
that all of these women have been through a similar situation,
because there's a lot of different areas where you can
feel like very alone when all this is taking place.
You know, just when your life starts to change, as
it does, it's hard because it's you know, not a
lot of people experience that. It was helpful. Yeah, for surely. Um, okay, Michelle,

(54:04):
do you want to explain it, Michelle? Yes, Okay. So
we play a game all the time, Beck and I
love love, love love games, and so we are going
to play a game called this or that, and it's
going to be a wedding planning addition. So I hope
you're ready. Um, We're going to give you two options
related to planning a wedding and you'll respond with your preference.

(54:25):
So it's like a rapid fire ready for the first one,
band or DJ. I love that. I feel like Andy,
you and I were both aries. We were born on
the same day. We're very similar. I'm so I'm excited
to see what we get to say for these other ones. Okay,
big party or intimate gathering, intimate gathering. Okay, you kind

(54:45):
of answered this one already. Destination wedding or stay local
destination and then I want to do something with our
family local Yeah, oh, write your own vows or go
with the classics first look before the ceremony or at
the aisle. At the aisle, that's like Blade's number one wish.

(55:06):
It's like really okay, he wants to stand there and
like probably cry and watch her. Yeah. Yeah, it's such
a special moment. It's like there's very few times in
life where you can have that like take your breath
away a moment and and nephew walked down after me
and his nephews because I want oh yeah, that would
be very cute, and then they'll probably run to you

(55:28):
guys and have it be extra special. Okay, do you
want just one dress or multiple looks throughout the night.
I would do as many as I could, Like I
change the day anyways, I would literally do as many
as I could. Yeah, she changes every hour. Yes, um,

(55:49):
sit down dinner or a big buffet sit down dinner
family style. Well okay, I feel like you also just
answered this too. But kids at the wedding or leave
all of them at home. Leave them all at home
except our nieces and nephews. Okay, kick him out, kick
him out of the the after party at a certain
time only for adult lives. Right honeymoon right after the

(56:15):
wedding or leave some time in between. Oh either, maybe
it depends on the year, she said. I don't know,
and it's like both, I want both. Give me two
honeymoons to travel. I'll go on honeymoon tomorrow without meeting well,
and if you're in Italy, it's like you can still
stay there for a bit and enjoy just the two
of you afterwards, and then do something somewhere else after then. Actually,

(56:39):
like not not right, maybe a few months after, because
then you kind of get to like double dick, yeah,
and then has something different to look forward to once
the wedding planning dies down and you'll miss that, but
you'll still have this vacation to look forward to. I
feel like you and I are so similar, it's crazy. Okay,
matching bridesmaid stresses or different color. Oh wait what Okay,

(57:00):
matching bridesmaid's dresses or matching color, but different dresses. Welcome.
I was like, you girls are welcome. Everyone that's going
to come. Would it be my brides meet anyways? Like
that's how close I would so, okay, my sister, his brother,
and then I mean all of our friends, Like I

(57:21):
have to pick between everybody. Everyone but my friends. Some
of them are joking around that they're going to show
up in matching dresses. Anyways. I can't wait to see
how it all turns out. That was our last question
for the game. But whatever you decide, whenever you decide,
it is going to be beautiful. It's going to be stunning.
And I'm just so happy for you. I can't wait
to meet Blaine. I really do want to meet him.
He sounds like an incredible man. Andy. One more thing

(57:44):
before we let you go. Every week we share our
roast and our thorn, which is basically our best moment
of the week and our least favorite or messiest. So
I'll start it off to make it easy, and I'm
going to start with my thorn. And honestly, I don't
even know if I have thorn this week. I'm gonna

(58:04):
just say I've been traveling out this past week, so
it's just been I've been very exhausted. But it's a
good problem to have, and my rose is going to
be the fact that I was able to see and
surprise my mom and sister for Mother's Day, and it
was very fun and very fun to see my niece.
We were in the midst of potty training, which that
probably should have been my thorn for the messiest moment,

(58:25):
because it's definitely the potty training. What about you, Michelle,
I would say that my rose would have to be
that I was able to just spend a ton of
time this past weekend with friends and family outside because
the weather is turning over and so it's like that

(58:46):
lovely feeling of being able to open up your windows
and air at your house and like springs here and
the snow is done fingers crossed, hopefully. My thorn would
have to be that I overslept my alarms full times
this week, which usually never happens um, but it's like
it's kind of a chaotic way to start the week.

(59:06):
You know, it's almost summer break. Don't worry, it's almost there.
It's almost there. Andy, What about you? What is your rose?
And I mean my rose bitter sweet? But coming back
to la Um and it's gone for like a week
on the east, so it's it's just nice to like
be home. I miss Blaine. He's not here right now,

(59:26):
but we'll be together soon. But it's nice to me home.
That's definitely my rose is just a little big cave
my thorn. Actually having this morning when I lost my
Zara receipt for some returns. No, no returns accepted without
a receipt. I do love Zara, but it is difficult
to return some stuff. So it is it is. Andy.

(59:47):
I am so happy we had you on. It's been
way too long. I've already love you, so thank you
for joining us on Happy Hour. Before you go, Where
can all of our listeners find you on social? Um?
Well find me very often. But when I'm the Instagram
at Andy at yes another private, you do have to

(01:00:09):
meet in person. We I will plan a girl's night
Michelle when you're out here next I will be because
it would be so much fun. Yes, we'll definitely have
to link up again and m until then, send me
send me those copies because I actually want to get
into that. Thank you guys for having me. Thanks Andy,
We'll see you soon. Take care bye. She's an absolute gem.

(01:00:34):
When we all get together, you will hit it off
and love her she's so sweet. She just seems so
down to earth, so normal, um and just I don't know.
I love her yea. And one thing about her too
that I mean, when you're in person, you'll definitely pick
up on. But she is also just so confident and
who she is as a woman, as a person, what

(01:00:58):
she stands for. And I think that that's something it's
a great aspect that anyone can have in life. But
it's really empowering to when, like I've only been out
with her a handful of times, but she builds people up,
she builds women up. She just knows who she is
and she owns it. And that's one thing that I
love most about her. But I'm so glad we had
her on. It was good to just catch up and
hear more about her, her new relationship and this next

(01:01:21):
chapter in her life. I can't wait to see them
with their wedding plans. And I love the fact that right,
I mean, I was blinded every time she would lift
up her left hand, I was like, oh, wow, can
we get still shot of this? She's it is. I
love I love that she's like, oh, no, one was
going to notice it. When I went out with Amanda,
and I was like, there's no hiding that. Honestly, you

(01:01:45):
should have left it at home if you didn't want
people to say anything, because it's is a big old
root that thing. Oh yeah, yeah, it's like the right
world of China that people can see from space. That
is her ring. Um. But Ane, thank you for joining us,
and thank you Michelle for being here again. I have
I've had such a blasting this podcast with you. I'm

(01:02:06):
so happy that you started this with me and I
can't wait to a week. It just gets better and
better and I just I love to it with you.
So thank you, Michelle. It really has been awesome and
I'm so excited too, just for the day where we
get to take this in person, whether it's you know,
in person in La or in person on the road

(01:02:29):
wherever it's at. Yeah, so just start watch out. Michelle.
Thank you, and a huge thank you to all of
our Batchelor Happy Hour listeners. It was so fun chatting
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