December 19, 2024 • 23 mins
Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena are back at the Bachelor Mansion and celebrating the holidays with the original Bachelorette, Trista Sutter. Trista reveals why being on “The Bachelorette” gave her a competitive edge in the during her time on “Special Forces,” plus, she gives an update on how the Bachelorette group chat has been lately and shares how she and Ryan celebrated their 21st wedding anniversary this month. All this and so much more... Listen now!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we are actually in
the Bachelor Mansion.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Today with one of our favorite people, christ the Sutter.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
First, you know, I forget that you're the first bachelorette ever.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Ever, Wow, how did you feel?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
How did you feel about Jim? Do you think she
did well?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I think she did amazing. I mean, please tell me
that you agree.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Oh yeah, I think she did a great job.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Amazing. I love her, like love her. We talked like
I went on the show and gave her some advice
and we stayed in touch.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
What was that advice? What was the what was the
one thing you said to her that you thought stuck?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
So I don't know that it's stuck, but the one
piece of advice that she was going into fantasy suites.
And you know, if you watch the show, everyone out there,
you know that she had a hard time thinking about
the fantasy suites. She didn't want to be intimate with
more than one person or before she chose her final guide, right,
(01:05):
or they chose each other. And so my advice was
just two do what she felt was right for her.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Sorry, screw the producers. Screw the show, do what's right
for her.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
And also, like in my my season, what happened on
the Bachelor was I was the runner up. I hate,
I hate using that term, but it's what I want.
And two days before the.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Fun to think of new terminologying of how everything falls
in line, Like we need to think of specialty terminology
for the Bachelor because that just doesn't feel like a f.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I was number too, but I don't be number two either.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
So I get to the Bachelorette and I'm having all
these feelings for Ryan, but because of what happened to
me on the Bachelor, I didn't want.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
To give into it.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
So he was like professing his love, like giving me
letters and writing that he loved me and all of
these things.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But I didn't give him anything.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
And to this day I do regret it that I
didn't give him any racilation.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I feel like like fantasy Suite now is just kind
of it's part of the show and it's normalized as
it should be.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But for your season, was there like a stigma.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Around especially a woman like going to the fantasy suites
or a woman bringing three guys into the fantasy suites.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, yes, So.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I had a stigma on me, not just fantasy suites,
the entire season, like a cloud over my head from
the get go. When I was announced because it was
a woman, twenty five guys, so literally I was called.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Every name in the book.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I feel like in the press they were like, she's
going to look like a slut, She's you know, all
the things right, and it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It was crazy in print that would be like Sutter.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yes, yes, it's so all good. But yes, at that
point in time, I was called everything. So there was
a stigma on me before I even started the show,
and so going into it, I mean there was a
there was a moment where Jamie blythe who if you
watch the show or don't remember, he's the guy who
like literally he smiles and it's.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Like he's a toothpaste commercial where it's.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Like, actually, I actually I actually could picture.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Him and you probably you might know him. He's from Chicago.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You're from Chicago, from Chicago, but I know who he is.
He's got like blondish hair.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yes, yeah, he played basketball anyway, So he were on
this group date and he asked if he could kiss me,
And this is probably the third day in or something
like people kiss everybody the first night in these days, right,
and you hadn't kissed anyone yet. I hadn't kissed anyone yet.
(04:10):
And he was very, very, very slow.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
But you also probably had the public's judgment of you
in the back of your mind when you're making these
decisions about intimacy and SIGs.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Thank you exactly. So he asked if he could kiss me,
and I was like, oh, maybe on the cheek.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And now she's proud exactly right, they're still calling her
yeah right, you know they were not.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Just filming, but no, So I had it in the
back of my mind about the fantasy fantasy suites. I
totally understand where Jones coming from. I mean, the fact
of the matter is she has an entire family, grown children,
grandchildren who are going to be watching this show. And
as opposed to like when you're young, you're going on
the show and you're thinking about your parents and your
grandparents watching, she has grandchildren. So I feel like I
(05:02):
totally respect that she was trying to be more conservative
and honor the people who had told her prior like
this is going to be scary watching you, and that
she should go her own path because it worked out, Yes, right,
did exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Okay, So your season of The Bachelorette was how many
years ago?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
So we filmed well in two thousand and two, two
thousand and February two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I think it's okay, so almost so twenty something nears.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
So we celebrated our twenty first wedding anniversary about a
week ago.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
For it nothing, I like, what did we do?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I think, Oh, we went to lunch in this cute
little town called Littleton, like downtown, and then just walked
around and shopped nice.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But I think we had a hockey game.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
We did.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
We went to a hockey game. We watched our son
play hockey. Nowhere else we'd want to be in the
world besides watching our daughter dance.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, so you're was that the last time you were
on reality TV?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
So I went on and did Dancing with the Okay,
first season of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
There were six of us.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It was the first season ever.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
First season ever. I was the very first one ever
kicked off the show.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You're the first season of Dancing with the Stars as well.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Wow, So how has it changed since that? Dancing with
the Stars, so many more people, more budgets and more
everything budget.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
There's on your season, Rachel Hunter, like supermodel, Joey McIntyre,
the block.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Huh a Vander holy.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Field listen, I was a dancer, okay. I danced for
the Miami Heat. Was I a ballroom dancer?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
But I was a dancer okay. And Evander Holyfield beat
me in a dancing competition.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Woxer, who else? Oh Seinfeld? Kelly, Kelly Monico, Who's soap opera?
And then John John O'Hurley.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I was like, what's the last name, John O'Hurley? He
was Seinfeld's like, what's the character Newman?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
No, not Newman? He's uh tall, gray like gray hair.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
He had the catalog.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
He had the catalog on Seinfeld.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Like, if you should know anything.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Thank you, John Easton coming out with the wind, Jay Bierman.
So those it was six of us.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
So even though I was the first one kicked off,
I got to sixth place, there.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Came in fifth or six one of them. Okay, we tied, well,
I was, you were probably much better than I was.
I was like, the worst it's ever done. The show's true.
So then okay, so now we see the trailer comes
off for Special Forces.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's rumored to be like one of the most intense.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Reality shows or shows out there. How'd you make the decision.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
To do it?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
At first, I was like, you've got to be kidding,
No way I'm doing that. Do you know my husband,
he's a firefighter exactly. He wanted to be in the military.
He's colorblind, like, couldn't do it anyway. He would be
perfect for the show. Like really, at that point in time,
I was fifty one years old. I'm you know, I'm
a stay at home and work mom, but I just thought,
(08:42):
you're crazy, Why would you want me?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I did it kind of for that reason.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
So I've been a stay at home and work mom
for almost eighteen years, and I have poured myself into
my children and my family life, and I kind of
wanted to get back to me, you know, because when
you become a mom, you it's all about your kids
and your family. For a lot of women, I feel
(09:08):
like and that was me. I just felt like, I'm
anticipating what it's going to feel like when my kids
go away, and it breaks my heart and I don't
know who I'm going to be when they're gone. Yeah,
and I don't know what I want to do with
my life besides just hang out with Ryan, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
This oh I go on.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I feel like I just wanted to challenge myself. I
wanted to show myself that I can do hard things
that I wanted to meet new people.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I feel like.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
It's a once in a lifetime opportunity to really learn
about what the military goes through and gain even more respect.
I mean, I already have respect for them, but but
gain even more respect for who they are and what
they do for all of us. So I'm really thankful
that they asked me. I'm grateful for the opportunity. But yeah,
(10:10):
at first, I was like, uh, hell.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, so did you did you and your family like
sit down once you said okay, I'm gonna do this,
did you sit down and watch?
Speaker 5 (10:19):
So I watched all the time, and yes, the kids
would walk in and you know, be like, what are
you watching? And I'd be like, I might be doing
that one day, wan do very soon. Yeah, they actually
like being that they're teenagers. You know, it's different if
they were little, but they're teenagers and I'm sure they'll
(10:40):
watch the show with their friends like Max's hockey buddies.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'm sure are going to be like, awesome, Holy crap,
what is your mom doing? Or just laugh at me along.
I'm going to be laughing to myself. Let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Did you feel any pressure about the fact that anyone
from Bachelor Nation that's done it up until this point
has made it all the way to the end?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Hell? Yes, I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Are you aware that everyone's been really good? Definitely aware?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
She didn't already known.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I knew going into it, And yes there is pressure.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Around Taylor, Cameron, and Nick Bayel are the three people
have done.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
It right, and then me and Ali are on this
season coming up, and so yes, there's a lot of
pressure I feel like, but I feel like it's similar
in a way to what everyone thinks is pressure coming
when it when it comes to.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Me and Ryan staying married. So a lot of people
are like, do you feel pressure just came here?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I'm like, no, because we're happy and we're married and
we're going to work it out and we're committed.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's what marriage is about, right. We didn't just get
married because it was on television.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You've been married for a long time. Yeah, it's so
crazy for people.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But even if you got the vorce, now at this point,
you still had a successful marriage.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Thank you. Yeah, hopefully that's not gonna happen, but yes, yes,
I feel like it's been successful.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I mean we've you know, ups and downs, we've had them.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
There's a group chat with all the former bachelorettes, right,
was that going off when you and Ali got cast
for the show.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
It has kind of there's kind of a lull in
our group chat.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
There's got to be let's be real, there's got to
be a lot of people in that at that point.
You know. I think it's fun when there's like six
to ten girlies where you're like, we are a group
of bachelrettes. Now there's like twenty something. Yeah, you're right,
generational differences, you know, one groups within the groups.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yes, right, uh huh. Agreed.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Maybe when the show comes on, yeah, we'll light it
back up. But no, I don't recall that we have
actually chatted about it in the chat, Hannah Brown, you
said I did call her beforehand, and I know Al
did too.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, did you and Ali speak?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
We didn't know you until you got there, until we
got there, Okay, before so so if you follow Ali
on Instagram at that time, she was working out like
a fiend, okay.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Fiend, And once I found out that I was doing
the show, it clicked. I was like, I that I
couldn't confirm it with anyone. I couldn't write her, and
I mean I could, but I probably you know whatever,
I'm a rule follower.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
No, me too.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It's like an unspoken role and just etiquette that you wait, yes,
I get it.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
So but I had a feeling. And there was one
day that she was working out. She hired a boxing trainer,
and she was working out with her trainer and she
had the boots on that they sent to all of us,
and I was like.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh, she's totally.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Did you do any like physical training when you found out?
You were going, Oh yeah, for sure, you start hitting
the gem.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I ran more.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Hannah's advice was to run with a backpack, and my
my husband has like, yeah, he has a weighted vest.
So I did that, but I also ran with a backpack.
The way the weight invest is more like dispersed front
and back. Yeah, the backpack is all back. And on
(14:26):
the show, we had to fill our packs with we
had to have I think it was thirty five pounds,
is what it correlated to.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
They don't like change the weight per person, Like Joe
and I are carrying the same weighted back.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
So Cam Newton and I are carrying the same weight,
and that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You think they would do like a little more proportional.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You would think.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
But I think that the reason that they don't is
because in the military they.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Don't, right that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah you know what, Yeah, but you're not really joining
the military.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's like they could just be.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
True story, they could, but they don't.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Anything you could tease about it? Is there anything else?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I mean the tease is just to watch the trailer,
like you go find the trailer.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Trailer is intent. The trailer is intent.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
The trailer is intense, and they're putting out more trailers
and every time they come out, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I did that? You know going into it? What was
the thing that you were the most scared of being
buried alive?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Okay, that would not like that, that's one. Yeah, that's
an issue with that.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
You have an issue with a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
YEA being very deliing for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I actually had a big, huge fear of water before
I went on the show Swimmer. I used to be
a swimmer growing up, Like we talked about this.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I taught swimming lessons too. I was a lifeguard for years.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Yeah, I was on swim team and went to Hawaii.
I think I was a freshman or a sophomore in
high school and with my family had never been snorkeling.
I'm on the boat with like the guy who drove it.
I guess he's a captain, and I'm telling him how
scared I am to get in the water because I
didn't like swimming with fish right, right, And that's.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What snorkeling is about, Like you want to go see
the fish, right.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
So he's like, oh, you'll be fine, just get in,
and he proceeds. I get in, and he proceeds to
throw a handful of fish food on my head.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
What like the on the planet, Like I can zero
stars on yell zero stars zero you get a big
negative five. So all of these and we're in clear,
clear water, you know it's Hawaii.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Black fish surrounding me everywhere. I can see him coming
for me. Like it was traumatizing. So ever since then,
I've been traumatized by water, open water, especially and that's
what the season is about.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Well, and swimming open water is so different. Like I
have friends that are strong confidence swimmers, but like I've
taken them naively of me out and to go for
a swim, and like I'm like, let's go to swaps
like an open water and it's like significantly different and
more challenging. And it's one of those things like if
you don't exercise that muscle, like it's it is like
writing week, but it's not like you kind of have
(17:29):
to work your way back into it.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, and you have all your clothes on, you know,
it's not like you have a swimsuit on and no shoes.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
No.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, they're not putting in you in like wetsuits and flippers.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I no.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
My last special forces question and then we'll move on,
was it did you have?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Was there any benefit from doing a show like The
Bachelor or Bachelorette that helped you filming this show?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Good question.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I think so just being around the cameras, because there
are a lot of people on this season in who
were Olympic athletes who'd never been around cameras.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
And actually think about that.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So yeah, I feel like the cameras.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Just like being able to desensitize to them really quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, and like the interviews and stuff like that. But
you didn't do a lot of interviews, but the interview
we did prior, I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Feel a lot easier at that.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, I just know how it works.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Well, should we talk about why we're here today? So
we're here today the Bachelor Mansion. We're celebrating the holidays
with iHeart. What are your plans for the holidays?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Before? Before you yeah, talked to you. This. This is
our second year in a row at the Bachelor of Mansion.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I've now been to the Bachelor Mansion more after years
of being off the show than I was when I
was actually on the show.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Again, I actually never came here because we didn't film
my season here. We filmed at NEMA Collins. So last
year was the first time I've ever been to the
Bachelor Mansion. This is my second time here.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Whose season were you on.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Matt James? Okay, yeah, so we were a COVID season.
So last year is the person had ever come in here.
It's weird because it's not furnished or like set up
by the art team right now, so right looks completely different.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Completely different holidays.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
So, as you know, my husband's a firefighter, he's working
on the holidays, so we'll be at home. We live
in Denver now, we moved last year. We're in They're
just outside of okay, but yes, very close.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
So happy for.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Them and their new baby girl soon. Anyways, so she's
ready to pop. She looks like she is Andy Dorfmann
is who is ready to hop right now? She literally
pastor you date?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Really?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yes, oh yeah, I know Pastor Day.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I know. So we're just gonna hang in Denver, you know,
have a chill family quality time and then maybe go
up to Bail to ski.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We miss our community, our friend the mountains.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
So do you have a Christmas movie that you watch
every year?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I love elf.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
We don't not like the traditional like I was just
talking to Nora, who did my makeup, and I'm like, okay,
what are your like traditions that you love? And she's like,
we open presents like they get dressed up like to
the nines.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I guess it's like a European thing, yes, like suits
for the men. And on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
She's really look like trash and her Jammy's about jams.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I mean Ryan calls me pajama Mama, so I'm always
in my jammies, but we will she does like a
fancy one. And then on Christmas Day, like they just
watch Christmas movies and we're not.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
We don't really do that. We'll put them on, but watch.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Them sometimes do that. We'll like throw them in the
background while we're like doing things.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Just didn't get me anything for Christmas, Joe.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Joe can never wait until my birthday until Christmas to
give the gifts, so he gave me off my.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Did you.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
This year?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So for for our listeners, we we are traveling starting
as a yesterday and we're not going back home until
January eighth, so we have to pack so much as
it is, I can't, I can't get it. So but
so I gave her a Christmas presents early and I
have more Christmas presents Inago.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yes, and where are you going?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
On question?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
We're going to Chicago?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Amazing Number two questions What did you get her that
you already gave her?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I got her.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
A Beory hoodie that you wanted, an over size hoodie.
And then I got her quarters of the Teel quarters
if they're both sold.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Out by the way because you got them for Serena,
and because you.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Know I have I have great fashion sense.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yes, of course you do.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I know that they were going to be And then
I got her like these gray.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I wanted, like some cozy but like nice. I feel
like all my loungewear is like either I can't wear
out in public or like I'm wearing it in public
for ten years, I should probably throw it away.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And then I got her a coffee mug that said
you're my Blair to Serena.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Serena.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
He goes, see, this is your name on it, and
he was like, you watched that show gossip Girl, right,
isn't that?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It's which is a gossip girl?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Like you asked me a week ago? He goes, have
you ever seen gossip Girl before? And I was like, yeah,
I watched it and he was like great, thank God
because I'm getting But I did bring you a Christmas
gift and I'm waiting till Christmas to give it to you.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Did you bring it?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Okay, Well, and I shipped some things to his parents' house,
which so we'll get it in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, that's it. Trista that's all. That's all we need
for you today. Thank you so much though for taking
the time.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
We are going to hang out more and Trista before
we let you go, anything you want to plug sure.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Plug away.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Of course we talked about special courses, So for everyone
out there, watch season three on Fox on January eighth.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Can you stream it?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I think so? Yeah for sure? And then Almost Famous
Ogs my podcast with I Heart Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Tune in and to our listeners, Thank you guys so
much for tuning into Better Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We appreciate it and make sure you download and subscribe.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Thanks so much for listening. Happy holidays, Bye bye,
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we are actually in
the Bachelor Mansion.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Today with one of our favorite people, christ the Sutter.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
First, you know, I forget that you're the first bachelorette ever.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Ever, Wow, how did you feel?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
How did you feel about Jim? Do you think she
did well?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I think she did amazing. I mean, please tell me
that you agree.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
Oh yeah, I think she did a great job.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
Amazing. I love her, like love her. We talked like
I went on the show and gave her some advice
and we stayed in touch.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
What was that advice? What was the what was the
one thing you said to her that you thought stuck?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
So I don't know that it's stuck, but the one
piece of advice that she was going into fantasy suites.
And you know, if you watch the show, everyone out there,
you know that she had a hard time thinking about
the fantasy suites. She didn't want to be intimate with
more than one person or before she chose her final guide, right,
(01:05):
or they chose each other. And so my advice was
just two do what she felt was right for her.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Right.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Sorry, screw the producers. Screw the show, do what's right
for her.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
And also, like in my my season, what happened on
the Bachelor was I was the runner up. I hate,
I hate using that term, but it's what I want.
And two days before the.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Fun to think of new terminologying of how everything falls
in line, Like we need to think of specialty terminology
for the Bachelor because that just doesn't feel like a f.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I was number too, but I don't be number two either.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
So I get to the Bachelorette and I'm having all
these feelings for Ryan, but because of what happened to
me on the Bachelor, I didn't want.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
To give into it.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
So he was like professing his love, like giving me
letters and writing that he loved me and all of
these things.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But I didn't give him anything.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
And to this day I do regret it that I
didn't give him any racilation.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I feel like like fantasy Suite now is just kind
of it's part of the show and it's normalized as
it should be.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But for your season, was there like a stigma.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Around especially a woman like going to the fantasy suites
or a woman bringing three guys into the fantasy suites.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, yes, So.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
I had a stigma on me, not just fantasy suites,
the entire season, like a cloud over my head from
the get go. When I was announced because it was
a woman, twenty five guys, so literally I was called.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Every name in the book.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I feel like in the press they were like, she's
going to look like a slut, She's you know, all
the things right, and it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It was crazy in print that would be like Sutter.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yes, yes, it's so all good. But yes, at that
point in time, I was called everything. So there was
a stigma on me before I even started the show,
and so going into it, I mean there was a
there was a moment where Jamie blythe who if you
watch the show or don't remember, he's the guy who
like literally he smiles and it's.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Like he's a toothpaste commercial where it's.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Like, actually, I actually I actually could picture.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Him and you probably you might know him. He's from Chicago.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
You're from Chicago, from Chicago, but I know who he is.
He's got like blondish hair.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Yes, yeah, he played basketball anyway, So he were on
this group date and he asked if he could kiss me,
And this is probably the third day in or something
like people kiss everybody the first night in these days, right,
and you hadn't kissed anyone yet. I hadn't kissed anyone yet.
(04:10):
And he was very, very, very slow.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
But you also probably had the public's judgment of you
in the back of your mind when you're making these
decisions about intimacy and SIGs.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Thank you exactly. So he asked if he could kiss me,
and I was like, oh, maybe on the cheek.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And now she's proud exactly right, they're still calling her
yeah right, you know they were not.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Just filming, but no, So I had it in the
back of my mind about the fantasy fantasy suites. I
totally understand where Jones coming from. I mean, the fact
of the matter is she has an entire family, grown children,
grandchildren who are going to be watching this show. And
as opposed to like when you're young, you're going on
the show and you're thinking about your parents and your
grandparents watching, she has grandchildren. So I feel like I
(05:02):
totally respect that she was trying to be more conservative
and honor the people who had told her prior like
this is going to be scary watching you, and that
she should go her own path because it worked out, Yes, right,
did exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Okay, So your season of The Bachelorette was how many
years ago?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
So we filmed well in two thousand and two, two
thousand and February two thousand and two.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I think it's okay, so almost so twenty something nears.
Speaker 5 (05:36):
So we celebrated our twenty first wedding anniversary about a
week ago.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
For it nothing, I like, what did we do?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
I think, Oh, we went to lunch in this cute
little town called Littleton, like downtown, and then just walked
around and shopped nice.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
But I think we had a hockey game.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
We did.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
We went to a hockey game. We watched our son
play hockey. Nowhere else we'd want to be in the
world besides watching our daughter dance.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Okay, so you're was that the last time you were
on reality TV?
Speaker 5 (06:11):
So I went on and did Dancing with the Okay,
first season of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
There were six of us.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It was the first season ever.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
First season ever. I was the very first one ever
kicked off the show.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
You're the first season of Dancing with the Stars as well.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Wow, So how has it changed since that? Dancing with
the Stars, so many more people, more budgets and more
everything budget.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
There's on your season, Rachel Hunter, like supermodel, Joey McIntyre,
the block.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Huh a Vander holy.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Field listen, I was a dancer, okay. I danced for
the Miami Heat. Was I a ballroom dancer?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:52):
But I was a dancer okay. And Evander Holyfield beat
me in a dancing competition.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Woxer, who else? Oh Seinfeld? Kelly, Kelly Monico, Who's soap opera?
And then John John O'Hurley.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
I was like, what's the last name, John O'Hurley? He
was Seinfeld's like, what's the character Newman?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
No, not Newman? He's uh tall, gray like gray hair.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
He had the catalog.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
He had the catalog on Seinfeld.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Like, if you should know anything.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Thank you, John Easton coming out with the wind, Jay Bierman.
So those it was six of us.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
So even though I was the first one kicked off,
I got to sixth place, there.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Came in fifth or six one of them. Okay, we tied, well,
I was, you were probably much better than I was.
I was like, the worst it's ever done. The show's true.
So then okay, so now we see the trailer comes
off for Special Forces.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's rumored to be like one of the most intense.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Reality shows or shows out there. How'd you make the decision.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
To do it?
Speaker 5 (08:19):
At first, I was like, you've got to be kidding,
No way I'm doing that. Do you know my husband,
he's a firefighter exactly. He wanted to be in the military.
He's colorblind, like, couldn't do it anyway. He would be
perfect for the show. Like really, at that point in time,
I was fifty one years old. I'm you know, I'm
a stay at home and work mom, but I just thought,
(08:42):
you're crazy, Why would you want me?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I did it kind of for that reason.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
So I've been a stay at home and work mom
for almost eighteen years, and I have poured myself into
my children and my family life, and I kind of
wanted to get back to me, you know, because when
you become a mom, you it's all about your kids
and your family. For a lot of women, I feel
(09:08):
like and that was me. I just felt like, I'm
anticipating what it's going to feel like when my kids
go away, and it breaks my heart and I don't
know who I'm going to be when they're gone. Yeah,
and I don't know what I want to do with
my life besides just hang out with Ryan, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
This oh I go on.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I feel like I just wanted to challenge myself. I
wanted to show myself that I can do hard things
that I wanted to meet new people.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I feel like.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
It's a once in a lifetime opportunity to really learn
about what the military goes through and gain even more respect.
I mean, I already have respect for them, but but
gain even more respect for who they are and what
they do for all of us. So I'm really thankful
that they asked me. I'm grateful for the opportunity. But yeah,
(10:10):
at first, I was like, uh, hell.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, so did you did you and your family like
sit down once you said okay, I'm gonna do this,
did you sit down and watch?
Speaker 5 (10:19):
So I watched all the time, and yes, the kids
would walk in and you know, be like, what are
you watching? And I'd be like, I might be doing
that one day, wan do very soon. Yeah, they actually
like being that they're teenagers. You know, it's different if
they were little, but they're teenagers and I'm sure they'll
(10:40):
watch the show with their friends like Max's hockey buddies.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I'm sure are going to be like, awesome, Holy crap,
what is your mom doing? Or just laugh at me along.
I'm going to be laughing to myself. Let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Did you feel any pressure about the fact that anyone
from Bachelor Nation that's done it up until this point
has made it all the way to the end?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Hell? Yes, I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Are you aware that everyone's been really good? Definitely aware?
Speaker 4 (11:13):
She didn't already known.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I knew going into it, And yes there is pressure.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Around Taylor, Cameron, and Nick Bayel are the three people
have done.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
It right, and then me and Ali are on this
season coming up, and so yes, there's a lot of
pressure I feel like, but I feel like it's similar
in a way to what everyone thinks is pressure coming
when it when it comes to.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Me and Ryan staying married. So a lot of people
are like, do you feel pressure just came here?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
I'm like, no, because we're happy and we're married and
we're going to work it out and we're committed.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's what marriage is about, right. We didn't just get
married because it was on television.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
You've been married for a long time. Yeah, it's so
crazy for people.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
But even if you got the vorce, now at this point,
you still had a successful marriage.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Thank you. Yeah, hopefully that's not gonna happen, but yes, yes,
I feel like it's been successful.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I mean we've you know, ups and downs, we've had them.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
There's a group chat with all the former bachelorettes, right,
was that going off when you and Ali got cast
for the show.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
It has kind of there's kind of a lull in
our group chat.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
There's got to be let's be real, there's got to
be a lot of people in that at that point.
You know. I think it's fun when there's like six
to ten girlies where you're like, we are a group
of bachelrettes. Now there's like twenty something. Yeah, you're right,
generational differences, you know, one groups within the groups.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yes, right, uh huh. Agreed.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
Maybe when the show comes on, yeah, we'll light it
back up. But no, I don't recall that we have
actually chatted about it in the chat, Hannah Brown, you
said I did call her beforehand, and I know Al
did too.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, did you and Ali speak?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
We didn't know you until you got there, until we
got there, Okay, before so so if you follow Ali
on Instagram at that time, she was working out like
a fiend, okay.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Fiend, And once I found out that I was doing
the show, it clicked. I was like, I that I
couldn't confirm it with anyone. I couldn't write her, and
I mean I could, but I probably you know whatever,
I'm a rule follower.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
No, me too.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
It's like an unspoken role and just etiquette that you wait, yes,
I get it.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
So but I had a feeling. And there was one
day that she was working out. She hired a boxing trainer,
and she was working out with her trainer and she
had the boots on that they sent to all of us,
and I was like.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Oh, she's totally.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Did you do any like physical training when you found out?
You were going, Oh yeah, for sure, you start hitting
the gem.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
I ran more.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Hannah's advice was to run with a backpack, and my
my husband has like, yeah, he has a weighted vest.
So I did that, but I also ran with a backpack.
The way the weight invest is more like dispersed front
and back. Yeah, the backpack is all back. And on
(14:26):
the show, we had to fill our packs with we
had to have I think it was thirty five pounds,
is what it correlated to.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
They don't like change the weight per person, Like Joe
and I are carrying the same weighted back.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
So Cam Newton and I are carrying the same weight,
and that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
You think they would do like a little more proportional.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You would think.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
But I think that the reason that they don't is
because in the military they.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Don't, right that.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah you know what, Yeah, but you're not really joining
the military.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
It's like they could just be.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
True story, they could, but they don't.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Anything you could tease about it? Is there anything else?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
I mean the tease is just to watch the trailer,
like you go find the trailer.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Trailer is intent. The trailer is intent.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
The trailer is intense, and they're putting out more trailers
and every time they come out, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
I did that? You know going into it? What was
the thing that you were the most scared of being
buried alive?
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Okay, that would not like that, that's one. Yeah, that's
an issue with that.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
You have an issue with a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
YEA being very deliing for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I actually had a big, huge fear of water before
I went on the show Swimmer. I used to be
a swimmer growing up, Like we talked about this.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I taught swimming lessons too. I was a lifeguard for years.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
Yeah, I was on swim team and went to Hawaii.
I think I was a freshman or a sophomore in
high school and with my family had never been snorkeling.
I'm on the boat with like the guy who drove it.
I guess he's a captain, and I'm telling him how
scared I am to get in the water because I
didn't like swimming with fish right, right, And that's.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
What snorkeling is about, Like you want to go see
the fish, right.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
So he's like, oh, you'll be fine, just get in,
and he proceeds. I get in, and he proceeds to
throw a handful of fish food on my head.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
What like the on the planet, Like I can zero
stars on yell zero stars zero you get a big
negative five. So all of these and we're in clear,
clear water, you know it's Hawaii.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Black fish surrounding me everywhere. I can see him coming
for me. Like it was traumatizing. So ever since then,
I've been traumatized by water, open water, especially and that's
what the season is about.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Well, and swimming open water is so different. Like I
have friends that are strong confidence swimmers, but like I've
taken them naively of me out and to go for
a swim, and like I'm like, let's go to swaps
like an open water and it's like significantly different and
more challenging. And it's one of those things like if
you don't exercise that muscle, like it's it is like
writing week, but it's not like you kind of have
(17:29):
to work your way back into it.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
Yeah, and you have all your clothes on, you know,
it's not like you have a swimsuit on and no shoes.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
No.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, they're not putting in you in like wetsuits and flippers.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I no.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
My last special forces question and then we'll move on,
was it did you have?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Was there any benefit from doing a show like The
Bachelor or Bachelorette that helped you filming this show?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Good question.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
I think so just being around the cameras, because there
are a lot of people on this season in who
were Olympic athletes who'd never been around cameras.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
And actually think about that.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
So yeah, I feel like the cameras.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Just like being able to desensitize to them really quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, and like the interviews and stuff like that. But
you didn't do a lot of interviews, but the interview
we did prior, I'm.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Feel a lot easier at that.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Yeah, I just know how it works.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Well, should we talk about why we're here today? So
we're here today the Bachelor Mansion. We're celebrating the holidays
with iHeart. What are your plans for the holidays?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Before? Before you yeah, talked to you. This. This is
our second year in a row at the Bachelor of Mansion.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I've now been to the Bachelor Mansion more after years
of being off the show than I was when I
was actually on the show.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Again, I actually never came here because we didn't film
my season here. We filmed at NEMA Collins. So last
year was the first time I've ever been to the
Bachelor Mansion. This is my second time here.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Whose season were you on.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Matt James? Okay, yeah, so we were a COVID season.
So last year is the person had ever come in here.
It's weird because it's not furnished or like set up
by the art team right now, so right looks completely different.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Completely different holidays.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
So, as you know, my husband's a firefighter, he's working
on the holidays, so we'll be at home. We live
in Denver now, we moved last year. We're in They're
just outside of okay, but yes, very close.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
So happy for.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Them and their new baby girl soon. Anyways, so she's
ready to pop. She looks like she is Andy Dorfmann
is who is ready to hop right now? She literally
pastor you date?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Really?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yes, oh yeah, I know Pastor Day.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
I know. So we're just gonna hang in Denver, you know,
have a chill family quality time and then maybe go
up to Bail to ski.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
We miss our community, our friend the mountains.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
So do you have a Christmas movie that you watch
every year?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
I love elf.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
We don't not like the traditional like I was just
talking to Nora, who did my makeup, and I'm like, okay,
what are your like traditions that you love? And she's like,
we open presents like they get dressed up like to
the nines.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I guess it's like a European thing, yes, like suits
for the men. And on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
She's really look like trash and her Jammy's about jams.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I mean Ryan calls me pajama Mama, so I'm always
in my jammies, but we will she does like a
fancy one. And then on Christmas Day, like they just
watch Christmas movies and we're not.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
We don't really do that. We'll put them on, but watch.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Them sometimes do that. We'll like throw them in the
background while we're like doing things.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Just didn't get me anything for Christmas, Joe.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Joe can never wait until my birthday until Christmas to
give the gifts, so he gave me off my.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Did you.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
This year?
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So for for our listeners, we we are traveling starting
as a yesterday and we're not going back home until
January eighth, so we have to pack so much as
it is, I can't, I can't get it. So but
so I gave her a Christmas presents early and I
have more Christmas presents Inago.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yes, and where are you going?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
On question?
Speaker 4 (21:26):
We're going to Chicago?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Amazing Number two questions What did you get her that
you already gave her?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I got her.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
A Beory hoodie that you wanted, an over size hoodie.
And then I got her quarters of the Teel quarters
if they're both sold.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Out by the way because you got them for Serena,
and because you.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Know I have I have great fashion sense.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yes, of course you do.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I know that they were going to be And then
I got her like these gray.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
I wanted, like some cozy but like nice. I feel
like all my loungewear is like either I can't wear
out in public or like I'm wearing it in public
for ten years, I should probably throw it away.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And then I got her a coffee mug that said
you're my Blair to Serena.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Serena.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
He goes, see, this is your name on it, and
he was like, you watched that show gossip Girl, right,
isn't that?
Speaker 3 (22:12):
It's which is a gossip girl?
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Like you asked me a week ago? He goes, have
you ever seen gossip Girl before? And I was like, yeah,
I watched it and he was like great, thank God
because I'm getting But I did bring you a Christmas
gift and I'm waiting till Christmas to give it to you.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Believe it or not.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Did you bring it?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Okay, Well, and I shipped some things to his parents' house,
which so we'll get it in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Okay, that's it. Trista that's all. That's all we need
for you today. Thank you so much though for taking
the time.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
We are going to hang out more and Trista before
we let you go, anything you want to plug sure.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Plug away.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Of course we talked about special courses, So for everyone
out there, watch season three on Fox on January eighth.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Can you stream it?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I think so? Yeah for sure? And then Almost Famous
Ogs my podcast with I Heart Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Tune in and to our listeners, Thank you guys so
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