November 21, 2023 • 41 mins
Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Blake Moynes stops by to chat about his summer in “Paradise” and the reunion between him and Katie that still has all of Bachelor Nation talking.
In his discussion with Joe and Serena, Blake dives into his relationship with Jess and explains why at times he felt like they struggled to progress into something more emotionally serious. He also finally gives Joe and Serena the clarity they have so desperately been searching for: Did Blake know that Jess kissed Tyler?!
Plus, Blake recounts all the emotions he felt when his ex-fiancée appeared on the beach and shares why he was convinced she was there to actually date.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to bats for Happy Hour. I'm
Serena and Joe and we are here with none of that.
Blake Moyin's from Batchelor in Paradise. So happy Blake, you
could be here.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I think it's due your unhappy.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Mm hmmm probably probably when.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
For a finale.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Right, it's been two years. Yeah, welcome back.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I had we had Blake on Clickbait. Yeah, I remember
that was a good episode. We really got into the wildlife,
your whole. I remember you asked me to go on
one of those trips but I backed out.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
What about you? Could you do the whale one?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
What? What did it entail?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
There wasn't really much. It's just I just have to
put you in the ocean and I dragged you over
to the whales and just you just need to float
there and just take it off.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Your water, right, Yeah, like you're in there with.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's voice emerged not yeah, yeah, Like it's just you
and the what's your next one? I go to I
go to Bolivia and the Amazon for six weeks and jaguars, oslats,
spider monkeys and a conas.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Do you have anything that falls under just like a
little more mild, like I don't want to die, Like
I don't want to die. I don't want to get
bit by anything. I don't want poison ivy, I don't
want to get bit by anything.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So so this is interesting, right, Like I was, I
was asked, you know, because it's been it's been girls
that have come with you for the last few Then
the thing is, like I think it takes a specific
project to like have a male come on. You're not
gonna come on and do sea turls with me. It's
just a little hot you know.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, that's speed. That's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Do you want to come out and have like a
cute little excursion with.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Me doing exactly what you want?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, I would do that. I do that. I would
do I would like I would do like a surfari
and like I'm all down to like see jaguars, but
they like, how close do you get into those?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well this specific Well, so we're going out to try
and find wild ones. We're doing a four day little
trip out into the actual Amazon. But then I'm working
with a wildlife sanctuary that rehabs them. So it's a
jaguar that's taken out of the pet trade and so
it's a rewilding project, so we'll be very close to them,
and it's essentially trying to make it as wild as
possible from being habituated to humans and trying to make
(02:30):
them basically wild again. So yeah, it can be. I've
never done this before. This is the first time we're
going to go do it so dangerous.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
But like more, I feel like jaguars are the scariest
of animals. Like, jaguars are strong, and I think they're
the fastest, right, Like, well.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Cheetahs are the fastest, but jaguars are like you know,
you see them taking out canan and they can take
out essentially anything.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
For the seas, no, no, no, no, it's nowhere here
sure yeah no, yeah, actually penguins is in the Okay,
I can make that.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I think I can make my favorite one that you've
been on.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Uh when I went back into the Kenya thing. I
think we're just so close to big tusker elephants in
a wild setting that that was like the most wild
and real with being able to rangers range of three weeks.
But the whale comes close in the sense of like
I remember being in with my snorkele and the calf
and the mom were coming up real close and they
don't normally have interactions like that, and I remember just
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feeling like I'm very out of place and swearing, being like, hoh,
holy fuck, holy fuckuse you're just there's nothing you can
do it in the ocean like that. It's up to
them as to how they want to move around. You
can't get out of the way, really, so I remember
just feeling like part pounding, like there's nothing I can
do here, and just kind of take it in and
thank god these are harmless animals for the most part,
(03:55):
because yeah, so that was the second closest.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Dream vulnerability.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, I think that's what I chase, right.
I like that, Like, there's not a lot really, you know,
works me up, but animal encounters like that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, let's get let's get into the show. But keep
me in mind for penguins because I like penguins. Okay,
I'll do so, Blake, Blake, Blake, Where should we start.
Let's start with let's start from the beginning. You coming down,
who were you interested in? Were you hesitant at all?
(04:33):
Were you excited? What's up?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I think this is the first time. I wasn't like
overly excited, wasn't nervous either. I think doing this a
couple of times, there's there was nerves, but like I
knew how it kind of worked. For the most part.
I came in very open minded, but like you know,
you're always asked, like what this list. Everyone talks about
this list from experience coming on like really headstrong for
(04:59):
Clear and really heads for Katie. Like I really wanted
to come in with like just no expectations, loosen up
a little bit and just kind of see what happens.
But I did say, you know, okay, like Jess's cue,
kat was cute. I felt like Ariel was coming, and
there are some people that I visually thought were attractive.
It was a cure scene. But I really didn't dive
into much more than that. So that was kind of
(05:19):
the look coming down, Okay, I think that that all.
I was more curious. I was more curious. I wasn't
excited or anything. I was just curious about what it looked.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, So then it seems like you really it's just
like kind of you and Jess are hanging out at
the beginning, and it seems like you're starting to you like,
form a relationship. Let's talk about the beginning part of
your relationship with Jess.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, what was that like?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Uh, it was kind of surprising. I think it was
she made it. What I was attracted with her was
this this calm, like sweet like it was almost like
in dear. You could tell that she was nervous to
be there, and I kind of attracted to that. It.
(06:08):
You know, we kissed the first time we we spoke,
and that kind of almost set me off in a sense,
like I felt like I needed like to be careful
with that. You could tell that she was super sensitive.
And I remember walking away and going to sit down
with the rest of the people in that group and
after that and feeling really excited about the start of that.
But I also was like nervousness sense as to how
I would manage that relationship because I had like almost
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a protective feeling about it. You could tell that she
was could be vulnerable or be upset, like she is
a sense of person you could do that through that.
So when I kissed her, you know, it is a gesture.
It is a gesture that you're into somebody, and I
didn't and I want to be protective of that, and
I think that kind of I wouldn't say I shouldn't
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have had that mindset, but like I think I gravitated
to her because I felt some type of I don't know, commitment.
I don't know, Like when I make a gesture like that,
you felt did you feel you.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Felt the gesture meant something? And because you felt like
it meant a lot to her, there was a level
of commitment to her now exactly so that it wasn't
just like, you know, a nothing kiss. It was like,
you know, I'm excited about this. I feel like that
probably meant something to her, and I want to be
respectful of her feelings.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So now you know we're going.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
To move forward here, because she definitely doesn't come off
as one that just like throws a kiss around like that,
and you can see how she kind of handles that
the rest of the season. She just not wanted that.
So when I'm making a gesture like that, first off,
I meant it, but I wanted to be protective of that,
protective of her. She just like gives that off. You
know what I mean, did you you want to hurt.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Did you have that conversation with her like what you're
saying to us?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yes, So, I mean she knew that I was very
much interned. I told her pretty well right off the top.
There was no one currently on the beach. That was
overly like a check to where I wanted to, you know,
ruin what we had. I also understand there's a time
limit being experienced as I am. So it was like,
unless somebody comes down that really blows me away. Yes,
(08:10):
I'm hoping to explore it, but there's nobody currently here,
and so I wanted to protect that in that moment.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Okay, So then when she so and she I forget
where I think it's like a bonfire or wherever it
goes down one of the truth circles or whatever. You
guys played so many games, and Jess kind of opens
up about like you not necessarily being heard or you
being her number one right now, but like if somebody
(08:37):
came in, were you shocked to hear that?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Oh yeah, that was truth or dare Yeah, So there's the.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Truth circle where like it was so early that I
feel like you're like both you alluded to like you
know it's going good. We'll see what happens. And then
once truth or dare hit were a little later on
and someone's like, Jess is Blake, You're number one, and
she's like, yeah, he's my number one on this beach
right now.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah. So I think that the issue was is that
Jess was very open about who she was potentially interested
in seeing, which was Tyler and Tanner were like the
ones that were the focal point, and before they came down,
I knew that that was going to eventually be a thing.
I had a feeling that they are probably going to come,
and so by Anders, I also could tell that she
(09:24):
was like struggling and very unsure with me and like
knowing that they were potentially coming. So I was very
aware of that and was like very just calm and
understood that where it became where it became tricky was
I could tell that, like, I, how do I explain this?
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When I sat down with her and told her remember
the scene where we were crying or she was crying
and she walked away, there was a struggle there. I
knew that there was no one on that beature. I
wasn't waiting for anyone to come down, so my focus
was on her, but knowing how open and she was,
like I still want to explore. I still want to explore,
even though.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I you still want to play a little, you still
want to play a little hard to get because but yes.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But at the same time, I also as much as
I wasn't open, I kept telling her yet, like I'm open,
I'm open up because she was very uncomfortable with that
whole topic. So it was almost trying to make her
more comfortable saying I'm also like, I'm good, Like, do
your thing, I'm open too, because if I closed off
right away in the beginning, it's like I just want
you to have more pressure on her to like you
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don't want to scare her. I was calmer and more
like do your thing. I'm going to be good short
out your shift though, and so I was trying to
help her. Just came a point where I'm like, i'd
be locked in right now if you were telling me
you weren't waiting for anybody. Yeah, I had to eventually
say that.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So I was like, they can't both be open for forever,
Like that's not how this works. Eventually we have to
either not be open anymore or go our separate ways.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
The issue was that I had no one I was
waiting for she did, and so I it was a
hard thing to manage because I was like, I want
to like give her that sace, but go figure it
out though, like the seft wasting time, so.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
You probably can't freaking Tyler and Tanner just come down
and take this gir on to date already so we
can like get over this kind of hurdle that seems inevitable.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
The other the other shoes her friends were you know,
ended up or you know, Mercedes with Tyler, so like
she didn't want step the most told you, I completely
get that, So it was prolonging it. I was like, listen,
like you need but for us, Like I understand your friends,
but for us, you need to go and do that.
You have to or we're going to get nowhere.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, that's so, that's that's a tough situation to be
in because you're almost like you want to pursue this
girl one hundred percent, but then you also you can't
because you'll potentially scare her and then you like her,
but then you're pushing her to like go date other people,
So then that puts you in just a shitty spot.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Really, I really just thought she'd come around eventually, like
and I thought it was gonna be earlier like that
she was going to be like, I know, like let's
do it. It just kept like I think that's what
kind of I shelled up. Essentially shelled out because when
I was like, what do I need to prove to
her for her to like know this? You know what
I mean? Like, so I started shelling up not being
as fun. I was like, kay, I didn't know how
(12:13):
to maneuver with her because she wasn't fully into it,
and she wasn't fully into it. I just kind of like,
I don't know, I shelled up.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, yeah, I like I'm getting insecure.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Like, yeah, I would get insecure too.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I'd be like, I like you, what's it gonna take.
What do I gotta do for you to be all
into me? And I've been into it for a while
and you're not there, I'd feel you got a little
bit like insecure.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
There was a really interesting point where you know, it
was clearly like I was almost having more fun with
like her friends and the other girls there just because
there was I wasn't trying to prove any to them
and I could be more loose and like I just
never felt that for a while with Jefs, and I
felt uptight because I was just like I didn't know
how to maneuver, and like because I wasn't feeling fully accepted.
(12:59):
So I was like it was I just wasn't able
to lose nothing have fun until later in the season.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And then okay, so Genevieve comes down and you get
a chance to explore someone else, go on a date.
The date goes really well, but then what happens, like
why go back to Jess because she's not all in
And did you know while you were on that date,
(13:24):
Jess and Tyler kissed? What happened there?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay? So yeah, so obviously Jen comes down and.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Then I'm sorry not to cut you off. I've been
trying to figure.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Out this just timely, yes about this just its.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Like no one even cares anymore. Shut the fuck up
to myself, but I keep I feel like.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That were like really dying to close and you have
that makes that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Makes full sense. So Jen came down. It was honestly
perfect time, any sense, because the night before I said, Jess,
you've got to do your thing tomorrow, so go take
your space, and so that out. And then when Jen
came down and asked me on the date. I was like, Hey, well,
this is going to be the best opportunity. I'm not
going to be here. I don't have to watch the shit.
I can bring in some adversity to this and see
(14:09):
how you feel when I'm gone. I can see how
I feel when I'm out on that date, knowing that
you're doing your thing back beach, and that'll initiates some movement,
good or bad. It'll initiate something. So I had a
great time with Jen, and honestly, during the date, like
I wasn't really Jen was great, so I wasn't really
thinking about Yess during the date, But as soon as
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things started wrapping up, we started thinking about everything that
was going on, and so when I came back, I
was really nervous. I actually didn't get to speak to
Jess that night. I saw her very briefly, but she
was kind of just wrapped up in the kind of
set and so I didn't get to see her till
the next day, and so I remember panicking a little
bit because I also didn't know what she got up
to that day. So I was like went to bed,
like freaking out a little bit.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
When you came back that night, did you have a
decision about like what you wanted to do with your
little love triangle?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I was veering one way, but I knew I needed
to sleep on it, okay, and that way it was veering.
I was like, it was like veering Jet, Like if
I did make a moment of decision that moment, I
was still gonna pick Jess. But Jen really did make
me think, this is how I explain to people. Jen
(15:22):
made sense in my head in terms of like she
was coming and she was super into it, wanted to
go forward with it, but like Jess, Like my heart
was making decisions for Jess, but my my brain would
have made the decisions for Jen, because Jess wasn't necessarily
giving me the things that I needed. And my practical
brain was saying, Jen makes more sense here, but my
heart was saying, Jess, you followed your heart, Blake.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But you've also spent so much more time with Jess,
Like it would have had to have been like sparks flying.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I feel like for you to have left that to
go towards Jen.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
So the next day you wake up and you have
to talk to Jess.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, I mean yeah, So the next they is rose,
So I don't see her obviously through the day, so
I knew that I knew that she was probably panicking
a little bit too, and not knowing where my head
was that going into, you know, I had the roses
that day, and again knowing that like, she's very much
in her head, she's an overst thinker, she's sensitive and things.
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I got to talk to Tyler that day, so I
hadn't understanding but where Tyler's head was at, And so
I didn't know that they had should have kiss at
that moment, but I could. I knew that they had chatted,
and I knew that he was still very much in
student Mercedes and that's where his rose was going to go.
And so at least that gave me a little bit
(16:43):
of like, well, forgoether she wants it or not, she's not,
He's he's interested in Mercedes. So it gave me a
little bit of a good feeling. Anyways, And were.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
You happy to hear that they like chatted and there
was like some exploration done on her and like would
you have been disappointed to come back and find out
that she just like sat on the couch.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
With the Yeah, we're like what are you doing this?
Is we did this for you to go and do that, right?
So yeah, I would have been.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And did you have any did you have any issue
with Tyler personally for making a move?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay, no, because I because I also knew that it
was needed. Somebody needs to pressing her and like you know,
put her in situations where she could feel and figure
out if if I was something she wanted or not.
So no, so no, I understand that it was needed.
But yeah she was. She was panicking probably that day,
not knowing if the rose is coming or not. Because
she also, unless she talked to Jen probably honestly would
have just said I was super in a blake and
(17:32):
it was you know, it went well and we had
a great time because we really did, so it might
have you know, freaked out a little bit going to
the rosy.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay. So so then you guys have a conversation that
night and you both like it's you flirt with the
idea like you both like still like want to pursue
each other.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, so we so little side note, I gave her
a note earlier that day. I slipped it to another
girl to give it to her that she so she
felt a little like calmer going in because I know
she was panicking, so she probably had an idea that,
you know, it was going to go her way that night.
So when we sat down, I think she was more
calm than she would have been if I didn't tried
(18:20):
to like help her calmer nerves with that little note
going into the night. So we said, you know what
she it was on a little like coffee like cardboard
coffee thing. I forget exactly what it said, but essentially
it was like I essentially told her I was like
thinking about her all day and like I don't want
you to worry about something like the great about tonight
or whatever it was to calmer. And then yeah, we
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had that conversation, and I think she knew that it
was going to be a good one just from my end.
And I was curious, honestly, just to see where she
was coming from her conversation, because she didn't know necessary
that I talked to Tyler that day and that Tyler
wasn't gonna necess give her the rose. So I was
waiting to see how she approached that conversation.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Are you wondering if she was going to tell you
or not, or were you like confident she was going
to bring it up.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I we had a very honest, transparent relationship and all
the way through for the most part, So I, yeah,
she would have told me, and she did.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, and she told you that, like they kissed and
what was kind of the story there.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
She she was very transparent both times. When she did
eventually talk to Ten her a little bit and felt
that out, she didn't feel any connection was there from
you know, the original thought that she she was like
her number one coming down. It just wasn't that a
click wasn't there that she thought, and so she wasn't
interested in that. And then with Tyler, she very much
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was like attracted to him and liked it, but it
wasn't like this what I call how moment where you're like,
oh my god. She wasn't like infatuated or felt like
it was something strong enough to like make a switch
in comparison to what.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
We've So nothing was topping your guys' relationship. Like your
connection with Jen was great. Her time with Tyler was great,
but there was the realization, like what we have is
the strongest.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Right now exactly. Both had like the connections with Tyler
and Jen that were good and like, but they just
stayed good, and there wasn't we were going to pursue
those and breaking what we've built.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
You weren't going to like sacrifice your relationship to pursue
of that thing else not at that point.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
No, Okay, So now you guys, so you choose each other,
you decide to move forward with each other, and now
it seems like you're you know, she explores, you explore,
but it doesn't seem like your your relationship is moving forward.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, that was the constant issue. It just felt like
we were in neutral all the time, like we would
have really great moments, but like I kept saying, like,
let's put the pottle down, like what do we why
are we just cruising? And I just felt like she
was in control of that, and yeah, I can't get
(21:05):
like I'm still I still can't fully grasp it. So
like why we couldn't I think it was she was
very much in her head at that time and like
wavering like I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
You'd have to interview her again at that moment.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But were you guys having like any tough real life
conversations like potentially how would we make this work in
the real world, like things like that.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Distance was a thing for her. She was worried about that,
and I mean, sure, you know something, but I travel
all the time and go through forth like you know,
once a month essentially, So like no, I kept saying, like,
that's not gonna be an issue. I just we were
having hard conversations, and I think the issue was is
that I think at the beginning you could have fun,
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loose conversations and then it's supposed to get more serious,
and we did the opposite. Like we were having some
like serious conversation in the beginning, and then as things
were going, she was wanting to see more of a playful,
fun side. But because she wasn't accepting of me, and
I didn't feel accepted in a way, I was like
shelled up and it was only just having serious stuff
like trying to figure out what it was. It was
(22:10):
nice and as time went it was like we this
is at the end, is where you have the serious conversations.
But she wanted to have the fun stuff. I'm like,
we can't do the fun stuff. We can need to
like figure this out, and I don't accept it. So
like I'm bottled up.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'm not really loose, so like it just yeah, You're like,
I don't want to like flirt with you right now.
I want to know if you're committed to me. And
she's like, I want you to flirt with me so
that I can commit to you.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, I was just very long, honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Okay, So then so then why not drop your ex
fiance down on the beach. So Katie, Katie Thurriston shows up.
But it, I mean, so we don't we what we
see is that you end up pulling Jess at the
end of the row ceremony and the episode ends. But
it did seem like you got a little more clarity
(22:55):
when you did talk to Katie, So you want to
just break down that conversation with her.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Mm hmm. So up until Katy Kbri were having a
good day, Justine and things were like looking up. It
was like the fun and stuff that like I know
that she was trying to look for and shout up
a little bit. And then of course, yeah Katie walks out,
and you know what's what's so funny is I totally
(23:20):
it was so far into the scenes at that point
that I, you know, nearly thought like the show bringing
her in maybe, but like it was so far in
that I thought that was not gonna happen anymore. And
so I was completely off my mind completely. And so
I remember sitting up in that in that what do
you call we're all the we will all sit And
I remember sitting there and I've had a few drinks
(23:42):
that day and thinking that nothing was gonna.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Happen, and there's so many places you are sitting the table, peop.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Will come up and like the main bar thing.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
What do you I guess there isn't a name for
that area. I guess the pool.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And I had a couple drinks that day, and I
remember like looking around. Every camera was pointing at me,
and I'm like, what was going on?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's a terrible bad sign.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And then you know, Katie has this very distinct like hello,
and I heard it coming up the stairs and I
was like whoa. And then I looked at my right
and she was there, and I was just like what
the fuck? And I just like so many thoughts. I
knew she was gonna pull me right away. Obviously everyone
was staring at me. I just and then it just happened,
(24:38):
and uh, that conversation I was not prepared for, which
I think was a good thing because she was very raw.
But I was like looking like a ghost. I remember
staring at her and she was saying things as I
was like, what are you doing here? You know?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Do you? Did you? Did you? Do you feel like
after that conversation with Katie, like you you didn't feel
any thing romantic towards her, did you?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
No? I didn't. I wouldn't say romantic, but I remember
feeling emotional, like I remember feeling like this last time
it was just a lot, like soaking in a lot
the same time. I remember just like like good memories
right when you see them. It was like a good
memories thing with her, Like I wasn't thinking about bad
and so it was like an emotional thing, especially hashing
(25:22):
all that out, bring up all these things. It wasn't romantic,
but it was like an emotional like yeah, feeling for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, it's like a heavy memory because you have so
much history with this person and you obviously haven't talked
to them, so.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That last times are in person was you know, it wasn't.
It wasn't great in San Diego, but last time that
we were together, that we broke up, you know, through FaceTime,
and so like the last physical moment I had with
her was good and so like just interesting to see
her again, like that.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Was there. Was she at all giving like hey, maybe
we should try again.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Or or no, not a tone that I took in
that moment. I felt that she was certainly like happy
to see me and happy to be there and happy
to you know, have that conversation. And maybe that could
have sparked something, but I didn't feel like she was
there to like necessarily pursue me or anything. I didn't
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feel like that in that moment.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
No, Okay, so you have you have the conversation with her,
you guys, you know, you walk away, where's your head now?
With Jess?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So I think Casius Day of course they're graded make
me feel that way.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh yeah, because she doesn't say that she's about to host.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That, and she's like she's single as far as anyone knows,
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So I'm just thinking she's actually here to do do
the thing. And I'm like, so, the first off, the
worst thing, because I know it's going to mess up
the that situation. We're already having our issues, and like
I'm thinking about what Jess is potentially thinking. But I'm hoping,
like Jess, like just sort your sort your That's where
I need you to sort out your ship because I
got a lot going on now, you know what I mean, Like,
this is where I need you to come in, be secure,
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be calm and like not freak.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Oh we know what you mean, we know you, we
know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, so yeah true, so so yeah, so yeah it was. Yeah,
I was. I was worried, but I really like if
she knew, if just knew what she did, know that
Katie was not going to be an issue being on
the beach in that way, it would have liked meet
things difficult, But it wasn't going to change how I
thought about Jess really, but it would have made me.
(27:38):
It definitely did make me think about where I was
at with Jess in comparison to like how I did
things with Katie. And there was a comparison there in
terms of like where we're at, what we were doing
that did that right?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
What we do see you say, She's say in an interview,
I'm not going to get this exactly right, but you
basically say, seeing Katie today and knowing how little time
you spent together, but like how strong the feelings were
really made sense to you and you you get it.
But with Jess, you had so much time and the
(28:09):
feelings still don't really make sense to you, and that's
where you're struggling now. It wasn't as much like, oh,
I'm seeing Katie and I don't know how I feel
about Jess. It was like the comparison of like time
versus like progression of the relationship.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, I just feel like Katie was had less time
essentially to really grasp who I was and was you know,
so in and like knew and then Jess and I
had just so much time, more time, and I just
was still wasn't sure and that was doing and then
also knowing where we need to get to. I knew
it was around the corner of what takes to make
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that type of commitment. And with Jess it was just
like kind of thinking, it's like, we're nowhere near where
we need to be right now. So it was a
real yeah, like how are you getting at that? A
realization is to like how you get to love We
were we weren't near, We just weren't and helped Katie
helped me, you realize that by coming down and like
the emotion.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Of it, it's like a wake up call a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And you're in being in the room with Katie and
just at the same time, now at the rows as
that are you like realizing like do you have more
of a connection with Katie? Is there anything happening with
like being in the room with both of them or
at this point Katie is now like hosting and it's different.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I felt awkward. It naturally felt awkward. Yeah, that's just yeah,
it was more awkward than anything. And yeah, I wasn't
feeling anything necessarily towards Katie at I didn't know because
I knew. I also was like thinking like how is
Jess handling It was more like thinking about what is
(29:51):
Jess thinking about? Like I knew that I was fine,
and I knew that I wasn't, you know, going to
pursue Katie and any capacity, but what is Jess thinking?
How is she managing it? So it was more just
thinking about the show.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Did you ever did you ask did you would you
ask Jess like would you be like, hey, like how
are you handling this? Like where's your head?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I probably could have done I probably could have done
a better job of that. I just was like so
sure that she knew that there was not going to
be a thing there that I should have maybe assumed
and maybe checked in more on that, and but to
(30:28):
be honest, I was just very selfish in that moment.
And I think some of it is understandable, I think,
but yeah, like, yeah, I mean, you're, yeah, just a
lot taking you know, a lot taking a lot. But
I think she knew that, you know, Katie I were
not going to be a thing there.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
So had you guys talked about Katie and just like
your history before that point.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, I would say probably week two. It was essentially
a full breakdown. There's a shot whe we're on a
anyways on a bench and where real cuddling essentially, and
I'm breaking everything down to what all happened and how
so she understood where I was at in my feelings
prior to Katie coming off.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Gotcha Okay, without spoiling too much, where the episode leaves
off is you pull Jess to what looks to be
a serious conversation. We see her say you're making me nervous,
(31:28):
and like, obviously you can't spoil it, but like, I
don't know, what could you tell us about your headspace
in that moment.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And this is this was prior to the ceremonies, the
cocktail party.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, this is the cost.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yeah, the cocktail party. So we've seen the roast, and
now we're at the cocktail.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Party and everyone's kind of like, oh, they're about to
have a serious.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
And everyone's having like meltdowns after this roast. So it's
looking like it's looking like you were about to have
the break up, the breakout conversation with Jess, if there's
going to be one, or a very serious conversation about
the state of your relationship.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah. So I think that the best way to try
to explain it is that the roast. The roast was
not a good thing for Jess and I. We definitely
had our difficulties with that, and there are some jokes
said that kind of rocked the boat for Jess. So
she was not in the best headspace coming out of
that roast and was not happy just in general about
the day situation with Katie in general, and then some
(32:27):
things that triggered her in the in the roast.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
And so yeah, because we see you ask for like,
are you sure you're okay, and she's like I'm fine,
like basically leave me alone, Like she's obviously god okay,
but she's like doesn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, so yeah, exactly, there's some things that she wasn't
happy about. Both on my end she wasn't happy about,
and then she had jokes that also triggered her on
top of everything else. So she definitely wasn't in a
great place. At the end of the night after roast,
we were not in a good place. I remember walking
away being very frustrated and just like what I'm what
is happening? Yeah? So yeah, the next day, waking up,
(33:00):
I just knew that it was going to be a
pivot conversation that we need to have the direction it
was going to go in. I had an idea. Did
I think that it could potentially be turned around based
on responses and you know her having a data fully
grasped and think about everything that went on. Yeah, yeah,
that conversation is definitely a pivotal want to leave it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That okay, Yeah, that's that's what we assume, and then.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We have to ask before we're going to do a
little game with you.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
But we've seen a lot of like social media sturing
the pod or I don't know what you want to
call it. With you and Katie, it looked like she
was at like some event you had. There's been some
photos posted. I literally had a friend text me and
be like, are Blak and Katie dating?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Like, I'm so confused, what's happening? Do you want to
comment on that?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Role? So Eils, I mean you'll see with well you
saw with the episode. It was a very cordial, mutual,
mature conversation that allowed us to like essentially connected in
the outside world, but a very friendly manner to the
point where now it just feels truly just supportive. It's
(34:12):
like she bounces off to hears I mean she's going
on on that other show. We're able to connect the
outside world in a way that like you should have
a healthy or can have a healthy relationship with an
X that's good. And so that's where that is. And
so when the event was happening in San Diego, I
was going to invite her, especially with some of the
other Bachelor folks coming, and so yeah, it was a
(34:36):
lot of fun that night and glad she came and
it was Yeah, it was it was a good support
because I think prior to our relationship a lot of
that thing maybe rock the boat a little thing a
little bit, and I think it there's a little bitspite
there with me traveling a lot and not be able
to spend as much time as we maybe liked, and
so her coming around in another sense and really supporting
that work now is a really nice and appreciative thing.
(34:59):
That Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Nice, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
So mature. Okay, Blake, let's play a game rappid fire
questions you ready?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Are you more of an introvert or extrovert?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Introvert?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I don't know if I buy that, Dude, really I
buy that. I mean, pol might have say, but just
being a being out with you, I just feel like
you're you're more of an extra people.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Right, Introverts use alcohol to like help in those social
settings because I'm not a social butterfly and that alcohol
helps me so and every time we see each other,
I'm usually at least five tequila's in, right, So.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah that's surprising. But but
you're very personal, like even right now, like you come
on this podcast, you don't really have any hesitation.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I would argue Joe that you're partially an introvert. Ye,
you're quite an interest, but you're still social.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, i'd say we're probably similar. Okay, I should have
just kept my mouth shut. I apologize. Well, what would
be what would be your go to paradise cocktail?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Tequila, soda online and shock nice?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Now, what is the first thing you would buy if
you won the lottery?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh, land for like in a sanctuary, like an exotic sanctuary.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
What is your go to pump up song?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh? Man, Oh, it's something with the training. I'm terrible
with music, dude. Uh train and vein as that was
the vein and train. I don't know. Sorry, terrible music
is one thing I suck at.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
That's fine. This question, I think this question makes you
curious to hear what you say. What is one item
on your bucket list?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh, I want to go up to North North Canada,
like eat like seal blubber and see how it's like,
and see how they live up there and like igloos
and actually do the Canada that you think is what
every Canadian.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Is seal blubber.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, like you know how they they literally live out
up in the middle of nowhere and do they really
live off the land, And it's like, yeah, I want
to do that. I want to do an extreme thing
like that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I would maybe do that with no.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You wouldn't you do it?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Day could be like is there four seasons up here?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'm good in the court?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Okay, do you have any Do you have any dating
deal breakers?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Mm? Hmmm dating deal breakers? Not really, man, I'm pretty
I mean, there's bread flags for sure, but like a
deal breaker dating like I would want to date you me.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Like I wouldn't date someone if they like weren't willing
to move to Canada, or if they were like rude
to wait.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Staff or in your face.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
What an example.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Not really, man, I'm pretty accepting.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
What if they hated animals and they were.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Animals, if they had like no, if if I educated
them on the things that I'm passionate with that make
a lot of sense and they were ignorant to those
after the fact and didn't, then yeah, that would that
would really throw me off.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
What is your favorite place in the whole world?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I don't want to say my college, but like my
cottage probably, or or Kenya probably.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
My grandparents are from Kenya.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Oh yeah, actually, yeah, you haven't been.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
I'm really glad. We I'm really glad we had it
this question on here?
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Wait, where's your cottage, Blake, It's like our month of
bell the Kingston. What lake is it on?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
You wouldn't know at Mississauga on It's in Lando Lakes
Region near Bonnetti Provincial Park.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
If you could go on any other reality.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Show, easy, there's a couple uh naked and afraid. There
is a challenge, self challenge and.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Joe literally just choked about going to that show.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Or like alone, like something where it's a self challenge
like out in the Woods probably or like Special Forces
would be cool too, because I think I do do
it on that, but like something like that.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
What is your love language?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Uh? Physical touch? Probably quality time?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Favorite dessert?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I look like I look like a simple carrot cake, Joe.
I like something simple like that.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Care I thought you're gonna take a twenty ingredient cake.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I never wake it, but like, yeah, oh interesting, I
didn't know.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Yeah, I know care cake always kind of like shave
the carrots.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
That takes some time.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I mean, I'm I'm also a fan of a simple
I like a simple chocolate cake too. Most important item
to pack for paradise.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Mhm uh for me, it's my my, like my this
is this is important to me. I need to keep
this so like a beer trimmer, like I need to
need to be a certain So okay.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
If you can live as an animal, what animal would
it be?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
A loon? What a loon?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
A loon?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah? Do you know what that is?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I don't think you would know what that is.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Well, just play this, play their noise that they make, right,
and it might trigger, it might trigger.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Do you know what a looney is?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
A looney? Yeah, like a looney tune.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
So a looney is Canada's one dollar coin and on
it is a loon, which is like it's like it's
a bird. Okay, it would be similar, ask to like
a goose or a like geese.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
But it's yeah, like waterfowl. They swim their elegant there,
prettynic iconic. You will send you a link after you'll know.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Exactly you guys don't have to all right, Uh, thank you, Blake,
thank you so much for coming on, thanks for having me,
and thank you to everyone for tuning in. And remember
no new episodes of Golden Bachelor or Bachelor in Paradise
this week, but make sure to tune in November thirtieth
for the live finale of Golden Bachler followed by a
(41:09):
new episode of Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
And even though there's no new TV episodes this week,
we'll still have new episodes of Bachelor Happy Hours, so
make sure to tune in because we have something a
very special plan for you all.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Thanks again everyone, and see you next time.
Hey, everyone, welcome back to bats for Happy Hour. I'm
Serena and Joe and we are here with none of that.
Blake Moyin's from Batchelor in Paradise. So happy Blake, you
could be here.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I think it's due your unhappy.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Mm hmmm probably probably when.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
For a finale.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Right, it's been two years. Yeah, welcome back.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
I had we had Blake on Clickbait. Yeah, I remember
that was a good episode. We really got into the wildlife,
your whole. I remember you asked me to go on
one of those trips but I backed out.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
What about you? Could you do the whale one?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
What? What did it entail?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
There wasn't really much. It's just I just have to
put you in the ocean and I dragged you over
to the whales and just you just need to float
there and just take it off.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Your water, right, Yeah, like you're in there with.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It's voice emerged not yeah, yeah, Like it's just you
and the what's your next one? I go to I
go to Bolivia and the Amazon for six weeks and jaguars, oslats,
spider monkeys and a conas.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Do you have anything that falls under just like a
little more mild, like I don't want to die, Like
I don't want to die. I don't want to get
bit by anything. I don't want poison ivy, I don't
want to get bit by anything.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So so this is interesting, right, Like I was, I
was asked, you know, because it's been it's been girls
that have come with you for the last few Then
the thing is, like I think it takes a specific
project to like have a male come on. You're not
gonna come on and do sea turls with me. It's
just a little hot you know.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Yeah, that's speed. That's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Do you want to come out and have like a
cute little excursion with.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Me doing exactly what you want?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, I would do that. I do that. I would
do I would like I would do like a surfari
and like I'm all down to like see jaguars, but
they like, how close do you get into those?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well this specific Well, so we're going out to try
and find wild ones. We're doing a four day little
trip out into the actual Amazon. But then I'm working
with a wildlife sanctuary that rehabs them. So it's a
jaguar that's taken out of the pet trade and so
it's a rewilding project, so we'll be very close to them,
and it's essentially trying to make it as wild as
possible from being habituated to humans and trying to make
(02:30):
them basically wild again. So yeah, it can be. I've
never done this before. This is the first time we're
going to go do it so dangerous.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
But like more, I feel like jaguars are the scariest
of animals. Like, jaguars are strong, and I think they're
the fastest, right, Like, well.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Cheetahs are the fastest, but jaguars are like you know,
you see them taking out canan and they can take
out essentially anything.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
For the seas, no, no, no, no, it's nowhere here
sure yeah no, yeah, actually penguins is in the Okay,
I can make that.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I think I can make my favorite one that you've
been on.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Uh when I went back into the Kenya thing. I
think we're just so close to big tusker elephants in
a wild setting that that was like the most wild
and real with being able to rangers range of three weeks.
But the whale comes close in the sense of like
I remember being in with my snorkele and the calf
and the mom were coming up real close and they
don't normally have interactions like that, and I remember just
(03:34):
feeling like I'm very out of place and swearing, being like, hoh,
holy fuck, holy fuckuse you're just there's nothing you can
do it in the ocean like that. It's up to
them as to how they want to move around. You
can't get out of the way, really, so I remember
just feeling like part pounding, like there's nothing I can
do here, and just kind of take it in and
thank god these are harmless animals for the most part,
(03:55):
because yeah, so that was the second closest.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Dream vulnerability.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, I think that's what I chase, right.
I like that, Like, there's not a lot really, you know,
works me up, but animal encounters like that.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, let's get let's get into the show. But keep
me in mind for penguins because I like penguins. Okay,
I'll do so, Blake, Blake, Blake, Where should we start.
Let's start with let's start from the beginning. You coming down,
who were you interested in? Were you hesitant at all?
(04:33):
Were you excited? What's up?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I think this is the first time. I wasn't like
overly excited, wasn't nervous either. I think doing this a
couple of times, there's there was nerves, but like I
knew how it kind of worked. For the most part.
I came in very open minded, but like you know,
you're always asked, like what this list. Everyone talks about
this list from experience coming on like really headstrong for
(04:59):
Clear and really heads for Katie. Like I really wanted
to come in with like just no expectations, loosen up
a little bit and just kind of see what happens.
But I did say, you know, okay, like Jess's cue,
kat was cute. I felt like Ariel was coming, and
there are some people that I visually thought were attractive.
It was a cure scene. But I really didn't dive
into much more than that. So that was kind of
(05:19):
the look coming down, Okay, I think that that all.
I was more curious. I was more curious. I wasn't
excited or anything. I was just curious about what it looked.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, So then it seems like you really it's just
like kind of you and Jess are hanging out at
the beginning, and it seems like you're starting to you like,
form a relationship. Let's talk about the beginning part of
your relationship with Jess.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Yeah, what was that like?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Uh, it was kind of surprising. I think it was
she made it. What I was attracted with her was
this this calm, like sweet like it was almost like
in dear. You could tell that she was nervous to
be there, and I kind of attracted to that. It.
(06:08):
You know, we kissed the first time we we spoke,
and that kind of almost set me off in a sense,
like I felt like I needed like to be careful
with that. You could tell that she was super sensitive.
And I remember walking away and going to sit down
with the rest of the people in that group and
after that and feeling really excited about the start of that.
But I also was like nervousness sense as to how
I would manage that relationship because I had like almost
(06:32):
a protective feeling about it. You could tell that she
was could be vulnerable or be upset, like she is
a sense of person you could do that through that.
So when I kissed her, you know, it is a gesture.
It is a gesture that you're into somebody, and I
didn't and I want to be protective of that, and
I think that kind of I wouldn't say I shouldn't
(06:53):
have had that mindset, but like I think I gravitated
to her because I felt some type of I don't know, commitment.
I don't know, Like when I make a gesture like that,
you felt did you feel you.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Felt the gesture meant something? And because you felt like
it meant a lot to her, there was a level
of commitment to her now exactly so that it wasn't
just like, you know, a nothing kiss. It was like,
you know, I'm excited about this. I feel like that
probably meant something to her, and I want to be
respectful of her feelings.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So now you know we're going.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
To move forward here, because she definitely doesn't come off
as one that just like throws a kiss around like that,
and you can see how she kind of handles that
the rest of the season. She just not wanted that.
So when I'm making a gesture like that, first off,
I meant it, but I wanted to be protective of that,
protective of her. She just like gives that off. You
know what I mean, did you you want to hurt.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Did you have that conversation with her like what you're
saying to us?
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yes, So, I mean she knew that I was very
much interned. I told her pretty well right off the top.
There was no one currently on the beach. That was
overly like a check to where I wanted to, you know,
ruin what we had. I also understand there's a time
limit being experienced as I am. So it was like,
unless somebody comes down that really blows me away. Yes,
(08:10):
I'm hoping to explore it, but there's nobody currently here,
and so I wanted to protect that in that moment.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Okay, So then when she so and she I forget
where I think it's like a bonfire or wherever it
goes down one of the truth circles or whatever. You
guys played so many games, and Jess kind of opens
up about like you not necessarily being heard or you
being her number one right now, but like if somebody
(08:37):
came in, were you shocked to hear that?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Oh yeah, that was truth or dare Yeah, So there's the.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Truth circle where like it was so early that I
feel like you're like both you alluded to like you
know it's going good. We'll see what happens. And then
once truth or dare hit were a little later on
and someone's like, Jess is Blake, You're number one, and
she's like, yeah, he's my number one on this beach
right now.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah. So I think that the issue was is that
Jess was very open about who she was potentially interested
in seeing, which was Tyler and Tanner were like the
ones that were the focal point, and before they came down,
I knew that that was going to eventually be a thing.
I had a feeling that they are probably going to come,
and so by Anders, I also could tell that she
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was like struggling and very unsure with me and like
knowing that they were potentially coming. So I was very
aware of that and was like very just calm and
understood that where it became where it became tricky was
I could tell that, like, I, how do I explain this?
(09:46):
When I sat down with her and told her remember
the scene where we were crying or she was crying
and she walked away, there was a struggle there. I
knew that there was no one on that beature. I
wasn't waiting for anyone to come down, so my focus
was on her, but knowing how open and she was,
like I still want to explore. I still want to explore,
even though.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I you still want to play a little, you still
want to play a little hard to get because but yes.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
But at the same time, I also as much as
I wasn't open, I kept telling her yet, like I'm open,
I'm open up because she was very uncomfortable with that
whole topic. So it was almost trying to make her
more comfortable saying I'm also like, I'm good, Like, do
your thing, I'm open too, because if I closed off
right away in the beginning, it's like I just want
you to have more pressure on her to like you
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don't want to scare her. I was calmer and more
like do your thing. I'm going to be good short
out your shift though, and so I was trying to
help her. Just came a point where I'm like, i'd
be locked in right now if you were telling me
you weren't waiting for anybody. Yeah, I had to eventually
say that.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So I was like, they can't both be open for forever,
Like that's not how this works. Eventually we have to
either not be open anymore or go our separate ways.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
The issue was that I had no one I was
waiting for she did, and so I it was a
hard thing to manage because I was like, I want
to like give her that sace, but go figure it
out though, like the seft wasting time, so.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
You probably can't freaking Tyler and Tanner just come down
and take this gir on to date already so we
can like get over this kind of hurdle that seems inevitable.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
The other the other shoes her friends were you know,
ended up or you know, Mercedes with Tyler, so like
she didn't want step the most told you, I completely
get that, So it was prolonging it. I was like, listen,
like you need but for us, Like I understand your friends,
but for us, you need to go and do that.
You have to or we're going to get nowhere.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, that's so, that's that's a tough situation to be
in because you're almost like you want to pursue this
girl one hundred percent, but then you also you can't
because you'll potentially scare her and then you like her,
but then you're pushing her to like go date other people,
So then that puts you in just a shitty spot.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Really, I really just thought she'd come around eventually, like
and I thought it was gonna be earlier like that
she was going to be like, I know, like let's
do it. It just kept like I think that's what
kind of I shelled up. Essentially shelled out because when
I was like, what do I need to prove to
her for her to like know this? You know what
I mean? Like, so I started shelling up not being
as fun. I was like, kay, I didn't know how
(12:13):
to maneuver with her because she wasn't fully into it,
and she wasn't fully into it. I just kind of like,
I don't know, I shelled up.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, yeah, I like I'm getting insecure.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Like, yeah, I would get insecure too.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
I'd be like, I like you, what's it gonna take.
What do I gotta do for you to be all
into me? And I've been into it for a while
and you're not there, I'd feel you got a little
bit like insecure.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
There was a really interesting point where you know, it
was clearly like I was almost having more fun with
like her friends and the other girls there just because
there was I wasn't trying to prove any to them
and I could be more loose and like I just
never felt that for a while with Jefs, and I
felt uptight because I was just like I didn't know
how to maneuver, and like because I wasn't feeling fully accepted.
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So I was like it was I just wasn't able
to lose nothing have fun until later in the season.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
And then okay, so Genevieve comes down and you get
a chance to explore someone else, go on a date.
The date goes really well, but then what happens, like
why go back to Jess because she's not all in
And did you know while you were on that date,
(13:24):
Jess and Tyler kissed? What happened there?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay? So yeah, so obviously Jen comes down and.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Then I'm sorry not to cut you off. I've been
trying to figure.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Out this just timely, yes about this just its.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Like no one even cares anymore. Shut the fuck up
to myself, but I keep I feel like.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
That were like really dying to close and you have
that makes that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Makes full sense. So Jen came down. It was honestly
perfect time, any sense, because the night before I said, Jess,
you've got to do your thing tomorrow, so go take
your space, and so that out. And then when Jen
came down and asked me on the date. I was like, Hey, well,
this is going to be the best opportunity. I'm not
going to be here. I don't have to watch the shit.
I can bring in some adversity to this and see
(14:09):
how you feel when I'm gone. I can see how
I feel when I'm out on that date, knowing that
you're doing your thing back beach, and that'll initiates some movement,
good or bad. It'll initiate something. So I had a
great time with Jen, and honestly, during the date, like
I wasn't really Jen was great, so I wasn't really
thinking about Yess during the date, But as soon as
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things started wrapping up, we started thinking about everything that
was going on, and so when I came back, I
was really nervous. I actually didn't get to speak to
Jess that night. I saw her very briefly, but she
was kind of just wrapped up in the kind of
set and so I didn't get to see her till
the next day, and so I remember panicking a little
bit because I also didn't know what she got up
to that day. So I was like went to bed,
like freaking out a little bit.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
When you came back that night, did you have a
decision about like what you wanted to do with your
little love triangle?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I was veering one way, but I knew I needed
to sleep on it, okay, and that way it was veering.
I was like, it was like veering Jet, Like if
I did make a moment of decision that moment, I
was still gonna pick Jess. But Jen really did make
me think, this is how I explain to people. Jen
(15:22):
made sense in my head in terms of like she
was coming and she was super into it, wanted to
go forward with it, but like Jess, Like my heart
was making decisions for Jess, but my my brain would
have made the decisions for Jen, because Jess wasn't necessarily
giving me the things that I needed. And my practical
brain was saying, Jen makes more sense here, but my
heart was saying, Jess, you followed your heart, Blake.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
But you've also spent so much more time with Jess,
Like it would have had to have been like sparks flying.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I feel like for you to have left that to
go towards Jen.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
So the next day you wake up and you have
to talk to Jess.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, I mean yeah, So the next they is rose,
So I don't see her obviously through the day, so
I knew that I knew that she was probably panicking
a little bit too, and not knowing where my head
was that going into, you know, I had the roses
that day, and again knowing that like, she's very much
in her head, she's an overst thinker, she's sensitive and things.
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I got to talk to Tyler that day, so I
hadn't understanding but where Tyler's head was at, And so
I didn't know that they had should have kiss at
that moment, but I could. I knew that they had chatted,
and I knew that he was still very much in
student Mercedes and that's where his rose was going to go.
And so at least that gave me a little bit
(16:43):
of like, well, forgoether she wants it or not, she's not,
He's he's interested in Mercedes. So it gave me a
little bit of a good feeling. Anyways, And were.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
You happy to hear that they like chatted and there
was like some exploration done on her and like would
you have been disappointed to come back and find out
that she just like sat on the couch.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
With the Yeah, we're like what are you doing this?
Is we did this for you to go and do that, right?
So yeah, I would have been.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And did you have any did you have any issue
with Tyler personally for making a move?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Okay, no, because I because I also knew that it
was needed. Somebody needs to pressing her and like you know,
put her in situations where she could feel and figure
out if if I was something she wanted or not.
So no, so no, I understand that it was needed.
But yeah she was. She was panicking probably that day,
not knowing if the rose is coming or not. Because
she also, unless she talked to Jen probably honestly would
have just said I was super in a blake and
(17:32):
it was you know, it went well and we had
a great time because we really did, so it might
have you know, freaked out a little bit going to
the rosy.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay. So so then you guys have a conversation that
night and you both like it's you flirt with the
idea like you both like still like want to pursue
each other.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, so we so little side note, I gave her
a note earlier that day. I slipped it to another
girl to give it to her that she so she
felt a little like calmer going in because I know
she was panicking, so she probably had an idea that,
you know, it was going to go her way that night.
So when we sat down, I think she was more
calm than she would have been if I didn't tried
(18:20):
to like help her calmer nerves with that little note
going into the night. So we said, you know what
she it was on a little like coffee like cardboard
coffee thing. I forget exactly what it said, but essentially
it was like I essentially told her I was like
thinking about her all day and like I don't want
you to worry about something like the great about tonight
or whatever it was to calmer. And then yeah, we
(18:42):
had that conversation, and I think she knew that it
was going to be a good one just from my end.
And I was curious, honestly, just to see where she
was coming from her conversation, because she didn't know necessary
that I talked to Tyler that day and that Tyler
wasn't gonna necess give her the rose. So I was
waiting to see how she approached that conversation.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Are you wondering if she was going to tell you
or not, or were you like confident she was going
to bring it up.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I we had a very honest, transparent relationship and all
the way through for the most part, So I, yeah,
she would have told me, and she did.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Yeah, and she told you that, like they kissed and
what was kind of the story there.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
She she was very transparent both times. When she did
eventually talk to Ten her a little bit and felt
that out, she didn't feel any connection was there from
you know, the original thought that she she was like
her number one coming down. It just wasn't that a
click wasn't there that she thought, and so she wasn't
interested in that. And then with Tyler, she very much
(19:45):
was like attracted to him and liked it, but it
wasn't like this what I call how moment where you're like,
oh my god. She wasn't like infatuated or felt like
it was something strong enough to like make a switch
in comparison to what.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
We've So nothing was topping your guys' relationship. Like your
connection with Jen was great. Her time with Tyler was great,
but there was the realization, like what we have is
the strongest.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Right now exactly. Both had like the connections with Tyler
and Jen that were good and like, but they just
stayed good, and there wasn't we were going to pursue
those and breaking what we've built.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
You weren't going to like sacrifice your relationship to pursue
of that thing else not at that point.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
No, Okay, So now you guys, so you choose each other,
you decide to move forward with each other, and now
it seems like you're you know, she explores, you explore,
but it doesn't seem like your your relationship is moving forward.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, that was the constant issue. It just felt like
we were in neutral all the time, like we would
have really great moments, but like I kept saying, like,
let's put the pottle down, like what do we why
are we just cruising? And I just felt like she
was in control of that, and yeah, I can't get
(21:05):
like I'm still I still can't fully grasp it. So
like why we couldn't I think it was she was
very much in her head at that time and like
wavering like I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
You'd have to interview her again at that moment.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
But were you guys having like any tough real life
conversations like potentially how would we make this work in
the real world, like things like that.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Distance was a thing for her. She was worried about that,
and I mean, sure, you know something, but I travel
all the time and go through forth like you know,
once a month essentially, So like no, I kept saying, like,
that's not gonna be an issue. I just we were
having hard conversations, and I think the issue was is
that I think at the beginning you could have fun,
(21:49):
loose conversations and then it's supposed to get more serious,
and we did the opposite. Like we were having some
like serious conversation in the beginning, and then as things
were going, she was wanting to see more of a playful,
fun side. But because she wasn't accepting of me, and
I didn't feel accepted in a way, I was like
shelled up and it was only just having serious stuff
like trying to figure out what it was. It was
(22:10):
nice and as time went it was like we this
is at the end, is where you have the serious conversations.
But she wanted to have the fun stuff. I'm like,
we can't do the fun stuff. We can need to
like figure this out, and I don't accept it. So
like I'm bottled up.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'm not really loose, so like it just yeah, You're like,
I don't want to like flirt with you right now.
I want to know if you're committed to me. And
she's like, I want you to flirt with me so
that I can commit to you.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah, I was just very long, honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Okay, So then so then why not drop your ex
fiance down on the beach. So Katie, Katie Thurriston shows up.
But it, I mean, so we don't we what we
see is that you end up pulling Jess at the
end of the row ceremony and the episode ends. But
it did seem like you got a little more clarity
(22:55):
when you did talk to Katie, So you want to
just break down that conversation with her.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Mm hmm. So up until Katy Kbri were having a
good day, Justine and things were like looking up. It
was like the fun and stuff that like I know
that she was trying to look for and shout up
a little bit. And then of course, yeah Katie walks out,
and you know what's what's so funny is I totally
(23:20):
it was so far into the scenes at that point
that I, you know, nearly thought like the show bringing
her in maybe, but like it was so far in
that I thought that was not gonna happen anymore. And
so I was completely off my mind completely. And so
I remember sitting up in that in that what do
you call we're all the we will all sit And
I remember sitting there and I've had a few drinks
(23:42):
that day and thinking that nothing was gonna.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Happen, and there's so many places you are sitting the table, peop.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Will come up and like the main bar thing.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
What do you I guess there isn't a name for
that area. I guess the pool.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And I had a couple drinks that day, and I
remember like looking around. Every camera was pointing at me,
and I'm like, what was going on?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
That's a terrible bad sign.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And then you know, Katie has this very distinct like hello,
and I heard it coming up the stairs and I
was like whoa. And then I looked at my right
and she was there, and I was just like what
the fuck? And I just like so many thoughts. I
knew she was gonna pull me right away. Obviously everyone
was staring at me. I just and then it just happened,
(24:38):
and uh, that conversation I was not prepared for, which
I think was a good thing because she was very raw.
But I was like looking like a ghost. I remember
staring at her and she was saying things as I
was like, what are you doing here? You know?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Do you? Did you? Did you? Do you feel like
after that conversation with Katie, like you you didn't feel
any thing romantic towards her, did you?
Speaker 2 (25:02):
No? I didn't. I wouldn't say romantic, but I remember
feeling emotional, like I remember feeling like this last time
it was just a lot, like soaking in a lot
the same time. I remember just like like good memories
right when you see them. It was like a good
memories thing with her, Like I wasn't thinking about bad
and so it was like an emotional thing, especially hashing
(25:22):
all that out, bring up all these things. It wasn't romantic,
but it was like an emotional like yeah, feeling for sure.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Yeah, it's like a heavy memory because you have so
much history with this person and you obviously haven't talked
to them, so.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
That last times are in person was you know, it wasn't.
It wasn't great in San Diego, but last time that
we were together, that we broke up, you know, through FaceTime,
and so like the last physical moment I had with
her was good and so like just interesting to see
her again, like that.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Was there. Was she at all giving like hey, maybe
we should try again.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Or or no, not a tone that I took in
that moment. I felt that she was certainly like happy
to see me and happy to be there and happy
to you know, have that conversation. And maybe that could
have sparked something, but I didn't feel like she was
there to like necessarily pursue me or anything. I didn't
(26:25):
feel like that in that moment.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
No, Okay, so you have you have the conversation with her,
you guys, you know, you walk away, where's your head now?
With Jess?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So I think Casius Day of course they're graded make
me feel that way.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Oh yeah, because she doesn't say that she's about to host.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That, and she's like she's single as far as anyone knows,
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So I'm just thinking she's actually here to do do
the thing. And I'm like, so, the first off, the
worst thing, because I know it's going to mess up
the that situation. We're already having our issues, and like
I'm thinking about what Jess is potentially thinking. But I'm hoping,
like Jess, like just sort your sort your That's where
I need you to sort out your ship because I
got a lot going on now, you know what I mean, Like,
this is where I need you to come in, be secure,
(27:11):
be calm and like not freak.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Oh we know what you mean, we know you, we
know exactly what you mean.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, so yeah true, so so yeah, so yeah it was. Yeah,
I was. I was worried, but I really like if
she knew, if just knew what she did, know that
Katie was not going to be an issue being on
the beach in that way, it would have liked meet
things difficult, But it wasn't going to change how I
thought about Jess really, but it would have made me.
(27:38):
It definitely did make me think about where I was
at with Jess in comparison to like how I did
things with Katie. And there was a comparison there in
terms of like where we're at, what we were doing
that did that right?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
What we do see you say, She's say in an interview,
I'm not going to get this exactly right, but you
basically say, seeing Katie today and knowing how little time
you spent together, but like how strong the feelings were
really made sense to you and you you get it.
But with Jess, you had so much time and the
(28:09):
feelings still don't really make sense to you, and that's
where you're struggling now. It wasn't as much like, oh,
I'm seeing Katie and I don't know how I feel
about Jess. It was like the comparison of like time
versus like progression of the relationship.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, I just feel like Katie was had less time
essentially to really grasp who I was and was you know,
so in and like knew and then Jess and I
had just so much time, more time, and I just
was still wasn't sure and that was doing and then
also knowing where we need to get to. I knew
it was around the corner of what takes to make
(28:43):
that type of commitment. And with Jess it was just
like kind of thinking, it's like, we're nowhere near where
we need to be right now. So it was a
real yeah, like how are you getting at that? A
realization is to like how you get to love We
were we weren't near, We just weren't and helped Katie
helped me, you realize that by coming down and like
the emotion.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Of it, it's like a wake up call a little bit.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And you're in being in the room with Katie and
just at the same time, now at the rows as
that are you like realizing like do you have more
of a connection with Katie? Is there anything happening with
like being in the room with both of them or
at this point Katie is now like hosting and it's different.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
I felt awkward. It naturally felt awkward. Yeah, that's just yeah,
it was more awkward than anything. And yeah, I wasn't
feeling anything necessarily towards Katie at I didn't know because
I knew. I also was like thinking like how is
Jess handling It was more like thinking about what is
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Jess thinking about? Like I knew that I was fine,
and I knew that I wasn't, you know, going to
pursue Katie and any capacity, but what is Jess thinking?
How is she managing it? So it was more just
thinking about the show.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Did you ever did you ask did you would you
ask Jess like would you be like, hey, like how
are you handling this? Like where's your head?
Speaker 2 (30:08):
I probably could have done I probably could have done
a better job of that. I just was like so
sure that she knew that there was not going to
be a thing there that I should have maybe assumed
and maybe checked in more on that, and but to
(30:28):
be honest, I was just very selfish in that moment.
And I think some of it is understandable, I think,
but yeah, like, yeah, I mean, you're, yeah, just a
lot taking you know, a lot taking a lot. But
I think she knew that, you know, Katie I were
not going to be a thing there.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
So had you guys talked about Katie and just like
your history before that point.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, I would say probably week two. It was essentially
a full breakdown. There's a shot whe we're on a
anyways on a bench and where real cuddling essentially, and
I'm breaking everything down to what all happened and how
so she understood where I was at in my feelings
prior to Katie coming off.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Gotcha Okay, without spoiling too much, where the episode leaves
off is you pull Jess to what looks to be
a serious conversation. We see her say you're making me nervous,
(31:28):
and like, obviously you can't spoil it, but like, I
don't know, what could you tell us about your headspace
in that moment.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And this is this was prior to the ceremonies, the
cocktail party.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, this is the cost.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Yeah, the cocktail party. So we've seen the roast, and
now we're at the cocktail.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Party and everyone's kind of like, oh, they're about to
have a serious.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
And everyone's having like meltdowns after this roast. So it's
looking like it's looking like you were about to have
the break up, the breakout conversation with Jess, if there's
going to be one, or a very serious conversation about
the state of your relationship.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah. So I think that the best way to try
to explain it is that the roast. The roast was
not a good thing for Jess and I. We definitely
had our difficulties with that, and there are some jokes
said that kind of rocked the boat for Jess. So
she was not in the best headspace coming out of
that roast and was not happy just in general about
the day situation with Katie in general, and then some
(32:27):
things that triggered her in the in the roast.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
And so yeah, because we see you ask for like,
are you sure you're okay, and she's like I'm fine,
like basically leave me alone, Like she's obviously god okay,
but she's like doesn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Yeah, so yeah, exactly, there's some things that she wasn't
happy about. Both on my end she wasn't happy about,
and then she had jokes that also triggered her on
top of everything else. So she definitely wasn't in a
great place. At the end of the night after roast,
we were not in a good place. I remember walking
away being very frustrated and just like what I'm what
is happening? Yeah? So yeah, the next day, waking up,
(33:00):
I just knew that it was going to be a
pivot conversation that we need to have the direction it
was going to go in. I had an idea. Did
I think that it could potentially be turned around based
on responses and you know her having a data fully
grasped and think about everything that went on. Yeah, yeah,
that conversation is definitely a pivotal want to leave it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
That okay, Yeah, that's that's what we assume, and then.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We have to ask before we're going to do a
little game with you.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
But we've seen a lot of like social media sturing
the pod or I don't know what you want to
call it. With you and Katie, it looked like she
was at like some event you had. There's been some
photos posted. I literally had a friend text me and
be like, are Blak and Katie dating?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Like, I'm so confused, what's happening? Do you want to
comment on that?
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Role? So Eils, I mean you'll see with well you
saw with the episode. It was a very cordial, mutual,
mature conversation that allowed us to like essentially connected in
the outside world, but a very friendly manner to the
point where now it just feels truly just supportive. It's
(34:12):
like she bounces off to hears I mean she's going
on on that other show. We're able to connect the
outside world in a way that like you should have
a healthy or can have a healthy relationship with an
X that's good. And so that's where that is. And
so when the event was happening in San Diego, I
was going to invite her, especially with some of the
other Bachelor folks coming, and so yeah, it was a
(34:36):
lot of fun that night and glad she came and
it was Yeah, it was it was a good support
because I think prior to our relationship a lot of
that thing maybe rock the boat a little thing a
little bit, and I think it there's a little bitspite
there with me traveling a lot and not be able
to spend as much time as we maybe liked, and
so her coming around in another sense and really supporting
that work now is a really nice and appreciative thing.
(34:59):
That Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Nice, that's great, that's great.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
So mature. Okay, Blake, let's play a game rappid fire
questions you ready?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
All right?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Are you more of an introvert or extrovert?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Introvert?
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I don't know if I buy that, Dude, really I
buy that. I mean, pol might have say, but just
being a being out with you, I just feel like
you're you're more of an extra people.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Right, Introverts use alcohol to like help in those social
settings because I'm not a social butterfly and that alcohol
helps me so and every time we see each other,
I'm usually at least five tequila's in, right, So.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Yeah, I guess that's true. Yeah that's surprising. But but
you're very personal, like even right now, like you come
on this podcast, you don't really have any hesitation.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I would argue Joe that you're partially an introvert. Ye,
you're quite an interest, but you're still social.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, i'd say we're probably similar. Okay, I should have
just kept my mouth shut. I apologize. Well, what would
be what would be your go to paradise cocktail?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Tequila, soda online and shock nice?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Now, what is the first thing you would buy if
you won the lottery?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh, land for like in a sanctuary, like an exotic sanctuary.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
What is your go to pump up song?
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Oh? Man, Oh, it's something with the training. I'm terrible
with music, dude. Uh train and vein as that was
the vein and train. I don't know. Sorry, terrible music
is one thing I suck at.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
That's fine. This question, I think this question makes you
curious to hear what you say. What is one item
on your bucket list?
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Oh, I want to go up to North North Canada,
like eat like seal blubber and see how it's like,
and see how they live up there and like igloos
and actually do the Canada that you think is what
every Canadian.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Is seal blubber.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, like you know how they they literally live out
up in the middle of nowhere and do they really
live off the land, And it's like, yeah, I want
to do that. I want to do an extreme thing
like that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I would maybe do that with no.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
You wouldn't you do it?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Day could be like is there four seasons up here?
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I'm good in the court?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Okay, do you have any Do you have any dating
deal breakers?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Mm? Hmmm dating deal breakers? Not really, man, I'm pretty
I mean, there's bread flags for sure, but like a
deal breaker dating like I would want to date you me.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Like I wouldn't date someone if they like weren't willing
to move to Canada, or if they were like rude
to wait.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Staff or in your face.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
What an example.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Not really, man, I'm pretty accepting.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
What if they hated animals and they were.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Animals, if they had like no, if if I educated
them on the things that I'm passionate with that make
a lot of sense and they were ignorant to those
after the fact and didn't, then yeah, that would that
would really throw me off.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
What is your favorite place in the whole world?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I don't want to say my college, but like my
cottage probably, or or Kenya probably.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
My grandparents are from Kenya.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Oh yeah, actually, yeah, you haven't been.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
I'm really glad. We I'm really glad we had it
this question on here?
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Wait, where's your cottage, Blake, It's like our month of
bell the Kingston. What lake is it on?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
You wouldn't know at Mississauga on It's in Lando Lakes
Region near Bonnetti Provincial Park.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
If you could go on any other reality.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Show, easy, there's a couple uh naked and afraid. There
is a challenge, self challenge and.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Joe literally just choked about going to that show.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Or like alone, like something where it's a self challenge
like out in the Woods probably or like Special Forces
would be cool too, because I think I do do
it on that, but like something like that.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
What is your love language?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Uh? Physical touch? Probably quality time?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Favorite dessert?
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I look like I look like a simple carrot cake, Joe.
I like something simple like that.
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Care I thought you're gonna take a twenty ingredient cake.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I never wake it, but like, yeah, oh interesting, I
didn't know.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Yeah, I know care cake always kind of like shave
the carrots.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
That takes some time.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
I mean, I'm I'm also a fan of a simple
I like a simple chocolate cake too. Most important item
to pack for paradise.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Mhm uh for me, it's my my, like my this
is this is important to me. I need to keep
this so like a beer trimmer, like I need to
need to be a certain So okay.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
If you can live as an animal, what animal would
it be?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
A loon? What a loon?
Speaker 1 (40:06):
A loon?
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah? Do you know what that is?
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I don't think you would know what that is.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Well, just play this, play their noise that they make, right,
and it might trigger, it might trigger.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Do you know what a looney is?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
A looney? Yeah, like a looney tune.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
So a looney is Canada's one dollar coin and on
it is a loon, which is like it's like it's
a bird. Okay, it would be similar, ask to like
a goose or a like geese.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
But it's yeah, like waterfowl. They swim their elegant there,
prettynic iconic. You will send you a link after you'll know.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Exactly you guys don't have to all right, Uh, thank you, Blake,
thank you so much for coming on, thanks for having me,
and thank you to everyone for tuning in. And remember
no new episodes of Golden Bachelor or Bachelor in Paradise
this week, but make sure to tune in November thirtieth
for the live finale of Golden Bachler followed by a
(41:09):
new episode of Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
And even though there's no new TV episodes this week,
we'll still have new episodes of Bachelor Happy Hours, so
make sure to tune in because we have something a
very special plan for you all.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Thanks again everyone, and see you next time.
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