December 24, 2025 • 36 mins
It’s a festive Christmas Eve on “Golden Hour.” Kathy and Susan are getting into holiday traditions, favorite memories, and fun get-to-know-us questions. What holiday would they relive if they could? What past job would surprise you most? Cozy, light, and full of holiday cheer. Tune in and celebrate with us.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hi everyone. Kathy and susn't here. Before we get into
today's episode, just a quick psa. If there are any
young kids around, maybe grab some headphones. We're going to
be talking about some adult things regarding the holidays. All right,
let's get into the episode.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks so
much for joining us today. We are so excited to
be back and so excited about the holiday. Kathy, are
you ready?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I mean, if I'm not, I got about eight hours
left till Santa's coming down the chimney, so you know,
it's really at this point. I truly am done. And
I actually love Christmas Eve. I think I like Christmas
Eve better than Christmas Day because when the kids were young,
we used to go to like a five o'clock service
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with the kids because my kids played piano for the
service and they would turn the lights off and light
candles and sing. So, I don't know, Christmas Eve to
me is just a really beautiful, peaceful time. What about you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I liked giving the kids all one present on Christmas
Eve and it was all matching pajamas. They got one
every year. The dish this morning would be fun.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So did you give them to them this year? Did
you give him to this year?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
No? Because I don't have children live in here.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh so you don't do it for the kids and
the grandkids, the whole family thing. No, you're saying for
the kids to come down Christmas morning. Yes, we you
know what, we never did Christmas gifts the night before.
It was that was that was a you know, you
might as well have just unwrapped them under the tree
and let you know why. But you know what we
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did do every year. We we couldn't wait. So I
don't obviously don't have any young kids at home tonight,
But I missed that tradition too, because when the kids
would go to bed, Daryl and I would we each
bought the kids a gift from Santa Claus and that
went by, we'd fill their stockings. Got to helpe, No
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young kids are listening to this p s A turn
it off. We'd fill the kids stockings and we would
get out the gift.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Each just one gift from Santa.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It was always their big gift, like it was a
bicycle or you know, whatever it was that they really wanted.
It always came from Santa. And to see their faces
was was a man. But I got to tell you
the favorite, and then I'm gonna ask you your favorite
my favorite memory. Do you know the commercials they do
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for Disney World. They give it to the kid on Christmas?
Have you ever seen it on TV? And the kids go, well,
let me tell you what we did. We did it first.
I want the credit. We did it before it was
on Disney World. Whatever. We one year, I think my
oldest son was nine, so it's been nine six and four.
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We bought tickets to take the kids to Disney World,
airline tickets, the whole bit. We wrapped it up and
we didn't give it from Santa Claus. That was Christmas
morning and I'll never forget Douglas, my oldest son, was
really the only one that was could figure out. He's like,
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they're plane tickets and we went, yes, we're going on
an airplane. Where are we going? What does it say?
And we went through the whole thing, and then we
brought out the tickets and the Mickey Mouse thing.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
On the next day.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I think it was like two days later. They if you,
I mean I could cry again think about it. I
get goosebumps. They started crying and screaming really, really, we're
going to do it? Really? Really? It was. It was
one of probably the best Christmas memory? What about you do?
You have the best paper?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But I've known it absolutely. But my plan was whenever
I was taken him, I would never do it more
than three days before they're surprised because they would torture me.
How many more days? How many more this? How many
more this?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Oh no, but I'm saying, what is that you did?
You do it for Christmas as well?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Not on Christmas Day?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
What is your favor?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I've done other trips and given it Christmas Day that
we were leaving in a day or two. Yes, but
it wasn't Disney for that one. But whenever we went,
we went seventeen times. Oh god, I could do Disney.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
What is one of your favorite holiday memories with your family? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
When I would dump the kids with some of their gifts,
I would put clues and I would have them run
all over the house, open the dryer, and I could
hear the boys going, is she's serious in the dryer
and it wasn't there there was another clue, And after
about the fifth when they go, Mom, seriously, oh that's
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cute that we would laugh watching them run everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
We would I would wrap uh gifts in huge big boxes, yes,
or and then rather smaller box and wrap each box
and the same thing. Come on, mom, come on, but
I don't know. Christmas Eve? What do you cook? Like?
This year? You know, I'm eating whatever's in the furgerator.
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But what do you do? Do you do special meals
on Christmas Eve?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I used to do the Seven Fishes, like.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I said, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't When Dicky and I were apart, Dickie would
take the children out every Christmas Eve, and they still
do it. We go to dinner, and they always wanted
to go to the hubachi. Okay for years that is tradition.
And now my sisters they go to the hubbachi and
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Susan's Yellen. This year. I used to join them. Oh yeah,
I'll go, you know. And then I go to my
girlfriend Lottie's for the Seven Fishes.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Wow, well, I don't know. I I remember growing up
some of the Christmas Eves. So my parents were divorced
and we got to spend lots of Christmases with my dad.
And I'll never forget. I couldn't have been more than
seven maybe eight, and we this particular year, we got
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to spend Christmas Eve with my dad and my stepmom
and then he had to bring us back to my
mother's house for you know, that evening for Christmas Day,
and it was a good old Nor'easter snowstorm. Oh my gosh.
I loved it because you know what happened. He tried
to get us there, because under the penalty of death
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by my mother, he tried to get us home, but
it was drifting. We couldn't and we had we couldn't.
We got out of the car and we were literally
they were We were walking back in the snow, trudging
back to their house. And we were all so excited
because we got to spend Christmas with my dad because
it was way more fun. And I'll never forget that memory.
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I don't know that the memories of childhood and the
memories of having children are so different from me. The
Christmas memories, yeah, I'm sorry, No, there wasn't no, I mean,
they were all.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Good ones right from your childhood.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
No, Christmas memories were always good my my my grandmother
was Catholic and I really wanted h.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Do you ever go to the midnight Mass?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I have. I did go to midnight Mass, not anymore.
Tonight I will not be at midnight Mass. I'll be snug.
What is it, I'll be dreaming of sugar bloms in
my head or whatever that one is.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But I'm happy tonight.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm sorry, No, go ahead, I'm just gonna say she want.
I wanted this winter coat, and my grandmother said, if
you if you do the stations of the Cross with me.
I had no idea what that was. It's like there's
twelve or thirteen crosses in a Catholic church. I don't know.
You can school me on that too, And I went lent.
Oh it's lent. Are you sure? Then? Okay, well it
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was something else we did and we had to walk around.
It was a Christmas time and I got that coat
for Christmas from my grandmother in law. You know, I
just remember standing in the church going, okay, you know,
maybe it was lighting twelve candles. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I just you know what I get excited about now.
Of course, I wish I could wake up to the babies.
And that's the whole thing. When the kids stopped believing
it was different. But tonight I don't have to put
anything together. We'd be up till wee hours of the
morning trying to put the things together.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, there is Did you ever put the wrong stuff
in the wrong stocking? We were so tired. Like I said,
but the people have opened gifts.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I go, oh, that's not for you.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
No, But my kids would come down together because our
rule always was on Christmas morning they could open their
stocking and have their gift from sin which wasn't wrapped.
But they couldn't We couldn't open any presence. Remember my
husband was the naval officer rules regulations. There were no
more presents till after everyone had breakfast.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh they you made them way.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Excuse me, excuse me. I just told you the officer, sir, Yes, sir,
permission to come ashore, sir. My husband said that was
that was his tradition. Not only that, susan each person
and we did it my family too, with seven kids.
You went around and each person opened the gift, so
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you had to watch. My hands were itching on the
paper my kids got.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
As my kids got older, we did that because you
don't even know what they're getting. It's like crazy chaos.
It was chaos for years, and then it was okay,
you open yours, now you open yours, But it was
a sin when you have twins. Usually I'd let those
two open together because they pretty much got the same.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, that's funny, but you never did. I remember putting
My kids would come down and they you know, literally
like in Caitlin's because I only had the one girl
in her in her in the boys that would be
like two what do you call lip gloss? You know
when she was little like playlet and like, what the
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hell is this? And can look at that? Why did
Santa that give me one? I was like, you know,
Sanna was very tired. Boys. I think that was meant
for Caitlyn. I mean, you know all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Did you ever lose anything that you bought a Christmas
present for somebody?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
No? Because I do the same thing every year. I
put them in. All my gifts are always in a closet.
When I can buy something in April and tonight, if
I'm wrapping it like Christmas Eve, which rarely happens, but
I have been known to do that, I get them
all out and I have it. That's where they are.
Do you keep them all the same place?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, everything's in my attic. I have a walk in
attic and they're in piles by families. But my dad
one year, I bought him a gold chain, a gold
neck chain, and he's opening his presence. And I would
always save something for the next day because his birthday
was the day after Christmas. But I was constantly too
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excited that it's right here, it's right here. You sure
you don't want to open it today? You sure, he said, Susan,
tomorrow is my birthday. I will open it, open it tomorrow. Well,
long story short, he opened all his gifts and I
had his birthday gift. It was something different, and I
was like, wait a minute, where's dad, did you open
something without me looking? I lost it. I lost it
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the gold chain, like a real gold chain. You loft
it gone, it was not there, and we ripped through everything.
I looked everywhere. I was so upset. He goes, Susan,
don't worry about it, don't no dad. The following year,
I went out bought him another chain and gave it
to him. That was Christmas week or whatever. You didn't
have to do that. On and on and on. Long
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story short. The following year, I was wrapping gifts and
I have a big gift wrap bag thing, let you
keep all your stuff in.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It was there.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I found it next year.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
What you do with it?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I gave it to him? He said, what am I
going to do with this? I said, I don't know.
I mean you got two now? Well, can I tell
you here it is? Because I don't believe you went
out and bought another one. It was a year later
so you couldn't exchange it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But oh wow, we're going to keep things light that
we could go on and talk about memories forever with everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, I married Christmas.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well let me just sat Can I just say? Hanakah
has been over now for a few days. So those
of you who do not celebrate Christmas just pretend. You
can pretend and it's fine. It's fine, celebrate you know,
it's it's we don't have to get into the whole
idea of Jesus being born. Just you know, wrap something
up and or actually, okay, little test here before we
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get into our our little questions that we're going to do.
Do you know what I grew up? I told you
I grew up in a mostly Jewish neighborhood. Do you
know what the Jewish people in my neighbor, and I
think this might be across the board. Do on Christmas
Day go to the movies? They get Chinese food and
go to the Chinese and go to the movies, which
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you know what if tomorrow doesn't work out, well, I
might be getting dim sum young and going to a
cord and.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
We eat really early, like by three o'clock. I'm like
by eight o'clock, I am scrubbing the floors, cleaning the
house like it's all done. I go out like a visit,
or go to the movies, or.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Go to the casino on Christmas Day. On Christmas Night,
you go to the casino, they're not they're not clothes
on Christmas the casino clues. All right, all right, we're
not going down to the casino row here. We're going to
keep things light and we're gonna answer some questions so
you guys can get to know us better, because who
doesn't want it, as Susan and Kathy, just.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
A little you know about us really?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All right, Susan, you want to start us off for
the first one?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, I sure will. If you could go back and
revisit one holiday from your past, what would it be and.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Why oh, well, it's Christmas Eve. It would absolutely be.
I would love to see my children's faces again when
they got those tickets to Disney World. I would love
I could I replay in my head all the time,
what about you?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I wasn't thinking that of my children. I thought they
meant from my past as a child.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Well that is it's still from my past. My kids
are grown.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes, I guess you're right, so I have to rethink
the question. I don't know. I love all of them.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You're struggling to think of, Well, I don't know which
one would Well, you know what. You know what's nice
about that, Susan, is you love them all that's said?
You know? Yeah, I still do. I I'll tell you
one from when I was a child. My father, as
you know, my stepmother I considered my mother. My father
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gave my stepmom for Christmas one year a emerald cut
diamond ring. Because they got married, they weren't engaged. They
I mean, it was the second marriage for both of them,
and she had a beautiful gold wedding band, but she
never had a diamond. And I will never forget the
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look on her face when she opened that box and
saw that diamond.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Ring.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I'll never forget seeing how.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I love that. What ones I like to go back
and visit wouldn't even be Christmas. It's surprising my kids
with something, you know, on their birthday, when I bought
Brittany a call. Are you know things like that? All right,
what's the next one?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
What was your first holiday season like with children?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Chaos?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I remember, no, no, no, a baby. Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And they liked the paper in the boxes. It didn't
even matter what was in it. Oh. I love that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
They just I remember my kid, my, my my infants.
I mean, they slept. It could have been you know,
it could have been you know, New Year's it could
have been fourth of July. But when they started crawling,
oh my god, getting into the tree. What you know
what I did my trees for the couple of years there.
I put nothing on the bottom so that they couldn't
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you know, they couldn't uh get them. But then I
would take them over and hold them in and touch them.
I have to tell you one other thing that I
cannot believe because I'm looking at it right now. My
might you know it's it's it's my tree is lit.
I have a Christmas decoration. My grandmother the one that
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I did the Catholic thing with. She bought all of
us green glass balls, just you know your standard big
four inch five inch, you know those big glass balls,
and she had all of our names names glittered on them.
I still have mine. I'm the only one who hasn't left.
And I always put it up on the tree. And
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that's what made me think of it when I had
young kids, like I love you, children, but you break
that ornament, I'll have to kill you. And it's always
touched into the tree.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You just gave me an I thought that when we said,
could you go back and revisit one holiday? I love this.
You know when you give your children they get to
shop at school and you give them ten dollars or
whatever the amount was.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I opened presents on Christmas and my son, one son
bought me a diamond ring, and then my other son
bought the necklace. And they were like, you know from
the five and.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Dime story, how sweet, Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
My god, I'll never forget it. How special they did it,
and they wrapped it by themselves, and it was such
a thing. Brittany. He used to get me things every
year from this Christmas bazaar at school.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
We never had that. I made a face because we
didn't have Christmas shopping for the kids.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
All right, Kathy, if you had a naughty and nice
list for men your age, what gets someone put on
each one?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Why would you put somebody on a naughty list or
a nice list?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I mean, listen, I'm easy. If if a guy is
kind to me and you know, tells me, whispers a
sweet nothing in my ear, he's automatically on the nice list.
I think the only thing they would put him on
the naughty list are things that would put him on
the kick him out the door list, like you know,
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cheating on me or you know. I have to say,
if for men, not boyfriend, for for just men in general,
treat your special someone, your mother, your sister, your partner,
give her a card, give her a gift, make or
feel special. That's what's going to get you on everyone's
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nice list.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I happen to agree with it, but I know you
get the next one. But I gotta ask you, Okay,
what was the first big purchase you made with your
own money? And how did that make you feel? I
remember mine?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Oh my god, I actually don't remember. Okay, So tell
me what was yours.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
This is something I forget so many things.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What like a maserati? What'd you're buying?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'm not this one. I'll never forget. My first real job,
my whole paycheck. There was a pair of these cheal
colored wedgies shoes I've seen. I could not wait to
get them. And I actually didn't have money for the
week for gas. And I went to ask my parents
could they spot me till next paycheck? And my mother
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said to me, well, you just got paid, You got
your first paycheck. What did you do? I bought shoes?
My mother did, Carmen. Carmen, when you talk to her,
you can't do that. Susan, your first paycheck and you
bought a pair of shoes that you can't afford. That
a one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Your wife has not changed much since then. I'm just
gonna say, all you out there, Susan gets a paycheck,
she's out shopping. I honestly don't remember, Susan. I really don't,
because I worked. I worked from the time I was thirteen.
We had across the neighbor street. The neighbor across the
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street was a quadriplegic, and so I went over every
day after school, and she paid me and I helped her.
She would tell me what to do to fix dinner
for the kids because her husband, her charming husband, left
her after she became a quacoplegic. So I went over.
So I got paid from that, and I don't remember.
I know I tried to save money. I got a
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same to God. I like seeing my shav a saver always.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That's why she has it now and I don't. But
I had everything I wanted.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Okay, what is the job you had early? Oh I've
got a good answer for this. What is the job
you had early in life that people would never expect? Oh?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Gosh. I worked at Orange Julius in the mall. And
I worked at the record bar in the mall. We
sold album I know record jobs always as a as
a high school kid. And then I worked for doctor
Saltz when I was allowed to do the work program
and leave school at once, for a dentist. So I
had three jobs. Okay, that's why I thought I could
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go my shoes.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I mean, oh, that's funny. Well, I already said I
worked for the neighbor across the street. But do you
know what job I had all the way through high school.
But I was a cashier at a grocery store, and
I worked my way up so I could work in
the courtesy booth cashing checks and that you know, that
was high cotton. But back in those days you couldn't
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look at the red shirt. They were the old fashioned.
You had to push your count the change out. Yeah, well, yeah,
I tell yeah. I could do math. I had to
count the champ but literally we couldn't look at the keys.
And so it was like learning how to do an
adding machine. And when I got tired of working and
wanted a break, I was so fast at it. I
could jam the machine and I would do it regularly.
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I know I was bad, but I remember getting those
paychecks and getting overtime. I thought I was I thought
it was big cotton.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The cats me out there. You know, all right, what's
a story from your childhood or your teenage years that
still makes you laugh out loud?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh gosh, you know, well, I can tell you one.
I laugh out loud now because I love It's not
about Christmas, but it's July fourth. When I was little,
I hated the fireworks that I was so sensitive to
that large to that loud noise, and every year my
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mother would make me go and I would scream so
loudly because I was so really desperately afraid of it,
and she would make me go. Yes, like I said,
my stepmother was my real mom anyway, But I was
just hysterical that the sound scared me so much. And
now I love fireworks like the louder the better. But
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so I laughed out loud now thinking how afraid I
was of fireworks back then.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
For me, it's the silly things. I used to stand
on my table and chairs and have something in my
hand like a microphone, and I would entertain my parents,
my grandpa when we went to my nan as, I
will perform.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Well you haven't. You're still doing it.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So I haven't changed a bit.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Okay, all right, what's the moment in your life where
you felt the most proud of yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I have a couple moments, okay. First, having a child,
I was so proud that and I went natural foolish,
not that I planned on it, she just came really fast.
The second proudest that I felt when I was able
to speak at my father's funeral, Well, I was very
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proud of myself good for you.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I don't think I did it for my mom.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I did it for my brothers, both brothers. It's something.
It was hard, but it helped me get through it,
and I was very proud of that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh, good for you. That I don't think I could
do about you. So you know, I got married very young,
and education was always My kids would tell you today
if you ask them what's most important to mom, they
would say, I mean, aside for my children and my grandchildren, education,
it's huge for me. Well, I got married when I
was twenty. He and I left college and I got married,
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but I was determined to finish my degree, and we
moved around a lot, and I finally graduated thirteen years
after I started, and I walked. I remember walking up
to get that diploma, and I was so proud that
I did it. Good for you, Okay, what is it?
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All right? Go ahead, you do this one. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What is an experience you had in your twenties that
shaped who you became at sixty?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Getting married?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
True to that? I don't think I have an answer
for that one.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
All right, Let's move on. If your life had eras
like you know, Taylor Swift, what would the name of
your current era be I got it. Well, go ahead,
save the best for last.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I'll drink to that.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think we can both drink to that one.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, okay, what's the wildest or most spontaneous thing you've
ever done in the name of love?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Oh god, Susan, you got to take this one.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I got lost.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, you know what? You can do mine for me.
I'm not even going to hit this one up. Go
for two? What are your two? Top?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Actually, I've done it more than once, when I surprised
someone with a gift, of course, with a trip, like
I took somebody to.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Greece and that was spontaneous.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Why that was spontaneous?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
You're telling me you just said loo, boom.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I decided, I went out and did it and boom,
here you go.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And this is why Susan is still working. Oh god,
all right, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
What is something you wish viewers knew about what living
in the mansion was really?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Like, I think you guys know everything, that's all I think.
I think. Uh, the bathroom situation was a little more chaotic,
like you had to plan when you were going to
use the toilet if you got my dress.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Especially with the ones in the other smaller rooms would
come to use our big ones.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, I mean the bathroom situation was not ideal. And
the other thing about living in the mansion is there
were always like Susan cooked a lot. There were alas
damn dirty dishes in the sink, and it was always me.
We were not mentioned any names here, but you and
I both know there were some people who cooked, there
were some people who were and there were some people
(27:39):
who never washed a dish.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Excuse me, did you just put that in there? You
need to wash it? Because the dish washer was broken.
We had to wash the dishes. Okay, right, alrighty. If
you could redo one moment from the show, funny or serious,
what would it be?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh for me? Yeah, I would yell at to me,
c even louder. What is wrong with you? Zip it now? Yep?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You know what I like to jumping out of the cake.
I really had fun jumping out of the cake.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That was fun. That was fun. It was such a
fun time on that show. I wish everyone could have better.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
They need to do another show with us. Okay, what
is something you learned about yourself in your sixties or
seventies that you wish you knew earlier. Oh, you learned about.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yoursel Oh that's so easy for me. Okay, God, that
I may not be perfect, but I wish I knew
that and believed it. That I'm the best I can be.
I'm not perfect, but I'm a good person. I'm the
best I can be, and not everyone's gonna love me,
and that's okay. In other words, I think I spent
(28:58):
too much time earlier in my life trying to please
other people, trying hard and now and didn't realize that.
You know, I'm not everyone's cup of tea, And guess what,
not everyone's my cup of tea. And I learned that.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Likely it's quite similar that I don't have to be somebody.
I'm not to please another person. I'm good enough.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You're a better, a good life.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You're bank already. What's a love lesson? You learned the
hard way? Oh? God, don't ask me that, because I
still don't learn.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh well, I can answer this, and I will tell you.
It makes me cry, but I'll get through it. What
I learned the hard way is when my husband was
a life alive. You know the old expression do you
want to be right or happy? I sure wanted to
be right all the time. And I learned that the
(29:56):
hard way because now I can't you know, I can't
tell them now. I don't care care about being right.
I just want to be happy.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
There you go. What's a belief of value or truth
you've kept with you your entire life?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
What? Oh? I got one?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I value integrity. I value doing the right thing. I'm
not saying I've never that I haven't at times done
the wrong thing. We all do. But I put great
emphasis and great belief that you do the right thing
for you. You don't do it so other people see it.
(30:39):
You do the right thing to set hopefully to set
an example for your children, for your friends, and so
that people will look at me and say, they'll realize
I have integrity, because that's really important to me. What
about you?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And for me, it's being real to people and not
telling a lie because you think that's what they want
to hear. Yeah, just being straightforward and unapologetically authentically us. Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
When did you feel the most loved ever? The most.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
By my nana?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, my nana? Really?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I mean I felt love by my family, my friends,
you know, my boyfriends that I've been in love with
my husband. But my Nana. I was very special to
her because, as I think I mentioned before in one
of our podcasts, she had three brothers and then she
got married and had three sons, and my dad was
the oldest, and she came from Italy and I was
(31:49):
the first grandchild. It's a girl.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Needless, no wonder. Okay, now I understand the deal with Nana. Okay,
for me, it's absolutely no brainer. My husband, he he
always made me feel so loved.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
So sweet. Okay, what's a moment in your life you
think your younger self would be really proud of. I
think my younger self will be proud of me, period.
That's not a moment. I'm very proud of her.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Younger self would be most proud that Susan on Christmas
Eve gets out those teal shoes and says, I might
have spent one hundred and fifty bucks on my how.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Many years I held on the never dry riding in
the islandic I would never throw them all.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm telling you, I think I think my younger self
would be proud because I didn't have great role models.
I think my younger self would be proud of the
mom I was to my kids again, made a lot
of mistakes, but I was you know.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Wait, I know it's your turn, but I got to
ask you this, Okay, is there a part of your
personality people misunderstand and what's the truth behind it?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I can answer that.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Go ahead, you answer it for me. Go ahead, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I work on it constantly with her. It's her delivery.
She's got a heart of gold, she really does. But
the way she puts it out there sometimes it's a
little rough.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Well, and I'm gonna tell you it's because the truth is,
You're right, and I am misunderstood. People think I'm hard.
I'm not really hard at all. But I was one
of seven kids, and I was for a while before
the you know, the second marriages. I was the youngest
of five. And let me tell you, you learn to scrap
(33:41):
and fight because you're gonna in my house. You starved
if literally if you you know so. I learned to
be direct and hard and move fast because you know,
he who hesitates is lost in my family and things.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
We develop who we are from our child.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yes, Oh, childhood trauma, we can do. We can weeks
on that subject.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It's crazy different for us.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
What about you.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I think people know exactly who I am.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Oh see, I think you are kind.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm a crier, I'm sensitive. Maybe they don't realize how
sensitive I am.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I think no, I think people see all that in you.
I think people I don't think they misunderstanding about you.
But I think people think that you are always sweet,
always just a love button, which you are a lot
of time. But there is also a side of you
that can be tough.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You don't see it to hurt somebody I love, or
you're pissing me off.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's the side I know.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But I think a lot of people, and this came
from in my career in hair business, would the young
ones would say, I want to be like you when
I grow up. You don't let anything bother you. That
is so far from the truth. Yeah, it really is.
People think I'm stronger than ever and I can handle anything,
and I can I manage. But it hurts like things.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, well you know what I till you make it.
I think a lot of people who come across as
really strong have have weaker not weaker, have sensitive sides
where they just learn how to cope better or disguise it.
Pick a word. Coping skills or disguise it because they
don't want to have that conversation. They don't want to
(35:29):
show it. But here it is Christmas Eve, we learn
more about us. That is our Christmas holiday gift to
you all, getting to know a little bit more about us.
I speak for Susan and me when we wish those
of you who celebrate Christmas a very very happy Christmas
and and to the rest of the world happy, happy
(35:51):
New Year. That's right around the corner as well.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, we'll have an episode of talk about that next year.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
And unfortunately that's going to do it for this episode
of Bachelor Happy Hours.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Golden Thank you so much for joining us. As you know,
we have new episodes coming out every week and we're
going to stay current and talk about everything that's happening
out there. You don't want to miss.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Make sure to submit all your questions to us. You
can go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or
hit us up on socials at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
And listen to the Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on
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Speaker 1 (36:30):
Oh hoh Hoy. The Holidays
Hi everyone. Kathy and susn't here. Before we get into
today's episode, just a quick psa. If there are any
young kids around, maybe grab some headphones. We're going to
be talking about some adult things regarding the holidays. All right,
let's get into the episode.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks so
much for joining us today. We are so excited to
be back and so excited about the holiday. Kathy, are
you ready?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I mean, if I'm not, I got about eight hours
left till Santa's coming down the chimney, so you know,
it's really at this point. I truly am done. And
I actually love Christmas Eve. I think I like Christmas
Eve better than Christmas Day because when the kids were young,
we used to go to like a five o'clock service
(01:00):
with the kids because my kids played piano for the
service and they would turn the lights off and light
candles and sing. So, I don't know, Christmas Eve to
me is just a really beautiful, peaceful time. What about you.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
I liked giving the kids all one present on Christmas
Eve and it was all matching pajamas. They got one
every year. The dish this morning would be fun.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
So did you give them to them this year? Did
you give him to this year?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
No? Because I don't have children live in here.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh so you don't do it for the kids and
the grandkids, the whole family thing. No, you're saying for
the kids to come down Christmas morning. Yes, we you
know what, we never did Christmas gifts the night before.
It was that was that was a you know, you
might as well have just unwrapped them under the tree
and let you know why. But you know what we
(01:51):
did do every year. We we couldn't wait. So I
don't obviously don't have any young kids at home tonight,
But I missed that tradition too, because when the kids
would go to bed, Daryl and I would we each
bought the kids a gift from Santa Claus and that
went by, we'd fill their stockings. Got to helpe, No
(02:12):
young kids are listening to this p s A turn
it off. We'd fill the kids stockings and we would
get out the gift.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Each just one gift from Santa.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It was always their big gift, like it was a
bicycle or you know, whatever it was that they really wanted.
It always came from Santa. And to see their faces
was was a man. But I got to tell you
the favorite, and then I'm gonna ask you your favorite
my favorite memory. Do you know the commercials they do
(02:47):
for Disney World. They give it to the kid on Christmas?
Have you ever seen it on TV? And the kids go, well,
let me tell you what we did. We did it first.
I want the credit. We did it before it was
on Disney World. Whatever. We one year, I think my
oldest son was nine, so it's been nine six and four.
(03:09):
We bought tickets to take the kids to Disney World,
airline tickets, the whole bit. We wrapped it up and
we didn't give it from Santa Claus. That was Christmas
morning and I'll never forget Douglas, my oldest son, was
really the only one that was could figure out. He's like,
(03:30):
they're plane tickets and we went, yes, we're going on
an airplane. Where are we going? What does it say?
And we went through the whole thing, and then we
brought out the tickets and the Mickey Mouse thing.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
On the next day.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I think it was like two days later. They if you,
I mean I could cry again think about it. I
get goosebumps. They started crying and screaming really, really, we're
going to do it? Really? Really? It was. It was
one of probably the best Christmas memory? What about you do?
You have the best paper?
Speaker 2 (04:01):
But I've known it absolutely. But my plan was whenever
I was taken him, I would never do it more
than three days before they're surprised because they would torture me.
How many more days? How many more this? How many
more this?
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Oh no, but I'm saying, what is that you did?
You do it for Christmas as well?
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Not on Christmas Day?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
What is your favor?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I've done other trips and given it Christmas Day that
we were leaving in a day or two. Yes, but
it wasn't Disney for that one. But whenever we went,
we went seventeen times. Oh god, I could do Disney.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
What is one of your favorite holiday memories with your family? Oh?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
When I would dump the kids with some of their gifts,
I would put clues and I would have them run
all over the house, open the dryer, and I could
hear the boys going, is she's serious in the dryer
and it wasn't there there was another clue, And after
about the fifth when they go, Mom, seriously, oh that's
(05:04):
cute that we would laugh watching them run everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
We would I would wrap uh gifts in huge big boxes, yes,
or and then rather smaller box and wrap each box
and the same thing. Come on, mom, come on, but
I don't know. Christmas Eve? What do you cook? Like?
This year? You know, I'm eating whatever's in the furgerator.
(05:30):
But what do you do? Do you do special meals
on Christmas Eve?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
I used to do the Seven Fishes, like.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
I said, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I don't When Dicky and I were apart, Dickie would
take the children out every Christmas Eve, and they still
do it. We go to dinner, and they always wanted
to go to the hubachi. Okay for years that is tradition.
And now my sisters they go to the hubbachi and
(05:59):
Susan's Yellen. This year. I used to join them. Oh yeah,
I'll go, you know. And then I go to my
girlfriend Lottie's for the Seven Fishes.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Wow, well, I don't know. I I remember growing up
some of the Christmas Eves. So my parents were divorced
and we got to spend lots of Christmases with my dad.
And I'll never forget. I couldn't have been more than
seven maybe eight, and we this particular year, we got
(06:31):
to spend Christmas Eve with my dad and my stepmom
and then he had to bring us back to my
mother's house for you know, that evening for Christmas Day,
and it was a good old Nor'easter snowstorm. Oh my gosh.
I loved it because you know what happened. He tried
to get us there, because under the penalty of death
(06:51):
by my mother, he tried to get us home, but
it was drifting. We couldn't and we had we couldn't.
We got out of the car and we were literally
they were We were walking back in the snow, trudging
back to their house. And we were all so excited
because we got to spend Christmas with my dad because
it was way more fun. And I'll never forget that memory.
(07:13):
I don't know that the memories of childhood and the
memories of having children are so different from me. The
Christmas memories, yeah, I'm sorry, No, there wasn't no, I mean,
they were all.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Good ones right from your childhood.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
No, Christmas memories were always good my my my grandmother
was Catholic and I really wanted h.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Do you ever go to the midnight Mass?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I have. I did go to midnight Mass, not anymore.
Tonight I will not be at midnight Mass. I'll be snug.
What is it, I'll be dreaming of sugar bloms in
my head or whatever that one is.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
But I'm happy tonight.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm sorry, No, go ahead, I'm just gonna say she want.
I wanted this winter coat, and my grandmother said, if
you if you do the stations of the Cross with me.
I had no idea what that was. It's like there's
twelve or thirteen crosses in a Catholic church. I don't know.
You can school me on that too, And I went lent.
Oh it's lent. Are you sure? Then? Okay, well it
(08:16):
was something else we did and we had to walk around.
It was a Christmas time and I got that coat
for Christmas from my grandmother in law. You know, I
just remember standing in the church going, okay, you know,
maybe it was lighting twelve candles. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
I just you know what I get excited about now.
Of course, I wish I could wake up to the babies.
And that's the whole thing. When the kids stopped believing
it was different. But tonight I don't have to put
anything together. We'd be up till wee hours of the
morning trying to put the things together.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, there is Did you ever put the wrong stuff
in the wrong stocking? We were so tired. Like I said,
but the people have opened gifts.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I go, oh, that's not for you.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
No, But my kids would come down together because our
rule always was on Christmas morning they could open their
stocking and have their gift from sin which wasn't wrapped.
But they couldn't We couldn't open any presence. Remember my
husband was the naval officer rules regulations. There were no
more presents till after everyone had breakfast.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh they you made them way.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Excuse me, excuse me. I just told you the officer, sir, Yes, sir,
permission to come ashore, sir. My husband said that was
that was his tradition. Not only that, susan each person
and we did it my family too, with seven kids.
You went around and each person opened the gift, so
(09:39):
you had to watch. My hands were itching on the
paper my kids got.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
As my kids got older, we did that because you
don't even know what they're getting. It's like crazy chaos.
It was chaos for years, and then it was okay,
you open yours, now you open yours, But it was
a sin when you have twins. Usually I'd let those
two open together because they pretty much got the same.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, that's funny, but you never did. I remember putting
My kids would come down and they you know, literally
like in Caitlin's because I only had the one girl
in her in her in the boys that would be
like two what do you call lip gloss? You know
when she was little like playlet and like, what the
(10:24):
hell is this? And can look at that? Why did
Santa that give me one? I was like, you know,
Sanna was very tired. Boys. I think that was meant
for Caitlyn. I mean, you know all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Did you ever lose anything that you bought a Christmas
present for somebody?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
No? Because I do the same thing every year. I
put them in. All my gifts are always in a closet.
When I can buy something in April and tonight, if
I'm wrapping it like Christmas Eve, which rarely happens, but
I have been known to do that, I get them
all out and I have it. That's where they are.
Do you keep them all the same place?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, everything's in my attic. I have a walk in
attic and they're in piles by families. But my dad
one year, I bought him a gold chain, a gold
neck chain, and he's opening his presence. And I would
always save something for the next day because his birthday
was the day after Christmas. But I was constantly too
(11:21):
excited that it's right here, it's right here. You sure
you don't want to open it today? You sure, he said, Susan,
tomorrow is my birthday. I will open it, open it tomorrow. Well,
long story short, he opened all his gifts and I
had his birthday gift. It was something different, and I
was like, wait a minute, where's dad, did you open
something without me looking? I lost it. I lost it
(11:44):
the gold chain, like a real gold chain. You loft
it gone, it was not there, and we ripped through everything.
I looked everywhere. I was so upset. He goes, Susan,
don't worry about it, don't no dad. The following year,
I went out bought him another chain and gave it
to him. That was Christmas week or whatever. You didn't
have to do that. On and on and on. Long
(12:06):
story short. The following year, I was wrapping gifts and
I have a big gift wrap bag thing, let you
keep all your stuff in.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It was there.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I found it next year.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
What you do with it?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
I gave it to him? He said, what am I
going to do with this? I said, I don't know.
I mean you got two now? Well, can I tell
you here it is? Because I don't believe you went
out and bought another one. It was a year later
so you couldn't exchange it.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
But oh wow, we're going to keep things light that
we could go on and talk about memories forever with everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Yeah, I married Christmas.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Well let me just sat Can I just say? Hanakah
has been over now for a few days. So those
of you who do not celebrate Christmas just pretend. You
can pretend and it's fine. It's fine, celebrate you know,
it's it's we don't have to get into the whole
idea of Jesus being born. Just you know, wrap something
up and or actually, okay, little test here before we
(13:09):
get into our our little questions that we're going to do.
Do you know what I grew up? I told you
I grew up in a mostly Jewish neighborhood. Do you
know what the Jewish people in my neighbor, and I
think this might be across the board. Do on Christmas
Day go to the movies? They get Chinese food and
go to the Chinese and go to the movies, which
(13:31):
you know what if tomorrow doesn't work out, well, I
might be getting dim sum young and going to a
cord and.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
We eat really early, like by three o'clock. I'm like
by eight o'clock, I am scrubbing the floors, cleaning the
house like it's all done. I go out like a visit,
or go to the movies, or.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Go to the casino on Christmas Day. On Christmas Night,
you go to the casino, they're not they're not clothes
on Christmas the casino clues. All right, all right, we're
not going down to the casino row here. We're going to
keep things light and we're gonna answer some questions so
you guys can get to know us better, because who
doesn't want it, as Susan and Kathy, just.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
A little you know about us really?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
All right, Susan, you want to start us off for
the first one?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Okay, I sure will. If you could go back and
revisit one holiday from your past, what would it be and.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Why oh, well, it's Christmas Eve. It would absolutely be.
I would love to see my children's faces again when
they got those tickets to Disney World. I would love
I could I replay in my head all the time,
what about you?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I wasn't thinking that of my children. I thought they
meant from my past as a child.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Well that is it's still from my past. My kids
are grown.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Yes, I guess you're right, so I have to rethink
the question. I don't know. I love all of them.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You're struggling to think of, Well, I don't know which
one would Well, you know what. You know what's nice
about that, Susan, is you love them all that's said?
You know? Yeah, I still do. I I'll tell you
one from when I was a child. My father, as
you know, my stepmother I considered my mother. My father
(15:18):
gave my stepmom for Christmas one year a emerald cut
diamond ring. Because they got married, they weren't engaged. They
I mean, it was the second marriage for both of them,
and she had a beautiful gold wedding band, but she
never had a diamond. And I will never forget the
(15:40):
look on her face when she opened that box and
saw that diamond.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Ring.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I'll never forget seeing how.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I love that. What ones I like to go back
and visit wouldn't even be Christmas. It's surprising my kids
with something, you know, on their birthday, when I bought
Brittany a call. Are you know things like that? All right,
what's the next one?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
What was your first holiday season like with children?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Chaos?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I remember, no, no, no, a baby. Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
And they liked the paper in the boxes. It didn't
even matter what was in it. Oh. I love that.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
They just I remember my kid, my, my my infants.
I mean, they slept. It could have been you know,
it could have been you know, New Year's it could
have been fourth of July. But when they started crawling,
oh my god, getting into the tree. What you know
what I did my trees for the couple of years there.
I put nothing on the bottom so that they couldn't
(16:44):
you know, they couldn't uh get them. But then I
would take them over and hold them in and touch them.
I have to tell you one other thing that I
cannot believe because I'm looking at it right now. My
might you know it's it's it's my tree is lit.
I have a Christmas decoration. My grandmother the one that
(17:06):
I did the Catholic thing with. She bought all of
us green glass balls, just you know your standard big
four inch five inch, you know those big glass balls,
and she had all of our names names glittered on them.
I still have mine. I'm the only one who hasn't left.
And I always put it up on the tree. And
(17:27):
that's what made me think of it when I had
young kids, like I love you, children, but you break
that ornament, I'll have to kill you. And it's always
touched into the tree.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
You just gave me an I thought that when we said,
could you go back and revisit one holiday? I love this.
You know when you give your children they get to
shop at school and you give them ten dollars or
whatever the amount was.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
I opened presents on Christmas and my son, one son
bought me a diamond ring, and then my other son
bought the necklace. And they were like, you know from
the five and.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Dime story, how sweet, Oh.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
My god, I'll never forget it. How special they did it,
and they wrapped it by themselves, and it was such
a thing. Brittany. He used to get me things every
year from this Christmas bazaar at school.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
We never had that. I made a face because we
didn't have Christmas shopping for the kids.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
All right, Kathy, if you had a naughty and nice
list for men your age, what gets someone put on
each one?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Why would you put somebody on a naughty list or
a nice list?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I mean, listen, I'm easy. If if a guy is
kind to me and you know, tells me, whispers a
sweet nothing in my ear, he's automatically on the nice list.
I think the only thing they would put him on
the naughty list are things that would put him on
the kick him out the door list, like you know,
(19:01):
cheating on me or you know. I have to say,
if for men, not boyfriend, for for just men in general,
treat your special someone, your mother, your sister, your partner,
give her a card, give her a gift, make or
feel special. That's what's going to get you on everyone's
(19:21):
nice list.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I happen to agree with it, but I know you
get the next one. But I gotta ask you, Okay,
what was the first big purchase you made with your
own money? And how did that make you feel? I
remember mine?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Oh my god, I actually don't remember. Okay, So tell
me what was yours.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
This is something I forget so many things.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
What like a maserati? What'd you're buying?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'm not this one. I'll never forget. My first real job,
my whole paycheck. There was a pair of these cheal
colored wedgies shoes I've seen. I could not wait to
get them. And I actually didn't have money for the
week for gas. And I went to ask my parents
could they spot me till next paycheck? And my mother
(20:10):
said to me, well, you just got paid, You got
your first paycheck. What did you do? I bought shoes?
My mother did, Carmen. Carmen, when you talk to her,
you can't do that. Susan, your first paycheck and you
bought a pair of shoes that you can't afford. That
a one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Your wife has not changed much since then. I'm just
gonna say, all you out there, Susan gets a paycheck,
she's out shopping. I honestly don't remember, Susan. I really don't,
because I worked. I worked from the time I was thirteen.
We had across the neighbor street. The neighbor across the
(20:49):
street was a quadriplegic, and so I went over every
day after school, and she paid me and I helped her.
She would tell me what to do to fix dinner
for the kids because her husband, her charming husband, left
her after she became a quacoplegic. So I went over.
So I got paid from that, and I don't remember.
I know I tried to save money. I got a
(21:09):
same to God. I like seeing my shav a saver always.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That's why she has it now and I don't. But
I had everything I wanted.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Okay, what is the job you had early? Oh I've
got a good answer for this. What is the job
you had early in life that people would never expect? Oh?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Gosh. I worked at Orange Julius in the mall. And
I worked at the record bar in the mall. We
sold album I know record jobs always as a as
a high school kid. And then I worked for doctor
Saltz when I was allowed to do the work program
and leave school at once, for a dentist. So I
had three jobs. Okay, that's why I thought I could
(21:46):
go my shoes.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
I mean, oh, that's funny. Well, I already said I
worked for the neighbor across the street. But do you
know what job I had all the way through high school.
But I was a cashier at a grocery store, and
I worked my way up so I could work in
the courtesy booth cashing checks and that you know, that
was high cotton. But back in those days you couldn't
(22:08):
look at the red shirt. They were the old fashioned.
You had to push your count the change out. Yeah, well, yeah,
I tell yeah. I could do math. I had to
count the champ but literally we couldn't look at the keys.
And so it was like learning how to do an
adding machine. And when I got tired of working and
wanted a break, I was so fast at it. I
could jam the machine and I would do it regularly.
(22:30):
I know I was bad, but I remember getting those
paychecks and getting overtime. I thought I was I thought
it was big cotton.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The cats me out there. You know, all right, what's
a story from your childhood or your teenage years that
still makes you laugh out loud?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Oh gosh, you know, well, I can tell you one.
I laugh out loud now because I love It's not
about Christmas, but it's July fourth. When I was little,
I hated the fireworks that I was so sensitive to
that large to that loud noise, and every year my
(23:10):
mother would make me go and I would scream so
loudly because I was so really desperately afraid of it,
and she would make me go. Yes, like I said,
my stepmother was my real mom anyway, But I was
just hysterical that the sound scared me so much. And
now I love fireworks like the louder the better. But
(23:32):
so I laughed out loud now thinking how afraid I
was of fireworks back then.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
For me, it's the silly things. I used to stand
on my table and chairs and have something in my
hand like a microphone, and I would entertain my parents,
my grandpa when we went to my nan as, I
will perform.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Well you haven't. You're still doing it.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
So I haven't changed a bit.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Okay, all right, what's the moment in your life where
you felt the most proud of yourself.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
I have a couple moments, okay. First, having a child,
I was so proud that and I went natural foolish,
not that I planned on it, she just came really fast.
The second proudest that I felt when I was able
to speak at my father's funeral, Well, I was very
(24:29):
proud of myself good for you.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
I don't think I did it for my mom.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I did it for my brothers, both brothers. It's something.
It was hard, but it helped me get through it,
and I was very proud of that.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh, good for you. That I don't think I could
do about you. So you know, I got married very young,
and education was always My kids would tell you today
if you ask them what's most important to mom, they
would say, I mean, aside for my children and my grandchildren, education,
it's huge for me. Well, I got married when I
was twenty. He and I left college and I got married,
(25:02):
but I was determined to finish my degree, and we
moved around a lot, and I finally graduated thirteen years
after I started, and I walked. I remember walking up
to get that diploma, and I was so proud that
I did it. Good for you, Okay, what is it?
(25:25):
All right? Go ahead, you do this one. Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
What is an experience you had in your twenties that
shaped who you became at sixty?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Getting married?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
True to that? I don't think I have an answer
for that one.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
All right, Let's move on. If your life had eras
like you know, Taylor Swift, what would the name of
your current era be I got it. Well, go ahead,
save the best for last.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I'll drink to that.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think we can both drink to that one.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, okay, what's the wildest or most spontaneous thing you've
ever done in the name of love?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Oh god, Susan, you got to take this one.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I got lost.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Yeah, you know what? You can do mine for me.
I'm not even going to hit this one up. Go
for two? What are your two? Top?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Actually, I've done it more than once, when I surprised
someone with a gift, of course, with a trip, like
I took somebody to.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Greece and that was spontaneous.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Why that was spontaneous?
Speaker 1 (26:36):
You're telling me you just said loo, boom.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I decided, I went out and did it and boom,
here you go.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
And this is why Susan is still working. Oh god,
all right, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
What is something you wish viewers knew about what living
in the mansion was really?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Like, I think you guys know everything, that's all I think.
I think. Uh, the bathroom situation was a little more chaotic,
like you had to plan when you were going to
use the toilet if you got my dress.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Especially with the ones in the other smaller rooms would
come to use our big ones.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yeah, I mean the bathroom situation was not ideal. And
the other thing about living in the mansion is there
were always like Susan cooked a lot. There were alas
damn dirty dishes in the sink, and it was always me.
We were not mentioned any names here, but you and
I both know there were some people who cooked, there
were some people who were and there were some people
(27:39):
who never washed a dish.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Excuse me, did you just put that in there? You
need to wash it? Because the dish washer was broken.
We had to wash the dishes. Okay, right, alrighty. If
you could redo one moment from the show, funny or serious,
what would it be?
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Oh for me? Yeah, I would yell at to me,
c even louder. What is wrong with you? Zip it now? Yep?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You know what I like to jumping out of the cake.
I really had fun jumping out of the cake.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That was fun. That was fun. It was such a
fun time on that show. I wish everyone could have better.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
They need to do another show with us. Okay, what
is something you learned about yourself in your sixties or
seventies that you wish you knew earlier. Oh, you learned about.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yoursel Oh that's so easy for me. Okay, God, that
I may not be perfect, but I wish I knew
that and believed it. That I'm the best I can be.
I'm not perfect, but I'm a good person. I'm the
best I can be, and not everyone's gonna love me,
and that's okay. In other words, I think I spent
(28:58):
too much time earlier in my life trying to please
other people, trying hard and now and didn't realize that.
You know, I'm not everyone's cup of tea, And guess what,
not everyone's my cup of tea. And I learned that.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Likely it's quite similar that I don't have to be somebody.
I'm not to please another person. I'm good enough.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
You're a better, a good life.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You're bank already. What's a love lesson? You learned the
hard way? Oh? God, don't ask me that, because I
still don't learn.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh well, I can answer this, and I will tell you.
It makes me cry, but I'll get through it. What
I learned the hard way is when my husband was
a life alive. You know the old expression do you
want to be right or happy? I sure wanted to
be right all the time. And I learned that the
(29:56):
hard way because now I can't you know, I can't
tell them now. I don't care care about being right.
I just want to be happy.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
There you go. What's a belief of value or truth
you've kept with you your entire life?
Speaker 1 (30:11):
What? Oh? I got one?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I value integrity. I value doing the right thing. I'm
not saying I've never that I haven't at times done
the wrong thing. We all do. But I put great
emphasis and great belief that you do the right thing
for you. You don't do it so other people see it.
(30:39):
You do the right thing to set hopefully to set
an example for your children, for your friends, and so
that people will look at me and say, they'll realize
I have integrity, because that's really important to me. What
about you?
Speaker 2 (30:53):
And for me, it's being real to people and not
telling a lie because you think that's what they want
to hear. Yeah, just being straightforward and unapologetically authentically us. Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
When did you feel the most loved ever? The most.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
By my nana?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah, my nana? Really?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
I mean I felt love by my family, my friends,
you know, my boyfriends that I've been in love with
my husband. But my Nana. I was very special to
her because, as I think I mentioned before in one
of our podcasts, she had three brothers and then she
got married and had three sons, and my dad was
the oldest, and she came from Italy and I was
(31:49):
the first grandchild. It's a girl.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Needless, no wonder. Okay, now I understand the deal with Nana. Okay,
for me, it's absolutely no brainer. My husband, he he
always made me feel so loved.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
So sweet. Okay, what's a moment in your life you
think your younger self would be really proud of. I
think my younger self will be proud of me, period.
That's not a moment. I'm very proud of her.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Younger self would be most proud that Susan on Christmas
Eve gets out those teal shoes and says, I might
have spent one hundred and fifty bucks on my how.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Many years I held on the never dry riding in
the islandic I would never throw them all.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I'm telling you, I think I think my younger self
would be proud because I didn't have great role models.
I think my younger self would be proud of the
mom I was to my kids again, made a lot
of mistakes, but I was you know.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Wait, I know it's your turn, but I got to
ask you this, Okay, is there a part of your
personality people misunderstand and what's the truth behind it?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I can answer that.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Go ahead, you answer it for me. Go ahead, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
I work on it constantly with her. It's her delivery.
She's got a heart of gold, she really does. But
the way she puts it out there sometimes it's a
little rough.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Well, and I'm gonna tell you it's because the truth is,
You're right, and I am misunderstood. People think I'm hard.
I'm not really hard at all. But I was one
of seven kids, and I was for a while before
the you know, the second marriages. I was the youngest
of five. And let me tell you, you learn to scrap
(33:41):
and fight because you're gonna in my house. You starved
if literally if you you know so. I learned to
be direct and hard and move fast because you know,
he who hesitates is lost in my family and things.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
We develop who we are from our child.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Yes, Oh, childhood trauma, we can do. We can weeks
on that subject.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It's crazy different for us.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
What about you.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
I think people know exactly who I am.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Oh see, I think you are kind.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm a crier, I'm sensitive. Maybe they don't realize how
sensitive I am.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I think no, I think people see all that in you.
I think people I don't think they misunderstanding about you.
But I think people think that you are always sweet,
always just a love button, which you are a lot
of time. But there is also a side of you
that can be tough.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
You don't see it to hurt somebody I love, or
you're pissing me off.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's the side I know.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
But I think a lot of people, and this came
from in my career in hair business, would the young
ones would say, I want to be like you when
I grow up. You don't let anything bother you. That
is so far from the truth. Yeah, it really is.
People think I'm stronger than ever and I can handle anything,
and I can I manage. But it hurts like things.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Yeah, well you know what I till you make it.
I think a lot of people who come across as
really strong have have weaker not weaker, have sensitive sides
where they just learn how to cope better or disguise it.
Pick a word. Coping skills or disguise it because they
don't want to have that conversation. They don't want to
(35:29):
show it. But here it is Christmas Eve, we learn
more about us. That is our Christmas holiday gift to
you all, getting to know a little bit more about us.
I speak for Susan and me when we wish those
of you who celebrate Christmas a very very happy Christmas
and and to the rest of the world happy, happy
(35:51):
New Year. That's right around the corner as well.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Yeah, we'll have an episode of talk about that next year.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
And unfortunately that's going to do it for this episode
of Bachelor Happy Hours.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Golden Thank you so much for joining us. As you know,
we have new episodes coming out every week and we're
going to stay current and talk about everything that's happening
out there. You don't want to miss.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Make sure to submit all your questions to us. You
can go to bachelornation dot com, slash Golden Hour, or
hit us up on socials at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
And listen to the Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour on
the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your podcast.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Oh hoh Hoy. The Holidays
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