August 13, 2025 • 42 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” Alli Jo and Sam M. from this season of “Paradise” are doing their first-ever interview as a couple! We’re diving into everything we all wanna know: How did they start dating? What were their “Paradise” experiences like? How did they feel knowing they just missed each other? We’re asking and they’re telling! We get to know their favorite parts of dating so far and what the future may hold. Plus: Have they said the L word yet? Then, we finish off the episode by dishing out advice to our listeners. The lovebirds give us their take on a few sticky situations, so if you’re looking for some guidance, look no further! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks
so much for coming back and joining us, and we
are so excited about today's episode.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Kathy, we certainly are. Just be sure to check out
our latest episode. We have been having so much fun
answering your questions, disagreeing with each other, chatting with all
your Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Nation face and today I'm so excited we have two
very special guests. Please welcome from this season of Paradise
New love birds, Allie Joe and Sam m if you will. Hi, guys,
welcome to that Golden Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What's up? Thanks for having us guys?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
How great are you? Okay, So we have so much
that we want to dive into today, so we're just
going to get things started right away. But I have
to say you make the most fabulous looking couple. I
just have to say that.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Right, That's something Kathy and I agree on.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, pretty one. She's a pretty one.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You're pretty pretty yourself. Sam. We're gonna give.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
You some credit.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
There's something I learned that Kathy and I both also.
Did we all have our motorcycle license? Yeah? I just
sold my bike like three years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
All right, but before before we talk about motorcycle because
you know, been there and done that. We have the
biggest question that everyone wants to know. How did you
two start dating?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Okay, I'll go first, Okay because I'm older, Older people
go first, ladies versa. So I reached out to him
a couple of months ago during Grand Season, like the
show was just on. I was teaching a rumble class
and one of my clients had said something to mean
a lotty before class at her son knew his sister
and it was like a mutual person. That person was
(02:05):
also from Jersey, so Jersey thing in common, and I
had messaged him and then I was like, I just
actually got compared to you on the show. It was
like right after the episode, after the basketball date. So
we started chatting a little bit. And then a couple
of months later, I posted a photo and he DMS
me and we started talking about paradise and we both
like didn't know if we were going or not. And
(02:26):
then he answered me and I stopped answering his messages.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And wait minute, I saw you stop answering his messages.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yes I can.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I ask why because we were like talking about paradise
and we both didn't know if we were going, but I
think we were both like hopeful, but he wasn't sure
if he wanted to. And I was like, if I'm
sitting at the time, I would want to go. But
I knew if I went and he went, like he
was somebody I wanted to meet. So I didn't want
to keep the conversation going and asking questions because if
he was going to be on the beach, I wanted
it to happen organically. I didn't want to know all
these things about him if he was going to go,
(02:58):
Like we both really didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Know, Joe. When you did get to Paradise, how did
you feel knowing that Sam had just gone home?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I was really really disappointed.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
But that's so I kept saying he was the only
person I really wanted to meet, and like, waiting to
go in, I knew I was coming in late with
a date card, like I was so confident, and I
was like, this is my opportunity, Like I've never had
a date on Grant season. People only saw like a
side of me, and I really really wanted to meet him,
and so I thought it was gonna be the perfect opportunity.
So to find out he had just went home, and
(03:28):
that was like, I was really shocked.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I was surprised. I was super disappointed.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah. So let me just say when I rolled into
Paradise and found out that both of you had gone home,
you know, truly, I was really disappointed because I wanted
to meet both of you in person. But I want
to know what were your experiences like each of you.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Yeah, I think they were kind of similar. I think
I was told that I was walking down with a date.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Card.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
I was extremely excited to take her out. She was
the only person that I had planned on taking, and
even in my interviews leading up to it, it was
the only She was the only name that I dropped.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And I mean, come on, sim you could have said
or maybe Kathy A Gold that I by kicking.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Listen, if you were there and she was, I would
have taken you. That's how I would have gone.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Anything you want, Sam, You're my man, all right, you boyd? Sorry?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
No, So it was it was kind of the same thing.
They told me that I was gonna go down late,
go down with the date card. I was really looking
forward to meeting her, taking her, and then I got
there and I kind of looked around and saw that
she wasn't there, And it was just really disheartening, I think,
because then I'm asking myself, like, what the hell am
I doing here right now?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You know? And no offense to any of the girls there.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I thought they were all sweet, but I kind of
knew what I was looking for going in there, and
it wasn't there whenever I got there. So now I'm
like asking myself, you know, am I am I wasting time?
Or I've come this far? Do we just try it
out and see how it all goes, even though we
probably know the way that it's going to happen. So
I think both of us kind of had the same story. Yeah,
(05:07):
So it was a I think a little disheartening maybe
in the moment not not getting it or not it
not happening on TV, But but we.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Knew we were going to make stuff happen. We didn't
need TV.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
I didn't need TV to, you know, to book a
plane ticket and go see.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Basically, Costa Rica is in your rear view mirror.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Once I found out she wasn't there and I was
going home, I'm like, all.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Right, well, we don't like to say that we met
on TV because we didn't technically.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Who called who first after the show.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I did, because he was already home. He didn't know
if I was there, like, he had no clue. So
I had gotten back and I got on my phone
and I messaged him and I said, hey, I heard
you were here just a couple of hours ago.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
And I was like really disappointed.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
I'm really upset, and he goes, chin up, here's my number,
give me a call. And I called him before I
got on the flight, and then ever since then, Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
God, so wait a minute, I want to know a
when was your first date and what's digging been like
so far? Like some of your best moments you've had.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
We've had a lot, and.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
We had a lot. I think it's scary. I think
a lot of it.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
One of my favorite moments was facetiming her for the
first time, and it was with her and her mom actually,
and this was fresh off of Paradise. I don't know
if we'd ever even spoke on the phone outside of.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Yeah, it was like Mother's Day weekend because after Paradise,
I was I was really like not in a great headspace.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I was actually like just depressed over everything.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
And I flew right to Jersey after Paradise and then
I facetimed him with my mom. We were going to
dinner and yeah, that was when we first started talking. Yeah,
but the first time he came to Florida was early June. Yeah,
so we were talking on the phone but facetiming for
about a month or so before he made his flight
to Florida.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I love this, I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I love it. Is there anybody just literally smiling?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Is there anybody from the season that you guys would
want to double date with? Do you have any favorite couple?
If you will, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
What would you say?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I don't know, because I'm watching the couples play out
right now. I'm like, there's so much drama.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We don't want the problem.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. True.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Yeah, I think everybody's just so different than And one
thing that really attracted me to her was just what
real life it really is.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You know, the show is awesome.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
And it but it only makes up just a certain
percentage of our lives and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And I think being able.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
To separate yourself from TV and reality and make sure
that reality is still at the top of your priority
list and not get caught up in any of this
other stuff was something that you know why I was
drawn to her as much as I have been, so.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think looking back at the show now, I.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Mean, I just want to say. I just want to
say again, Kathy is in Bachelor Nation and available for
double date. All you require is that you find me
the person that's going on the date with me.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's pretty simple.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Well, going to double date with you guys, and you're men.
But Katy, I remember I was talking to you and
I told you about him.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, yeah, in fact, in fact, we're to know. So
that's exactly where I was going. You read my mind.
I was going to ask you, did you tell you
anyone in Bachelor Nation that you were dating? For you
in public? And then I was going to say, besides me,
because you actually did tell me and Alie Joe, I
didn't tell anyone.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I can't tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I didn't tell Susan. I didn't tell anyone because it
wasn't mine to tell. But I was so happy for you.
Did you tell anyone else?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah, Juliana, I told We talked about it like we
were facetimed her.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, you told me that. Yeah, And so
that's it. Boy, I mean a really small league club here.
I feel on wait Kathy going.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
When we had Ellie Joe on the podcast, I specifically
asked her if perhaps you were asked to go on Paradise,
is there anyone in particular that you would hope to
be there and you were that wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Say anything because I didn't want to like put my
like eggs and basket or.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's what you said. That's what you said. You didn't
want to and you wanted to. You said you had
people in mind, by someone in mind, but you did
want to say who it was.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And I didn't either, because look what happened.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I got there and he wasn't there, and I me
and him talk about it, and I said it the
other day like I was still there. I still wanted
to make the most of my time. You know, you'd
put your life on pause. And I really felt like confident.
Well I felt confident before when I thought he was there,
but afterwards, I still wanted to get to know people
were still there. We're on this amazing opportunity and you
don't know what can transpire from it. So I was
going to like shoot myself in the foot. Yes, did
I want to be with him, of course. I mean listen,
(09:50):
I was only on beach for like thirty hours, thirty
six hours at that but it still had like a.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Nice time there.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
But again, I didn't want to go my EGS one
basket because you just don't know I could.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Have gotten there. So wait, I want to get back
to the So when you went public, what was that like?
Like posting didn't feel natural to go out, you know
because everything that happens on social media, you know, no
one reads. It's just a few people or ten million
one or the other.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
We kind of knew what we were getting into and
that's why I kind of teased everybody when she posted
that or I posted that photo and she's holding a
drink and I'm in the background, like we you know,
we knew what we were doing.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But did you love it that? People said, oh wait,
it's the same hand it was.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
It was really funny. It's like, oh, the fingernails are yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Red nails.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And then we saw each other again after that came
out and I got my nails and again, and I
was like, I'm doing a different color.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Let's see if people pick up.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Things. It gave me something to kind of like smile
at and uh, it's funny. Yeah, it was. It was
definitely funny.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
We never hid ourselves from anybody, even whenever I would
go see her, we walked around. We were how do
people come up to you? Yeah, they would, and we
would talk to anybody. If somebody wanted to take a
photo with us, I would just say, hey, you can
take one with her, but we just can't be in
the same photo yet together. So we really didn't really
want an instance where somebody. I thought somebody was taking
(11:15):
a photo of both of us and I was like, hey,
you can't post that. He's like, actually, I'm on FaceTime
with my sister or something like that. So so yeah,
we kind of knew what we were doing.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But we were trying to be careful.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You know, we are with this is real life.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, we want to live our life like we're not
on this anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So I watch what. We want to know what's going
on in your life? What what have you guys been
up to? We tell us what your life is like now.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, we both met each other's families.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
We both had like super big weekends like my mom,
my stepdad, my sister, my aunts, my uncles, and my
cousins like they were on Florida for my episode.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
He flew in that weekend. He took a rumble.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Class, the rumble class, and I met his entire family.
I watched some coach a baseball tournament. I met, Yeah,
his nieces, niece, nephew.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And how about where we're living? Where are you now? Sam?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'm still in.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You are in Myrtle Beach Okay, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And she's still in.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah. So you know the question. I'm asking it always
because I'm the batslor. Is anyone moving? I don't know.
Let's just pick two places, just pick them out of
bat anyone talking about moving to Myrtle Beach or maybe Florida?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, we talked about it on our six hour car
drive home from Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yes, long distance relationships, and that's not even really that
long of a distance. Trust me. I have a long distance,
as you know, and that is long. But this isn't
This is doable until.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I think it's it's tough, like knowing that she's leaving
today is it doesn't feel great. But what it does
is that any time that's spent with each other is
just so intentional. There's no for a dull moment. There's
never a complacent moment. It's really just absorbing every single
second of time. And also too, it tests your levels
(13:09):
of communication because you still want to show intention and
show like desire and you know, pursuit of what you
still want in kind of an unorthodox fashion.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So for right now, we're making that work.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, we see each other like every other weekend. It's
been great.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Do you do you have your next visit?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Some of the interviewed, I think it was Ben Higgins,
said that when he was dating way back in the
Dark Ages, he they never left without having their next
date planned. You are you guys doing that?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, we were.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
It's funny we were. I was literally just looking at
flights like twenty minutes ago. Yeah, we stay on top
of that. You want something to look forward to. I
think you know, it's kind of a running clock and
your tank gets gets to E and right now it's full.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Chaldging.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
But listen, like all of his friends and good friends
are like in relationships, married, have kids. All my really
good friends are in relationships too, So we're also at
that point, like I mean, at least me and to like,
we don't want to go out and just like go out,
just to go out.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
You know, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Guys? Again, you're older? Ally Joe, Right, how old are you?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I'm thirty one, I'm twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, I don't care. You know what I like?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I like the older women. I like the older women.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Wait a second, Wait a minute, Sam, I am the Kathy.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
She better be good to me if she's not.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Good to me, Joe, Ali, Joe, I'm tag teaming. I'm watching.
I say, you know you've been I'm hiding. All right,
listen to you, guys. We're gonna move into our advice
portion of the episode. We're going to kick things off
(14:51):
with our question of the day, and we want your
thoughts on it. Are you? Are you game? All right?
Here we go a lot of our listeners right in
about first dates turning in to second dates. What are
some signs that indicate the other person isn't interested that
most people miss?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, you're guys, let's see what you say.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Okay, I would say, checking your phone often during the
first date.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Who that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, I would say, not giving a firm answer as
to when the second date would be. I'll let you know,
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
What about you, Ali, Joe, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yeah, like what if they were on a first date
to see if it's a second date would happen?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well so yeah, and they're saying, like listeners say to us,
you know, we had we thought I thought it was
a great first date, but it never turns into a
second date. And what are some signs that you would
say that indicate the person that you're the first day
with isn't interested.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
That he doesn't you know, make sure you got home, okay,
call you the next day. How are you feel like
it doesn't need to be a whole big thing, like
we always say, like we don't want to text every day,
but like at least he should call her and say.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Hey, you know, I love seeing you last night. What's
your week? Like, let's get another date on the schedule
on calendar.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
We're all busy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
How about this one? If he lets you pay for
the date the first day and the.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
First date, you now it wasn't going to be a second.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Doesn't walk into your car. I mean there's you know,
it's you want.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
To know if he does actually that I love and
these are things I look for, Like I feel like
I'm more like old school, Like every single time we
get in the car, he opened my car door for me.
That is something that's so important to me and I
always look for that. And I've been on dates where
guys don't do that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So I have a question that that My question of
the day is. I mean, Susan and I have been
around the earth a few you know, a few times
around the sun. Whatever the expression is, and what is it?
Do you think women don't care if guys don't have
good manners, Because every time we interview someone, right, Susan,
(16:58):
they'll say, I'm old fashioned. Exactly what you said, Ali, Joe,
I'm old fashioned the door for me? What's the deal?
Do guys not care? Maybe better asking for you, Sam,
what what is the deal?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But I just think it comes back to probably the
way that you were raised. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I taught that right, absolutely taught respect your women and
your elder.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
I've got two sisters. My parents are still married, they've
been married for thirty plus years. And I think from
the South, everybody is extremely kind. But I tell her
all the time, I didn't open up her door one time,
and it was actually the very first time.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That I met her in the airport I was driving.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
And she was driving, and I didn't because some people
think it's weird. And I was like, I don't want
to come across in a certain in a certain way.
And then the next time I was like, you know,
I forget it. I'm going to do it, and I'm
going to explain to her, like if my mom was
here and she watched me not open up this door.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Or if it's pouring raining and you're running to the car, then.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I did.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Exactly exactly. So yeah, I just think it's the way
that you're raised. I think a lot of guys don't
know any better, and I think from the female side
of it, the whole chivalry is dead.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Comments it can we.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Just go on record here for anyone listening, chivalry is
not dead. Open the door for your lady.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Door, Open the door for your lady, and any other
lady's getting into the car, open up their door every
single time.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
How about sorry, when you're walking down the street and
you have her, you're holding hands, do you always stand
on the outside where the streets is that? I always
thought it was an Italian thing.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
But I guess do you I know the answer to this.
Do you mean at least is what I was told.
We could look it up. You know, why do you
know why women are supposed to walk on the inside
be safe?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, no it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Now again you know writers, here's writing and let me
know if I'm wrong. I've been told by more than
one person it dates way back to uh when people
used to take bedpants and slop and throw it out
the window, and so was to protect the woman being
inside if anyone got hit, it was going to be
the guy. Now, I don't know if that's true or not,
(19:17):
but I thought it was. I thought it was kind
of a cute story that, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
The guy that's safety right, So it's car.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You know, health and safety. Whatever. Wait nights before we
get into the next things. Your first date was where?
What was your first date? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
We we went to the beach, We went to a
happy hour, we went to dinner, and then we met
my friends out for the Panthers game.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And then what was a week long date? Weekends long?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
And then Saturday we woke up, we went for a walk,
we got coffee, and I had like little pregame.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
It was my best friend's thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Are we going to skip out on what you said
whenever I first got.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
There, Oh no, we're not stepping out because we're both
straight bar eyes.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I was like, I got nothing, Like, I don't think
I'm your type.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Really, why did you say that?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
You said that you didn't think he was his type.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I didn't think that I was his type.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
When would you say that?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Damn when, like, within like the first two hours hanging out.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Why did that come on like that?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Because he's, like, you know, from South Carolina. It's a
little slower pace here, mostly blonde girls like our girls
and sweet people.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Not that I'm not sweet, but just girls.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I feel like, and I don't want this sound wrong way,
but like maybe that don't have like a voice as much.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And you know, I mean you mean.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Alie Joe, you don't say bless your little heart.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So I learned what that meant.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I don't know if say a li I'm from Massachusetts,
so I live in Texas, where I was like, bless
your little heart? What?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
What?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah? But see I'm being from so I don't want that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Like I'm pretty good eighty percent, maybe ninety percent of
the time, but you know, if I ever kind of
wander off, like I need somebody that can put me
back in my place.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's right, She's not going to let you skip along.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay, Yeah, she's not that. That's that jersey girl in her. Okay, Well,
I have another question before we move on to our
next part. Sam, both of you, of course honesty here.
When you met each other for the first time, you
looked at each other's eyes, did you know.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
What?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Did you know?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Was it a feeling? Was it a for me? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I was just so excited.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I was like, this is either going to be something
that's amazing or it's going to be like a one
time thing. But the way we connected, I just I
was really excited.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I just knew.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I knew before I met her.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
How did you know?
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Back up I say whenever I say, I knew before
I met her, I knew what type of personality she had,
and I knew that her and I would get along
very well.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
What was it about her that you like?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That?
Speaker 1 (22:01):
What attracted you?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think just very unapologetically herself.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And outspoken, says what she thinks. Yes, she means and
means what she says.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Yeah, well sure, but she's also like very in touch
with her feminine side. And I actually really love that like,
I love somebody that doesn't feel like like she knows
that she doesn't have to wear the pants and anything,
she doesn't need to be the one to make all
the plans. She's a girly girl and I love that.
But she's also very strong and very independent and she
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will say things. She'll say what she wants and that's
what I need.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
But that's a perfect relationship when you're able to speak
whatever it is on your mind and be comfortable saying
it to your significant.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
All this up with the big bow of they're both
you are easy on the is, Sam and Ali Joe,
you are absolutely stunningly gorgeous. So I mean to get
all this in two packages. I don't know me hope
for the future.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I feel so lucky because usually, you know, if this
sounds horrible to say, but like sometimes there were people
who are really good looking have like a horrible personality
or like sometimes you know, but like he doesn't, and
I think we're both just like very genuine. And I
think people think he's a certain type of way just
from a show that they watched, you know, but I
know who he truly is, and I think his colors
show and yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
When your mom met him on the FaceTime, she was happy, right.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
She's like, oh my god, he's so cute, Like, what
are you going to be her? I was like, I
don't know, Mom, you're embarrassing me.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And how about you, Sam, when your family met?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Oh yeah, So my sister is a pretty harsh critic
and any girl that I ever dated, she's always like, Sam,
you could do better, you could do better. And then
I showed her a picture of Ali Joe and she's like, yeah,
I think that's your ceiling.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Sam. I'm like, yeah, yeah, they saw her and just
kind of the same thing.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Just just said like it looks like she has her
her shit together.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
She's just very like, very independent, just very well spoken,
put together and just thought that we'd make a perfect.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And I know you're also an efficient like I am.
So when that day comes, you know, you can call me,
let's go and Kathy comes. Whatever I do one, I
love it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I'll come and throw rose pedals and say I almost
had him.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
All right. Today, now we're going to answer some of
our viewers or our listeners questions and they like to
know what we think our advice. If you will, you
guys game to give some advice.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, okay, all right. The first one reads, Hi, guys,
I need to know if I'm in the wrong here.
The other night, I went on a hinge date with
a guy. Our plan was to pick up ingredients together
and cook since we both love cooking. Amazing right, Yeah, yeah,
I thought so too. We were in the car heading
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back to his place with groceries when he looked at
me and said, so funny story. I have a four
year old daughter. Hello, I'm twenty four. I can't be
a mom. I have so much respect for single parents,
and I have nothing against being a step parent later
down the line, but not when I'm a baby myself.
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I was polite during the rest of the date, knowing
i'd never see him again. Now my friends are split.
Some think I made the right choice, while others think
I blow off a great guy too soon. It was
a great date and I really do like him. I
don't know. What do you think? Thanks, ladies?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
What says you? What do you think? Guys?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think that if she, at the end of the
day isn't ready to be a step mom, then that
says a lot, no matter how much she likes But
I because you're not just dating the guy, you are
also essentially dating his family, like you know, so you
can't persuade yourself that you can do something of deep
down you know you can do it. So I would
take it as that's a great friend. Maybe down the
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line if she gets older and she decides like she's
ready for that, But if she's not ready for it now,
then she she's not ready, and that's okay.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's a little maybe
selfish to think that it would. It's so easy to
find true love later on down the road. And we
talked about this, you know, I think at twenty four,
you know, five years, five years can go by just
like that. And I've learned that the love that you
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want is not just you can't just open up your
door and it's right there in front of you.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
So if you that's what I've been doing wrong. I
sit my door waiting for her to open.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You got to get on the outside of the door.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Thank you, Sam.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You know, when when I was reading it her, as
soon as he said he had a daughter, she already
tuned amount she didn't give it a chance, and later
she really did like him.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, but I'm just going to play because I always
like to devil's advocate my stepmom and I know, Ali Joe,
you have a stepdad. My dad married my stepmother when
I was six and my stepmom was thirty two, and
she took on five children from the ages of six
to thirteen and had one of her own, so six
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kids at the age of thirty two. But she loved
my dad so much, you would they were married over
forty years before he died. I don't think she would
have done it end definitely because she loved him. But
I think people thought she was nuts when she married
my dad, and she would be the first to say
to you that it was really tough. So at twenty four,
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if she says I can't be a mom, that I'm
with you, Ali Joe. It's saying that she does doesn't
want to do it. And if you don't want to
do it, that child comes along with this fabulous guy
and it's a package deal, right. So if she does
can't be a mom for whatever reason, I think she
has to move along.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I don't have been true to herself. But she says
it's a great date. I really do like them. I
don't know what to do. So she's questioning something, But
how did you guys feel about I love the date,
thing about going to get the groceries and making dinner
and then you spring that on her in the car.
I think that's a conversation that maybe should have been
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had prior to the date. On Hinge.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
You can say if you have a kid or not,
so like Heke should have been a little bit more honest,
because if she saw that, she might have never want
on the dates with and this issue wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Have So it's a lie. It's a lib biomission. Right.
It's the same thing if I go on Hinge and
put my age down it's fifty five. It's just a
small detail. It's just a little right, a little one.
I mean, if you really like me, do you care
how old I am? So four year old kid who
cares that.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
He put her in a bad spot by not being
honest off that, because that's something you got to know.
And she's got to make that decision immediately, because it's
the kid that will end up paying the consequences for
honesty between two adults.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, I do wish you luck and if you can't
stop thinking about him, then maybe reevaluate the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I always say that, Like if I'm shopping and there's
like a really nice pair of jeans that I want,
but I'm not sure if I really want to spend
the money. If I keep thinking about want the jeans
and I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Go, I always want them though, well, Joe, I always.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, Susan gets herself into trouble. All right, So you
now we've we've talked about other people's We're going to
give you a chance to ask us some questions. But Ali, Joe,
you know me a little bit. You know I'm going
to do this to you, So let's just spring for it. Okay,
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do you think each other are the one? Are you
each other?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's them? See it?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
That's Susan for them to answer, I see it. You
can yell at me later.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I yeah, yes, listen.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I think we have a lot of things to like
figure out, like living wise, like right now, it's like
working right now. But I think living with somebody tells
you a lot about them and changes things.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
But that but that doesn't mean that when I say
are you the one, it means the one that at
this point I see myself spending the rest of my
life with.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yeah, to me, it's like all in or nothing. I'm
not going to lose my time or someone else's time.
And I'm not dating just to date, like I'm dating
someone to see a potential future with. And We've had
like conversations of things.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
But Ali Joe, it is time to fess up. Do
we say, have you told them about your four year
old child? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
My, is the l word happening?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I don't know. I really I have no idea is
that happening.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
I think we're just kind of like moving at our
own pace. And I think one thing that we both
love a lot is keeping what we have between us.
There's certain things that I don't mind sharing with the world,
and then there's other things where I'm like, this is something.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
For you guys. Just know that we all envaccination. We
are really rooting for you guys because we're both wonderful people.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
We weren't sure, honestly, we weren't sure.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
We're also like this is us, like if you know
people will support it or not, So that we were
really happy to see some really kind comments and just like,
yeah from people is really nice.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Focused on those guys, So it was nice to see.
I said, look, she's already, she's already making me look better.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
So I met. I absolutely love it all right, what
do you have questions for us?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
If any I want to go, you want to go first? Well, yeah,
how's your relationship?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's absolutely perfect. He loved being in the United States.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Okay, because I know you were like in the what
island were you in? I know you were in Saint
Martin St.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Martin. I was going to say Saint Thomas.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah. So when he was leaving, he saw New York,
he saw Jersey, sure, he saw the casinos. He's all
South Jersey. I had him everywhere, and when he was leaving,
he's like, when are we going to see each other?
And I gave him dates. I only have a week
and he was like, Darling, that's not long enough. I
come back. So he's coming back.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Doing like the long distance thing too.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
You know, it's it's not easy, but I would say
nothing worth having Kevin comes Easy's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
What about me.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
In Canada right now?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
At the moment, I'm CAUs my sister lives in Ottawa
and I've been here. My family came up, my kids,
my grandkids, came up. You want to know about my
dating life?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yes, you hear it, Although you just did a show an.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Amazing I gotta tell you, Uh, you know, I went
when Keith came on the show, when we were on
the show and Keith said, Kathy and I I have
no romantic neither of us. We're just good friends. But
you know, I was like, great, Now my d ms
are gonna flood with you.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Do you remember that, Katy, even that we're getting off
a Golden Bachelor. Oh, your dms are gonna blow.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Up all these honestly, Honestly, Sam, though, the truth is
I would I have a ton of energy. I love
to do adventure, I love to do stuff, and I
would love to find that person that would love to
share uh this stage, this last great chapter of my life.
I would love to find that person. But here's what
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one of the main things I've learned about myself is
I am a complete and happy person. Why I am,
and I have great family and great grandkids. And if
it happens, it's great. And if it doesn't happen, then
you know, I can chase after you when Alie Joe's
you know it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Work, That's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You know, share and share a like do unto others
all those things. Well, I'm a happy person. Friendship, but
anyone have a But since you brought up Sam, you
got a father and uncle, a stepfather.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Grand listen, we do I know a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
So we should do like a dating game. You guys
should come here, we go there, and.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Come on come to oft.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I think US three would have obviously seased you two
if you're in Paris, but US through we're in Paris
the same time, Like that would have been.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Our own show.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, I was so disappointed you guys weren't there. I
really was, and.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I'm disappointed, but you weren't there at the same time.
It would have been great.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
What do you guys think about the show so far?
What do you guys think about the money the money aspect.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I think it changed the dynamic of everything. I mean,
it was exciting that you could win, but I don't
trust any of the relationships now. It put it, yeah,
a twist, I do.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I think. You know they say not for love, nor
money or money corrupts. I think it can. I think
it's an interesting aspect to the show. It definitely changes
the show, but in some ways, I think it makes
it more interesting and just seeing how some of the
relationships are going to play out. I'm loving watching the show.
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I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm such a romantic I'm in love with love and
I've seen couples that like disappointed me when I saw
some things that were happening, like I really believe they
were really in it together, and now I'm looking like
you bastards.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I'll tell you, I always want to know, and I
you know, I will ask almost anything, but I want
to know when. Like when I watched back the show
in my own I'm not surprised. I mean, I know
what I said, I know what I did. But I
wonder when other people watch the show back in those
that are in relationships, what do they think about hearing
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things about their guy or girl that they didn't know happened.
That always just just from a yeah, we sociological point
of view.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
We talked about that.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Yeah, because you don't know, and there's anything that you
weren't honest with maybe to her, and it was in
front of a camera and then you're kind of playing.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
You have no idea it could get shown. It cannot.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
So is there any specific couple that you really have
hopes for as of right now? What you see, I would.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Say Spencer and Justin don't really just like the most
genuine for each other and like good energy and for
the right reasons and like not for clouts.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Yeah, yeah, I like them a lot, I think, I mean,
especially because I took Jess on a date.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Whenever I was.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
There, did look at you like you joke about it?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Episode and I was like, how was that spongebath?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Do you like any shower?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
When he takes a shower, I'm like, you want a
sponge bath?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
That's cute.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah. No, I think that they're I think that they're
really good for each other.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
Though I think that I probably put Jess and it
really I don't think it was a difficult decision for
her at all, And I think that just spoke volumes
about her commitment to Spencer at that time, and then
to see them like still kicking it and going strong
right now. Out of everybody, I know, every relationship has
its challenges. I think the weight of those challenges though,
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can They're all different, and it seems like maybe their
obstacles and their challenges are a little bit lighter and
maybe a little bit more reasonable than what I'm seeing
from a lot of these other relationships.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
On what did you think? I have to ask you
what did you think about the Goldens? And be nice,
what did you think about the Goldens.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Being on listen? I think that you guys are the
freaking best. I'm just pissed that I didn't get to
meet you guys. And the whole world loves you guys too.
It's kind of funny. I joke with her about it.
I'm like, yeah, we all went on Gen season, weren't
really like Grant season, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
But and then the Goldens came about and everybody's like
the Golden Yeah, yeah, And I didn't get to see
you guys. You guys came in hot.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
They did great entrance entrance.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I I you know, by I don't you saw it?
But my secret that whole thing, like damn, I was
getting a date because I did not get a date
on our season. I was determined I was scoring to
win a date.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah that's how I felt too.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
So do you do every other one who travels to
who is that part of a thing.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Or yeah, but it doesn't really bother I was like,
there's been occurrences where like I came here the past
couple of times, but that's okay because like we went
to Atlanta this weekend.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Different.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
It just like has worked out like like that, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Your schedule is flexible enough.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, it depends.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I mean, Sam, I gotta ask one more question you
you are you not afraid that she could haul off
and give you a left jab and a right hook.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Listen, that's what I That's what I kind of like
though a little bit, I'm like, yeah, I gotta be
all my best behavior for the most part.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
So yeah, he's very like supportive.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Like I've gone to him a couple of things have
been going on with like personal things, and I've gone
to like ask for questions and just advice, and he's
given me the best advice and just been so supportive.
So that was something that was really important to me
because you know, we're not together, so to pick up
a phone or to have like important conversations on FaceTime,
you know, you don't.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Want it to be here.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
And I think it's just it's not like it was
a test, but I think it's a good test to see,
you know, when things do go sideways or south in
life because how it happens, like how he'll show up there,
how he'll show up for me.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
So let me say, we don't know whether you guys
what your fuguals, but Susan, would you not agree he
the words you guys are using. You show up for
each other, You listen, you communicate well, you spend time
making time for each other, all your families get along.
All these things are ingredients that make a good relationship.
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And so, whether you know, our hope is that it
just continues to grow.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
For you listen to friends, they paid attention. The friendship
has to be strong, yes, right, and we see it.
We see it. We love this.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
When you care that much, it's it's easy.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
It's easy to listen when the person front of you.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
You, oh, she's gonna cry, Okay, come over it.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
We love this. I hate to say this, but I
think that does it. For today's episode A Bachelor Happy Hours,
Golden Hour, I want to thank you both for opening
up to us and being here with us today. It
means the world to us, right, Katy, really?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Thanks you guys. Your advice was great. We love seeing
you guys so happy. Thank you all so much for
joining us, and be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour
because we do have new episodes coming out every week
that you don't want to miss. Today you heard all
about Sam and Ali Joe, Well, you don't know who's
around the corner.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
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Speaker 2 (41:57):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour or on the
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next time, have a great week.
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hour's Golden Hour. Thanks
so much for coming back and joining us, and we
are so excited about today's episode.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Kathy, we certainly are. Just be sure to check out
our latest episode. We have been having so much fun
answering your questions, disagreeing with each other, chatting with all
your Bachelor.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Nation face and today I'm so excited we have two
very special guests. Please welcome from this season of Paradise
New love birds, Allie Joe and Sam m if you will. Hi, guys,
welcome to that Golden Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
What's up? Thanks for having us guys?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
How great are you? Okay, So we have so much
that we want to dive into today, so we're just
going to get things started right away. But I have
to say you make the most fabulous looking couple. I
just have to say that.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Right, That's something Kathy and I agree on.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yes, pretty one. She's a pretty one.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
You're pretty pretty yourself. Sam. We're gonna give.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
You some credit.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
There's something I learned that Kathy and I both also.
Did we all have our motorcycle license? Yeah? I just
sold my bike like three years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
All right, but before before we talk about motorcycle because
you know, been there and done that. We have the
biggest question that everyone wants to know. How did you
two start dating?
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Okay, I'll go first, Okay because I'm older, Older people
go first, ladies versa. So I reached out to him
a couple of months ago during Grand Season, like the
show was just on. I was teaching a rumble class
and one of my clients had said something to mean
a lotty before class at her son knew his sister
and it was like a mutual person. That person was
(02:05):
also from Jersey, so Jersey thing in common, and I
had messaged him and then I was like, I just
actually got compared to you on the show. It was
like right after the episode, after the basketball date. So
we started chatting a little bit. And then a couple
of months later, I posted a photo and he DMS
me and we started talking about paradise and we both
like didn't know if we were going or not. And
(02:26):
then he answered me and I stopped answering his messages.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And wait minute, I saw you stop answering his messages.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yes I can.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I ask why because we were like talking about paradise
and we both didn't know if we were going, but I
think we were both like hopeful, but he wasn't sure
if he wanted to. And I was like, if I'm
sitting at the time, I would want to go. But
I knew if I went and he went, like he
was somebody I wanted to meet. So I didn't want
to keep the conversation going and asking questions because if
he was going to be on the beach, I wanted
it to happen organically. I didn't want to know all
these things about him if he was going to go,
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Like we both really didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Know, Joe. When you did get to Paradise, how did
you feel knowing that Sam had just gone home?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I was really really disappointed.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
But that's so I kept saying he was the only
person I really wanted to meet, and like, waiting to
go in, I knew I was coming in late with
a date card, like I was so confident, and I
was like, this is my opportunity, Like I've never had
a date on Grant season. People only saw like a
side of me, and I really really wanted to meet him,
and so I thought it was gonna be the perfect opportunity.
So to find out he had just went home, and
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that was like, I was really shocked.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I was surprised. I was super disappointed.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah. So let me just say when I rolled into
Paradise and found out that both of you had gone home,
you know, truly, I was really disappointed because I wanted
to meet both of you in person. But I want
to know what were your experiences like each of you.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
Yeah, I think they were kind of similar. I think
I was told that I was walking down with a date.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Card.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
I was extremely excited to take her out. She was
the only person that I had planned on taking, and
even in my interviews leading up to it, it was
the only She was the only name that I dropped.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
And I mean, come on, sim you could have said
or maybe Kathy A Gold that I by kicking.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Listen, if you were there and she was, I would
have taken you. That's how I would have gone.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Anything you want, Sam, You're my man, all right, you boyd? Sorry?
Speaker 6 (04:22):
No, So it was it was kind of the same thing.
They told me that I was gonna go down late,
go down with the date card. I was really looking
forward to meeting her, taking her, and then I got
there and I kind of looked around and saw that
she wasn't there, And it was just really disheartening, I think,
because then I'm asking myself, like, what the hell am
I doing here right now?
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You know? And no offense to any of the girls there.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I thought they were all sweet, but I kind of
knew what I was looking for going in there, and
it wasn't there whenever I got there. So now I'm
like asking myself, you know, am I am I wasting time?
Or I've come this far? Do we just try it
out and see how it all goes, even though we
probably know the way that it's going to happen. So
I think both of us kind of had the same story. Yeah,
(05:07):
So it was a I think a little disheartening maybe
in the moment not not getting it or not it
not happening on TV, But but we.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Knew we were going to make stuff happen. We didn't
need TV.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
I didn't need TV to, you know, to book a
plane ticket and go see.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Basically, Costa Rica is in your rear view mirror.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Once I found out she wasn't there and I was
going home, I'm like, all.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Right, well, we don't like to say that we met
on TV because we didn't technically.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Who called who first after the show.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
I did, because he was already home. He didn't know
if I was there, like, he had no clue. So
I had gotten back and I got on my phone
and I messaged him and I said, hey, I heard
you were here just a couple of hours ago.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
And I was like really disappointed.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
I'm really upset, and he goes, chin up, here's my number,
give me a call. And I called him before I
got on the flight, and then ever since then, Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
God, so wait a minute, I want to know a
when was your first date and what's digging been like
so far? Like some of your best moments you've had.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
We've had a lot, and.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
We had a lot. I think it's scary. I think
a lot of it.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
One of my favorite moments was facetiming her for the
first time, and it was with her and her mom actually,
and this was fresh off of Paradise. I don't know
if we'd ever even spoke on the phone outside of.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Yeah, it was like Mother's Day weekend because after Paradise,
I was I was really like not in a great headspace.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
I was actually like just depressed over everything.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
And I flew right to Jersey after Paradise and then
I facetimed him with my mom. We were going to
dinner and yeah, that was when we first started talking. Yeah,
but the first time he came to Florida was early June. Yeah,
so we were talking on the phone but facetiming for
about a month or so before he made his flight
to Florida.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I love this, I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I love it. Is there anybody just literally smiling?
Speaker 6 (07:02):
Right?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Is there anybody from the season that you guys would
want to double date with? Do you have any favorite couple?
If you will, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
What would you say?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I don't know, because I'm watching the couples play out
right now. I'm like, there's so much drama.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
We don't want the problem.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. True.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
Yeah, I think everybody's just so different than And one
thing that really attracted me to her was just what
real life it really is.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
You know, the show is awesome.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
And it but it only makes up just a certain
percentage of our lives and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
And I think being able.
Speaker 6 (07:41):
To separate yourself from TV and reality and make sure
that reality is still at the top of your priority
list and not get caught up in any of this
other stuff was something that you know why I was
drawn to her as much as I have been, so.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I think looking back at the show now, I.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Mean, I just want to say. I just want to
say again, Kathy is in Bachelor Nation and available for
double date. All you require is that you find me
the person that's going on the date with me.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
It's pretty simple.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
Well, going to double date with you guys, and you're men.
But Katy, I remember I was talking to you and
I told you about him.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yes, yeah, in fact, in fact, we're to know. So
that's exactly where I was going. You read my mind.
I was going to ask you, did you tell you
anyone in Bachelor Nation that you were dating? For you
in public? And then I was going to say, besides me,
because you actually did tell me and Alie Joe, I
didn't tell anyone.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I can't tell anybody.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I didn't tell Susan. I didn't tell anyone because it
wasn't mine to tell. But I was so happy for you.
Did you tell anyone else?
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Yeah, Juliana, I told We talked about it like we
were facetimed her.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, you told me that. Yeah, And so
that's it. Boy, I mean a really small league club here.
I feel on wait Kathy going.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
When we had Ellie Joe on the podcast, I specifically
asked her if perhaps you were asked to go on Paradise,
is there anyone in particular that you would hope to
be there and you were that wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Say anything because I didn't want to like put my
like eggs and basket or.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's what you said. That's what you said. You didn't
want to and you wanted to. You said you had
people in mind, by someone in mind, but you did
want to say who it was.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
And I didn't either, because look what happened.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
I got there and he wasn't there, and I me
and him talk about it, and I said it the
other day like I was still there. I still wanted
to make the most of my time. You know, you'd
put your life on pause. And I really felt like confident.
Well I felt confident before when I thought he was there,
but afterwards, I still wanted to get to know people
were still there. We're on this amazing opportunity and you
don't know what can transpire from it. So I was
going to like shoot myself in the foot. Yes, did
I want to be with him, of course. I mean listen,
(09:50):
I was only on beach for like thirty hours, thirty
six hours at that but it still had like a.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
Nice time there.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
But again, I didn't want to go my EGS one
basket because you just don't know I could.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Have gotten there. So wait, I want to get back
to the So when you went public, what was that like?
Like posting didn't feel natural to go out, you know
because everything that happens on social media, you know, no
one reads. It's just a few people or ten million
one or the other.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
We kind of knew what we were getting into and
that's why I kind of teased everybody when she posted
that or I posted that photo and she's holding a
drink and I'm in the background, like we you know,
we knew what we were doing.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
But did you love it that? People said, oh wait,
it's the same hand it was.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
It was really funny. It's like, oh, the fingernails are yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Red nails.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And then we saw each other again after that came
out and I got my nails and again, and I
was like, I'm doing a different color.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Let's see if people pick up.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Things. It gave me something to kind of like smile
at and uh, it's funny. Yeah, it was. It was
definitely funny.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
We never hid ourselves from anybody, even whenever I would
go see her, we walked around. We were how do
people come up to you? Yeah, they would, and we
would talk to anybody. If somebody wanted to take a
photo with us, I would just say, hey, you can
take one with her, but we just can't be in
the same photo yet together. So we really didn't really
want an instance where somebody. I thought somebody was taking
(11:15):
a photo of both of us and I was like, hey,
you can't post that. He's like, actually, I'm on FaceTime
with my sister or something like that. So so yeah,
we kind of knew what we were doing.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
But we were trying to be careful.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
You know, we are with this is real life.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, we want to live our life like we're not
on this anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So I watch what. We want to know what's going
on in your life? What what have you guys been
up to? We tell us what your life is like now.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, we both met each other's families.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
We both had like super big weekends like my mom,
my stepdad, my sister, my aunts, my uncles, and my
cousins like they were on Florida for my episode.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
He flew in that weekend. He took a rumble.
Speaker 5 (11:52):
Class, the rumble class, and I met his entire family.
I watched some coach a baseball tournament. I met, Yeah,
his nieces, niece, nephew.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
And how about where we're living? Where are you now? Sam?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I'm still in.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
You are in Myrtle Beach Okay, yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
And she's still in.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah. So you know the question. I'm asking it always
because I'm the batslor. Is anyone moving? I don't know.
Let's just pick two places, just pick them out of
bat anyone talking about moving to Myrtle Beach or maybe Florida?
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, we talked about it on our six hour car
drive home from Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yes, long distance relationships, and that's not even really that
long of a distance. Trust me. I have a long distance,
as you know, and that is long. But this isn't
This is doable until.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I think it's it's tough, like knowing that she's leaving
today is it doesn't feel great. But what it does
is that any time that's spent with each other is
just so intentional. There's no for a dull moment. There's
never a complacent moment. It's really just absorbing every single
second of time. And also too, it tests your levels
(13:09):
of communication because you still want to show intention and
show like desire and you know, pursuit of what you
still want in kind of an unorthodox fashion.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
So for right now, we're making that work.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, we see each other like every other weekend. It's
been great.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Do you do you have your next visit?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Some of the interviewed, I think it was Ben Higgins,
said that when he was dating way back in the
Dark Ages, he they never left without having their next
date planned. You are you guys doing that?
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah, we were.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
It's funny we were. I was literally just looking at
flights like twenty minutes ago. Yeah, we stay on top
of that. You want something to look forward to. I
think you know, it's kind of a running clock and
your tank gets gets to E and right now it's full.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Chaldging.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
But listen, like all of his friends and good friends
are like in relationships, married, have kids. All my really
good friends are in relationships too, So we're also at
that point, like I mean, at least me and to like,
we don't want to go out and just like go out,
just to go out.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
You know, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Guys? Again, you're older? Ally Joe, Right, how old are you?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I'm thirty one, I'm twenty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, I don't care. You know what I like?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
I like the older women. I like the older women.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Wait a second, Wait a minute, Sam, I am the Kathy.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
She better be good to me if she's not.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Good to me, Joe, Ali, Joe, I'm tag teaming. I'm watching.
I say, you know you've been I'm hiding. All right,
listen to you, guys. We're gonna move into our advice
portion of the episode. We're going to kick things off
(14:51):
with our question of the day, and we want your
thoughts on it. Are you? Are you game? All right?
Here we go a lot of our listeners right in
about first dates turning in to second dates. What are
some signs that indicate the other person isn't interested that
most people miss?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, you're guys, let's see what you say.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Okay, I would say, checking your phone often during the
first date.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Who that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, I would say, not giving a firm answer as
to when the second date would be. I'll let you know,
kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
What about you, Ali, Joe, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yeah, like what if they were on a first date
to see if it's a second date would happen?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Well so yeah, and they're saying, like listeners say to us,
you know, we had we thought I thought it was
a great first date, but it never turns into a
second date. And what are some signs that you would
say that indicate the person that you're the first day
with isn't interested.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
That he doesn't you know, make sure you got home, okay,
call you the next day. How are you feel like
it doesn't need to be a whole big thing, like
we always say, like we don't want to text every day,
but like at least he should call her and say.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Hey, you know, I love seeing you last night. What's
your week? Like, let's get another date on the schedule
on calendar.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
We're all busy.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
How about this one? If he lets you pay for
the date the first day and the.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
First date, you now it wasn't going to be a second.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Doesn't walk into your car. I mean there's you know,
it's you want.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
To know if he does actually that I love and
these are things I look for, Like I feel like
I'm more like old school, Like every single time we
get in the car, he opened my car door for me.
That is something that's so important to me and I
always look for that. And I've been on dates where
guys don't do that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
So I have a question that that My question of
the day is. I mean, Susan and I have been
around the earth a few you know, a few times
around the sun. Whatever the expression is, and what is it?
Do you think women don't care if guys don't have
good manners, Because every time we interview someone, right, Susan,
(16:58):
they'll say, I'm old fashioned. Exactly what you said, Ali, Joe,
I'm old fashioned the door for me? What's the deal?
Do guys not care? Maybe better asking for you, Sam,
what what is the deal?
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But I just think it comes back to probably the
way that you were raised. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
I taught that right, absolutely taught respect your women and
your elder.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
I've got two sisters. My parents are still married, they've
been married for thirty plus years. And I think from
the South, everybody is extremely kind. But I tell her
all the time, I didn't open up her door one time,
and it was actually the very first time.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
That I met her in the airport I was driving.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
And she was driving, and I didn't because some people
think it's weird. And I was like, I don't want
to come across in a certain in a certain way.
And then the next time I was like, you know,
I forget it. I'm going to do it, and I'm
going to explain to her, like if my mom was
here and she watched me not open up this door.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Or if it's pouring raining and you're running to the car, then.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I did.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
Exactly exactly. So yeah, I just think it's the way
that you're raised. I think a lot of guys don't
know any better, and I think from the female side
of it, the whole chivalry is dead.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Comments it can we.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Just go on record here for anyone listening, chivalry is
not dead. Open the door for your lady.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Door, Open the door for your lady, and any other
lady's getting into the car, open up their door every
single time.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
How about sorry, when you're walking down the street and
you have her, you're holding hands, do you always stand
on the outside where the streets is that? I always
thought it was an Italian thing.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
But I guess do you I know the answer to this.
Do you mean at least is what I was told.
We could look it up. You know, why do you
know why women are supposed to walk on the inside
be safe?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah, no it's not.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Now again you know writers, here's writing and let me
know if I'm wrong. I've been told by more than
one person it dates way back to uh when people
used to take bedpants and slop and throw it out
the window, and so was to protect the woman being
inside if anyone got hit, it was going to be
the guy. Now, I don't know if that's true or not,
(19:17):
but I thought it was. I thought it was kind
of a cute story that, you know.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
The guy that's safety right, So it's car.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You know, health and safety. Whatever. Wait nights before we
get into the next things. Your first date was where?
What was your first date? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
We we went to the beach, We went to a
happy hour, we went to dinner, and then we met
my friends out for the Panthers game.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
And then what was a week long date? Weekends long?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
And then Saturday we woke up, we went for a walk,
we got coffee, and I had like little pregame.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
It was my best friend's thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Are we going to skip out on what you said
whenever I first got.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
There, Oh no, we're not stepping out because we're both
straight bar eyes.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
I was like, I got nothing, Like, I don't think
I'm your type.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Really, why did you say that?
Speaker 2 (20:05):
You said that you didn't think he was his type.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
I didn't think that I was his type.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
When would you say that?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Damn when, like, within like the first two hours hanging out.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Why did that come on like that?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Because he's, like, you know, from South Carolina. It's a
little slower pace here, mostly blonde girls like our girls
and sweet people.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Not that I'm not sweet, but just girls.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I feel like, and I don't want this sound wrong way,
but like maybe that don't have like a voice as much.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And you know, I mean you mean.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Alie Joe, you don't say bless your little heart.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So I learned what that meant.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
I don't know if say a li I'm from Massachusetts,
so I live in Texas, where I was like, bless
your little heart? What?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
What?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yeah? But see I'm being from so I don't want that.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Like I'm pretty good eighty percent, maybe ninety percent of
the time, but you know, if I ever kind of
wander off, like I need somebody that can put me
back in my place.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's right, She's not going to let you skip along.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay, Yeah, she's not that. That's that jersey girl in her. Okay, Well,
I have another question before we move on to our
next part. Sam, both of you, of course honesty here.
When you met each other for the first time, you
looked at each other's eyes, did you know.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
What?
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Did you know?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Was it a feeling? Was it a for me? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
I was just so excited.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
I was like, this is either going to be something
that's amazing or it's going to be like a one
time thing. But the way we connected, I just I
was really excited.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I just knew.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I knew before I met her.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
How did you know?
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Back up I say whenever I say, I knew before
I met her, I knew what type of personality she had,
and I knew that her and I would get along
very well.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
What was it about her that you like?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
That?
Speaker 1 (22:01):
What attracted you?
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think just very unapologetically herself.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And outspoken, says what she thinks. Yes, she means and
means what she says.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Yeah, well sure, but she's also like very in touch
with her feminine side. And I actually really love that like,
I love somebody that doesn't feel like like she knows
that she doesn't have to wear the pants and anything,
she doesn't need to be the one to make all
the plans. She's a girly girl and I love that.
But she's also very strong and very independent and she
(22:33):
will say things. She'll say what she wants and that's
what I need.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
But that's a perfect relationship when you're able to speak
whatever it is on your mind and be comfortable saying
it to your significant.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
All this up with the big bow of they're both
you are easy on the is, Sam and Ali Joe,
you are absolutely stunningly gorgeous. So I mean to get
all this in two packages. I don't know me hope
for the future.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
I feel so lucky because usually, you know, if this
sounds horrible to say, but like sometimes there were people
who are really good looking have like a horrible personality
or like sometimes you know, but like he doesn't, and
I think we're both just like very genuine. And I
think people think he's a certain type of way just
from a show that they watched, you know, but I
know who he truly is, and I think his colors
show and yeah, kind of.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
When your mom met him on the FaceTime, she was happy, right.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
She's like, oh my god, he's so cute, Like, what
are you going to be her? I was like, I
don't know, Mom, you're embarrassing me.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And how about you, Sam, when your family met?
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Oh yeah, So my sister is a pretty harsh critic
and any girl that I ever dated, she's always like, Sam,
you could do better, you could do better. And then
I showed her a picture of Ali Joe and she's like, yeah,
I think that's your ceiling.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Sam. I'm like, yeah, yeah, they saw her and just
kind of the same thing.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Just just said like it looks like she has her
her shit together.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
She's just very like, very independent, just very well spoken,
put together and just thought that we'd make a perfect.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
And I know you're also an efficient like I am.
So when that day comes, you know, you can call me,
let's go and Kathy comes. Whatever I do one, I
love it.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I'll come and throw rose pedals and say I almost
had him.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
All right. Today, now we're going to answer some of
our viewers or our listeners questions and they like to
know what we think our advice. If you will, you
guys game to give some advice.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Yeah, okay, all right. The first one reads, Hi, guys,
I need to know if I'm in the wrong here.
The other night, I went on a hinge date with
a guy. Our plan was to pick up ingredients together
and cook since we both love cooking. Amazing right, Yeah, yeah,
I thought so too. We were in the car heading
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back to his place with groceries when he looked at
me and said, so funny story. I have a four
year old daughter. Hello, I'm twenty four. I can't be
a mom. I have so much respect for single parents,
and I have nothing against being a step parent later
down the line, but not when I'm a baby myself.
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I was polite during the rest of the date, knowing
i'd never see him again. Now my friends are split.
Some think I made the right choice, while others think
I blow off a great guy too soon. It was
a great date and I really do like him. I
don't know. What do you think? Thanks, ladies?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
What says you? What do you think? Guys?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I think that if she, at the end of the
day isn't ready to be a step mom, then that
says a lot, no matter how much she likes But
I because you're not just dating the guy, you are
also essentially dating his family, like you know, so you
can't persuade yourself that you can do something of deep
down you know you can do it. So I would
take it as that's a great friend. Maybe down the
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line if she gets older and she decides like she's
ready for that, But if she's not ready for it now,
then she she's not ready, and that's okay.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's a little maybe
selfish to think that it would. It's so easy to
find true love later on down the road. And we
talked about this, you know, I think at twenty four,
you know, five years, five years can go by just
like that. And I've learned that the love that you
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want is not just you can't just open up your
door and it's right there in front of you.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
So if you that's what I've been doing wrong. I
sit my door waiting for her to open.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You got to get on the outside of the door.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Thank you, Sam.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
You know, when when I was reading it her, as
soon as he said he had a daughter, she already
tuned amount she didn't give it a chance, and later
she really did like him.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah, but I'm just going to play because I always
like to devil's advocate my stepmom and I know, Ali Joe,
you have a stepdad. My dad married my stepmother when
I was six and my stepmom was thirty two, and
she took on five children from the ages of six
to thirteen and had one of her own, so six
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kids at the age of thirty two. But she loved
my dad so much, you would they were married over
forty years before he died. I don't think she would
have done it end definitely because she loved him. But
I think people thought she was nuts when she married
my dad, and she would be the first to say
to you that it was really tough. So at twenty four,
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if she says I can't be a mom, that I'm
with you, Ali Joe. It's saying that she does doesn't
want to do it. And if you don't want to
do it, that child comes along with this fabulous guy
and it's a package deal, right. So if she does
can't be a mom for whatever reason, I think she
has to move along.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
I don't have been true to herself. But she says
it's a great date. I really do like them. I
don't know what to do. So she's questioning something, But
how did you guys feel about I love the date,
thing about going to get the groceries and making dinner
and then you spring that on her in the car.
I think that's a conversation that maybe should have been
(28:34):
had prior to the date. On Hinge.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
You can say if you have a kid or not,
so like Heke should have been a little bit more honest,
because if she saw that, she might have never want
on the dates with and this issue wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Have So it's a lie. It's a lib biomission. Right.
It's the same thing if I go on Hinge and
put my age down it's fifty five. It's just a
small detail. It's just a little right, a little one.
I mean, if you really like me, do you care
how old I am? So four year old kid who
cares that.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
He put her in a bad spot by not being
honest off that, because that's something you got to know.
And she's got to make that decision immediately, because it's
the kid that will end up paying the consequences for
honesty between two adults.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, I do wish you luck and if you can't
stop thinking about him, then maybe reevaluate the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I always say that, Like if I'm shopping and there's
like a really nice pair of jeans that I want,
but I'm not sure if I really want to spend
the money. If I keep thinking about want the jeans
and I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Go, I always want them though, well, Joe, I always.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, Susan gets herself into trouble. All right, So you
now we've we've talked about other people's We're going to
give you a chance to ask us some questions. But Ali, Joe,
you know me a little bit. You know I'm going
to do this to you, So let's just spring for it. Okay,
(30:09):
do you think each other are the one? Are you
each other?
Speaker 1 (30:14):
It's them? See it?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
That's Susan for them to answer, I see it. You
can yell at me later.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I yeah, yes, listen.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
I think we have a lot of things to like
figure out, like living wise, like right now, it's like
working right now. But I think living with somebody tells
you a lot about them and changes things.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
But that but that doesn't mean that when I say
are you the one, it means the one that at
this point I see myself spending the rest of my
life with.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Yeah, to me, it's like all in or nothing. I'm
not going to lose my time or someone else's time.
And I'm not dating just to date, like I'm dating
someone to see a potential future with. And We've had
like conversations of things.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
But Ali Joe, it is time to fess up. Do
we say, have you told them about your four year
old child? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
My, is the l word happening?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I don't know. I really I have no idea is
that happening.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:16):
I think we're just kind of like moving at our
own pace. And I think one thing that we both
love a lot is keeping what we have between us.
There's certain things that I don't mind sharing with the world,
and then there's other things where I'm like, this is something.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
For you guys. Just know that we all envaccination. We
are really rooting for you guys because we're both wonderful people.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
We weren't sure, honestly, we weren't sure.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
We're also like this is us, like if you know
people will support it or not, So that we were
really happy to see some really kind comments and just like,
yeah from people is really nice.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Focused on those guys, So it was nice to see.
I said, look, she's already, she's already making me look better.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
So I met. I absolutely love it all right, what
do you have questions for us?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
If any I want to go, you want to go first? Well, yeah,
how's your relationship?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's absolutely perfect. He loved being in the United States.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Okay, because I know you were like in the what
island were you in? I know you were in Saint
Martin St.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Martin. I was going to say Saint Thomas.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah. So when he was leaving, he saw New York,
he saw Jersey, sure, he saw the casinos. He's all
South Jersey. I had him everywhere, and when he was leaving,
he's like, when are we going to see each other?
And I gave him dates. I only have a week
and he was like, Darling, that's not long enough. I
come back. So he's coming back.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Doing like the long distance thing too.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
You know, it's it's not easy, but I would say
nothing worth having Kevin comes Easy's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
What about me.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
In Canada right now?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
At the moment, I'm CAUs my sister lives in Ottawa
and I've been here. My family came up, my kids,
my grandkids, came up. You want to know about my
dating life?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yes, you hear it, Although you just did a show an.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Amazing I gotta tell you, Uh, you know, I went
when Keith came on the show, when we were on
the show and Keith said, Kathy and I I have
no romantic neither of us. We're just good friends. But
you know, I was like, great, Now my d ms
are gonna flood with you.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Do you remember that, Katy, even that we're getting off
a Golden Bachelor. Oh, your dms are gonna blow.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Up all these honestly, Honestly, Sam, though, the truth is
I would I have a ton of energy. I love
to do adventure, I love to do stuff, and I
would love to find that person that would love to
share uh this stage, this last great chapter of my life.
I would love to find that person. But here's what
(34:10):
one of the main things I've learned about myself is
I am a complete and happy person. Why I am,
and I have great family and great grandkids. And if
it happens, it's great. And if it doesn't happen, then
you know, I can chase after you when Alie Joe's
you know it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Work, That's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
You know, share and share a like do unto others
all those things. Well, I'm a happy person. Friendship, but
anyone have a But since you brought up Sam, you
got a father and uncle, a stepfather.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Grand listen, we do I know a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
So we should do like a dating game. You guys
should come here, we go there, and.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Come on come to oft.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I think US three would have obviously seased you two
if you're in Paris, but US through we're in Paris
the same time, Like that would have been.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Our own show.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Yeah, I was so disappointed you guys weren't there. I
really was, and.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
I'm disappointed, but you weren't there at the same time.
It would have been great.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I know, I know.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
What do you guys think about the show so far?
What do you guys think about the money the money aspect.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
I think it changed the dynamic of everything. I mean,
it was exciting that you could win, but I don't
trust any of the relationships now. It put it, yeah,
a twist, I do.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I think. You know they say not for love, nor
money or money corrupts. I think it can. I think
it's an interesting aspect to the show. It definitely changes
the show, but in some ways, I think it makes
it more interesting and just seeing how some of the
relationships are going to play out. I'm loving watching the show.
(35:53):
I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm such a romantic I'm in love with love and
I've seen couples that like disappointed me when I saw
some things that were happening, like I really believe they
were really in it together, and now I'm looking like
you bastards.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I'll tell you, I always want to know, and I
you know, I will ask almost anything, but I want
to know when. Like when I watched back the show
in my own I'm not surprised. I mean, I know
what I said, I know what I did. But I
wonder when other people watch the show back in those
that are in relationships, what do they think about hearing
(36:35):
things about their guy or girl that they didn't know happened.
That always just just from a yeah, we sociological point
of view.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
We talked about that.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Yeah, because you don't know, and there's anything that you
weren't honest with maybe to her, and it was in
front of a camera and then you're kind of playing.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
You have no idea it could get shown. It cannot.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
So is there any specific couple that you really have
hopes for as of right now? What you see, I would.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Say Spencer and Justin don't really just like the most
genuine for each other and like good energy and for
the right reasons and like not for clouts.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
Yeah, yeah, I like them a lot, I think, I mean,
especially because I took Jess on a date.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Whenever I was.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
There, did look at you like you joke about it?
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Episode and I was like, how was that spongebath?
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Do you like any shower?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
When he takes a shower, I'm like, you want a
sponge bath?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
That's cute.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah. No, I think that they're I think that they're
really good for each other.
Speaker 6 (37:48):
Though I think that I probably put Jess and it
really I don't think it was a difficult decision for
her at all, And I think that just spoke volumes
about her commitment to Spencer at that time, and then
to see them like still kicking it and going strong
right now. Out of everybody, I know, every relationship has
its challenges. I think the weight of those challenges though,
(38:09):
can They're all different, and it seems like maybe their
obstacles and their challenges are a little bit lighter and
maybe a little bit more reasonable than what I'm seeing
from a lot of these other relationships.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
On what did you think? I have to ask you
what did you think about the Goldens? And be nice,
what did you think about the Goldens.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
Being on listen? I think that you guys are the
freaking best. I'm just pissed that I didn't get to
meet you guys. And the whole world loves you guys too.
It's kind of funny. I joke with her about it.
I'm like, yeah, we all went on Gen season, weren't
really like Grant season, you know.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
But and then the Goldens came about and everybody's like
the Golden Yeah, yeah, And I didn't get to see
you guys. You guys came in hot.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
They did great entrance entrance.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I I you know, by I don't you saw it?
But my secret that whole thing, like damn, I was
getting a date because I did not get a date
on our season. I was determined I was scoring to
win a date.
Speaker 4 (39:10):
Yeah that's how I felt too.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
So do you do every other one who travels to
who is that part of a thing.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Or yeah, but it doesn't really bother I was like,
there's been occurrences where like I came here the past
couple of times, but that's okay because like we went
to Atlanta this weekend.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Different.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
It just like has worked out like like that, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Your schedule is flexible enough.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Yeah, it depends.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
I mean, Sam, I gotta ask one more question you
you are you not afraid that she could haul off
and give you a left jab and a right hook.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Listen, that's what I That's what I kind of like
though a little bit, I'm like, yeah, I gotta be
all my best behavior for the most part.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
So yeah, he's very like supportive.
Speaker 5 (39:51):
Like I've gone to him a couple of things have
been going on with like personal things, and I've gone
to like ask for questions and just advice, and he's
given me the best advice and just been so supportive.
So that was something that was really important to me
because you know, we're not together, so to pick up
a phone or to have like important conversations on FaceTime,
you know, you don't.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Want it to be here.
Speaker 5 (40:10):
And I think it's just it's not like it was
a test, but I think it's a good test to see,
you know, when things do go sideways or south in
life because how it happens, like how he'll show up there,
how he'll show up for me.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
So let me say, we don't know whether you guys
what your fuguals, but Susan, would you not agree he
the words you guys are using. You show up for
each other, You listen, you communicate well, you spend time
making time for each other, all your families get along.
All these things are ingredients that make a good relationship.
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And so, whether you know, our hope is that it
just continues to grow.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
For you listen to friends, they paid attention. The friendship
has to be strong, yes, right, and we see it.
We see it. We love this.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
When you care that much, it's it's easy.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
It's easy to listen when the person front of you.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
You, oh, she's gonna cry, Okay, come over it.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
We love this. I hate to say this, but I
think that does it. For today's episode A Bachelor Happy Hours,
Golden Hour, I want to thank you both for opening
up to us and being here with us today. It
means the world to us, right, Katy, really?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Thanks you guys. Your advice was great. We love seeing
you guys so happy. Thank you all so much for
joining us, and be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour
because we do have new episodes coming out every week
that you don't want to miss. Today you heard all
about Sam and Ali Joe, Well, you don't know who's
around the corner.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
And make sure you keep submitting the questions to us.
You know what to do to go to bachelornation dot
com slash Golden Hour, or you can dm us on
Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour or on the
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next time, have a great week.
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