May 9, 2025 • 45 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re chatting with Alexe from Grant’s season of “The Bachelor.” This ray of sunshine is here to tell us all about herself, dish out some advice, and find her long-lost sister Kathy; these two are seriously twin souls! Alexe tells us all about her experience on the show, including her friends and setting the record straight on her journey. Then, she shares dating updates and her hopes to be on the beach this summer. If Alexe were to get the call, who does she have her eye on? And, of course, she helps us dish out some advice to you guys! After an initial connection, how does Alexe determine if a guy is right for her? Can you ever get past an ick when you’re dating your first sweetheart after a string of bad boys? Tune in now to find out all this and more and be sure to subscribe!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us where it's so excited to be back today.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How are you doing today, Susan.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I am in happy world.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Susan's totally unhappy world now that she's in love. That's
all she says. I'm in happy world.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's all good and we've been having so much fun
answering your questions and chatting with our Bachelor Nation fans.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, so today we have a very special guest, another
absolutely gorgeous woman from Grant season.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Alex. Welcome to Golden Hour.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Bonjous, Hello, work, Hi, thank you so much for having me.
How's everyone doing.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We're right, Susan. Alex is from Canada and speaks fluent French,
so you might want to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's a different French, I believe.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Oh do you speak French from France?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh yet, but I'm studying. I am trying. He is
from France and I hear that Canadian French, and yes,
so we did.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It's funny. I did a little TikTok the other day
with my my my Quebec French, my Quebec friend and
then me, because it's totally two different accents. I'm from
New Brunswick, and then he's from Quebec. And then I'm
getting so many responses from people from France being like,
what kind of accent is that we can't understand a thing?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But do you understand French?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Alex absolutely, I'm like, I understand you guys understand us,
But yes I can. But it's not everybody who can.
I think. I'm just like very I've always been interested
in accents, so I feel like, yeah, me too, and
you too, Yeah, and I can do. Then that's the
(01:52):
one that you know.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Of course, of course it is.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Wait, I have a question, so you My sister lives
in Ottawa, Canada. I have good friends who lived in
New Brunswick. My sister is a Canadian citizen.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Okay, wait, okay, we're wait wait wait wait. So first
of all, I went to school in Ottawa.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Where'd you go?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I went to University of Ottawa. I did my master's there.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh my gosh, okay, there you go.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
That's crazy. Okay, And how do you know people from
New Brunswick and where?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, they moved, they left New Brunswick. They're back in
Toronto now. My sister lived in Toronto. This interviews about
you said, We're going to go through this really quickly.
My sister lived in Toronto for twenty something years, married
to Canadian, offloaded the Canadian but stayed in Canada, became
a Canadian citizen, and her children one lives in Ottawa.
She spent twenty years in Toronto. The friends in New
(02:41):
Brunswick were old friends of my husband and mine from
the navy, and he married a woman from Toronto, and
then business wise they moved into Brunswick and now they're
back in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And now do you remember where? I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'll get back to you on that. I have their
address somewhere, but it's a small place.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And I just filmed the show, well actually just aired,
and I was like fifty minutes north of Toronto and
this mansion, yes.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Wow, it's Canada.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I always most beautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It is Quebec City, Montreal.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And by the way, can I just say, speaking of
aac sense and I am I am a I love
the whole study of language. Americans usually say Quebec and
people from Canada say cumeback Quebec, because I know good
Americans will.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Say back, Quebec, you're right, but it is. Yeah, it's kid,
it's cume back.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay. So, and you grew up on a farm with like,
I want to see.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
The record straight, Like I wasn't the one like milking cat.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, you don't look like somebody who'd be milking a cat.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Oh no, that's why I moved to Los Angeles. But definitely,
my my mother had we had a calf, we had chickens,
we had goats, we had bunnies, and you know, all
of that was too obviously eventually, you know, use the meat.
And then she did the error of the mistake of
naming the calf, and she got attached to it and she.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Kind, we could need it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You O'Neill. O'Neill was the name.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So when did you move to La So?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I moved two and a half years ago because I
am crazy and I it was a Friday night on
a whim, I said, you know what, I want to
move to California. I mean, I had planned to do it,
but I was like going to do it in a
couple months, and I was like, you know what, let's
just do it now. So I sold all of my
stuff within the weekend on Facebook Marketplace and I packed
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my two thousand and seven, Hondai accent with a cat
in a litter box and I rode from Ottawa, Canada
to Los Angeles by yourself. Well, I was going to
do it by myself because I've always been very, very stubborn.
And my friends were like, Alex, don't do that by yourself.
You're gonna and I was like, I can do it.
And then four so that because it was a Friday
and I left Tuesday, like maybe Sunday night, I started it.
(04:55):
Then I was like, Okay, this is not a good idea.
Let me just tell a friend just to see if
she would do it me. And she was like, yeah,
let's do it. I've always wanted to do a road
trip with.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You, like you know that I've driven twice by myself
from Texas to Toronto twice.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well, then that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well I was going to say, and you and I
are similar, we're both of the you know.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They muted us. I was like, no, we're going to
have yeah sign language.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We always keep talking.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So wait, you are a pediatric speech therapist, which I
get it little. You know kids who go away they
can't pronounce their letters.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, or instead of uh, yeah, instead of red, it's wed.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, right, so I can you give me like a oh,
let's call it fifteen second primer.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
How you get a kid who says wed to say red?
How do you do it?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Okay? So the R sound is the most difficult sound
to work on in speech therapy. It's really difficult because
it's just the way the tongue has to be. But
there's a bunch of tricks that you can do. It
depends on the age, it depends on their cognitive level obviously,
but little tricks that I like to do is, for example,
you will I'll pretend that they have like a line
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of peanut butter on their palates, and I start with
the L sound, and I say, lift the people the
peanut butter off. So it starts like this, so the
R sound, or sometimes what I'll do is I'll say
go eat and to slide your tongue back. So e.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Wow, And the French never pronounced the rs. What'd you say?
The French never pronounced there are.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You know what? Sometimes I say to parents, I mean,
if you don't hear that your kids sounds like they're
from London because it's a oh the ladder.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Mother, or Wait a minute, Wait a second. If you're
from Boston, it's packed the ca go to patties. There
was no such thing as an R in Boston. They
just eradicated it from the alphabet.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It was a sad day.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
There need a Spanish person and that's too funny.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
But it's like, you know, it's cute until like it's
of course it's developmentally appropriate up until they're like six
years old, and then it's cute until it's not right, right.
I always say, you know it's yeah, it's because it's cute.
What I was I going to say, because it impacts
the meeting. So for example, like instead of like sleeping,
if they say sweeping, well then you're going to be like,
(07:22):
what are you trying to say?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
There are too so.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Do you still do that? Now?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
That's what I'm doing. Yes, I just got off work and.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, Alex, we have so much we want to dive
into today and we want to get to know you.
So we're going to get things started.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, okay, we first got to know Paradise.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yes, if you're.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Asked, you want to go? And who do you want
to see there?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Mm hmm okay, yes, I would love to go on Paradise.
I think this is very much so my wheelhouse. I'm
a very light, fun, you know, easygoing person and I
feel like that's what paradise is. So absolutely, if I
were asked, I would love, love, love to go and
I'd love to travel. Also, yeah, and who would I
like to see? I mean, oh, that's a good question.
(08:13):
Like I said, I this is what I've been saying,
is people have been saying like, oh, you know and Jonathan,
because you have the same personality, so we'll see, you know,
it might just turn out as friends. Just that Jonathan
Jaggedy John.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yes that guy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I haven't really you know, talked to him, but that's
what I'm we're seeing online, I guess, So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Would you are you? Do you feel like you're ready
to get married?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
So I always say this, So I am twenty eight
years old. I see all my friends back in Canada
that are married with kids. For a long time, I
was like, ah, that could never be me. Like I
want to travel, I want to have fun, and lately
I've been still going on trips with my friends. But
I'm like, oh, I want it'd be fun to like
you know, be here and like watch a sunset and
like give a kiss to whoever I'm with. Right, so
(08:58):
I'm definitely ready to go.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I thought you were going. I thought you were going.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Wouldn't it be fun to have a little baby on
this trip? And I'm like, have you ever traveled on
an airplane with an infante?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Eventually I wanted my kids. I want to, you know,
expose my kids to the world for sure and travel
with them, but not yet. But no, I've just been
kind of longing for, you know, a nice quiet Friday
night where you watch that's in the city and you
make pasta.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I love this.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Okay, So do you know what qualities you look for
in a partner?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
So this is an interesting question. So you would have
asked me before the Bachelor changed, right, I would have
said I wanted someone who could balance me out because
I'm very outgoing. I'm very like head in the clouds, like.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Have you met Kathy?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
And I know exactly I'm the same exact way. And
I used to say, like, oh, I want someone who
like balances me out. And I dated that and it
kind of felt like they were maybe taking some of
my like light a little bit, and then after The
Bachelor I realized, like, you know, me and Grant were
complete off it and it's still you know, I still
started catching feelings for him, and I was like, oh,
(10:03):
I could see that. So I think now if you
ask me, I'm like, I could. I think someone who's
like similar to me could be fun because at the
end of the day, I want to be eighty years
old on a rocking chair and just having the time
of my life with the person i'm with, right, so,
and I tend, you know, to gravitate towards people that
are like me, and I feel like I'm fun, so
I want to be with someone like so I think
(10:24):
maybe someone similar to me. So we'll see. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well it's actually a very interesting answer, and I can
see it going both ways. The thing is, but you
have two yeah, well you have two outgoing personalities. You
really have to it's like it's my turn, No, it's
my turn.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I mean, like my relationship, I was like fighting because
I was like, you know, I love to be the center,
not the center. I'm super self aware. But he also
liked to be super so I was like no, no, me, me,
stop talking me.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
So that's like Frederic, he's just like me, outgoing funny
and I know that pause and he knows when the
pause or you're enjoined there you joined? Yeah, so you
know it flows, Yes, it flows exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Okay, So I have a question, what do you think?
I mean, I don't know yet.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm hoping to get to go to Paradise, but Susan's
definitely not going because she's in love, you know, lucky Susan.
But what do you think about the Goldens? Like that's
nothing that's ever been done. So what do you think
about the Goldens being in Paradise?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, I mean, I think, honestly it's like a great
like insight or not insight. But you know, have to
have you you know, I say, I'm saying you but
Golden people to be there to ask because you guys
have obviously more years you know, than us with love
and experience, and I think to have you guys there
to ask questions and like get your insight and your input, Like.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Are you concerned at all about us some one of
the Goldens, like in one of the younger people, is
that a concern that that crossed your mind male or
female the internet?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Does I mean I have to tell I do have
my mind on Jiggity John.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
You just have to tell team I still love them
even though I'm not coming. We would definitely given each well, Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I don't think I truly don't think that's an issue.
I think some of the golden Men might like to
hook up with some of the young women. And but
you know I'm going to be there with a bat
and a sword saying get back to your side of
the table.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
No, I know, I'm not worried at all. I feel
like you guys would come in, you know, and step
in when it's appropriate to be.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Like, yeah, exactly, you know, inappropriate. Do you understand that
you're looking at that girl? She could be your daughter?
How do you feel that that was really worried?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Is that I was like, okay, when my butt cheeks
are out on the on the chair, is like I'd
be like, good morning Alex for their morning, for their
morning coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I want to know about Thailand.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
How was it?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
It was beautiful? So I am extremely lucky. People like
so my best friend he works for Air Canada, so
we go on buddy passes. It's how have been traveling
so much and just very with your fol because I
know not everyone has the opportunity and I wouldn't be
able to travel as much if it wasn't for that,
So thank you for bringing me everywhere around the world.
(13:10):
It was beautiful. It's you know, I've traveled quite a lot.
It's my favorite country, hands down.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Really, Yes, What is it about Thailand that you love?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I think the culture shock. I mean, I say my
favorite country, it's you go to Europe and it's also
so beautiful, But I think the culture shock and the
people were so nice. The food was delicious that I've
never seen co Peepee Island. I've never seen. It felt
like a the intro of Mohana, the movie like.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Where I Will tell you it's high. You know you
have a bucket list. I read that you have a
bucket list of places you want to travel. Thailand is
very high on my bucket list.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Oh it is you? Have you guys been able to
travel as well?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We've traveled where Asia?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Where else? I want to go?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Where else do I want to go? I want to
do South Africa. My friend was there. We kind of
were supposed do South Africa. We pivoted to Thailand, so
I want to do that. And I would love to
go to Zanzibar really like a safari, but like an
ethical safari. And I want to do South. I've never
done Latin America, so I want to do South South
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so like maybe like Brazil, Peru.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I've been to Peru, I've hiked, I've hiped, I did.
I did the whole thing, the camping, the whole bit.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
How oh you can't, Oh yeah, you can go to Portugal.
I'm taking the train up. We did the three day
my husband, my daughter, her boyfriend. Yeah, we did the
whole thing.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Was er.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm a great I'm a huge hiker. I love it.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I see what happened? Did you say you are You're.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Not Susan's.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Surgery, So you don't like to hike?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
That is where Yes, no, Alex is not a hiker.
I'll do it. I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But then it's no, if you're not hiking, what do
you do for your fun?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
You lazy? No? So I played beach volleyball. That is
how I keep active. A big beach volleyball girl. That's
the only way. I've always said I need to move
to New York because I'm not an outdoorsy person. And
I know that's not a good thing to say because
I feel like it's not an attractive trait. But I'm
an outdoor person at all. Like really, that's why I
(15:20):
think New York. I love the energy of New York.
The only thing that gets me outside is playing beach
volleyball and feeling good about you like who This is fun,
doesn't feel like a workout, and it's social. You know,
you talk to people.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Do you play with the full team or just like too? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah we play sometimes it's too Sometimes it's like
a team. I was in a in a league back
in January, so we go every Sunday. We play. It's
like competitive. I'm a very competitive person.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So on a scale one to five? How competitive are you?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Have you seen?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Granted? Have you seen?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I just I want to hear from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I got concussed, so just that, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I need to know. Do you cook?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
So?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Okay, you're very similar to Kathy my You know.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
One of my fun sacks when the thing came out
was that I'm obsessed with cooking shows.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Obsessed. Can I no?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I love.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
No? No?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I cooked for Kathy.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, no, I mean, why cook when you can do
anything else?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Think you know what Kathy is like, it takes an
hour and you finish it in what five minutes?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And then you want to.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
However, however, I am a Crackerjack dishwasher, like I will
do the dishes.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
If someone cooks, oh.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Like you'll do yes, It's well, that's courtesy coming Curtesy.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
If you're going to cook, absolutely, Okay, I'm going to
change it up just a little bit. In one word,
describe your experience on The Bachelor work give me one.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Mmm roller coaster. I know it's not an adjective, it's
a noun, but like.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think that's actually fair. There are a lot of
ups and downs on these.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Because I started so bubbly. It's like my real personality.
And for some reason, as the weeks went by, I
was like depleted and depleted all your energy it does,
and I could, I like didn't recognize myself. I was like,
this is not me. Like every morning I was like, okay,
go like go in with like you know, being Alex.
And I was like, and people are like Alex.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Who took my happy? So is there anything that you
learned about yourself that you'll carry over if you're asked
to go on Paradise.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I think what I did? You know this is okay.
Before I left, I got one text from a friend
and it sounds corny to say, but she said, be
yourself and everyone will love you. And that's what I
did from night one. I didn't like hide any parts
of myself. I said things like impulse and there's a
lot of things that weren't shown that I was like,
look coming out of my mouth and the girls were like,
(18:14):
oh my gosh, and it shined through the screen and
you know, people saw that. You know, it was just this.
You don't have to you know, if you're yourself the
whole season and you go out, you don't have to
like be someone You're like, it's exhausting after a while.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Ye like, so did you change do you?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Did you come off the show different? Like, you know,
I want to hear where your friends were on the show.
Do you still see them? But how do you feel now?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Well? One thing that if I don't know if I
understood the question right, so I'll answer. If it's not,
please redirect me. One thing that my friends did say
or a lot of people were like, it's it's it
was so fun to watch because it felt like we
were just watching Alex on TV right, like you recognized, Yes,
but and that really felt like like that. I really
agreed hearing that. And yes, I kept a lot of
my you know, friends, really close to Nalie. I'm really
(19:00):
close to Chloe and Letia. Yeah, so I kept really
really close friends that it's like an experience, and you
guys would know, it's like an experience that you will
never share with anybody else in the world. I'm a
little bit like if I do go in perison, like
there's too many fishing to see. If you're interested in him,
please go for him, Like I'm not. I don't want
to put a friend a girl friendship.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So tell us after you come off the show. Now,
has your dm it blowing up? Have you gone on
any dates?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Mm hmm. I have been on kind of like one
date one person that like, I was like, oh wait,
this could be fun, and he's actually someone who's like
so similar. It's someone who watched the show who then
set me up with their friend and he reached out
and he's so similar to me. It's like literally looking
in the mirror and yeah, we've gone in a couple
(19:48):
of dates. It was fun good.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I want to know what made you go on? Did
you submit yourself? How did you end up going on
the Bachelor?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
So it was last summer. I'm drive with my friend
and I get a message on Instagram like, hey, you
would be great for the Bachelor. I'm usually it's all scams, right,
so that are all asking for like feet pick for
like twenty dollars, And I'm like, oh, what's the same.
So I woke it up and I'm like, oh, I
think it's legit. Let me just okay, let's see if
you know. So we have the first interview. Someone reached out.
(20:17):
And I am a big believer that not everything happens
for a reason, but the universe working in your favor
right when you manifest and everything. And my life I
had just you know, ended a relationship that had been
you know, on and off for like five years, and
it was just like the perfect timing. It was almost
like the universe being like, okay, you need this to
(20:38):
move on from this back and forth. Yeah, and that
it just happened at the perfect time. If it would
have been a year before, I was just not ready
I was not there. I you know, it was just
not my best self, I guess, and it happened at
me perfect time.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Wowesome, it's such. It's you know, things do happen, Susan
always pleased. Everything happens for a reason I perceived it,
or a season. I think sometimes things do, but sometimes
it's just, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It's a reason. You learn something from every experience.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Every experience that you go through. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay, So I heard Susan, I have been Both of
you get asked because I'll be out of here podcasting, going,
I wonder what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well, I can tell you what I'll be doing. I'll
be ironing the clothes for the young ones. I want
to know, are there are other updates in your life?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
What you know? Is there anything we need to know?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I boring?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
She's waiting for the call for paradise.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I go to paradise. If I'm going to to a
beautiful exotic country.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
How hard is to pack? You have all the clothes.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I do have all the clothes. Y'all will forget probably
half of my underwear. That's I'm always like, and I
will bring something so irrelevant that I don't need there.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
What about the guy that you dated a couple of times.
Do you have any feelings about if you're asked, would
you tell him or would you just you know?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
And he's so supportive, He's like, I want you to
have fun to you know, you're young, Like I would
never want you to good something for me because we
just met.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Right, Let's just be honest here and you and I
are both leaving with a ring and a date.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
She asked me today, I got to check.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Gold.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That's white gold on your ring, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No? This this ring is yellow gold, yellow gold. But
I can go white gold, I can go platinum. You
know what.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Just find me the guy. I actually don't care about
the ring. I just want the nice guy.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And that is the truth true.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I want the ring, to want the ring.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I had a ring. I had a great ring. I
had a great husband. I had a great ring.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Now I am here's what do you have any questions
for Kathy and I?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yes, okay, what would be your advice you know, going
into as you know, I'm sure you've dated a lot,
and what would be like your advice to a twenty
eight year old and who hasn't you know found.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
The same that's already covered, covered for yourself. For yourself,
a red flag is a red flag if you see
something you're not going to change. Yeah, so just.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You know you can get them to put his socks
in the hamper, you give them to wear polo shirt
and said, I have.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Those red flags, Kathy, So those are those are my Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Don't you know, just you know, you'll it'll be a feeling.
You'll know.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I always say my advice to I gave to all
my kids, and I'll give to you. Do the things
you love, be who you are, and the right people
will come into your life.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I love.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That's all right, and I'm living proof.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Okay, speaking of advice, we are going to go into
the advice portion of our episode and we're going to
kick things off Alex with the question of the day,
and we.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Want your thoughts on it. So here it is, how
do you determine if a guy you've started seeing could
be right for you? What things do you look for
once you've established a mutual connection.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I'm going to speak in with my experience for me,
I you have to check in with yourself what your
non negotiables are, first of all, because if it's going
to be someone long term. You want to make sure
that you're seeing eye to eye. And people have made
relationships work where you have different values, different political views.
I've tried it. It wasn't for me, but usually you
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want to be aligned with those And I think you know,
love is not always going to be feeling. It's it's
a choice. It's the person that you you choose to
you know, have your life. So I think that will
laugh Like for me, that's what it is like if
you make me laugh and you're a good person and you,
you know, inspire me to do better things that are
aligned with my values, like I don't you know that's
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to me, it's the.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
As a winner and how he makes you feel what
I feel when you're.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
With him, uplifted when.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You're with him, or but okay, those are all the
love romantic things, but you know, and you look for
all those things, but you also have to think about
at your age, you're building a career, you know the guys,
your partner's building a career, where you're going to live.
How are you going to balance careers? How are you
going to balance how what do I mean? Those things
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you have to consider as well.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Absolutely absolutely, and I think that's it's important to like
establish that right away. And if, like you said, if
your careers are going to match. If again, for me,
if I want to look for someone who's spontaneous, I
love my career, but if someone who's too career driven.
Not saying I don't want someone who's on the couch,
but I mean I want someone who still has that spontaneity.
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And I feel like you need you need to find
a balance.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Balance.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
You're going to circle back to what we said at
the beginning. Is for me, I can't be with someone
who's exactly exactly like me because I said to Grant
and you said, I'll always remember this first, and I go,
if I was with someone like me, I would be
in Morocco with five dollars in my pocket on a
campra r will like be like you, but also will
be able to balance you out. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And what about what they want in the future, Whether
you want a family and children.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yes, that's what I mean by like the you need
to know.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
You you have to decide are you going to live
in the same city?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Are you you know? Those are things at your age,
in your generation. So many mar So Susan in our generation, truly,
you guys have huge careers. Yeah, some of you work
you know, long distance, remotely, whatever, but those are real
concerns and raising family.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Who's going to be home.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I mean, all those other characteristics are important, but you
really have to think about that.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
You do not immediately, like you got to get a
connection going first, and like you said, you have to
have the gift of laughter. That's right, that's right, but
a serious side as well.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Because even for like with my on my my past relationship,
I think that's where we went at like a roadblock
where we talked about, you know, our values and our beliefs,
and you said, when we want to raise kids, that's
going to be an issue, right, And it's not that
we didn't love each other, it's just that because we
had so much fun together, but it was just we
got ahead and we said, if we have kids, I
want to raise them this way, and you said, well,
I want to raise them that way. And unless you're
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able to find like a compromise and I talked about
it on The Bachelor. Lot to Grant is like for me,
it's a lot about compromising because if you're willing to
compromise and you can come to a middle ground. But
if you're not absolutely and you're going to have issues,
you know, your whole relationship and your.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I you know what I I think that is so again, Susan,
I talked about how so many of the women from
Grant season, including you, that beautiful. But you guys are smart,
You're wise beyond your years, and you you know, you
have figured it out. That compromising that's the only way
you make it through a relationship communication.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, compromise.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It can't be excited, right because I think a lot
of it unless you Again, it's it also comes down
to to your non negotiables though, right, Like there's non negotiables.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What is your biggest non negotiable?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I think for a long time it was religion, and
now I'm a little bit more open to it. Me.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I mean, we don't have to talk religion, but you
mean it had to be your same religion that the
guy had to be your sad religion or.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Whatever. My beliefs were in that, yeah, like I don't
believe or I believe, And I was like, you know,
I you know, I was raised Catholic and my grandmother
made me go to church every Sunday, and I just
don't have a different relationship with my right now. But
I starting, you know this, it's crazy, you know, as
we'll talk about it. But this weekend I joke with
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my friend, I'm like, I have a new I think,
how would I say this in English? I'm trying to
find the words. I think. You know, it kind of
pushed me away, I think from when it because it
was forced when I was growing up, And the last
couple of weeks through months have been just so I've
been just so grateful that I'm like, wow, I feel
like someone's working in my favor.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
But you know what, like at the stage of the game,
as long as they have a belief and you have
to respect theirs. Same with politics. I mean there's a
lot of people today that will break up friendships over it.
But you have to be able to give your partner
the respect that he deserves and he in turn gives
you something that you don't discuss. Then it's it still
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can work even though you have opposite thoughts about absolutely.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I know, and that's the thing with my past relationship.
We had different political views and religion, so I think
it was just a lot like I think I can
do one, but when it comes to like so many
different things everything yet and it's something I have to
work on, is that I'm an instigator. Like if I
don't like I can't understand your way of thinking, I
can't like I'm someone who can see both sides. But
sometimes I'm just like.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I think you and I are twins out I think.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
So I'm watching this, okay, I am watching this. How
are you?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
How are like? How do you are you an insigat
or two? A little?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh yeah, yes, I'm like, I can't shut it.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'm like, don't say it, don't say well, why did
you do that?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I'm like, I understand what you're saying, but really, what
were you saying? FORDA, Yeah, let's talk. I think we're
sisters from another mother.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I'm oh my god, it's so blessed.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Okay, so now we've got we're moving on here because
we have questions advice time.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Probably a fan who needs some advice you want to help,
says and go on to go ahead and read it.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
This is from Carly. Hi, ladies, I'm really hoping you
can help. I've been dating this guy for about two
months and I really like him, He's a much kinder
and healthier partner than any of my exes or flings.
The problem is he kind of gets me the ick.
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I don't know if it's because I'm genuinely not interested
in him or I'm just not used to sweeties. He
says things like I can't believe a girl like you
would go for a guy like me. He doesn't say
it in a way that's like sad lol or phishing
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for compliments, So it's not that he's super insecure. I
just feel blat when he gets overly mushy. Is there
a way that I can talk to him about this
without hurting his feelings? Or am I just like not
into him? Thanks? Ladies. I developed two opinions while reading.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, well, what says you? Alex? Go first?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
I go first? Oh yeah, okay, So first of all,
I empathize with her because I understand where she's coming from,
because I think from a biological standpoint, we want the alpha, right,
we want someone to like feel like they're the prize.
And I think if he's leading with I can't believe
you would go with someone like me? Well, we think
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as I think as me Anyways, I would think, oh no, secure,
and you're insecure, right, I don't want to goure, So
your feelings are totally valid. I think a lot of
women would feel the same way. But it doesn't mean
that it's not something that he can work on. And
if you can, just I think be like that. I mean,
maybe I'm too blunt, but I mean, if you like
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him and he likes you, just be honest. I would
just say, like, hey, you know what you're great and
you should know that, and you know you don't have
to tell me that. There. I would just tell him, like,
just be more confident, don't tell me that you know
that's me. I'm a little blunt with guys, so I'm like,
that make me awkward, I would say, makes me awkward.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And then if if a guy gives you the ick,
I'm stuck on he gives me the I'm out if
he gives me the air.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Because listen, and it's fun that we're talking about this
because I did another pod where my words got twisted
when I never said that Grant gave me the eck,
but I said that the piano gave me the it.
Because for me, I am not a musical person. When
someone serenades me on the firth. It makes me a
little awkward. I'm like, you know, And people ran with
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that and they were like, well, Alex is saying that
Grant gave him the it. No, no, no, and it
is not a deal breaker, right, and you can get
over an eck, you can. And it's I used to
get the egg from my ex all the time, and
you have white want to.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
She said, So you're saying it's it's an aspect of
him that gave gives you the ap not like I read.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
It, he gives me the eck, oh the whole that's
what I to. But you're right, maybe it's just that aspect.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I think it's just that aspect when he says and
he says all that mushy stuff of like, oh, I
can't believe you're with me. I think it's a psychological
thing for her of like oh, like is he not
a catch? Like and I think that's what's giving her like, oh,
I'm not into him.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Like I couldn't agree with you or my take on
this though. If you're my age, you want that guy.
You want that guy that thinks you're all that plus
sum instead of the bad boy that we're all attracted
to most of our lives. You want the man that says, wow.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Wait, excuse me, Alex. Have you always been attracted to
bad boys?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
It's something I'm on learning now.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Granted, Alex, I was married at twenty. I met my
husband when I was Jeff, Sorry, no, I was, Oh,
I do not like bad boys. I don't go after him.
I don't go after him. I don't trust him. I
want a good, solid, kind man. And that's what I
had for my marriage. Well at twenty. I mean, I
knew I just and Susan We've talked about that. Susan
was as attracted to the bad guys. And I'm like,
(34:45):
how long does it take you to learn that a
bad guy who's messing around you know?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That doesn't that bad guy doesn't mean he's cheating, like
just a popular guy, a guy that is very.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Sure that's not a bad guy.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
No, but there's something about them.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
There's something about or getting the guy. I think that
is so sought out for me anyways, sought after and
he chooses you out of what I liked. I was like, oh,
he chose me. You feel special, right, But I think
you can get over the I I think if communication,
if she communicates with him, and I know she said
without hurting his feeling.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I think she's more worldly than he is. He's a
little bit it's they say, not insecure, but he is.
He never thought he could get a girl like that.
But you don't voice it, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It makes it makes a girl think, oh, maybe he's
not all that. Maybe what am I doing with him?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yes, instead say say something.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Because you address that without hurting his feelings. That's the
thing that I'm I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I would love a guy to say musty stuff to me.
So you know this is I got. I got nothing there.
I'm like, I'm like, Carly, send me his name and
number if he's in appropriate.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Sweet enough. Maybe she just felt uncomfortable well because he
was saying that.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
All right, Well, Carly, you got to let us know.
We want to know.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yes, inquiring minds want to know if you stuck with him.
But I think I think we're all saying the same thing.
Maybe talk to him kindly and just tell him how
it makes you feel, because that's good communication. And if
you want it to be you know better than what
it is, you have to work at it.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Right.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
You might be the best guy in the world for
him a little bit because he's but I think at
the end of the day, he seems like you're He
really really likes you, So I think you'll just appreciate
that you're communicating with I agree.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We want to know so you've gotten we've got to
know you a little bit better. We want to open
the floor to you. Do you have any questions for us, comments,
concerned anything, anything?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
So fun?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
And I feel so bad because I was not a
reality TV person and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Didn't watch and I didn't watch a lot of.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Oh my gosh, guys, but what, okay, tell me about
your friendship.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
We met on the show.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
We met first night, Yeah, the first time. I don't
actually remember. I just remember the pictures.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I remember we took up That's what we remember.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Somebody somehow we ended up in front of the fireplace
in the mansion and they took a picture and we were.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Talking and we just hit it off.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And then we ended up just coincidentally being uh, in
the sharing a bedroom. And then you know, I would
never I mean, Susan comes from a big Italian family.
I mean, she's a shopper, she's a makeup girl. I'm
just like, I want to go for a high cook
and she's a cook. I'm I loved a needle point.
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I'm but I'm not a shopper. I want someone to
make me look good. I don't want I don't want
to take the Africans.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Funny is the first night they asked me, what's one
thing you don't want to do, and I go, don't
bring me shopping. I hate shopping.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Gosh, I called you got did you call it too?
As soon as you started talking, I'm like the two
when you said about the kitchen, I knew.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, and I don't want. I like to look nice
and I know you like nice.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Because of course, of course that goes without saying exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
So that's that's how we made friends. It was just andial,
it was just and they were in the same room.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Went through the whole show together. I mean we stayed
you know, four and fifth rose ceremony. So we got
to know each other.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Not support when you go through an experience.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
But I will tell you, Susan has taught me like
we're very different people. Anybody can see that we're very
different people. I'm a I'm just we're both very outgoing
and now and now we're diverging because now Susan has
a guy and I don't. I'm gonna keep rubbing your
nose in that, Susan as.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Long as I can.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
But we we have fun together. Susan has helped me shop,
She's helped me updated. Now I'm getting a haircut again,
you know, update my look.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Remember your closet cats. When I came, I came to Austin,
I married, I performed this ceremony for Kathy's son.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, what's that show? You would take someone and they
would like dress them up?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
And then I don't know if that show is still around?
Could they pick me please?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
On TLC. I'm pretty sure, like after the dress, what
not to wear?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
That would be me. I'm in their closet. They gotta go.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
She got rid of clothes. She took me sharp and she's.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Up me and that's fine for me.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yes, I'd rather stab myself. I'd rather stand.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Kathy has taught me grammar when to say I or
me and thinks you know.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
We took each other smith. I'm a girl.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Language linguistics.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Love that linguistics language studied Speakanish, German. I can't speak
any of them, but just enough to introduce people you know,
but I love language.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I love language, so anything else.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Yeah, I guess. I guess. I asked kind of like
in the middle of the episode, what was like one advice,
but we kind of talked about it. But oh, it's
great to see you guys. You know, just that friendship
and it's also motivating for us, like, you know, the
friendships that we're going to make if you know forever.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Did you make some good friendship from your season?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yes, And it's funny. You guys remind me of me
and Chloe where it's like we're super outgoing, but like
we're so different at the same time.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, so this one. Kathy and I asked this a lot.
If you were on a deserted island and you could
only take three people from your season when you're looking
at the two of them right now and why and.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
You're looking at it would be Chloe, Natalie and now
and Letia and.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Well then again Letia, Natalie and Chloe and Chloe. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Nalie's like my my closest, like my rock. She It's funny.
At one point we were saying, if they decide to
show the edit of me and Chloe, they're going to
think or me and Nalie. They're gonna think, oh, what
kind of relationship? Was going close? Either cry in her
arms or I was like braiding her hair. We're like
always touching. And then at the when she got eliminated,
I was bobbing and I was like, she goes, You're
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going to do just fine without And then the next
day when I saw Grant, I go, you know, I
was crying, But it's just because you said my best
friend home.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
You know what, Honesty is always the best policy.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
It is exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I mean I went home one rose before Susan and
I was ready to go. I mean Gary and I
were not a match made in heaven or in the Bronx,
or in Queens or anywhere anywhere else, anywhere anywhere, but
nice guy, nice guy, but not my guy.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
But I missed.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I missed the girls. I couldn't wait until everybody came
home so we could talk.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yes, And is that still have week?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
We still have a large.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Two all friends that you're close with.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
We talked to all of them, but there's a certain
few of us that are every day.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, Susan, Nancy, we're we're kind of are the you know,
the ones that we talked about.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
But we love I mean, I talked to Leslie occasionally.
We talked.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
You know, there's a lot of Fame and Ellen, Sandra,
there's a.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Lot of them, and we have a big do you
have a chat chain, you know.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Like some little sub groups of you know, and I
keep touch with Caresa and Beverly and ye Ali Joe.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, we talked with Ali Jo.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I always this is Jersey Girl.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Every morning, everybody was. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
That's the accent. You know, you could have done that.
You could have helped me with that accent, with your
speech pathology.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
No, I don't want to get rid of her accent.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I love it. Coffee, it's coffee and water. Water. Well,
this has been so much fun.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
I had a blast.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Guy.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I hope you both get called. I really really do.
I cannot wait to hear the stories. I love this
and I really hope that both of you, both of
you find your person in love. Susan, Yes, that's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
This is what we want at the end of this
is that's right.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
That's right, and it's when I least expected. I was
on vacation with Kathy. Actually, oh, that's how they met.
I introduced them in French. He doesn't speak English. He's French,
he does not speak English.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
He doesn't because you knew French.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well I don't, no, no, no, I was just French, Spanish, English.
I just introduced them, you know, I mean everybody can say,
I mean helloiento.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
You know, play anyhow. I hope you find a French, Italian, German, Irish.
I don't care who he is, but may you both
be matched, not together though, it's all good, It's all good.
This is so much fun. I hate to say this part,
but I think that does it for the episode, and
(44:01):
we're gonna have to say goodbye and thank you so
much for joining us, and for everybody out there listening.
This is going to be it for Bachelor Happy Hours,
Golden Hour, and thank you to our lovely guest Alex
for joining us and dishing out some great advice. And
if she does get asked and finds her person, we
will definitely have her back.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
On absolutely and we really did love getting to chat
with you all.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
You ladies are amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
You are another strong, beautiful, intelligent woman, So celebrate that.
Thank you everyone else for joining us, and be sure
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Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks for
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
How are you doing today, Susan.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I am in happy world.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Susan's totally unhappy world now that she's in love. That's
all she says. I'm in happy world.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's all good and we've been having so much fun
answering your questions and chatting with our Bachelor Nation fans.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Okay, so today we have a very special guest, another
absolutely gorgeous woman from Grant season.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Alex. Welcome to Golden Hour.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Bonjous, Hello, work, Hi, thank you so much for having me.
How's everyone doing.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
We're right, Susan. Alex is from Canada and speaks fluent French,
so you might want to talk to me.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
It's a different French, I believe.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Oh do you speak French from France?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Oh yet, but I'm studying. I am trying. He is
from France and I hear that Canadian French, and yes,
so we did.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It's funny. I did a little TikTok the other day
with my my my Quebec French, my Quebec friend and
then me, because it's totally two different accents. I'm from
New Brunswick, and then he's from Quebec. And then I'm
getting so many responses from people from France being like,
what kind of accent is that we can't understand a thing?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But do you understand French?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Alex absolutely, I'm like, I understand you guys understand us,
But yes I can. But it's not everybody who can.
I think. I'm just like very I've always been interested
in accents, so I feel like, yeah, me too, and
you too, Yeah, and I can do. Then that's the
(01:52):
one that you know.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Of course, of course it is.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Wait, I have a question, so you My sister lives
in Ottawa, Canada. I have good friends who lived in
New Brunswick. My sister is a Canadian citizen.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Okay, wait, okay, we're wait wait wait wait. So first
of all, I went to school in Ottawa.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Where'd you go?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I went to University of Ottawa. I did my master's there.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh my gosh, okay, there you go.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
That's crazy. Okay, And how do you know people from
New Brunswick and where?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Well, they moved, they left New Brunswick. They're back in
Toronto now. My sister lived in Toronto. This interviews about
you said, We're going to go through this really quickly.
My sister lived in Toronto for twenty something years, married
to Canadian, offloaded the Canadian but stayed in Canada, became
a Canadian citizen, and her children one lives in Ottawa.
She spent twenty years in Toronto. The friends in New
(02:41):
Brunswick were old friends of my husband and mine from
the navy, and he married a woman from Toronto, and
then business wise they moved into Brunswick and now they're
back in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And now do you remember where? I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I'll get back to you on that. I have their
address somewhere, but it's a small place.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And I just filmed the show, well actually just aired,
and I was like fifty minutes north of Toronto and
this mansion, yes.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Wow, it's Canada.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I always most beautiful.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It is Quebec City, Montreal.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And by the way, can I just say, speaking of
aac sense and I am I am a I love
the whole study of language. Americans usually say Quebec and
people from Canada say cumeback Quebec, because I know good
Americans will.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Say back, Quebec, you're right, but it is. Yeah, it's kid,
it's cume back.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay. So, and you grew up on a farm with like,
I want to see.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
The record straight, Like I wasn't the one like milking cat.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, you don't look like somebody who'd be milking a cat.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Oh no, that's why I moved to Los Angeles. But definitely,
my my mother had we had a calf, we had chickens,
we had goats, we had bunnies, and you know, all
of that was too obviously eventually, you know, use the meat.
And then she did the error of the mistake of
naming the calf, and she got attached to it and she.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Kind, we could need it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
You O'Neill. O'Neill was the name.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So when did you move to La So?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I moved two and a half years ago because I
am crazy and I it was a Friday night on
a whim, I said, you know what, I want to
move to California. I mean, I had planned to do it,
but I was like going to do it in a
couple months, and I was like, you know what, let's
just do it now. So I sold all of my
stuff within the weekend on Facebook Marketplace and I packed
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my two thousand and seven, Hondai accent with a cat
in a litter box and I rode from Ottawa, Canada
to Los Angeles by yourself. Well, I was going to
do it by myself because I've always been very, very stubborn.
And my friends were like, Alex, don't do that by yourself.
You're gonna and I was like, I can do it.
And then four so that because it was a Friday
and I left Tuesday, like maybe Sunday night, I started it.
(04:55):
Then I was like, Okay, this is not a good idea.
Let me just tell a friend just to see if
she would do it me. And she was like, yeah,
let's do it. I've always wanted to do a road
trip with.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You, like you know that I've driven twice by myself
from Texas to Toronto twice.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Well, then that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well I was going to say, and you and I
are similar, we're both of the you know.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They muted us. I was like, no, we're going to
have yeah sign language.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
We always keep talking.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
So wait, you are a pediatric speech therapist, which I
get it little. You know kids who go away they
can't pronounce their letters.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Yeah, or instead of uh, yeah, instead of red, it's wed.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Well, right, so I can you give me like a oh,
let's call it fifteen second primer.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
How you get a kid who says wed to say red?
How do you do it?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Okay? So the R sound is the most difficult sound
to work on in speech therapy. It's really difficult because
it's just the way the tongue has to be. But
there's a bunch of tricks that you can do. It
depends on the age, it depends on their cognitive level obviously,
but little tricks that I like to do is, for example,
you will I'll pretend that they have like a line
(06:06):
of peanut butter on their palates, and I start with
the L sound, and I say, lift the people the
peanut butter off. So it starts like this, so the
R sound, or sometimes what I'll do is I'll say
go eat and to slide your tongue back. So e.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Wow, And the French never pronounced the rs. What'd you say?
The French never pronounced there are.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
You know what? Sometimes I say to parents, I mean,
if you don't hear that your kids sounds like they're
from London because it's a oh the ladder.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Mother, or Wait a minute, Wait a second. If you're
from Boston, it's packed the ca go to patties. There
was no such thing as an R in Boston. They
just eradicated it from the alphabet.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It was a sad day.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
There need a Spanish person and that's too funny.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
But it's like, you know, it's cute until like it's
of course it's developmentally appropriate up until they're like six
years old, and then it's cute until it's not right, right.
I always say, you know it's yeah, it's because it's cute.
What I was I going to say, because it impacts
the meeting. So for example, like instead of like sleeping,
if they say sweeping, well then you're going to be like,
(07:22):
what are you trying to say?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
There are too so.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Do you still do that? Now?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
That's what I'm doing. Yes, I just got off work and.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Well, Alex, we have so much we want to dive
into today and we want to get to know you.
So we're going to get things started.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Okay, okay, we first got to know Paradise.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yes, if you're.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Asked, you want to go? And who do you want
to see there?
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Mm hmm okay, yes, I would love to go on Paradise.
I think this is very much so my wheelhouse. I'm
a very light, fun, you know, easygoing person and I
feel like that's what paradise is. So absolutely, if I
were asked, I would love, love, love to go and
I'd love to travel. Also, yeah, and who would I
like to see? I mean, oh, that's a good question.
(08:13):
Like I said, I this is what I've been saying,
is people have been saying like, oh, you know and Jonathan,
because you have the same personality, so we'll see, you know,
it might just turn out as friends. Just that Jonathan
Jaggedy John.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yes that guy. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I haven't really you know, talked to him, but that's
what I'm we're seeing online, I guess, So we'll see.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Would you are you? Do you feel like you're ready
to get married?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
So I always say this, So I am twenty eight
years old. I see all my friends back in Canada
that are married with kids. For a long time, I
was like, ah, that could never be me. Like I
want to travel, I want to have fun, and lately
I've been still going on trips with my friends. But
I'm like, oh, I want it'd be fun to like
you know, be here and like watch a sunset and
like give a kiss to whoever I'm with. Right, so
(08:58):
I'm definitely ready to go.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I thought you were going. I thought you were going.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Wouldn't it be fun to have a little baby on
this trip? And I'm like, have you ever traveled on
an airplane with an infante?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
No, no, no.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Eventually I wanted my kids. I want to, you know,
expose my kids to the world for sure and travel
with them, but not yet. But no, I've just been
kind of longing for, you know, a nice quiet Friday
night where you watch that's in the city and you
make pasta.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I love this.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I love this.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Okay, So do you know what qualities you look for
in a partner?
Speaker 4 (09:29):
So this is an interesting question. So you would have
asked me before the Bachelor changed, right, I would have
said I wanted someone who could balance me out because
I'm very outgoing. I'm very like head in the clouds, like.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Have you met Kathy?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
And I know exactly I'm the same exact way. And
I used to say, like, oh, I want someone who
like balances me out. And I dated that and it
kind of felt like they were maybe taking some of
my like light a little bit, and then after The
Bachelor I realized, like, you know, me and Grant were
complete off it and it's still you know, I still
started catching feelings for him, and I was like, oh,
(10:03):
I could see that. So I think now if you
ask me, I'm like, I could. I think someone who's
like similar to me could be fun because at the
end of the day, I want to be eighty years
old on a rocking chair and just having the time
of my life with the person i'm with, right, so,
and I tend, you know, to gravitate towards people that
are like me, and I feel like I'm fun, so
I want to be with someone like so I think
(10:24):
maybe someone similar to me. So we'll see. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well it's actually a very interesting answer, and I can
see it going both ways. The thing is, but you
have two yeah, well you have two outgoing personalities. You
really have to it's like it's my turn, No, it's
my turn.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
I mean, like my relationship, I was like fighting because
I was like, you know, I love to be the center,
not the center. I'm super self aware. But he also
liked to be super so I was like no, no, me, me,
stop talking me.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
So that's like Frederic, he's just like me, outgoing funny
and I know that pause and he knows when the
pause or you're enjoined there you joined? Yeah, so you
know it flows, Yes, it flows exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Okay, So I have a question, what do you think?
I mean, I don't know yet.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm hoping to get to go to Paradise, but Susan's
definitely not going because she's in love, you know, lucky Susan.
But what do you think about the Goldens? Like that's
nothing that's ever been done. So what do you think
about the Goldens being in Paradise?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Well, I mean, I think, honestly it's like a great
like insight or not insight. But you know, have to
have you you know, I say, I'm saying you but
Golden people to be there to ask because you guys
have obviously more years you know, than us with love
and experience, and I think to have you guys there
to ask questions and like get your insight and your input, Like.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Are you concerned at all about us some one of
the Goldens, like in one of the younger people, is
that a concern that that crossed your mind male or
female the internet?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Does I mean I have to tell I do have
my mind on Jiggity John.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
You just have to tell team I still love them
even though I'm not coming. We would definitely given each well, Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
I don't think I truly don't think that's an issue.
I think some of the golden Men might like to
hook up with some of the young women. And but
you know I'm going to be there with a bat
and a sword saying get back to your side of
the table.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
No, I know, I'm not worried at all. I feel
like you guys would come in, you know, and step
in when it's appropriate to be.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Like, yeah, exactly, you know, inappropriate. Do you understand that
you're looking at that girl? She could be your daughter?
How do you feel that that was really worried?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Is that I was like, okay, when my butt cheeks
are out on the on the chair, is like I'd
be like, good morning Alex for their morning, for their
morning coffee.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I want to know about Thailand.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
How was it?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
It was beautiful? So I am extremely lucky. People like
so my best friend he works for Air Canada, so
we go on buddy passes. It's how have been traveling
so much and just very with your fol because I
know not everyone has the opportunity and I wouldn't be
able to travel as much if it wasn't for that,
So thank you for bringing me everywhere around the world.
(13:10):
It was beautiful. It's you know, I've traveled quite a lot.
It's my favorite country, hands down.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Really, Yes, What is it about Thailand that you love?
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I think the culture shock. I mean, I say my
favorite country, it's you go to Europe and it's also
so beautiful, But I think the culture shock and the
people were so nice. The food was delicious that I've
never seen co Peepee Island. I've never seen. It felt
like a the intro of Mohana, the movie like.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Where I Will tell you it's high. You know you
have a bucket list. I read that you have a
bucket list of places you want to travel. Thailand is
very high on my bucket list.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Oh it is you? Have you guys been able to
travel as well?
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We've traveled where Asia?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Where else? I want to go?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Where else do I want to go? I want to
do South Africa. My friend was there. We kind of
were supposed do South Africa. We pivoted to Thailand, so
I want to do that. And I would love to
go to Zanzibar really like a safari, but like an
ethical safari. And I want to do South. I've never
done Latin America, so I want to do South South
(14:17):
so like maybe like Brazil, Peru.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
I've been to Peru, I've hiked, I've hiped, I did.
I did the whole thing, the camping, the whole bit.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
How oh you can't, Oh yeah, you can go to Portugal.
I'm taking the train up. We did the three day
my husband, my daughter, her boyfriend. Yeah, we did the
whole thing.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Was er.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
I'm a great I'm a huge hiker. I love it.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I see what happened? Did you say you are You're.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Not Susan's.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Surgery, So you don't like to hike?
Speaker 4 (14:52):
That is where Yes, no, Alex is not a hiker.
I'll do it. I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
But then it's no, if you're not hiking, what do
you do for your fun?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
You lazy? No? So I played beach volleyball. That is
how I keep active. A big beach volleyball girl. That's
the only way. I've always said I need to move
to New York because I'm not an outdoorsy person. And
I know that's not a good thing to say because
I feel like it's not an attractive trait. But I'm
an outdoor person at all. Like really, that's why I
(15:20):
think New York. I love the energy of New York.
The only thing that gets me outside is playing beach
volleyball and feeling good about you like who This is fun,
doesn't feel like a workout, and it's social. You know,
you talk to people.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Do you play with the full team or just like too? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, yeah we play sometimes it's too Sometimes it's like
a team. I was in a in a league back
in January, so we go every Sunday. We play. It's
like competitive. I'm a very competitive person.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So on a scale one to five? How competitive are you?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Have you seen?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Granted? Have you seen?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I just I want to hear from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I got concussed, so just that, mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I need to know. Do you cook?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
So?
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Okay, you're very similar to Kathy my You know.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
One of my fun sacks when the thing came out
was that I'm obsessed with cooking shows.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Obsessed. Can I no?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I love.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:25):
No? No?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I cooked for Kathy.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yeah, no, I mean, why cook when you can do
anything else?
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Think you know what Kathy is like, it takes an
hour and you finish it in what five minutes?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And then you want to.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
However, however, I am a Crackerjack dishwasher, like I will
do the dishes.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
If someone cooks, oh.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Like you'll do yes, It's well, that's courtesy coming Curtesy.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
If you're going to cook, absolutely, Okay, I'm going to
change it up just a little bit. In one word,
describe your experience on The Bachelor work give me one.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Mmm roller coaster. I know it's not an adjective, it's
a noun, but like.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
I think that's actually fair. There are a lot of
ups and downs on these.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
Because I started so bubbly. It's like my real personality.
And for some reason, as the weeks went by, I
was like depleted and depleted all your energy it does,
and I could, I like didn't recognize myself. I was like,
this is not me. Like every morning I was like, okay,
go like go in with like you know, being Alex.
And I was like, and people are like Alex.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Who took my happy? So is there anything that you
learned about yourself that you'll carry over if you're asked
to go on Paradise.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
I think what I did? You know this is okay.
Before I left, I got one text from a friend
and it sounds corny to say, but she said, be
yourself and everyone will love you. And that's what I
did from night one. I didn't like hide any parts
of myself. I said things like impulse and there's a
lot of things that weren't shown that I was like,
look coming out of my mouth and the girls were like,
(18:14):
oh my gosh, and it shined through the screen and
you know, people saw that. You know, it was just this.
You don't have to you know, if you're yourself the
whole season and you go out, you don't have to
like be someone You're like, it's exhausting after a while.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Ye like, so did you change do you?
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Did you come off the show different? Like, you know,
I want to hear where your friends were on the show.
Do you still see them? But how do you feel now?
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Well? One thing that if I don't know if I
understood the question right, so I'll answer. If it's not,
please redirect me. One thing that my friends did say
or a lot of people were like, it's it's it
was so fun to watch because it felt like we
were just watching Alex on TV right, like you recognized, Yes,
but and that really felt like like that. I really
agreed hearing that. And yes, I kept a lot of
my you know, friends, really close to Nalie. I'm really
(19:00):
close to Chloe and Letia. Yeah, so I kept really
really close friends that it's like an experience, and you
guys would know, it's like an experience that you will
never share with anybody else in the world. I'm a
little bit like if I do go in perison, like
there's too many fishing to see. If you're interested in him,
please go for him, Like I'm not. I don't want
to put a friend a girl friendship.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
So tell us after you come off the show. Now,
has your dm it blowing up? Have you gone on
any dates?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Mm hmm. I have been on kind of like one
date one person that like, I was like, oh wait,
this could be fun, and he's actually someone who's like
so similar. It's someone who watched the show who then
set me up with their friend and he reached out
and he's so similar to me. It's like literally looking
in the mirror and yeah, we've gone in a couple
(19:48):
of dates. It was fun good.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I want to know what made you go on? Did
you submit yourself? How did you end up going on
the Bachelor?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
So it was last summer. I'm drive with my friend
and I get a message on Instagram like, hey, you
would be great for the Bachelor. I'm usually it's all scams, right,
so that are all asking for like feet pick for
like twenty dollars, And I'm like, oh, what's the same.
So I woke it up and I'm like, oh, I
think it's legit. Let me just okay, let's see if
you know. So we have the first interview. Someone reached out.
(20:17):
And I am a big believer that not everything happens
for a reason, but the universe working in your favor
right when you manifest and everything. And my life I
had just you know, ended a relationship that had been
you know, on and off for like five years, and
it was just like the perfect timing. It was almost
like the universe being like, okay, you need this to
(20:38):
move on from this back and forth. Yeah, and that
it just happened at the perfect time. If it would
have been a year before, I was just not ready
I was not there. I you know, it was just
not my best self, I guess, and it happened at
me perfect time.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Wowesome, it's such. It's you know, things do happen, Susan
always pleased. Everything happens for a reason I perceived it,
or a season. I think sometimes things do, but sometimes
it's just, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
It's a reason. You learn something from every experience.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Every experience that you go through. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay, So I heard Susan, I have been Both of
you get asked because I'll be out of here podcasting, going,
I wonder what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Well, I can tell you what I'll be doing. I'll
be ironing the clothes for the young ones. I want
to know, are there are other updates in your life?
Speaker 2 (21:26):
What you know? Is there anything we need to know?
Speaker 4 (21:29):
I boring?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
She's waiting for the call for paradise.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I go to paradise. If I'm going to to a
beautiful exotic country.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
How hard is to pack? You have all the clothes.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I do have all the clothes. Y'all will forget probably
half of my underwear. That's I'm always like, and I
will bring something so irrelevant that I don't need there.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
What about the guy that you dated a couple of times.
Do you have any feelings about if you're asked, would
you tell him or would you just you know?
Speaker 4 (22:01):
And he's so supportive, He's like, I want you to
have fun to you know, you're young, Like I would
never want you to good something for me because we
just met.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Right, Let's just be honest here and you and I
are both leaving with a ring and a date.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
She asked me today, I got to check.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Gold.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That's white gold on your ring, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
No? This this ring is yellow gold, yellow gold. But
I can go white gold, I can go platinum. You
know what.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Just find me the guy. I actually don't care about
the ring. I just want the nice guy.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And that is the truth true.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I want the ring, to want the ring.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I had a ring. I had a great ring. I
had a great husband. I had a great ring.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Now I am here's what do you have any questions
for Kathy and I?
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yes, okay, what would be your advice you know, going
into as you know, I'm sure you've dated a lot,
and what would be like your advice to a twenty
eight year old and who hasn't you know found.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
The same that's already covered, covered for yourself. For yourself,
a red flag is a red flag if you see
something you're not going to change. Yeah, so just.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
You know you can get them to put his socks
in the hamper, you give them to wear polo shirt
and said, I have.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
Those red flags, Kathy, So those are those are my Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Don't you know, just you know, you'll it'll be a feeling.
You'll know.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
I always say my advice to I gave to all
my kids, and I'll give to you. Do the things
you love, be who you are, and the right people
will come into your life.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I love.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
That's all right, and I'm living proof.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Okay, speaking of advice, we are going to go into
the advice portion of our episode and we're going to
kick things off Alex with the question of the day,
and we.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Want your thoughts on it. So here it is, how
do you determine if a guy you've started seeing could
be right for you? What things do you look for
once you've established a mutual connection.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
I'm going to speak in with my experience for me,
I you have to check in with yourself what your
non negotiables are, first of all, because if it's going
to be someone long term. You want to make sure
that you're seeing eye to eye. And people have made
relationships work where you have different values, different political views.
I've tried it. It wasn't for me, but usually you
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want to be aligned with those And I think you know,
love is not always going to be feeling. It's it's
a choice. It's the person that you you choose to
you know, have your life. So I think that will
laugh Like for me, that's what it is like if
you make me laugh and you're a good person and you,
you know, inspire me to do better things that are
aligned with my values, like I don't you know that's
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to me, it's the.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
As a winner and how he makes you feel what
I feel when you're.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
With him, uplifted when.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You're with him, or but okay, those are all the
love romantic things, but you know, and you look for
all those things, but you also have to think about
at your age, you're building a career, you know the guys,
your partner's building a career, where you're going to live.
How are you going to balance careers? How are you
going to balance how what do I mean? Those things
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you have to consider as well.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Absolutely absolutely, and I think that's it's important to like
establish that right away. And if, like you said, if
your careers are going to match. If again, for me,
if I want to look for someone who's spontaneous, I
love my career, but if someone who's too career driven.
Not saying I don't want someone who's on the couch,
but I mean I want someone who still has that spontaneity.
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And I feel like you need you need to find
a balance.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Balance.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
You're going to circle back to what we said at
the beginning. Is for me, I can't be with someone
who's exactly exactly like me because I said to Grant
and you said, I'll always remember this first, and I go,
if I was with someone like me, I would be
in Morocco with five dollars in my pocket on a
campra r will like be like you, but also will
be able to balance you out. So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And what about what they want in the future, Whether
you want a family and children.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Yes, that's what I mean by like the you need
to know.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
You you have to decide are you going to live
in the same city?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Are you you know? Those are things at your age,
in your generation. So many mar So Susan in our generation, truly,
you guys have huge careers. Yeah, some of you work
you know, long distance, remotely, whatever, but those are real
concerns and raising family.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Who's going to be home.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
I mean, all those other characteristics are important, but you
really have to think about that.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
You do not immediately, like you got to get a
connection going first, and like you said, you have to
have the gift of laughter. That's right, that's right, but
a serious side as well.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Because even for like with my on my my past relationship,
I think that's where we went at like a roadblock
where we talked about, you know, our values and our beliefs,
and you said, when we want to raise kids, that's
going to be an issue, right, And it's not that
we didn't love each other, it's just that because we
had so much fun together, but it was just we
got ahead and we said, if we have kids, I
want to raise them this way, and you said, well,
I want to raise them that way. And unless you're
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able to find like a compromise and I talked about
it on The Bachelor. Lot to Grant is like for me,
it's a lot about compromising because if you're willing to
compromise and you can come to a middle ground. But
if you're not absolutely and you're going to have issues,
you know, your whole relationship and your.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I you know what I I think that is so again, Susan,
I talked about how so many of the women from
Grant season, including you, that beautiful. But you guys are smart,
You're wise beyond your years, and you you know, you
have figured it out. That compromising that's the only way
you make it through a relationship communication.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, compromise.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
It can't be excited, right because I think a lot
of it unless you Again, it's it also comes down
to to your non negotiables though, right, Like there's non negotiables.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
What is your biggest non negotiable?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I think for a long time it was religion, and
now I'm a little bit more open to it. Me.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I mean, we don't have to talk religion, but you
mean it had to be your same religion that the
guy had to be your sad religion or.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Whatever. My beliefs were in that, yeah, like I don't
believe or I believe, And I was like, you know,
I you know, I was raised Catholic and my grandmother
made me go to church every Sunday, and I just
don't have a different relationship with my right now. But
I starting, you know this, it's crazy, you know, as
we'll talk about it. But this weekend I joke with
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my friend, I'm like, I have a new I think,
how would I say this in English? I'm trying to
find the words. I think. You know, it kind of
pushed me away, I think from when it because it
was forced when I was growing up, And the last
couple of weeks through months have been just so I've
been just so grateful that I'm like, wow, I feel
like someone's working in my favor.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
But you know what, like at the stage of the game,
as long as they have a belief and you have
to respect theirs. Same with politics. I mean there's a
lot of people today that will break up friendships over it.
But you have to be able to give your partner
the respect that he deserves and he in turn gives
you something that you don't discuss. Then it's it still
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can work even though you have opposite thoughts about absolutely.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
I know, and that's the thing with my past relationship.
We had different political views and religion, so I think
it was just a lot like I think I can
do one, but when it comes to like so many
different things everything yet and it's something I have to
work on, is that I'm an instigator. Like if I
don't like I can't understand your way of thinking, I
can't like I'm someone who can see both sides. But
sometimes I'm just like.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I think you and I are twins out I think.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
So I'm watching this, okay, I am watching this. How
are you?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
How are like? How do you are you an insigat
or two? A little?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh yeah, yes, I'm like, I can't shut it.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I'm like, don't say it, don't say well, why did
you do that?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I'm like, I understand what you're saying, but really, what
were you saying? FORDA, Yeah, let's talk. I think we're
sisters from another mother.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
I'm oh my god, it's so blessed.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Okay, so now we've got we're moving on here because
we have questions advice time.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Probably a fan who needs some advice you want to help,
says and go on to go ahead and read it.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
This is from Carly. Hi, ladies, I'm really hoping you
can help. I've been dating this guy for about two
months and I really like him, He's a much kinder
and healthier partner than any of my exes or flings.
The problem is he kind of gets me the ick.
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I don't know if it's because I'm genuinely not interested
in him or I'm just not used to sweeties. He
says things like I can't believe a girl like you
would go for a guy like me. He doesn't say
it in a way that's like sad lol or phishing
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for compliments, So it's not that he's super insecure. I
just feel blat when he gets overly mushy. Is there
a way that I can talk to him about this
without hurting his feelings? Or am I just like not
into him? Thanks? Ladies. I developed two opinions while reading.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, well, what says you? Alex? Go first?
Speaker 4 (31:47):
I go first? Oh yeah, okay, So first of all,
I empathize with her because I understand where she's coming from,
because I think from a biological standpoint, we want the alpha, right,
we want someone to like feel like they're the prize.
And I think if he's leading with I can't believe
you would go with someone like me? Well, we think
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as I think as me Anyways, I would think, oh no, secure,
and you're insecure, right, I don't want to goure, So
your feelings are totally valid. I think a lot of
women would feel the same way. But it doesn't mean
that it's not something that he can work on. And
if you can, just I think be like that. I mean,
maybe I'm too blunt, but I mean, if you like
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him and he likes you, just be honest. I would
just say, like, hey, you know what you're great and
you should know that, and you know you don't have
to tell me that. There. I would just tell him, like,
just be more confident, don't tell me that you know
that's me. I'm a little blunt with guys, so I'm like,
that make me awkward, I would say, makes me awkward.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
And then if if a guy gives you the ick,
I'm stuck on he gives me the I'm out if
he gives me the air.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
Because listen, and it's fun that we're talking about this
because I did another pod where my words got twisted
when I never said that Grant gave me the eck,
but I said that the piano gave me the it.
Because for me, I am not a musical person. When
someone serenades me on the firth. It makes me a
little awkward. I'm like, you know, And people ran with
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that and they were like, well, Alex is saying that
Grant gave him the it. No, no, no, and it
is not a deal breaker, right, and you can get
over an eck, you can. And it's I used to
get the egg from my ex all the time, and
you have white want to.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
She said, So you're saying it's it's an aspect of
him that gave gives you the ap not like I read.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
It, he gives me the eck, oh the whole that's
what I to. But you're right, maybe it's just that aspect.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I think it's just that aspect when he says and
he says all that mushy stuff of like, oh, I
can't believe you're with me. I think it's a psychological
thing for her of like oh, like is he not
a catch? Like and I think that's what's giving her like, oh,
I'm not into him.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Like I couldn't agree with you or my take on
this though. If you're my age, you want that guy.
You want that guy that thinks you're all that plus
sum instead of the bad boy that we're all attracted
to most of our lives. You want the man that says, wow.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Wait, excuse me, Alex. Have you always been attracted to
bad boys?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
It's something I'm on learning now.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Granted, Alex, I was married at twenty. I met my
husband when I was Jeff, Sorry, no, I was, Oh,
I do not like bad boys. I don't go after him.
I don't go after him. I don't trust him. I
want a good, solid, kind man. And that's what I
had for my marriage. Well at twenty. I mean, I
knew I just and Susan We've talked about that. Susan
was as attracted to the bad guys. And I'm like,
(34:45):
how long does it take you to learn that a
bad guy who's messing around you know?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
That doesn't that bad guy doesn't mean he's cheating, like
just a popular guy, a guy that is very.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Sure that's not a bad guy.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
No, but there's something about them.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
There's something about or getting the guy. I think that
is so sought out for me anyways, sought after and
he chooses you out of what I liked. I was like, oh,
he chose me. You feel special, right, But I think
you can get over the I I think if communication,
if she communicates with him, and I know she said
without hurting his feeling.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I think she's more worldly than he is. He's a
little bit it's they say, not insecure, but he is.
He never thought he could get a girl like that.
But you don't voice it, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It makes it makes a girl think, oh, maybe he's
not all that. Maybe what am I doing with him?
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Yes, instead say say something.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
Because you address that without hurting his feelings. That's the
thing that I'm I don't.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I would love a guy to say musty stuff to me.
So you know this is I got. I got nothing there.
I'm like, I'm like, Carly, send me his name and
number if he's in appropriate.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Sweet enough. Maybe she just felt uncomfortable well because he
was saying that.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
All right, Well, Carly, you got to let us know.
We want to know.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yes, inquiring minds want to know if you stuck with him.
But I think I think we're all saying the same thing.
Maybe talk to him kindly and just tell him how
it makes you feel, because that's good communication. And if
you want it to be you know better than what
it is, you have to work at it.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Right.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
You might be the best guy in the world for
him a little bit because he's but I think at
the end of the day, he seems like you're He
really really likes you, So I think you'll just appreciate
that you're communicating with I agree.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
We want to know so you've gotten we've got to
know you a little bit better. We want to open
the floor to you. Do you have any questions for us, comments,
concerned anything, anything?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
So fun?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
And I feel so bad because I was not a
reality TV person and I didn't.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Didn't watch and I didn't watch a lot of.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Oh my gosh, guys, but what, okay, tell me about
your friendship.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
We met on the show.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
We met first night, Yeah, the first time. I don't
actually remember. I just remember the pictures.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I remember we took up That's what we remember.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Somebody somehow we ended up in front of the fireplace
in the mansion and they took a picture and we were.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Talking and we just hit it off.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
And then we ended up just coincidentally being uh, in
the sharing a bedroom. And then you know, I would
never I mean, Susan comes from a big Italian family.
I mean, she's a shopper, she's a makeup girl. I'm
just like, I want to go for a high cook
and she's a cook. I'm I loved a needle point.
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I'm but I'm not a shopper. I want someone to
make me look good. I don't want I don't want
to take the Africans.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Funny is the first night they asked me, what's one
thing you don't want to do, and I go, don't
bring me shopping. I hate shopping.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Gosh, I called you got did you call it too?
As soon as you started talking, I'm like the two
when you said about the kitchen, I knew.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yeah, and I don't want. I like to look nice
and I know you like nice.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Because of course, of course that goes without saying exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
So that's that's how we made friends. It was just andial,
it was just and they were in the same room.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Went through the whole show together. I mean we stayed
you know, four and fifth rose ceremony. So we got
to know each other.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Not support when you go through an experience.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
But I will tell you, Susan has taught me like
we're very different people. Anybody can see that we're very
different people. I'm a I'm just we're both very outgoing
and now and now we're diverging because now Susan has
a guy and I don't. I'm gonna keep rubbing your
nose in that, Susan as.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Long as I can.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
But we we have fun together. Susan has helped me shop,
She's helped me updated. Now I'm getting a haircut again,
you know, update my look.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Remember your closet cats. When I came, I came to Austin,
I married, I performed this ceremony for Kathy's son.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah, what's that show? You would take someone and they
would like dress them up?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
And then I don't know if that show is still around?
Could they pick me please?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
On TLC. I'm pretty sure, like after the dress, what
not to wear?
Speaker 3 (39:08):
That would be me. I'm in their closet. They gotta go.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
She got rid of clothes. She took me sharp and she's.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Up me and that's fine for me.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yes, I'd rather stab myself. I'd rather stand.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Kathy has taught me grammar when to say I or
me and thinks you know.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
We took each other smith. I'm a girl.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Language linguistics.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Love that linguistics language studied Speakanish, German. I can't speak
any of them, but just enough to introduce people you know,
but I love language.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I love language, so anything else.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Yeah, I guess. I guess. I asked kind of like
in the middle of the episode, what was like one advice,
but we kind of talked about it. But oh, it's
great to see you guys. You know, just that friendship
and it's also motivating for us, like, you know, the
friendships that we're going to make if you know forever.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Did you make some good friendship from your season?
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Yes, And it's funny. You guys remind me of me
and Chloe where it's like we're super outgoing, but like
we're so different at the same time.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, so this one. Kathy and I asked this a lot.
If you were on a deserted island and you could
only take three people from your season when you're looking
at the two of them right now and why and.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
You're looking at it would be Chloe, Natalie and now
and Letia and.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Well then again Letia, Natalie and Chloe and Chloe. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Nalie's like my my closest, like my rock. She It's funny.
At one point we were saying, if they decide to
show the edit of me and Chloe, they're going to
think or me and Nalie. They're gonna think, oh, what
kind of relationship? Was going close? Either cry in her
arms or I was like braiding her hair. We're like
always touching. And then at the when she got eliminated,
I was bobbing and I was like, she goes, You're
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going to do just fine without And then the next
day when I saw Grant, I go, you know, I
was crying, But it's just because you said my best
friend home.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
You know what, Honesty is always the best policy.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
It is exactly.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I mean I went home one rose before Susan and
I was ready to go. I mean Gary and I
were not a match made in heaven or in the Bronx,
or in Queens or anywhere anywhere else, anywhere anywhere, but
nice guy, nice guy, but not my guy.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
But I missed.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
I missed the girls. I couldn't wait until everybody came
home so we could talk.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Yes, And is that still have week?
Speaker 2 (41:39):
We still have a large.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
Two all friends that you're close with.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
We talked to all of them, but there's a certain
few of us that are every day.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah, Susan, Nancy, we're we're kind of are the you know,
the ones that we talked about.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
But we love I mean, I talked to Leslie occasionally.
We talked.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
You know, there's a lot of Fame and Ellen, Sandra,
there's a.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Lot of them, and we have a big do you
have a chat chain, you know.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Like some little sub groups of you know, and I
keep touch with Caresa and Beverly and ye Ali Joe.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yeah, we talked with Ali Jo.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I always this is Jersey Girl.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Every morning, everybody was. I loved it.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
That's the accent. You know, you could have done that.
You could have helped me with that accent, with your
speech pathology.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
You know.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
No, I don't want to get rid of her accent.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
I love it. Coffee, it's coffee and water. Water. Well,
this has been so much fun.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
I had a blast.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Guy.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
I hope you both get called. I really really do.
I cannot wait to hear the stories. I love this
and I really hope that both of you, both of
you find your person in love. Susan, Yes, that's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (43:05):
This is what we want at the end of this
is that's right.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
That's right, and it's when I least expected. I was
on vacation with Kathy. Actually, oh, that's how they met.
I introduced them in French. He doesn't speak English. He's French,
he does not speak English.
Speaker 4 (43:20):
He doesn't because you knew French.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
Well I don't, no, no, no, I was just French, Spanish, English.
I just introduced them, you know, I mean everybody can say,
I mean helloiento.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
You know, play anyhow. I hope you find a French, Italian, German, Irish.
I don't care who he is, but may you both
be matched, not together though, it's all good, It's all good.
This is so much fun. I hate to say this part,
but I think that does it for the episode, and
(44:01):
we're gonna have to say goodbye and thank you so
much for joining us, and for everybody out there listening.
This is going to be it for Bachelor Happy Hours,
Golden Hour, and thank you to our lovely guest Alex
for joining us and dishing out some great advice. And
if she does get asked and finds her person, we
will definitely have her back.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
On absolutely and we really did love getting to chat
with you all.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
You ladies are amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
You are another strong, beautiful, intelligent woman, So celebrate that.
Thank you everyone else for joining us, and be sure
to follow Bachelor Happy Hour. We have new episodes coming
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Speaker 3 (44:45):
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