September 30, 2025 • 36 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re sitting down with our very first guest of “The Golden Bachelor” Season 2: Gerri! The First Impression Rose recipient is here to tell us all about her journey so far. With an incredible story of overcoming loss and adapting to single parenting, there are so many layers to Gerri that we are excited to delve into. She tells us all about how she prepared and how her children were incredibly supportive — it’s Gerri’s turn! We hear about her feelings for Mel, including how she reacted to his comments and what his apology meant to her. We also hear about the moment she received the First Impression Rose and how that felt. Plus, we invite her to ask Kathy and Susan anything she wants to know! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Kathy
and I are so excited to be joining you again today.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So excited to be back today, though we have such
a special guest. Please welcome from this season of the
Golden Bachelor. Jerry's here. Hi, Jerry, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Jerry?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Excited? I am great, I am doing so good, so good.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We are so excited to have you here. You're our
very first guest from the very first second Golden Bachelor.
A lot of first there.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yet, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
There's so much we want to dive into today. We've
got to get started. We have a zillion questions, but
we want to know about you.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Okay, what about me? What about Cherry Flowers? Cherry Flowers
an amazing mom, Jerry Flowers, a CEO owner of a
home care agency, Jerry Flowers who is looking for love.
Jerry Flowers, who was given one hundred and fifty percent
to people. You name it. If they say, if they
(01:17):
said my name, she's a giver, she's a listener, she's amazing.
I mean, wow, they would say.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That you were so amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So Jerry, tell us what we're going to get into
all that? You know, we wanted how you got on
the show. We want to know, but what was dating
like before? Before you went on the show? What was
dating like for you? Kind of like my dating life
A big good.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
We all have similarities, don't we.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Well, I will tell you. When I first got interviewed
for the show, said to me, first of all, this
is not your real aid. Second of all, what's the
matter with the men in Rockville? And I said, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Did you say how much time do you have? Because
I'll explain it to you right.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Had you ever watched the show before?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I have? My mother loved the show. My mother loved
the show, and the person who signed me up for
Gay Melnick loves both of you, loves sending hugs and
loves loves you. But you know dating was not on
my radar. It was, and I'll be transparent about that.
I mean, dating is a type of thing where you
have to go out and invest and do it and
work on it. My investment was my children, who you know,
(02:27):
you know my story. My husband died at forty seven
and left me with a fourteen year old, eight year
old and four year old, and I'm like, what am
I supposed to do with these children who I adore.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, so wait, I have to I have to jump ahead.
I mean, we're going to talk about you know, the
first repressure is all that, but a widow at forty
seven and raising kids. And when you sat and talked
with mel like that really resonated with him that you
(02:57):
said it. You said it had been eighteen years and
now it was your time talking to us a little
bit about that, because.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I mean, forty seven years old, you know, he's here today,
gone tomorrow. Had no like, what am I doing with
my life? We're supposed to retire, We're supposed to talk
with our children. Is supposed to do for college? What
am I supposed to do with these children? And I'm
saying I never said why me? Never said that because
my philosophy was why not me? Why not me? Because
(03:28):
I had recently, not recently, like maybe eighteen years, fourteen
years prior to that, I had lost my son at
fourteen years old, So I had lost a son as well.
So I was like, Okay, I've got to get up
and do this.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I did it.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But dating was not on my radar because these little
people needed me, they were really I was too busy.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So I was you. I mean, you are raising kids
is a it's a serious endeavor. I mean, any of
us who do it, we know right. All shared that
in comment What did your kids say when you decided
to come on the show.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
They were so elated, they were so happy. They were like, Mom,
you have given us so much. It is your time.
You know. It was really symbolic. My son David said
to me one dawn, never forget, He said, Mom, you
never laugh. Why don't you laugh? I was like wow.
(04:29):
And then when I got ready to go on the show,
he said, Mom, I was laughing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
How old are your kids, Jerry? How old are your children? Now?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I have a thirty two year old who just blessed
me who's getting married fiance. She has a fiance, Mike,
Oh yeah, who blessed me with this amazing little boy
three months old now, Michael David Alexander. He is was
born juneteenth. Okay. Then I have my doctor Flowers, Amber Flowers,
(05:01):
who is getting married to her doctor Miles Simms on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh boy, you're a busy lady.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Oh you can't even imagine. I won't even tell you
where I parked my car for this. I don't even
know where my car is when I go out, don't
know where it's at.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And when you shared it's your time, it's both of
your times.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
When you said that to Mel.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Because it was. And then I had David. David, who, ladies,
there's nothing worse for your son at four years old
to run downstairs and I say, I have a surprise
for you, and he said, Mommy, Daddy's coming home. Oh god.
I said, no, sweetheart, Daddy's not coming home. But I
have something else for you. But no, and those and
(05:45):
my children. So we have the thirty one year old,
the twenty seven year old, and then we have David
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Wow. Wow, that's that's that's a lot. But you know what,
you have the energy. I mean that to me. Obviously
we we we were on that show and we had
those poignant moments with our Gary. But I found it
(06:12):
so interesting that you were able to open up so
easily about your time and that you had raised your kids.
And Mel was so open in this first episode about
him raising his children. And I love that it just
you and you said, I really feel like I have
(06:32):
a strong connection with him. Talk about that.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I did, because it was so I don't talk about
it much, Kathy, I really don't. I don't go around
saying I worked for a job for a year and
a half. I didn't even know my husband had passed.
I don't go around talking about it. So for some
reason with him, that twinkle in his eye, that sincerity,
I just opened up. I just opened up.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Did you feel better? Did you feel good?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I felt so much better, Susan. You know, I don't
want to say it's a burden. It's not a burden,
because it's been a blessing and a gift. But it's
so nice to talk about it and talk about it
to the point that I've done what I needed to do.
I've given them the foundation, and now I can be
I don't want to use the word selfish, but now
I can be selfish. You can and do something with Jared.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's about you now.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It's really about me. It's really about me, and I
say that sincerely. It's really about me.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I'm very curious how you balance. You are CEO of
a home health care and you have kids and your
planning weddings. How are you Before we even get into
night one, which we're about to get into, I want
to know how I'm a mother of three and I
have two grandchildren, So how do you balance all of that?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You know? I just first of all, I pray, ladies.
I'm going to just be very transparent about that. I
pray first, and God give me the strain because I
get tired. I get tired, but I just keep going.
I just keep going, and I just say, why not me?
First of all, I have life. I mean one thing
about this show. Everybody's going to finally know my age.
(08:15):
My children never knew my age. My children didn't know
my age. And I have a big birthday and I'm
gonna be sixty five.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And you know what, congratulas, freaking proud of you.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I am right, you are damn Do you need medicare?
Do you need medicare? Advice that can help you out? Jared?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
You know what, I have been putting that off for
a month. ARP trash, trash, I can't do this, but
you know what, You're just how welcome it?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Just welcome it. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know it's coming for you, whether you're ready or not.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
What did you do, if anything special, to prepare for
this journey, Like, what were your thoughts going into it?
Getting on the airplane and thinking, wow, what am I
about to do?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know, I only told very few people, like I
have a few friends of mine. They're still mad at me.
I didn't tell them. I don't. But I only told
very few, my small circle and my prayer partner and
my children, and of course I had to tell my
hair dress because I hadn't do my.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Hair, so that was that's a must, That's a must.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
But I told very little and I just prayed on it,
and I just said the biggest thing for me if
my grandson would have been born July ninth, I wasn't coming,
but he was born juneteenth, and I said, I'm going ready.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That was okay. So let you know, we've all been there.
We've all been in that limo. Talk to us about
night one. You know how I know how I felt.
I was. I thought I was going to trip walking
across that dropperty, how did you feel getting out of
the limo?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I was like, what am I doing? Don't forget I
had the cap on, so I'm like, please don't let
the cap go to the side. I'll be on TV.
My steff Is scope is going to choke me as.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'm getting we heard you we heard. The world heard
you say you were going to take care of all
of his needs. We all heard it.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, well I did, and I'm and I like that.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You want you, like to be his dessert after a
long day's work, and now he was hungry.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I hope he was.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I hope when you actually laid eyes on him, Like,
what did you feel?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
My?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
He was so he's handsome. To the point that I'm
telling you, ladies, I felt butterflies. Who feels butterflies at
sixty four years old?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
We all want to that's that's that's what we're looking for.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And ladies, I want to tell you, and I won't
tell you else what was tingling else? Also too, I
won't I won't tell you because I'm like, wait a minute,
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It was the word I'm alive.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So were you nervous? Get now, obviously you know your
your your body parts were talking to you, But were
you nervously talking.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
To My only thing was that Heck, that was the
only thing that was making me nervously. I didn't want
it to fall. Yeah, I didn't want that hack.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, how about when I saw the other women, like
the women are gorgeous, The women were beautiful, the women
were just.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
But it's one of those things. And this is true.
We are all fearfully and beautifully made, So don't compare yourself.
There's a reason why you are here, and you're unique,
and if you can hold on to that, because it's
a lot. The women are beautiful, they all are. They
look great, you know. I when I came back, I
got a personal trainer, you know, because but but you
(11:43):
are who you are and that's what I want the
ladies to understand out there, And you are who you are.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah. Well, and I think that is a great message.
Our message has always been you know, this is our chapter.
This is your next chapter of your life, and you know,
we all want to make it the best chapter. And
I think all of the women, I think we share
that coming into this environment that so few women get
to experience, that we are special and we should feel
(12:15):
special about ourselves. And you clearly get it now.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh yeah, and my daughter, my doctor Flower, says to
me all the time, Mom, this is your chapter. Now,
this is your turn. You're living what people did in
their twenties because you were raising a sick child. You're
doing in your sixties. And how fun is that and
how much wisdom now that you.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Have, right well, and that's what makes it so much
better because you've had your life, your experiences, and now
again it's time for you and to be able to
do something like this.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Do you think do you think it's harder or easier
at this age to date with all the things you
have in your life.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
It might be easier just because you're a little more pickier.
You know what I'm saying. You're not falling for the lines? Yeah? Really? Right? Okay,
come on, now, you know what I'm saying, Like really,
you know you can see through that. I don't want
to say it the bs.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, okay, so and so you clearly are. I love
you because you're direct like I am. And I love
that you say what you mean, You mean what you say.
How shocked were you when you I wasn't. How shocked
were you when you got the first impression? Bross?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Are you kidding me? I was floored at first. I
was out of my mind. I was like I couldn't
even say I'm sure that that's what came across. I'm like,
what did he just call my name? Really? Did I really? My? My?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
My?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Both my girls were when they got engaged. It was
a surprise. I know how they felt.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
With that felt like this because I was surprise.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Listen, Jerry, you clearly are someone who is who they
say they are. And I think I think everyone sees
that about you in this first episode. Really, I think so.
I mean I I was not at all surprised that,
and the lady.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Said that all the ladies, even though they clearly knew
what it meant. When I saw the rose, you know me,
you know, I was happy drinking my prosecco. I was
happy to have lamark. I was a happy even though
the good time.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I look good, I feel good.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'm not taking care of anybody.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Jerry. I beat a track to the bar. I had
like a little golden pathway to the bar.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I know, why does a bartender know my name? But
it was just a lot. But I was happy. I
was happy. So when the rose came, I was like down.
When it was on the table on the plate, I said, oh,
that's a pretty rose. Let me go get some more
of lamarca. And that's how I I just didn't. I
(15:01):
had no idea I had.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's a nice surprise, but I feel like you're the
girl who you're the woman who just is who you are.
You come out as yourself. And I think Mel really
appreciated that because I want to know what you think.
You know what you went through, right, you had all
the girls. What do you think he was going through
that first night? What do you think? Well?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I was just getting ready to say that. First of all,
he had to face all us beautiful women when you
walked into that that that living room, and you could
tell he was like, oh you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I mean, can you ask? And can you imagine? I
think I hope everybody when they watched this first episode
gives this guy some grace. I know you all did,
because how many times personally I can speak, have said
stupid things off the cuff. And I think when he
saw you women, I think it was a you know,
(16:08):
a slap, not literally, but a slap in the face.
Well he got a puppet slap, but you know what
I mean, I think it was I think he really
thought Wow. I think do you agree? Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I agree one hundred, one hundred and fifty percent. Yeah,
I agree, because I sat there, I saw them, I
saw and you know what I saw more than anything.
I saw their hearts. I saw their hearts. I mean
I was like the person they came to to pray
for every day, whatever they were playing, I was praying
for them whatever. And they all really accepted his apology.
(16:43):
I felt that very sincerely.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You know, even I did one of them. I did
it because I was one to judge. I didn't like
what he had to say. I was like, okay, hearing
him and being humble and really was grateful for the
in this that you women gave.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Him, and I love to start over, for this.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Journey that he wanted to go on. I really took
a different.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Who's perfect. The only man I know that's perfect is
the man upstairs.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We all open our mouths and insert foot from time
to time.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I do it a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I also you all when he apologized, and I thought
his his reaction was real. I mean, I don't think
there's anything put on about that, and I think a
lot of people. You guys, I mean, did you feel
like this is not going to go well until you
(17:42):
saw him. I just wonder how you felt up coming
up to it, because we're I mean, yeah, I'm talking
about what he had said. Were you like this guy's
really gonna have to prove it to me, because I
love a man who will say I need to earn
it back, and I about him.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I think so. And I'm telling you I heard the
comment and I'm like, what's up with that? And then
you know, you know the rumors they're getting rid of them,
they have a new one whatever, And I was just like,
you know what I'm going, and I'm going because some
people said, oh, you shouldn't go. Why are you going?
(18:21):
They were just talking. They didn't know what was going on.
They didn't even know I was going to be on
the show. I didn't know, and I was like, come on, guys,
let's give him some I'm when I say, even when
we were interviewing the first night, they said to me that,
I said, you know what, I hear what you all
are saying. I accept his apology, and don't ask me
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I don't want to hear it behind me. It's behind
me very sincere very.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
And that's okay, let's start this over.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay. So, so, so we're we're all in a love melfest.
Now I haven't met him yet, but I'm looking forward.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
You haven't met mew.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No, I'm looking forward to it, but I want to
know uh that I have to tell you I went
into paralysis over the cheerleading. I was the cheerleader. Uh
but the fact that you all learned those cheers that
cheer so quickly. Tell me about that. What was that
like for you doing and seeing Paula? What?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
First of all? First of all, just well back up.
We were listening to her song the Oh my God.
So we were all excited. I'm team Paula. I'm team
So we get out there and when they we thought
we're going to play flag football. You know, us women
were we like to take control. We kind of know
what's going to go on. We all we know that
and we had no idea. So when she came out,
(19:42):
it was like, oh my goodness, and you want us
to do what now?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Wait? Well wait, Jerry, you all, I'm assuming you came
to the stadium in your cheer outfits? Yes, no, oh
put them on? Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I asked Kathy with the costumes and we had to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I you remember he came.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
We came an athletic where okay, and we're just like, okay,
we're gonna have to play flag.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
That makes sense. Okay, that makes total sense because and
that's and every.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Every one of us said that. Everyone said the flag football,
We're gonna do some type of drill or he's gonna
make us exhaust. You know, we all.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
You know, who can throw the longest pass kind of thing?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Ye, who can throw the longest who can catch them?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
We all?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And when he.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Impressed, I will say, he looked it was it's both
of you.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Both teams did a great job. I mean you really did.
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
We had a few that were like, okay, Jerry, be serious,
now come on, Cherry, leave me alone. But you know,
but some are very serious. And I and I was.
I was good because I was a dancer a little bit.
And look my daughter did cheer was.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
There were a lot of dancer. I mean there's you,
there's uh, Cindy's a dancer. There's a couple of other
dancers there was.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
They were phenomenal. They were. But you know what was
good about they all help us. They helped us.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, that's what women do, left, Jerry, that's what women.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
At this point in time.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Is your heart getting like are you into him?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Are you watching it?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Into him?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Okay, A lot of them were already into him. Okay,
I was getting there, I.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Was getting so So who were your friends? I want
to know because on our season there, as you just
pointed out, there were some women in our season that
were more into Gary in the beginning than others of us.
So who did you gravitate to? Who are your friends?
And how did that work with the positioning, if you will?
(21:48):
With mel well with.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Us, we had the smallest room, but we had the
best room. We had Carol Carol who is my ace,
Carol Carroll Carroll, And we had Cindy who was in
our room. So she used to come over and like,
this is your room, get out, So she said, would
come over, get out, Cidy. And then we had Amy
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and then Robin.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Those are great women, and then we had.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
The other ones that came in. We were like the
party room to the to the point the handlers used
to say, are you guys, okay, what are you doing here?
And we're like, you know, I can the smallest room.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Everybody congregated, right.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's funny because Susan and I were in the master
and that's where everyone and Teresa came and wanted to
do yoga, and they threw her out April on our
shape rooms. They get out of here, get out of here,
go to room.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Do you know in that big room, one of the
big rooms, there was a sign that says we are
sleep at nine. Don't disturb, And I'm like, can I
go and rip it off?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
She should have been in our room, Kathy, are your roommates?
Were they the ones you gravitated to?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
For you were close to somebody in another room at all?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
You know what, It's interesting because I I prayed a
lot with everybody. Everybody. I had a prayer and I
have on my nice stand, I had Jeremiah twenty nine
for I have the plan but to prosper you, not
to harm you, but to bring you hope for the future.
So if somebody was having some problems with another lady,
(23:17):
Jerry prayed with me. Okay, come on, well, funny.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You should mention that. Because it seemed that the women
were getting frustrated with Nicole and her makeup sessions in
the pool.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well that's some of them were, but it was Nicole
is passionate.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Nicole is very passionate, passionate and beautiful, and so she's
a little more open than maybe some of us are
or for that's how.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I'm not afraid to go up to them.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, no, she's I mean that girl had her octopus
arms though. I was like, I have to say, those
arms wrapped around him. And when Cindy ever said she's Nicole,
she's climbing the tree, I died, could I could laughing?
But I just thought Nicole seemed good for her. But
(24:08):
I mean, I just wondered, because in our I'd be
lying if I didn't say. We had a couple of
women who were very territorial. Shall I say, that's a
good word, territorial, and it cost it caused a little friction.
So I just wonder, if you know, how were you feeling,
(24:29):
because clearly you're a peacemaker, You're you're stummach me. Yeah, well,
good justice, you're a woman of justice. There you go,
But how how did that feel?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
It didn't bother me, didn't Honestly, it really wasn't like Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You don't want to get your lips on that. Come on, I.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Did get my lips on it, Cathy, So thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Excuse me, excuse me.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
He's a great kisser.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Saw one of the first couple of kisses because I
had that in my notes like a kiss. It was like,
come on, now, give me something here.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
No, I mean I kissed him. I kissed him. I
kissed him. Did I kiss him that night? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh? Yes, yet that I saw that.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yes, I'm not ladies, I'm not dead. Did you get
the butterflies then? Did you feel special?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oh? I felt like Cinderella. Yes, and I still feel
like Cinderella. And I will share with you, ladies. And
you can take this the way you want it. And
he has big hands, so you can take that anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You can't enough said, can we talk about the outdoor
rose ceremony?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
That was cool?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
That was the first night? Like how long that night goes?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Right? Oh, you mean the first first night when I
GotY first night. But you know what, you aren't such
a high. I know we had this question here. This
says how is your endurance? I used to work three
jobs and I worked the night shift day shift, so
I had two jobs in the morning during the day,
twenty four hours I worked. So for me to be
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like that or nothing good, it was nothing and I
was on a high. I'm gonna mansion. Wait.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I want to know when you worried about obviously you
got the first impression rose, But on the second ceremony,
how were you feeling?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
No? You know why because I did my little Jeremy
my prayer and I want to say the second ceremony,
I think he came out in a burgundy suit, if
I remember correctly. And when I saw that burgundy suit,
because I looked up and I said, come on, David,
I'm getting nervous. And when he came out in a
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burgundy suit that was my husband's school, Morehouse College, I said,
I got a road. I'm not even thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, yes, you did have a rose, and you didn't
need to think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
You just knew you were getting it.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Wow, I knew.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Because of what I asked for and I saw and
I'm pretty sure it was that burgundy suit he wore,
and I just knew what.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Now, the first rows it got you.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
The second you strike me as a very confident and
know who you are kind of woman, which I personally
love because I want women our age to feel that way.
And the more of us out there that are espousing this,
the better I like it.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I hope, and I hope they see that about me.
Now take all this X to interior, you know me,
but late, I just want them to know they can
do this. They can do this. Is it hard in
the beginning, yes, yes, but take it one second at
a time, one minute out of a time, one hour
at a time, and just go and have fun. That's
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what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So I have to ask you when we saw two
rose ceremonies, so we're you surprised at the second row ceremony?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Who had to leave?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Or did?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
You don't know if I was surprised, I was just
sad because I had formed a bond.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yes, yeah, we hate it saying goodbye to Kathy.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Right, it's wrenching. It's wrenching. And but you know I
never sat around and said when who's gone home today?
Who's gone home today? I just never. It must have
been the maker of the prosecco. I don't know. I
just never.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
But we all had to be prepared to leave.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Well, we had to, and I yes, you have to be, Yes,
you have to be.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
But I didn't, you know, because it's almost like we
were competing, but we're really not competing because we're all
in fa other's cheerleader.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well that's actually a question I was. I wanted to
ask you, Jerry, did you feel people used to ask
us this. Did you feel like you were in a
competition or an adventure to find love? Or are they
the same thing?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I mean, a competition with the other ladies.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, sorry, yes, I mean there was a.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Little competitive there. There was this a little bit. I mean,
you always got the ones who always ran up to.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Him first, pushing their way out the door of the Yeah,
knocking me down?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Is it always Nicole?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
We love her? But you know it's okay because if
you're confident in yourself, he'll see me well.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
And also, don't you think we're only in the first episode.
But I and I certainly don't know how it ends.
But I from our season, even though Gary and Teresa
didn't make it, I think the process itself works. Do
you Oh? I do?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, absolutely I do. I mean people say and you
get your people who say, oh, you can't find love
in that time. You know, you get those people. There's
always going to be someone saying something. But see, my
husband walked down the the hospital going to see a
sick patient. I saw him and was like, oh my god,
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I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Marry that man.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That's what Cathy says.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Jerry, I met my husband the first night of college
at a fraternity party, looked at him across the room
and looked at my sweet man, said you see that
guy over there, because I said I'm going to marry him,
and eighteen months later I did. I got it. Yeah,
I believe in chemistry. I mean you said it. You
used the word chemistry. Chemistry is a real thing.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
And right, so no matter who's pushing through you, no
matter who's doing he'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
At one point looking around, going I think, I see
these two look at each other, or I see you
never felt like that you were just good with everything.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I really was. I mean I could tell that, and
I mean I could tell there was he had an attraction.
I could see that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Okay, you noticed that, Yes you can. How could you not?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Right, I mean, you can't have an equal attraction. But
I wish people this is my plug for mel and
with the same for Gary, that it's almost an untenable situation.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I would love to
be having twenty five, twenty three men whatever fawning over me.
Let's be clear, but I think it's got to be
(31:21):
so difficult for them, and I think when they handle
when when mel not only you know, he was coming
and digging out. Frankly, he had to come and dig
out and he did.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
A great job and start at super.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
So I you know, I give these guys great credit
and I give the women great credit because I'm a
big believer in women supporting women and to that end,
to that end, we've been bulleting you with questions, An,
you got anything before before we before we head out
of this great interview, do you have anything you want
to know about us? Questions? I do?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I mean, what is life after the bast What is
life life? For you all? What is life like?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's still just as great as when you're on the show.
Because for me, I love myself from being on that show.
I'm okay with who I am, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like I was like, you.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Were like that before you even went on the show, though, Susan,
you were like.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
So I always was me and Kathy I can say
for both of us, so I'm sure unapologetically authentically us I.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Am who I am.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
But after being on that show, it gave me more confidence,
if you will, I was okay with somebody else being
happier than I got to be, you know, and happy
for them.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
For me, I knew pretty quickly that Gary. By the way,
this is hard Jerry Gary. I'm trying to keep the
name straight here. Just I know Erry I was pretty
clary times.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We call him that guy.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, that that Gary and I were not going to
be a nice guy, but not my right. But but
I will tell you the big for me being on
that show was a gift my husband. I'm sure you
know my husband died by suicide and so for me,
so for me, it helped bring me back to life
and give me help me find that joy again. But
(33:13):
the biggest takeaway for me from being on the show,
and I still feel it to this day, is when
somebody says to me, Kathy, listening to you, I now
I feel like I have a purpose. I want to
live my life. I want to that. I am so
grateful that this experience means something to other people that
(33:35):
they can find joy. They can say, you know what,
if she can do it, I can do it. So
to be that little, maybe little example for someone to
feel better about themselves, that is everything to.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Me right right now. That's spot on. That's how exactly
how I feel. I can heal you, I can bring
you back to life, but your soul and just to
make you feel good about yourself. That's something that's within.
And now I'm her.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Comfort zone, going on to something. I mean, you're on
national TV. That's not in your everyday comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (34:11):
No, no, but I want to help. I'm whoever it is,
whoever's whoever knows me. I'm a I'm a giver. That's
my love language. I'm a giver. I do it like
blinking my eyes. It's like blinking my eyes. It's so natural.
And I'll feed you. I don't eat, but I feed people.
And they say that all the time.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
But what about as far as people I do, I
feed them.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
They'll tell you that she never eats. But as far
as like the publicity all that, Like, I don't have
to be the center of attraction that you will be.
You will.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
People will recognize you, and it's always warm and loving
and you've given us hope, like there's you're never too
old to live. It's not over in your sixties. It's
just beginning, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
And that share that message and people just will love you.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yes, I said We're strong, sassy, and sexy. That's us.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I think that's a great place to end it. Thank
God says it all.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
When you come to Rockville, I want you guys to
look me up please.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Well, we'll share each other's numbers afterwards.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
It was so much fun and we want to thank you.
You're such a wonderful guest.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Jerry.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
We're so happy that you're in our lives now.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Welcome to the Oh, yes you are. You know, if
I had known you sooner, I would invite you to
the wedding on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I'm telling you I could have officiated the wedding now
you tell me.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, Now, I knew she'd get that in. But but Jerry,
really and it's been a delight getting to know you better.
And we also want to take all of our listeners.
Be sure to tune in follow Bachelor Happy Hour. We
have new episodes coming out every week that you don't
want to miss.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
And make sure you keep submitting this those questions because
that's what we love to talk about. You can go
to bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour, or you can
dm us on Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app,
or wherever you listen to podcasts. Until next time, have
a great week.
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Kathy
and I are so excited to be joining you again today.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
So excited to be back today, though we have such
a special guest. Please welcome from this season of the
Golden Bachelor. Jerry's here. Hi, Jerry, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Jerry?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Excited? I am great, I am doing so good, so good.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
We are so excited to have you here. You're our
very first guest from the very first second Golden Bachelor.
A lot of first there.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Yet, Jerry.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
There's so much we want to dive into today. We've
got to get started. We have a zillion questions, but
we want to know about you.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Okay, what about me? What about Cherry Flowers? Cherry Flowers
an amazing mom, Jerry Flowers, a CEO owner of a
home care agency, Jerry Flowers who is looking for love.
Jerry Flowers, who was given one hundred and fifty percent
to people. You name it. If they say, if they
(01:17):
said my name, she's a giver, she's a listener, she's amazing.
I mean, wow, they would say.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That you were so amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
So Jerry, tell us what we're going to get into
all that? You know, we wanted how you got on
the show. We want to know, but what was dating
like before? Before you went on the show? What was
dating like for you? Kind of like my dating life
A big good.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
We all have similarities, don't we.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Well, I will tell you. When I first got interviewed
for the show, said to me, first of all, this
is not your real aid. Second of all, what's the
matter with the men in Rockville? And I said, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Did you say how much time do you have? Because
I'll explain it to you right.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Had you ever watched the show before?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
I have? My mother loved the show. My mother loved
the show, and the person who signed me up for
Gay Melnick loves both of you, loves sending hugs and
loves loves you. But you know dating was not on
my radar. It was, and I'll be transparent about that.
I mean, dating is a type of thing where you
have to go out and invest and do it and
work on it. My investment was my children, who you know,
(02:27):
you know my story. My husband died at forty seven
and left me with a fourteen year old, eight year
old and four year old, and I'm like, what am
I supposed to do with these children who I adore.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, so wait, I have to I have to jump ahead.
I mean, we're going to talk about you know, the
first repressure is all that, but a widow at forty
seven and raising kids. And when you sat and talked
with mel like that really resonated with him that you
(02:57):
said it. You said it had been eighteen years and
now it was your time talking to us a little
bit about that, because.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
I mean, forty seven years old, you know, he's here today,
gone tomorrow. Had no like, what am I doing with
my life? We're supposed to retire, We're supposed to talk
with our children. Is supposed to do for college? What
am I supposed to do with these children? And I'm
saying I never said why me? Never said that because
my philosophy was why not me? Why not me? Because
(03:28):
I had recently, not recently, like maybe eighteen years, fourteen
years prior to that, I had lost my son at
fourteen years old, So I had lost a son as well.
So I was like, Okay, I've got to get up
and do this.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I did it.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But dating was not on my radar because these little
people needed me, they were really I was too busy.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So I was you. I mean, you are raising kids
is a it's a serious endeavor. I mean, any of
us who do it, we know right. All shared that
in comment What did your kids say when you decided
to come on the show.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
They were so elated, they were so happy. They were like, Mom,
you have given us so much. It is your time.
You know. It was really symbolic. My son David said
to me one dawn, never forget, He said, Mom, you
never laugh. Why don't you laugh? I was like wow.
(04:29):
And then when I got ready to go on the show,
he said, Mom, I was laughing.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
How old are your kids, Jerry? How old are your children? Now?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
I have a thirty two year old who just blessed
me who's getting married fiance. She has a fiance, Mike,
Oh yeah, who blessed me with this amazing little boy
three months old now, Michael David Alexander. He is was
born juneteenth. Okay. Then I have my doctor Flowers, Amber Flowers,
(05:01):
who is getting married to her doctor Miles Simms on Saturday.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh boy, you're a busy lady.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Oh you can't even imagine. I won't even tell you
where I parked my car for this. I don't even
know where my car is when I go out, don't
know where it's at.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
And when you shared it's your time, it's both of
your times.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
When you said that to Mel.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Because it was. And then I had David. David, who, ladies,
there's nothing worse for your son at four years old
to run downstairs and I say, I have a surprise
for you, and he said, Mommy, Daddy's coming home. Oh god.
I said, no, sweetheart, Daddy's not coming home. But I
have something else for you. But no, and those and
(05:45):
my children. So we have the thirty one year old,
the twenty seven year old, and then we have David
twenty two.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Wow. Wow, that's that's that's a lot. But you know what,
you have the energy. I mean that to me. Obviously
we we we were on that show and we had
those poignant moments with our Gary. But I found it
(06:12):
so interesting that you were able to open up so
easily about your time and that you had raised your kids.
And Mel was so open in this first episode about
him raising his children. And I love that it just
you and you said, I really feel like I have
(06:32):
a strong connection with him. Talk about that.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
I did, because it was so I don't talk about
it much, Kathy, I really don't. I don't go around
saying I worked for a job for a year and
a half. I didn't even know my husband had passed.
I don't go around talking about it. So for some
reason with him, that twinkle in his eye, that sincerity,
I just opened up. I just opened up.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Did you feel better? Did you feel good?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I felt so much better, Susan. You know, I don't
want to say it's a burden. It's not a burden,
because it's been a blessing and a gift. But it's
so nice to talk about it and talk about it
to the point that I've done what I needed to do.
I've given them the foundation, and now I can be
I don't want to use the word selfish, but now
I can be selfish. You can and do something with Jared.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's about you now.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It's really about me. It's really about me, and I
say that sincerely. It's really about me.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I'm very curious how you balance. You are CEO of
a home health care and you have kids and your
planning weddings. How are you Before we even get into
night one, which we're about to get into, I want
to know how I'm a mother of three and I
have two grandchildren, So how do you balance all of that?
Speaker 4 (07:54):
You know? I just first of all, I pray, ladies.
I'm going to just be very transparent about that. I
pray first, and God give me the strain because I
get tired. I get tired, but I just keep going.
I just keep going, and I just say, why not me?
First of all, I have life. I mean one thing
about this show. Everybody's going to finally know my age.
(08:15):
My children never knew my age. My children didn't know
my age. And I have a big birthday and I'm
gonna be sixty five.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
And you know what, congratulas, freaking proud of you.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I am right, you are damn Do you need medicare?
Do you need medicare? Advice that can help you out? Jared?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
You know what, I have been putting that off for
a month. ARP trash, trash, I can't do this, but
you know what, You're just how welcome it?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Just welcome it. It's all good.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know it's coming for you, whether you're ready or not.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
What did you do, if anything special, to prepare for
this journey, Like, what were your thoughts going into it?
Getting on the airplane and thinking, wow, what am I
about to do?
Speaker 4 (09:04):
You know, I only told very few people, like I
have a few friends of mine. They're still mad at me.
I didn't tell them. I don't. But I only told
very few, my small circle and my prayer partner and
my children, and of course I had to tell my
hair dress because I hadn't do my.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Hair, so that was that's a must, That's a must.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
But I told very little and I just prayed on it,
and I just said the biggest thing for me if
my grandson would have been born July ninth, I wasn't coming,
but he was born juneteenth, and I said, I'm going ready.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
That was okay. So let you know, we've all been there.
We've all been in that limo. Talk to us about
night one. You know how I know how I felt.
I was. I thought I was going to trip walking
across that dropperty, how did you feel getting out of
the limo?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
I was like, what am I doing? Don't forget I
had the cap on, so I'm like, please don't let
the cap go to the side. I'll be on TV.
My steff Is scope is going to choke me as.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
I'm getting we heard you we heard. The world heard
you say you were going to take care of all
of his needs. We all heard it.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, well I did, and I'm and I like that.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You want you, like to be his dessert after a
long day's work, and now he was hungry.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I hope he was.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
I hope when you actually laid eyes on him, Like,
what did you feel?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
My?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
He was so he's handsome. To the point that I'm
telling you, ladies, I felt butterflies. Who feels butterflies at
sixty four years old?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
We all want to that's that's that's what we're looking for.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And ladies, I want to tell you, and I won't
tell you else what was tingling else? Also too, I
won't I won't tell you because I'm like, wait a minute,
wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
It was the word I'm alive.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
So were you nervous? Get now, obviously you know your
your your body parts were talking to you, But were
you nervously talking.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
To My only thing was that Heck, that was the
only thing that was making me nervously. I didn't want
it to fall. Yeah, I didn't want that hack.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, how about when I saw the other women, like
the women are gorgeous, The women were beautiful, the women
were just.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
But it's one of those things. And this is true.
We are all fearfully and beautifully made, So don't compare yourself.
There's a reason why you are here, and you're unique,
and if you can hold on to that, because it's
a lot. The women are beautiful, they all are. They
look great, you know. I when I came back, I
got a personal trainer, you know, because but but you
(11:43):
are who you are and that's what I want the
ladies to understand out there, And you are who you are.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yeah. Well, and I think that is a great message.
Our message has always been you know, this is our chapter.
This is your next chapter of your life, and you know,
we all want to make it the best chapter. And
I think all of the women, I think we share
that coming into this environment that so few women get
to experience, that we are special and we should feel
(12:15):
special about ourselves. And you clearly get it now.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Oh yeah, and my daughter, my doctor Flower, says to
me all the time, Mom, this is your chapter. Now,
this is your turn. You're living what people did in
their twenties because you were raising a sick child. You're
doing in your sixties. And how fun is that and
how much wisdom now that you.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Have, right well, and that's what makes it so much
better because you've had your life, your experiences, and now
again it's time for you and to be able to
do something like this.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Do you think do you think it's harder or easier
at this age to date with all the things you
have in your life.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
It might be easier just because you're a little more pickier.
You know what I'm saying. You're not falling for the lines? Yeah? Really? Right? Okay,
come on, now, you know what I'm saying, Like really,
you know you can see through that. I don't want
to say it the bs.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, okay, so and so you clearly are. I love
you because you're direct like I am. And I love
that you say what you mean, You mean what you say.
How shocked were you when you I wasn't. How shocked
were you when you got the first impression? Bross?
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Are you kidding me? I was floored at first. I
was out of my mind. I was like I couldn't
even say I'm sure that that's what came across. I'm like,
what did he just call my name? Really? Did I really? My? My?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
My?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Both my girls were when they got engaged. It was
a surprise. I know how they felt.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
With that felt like this because I was surprise.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I had no idea.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Listen, Jerry, you clearly are someone who is who they
say they are. And I think I think everyone sees
that about you in this first episode. Really, I think so.
I mean I I was not at all surprised that,
and the lady.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Said that all the ladies, even though they clearly knew
what it meant. When I saw the rose, you know me,
you know, I was happy drinking my prosecco. I was
happy to have lamark. I was a happy even though
the good time.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I look good, I feel good.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'm not taking care of anybody.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Jerry. I beat a track to the bar. I had
like a little golden pathway to the bar.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
I know, why does a bartender know my name? But
it was just a lot. But I was happy. I
was happy. So when the rose came, I was like down.
When it was on the table on the plate, I said, oh,
that's a pretty rose. Let me go get some more
of lamarca. And that's how I I just didn't. I
(15:01):
had no idea I had.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's a nice surprise, but I feel like you're the
girl who you're the woman who just is who you are.
You come out as yourself. And I think Mel really
appreciated that because I want to know what you think.
You know what you went through, right, you had all
the girls. What do you think he was going through
that first night? What do you think? Well?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
I was just getting ready to say that. First of all,
he had to face all us beautiful women when you
walked into that that that living room, and you could
tell he was like, oh you know what I mean, Like.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I mean, can you ask? And can you imagine? I
think I hope everybody when they watched this first episode
gives this guy some grace. I know you all did,
because how many times personally I can speak, have said
stupid things off the cuff. And I think when he
saw you women, I think it was a you know,
(16:08):
a slap, not literally, but a slap in the face.
Well he got a puppet slap, but you know what
I mean, I think it was I think he really
thought Wow. I think do you agree? Oh?
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I agree one hundred, one hundred and fifty percent. Yeah,
I agree, because I sat there, I saw them, I
saw and you know what I saw more than anything.
I saw their hearts. I saw their hearts. I mean
I was like the person they came to to pray
for every day, whatever they were playing, I was praying
for them whatever. And they all really accepted his apology.
(16:43):
I felt that very sincerely.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You know, even I did one of them. I did
it because I was one to judge. I didn't like
what he had to say. I was like, okay, hearing
him and being humble and really was grateful for the
in this that you women gave.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Him, and I love to start over, for this.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Journey that he wanted to go on. I really took
a different.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Who's perfect. The only man I know that's perfect is
the man upstairs.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
We all open our mouths and insert foot from time
to time.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I do it a lot.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I also you all when he apologized, and I thought
his his reaction was real. I mean, I don't think
there's anything put on about that, and I think a
lot of people. You guys, I mean, did you feel
like this is not going to go well until you
(17:42):
saw him. I just wonder how you felt up coming
up to it, because we're I mean, yeah, I'm talking
about what he had said. Were you like this guy's
really gonna have to prove it to me, because I
love a man who will say I need to earn
it back, and I about him.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
I think so. And I'm telling you I heard the
comment and I'm like, what's up with that? And then
you know, you know the rumors they're getting rid of them,
they have a new one whatever, And I was just like,
you know what I'm going, and I'm going because some
people said, oh, you shouldn't go. Why are you going?
(18:21):
They were just talking. They didn't know what was going on.
They didn't even know I was going to be on
the show. I didn't know, and I was like, come on, guys,
let's give him some I'm when I say, even when
we were interviewing the first night, they said to me that,
I said, you know what, I hear what you all
are saying. I accept his apology, and don't ask me
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I just don't.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I don't want to hear it behind me. It's behind
me very sincere very.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
And that's okay, let's start this over.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay. So, so, so we're we're all in a love melfest.
Now I haven't met him yet, but I'm looking forward.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
You haven't met mew.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
No, I'm looking forward to it, but I want to
know uh that I have to tell you I went
into paralysis over the cheerleading. I was the cheerleader. Uh
but the fact that you all learned those cheers that
cheer so quickly. Tell me about that. What was that
like for you doing and seeing Paula? What?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
First of all? First of all, just well back up.
We were listening to her song the Oh my God.
So we were all excited. I'm team Paula. I'm team
So we get out there and when they we thought
we're going to play flag football. You know, us women
were we like to take control. We kind of know
what's going to go on. We all we know that
and we had no idea. So when she came out,
(19:42):
it was like, oh my goodness, and you want us
to do what now?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Wait? Well wait, Jerry, you all, I'm assuming you came
to the stadium in your cheer outfits? Yes, no, oh
put them on? Okay?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I asked Kathy with the costumes and we had to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I you remember he came.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
We came an athletic where okay, and we're just like, okay,
we're gonna have to play flag.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
That makes sense. Okay, that makes total sense because and
that's and every.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Every one of us said that. Everyone said the flag football,
We're gonna do some type of drill or he's gonna
make us exhaust. You know, we all.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
You know, who can throw the longest pass kind of thing?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Ye, who can throw the longest who can catch them?
Speaker 2 (20:23):
We all?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And when he.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Impressed, I will say, he looked it was it's both
of you.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Both teams did a great job. I mean you really did.
You know.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
We had a few that were like, okay, Jerry, be serious,
now come on, Cherry, leave me alone. But you know,
but some are very serious. And I and I was.
I was good because I was a dancer a little bit.
And look my daughter did cheer was.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
There were a lot of dancer. I mean there's you,
there's uh, Cindy's a dancer. There's a couple of other
dancers there was.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
They were phenomenal. They were. But you know what was
good about they all help us. They helped us.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Okay, that's what women do, left, Jerry, that's what women.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
At this point in time.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Is your heart getting like are you into him?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Are you watching it?
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Into him?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Okay, A lot of them were already into him. Okay,
I was getting there, I.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Was getting so So who were your friends? I want
to know because on our season there, as you just
pointed out, there were some women in our season that
were more into Gary in the beginning than others of us.
So who did you gravitate to? Who are your friends?
And how did that work with the positioning, if you will?
(21:48):
With mel well with.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Us, we had the smallest room, but we had the
best room. We had Carol Carol who is my ace,
Carol Carroll Carroll, And we had Cindy who was in
our room. So she used to come over and like,
this is your room, get out, So she said, would
come over, get out, Cidy. And then we had Amy
(22:10):
and then Robin.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Those are great women, and then we had.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
The other ones that came in. We were like the
party room to the to the point the handlers used
to say, are you guys, okay, what are you doing here?
And we're like, you know, I can the smallest room.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Everybody congregated, right.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
That's funny because Susan and I were in the master
and that's where everyone and Teresa came and wanted to
do yoga, and they threw her out April on our
shape rooms. They get out of here, get out of here,
go to room.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Do you know in that big room, one of the
big rooms, there was a sign that says we are
sleep at nine. Don't disturb, And I'm like, can I
go and rip it off?
Speaker 2 (22:48):
She should have been in our room, Kathy, are your roommates?
Were they the ones you gravitated to?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
For you were close to somebody in another room at all?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
You know what, It's interesting because I I prayed a
lot with everybody. Everybody. I had a prayer and I
have on my nice stand, I had Jeremiah twenty nine
for I have the plan but to prosper you, not
to harm you, but to bring you hope for the future.
So if somebody was having some problems with another lady,
(23:17):
Jerry prayed with me. Okay, come on, well, funny.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You should mention that. Because it seemed that the women
were getting frustrated with Nicole and her makeup sessions in
the pool.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Well that's some of them were, but it was Nicole
is passionate.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Nicole is very passionate, passionate and beautiful, and so she's
a little more open than maybe some of us are
or for that's how.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
I'm not afraid to go up to them.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, no, she's I mean that girl had her octopus
arms though. I was like, I have to say, those
arms wrapped around him. And when Cindy ever said she's Nicole,
she's climbing the tree, I died, could I could laughing?
But I just thought Nicole seemed good for her. But
(24:08):
I mean, I just wondered, because in our I'd be
lying if I didn't say. We had a couple of
women who were very territorial. Shall I say, that's a
good word, territorial, and it cost it caused a little friction.
So I just wonder, if you know, how were you feeling,
(24:29):
because clearly you're a peacemaker, You're you're stummach me. Yeah, well,
good justice, you're a woman of justice. There you go,
But how how did that feel?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
It didn't bother me, didn't Honestly, it really wasn't like Joe.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You don't want to get your lips on that. Come on, I.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Did get my lips on it, Cathy, So thank you
very much.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Excuse me, excuse me.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
He's a great kisser.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Saw one of the first couple of kisses because I
had that in my notes like a kiss. It was like,
come on, now, give me something here.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
No, I mean I kissed him. I kissed him. I
kissed him. Did I kiss him that night? Maybe?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Oh? Yes, yet that I saw that.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yes, I'm not ladies, I'm not dead. Did you get
the butterflies then? Did you feel special?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oh? I felt like Cinderella. Yes, and I still feel
like Cinderella. And I will share with you, ladies. And
you can take this the way you want it. And
he has big hands, so you can take that anyway.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You can't enough said, can we talk about the outdoor
rose ceremony?
Speaker 3 (25:44):
That was cool?
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
That was the first night? Like how long that night goes?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Right? Oh, you mean the first first night when I
GotY first night. But you know what, you aren't such
a high. I know we had this question here. This
says how is your endurance? I used to work three
jobs and I worked the night shift day shift, so
I had two jobs in the morning during the day,
twenty four hours I worked. So for me to be
(26:12):
like that or nothing good, it was nothing and I
was on a high. I'm gonna mansion. Wait.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I want to know when you worried about obviously you
got the first impression rose, But on the second ceremony,
how were you feeling?
Speaker 4 (26:27):
No? You know why because I did my little Jeremy
my prayer and I want to say the second ceremony,
I think he came out in a burgundy suit, if
I remember correctly. And when I saw that burgundy suit,
because I looked up and I said, come on, David,
I'm getting nervous. And when he came out in a
(26:47):
burgundy suit that was my husband's school, Morehouse College, I said,
I got a road. I'm not even thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Well, yes, you did have a rose, and you didn't
need to think about it.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
You just knew you were getting it.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I knew it.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Wow, I knew.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Because of what I asked for and I saw and
I'm pretty sure it was that burgundy suit he wore,
and I just knew what.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Now, the first rows it got you.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
The second you strike me as a very confident and
know who you are kind of woman, which I personally
love because I want women our age to feel that way.
And the more of us out there that are espousing this,
the better I like it.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I hope, and I hope they see that about me.
Now take all this X to interior, you know me,
but late, I just want them to know they can
do this. They can do this. Is it hard in
the beginning, yes, yes, but take it one second at
a time, one minute out of a time, one hour
at a time, and just go and have fun. That's
(27:53):
what it's all about.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
So I have to ask you when we saw two
rose ceremonies, so we're you surprised at the second row ceremony?
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Who had to leave?
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Or did?
Speaker 4 (28:06):
You don't know if I was surprised, I was just
sad because I had formed a bond.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Yes, yeah, we hate it saying goodbye to Kathy.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Right, it's wrenching. It's wrenching. And but you know I
never sat around and said when who's gone home today?
Who's gone home today? I just never. It must have
been the maker of the prosecco. I don't know. I
just never.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
But we all had to be prepared to leave.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Well, we had to, and I yes, you have to be, Yes,
you have to be.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
But I didn't, you know, because it's almost like we
were competing, but we're really not competing because we're all
in fa other's cheerleader.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Well that's actually a question I was. I wanted to
ask you, Jerry, did you feel people used to ask
us this. Did you feel like you were in a
competition or an adventure to find love? Or are they
the same thing?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
I mean, a competition with the other ladies.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, sorry, yes, I mean there was a.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Little competitive there. There was this a little bit. I mean,
you always got the ones who always ran up to.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Him first, pushing their way out the door of the Yeah,
knocking me down?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Is it always Nicole?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
We love her? But you know it's okay because if
you're confident in yourself, he'll see me well.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
And also, don't you think we're only in the first episode.
But I and I certainly don't know how it ends.
But I from our season, even though Gary and Teresa
didn't make it, I think the process itself works. Do
you Oh? I do?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
Yeah, absolutely I do. I mean people say and you
get your people who say, oh, you can't find love
in that time. You know, you get those people. There's
always going to be someone saying something. But see, my
husband walked down the the hospital going to see a
sick patient. I saw him and was like, oh my god,
(30:06):
I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Marry that man.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
That's what Cathy says.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Jerry, I met my husband the first night of college
at a fraternity party, looked at him across the room
and looked at my sweet man, said you see that
guy over there, because I said I'm going to marry him,
and eighteen months later I did. I got it. Yeah,
I believe in chemistry. I mean you said it. You
used the word chemistry. Chemistry is a real thing.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
And right, so no matter who's pushing through you, no
matter who's doing he'll see you there.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
At one point looking around, going I think, I see
these two look at each other, or I see you
never felt like that you were just good with everything.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
I really was. I mean I could tell that, and
I mean I could tell there was he had an attraction.
I could see that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Okay, you noticed that, Yes you can. How could you not?
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Right, I mean, you can't have an equal attraction. But
I wish people this is my plug for mel and
with the same for Gary, that it's almost an untenable situation.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I would love to
be having twenty five, twenty three men whatever fawning over me.
Let's be clear, but I think it's got to be
(31:21):
so difficult for them, and I think when they handle
when when mel not only you know, he was coming
and digging out. Frankly, he had to come and dig
out and he did.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
A great job and start at super.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
So I you know, I give these guys great credit
and I give the women great credit because I'm a
big believer in women supporting women and to that end,
to that end, we've been bulleting you with questions, An,
you got anything before before we before we head out
of this great interview, do you have anything you want
to know about us? Questions? I do?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I mean, what is life after the bast What is
life life? For you all? What is life like?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's still just as great as when you're on the show.
Because for me, I love myself from being on that show.
I'm okay with who I am, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Like I was like, you.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Were like that before you even went on the show, though, Susan,
you were like.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
So I always was me and Kathy I can say
for both of us, so I'm sure unapologetically authentically us I.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Am who I am.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
But after being on that show, it gave me more confidence,
if you will, I was okay with somebody else being
happier than I got to be, you know, and happy
for them.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
For me, I knew pretty quickly that Gary. By the way,
this is hard Jerry Gary. I'm trying to keep the
name straight here. Just I know Erry I was pretty
clary times.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We call him that guy.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, that that Gary and I were not going to
be a nice guy, but not my right. But but
I will tell you the big for me being on
that show was a gift my husband. I'm sure you
know my husband died by suicide and so for me,
so for me, it helped bring me back to life
and give me help me find that joy again. But
(33:13):
the biggest takeaway for me from being on the show,
and I still feel it to this day, is when
somebody says to me, Kathy, listening to you, I now
I feel like I have a purpose. I want to
live my life. I want to that. I am so
grateful that this experience means something to other people that
(33:35):
they can find joy. They can say, you know what,
if she can do it, I can do it. So
to be that little, maybe little example for someone to
feel better about themselves, that is everything to.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Me right right now. That's spot on. That's how exactly
how I feel. I can heal you, I can bring
you back to life, but your soul and just to
make you feel good about yourself. That's something that's within.
And now I'm her.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Comfort zone, going on to something. I mean, you're on
national TV. That's not in your everyday comfort zone.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (34:11):
No, no, but I want to help. I'm whoever it is,
whoever's whoever knows me. I'm a I'm a giver. That's
my love language. I'm a giver. I do it like
blinking my eyes. It's like blinking my eyes. It's so natural.
And I'll feed you. I don't eat, but I feed people.
And they say that all the time.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
But what about as far as people I do, I
feed them.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
They'll tell you that she never eats. But as far
as like the publicity all that, Like, I don't have
to be the center of attraction that you will be.
You will.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
People will recognize you, and it's always warm and loving
and you've given us hope, like there's you're never too
old to live. It's not over in your sixties. It's
just beginning, you know.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
And that share that message and people just will love you.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Yes, I said We're strong, sassy, and sexy. That's us.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I think that's a great place to end it. Thank
God says it all.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
When you come to Rockville, I want you guys to
look me up please.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Well, we'll share each other's numbers afterwards.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
It was so much fun and we want to thank you.
You're such a wonderful guest.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Jerry.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
We're so happy that you're in our lives now.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Welcome to the Oh, yes you are. You know, if
I had known you sooner, I would invite you to
the wedding on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
I'm telling you I could have officiated the wedding now
you tell me.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Yeah, Now, I knew she'd get that in. But but Jerry,
really and it's been a delight getting to know you better.
And we also want to take all of our listeners.
Be sure to tune in follow Bachelor Happy Hour. We
have new episodes coming out every week that you don't
want to miss.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
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Speaker 2 (36:10):
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