September 29, 2025 • 41 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan dig their teeth into the premiere episode of “The Golden Bachelor.” The veterans of the historic first season are not holding back as they dive into the women, Mel, and the season to come. We also get their unfiltered thoughts on the cast. From possible wrong reasons to Golden representation, Kathy and Susan are unapologetically sharing their true feelings. Then, we dive into Mel; do Kathy and Susan think he’s hot? And, of course, they share who they think will make it through and who might be at risk of leaving without love. Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us today. We are so excited to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Indeed we are, and today we're getting into the premiere
of The Golden Batcheler Kathy, Where do we even begin?
Oh my gosh, I have so much going on in
my head.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I honestly, Susan. First of all, we have to say women, women,
Let's talk about the world. Let's start with that, or
we can start with mel Where do you want to start?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh? I don't know. Let's the women, Okay? To me,
it feels so different than our women. How if it was.
They all have long hair, they look younger or act younger.
I don't. I can't pin for okay.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So my thought is, first of all, some hairdresser is
making millions off of them because they all have hair extent.
I'm sorry, all of them. They all had lots of luscious, long,
curly hair. Here's my thing about the women, and we're
not giving anything away here because they showed it in
(01:12):
the in the preview for next week. You and I
have met some of these women and they're lovely. Having
said that, to me, they don't seem or act golden.
Many of them are younger than the than our crowd was.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But a couple of years shouldn't make that much.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, but here's the thing. Many of these women this
you know, I've given this some thought. Many of these
women have careers, they own businesses. Yeah, so I think
many of them are looking for mel. Some of them
aren't looking for Mel, but they're looking for exposure. They're
looking to you know, up their game in the social
media world. I'm not blaming. I'm not saying it's a
(01:52):
bad thing. I'm saying we all came.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
As innocence looking for love. Love love. That's the moral
of this whole. That is the story that is Bachelor
about finding love in the most unorthodox way, if you will.
I mean being on a show, all these women meeting
one man. It's about love.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But I see, I don't I disagree.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I think, oh, you're right with Not everybody's intentions are that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, not everybody's certified love. Some people are there. I
mean some of those people have you know, hundreds of
thousands of followers already. I mean, these these are not
newbies to the world. So having said that, I mean
watching women in the previews jumping into the pool with
their gowns on.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We don't do anything like that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, you know, I mean, I'm not sure I would
do it even now, but I want there's so many
things I want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Let's let's start with him. Can we start with him?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let's okay, go for it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So coming out watching his story and seeing him with
his children, and and knowing still in the back of
my mind is statement that was made on that podcast,
I didn't forget it. I had a little judgy thing
going on, if you will. But his his life, the apology,
(03:16):
he was sincere. He was so nervous about his stupid comment,
and I almost felt bad for him. In a way.
I did feel for him. I liked Telly seems so humble.
I liked hell he chatted with his boys, and he
seemed ready.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
See, I agree with some of what you're saying. Again,
I give a lot of grace to anyone who's the lead,
because we as the women, you know, we hang out
in the bedroom, We could talk, we could talk about
our feelings. This guy is, you know, Mel has no
one he's and men aren't as typically as and lets
(03:57):
we're talking about Gary crime. Men aren't typically as emotional,
and they don't. They don't let their feelings out. So
I think, you know, personally, he started behind the eight ball. Yes,
he gave a great apology. You know, I'm reading things
on the internet that you know, he was primed, he
was coached to say it. I don't know that that's true.
(04:19):
I think he said in the moment on a podcast.
You know, he didn't realize the world was listening, A
and B. He hadn't gotten into the show yet. And
if you and I think they're beautiful, fabulous looking women,
I think he was shocked.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well now you hear them now.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, And so I think when he says, I believe
him when he said he is going to have to
earn it back, and he and he's and he thinks
the women are lovely. I I'm I'm going with I
think he means it. You know, I got to say
this is I wish you would wear shoes instead of sneakers, Like, really,
you got sore, fhie. You know, come on, we have
(05:00):
to wear bras with metal straps on them for god sakes,
Come on, mouth and put on a real pair of shoe,
nipple covers and everything else.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Remember when they're they're trying to put the mics on you.
It's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, okay, so so on on giving him grace. I'm
going to cut him some slack. I think he's a
good looking man. I think he's going to be surprised
at this journey. So so that's what I have to
say about him. I think he's doing his best to
dig himself out of a hole, and I'm going to
give him some grace. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
The next thing, energy, Cathy about his energy. He's there,
he's in the moment. He still feels a little.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I was just gonna say energy. I think, well, listen,
this is you and me who you know, we're falling
all over each other with so much enterity. I mean,
he wouldn't know what to do with us. But I
think he just he's got it. It's gonna take some
time for him to warm up into what he's doing,
but I think he will the time he's ever done
this too. Yeah, okay, we have to jump in. The
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women are lovely. I've said it. I said it on
my social media. You know, my money is on s
My Moody's on my Austin girls. But but wait, I
love sending her eyes gorgeous, but I want to talk
about as a mom and as a woman of a
certain age, because for all those of you listening, you know,
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my daughter was not really excited initially about me doing
the show. Nicole in the pool with mel making out
with him, I'm sorry. I think I want to bring
I want to bring respect to women of our age.
I want the Bachelor Nation to say you can be
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of a certain age and still command respect and love.
Nicole's lovely, but I'm saying I think it's over the
top and not a good look.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And you heard her line, like, you know, I'm going
for it. I feel there's something between us. But I
love when Terry said, I don't act like out look
at her. She's jumping on what does she say? She's
she's climbing them like a tree.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That was Cindy. Cindy said, he's Cindy said, got that
girl's climbing on white, which you know, thank you, Cindy.
Love that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I I when he did say something to Nicole like,
you know, let's slow this, let's.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know, yeah, but you know, did he though?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I mean, he said inter making out of them all
And I've we saw Gary kiss somebody else in front of.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It, I know, but you couldn't like that. But did
you feel the tension? I mean I saw Cindy, Cindy
was talking with I think I think a little tear.
I just want to go back to one thing that
Mel said. He said, love is something you don't compete for.
It's Alexandra, sorry, not Mel. Alexandra said this. Love is
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something you don't compete for. It's a feeling. I'm sorry.
But again, as a woman who has been on this journey,
there is a competitive nature to this show.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yes, of course, and so a small window of time
that you get to spend with him, so you want
to make it the best that you can and make
him notice you.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, And and and to that, to that, we're all
noticing Nicole. I mean, she's lovely and pretty that I love.
Now the next thing I have to talk about because
I thought of you, Susan when I watched this, I thought, oh,
I've got to talk. We've got to do this on
the Byecaust. But would you rather gain? Would you rather?
But here's here's where I again, I want to I
(08:36):
am the hopeful romantic. Remember I called that you are
in love.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I want to be in love I was a hopeless
romantic until I came off the show.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Now, well we're both hopeful romantics. Okay, here I had
I'm telling you I rebounded three times again twice. Wait
a second, Cheryl and here are planning this game Carrol
and and and he reads them and he says loyalty
or passion, And of course I'm thinking, well, this is
an idiot game. Of course loyalty. They both say passion.
(09:07):
I'm like, if you don't have loyalty in your relationship,
I'm sorry. Out the door. The next one was a
mountain or ocean, and you know, whenever they said the beach. Okay,
early rids or whatever, fine, early resident care, but then
touch or emotional connection. And I'm like, oh, well, we
(09:31):
both want both. But if you don't have an what
are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But if to have a of course, yes, but that's
really dissecting. It was just a quick little you know.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh no, see you know, no, I want the man.
Let's be clear, who is going to I would have
an emotional connection with him. There's going to be physical touch,
and by god, he better be loyal. So I was like, mel,
you and I have to have a talk here because
I didn't like that when he said passion, no bother you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Because I need to be touched. I like physical touch.
So I got it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Great. Let me just say for all you people out there,
I'm going to call Frederic and I'm going to say, hey, listen,
she doesn't care if you're loyal, she just wants.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
To touch her. That's not true. You're not excusing one. Okay,
yes it is.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You had to do like the four wood you ratther is,
pick one or the other. You don't get to picktooses
and pick one. So that I'm just gonna say that
bothered me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Something else that Mel said and I quote, age is
just the number. Spirit has no age. Yes, loved it. Yes,
that was well well said.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So when he when he said you know, love, happiness
and fun on his toast, like I said, I think
Mel's great. I think I mean, we all wanted to
find love. But I want these women. My thing is,
I want I want the Golden Patch or TV show
to be authentic with women who are golden and not
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parading around like teenage girls. I don't like that. I
have to be honest.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Anybody can parade around. I goofy a lot of times, Kathy,
it's not what I'm talking about. Well, Golden, what are
you talking about that.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm talking about? When they're you know, everyone's gone, he's
so hot, It's like, Oh, that's well, that's what I'm saying.
I want, I want our message to be different, and
so I'm hoping that we're going to get more of that.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
How about Peg. Let's talk about Peg. She sat down
and chatted with him. I love this woman, okay, and
her hair is real. It is so thick. I would
hate to be her hairdresser.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay, let me tell you what I think about Peg.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And I loved her conversation because she nailed it. She
asked very important questions. You're not retired, Well, how do
you spend time with people? I need somebody to spend
time with me. Like, I really loved her conversation, and.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So let's talk about that for a minute. I agree
with you. She's very real. First of all, I love
that she's a bomb squad, but she's a fire firefighter.
My son was a firefighter. So Peg, I love you
right there, love her to pieces.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
But hold on.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
When she said wait, when she said when the bomb
didn't find others, I felt so mad. But here's the
thing about Peg. Yes, she for me, is either gonna
go really far or not at all, or she is
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going to be out the door because and I'll tell
you why that woman has been around. She said it
herself in a firehouse with you know, and she said,
all these women chatty chatty chang. She is not used to,
you know, hair flipping? What cold her lipstick? Am I
gonna wear today? Kind of girls that She's get the
job done. And I love her for that. So I'm
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anxious to see what happens with her as but I'm
proud of her.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, women as firefighter love, you've had this same exact
thing said to you when people have said to me,
how come you can't find anybody? And I'm a lot,
We're a lot, we're big personalities. Either you fall for
us or you don't at all? Right, yea, oh friend,
I have a question.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I agree. I agree. But here's the question about Peg
and melt again as a woman who's looking for her partner.
When she said to Mel, you know I want you.
I'm looking for a man when you're going to retire,
he said never. Uh, And then I think if I'm
not if I'm I think I've got this right. She said,
(13:45):
what are you looking for? And he said, I've been
looking for you. So you already see the flirting going on.
But again, we are not twenty five or thirty. We're
not building careers. Apparently he is still working, So how
is that gonna work?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Dumb women? Eat that up. That is an important thing
to say. Like even though he was putting it out
there flirtatiously, some women think, oh my god, I've been
looking for you. He really does. He has a connection
with me. You when you're that into somebody, any little
thing they say, you're going to take it as oh,
(14:22):
it's it's me and him, it's me and him. Like
when him and Cindy had that talk and the three kisses,
you know, she kept going back.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Let me tell you that girl. I'm going to call
her in Austin. I'm gonna ask her to teach me
how to floor because man, she's got it down. Okay,
I want to. I will also want to talk about
Monica p.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I almost cried because I'm alone. And when she talked
and he that you could see that connection of eating
alone and I just.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And she felt maybe she said too much too soon.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So here is the difference again, as a woman of
a certain age, the thirty year olds, the twins, they
just throw it all out there. They don't care. We're
smart enough to sit back and say.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Look at the picture.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, should I have said that? Should I have none?
Am I gonna push it?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
What she did? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I don't know. I just I'm I'm amy.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
A little firecracker. She's just a giddy, little tiny thing.
God bless her.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I love her. She's gonna be entertained for sure. Okay,
now you know Kathy Soandra has a twin. We knew that,
I of you we knew that, but I thought when
they she had told us on our show she had
a twin. But here's the thing. If Sondra had more
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hair and a more upbeat style I got rid of
her glasses, they would look like the identical twins. They
are sorry that she went home the first night, but
we never really got a sense of her. So. But
the next thing I have to ask you about is
before we get into the specific Senate, what do you
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think about golden women who aren't totally golden? As cheerleader
on my show?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And I hate it on this show let's define golden.
Will you please to me the definition would mean age
of Social Security, which is sixty five, okay year olds?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And yeah me something I mean and then and and
let me tell you I was I want to talk
about the cheerleading. But well, bookmark that and come back
to Diane. Diane is seventy one.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I mean telling them I want to be I go
in and look at the picture, Diane.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's the sweet librarian. I believe from Arkansas. I'm not
sure where it's from, but you know, cute, little short haircut.
She did not have extensions. Oh the oh you know
what she's not though she's not. She's from Alaska, which
is even she's from Alaska. But here's the thing. That woman,
in my mind, is there for the right reason. In
my opinion, she's she's there, she's authentic, she's and I'm like, yes,
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we actually have a really wonderful golden woman. I'm not
sure there. Well, clearly she went home, which you know
was sad because I wanted to see a woman who's golden,
who's fit. I mean, gosh, that woman is fit.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I wanted to see where that would go. But I
just had a genuine liking of her. Well, she was
the one that said, what the puck? Yeah, she's a
hard player, I mean, and he was shocked by that.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And we talk about Debbie and that dimples and how
she pretty in her smile, and she's never been married married,
and I wonder if that, you know, some people think
that's a red flag. I know you and I have said, oh,
he's never been married, was and I will not.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I dated one man, Debbie, I love you and you're beautiful,
And I'm not sure this applies to women, but as
a woman, I dated one man who had never been married.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Ask me if I'll ever do it again? Really?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
What ever? Never red flag like that?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
People that never had kids because they don't know what
it's like to have children.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, but sometimes you can't have children. That's a choice.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
While I'm not being married, not having children, that's a
whole family unit, something you adjust, it's part of your life.
And they don't. They never to do it. So I think,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think. I mean, Debbie said she built a business,
she started as a fitness instructor, all that stuff, and
it is a choice not to get married. But I
think I think if you've never been married. The only
person you've ever worried about is yourself. And if you
only worry about yourself, that doesn't bode well for me
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for a partnership. And to me, at my age, I
am not looking to be led with by any age.
By the way, I hope women aren't looking to be
led by the nose. But I want to partner someone
to walk with.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Me, not in front of me, not behind me together.
How about Carol and the la and they they had
a lot in common, the love, the sports thing. I
like that. Robin. I would definitely want to date Robin because.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Oh no, no, listen, you and I are taking a trip
out to Napa, Robert. We're gonna go see Rabbit and Terry.
I mean, I love some of these women have so
much spunk, But I would be lyne. I would be lying.
And for all you out there, don't send me messages
telling me I'm jealous, I'm not. I am perfectly happy
with who I am. I just believe in golden people
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having energy. And you know, when you're fifty eight or sixty,
you know you have energy, but you're I just got
to say, maybe not that golden and.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That from Marshall Monica Monica Bee was so shocked when
she got the rose. Did you see her face?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Because I felt like she didn't think was going to
be there. And she's quiet but funny, like she's got
a great personality.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yes, I'll tell you Another one I really like is Jerry.
And I'll tell you why I like her first all
because she's real and you and I are so real.
So I love her kids on her own, I mean,
but a widow at forty seven years of age, let's
talk about that raising kids again. I don't know if young.
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I think the people watching this season are so going
to I have goosebumps, are so going to identify with
a golden woman. You know, she's sixty four. I'll cut
her slack for a year. And she said the overarching
themes that I love hearing about, you know, it's my
turn now eighteen years later, and I think Mel resonated
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with that because he's raised his kids. And I just
think the the overarching themes of finding, wanting connection, looking,
taking time, you know, it's our time now, let's all
of those things. I want that to be displayed more.
I want that to be a more central focal theme
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in this in this show, and I hope it becomes more.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So tell me something, Kathy. When you look at Mel,
he doesn't read. I can't read what it is he's
looking for.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You know what I'm saying? Okay, so I related. I
swear I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Put my finger. Do you want the flirtatious, fun, jump
on your bones kind of girl?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Maybe Susan s mart like, maybe he doesn't know. Maybe
he doesn't know, and that's fair mail. If you don't know,
you don't know, you don't know what.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
But that brings up something else that I thought about.
The women, uh, you know, were were enthusiastic and lots
of energy, and I do want to get back to
the cheerleading.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yes, but did you hear.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Mel talking about the women and how you know they
gave up? They're so energetic and they're pretty Yes, But
but I didn't hear him sort of talking about what
it does for him, Yeah, and and what he's really
looking for. I didn't hear it. And so again, as
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a woman of a certain age, if you don't know
by the time you're our age what you want.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, but you can't judge a book by its cover.
Heel he met them.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
What I have not met him. I can't wait to
meet him. But all right, what about the cheerleading. I
was a cheerleader. Let's just start with that, would you.
I mean, come on.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I thought it was fun. It was better than the
talent contest. They s.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You know what I have. I had not thought about
karate chopping. Would like when when Paula I thought, you
know what, I thought it was going to be and
I was thinking, oh, damn it, I was on the
wrong season because I can throw a football. I can
throw a spiral football.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It was dance.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I know. I was thinking, well, I was a chow there.
I could do that too. But I was just when
they go we're shaking our booties, I'm like, come on, really,
look at us.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
On stage doing that. That's what the show is about,
taking you out of your comfort zone and making you
do things that you wouldn't normally ordinarily.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Just Joe, you know what, Susan, You're right. I have
lived seventy plus years never jumping into a swimming pool
with a ball gown on. Damn, I haven't lived life yet.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That was a moment I loved. I love that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Tell you would Susan you'd be like, I ruined my dress.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I ruined after the night, it wasn't before. And I
loved the rose ceremony outdoors by.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh yeah, I did love that. That's something else. Wait,
that is something else that they changed on our season.
They were trying to hide that we're up all night long,
and you know, Sundra's bitching. Who was you know, not Sondra,
Natasha give me a chair. But this time it was
like they acknowledged the elephant in the room, which is friends,
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you're up all night. The rose ceremony is in the morning,
they said at seven am. I like that because to me,
that's authentic and I want I want it to be real.
I really want it to be real.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
To see what you watch on TV is really happening.
It's really happening.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's really happening.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It's about finding love. Get back down to the basics.
It doesn't matter who flirts the most, who dresses the best,
who sleeps more, who shy, who is forward. It's about
a connection of love.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, well, well you are just okay it that's what
we want. What were you about life, thick girl?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, you know it's coming for me.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Susan I'm saying I want this show is the framework
is about love, but it's so much more and the
themes that we like anxiety. You know, you heard Mel
say at the beginning, this is real people, and forget
the TV show for a minute. People our age, We
have anxiety. We have worries about our children. When he
(25:30):
took Cheryl on that first date and she's talking about
her son and taking care of her mother and her
husband left, I'm sitting.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Her husband comes back and steals tyson for a week.
She didn't know where he was.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I was losing my shit. I'm all about what makes
the Goldens different, and their stories are real. I mean
they all have hair and extensions. I don't care what
you say. And they're all gorgeous now where bikini's and
(26:04):
for that I am jealous. However, their stories are real
rate you know, taking care of mother in laws, taking
you know, Mel taking care of his sons.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And not having any time to date in all those years. Right,
look at the young lady that we interviewed, Jerry. She
spent her life raising her children. When her husband passed
Neckli's time for her and he knows it, accepts it
and going after it.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, now I'm gonna say something else that it's going
to irritate you. But why now we're just going for
the gusto today. I just love it because you know,
Susan and I, this is how.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We spend wine.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yet you know either do I speacause you know we
might take a break care. I have to say, I'm
going to ask you because I have mixed emotions. And again,
when Cheryl got the first date, the princess date, just
like Ellen got it in ours. But can I just
say I love it? I mean I want that jewelry,
I want those dresses, I want it all. But I
(27:04):
just feel I can help. I'm a realist. I can help.
When she said starts crying, I want to be a princess,
I have not taught my daughter to be a princess.
I taught my daughter to get up off her ass,
get an education, work hard, earn your money. So it
bothers me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
A girl, you always teaching the girly things as well.
It's it's you're a female. Females are different than males. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
When Cheryl said I want to be a princess and
she cries, I thought to myself. Okay, I mean we.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
All had anybody treat her like a princess.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Treat yourself like a princess, believe in yourself for a.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Man to put you up on a pedestal and make
you feel like a princess. And at that date was
like a princess date.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
It was no, no, no, hear me, no, no, no, the
way let me be.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Harry was sitting there, Hello, Wait.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I am not saying freaking princess. No, no, no, wait, I
don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. I am saying that.
When I hear a woman at our age say I
want to be a princess, I'm like, no, sweetheart, you
have so much more. Cheryl. You are a strong woman.
Who is you know, who has an open hearted is
(28:25):
taken care of your mother, you know you had.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
A son that you've raised. That's what makes you worthy.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's not about Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So you're doing all that Because I could say that,
I could, I very well could say. I'm going to
say it. I want to be a princess. I'm sixty
eight years old and it's time I be the princess.
You're right her careers like she did it all, why
not want to be the prince? Now? Maybe look at
it like that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I guess it's the word princess. I you know, I
guess it's word struggling with. I mean, I remember, listen.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
For Halloween, You're going to be a princess. I'm going
to dress you whip, I'm gonna keep the crown, I'm
gonna get your glass.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Listen, I want a guy who loves me at our age.
I'm saying this is stuff that you hear a twenty
year old saying I want to find a treat you.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It just came out of her mouth. Maybe maybe she
didn't even know she was going to say it.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
She just said I want to be I guess what
I'm trying to say is Cheryl. I love you. I
think you are strong, I think you are capable. You
should be celebrated and all right, you want to be
a princess.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, you know I love it being princess. I love it.
She came in on that motorbike and she wants to
be a princess because she was rugged. She's done the
timeboy things, she's done that. You know, the rough stuff.
Now you dress up and you're pretty. That's the best.
That's the problems. And I need the pretty clothes and
the jewelry. That's the benefit of being a woman. You
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get to do boat.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were gonna say, in sense,
I'm with you, be a woman. It's the princess I'm
struggling with. Okay, I want to talk about We talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh wait, I want to.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Talk about I can't tell you because I'd have to
look them up other than let's see uh andre uh
the ones who went home, Diane. But I hate it?
Here can I ask you? And I want an honest
answer here, miss Princess, Yes, your highness, here's my question
(30:30):
for you. Yes, does it go against your grain as
a strong independent woman? And you and I both are that.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Women.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I mean, you understand I'm gunning to become a producer here.
I don't like the fact I know people have to
go home. I wish they would start with I think
there were seventeen left. I think they six went home.
I think I'm right. Why don't they just freaking start
with seventeen and have them stay a couple of episodes.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And less crowds like even the group dating make it
less of them. So they really can mingle and know
somebody's personality.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I mean, we're talking about two things here, what makes
a good show. We're talking about what makes a good show.
But I'm talking about women. We are trying to celebrate
golden women. We are not invisible anymore. We have things
to say. We want people to listen to us, except
we really don't because we're sending six of you home
the first night. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Before I forget, I hate to interrupt, but someone said,
I feel seen.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Was that Cindy, Yes, I'm safe? Safe scene? And again,
these are these overarching themes of feeling seen, being vulnerable,
having an open heart, coming for the right reasons, having
anxiety but overcoming in all these really serious kinds of things.
(31:58):
And that's why I hate seeing women call home the
first night who didn't even have a chance, whether they
spoke to him for two minutes or not. I just
wish that that.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
The first time we got to sit with Gary, I
think it was like maybe two minutes. And what are
you going to talk about in two minutes? Except Peg
Peg knew what she was going to talk about. All right,
let me hear let it. I want to know what
it is you're looking for? What do you like to do?
Are you retired? How much time do you want to spend?
I'm not sure of her.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Such do I see me in peg? Do you I
see me in peg? I'm like, let's get down to
brass tacks here.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I mean? I've always been a direct I mean, I
wasn't a firefighter, but you know my son is and
I've seen it all. I love that she's strong. But again,
men are either going to be a brilliant. Why I
say man now is either really going to be attracted to.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That long woman or or not. Compare that to Nicole.
Have you heard conversation from the call in him? I
only see hanging on him making out, and I get it.
She feels like there's chemistry and she's going for it.
But I had never really heard a good conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You're saying they did not have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Did I miss something? Was there a deep conversation with them?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'm sorry, Jess, Nicole, you asked specifically.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I don't think they had. But again, remember we're only
seeing what the TV show shows, so we don't know
if he did. But again I don't know why I'm
on such a terror today, But I want women. It's
it you want to go, you know, jump his bones
in the pool. Okay, fine, but I want I want
women to see that we can be graceful and strong
(33:48):
and have opinions and still be desired by men.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
And they were very good point, and they were all
excited when she got the date, the first date. They
were all happy for her, like we were for everyone
when Teresa got the day. I feel like a job
like we were the first ever. Our show was the
first ever in the history of mass Yeah, we're seeing
(34:13):
they're gonna fine tune and they're you know what I mean.
But I don't think they should go any younger fifties
is out of the ballpark for me. That's not golden. Well,
you're still in puberty.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I want to know. Do you think some of the
women there we don't have to name names unless you
want to do. I think some of the women are
there for the wrong reason.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I think some of the women saw us and what
happened for us.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And they want that which But do you and I, Susan,
You and I never thought about this. We don't even
have Instagram. Okay, wait, I didn't know what an influencer was.
The whole Neither did I.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
The whole thing was Kathy, and you and I both
share coming off that show, we're reaching so many women,
letting them no. Life is full of possibilities and that's
over in your sixties.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
That's the message, and that's the message I want this
show to have, always, always, And what did you think?
I have a back to Nicole for one second, I
have another question. What did you think? I mean? I
want to say, Nicole, I love and I do. I
love all these women, I mean the ones we met,
I do.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I think they're in front of everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
All that was a lot. When she said he's my husband,
you know, I'm like, come on, is that really maybe something?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Remember you at twenty some years old and you saw
your man I was married, No, you weren't married yet.
He was across the room. You went to a party
in college or something, and you said, that man right
there is going to be my husband.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Susan, you just proved my point exactly. I was twenty
years old when I got married. I was eighteen when
I met my husband, and you're exactly right. I was
at a fraternity party, I pointed, I was holding my
red cup because drinking was up and so it was
legal at eighteen, because that's how old I am. And
I and I looked across the room and I saw him.
(36:11):
I and I tapped my roommate with that was there
and that guy over there, I'm going to marry him.
And I did eighteen months later. So Nicole is not eighteen.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No, well, maybe she still believes it. Maybe she really
thinks it. Hey, we don't know what's going to happen.
She may be the one. Maybe that's what he likes.
What I can't wait for more episodes to know what
turns him.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I feel life actually, but you know, in always what
makes him happy because right now he's going with the flow.
His first kiss, I saw him kiss, I was like, Oh,
that's kind of dead. When I kissed Gary, I thought,
what that's all you got?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, So for all of you listening, I risk got
a little summation here before we move on. Let's see,
Susan's a princess, wants to be a princess. She's judging
how you kiss. She wants to be touched, she wants
to be loyal, but if you if you're as long
as you touch her, she's not really concerned if you're
loyal apparently, and it's oh and don't forget bring the
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passion to the game. We got it that.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Have energy.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm excited about this season. I really am. I know, like,
I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know
who's leaving next. A part of me wants to know everything,
and there's people that know, but I don't want to
know w y it happened.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I will say if I am, if God knows, I
tell the truth. There is a part of me that
is very envious of what's going on there because I
would I well, first of all, I'm going to take
heat for this too. Well, I would take mel over
Gary any day of the week Monday through Sunday, three
(37:59):
six a year, or you know, pick your time, pick
your poison. He I mean, I think he is a
good looking man. I think he's fit, you know, I
think he's right now it's a little stiff, but I
believe he's gonna warm up. And and I will say, Susan,
if he'd met me, there wouldn't be in these comments
about you know forty to six year old.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Can we go backwards about his shoes? Did you hear
what he said?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh, we said he has wide feet.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
The feet hurt man. And guess what, they weren't that
bad in the style today you see so many men
with sneakers in a suit. I love it. I love it.
I love it so.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
And so wait, you're I can't honestly believe that they
spend ten seconds talking about his feet. I mean, trust me,
if I'm looking at if I'm looking at mel, I
can assure you I am not looking at his feet. Okay,
we're just gonna put that out there. You know, I
don't care if he has feet. They're not good for much,
you know what I mean? Ever, Gary telling us more
than once what his shoe'size was, I was like, seriously, seriously,
(38:57):
save it. You know I am, but am envous because
I would love to do over there again. So I
want to.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Do over with a guy, a real guy.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
That's we have my time. We have a do over. Yes,
let's let's start a campaign out there. And then if
you're listening right into Bachelor that we need Kathy and
Susan get a chance to do it again or both
of us with all men. There's just one little detail here, Susan,
in case any of the listeners are paying attention, you
(39:32):
have a man.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Remember that.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
So so that means it to me. Guess what. Guess
what we're down to Kathy, Kathy and twenty five guys
or or Mel if he didn't choose anyone, No, I'm available.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Keep it golden, We got it. Is it in the
dictionary golden?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Like?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Is it just the color?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
It's it's something about it. I think you look it
up something about very expensive metal. But you know, I
I think this is going to be a great season.
I am so excited about next season. I think that
these women are really have come with their A games.
Some of their A games are not maybe to find Mel,
but we're gonna find out more.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And they are in it to win it, you know what.
So with being said, yeah, I not wait till next week.
And all right, everybody, we want to thank you so
much for listening to us, and we hope you write
in and let us know your thoughts. Yeah, make sure
to tune in tomorrow for our interview with Jerry.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It was perfect, it was fabulous, and it was hysterical
because we're we couldn't it was Gary Jerry. We're having
trouble keeping it, but she is fabulous. We had so
much fun chatting with her. Okay, we cannot wait. I
know I can't to keep watching this season and giving
you guys our thoughts. Let us know what you think.
(40:55):
We want to hear your thoughts. Tell us what you
think about the guys, what you think about Mel, what
you think about all these ladies.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Absolutely, and we're going to tell you what we think.
That's for sure. So listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden
Hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to
your podcast until next week.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Have a great week.
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us today. We are so excited to be back.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Indeed we are, and today we're getting into the premiere
of The Golden Batcheler Kathy, Where do we even begin?
Oh my gosh, I have so much going on in
my head.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I honestly, Susan. First of all, we have to say women, women,
Let's talk about the world. Let's start with that, or
we can start with mel Where do you want to start?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Oh? I don't know. Let's the women, Okay? To me,
it feels so different than our women. How if it was.
They all have long hair, they look younger or act younger.
I don't. I can't pin for okay.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
So my thought is, first of all, some hairdresser is
making millions off of them because they all have hair extent.
I'm sorry, all of them. They all had lots of luscious, long,
curly hair. Here's my thing about the women, and we're
not giving anything away here because they showed it in
(01:12):
the in the preview for next week. You and I
have met some of these women and they're lovely. Having
said that, to me, they don't seem or act golden.
Many of them are younger than the than our crowd was.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But a couple of years shouldn't make that much.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Well, but here's the thing. Many of these women this
you know, I've given this some thought. Many of these
women have careers, they own businesses. Yeah, so I think
many of them are looking for mel. Some of them
aren't looking for Mel, but they're looking for exposure. They're
looking to you know, up their game in the social
media world. I'm not blaming. I'm not saying it's a
(01:52):
bad thing. I'm saying we all came.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
As innocence looking for love. Love love. That's the moral
of this whole. That is the story that is Bachelor
about finding love in the most unorthodox way, if you will.
I mean being on a show, all these women meeting
one man. It's about love.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
But I see, I don't I disagree.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I think, oh, you're right with Not everybody's intentions are that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, not everybody's certified love. Some people are there. I
mean some of those people have you know, hundreds of
thousands of followers already. I mean, these these are not
newbies to the world. So having said that, I mean
watching women in the previews jumping into the pool with
their gowns on.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
We don't do anything like that.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, you know, I mean, I'm not sure I would
do it even now, but I want there's so many
things I want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Let's let's start with him. Can we start with him?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Let's okay, go for it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So coming out watching his story and seeing him with
his children, and and knowing still in the back of
my mind is statement that was made on that podcast,
I didn't forget it. I had a little judgy thing
going on, if you will. But his his life, the apology,
(03:16):
he was sincere. He was so nervous about his stupid comment,
and I almost felt bad for him. In a way.
I did feel for him. I liked Telly seems so humble.
I liked hell he chatted with his boys, and he
seemed ready.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
See, I agree with some of what you're saying. Again,
I give a lot of grace to anyone who's the lead,
because we as the women, you know, we hang out
in the bedroom, We could talk, we could talk about
our feelings. This guy is, you know, Mel has no
one he's and men aren't as typically as and lets
(03:57):
we're talking about Gary crime. Men aren't typically as emotional,
and they don't. They don't let their feelings out. So
I think, you know, personally, he started behind the eight ball. Yes,
he gave a great apology. You know, I'm reading things
on the internet that you know, he was primed, he
was coached to say it. I don't know that that's true.
(04:19):
I think he said in the moment on a podcast.
You know, he didn't realize the world was listening, A
and B. He hadn't gotten into the show yet. And
if you and I think they're beautiful, fabulous looking women,
I think he was shocked.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Well now you hear them now.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Yeah, And so I think when he says, I believe
him when he said he is going to have to
earn it back, and he and he's and he thinks
the women are lovely. I I'm I'm going with I
think he means it. You know, I got to say
this is I wish you would wear shoes instead of sneakers, Like, really,
you got sore, fhie. You know, come on, we have
(05:00):
to wear bras with metal straps on them for god sakes,
Come on, mouth and put on a real pair of shoe,
nipple covers and everything else.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Remember when they're they're trying to put the mics on you.
It's like, oh.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, okay, so so on on giving him grace. I'm
going to cut him some slack. I think he's a
good looking man. I think he's going to be surprised
at this journey. So so that's what I have to
say about him. I think he's doing his best to
dig himself out of a hole, and I'm going to
give him some grace. Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
The next thing, energy, Cathy about his energy. He's there,
he's in the moment. He still feels a little.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I was just gonna say energy. I think, well, listen,
this is you and me who you know, we're falling
all over each other with so much enterity. I mean,
he wouldn't know what to do with us. But I
think he just he's got it. It's gonna take some
time for him to warm up into what he's doing,
but I think he will the time he's ever done
this too. Yeah, okay, we have to jump in. The
(05:57):
women are lovely. I've said it. I said it on
my social media. You know, my money is on s
My Moody's on my Austin girls. But but wait, I
love sending her eyes gorgeous, but I want to talk
about as a mom and as a woman of a
certain age, because for all those of you listening, you know,
(06:21):
my daughter was not really excited initially about me doing
the show. Nicole in the pool with mel making out
with him, I'm sorry. I think I want to bring
I want to bring respect to women of our age.
I want the Bachelor Nation to say you can be
(06:43):
of a certain age and still command respect and love.
Nicole's lovely, but I'm saying I think it's over the
top and not a good look.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And you heard her line, like, you know, I'm going
for it. I feel there's something between us. But I
love when Terry said, I don't act like out look
at her. She's jumping on what does she say? She's
she's climbing them like a tree.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
That was Cindy. Cindy said, he's Cindy said, got that
girl's climbing on white, which you know, thank you, Cindy.
Love that.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
But I I when he did say something to Nicole like,
you know, let's slow this, let's.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know, yeah, but you know, did he though?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I mean, he said inter making out of them all
And I've we saw Gary kiss somebody else in front of.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It, I know, but you couldn't like that. But did
you feel the tension? I mean I saw Cindy, Cindy
was talking with I think I think a little tear.
I just want to go back to one thing that
Mel said. He said, love is something you don't compete for.
It's Alexandra, sorry, not Mel. Alexandra said this. Love is
(07:51):
something you don't compete for. It's a feeling. I'm sorry.
But again, as a woman who has been on this journey,
there is a competitive nature to this show.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yes, of course, and so a small window of time
that you get to spend with him, so you want
to make it the best that you can and make
him notice you.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Okay, And and and to that, to that, we're all
noticing Nicole. I mean, she's lovely and pretty that I love.
Now the next thing I have to talk about because
I thought of you, Susan when I watched this, I thought, oh,
I've got to talk. We've got to do this on
the Byecaust. But would you rather gain? Would you rather?
But here's here's where I again, I want to I
(08:36):
am the hopeful romantic. Remember I called that you are
in love.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I want to be in love I was a hopeless
romantic until I came off the show.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Now, well we're both hopeful romantics. Okay, here I had
I'm telling you I rebounded three times again twice. Wait
a second, Cheryl and here are planning this game Carrol
and and and he reads them and he says loyalty
or passion, And of course I'm thinking, well, this is
an idiot game. Of course loyalty. They both say passion.
(09:07):
I'm like, if you don't have loyalty in your relationship,
I'm sorry. Out the door. The next one was a
mountain or ocean, and you know, whenever they said the beach. Okay,
early rids or whatever, fine, early resident care, but then
touch or emotional connection. And I'm like, oh, well, we
(09:31):
both want both. But if you don't have an what
are you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But if to have a of course, yes, but that's
really dissecting. It was just a quick little you know.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Oh no, see you know, no, I want the man.
Let's be clear, who is going to I would have
an emotional connection with him. There's going to be physical touch,
and by god, he better be loyal. So I was like, mel,
you and I have to have a talk here because
I didn't like that when he said passion, no bother you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Because I need to be touched. I like physical touch.
So I got it.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Great. Let me just say for all you people out there,
I'm going to call Frederic and I'm going to say, hey, listen,
she doesn't care if you're loyal, she just wants.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
To touch her. That's not true. You're not excusing one. Okay,
yes it is.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
You had to do like the four wood you ratther is,
pick one or the other. You don't get to picktooses
and pick one. So that I'm just gonna say that
bothered me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Something else that Mel said and I quote, age is
just the number. Spirit has no age. Yes, loved it. Yes,
that was well well said.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
So when he when he said you know, love, happiness
and fun on his toast, like I said, I think
Mel's great. I think I mean, we all wanted to
find love. But I want these women. My thing is,
I want I want the Golden Patch or TV show
to be authentic with women who are golden and not
(11:07):
parading around like teenage girls. I don't like that. I
have to be honest.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Anybody can parade around. I goofy a lot of times, Kathy,
it's not what I'm talking about. Well, Golden, what are
you talking about that.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm talking about? When they're you know, everyone's gone, he's
so hot, It's like, Oh, that's well, that's what I'm saying.
I want, I want our message to be different, and
so I'm hoping that we're going to get more of that.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
How about Peg. Let's talk about Peg. She sat down
and chatted with him. I love this woman, okay, and
her hair is real. It is so thick. I would
hate to be her hairdresser.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Okay, let me tell you what I think about Peg.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
And I loved her conversation because she nailed it. She
asked very important questions. You're not retired, Well, how do
you spend time with people? I need somebody to spend
time with me. Like, I really loved her conversation, and.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
So let's talk about that for a minute. I agree
with you. She's very real. First of all, I love
that she's a bomb squad, but she's a fire firefighter.
My son was a firefighter. So Peg, I love you
right there, love her to pieces.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
But hold on.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
When she said wait, when she said when the bomb
didn't find others, I felt so mad. But here's the
thing about Peg. Yes, she for me, is either gonna
go really far or not at all, or she is
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going to be out the door because and I'll tell
you why that woman has been around. She said it
herself in a firehouse with you know, and she said,
all these women chatty chatty chang. She is not used to,
you know, hair flipping? What cold her lipstick? Am I
gonna wear today? Kind of girls that She's get the
job done. And I love her for that. So I'm
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anxious to see what happens with her as but I'm
proud of her.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yes, women as firefighter love, you've had this same exact
thing said to you when people have said to me,
how come you can't find anybody? And I'm a lot,
We're a lot, we're big personalities. Either you fall for
us or you don't at all? Right, yea, oh friend,
I have a question.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
I agree. I agree. But here's the question about Peg
and melt again as a woman who's looking for her partner.
When she said to Mel, you know I want you.
I'm looking for a man when you're going to retire,
he said never. Uh, And then I think if I'm
not if I'm I think I've got this right. She said,
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what are you looking for? And he said, I've been
looking for you. So you already see the flirting going on.
But again, we are not twenty five or thirty. We're
not building careers. Apparently he is still working, So how
is that gonna work?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Dumb women? Eat that up. That is an important thing
to say. Like even though he was putting it out
there flirtatiously, some women think, oh my god, I've been
looking for you. He really does. He has a connection
with me. You when you're that into somebody, any little
thing they say, you're going to take it as oh,
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it's it's me and him, it's me and him. Like
when him and Cindy had that talk and the three kisses,
you know, she kept going back.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Let me tell you that girl. I'm going to call
her in Austin. I'm gonna ask her to teach me
how to floor because man, she's got it down. Okay,
I want to. I will also want to talk about
Monica p.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Well.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
I almost cried because I'm alone. And when she talked
and he that you could see that connection of eating
alone and I just.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
And she felt maybe she said too much too soon.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
So here is the difference again, as a woman of
a certain age, the thirty year olds, the twins, they
just throw it all out there. They don't care. We're
smart enough to sit back and say.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Look at the picture.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, should I have said that? Should I have none?
Am I gonna push it?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
What she did? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I don't know. I just I'm I'm amy.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
A little firecracker. She's just a giddy, little tiny thing.
God bless her.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I love her. She's gonna be entertained for sure. Okay,
now you know Kathy Soandra has a twin. We knew that,
I of you we knew that, but I thought when
they she had told us on our show she had
a twin. But here's the thing. If Sondra had more
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hair and a more upbeat style I got rid of
her glasses, they would look like the identical twins. They
are sorry that she went home the first night, but
we never really got a sense of her. So. But
the next thing I have to ask you about is
before we get into the specific Senate, what do you
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think about golden women who aren't totally golden? As cheerleader
on my show?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
And I hate it on this show let's define golden.
Will you please to me the definition would mean age
of Social Security, which is sixty five, okay year olds?
Speaker 1 (16:25):
And yeah me something I mean and then and and
let me tell you I was I want to talk
about the cheerleading. But well, bookmark that and come back
to Diane. Diane is seventy one.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I mean telling them I want to be I go
in and look at the picture, Diane.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
It's the sweet librarian. I believe from Arkansas. I'm not
sure where it's from, but you know, cute, little short haircut.
She did not have extensions. Oh the oh you know
what she's not though she's not. She's from Alaska, which
is even she's from Alaska. But here's the thing. That woman,
in my mind, is there for the right reason. In
my opinion, she's she's there, she's authentic, she's and I'm like, yes,
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we actually have a really wonderful golden woman. I'm not
sure there. Well, clearly she went home, which you know
was sad because I wanted to see a woman who's golden,
who's fit. I mean, gosh, that woman is fit.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I wanted to see where that would go. But I
just had a genuine liking of her. Well, she was
the one that said, what the puck? Yeah, she's a
hard player, I mean, and he was shocked by that.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And we talk about Debbie and that dimples and how
she pretty in her smile, and she's never been married married,
and I wonder if that, you know, some people think
that's a red flag. I know you and I have said, oh,
he's never been married, was and I will not.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I dated one man, Debbie, I love you and you're beautiful,
And I'm not sure this applies to women, but as
a woman, I dated one man who had never been married.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Ask me if I'll ever do it again? Really?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
What ever? Never red flag like that?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
People that never had kids because they don't know what
it's like to have children.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Well, but sometimes you can't have children. That's a choice.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
While I'm not being married, not having children, that's a
whole family unit, something you adjust, it's part of your life.
And they don't. They never to do it. So I think,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think. I mean, Debbie said she built a business,
she started as a fitness instructor, all that stuff, and
it is a choice not to get married. But I
think I think if you've never been married. The only
person you've ever worried about is yourself. And if you
only worry about yourself, that doesn't bode well for me
(18:50):
for a partnership. And to me, at my age, I
am not looking to be led with by any age.
By the way, I hope women aren't looking to be
led by the nose. But I want to partner someone
to walk with.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Me, not in front of me, not behind me together.
How about Carol and the la and they they had
a lot in common, the love, the sports thing. I
like that. Robin. I would definitely want to date Robin because.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Oh no, no, listen, you and I are taking a trip
out to Napa, Robert. We're gonna go see Rabbit and Terry.
I mean, I love some of these women have so
much spunk, But I would be lyne. I would be lying.
And for all you out there, don't send me messages
telling me I'm jealous, I'm not. I am perfectly happy
with who I am. I just believe in golden people
(19:40):
having energy. And you know, when you're fifty eight or sixty,
you know you have energy, but you're I just got
to say, maybe not that golden and.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
That from Marshall Monica Monica Bee was so shocked when
she got the rose. Did you see her face?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Because I felt like she didn't think was going to
be there. And she's quiet but funny, like she's got
a great personality.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yes, I'll tell you Another one I really like is Jerry.
And I'll tell you why I like her first all
because she's real and you and I are so real.
So I love her kids on her own, I mean,
but a widow at forty seven years of age, let's
talk about that raising kids again. I don't know if young.
(20:31):
I think the people watching this season are so going
to I have goosebumps, are so going to identify with
a golden woman. You know, she's sixty four. I'll cut
her slack for a year. And she said the overarching
themes that I love hearing about, you know, it's my
turn now eighteen years later, and I think Mel resonated
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with that because he's raised his kids. And I just
think the the overarching themes of finding, wanting connection, looking,
taking time, you know, it's our time now, let's all
of those things. I want that to be displayed more.
I want that to be a more central focal theme
(21:16):
in this in this show, and I hope it becomes more.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So tell me something, Kathy. When you look at Mel,
he doesn't read. I can't read what it is he's
looking for.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
You know what I'm saying? Okay, so I related. I
swear I can't.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Put my finger. Do you want the flirtatious, fun, jump
on your bones kind of girl?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Maybe Susan s mart like, maybe he doesn't know. Maybe
he doesn't know, and that's fair mail. If you don't know,
you don't know, you don't know what.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
But that brings up something else that I thought about.
The women, uh, you know, were were enthusiastic and lots
of energy, and I do want to get back to
the cheerleading.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yes, but did you hear.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Mel talking about the women and how you know they
gave up? They're so energetic and they're pretty Yes, But
but I didn't hear him sort of talking about what
it does for him, Yeah, and and what he's really
looking for. I didn't hear it. And so again, as
(22:29):
a woman of a certain age, if you don't know
by the time you're our age what you want.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, but you can't judge a book by its cover.
Heel he met them.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
What I have not met him. I can't wait to
meet him. But all right, what about the cheerleading. I
was a cheerleader. Let's just start with that, would you.
I mean, come on.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I thought it was fun. It was better than the
talent contest. They s.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
You know what I have. I had not thought about
karate chopping. Would like when when Paula I thought, you
know what, I thought it was going to be and
I was thinking, oh, damn it, I was on the
wrong season because I can throw a football. I can
throw a spiral football.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It was dance.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
I know. I was thinking, well, I was a chow there.
I could do that too. But I was just when
they go we're shaking our booties, I'm like, come on, really,
look at us.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
On stage doing that. That's what the show is about,
taking you out of your comfort zone and making you
do things that you wouldn't normally ordinarily.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Just Joe, you know what, Susan, You're right. I have
lived seventy plus years never jumping into a swimming pool
with a ball gown on. Damn, I haven't lived life yet.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
That was a moment I loved. I love that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Tell you would Susan you'd be like, I ruined my dress.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I ruined after the night, it wasn't before. And I
loved the rose ceremony outdoors by.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh yeah, I did love that. That's something else. Wait,
that is something else that they changed on our season.
They were trying to hide that we're up all night long,
and you know, Sundra's bitching. Who was you know, not Sondra,
Natasha give me a chair. But this time it was
like they acknowledged the elephant in the room, which is friends,
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you're up all night. The rose ceremony is in the morning,
they said at seven am. I like that because to me,
that's authentic and I want I want it to be real.
I really want it to be real.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
To see what you watch on TV is really happening.
It's really happening.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It's really happening.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It's about finding love. Get back down to the basics.
It doesn't matter who flirts the most, who dresses the best,
who sleeps more, who shy, who is forward. It's about
a connection of love.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, well, well you are just okay it that's what
we want. What were you about life, thick girl?
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, you know it's coming for me.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Susan I'm saying I want this show is the framework
is about love, but it's so much more and the
themes that we like anxiety. You know, you heard Mel
say at the beginning, this is real people, and forget
the TV show for a minute. People our age, We
have anxiety. We have worries about our children. When he
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took Cheryl on that first date and she's talking about
her son and taking care of her mother and her
husband left, I'm sitting.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Her husband comes back and steals tyson for a week.
She didn't know where he was.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I was losing my shit. I'm all about what makes
the Goldens different, and their stories are real. I mean
they all have hair and extensions. I don't care what
you say. And they're all gorgeous now where bikini's and
(26:04):
for that I am jealous. However, their stories are real
rate you know, taking care of mother in laws, taking
you know, Mel taking care of his sons.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
And not having any time to date in all those years. Right,
look at the young lady that we interviewed, Jerry. She
spent her life raising her children. When her husband passed
Neckli's time for her and he knows it, accepts it
and going after it.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, now I'm gonna say something else that it's going
to irritate you. But why now we're just going for
the gusto today. I just love it because you know,
Susan and I, this is how.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
We spend wine.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yet you know either do I speacause you know we
might take a break care. I have to say, I'm
going to ask you because I have mixed emotions. And again,
when Cheryl got the first date, the princess date, just
like Ellen got it in ours. But can I just
say I love it? I mean I want that jewelry,
I want those dresses, I want it all. But I
(27:04):
just feel I can help. I'm a realist. I can help.
When she said starts crying, I want to be a princess,
I have not taught my daughter to be a princess.
I taught my daughter to get up off her ass,
get an education, work hard, earn your money. So it
bothers me a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
A girl, you always teaching the girly things as well.
It's it's you're a female. Females are different than males. No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
When Cheryl said I want to be a princess and
she cries, I thought to myself. Okay, I mean we.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
All had anybody treat her like a princess.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Treat yourself like a princess, believe in yourself for a.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Man to put you up on a pedestal and make
you feel like a princess. And at that date was
like a princess date.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
It was no, no, no, hear me, no, no, no, the
way let me be.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Harry was sitting there, Hello, Wait.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
I am not saying freaking princess. No, no, no, wait, I
don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. I am saying that.
When I hear a woman at our age say I
want to be a princess, I'm like, no, sweetheart, you
have so much more. Cheryl. You are a strong woman.
Who is you know, who has an open hearted is
(28:25):
taken care of your mother, you know you had.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
A son that you've raised. That's what makes you worthy.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
It's not about Okay.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So you're doing all that Because I could say that,
I could, I very well could say. I'm going to
say it. I want to be a princess. I'm sixty
eight years old and it's time I be the princess.
You're right her careers like she did it all, why
not want to be the prince? Now? Maybe look at
it like that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I guess it's the word princess. I you know, I
guess it's word struggling with. I mean, I remember, listen.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
For Halloween, You're going to be a princess. I'm going
to dress you whip, I'm gonna keep the crown, I'm
gonna get your glass.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Listen, I want a guy who loves me at our age.
I'm saying this is stuff that you hear a twenty
year old saying I want to find a treat you.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It just came out of her mouth. Maybe maybe she
didn't even know she was going to say it.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
She just said I want to be I guess what
I'm trying to say is Cheryl. I love you. I
think you are strong, I think you are capable. You
should be celebrated and all right, you want to be
a princess.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Okay, you know I love it being princess. I love it.
She came in on that motorbike and she wants to
be a princess because she was rugged. She's done the
timeboy things, she's done that. You know, the rough stuff.
Now you dress up and you're pretty. That's the best.
That's the problems. And I need the pretty clothes and
the jewelry. That's the benefit of being a woman. You
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get to do boat.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were gonna say, in sense,
I'm with you, be a woman. It's the princess I'm
struggling with. Okay, I want to talk about We talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh wait, I want to.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Talk about I can't tell you because I'd have to
look them up other than let's see uh andre uh
the ones who went home, Diane. But I hate it?
Here can I ask you? And I want an honest
answer here, miss Princess, Yes, your highness, here's my question
(30:30):
for you. Yes, does it go against your grain as
a strong independent woman? And you and I both are that.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Women.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I mean, you understand I'm gunning to become a producer here.
I don't like the fact I know people have to
go home. I wish they would start with I think
there were seventeen left. I think they six went home.
I think I'm right. Why don't they just freaking start
with seventeen and have them stay a couple of episodes.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And less crowds like even the group dating make it
less of them. So they really can mingle and know
somebody's personality.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I mean, we're talking about two things here, what makes
a good show. We're talking about what makes a good show.
But I'm talking about women. We are trying to celebrate
golden women. We are not invisible anymore. We have things
to say. We want people to listen to us, except
we really don't because we're sending six of you home
the first night. I don't like that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Before I forget, I hate to interrupt, but someone said,
I feel seen.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Was that Cindy, Yes, I'm safe? Safe scene? And again,
these are these overarching themes of feeling seen, being vulnerable,
having an open heart, coming for the right reasons, having
anxiety but overcoming in all these really serious kinds of things.
(31:58):
And that's why I hate seeing women call home the
first night who didn't even have a chance, whether they
spoke to him for two minutes or not. I just
wish that that.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
The first time we got to sit with Gary, I
think it was like maybe two minutes. And what are
you going to talk about in two minutes? Except Peg
Peg knew what she was going to talk about. All right,
let me hear let it. I want to know what
it is you're looking for? What do you like to do?
Are you retired? How much time do you want to spend?
I'm not sure of her.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Such do I see me in peg? Do you I
see me in peg? I'm like, let's get down to
brass tacks here.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
I mean? I've always been a direct I mean, I
wasn't a firefighter, but you know my son is and
I've seen it all. I love that she's strong. But again,
men are either going to be a brilliant. Why I
say man now is either really going to be attracted to.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
That long woman or or not. Compare that to Nicole.
Have you heard conversation from the call in him? I
only see hanging on him making out, and I get it.
She feels like there's chemistry and she's going for it.
But I had never really heard a good conversation.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
You're saying they did not have a conversation.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Did I miss something? Was there a deep conversation with them?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'm sorry, Jess, Nicole, you asked specifically.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I don't think they had. But again, remember we're only
seeing what the TV show shows, so we don't know
if he did. But again I don't know why I'm
on such a terror today, But I want women. It's
it you want to go, you know, jump his bones
in the pool. Okay, fine, but I want I want
women to see that we can be graceful and strong
(33:48):
and have opinions and still be desired by men.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
And they were very good point, and they were all
excited when she got the date, the first date. They
were all happy for her, like we were for everyone
when Teresa got the day. I feel like a job
like we were the first ever. Our show was the
first ever in the history of mass Yeah, we're seeing
(34:13):
they're gonna fine tune and they're you know what I mean.
But I don't think they should go any younger fifties
is out of the ballpark for me. That's not golden. Well,
you're still in puberty.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I want to know. Do you think some of the
women there we don't have to name names unless you
want to do. I think some of the women are
there for the wrong reason.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I think some of the women saw us and what
happened for us.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
And they want that which But do you and I, Susan,
You and I never thought about this. We don't even
have Instagram. Okay, wait, I didn't know what an influencer was.
The whole Neither did I.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
The whole thing was Kathy, and you and I both
share coming off that show, we're reaching so many women,
letting them no. Life is full of possibilities and that's
over in your sixties.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
That's the message, and that's the message I want this
show to have, always, always, And what did you think?
I have a back to Nicole for one second, I
have another question. What did you think? I mean? I
want to say, Nicole, I love and I do. I
love all these women, I mean the ones we met,
I do.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I think they're in front of everybody.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
All that was a lot. When she said he's my husband,
you know, I'm like, come on, is that really maybe something?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Remember you at twenty some years old and you saw
your man I was married, No, you weren't married yet.
He was across the room. You went to a party
in college or something, and you said, that man right
there is going to be my husband.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Susan, you just proved my point exactly. I was twenty
years old when I got married. I was eighteen when
I met my husband, and you're exactly right. I was
at a fraternity party, I pointed, I was holding my
red cup because drinking was up and so it was
legal at eighteen, because that's how old I am. And
I and I looked across the room and I saw him.
(36:11):
I and I tapped my roommate with that was there
and that guy over there, I'm going to marry him.
And I did eighteen months later. So Nicole is not eighteen.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
No, well, maybe she still believes it. Maybe she really
thinks it. Hey, we don't know what's going to happen.
She may be the one. Maybe that's what he likes.
What I can't wait for more episodes to know what
turns him.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I feel life actually, but you know, in always what
makes him happy because right now he's going with the flow.
His first kiss, I saw him kiss, I was like, Oh,
that's kind of dead. When I kissed Gary, I thought,
what that's all you got?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Okay, So for all of you listening, I risk got
a little summation here before we move on. Let's see,
Susan's a princess, wants to be a princess. She's judging
how you kiss. She wants to be touched, she wants
to be loyal, but if you if you're as long
as you touch her, she's not really concerned if you're
loyal apparently, and it's oh and don't forget bring the
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passion to the game. We got it that.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Have energy.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I'm excited about this season. I really am. I know, like,
I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know
who's leaving next. A part of me wants to know everything,
and there's people that know, but I don't want to
know w y it happened.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I will say if I am, if God knows, I
tell the truth. There is a part of me that
is very envious of what's going on there because I
would I well, first of all, I'm going to take
heat for this too. Well, I would take mel over
Gary any day of the week Monday through Sunday, three
(37:59):
six a year, or you know, pick your time, pick
your poison. He I mean, I think he is a
good looking man. I think he's fit, you know, I
think he's right now it's a little stiff, but I
believe he's gonna warm up. And and I will say, Susan,
if he'd met me, there wouldn't be in these comments
about you know forty to six year old.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Can we go backwards about his shoes? Did you hear
what he said?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Oh, we said he has wide feet.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
The feet hurt man. And guess what, they weren't that
bad in the style today you see so many men
with sneakers in a suit. I love it. I love it.
I love it so.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
And so wait, you're I can't honestly believe that they
spend ten seconds talking about his feet. I mean, trust me,
if I'm looking at if I'm looking at mel, I
can assure you I am not looking at his feet. Okay,
we're just gonna put that out there. You know, I
don't care if he has feet. They're not good for much,
you know what I mean? Ever, Gary telling us more
than once what his shoe'size was, I was like, seriously, seriously,
(38:57):
save it. You know I am, but am envous because
I would love to do over there again. So I
want to.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Do over with a guy, a real guy.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
That's we have my time. We have a do over. Yes,
let's let's start a campaign out there. And then if
you're listening right into Bachelor that we need Kathy and
Susan get a chance to do it again or both
of us with all men. There's just one little detail here, Susan,
in case any of the listeners are paying attention, you
(39:32):
have a man.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Remember that.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
So so that means it to me. Guess what. Guess
what we're down to Kathy, Kathy and twenty five guys
or or Mel if he didn't choose anyone, No, I'm available.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Keep it golden, We got it. Is it in the
dictionary golden?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
Like?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Is it just the color?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
It's it's something about it. I think you look it
up something about very expensive metal. But you know, I
I think this is going to be a great season.
I am so excited about next season. I think that
these women are really have come with their A games.
Some of their A games are not maybe to find Mel,
but we're gonna find out more.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
And they are in it to win it, you know what.
So with being said, yeah, I not wait till next week.
And all right, everybody, we want to thank you so
much for listening to us, and we hope you write
in and let us know your thoughts. Yeah, make sure
to tune in tomorrow for our interview with Jerry.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
It was perfect, it was fabulous, and it was hysterical
because we're we couldn't it was Gary Jerry. We're having
trouble keeping it, but she is fabulous. We had so
much fun chatting with her. Okay, we cannot wait. I
know I can't to keep watching this season and giving
you guys our thoughts. Let us know what you think.
(40:55):
We want to hear your thoughts. Tell us what you
think about the guys, what you think about Mel, what
you think about all these ladies.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
Absolutely, and we're going to tell you what we think.
That's for sure. So listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden
Hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to
your podcast until next week.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Have a great week.
Hosts And Creators
Joe Amabile
Susan Noles
Serena Pitt
Kathy Swarts
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