September 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” we have Hakeem from this season of “Paradise”! Before we bring him in, we're chatting all about the big Bachelorette news! Kathy and Susan dish their thoughts on Taylor Frankie Paul and the season to come. Then, we bring in Hakeem! He’s here to get real about his time at the beach and dish out some advice to our listeners. We kick things off with “Paradise” as Hakeem tells us about how he prepared for the journey, his mentality going into it, and his thoughts on his early elimination. Then, we hear all of his updates post-show! From modeling to what’s next for him romantically, he’s telling all. Next, we dive into our advice portion, starting with the question of the day: Which do you prefer — grand gestures or everyday small gestures? We discuss our latest listener write in: What do I do when my best friend doesn’t like my girlfriend, but she’s my first relationship and I love her? Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
So today we have a very special guest joining us.
But before we bring him in, Kathy, we have to
talk about the new Bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Holy smokes, Taylor, Frankie Paul. Let's talk.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, first of all, I wish I was warmon now,
I mean really they're getting everything.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, there is that. Yeah, she's going to be on
like two Mormon shows and this show all at once.
That's but okay, wait I have to say, I know
there are people that are going to be like what,
because you know, Bachelor has traditionally plucked men and women
from ob security.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, and I like.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Us and put them on. But you know what, I think,
because of the nature of reality TV now and the
number of dating shows, Bachelor is smart. They decided to
completely go a different direction, pulling this this young woman
who has kids, who's been divorced, who's at thirty one,
(01:46):
has already lived a really rich, varied life, and she's
going to bring with her her million plus followers. People
are going to be invested in her and tuned in.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's what I And she's on her other reality show.
People do watch that, so they'll come.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Over, right, That's what I'm saying, just.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
As well Bachelor will go over.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah. I think I think it's a bold move y franchise,
but I think it's a great move I think I
think change is good. I think sometimes people fight change,
and you know, they people say we want change, we
want change, and then you give them change, They're like,
we want to go back to you know, but I
am I obviously don't know her.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
She's obviously adorable. Oh yeah, young, beautiful and the men
coming on. When you have young children, it's a whole
different ballgame when you're dating somebody with a child. Maybe
they've reached out to men that age that might have
children as well.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I don't know, right, but that's what I'm saying. There's
going to be so many facets of this show. I
think that are going to be something Bachelor has never done,
and I think people are going to tune in in
a big way to see how. I can't wait personally
hope that. I mean, I couldn't have mel so maybe
(03:09):
maybe I could get invested in Taylor and see how
her life goes.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh, I just hope we get to meet her live
and in person.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yes, Okay, well we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay, all right, now it's time to get into today's episode.
So let's bring in our guests. Everyone, please, Welcome from
Bachelor in Paradise and gen season of The Bachelorette. Hackem,
Hi hackm, my little tweetheart, Welcome back to Golden Hour.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
What so excited to see you?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh my goodness, of the love fest begins.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm telling you, I warned I wasn't on Paradise, but
you would not have gone home so soon. There would
have been.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Rumors it would have been the rumors would have been
affected me, you and Susan. I'm gonna tell you that
right now.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
We have chemistry like no other.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I just want to point out that Susan is in
a monogamous relationship. I was in Paradise dying to meet you,
and when you heard I was coming, you went home.
That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I heard it. Damn you thought it was my choice.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
How was your experience, I want to hear tell.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Us about it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
My experience was short, but it was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Honestly, I got at it a long time, right to
get you were one of the first ones.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, it was. It was one of the first of
you know, And so I got my mind right, got
my body right. You know. I was trying my best,
and I you know, I was actually really nervous coming
into it as well. I really really nervous, But like
I was like, I'm gonna be one hundred percent myself.
They're gonna love me. They're gonna love me. If they
don't like me, they don't like me in a sense.
So like I went in and did the best that
I could was.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It what you expected? Hockey? Was it when you got there?
Was it what you expected?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Or in what kind? And what you feel like?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I don't know who was on the beach, what you
thought you were going to get when you got Obviously
you didn't think you'd go home so soon? But what now?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know? Everybody wants the love story. I wanted the
love story. I wanted to be able to get on
one knee and propose to somebody. So that was always
the expectation, always kind of put you know, I'm always there.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I was there waiting for you. I came you just
God waits with me.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Don't play on my heart, don't play if loud to you?
Right now?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Who did you want to stay on the beach sit
besides me?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
For somebody to be there? And they weren't.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I mean, they were absolutely on the beach. But she's
she uh, she's in a relationship. Who is she, Parisa,
She's in a very happy relationship. So, like, I was
so excited to meet her, and literally twenty four hours afterwards,
she's on the beach, you know, So that was a dagger.
I at least wanted my shot to try to just
say hi and tell her how much I enjoy her
energy and how much I think she would be great
(05:54):
as a girlfriend. Obviously not right away being her girlfriend,
but I just she brings a lot to the table.
So again, like, yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't know, had the opportunity to tell her, did
you ever say anything?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
She wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I know, I'm outside of the show.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Outside of the show now because before I saw her
at STK Steakhouse for a grants ending of his season,
but I never chatted with her. I actually wanted to
keep it very platonic. I mean, I waved at her,
and she saw that I saw her, and so forth,
but I wanted to keep it very platonic before paradise,
you know, and so forth, so it doesn't seem like
I was trying to get to know her beforehand and
all that so forth. But yeah, I never got to
(06:33):
shoot my shot. All good though, It's not, like I said, like,
everything happens for a reason, and hopefully she's extremely happy
with whatever she's doing, because that's all that matters. But
my woman's out there.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Were you surprised about the five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
He didn't know when he was there?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Correct? Yeah, the five hundred thousand dollars, I had mixed emotions.
To be honest, I was super excited for him because
that's a lot of money, a lot of when I
got student loans that I got to pay off, and
you know, I would be very, very happy. But I
feel like it just changed the meaning of the show
though a little bitter. People started to be strategic, and
I'm like, what the hell are we being strategic on
(07:13):
a love show for We're trying to get married, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Hold on came, which would you have chosen? Then? Would
you if you had stayed around and you have coupled
up with someone, would you have chosen the money or love?
And if you couldn't choose both?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh, you couldn't choose.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I don't know you can. I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No, no, no. For sure, to be honest with you,
if I'm going down to the end and I'm getting
down on one knee or pick the money, I'm gonna
be honest, I'm probably gonna get down on one knee.
Here's the reason why is because like, you can always
earn five hundred thousand dollars, and I put myself in
a situation. I'm going to put myself in my brain
(07:50):
to say that I'm going to make that much money
in the future, and I can do that, but I'm
not going to sacrifice something that might be once in
a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's not the way I got to expect that.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Money, Wait, my brain goes here. Okay, if you guys
are a couple and you speak about it, we're gonna
say I'm choosing the money on TV and I'll see
you afterwards. Do you think something like that could happen?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
How they got cameras on us everywhere inside our rooms outside?
You can't. You can't just be like a you know, like.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, but how came they can't when you go home?
If you choose the money, they can't stop you from
calling up, you know. I mean, I don't know what
the rules are, but you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Know, maybe the rule says if you hook up with
that person when you leave, then you have to pay back.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't know, but I wanted that money too. But
if it came down to the end, like you know,
just had to pick, Like I didn't know you had
to pick love or the money?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Wait, is that what you have to do? I could
get because that's what you said.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You made it to the finale? How the hell you confused?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Because I I, what do you mean? Because I I
wasn't there for the very end.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
They planted a seed last week for the coming attractions
of this sweet coming next week. It's saying, maybe it's
the money, maybe it's for love. I don't know to
make a decision.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I believe, I believe you can have both. But wait,
I want to know, because you know, Mondy, it's boring
talking about money. Yeah, I want to know what you thought.
I know you didn't get to meet us, But what
did you think about Golden's being on the show?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
He does you the Goldens as a whole? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well really, let's make it all about me.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
What did you think about let me let me let
me say this one more time, as a young bluck
buck that was on the Bachelor in Paradise. Without the
Golden we wouldn't have the viewership, We wouldn't know. You
held it down. Specifically, you you needed you were You
started a whole trend like yo, I need some tequila, yo,
and let me get a bottle of one, Like you
started a whole trend. We was born as fuck, I'm sorry,
(10:11):
I'm gonna bets. I'm just gonna be honest with you. You
guys held it down. There were stories for days that
were true and honest stories. Yeah, you had Gary, you
had Leslie finance, you had Kathy up there with Keith,
you had Kim, you had April out there cougar hunting.
They you guys brought a You guys, your energy unmatched,
(10:36):
And that's my biggest Obviously, I wanted to meet Parisa too,
because she's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
She is, and no, she's as sweet and kind and
smart as she is beautiful, and I think she's really that.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
But with when it comes down to you guys, I
really was so excited for seeing you guys, and I
never got to see you guys. And that literally hurts
so much because when I was watching one, obviously watch
it back when you guys came through and everyone's having
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You guys were so lit, I was jealous.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's God, we came, we came down fun. That's the
difference in our ages.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We came. Guys all killed it and crushed it. And
you looked fire to Kathy. Let me tell you that
you look fire out there.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Keep talking, keep talking. I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I wait, tell you, I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Would you do Paradise again? Because you didn't?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yill no, hell no.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So wait I read somewhere that you crawled back into
your shell after filming. Is there any truth to that?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And why all back into my shell when it came?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
If I'm going to go on a show, I wanted
to be very intentional. I feel like in this, like
now that I know like this five hundred thousand dollars
involved with it, it just changes the whole thing because
you're going to go into it like damn, I want
the money too. Like going into there, I was going
in and I'm thinking like, oh, they're gonna bring you know,
we're gonna bring all these girls because you know we
talked beforehand. They're gonna bring in like all these girls
(12:06):
that we talked about. So then I can really build
a connection. But then at the end of the day,
you forget it's a TV show too, and they're doing
their job by making great TV. And yeah, I'm thirty
one now I'm trying to find love. I would go
on a TV show, maybe like a competition game show
or something that's very intentional to find that person, their
person specifically, that's their So why.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Would you want paradise again?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, Kathy, come on now, I'm not I like Kathy.
Come on now, what you just on the Kathy like?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Come on, Kathy got to stay, so it's a different experience.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You stay for what the five hundred thousand and then she.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Wait a second, I got to clear my name. Keith
and I said, and I think that's why the young
ones liked us so much, because we gave advice and
we were friendly and I love I love all y'all.
But Keith and I had said, and we meant it,
we are not taking money out of young's hands, I
said on last week's episode. Oh no, we had told them,
(13:10):
and we said on the odisode we said, well, it's
not that, It's just that at our age, relationships with
people is more valuable to us than putting money more
money in the bank. And you guys, you have college
loans to pay off. That's what I said about Alex.
She has college loans to pay off. You guys want
to buy your first house and that could be a
(13:31):
real big jump start. So Keith and I were not
taking money out of young kid's hands. It's not why
I stayed, That's not why Keith stayed. So now I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Came quickly and left. You were there really quick, And look,
that has to be a lot because you prepare and
you can't wait to get there and have this experience
and then within this a second it's over.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I think the host point part was truthfully, that they
announced me that early and then like, none of the
girls that I was expecting to be there was there.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Who else? How am I going to do?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Who else were you expecting?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I was hoping Parisa, I was hoping Jojo was gonna
be there. She's with Sam m kinney. We love that
she's Sam McKinnie and all that. Let's see who else?
Who else? Who was? Honestly, I was really looking forward
to getting to know those two girls, and whoever came came.
Also Olivia Lewis I mentioned her way beforehand too, after
our mentell awe and all that good stuff. But yeah,
(14:39):
I mean, I'm not a person that's going to force it.
You know, I did it. I loved it. Bachelorette was
amazing and all that.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, wait a minute, do you believe you can find
love in Paradise.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh yeah, you see grocery Store Joe. And uh.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So I'm saying, and so I'm asking you why if
you believe in love, you want to find love, why
wouldn't you do Paradise Again.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Well, grocery Store Joe didn't have to choose between five
hundred thousand dollars and love, you know, So that was
a whole different dynamic than so, like I can take
a girl down all the way to the final and
then she can say I actually want the money, So
you kind of just fire. You're playing with fire at
this point because now people are going to go on
the show for money too. So like that's why I
wouldn't want to do it, because I know I'm an
(15:28):
impath and I know I'm going to be hurt and
like for me, like yeah, like that's gonna Yeah. I've
been heartbroken before and it's taken me a long time,
and especially if I'm going to be engaged with somebody,
I don't I have never felt that type of heartbreak before,
and I empathize for all the men and women who have,
But like, I can never put myself in a situation
that you know, I.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Can I get solve this for you? What's I can
solve this? You go on Paradise again, if they ask you,
you find the girl, you fall in love. If you
don't win the money and she wants some money, Susan
will just send her a check for five hundred k.
You get the money, You get the money.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Is this new for every Paradise They're gonna know money?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Who knows. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It might be something they just tried once.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, what did you think about the new way the
show was narrated and the way they did things now?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I mean I'm not hating or nothing like that. I
just think personally for her team, I don't think I
can make that. I don't know if I'll be able
to be that vulnerable that I would have to trust
that someone's gonna pick me over five hundred thousand, Because
I know myself right, if I find somebody that's gonna
marry me, who's gonna have my children, all those things,
(16:46):
I'm going to do whatever I can, I'm gonna die
of headfirst in that. And I can't have the same
expectation that someone's gonna have the same type of mindset.
And that's why I would rather I mean, if I.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Have to have trust, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
For sure chances, But how normal is it that somebody
has to choose five hundred K over you. It's not
a normal situation that you're gonna see every day. So
like that's the ultimate test, right, But like yeah, so
like for me, I would I don't. I don't blame
anybody who would want to take five hundred K. But
I don't want it to be at the expense of
my heart.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
To break somebody's heart. I hope it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, for sure, but it's it's it can happen.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Talk about hate mail?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, so wait, are you dating? Anyone came now?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Well, I'm looking forward to dating. I'm still not, But
I mean i'm dating, I'm trying. I'm like, I'm looking around,
I'm chatting, I'm not actively searching. I'm just focusing on
myself because if I'm not one hundred percent in tip
top shape, then how am I gonna be able to take
care of my lady?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
What kind of shape? What are you talking about? Mental shape?
What kind of shape are we have?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Emotionally? I think I have to do better with my
emotional regulation. I think that's my last Like hurdle that
like I need to learn how to just let things
go and not you know, you don't have to say stuff,
you know, And I feel like with that, I feel
like there's a lot of things with me because I'm
a very in emotional dude. I wear my heart on
(18:12):
my sleeve and all those twins we've said this people
my language, no for sure, So like I just don't
take care of myself in relationships. I make sure to
take care of my partner in tenfold, and then I
don't have anything for me. So I got to love myself.
I don't think I say I love myself. I say
I'm confident. Yeah I think I'm a good looking dude,
(18:32):
But like, do I truly love myself? How much that
I love other people? Because I love other people because
I seek that validation that they need me, they want me,
they love me too, instead of just saying I'm going
to do this because I love them. Done.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Because if you're able to say what you just said
and you realize this, you're almost now tell me about
this model.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Thing, my model modeling modeling mode.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Right away, A model.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
With a model.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I walked at San Diego Swim Week. As you
probably I saw that thing that you were.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It was bizarre.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It was I mean, I would say it was different, different, different.
I wouldn't wear it. Probably none of that's because I'm
not I don't got the swag like that.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
To be How did you feel? How did you feel?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It was liberating because they had me there and they
were like the queen, just be yourself because I knew
going into this, I'm like, guys, I'm not sure you
know your your average you know, runway model. That's like
you know all that, you know me be me. I
was out there in the kwan, I was everybody was
(19:56):
enjoying it, but I can tell like the modeling coordinator
was like a little bit embarrassed, was like, oh my god.
But dude, the designers, the audience, they were lazy.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
How did that come about? How did they reach out
to you? How did that come about?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, they reached out to me as an ambassador, and
I was like, you know what, you'll need somebody that
can walk. And then they're like you know what, yeah,
we got you, we got you. So then they pulled
the little strings got me in there. Aaron Bryant was
there too, Brandon Jones as well from brand Jolnes from
Michelle season. So yeah, it was, it was. It was
a great opportunity. I'm going to be doing another one
(20:31):
for charity as well, so I'm excited for that, you know. Fun.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, you know what, put it out there, maybe misright
or come and you know, just check you out.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Nah, you don't want to do that. I wanted to
be so organic that I'm like just taken by surprise,
like yo, like where did you come from? Like you
know what I mean, Like where have you been? Because
I throw it out there, he's gonna be here and
all that. Like, first of all, I'm a nobody, like.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Never never, never, never never.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I'm not Michael is Susan. What I'm saying though, is
is that like in situations like this, I want to
just run into my woman without it having to be tried.
Like I don't want to have to feel like I'm
trying to find her because every person that I've talked
with that's in a happy relationship happens when you're not
(21:20):
looking amen every single time you're not looking for it,
and then it just happens. So I'm trusting that I'm
gonna just keep doing my thing. I'm gonna work on myself.
I'm going to try to put good into the world
and then she will hopefully all right, so I mean,
bless me.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
All right, So what what do you what are you
thinking for the rest of this world? What do you
the rest of yeah, the rest of the world, the
rest of this year. What are you manifesting for yourself? What?
Obviously Miswright's gonna compound your door down, your front door down,
But what else?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
My tip in.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
What else do I have? But I'm walking in another show.
I'm also going to be going to Vegas for this
an event. I'm gonna go with Brandon. Brandon's the man
Brandon from Michelle Sas and Brandon Jones, Like he's kind
of became like one of my close friends, Like when
I'm very close and he's just hooking me up because
(22:23):
you know, because he's Brandon Jones. So I'm just you know,
I'm just there, just you know, having fun there for
that event.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So I want to see the event in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It's called Rise. I think okay, it's called Rise. I'm
not sure, if you know. I'm I really don't be
outside like that. I'm really in the crib watching TV.
So like if I get if I get invited some
fuck it. You want me to go to Vegas? Fuck it,
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Just remember what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Hockey.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
No, yeah, girl, all right, we gotta move.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
We are going to move into our topic of the
day because you were.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I have one more things. I'm get here. Transplant. I'm
dead ass, I'm getting it. I'm going to Turkey and
I'm getting in here.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Trs just got back from Turkey.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
What Circe is?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
What we invited you? But you didn't answer the call
when we called somebody to leave it out here?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You didn't. You don't have my digits, you know you really?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I can get your digits, trust me.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Won't you? I ain't even do something with it then.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So you're gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Do what?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The hair transplant?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Oh yeah, you're gonna see me. I'm a fresh cut.
I'm gonna have a forehead like it's so smart. My
forehead is about five in the bitches, I got a
five head. So when I'm gonna have that line to
go down had my line is so Chris, nobody's gonna
be able to say.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, okay, why Turkey? A couple of my clients did it.
One just supposed to be and he did it in
Florida's supposed to be the place for uh, it didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
He got money money. He's doing it in Florida. You're
doing it in the States. He got money money. All right.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, if you need a nurse to take care of
you afterward, Kathy and I we know all about this. Themble.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh shit, I think I might take care of me
right now.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Keep literally keep your shirt eye. All right, we are
moving into our topic of the day before this degenerates
any further. All Right, Hockey, what do you find to
be more romantic Grant? I already know the answer this,
but I'm gonna ask you anyway. Grand gestures are small
everyday things?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
And why small everyday gestures or grand gestures? Which no,
every day small gesture not grand gestures. Yes, so I
don't think I don't need all the grand stuff and
all that. I want you to do things to let
me know that you're thinking about me. It doesn't have
to be you're taking me to Nobuo to get some sushi,
(24:55):
like if you're just making my life easier. If I
got to go to work and you see, I'm in
the shower and my clothes aren't you know, my clothes
are crinkled, and you're like, hey, let me take care
of this real quick for you, or let me start
a coffee for you real quick. That makes me think that,
oh yeah, she cares about my well being and like
how I am feeling at this moment, not just trying
to get this grand gesture to be like oh wow,
you did such a great thing like blah blah blah blah.
(25:16):
But she's actually that world.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I just love language, so you speak. Remember we talked
about love languages.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, no, that's exactly. We're all the same. I would
much rather have a small gesture and for exactly the
same reason I came. Just they're thinking about me, They
care about my welfare. Just that small thing of turning
on the coffee they care.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, absolutely, are you coffee?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Bringing the calling to me is caring.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Bringing the coffee. You're right, that is such.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
A delight when that happens. It's not but sure, over
the times that I've been out and when someone does that,
it's like, oh my god, that's I do it for
people all the time.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Does your man do it for you right now?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well? He does live in the States.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
So where does part of me? Where does he live?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
He lives in Saint Martin.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Saint Martin, French, West Indies. Oh oh Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Ye never Actually, I always get up first.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So yeah, hold on, you're dating a brother he Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I was like, hold on, he's he's from French, from France,
there's Saint Martin has two sides, a Dutch side and
the French side.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Oh okay, okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
But I love your love language and Kathy, you you
like the small gestures too. For me, it's about attention
and physical touch, like when I'm in the room and
you just you know, touch me. I'm a touchy person too,
and everybody like I want all four of the love languages.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
A long time to learn that my partner didn't necessarily
have the same love language as I did. And I
never knew that. I always assumed what I like, I
would do for them, but that's not their love language,
you know. It took me a long time.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, no, for sure. It's taken a lot of failed
relationships for myself to realize that even my communication style
isn't the way other people want to be communicated to
as well. So yeah, now totally for sure with that, Kathy,
what is your thoughts You're are you a physical touch person?
You like to marry so I'm sleep Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Some people like gifts, you know, I buy gifts, but
I don't necessarily need the gifts.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I just need I'm the same I I My thing is,
I like I like the small gestures. I mean, you
want to bring me a Porsche, I'm not going to
turn it down, but you know that's not my goal.
But yeah, just the and I'm very much honestly, It's
gotten into trouble sometimes with men who I'm not I'm
a touchy person, but yeah, they misread that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
No, I get it. I totally understand that if someone
is just laying down right, I wake up in the
middle of night and I just need to touch you,
just to Yeah, I don't know. How do you feel
about that? Is that weird?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Do you feel like because you know they're they're wanting
to be there?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You know, we had a question earlier I came about
on another podcast about sleeping in separate bets. I was like, no,
I like to put my cold feet on your back
and stay y has sleep apnea.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I got my own room.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I'm sorry you ain't ship you age ship.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
No, you are.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
The Susan. They've come a long way. They now have
little things. They implanted your skin.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Everybody could get.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
All right again. We're gonna move on here to our
advice ports. You're gonna give some advice. I came already.
All right, We're gonna ask a question and you're just
gonna tell us what you think. All right, here we go.
This question is from Zach. He's twenty eight from Shorthills,
New Jersey. Hi, Kathy and Susan. My mom listens to
your podcast and she is also having trouble helping me
(29:31):
with this situation, so she told me to write in.
I've been dating my girlfriend for about five months now,
and this is actually my first real relationship. Overall, I'm
really happy and honestly just excited to have found someone
I connect with. The only problem is my best friend,
who also happens to be my roommate, doesn't like her.
(29:52):
He's constantly pushing for quote guys' nights where she isn't invited,
and he makes me feel guilty if I choose to
spend time with her or have her sleepover. When I
asked him why he feels this way, he told me
he thinks she has quote controlling vibes and that she's
not the right person for me. This has been tough
because he and I have been close and through her
(30:13):
little kids, and I really value his opinion. At the
same time, I care about my girlfriend and just want
him to be happy for me. I'm stuck between wanting
to honor a lifelong friendship and also wanting to explore
this new relationship. How do I balance both without losing
one or the other?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
How old does he say? He's twenty seven, twenty eight,
twenty eight? He a grown ass man talking about he
wanted him to come over boys and night. If he's
trying to get to know a woman and you're telling
him he's in t shit, feel guilty because he's spending time,
he's tripping, his friend is tripping. If that's really, I'll
be damn facts. I'll be damn if one of my
homies is like, man, you know you gotta, you know,
you gotta, You've gotta make time for us, you know.
(30:52):
And I think she's super controlling, Like I know what
I'm getting myself into as well, Right, I can stand
on business and so forth and so forth. I don't
need another person tell him that. Yo, Like, we don't
want you dating this person. So Zach, you need to
just go follow through with this, you know what I mean?
So like, in this whole situation, you're not in the wrong.
There's nothing for you to balance. I think the only
thing that needs to balance something is your homie. He
(31:15):
needs to balance the fact that he needs to know
that his friend is still his friend, but he's exploring
a connection, so you better does he say it?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
But Hakem, does he come out and say it to
his friend? Because remember this is Zach's first real relationship,
so he's probably, you know, a little unnerved by the
whole thing, and he doesn't want to lose his childhood friend.
And he's probably I mean, you know, you're a man
about the world, you've been out about, but this guy
is never dated. This is first relationship. He doesn't want
to so what's gonna I'm gonna keep him both.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
He adds something to that before you answered, Hakim, and
I agree with what you said, but I try to
keep an open mind. What if because it is his
first real relationship, he's got his blinders on and he's
gonna lun the hard way answer and her and his
roommate sees it like it could be.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
It could be, but he's gonna learn. He's got to
learn his own lessons own.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think the roommate's jealous. He's gonna lose a roommate.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I truly just think that in that situation he just
is jealous one or be just bored because some of
the time that he was getting with Zach is now
being in a woman that he doesn't like as well.
And truthfully, it's no one's business if she if he
has his blinders on or not. In my point of view,
(32:34):
I think in the in this grand scheme of everything,
if he's happy in that relationship and that is your
best friend from childhood, you want to him to augment
his his happiness. So and she's doing that, Like, why
would you be upset with that? And if that person
stops being your friend, that wasn't your friend.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Okay, but I'm gonna I gotta ask you. I know
not I totally agree with you, But what you're not
saying is how does he handle the situation? Does he
goes to his friend and says, hey, homide fill in
the blank. What does he.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Say out, stay in your laying, biting bitch.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
She's talking to his roommate.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
What is wrong in the big Honestly, if it comes
down to it, he should just say to him like, hey, like,
I know you're feeling some type of way about this
whole situation.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I mean' not a big fan of my current girlfriend,
but hey, this is my first relationship ever and I'm
feeling great in this relationship. And I know you're not
a big fan of her, but right now, unfortunately, like
I feel like I want to keep progressing things and
I want you to be a part of that. So
like for me exactly there in space. I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I hope you heard us.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, And if listen and hockey, if bobeling doesn't work
out or whatever else you're doing, you could become a
therapist for young stupid boys.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
That's hilarious. Therapist, Like I could see a coach. I
could be a coach and like, yeah, just a life coach.
And just like worried about things that actually matter. I
think we worry about things that don't matter so much
more than you know, the small stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
All right, Hockey, we we've asked you a lot of questions.
Do you have anything you want to ask us? You know,
we know you better. Do you want to know? What
do you want to know? Open the floor? What do
you what do you know?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Are you doing right now? Kathy? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Oh? Just stab me? Just stab me? Stab me?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You asked me, she makes friends.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I would love to be dating, but I'm not. But
you know, someone, Kathy, you are fine.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Don't don't do that. Don't make itsull. You know somebody,
there's men out there that they see you and they're like, damn,
she's tough, like they want to talk to her so like.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Hockey they do, and it just so happens that that's
not her person, right Kathy, there's somebody trying to get
her right now and.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Right now no listening to your podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh listen. He's a nice guy. He and I are
on separate politically. We're not aligned. There's no huh. The man,
the guy that's and that would like to date me,
we are not politically aligned.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
We don't like to do the same things. I mean,
you know, he said to me, you're beautiful, I want
to date you. Well there's you know, thank you but
you know so, no, I would love I don't. I
don't have a spark for him. I would love I
have a friend spark for him. I would love to
find someone to date, but it's not as easy I came.
(35:33):
Here's the thing. Women reach out to men from Golden
Bachelor and and Golden Bachelor. At the men get reached
out to because women are on social media. Guys in
their sixties, they are not on social media for the
most part, and they don't know how to. They don't
have Yeah, so I got a problem. So if you
(35:54):
can solve that for me, I'd be, I'd be I'd
be I'd be.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Very greats for you. I can absolutely do that. Be
the middle man for you. That's gonna be easy, money easy.
So you have non negotiables, clearly we see here. What
else are your other non negotiables for you that you're.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Like, I actually have very few non negotiables. I want
I want a guy that will travel with me. I
want a guy that will make me laugh. You know,
everyone says you're I'm so funny, and I make them laugh.
I want someone that makes me laugh. I want to
have fun with someone. I would you know, he's got
to understand that I'm not a great cook. Like I'm
(36:29):
not going to sit there and not a great cook.
I can cook, I can't cook. I don't I don't
want to cook. I want something.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I want. I want to be real.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I can't cook.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I want somebody.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I want somebody.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
She can play golf and she's super super smart. She'll
figure out anything. She'll write you a letter or an email,
I mean, brilliant. But when it comes to the kitchen,
I cann't cook. So I want somebody who likes adventure,
who's fit. I'm not looking.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I want here's the problem, hakm And I'm just then
and then we're gonna put this whole podcast to rest.
I am seventy two years old, but I have the energy.
All my friends are in their forties and fifties and
they can't keep up with me. So there's a big
disconnect there.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Guys want you know it's it's it's worried about the number. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Wait, So for the energy wise, are you meaning like
your sex drive or just meaning like going out wise?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
All of this physically shape, I'm in great shape, you
know all of it. I have energy for everything. And
you know, men look at the number and go.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Note, she says, might say your famous line, I don't
want to used to guy.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't want to used to guy. You know what
he used to guy? Is uh hakma used to guy.
He used to play tennis, he used to ski, he
used to travel, and now he sits his ass on
the sofa. That's absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Got it, got it, definitely understand. But I think the
age is nothing but a number. Truth. I'm being honest.
You see shere, She's phenomenous, she's she's she's not real,
She's not real.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
That's about me.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You are literally beautiful, basically basically what I'm saying. You
are literally phenomenal inwardly and outwardly. You are literally gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You gotta think for Susan, so I don't know what
to say.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
It's just chemistry, Kathy, you can't make that.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Shut up. Yeah, I mean Susan is like Susan and
I he's just Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
It was instant the day I met you, it was like, wow,
she was stiff. Freeze could hurt my feelings at times.
People's negative comments on my Instagram accounts like why did
they say that?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Why are you so mean to me? And also Kathy truthfully,
I have a huge crush on Chris Jenner as well
and Susan. Susan is literally.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Like, excuse me, have you seen Chris General lately? They
look nothing alike anymore.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
She's gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
She looks like they don't look alike anymore. I'm serious.
I love you, Susan.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's ships I need is like cheeken plants or something.
But I love Chris.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, she's gorgeous. Okay, well gorgeous. What's up? You got
you kicking me out?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
It's about time here, it's and I just want to say, Hakeem, yeah,
after we get off this podcast, you better get before
you crawl in her shirt. You better go find me
a guy.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Okay, Okay, With that being said, that does it for
this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Thank you all, Thank you, Hakeem, Thank you all for
joining us, and be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour
as we have new episodes coming out every week and
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Speaker 1 (39:50):
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Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah.
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen that Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Thanks so much for joining us again and we're so
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Speaker 1 (00:47):
So today we have a very special guest joining us.
But before we bring him in, Kathy, we have to
talk about the new Bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Holy smokes, Taylor, Frankie Paul. Let's talk.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, first of all, I wish I was warmon now,
I mean really they're getting everything.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, there is that. Yeah, she's going to be on
like two Mormon shows and this show all at once.
That's but okay, wait I have to say, I know
there are people that are going to be like what,
because you know, Bachelor has traditionally plucked men and women
from ob security.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yes, and I like.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Us and put them on. But you know what, I think,
because of the nature of reality TV now and the
number of dating shows, Bachelor is smart. They decided to
completely go a different direction, pulling this this young woman
who has kids, who's been divorced, who's at thirty one,
(01:46):
has already lived a really rich, varied life, and she's
going to bring with her her million plus followers. People
are going to be invested in her and tuned in.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That's what I And she's on her other reality show.
People do watch that, so they'll come.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Over, right, That's what I'm saying, just.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
As well Bachelor will go over.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah. I think I think it's a bold move y franchise,
but I think it's a great move I think I
think change is good. I think sometimes people fight change,
and you know, they people say we want change, we
want change, and then you give them change, They're like,
we want to go back to you know, but I
am I obviously don't know her.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
She's obviously adorable. Oh yeah, young, beautiful and the men
coming on. When you have young children, it's a whole
different ballgame when you're dating somebody with a child. Maybe
they've reached out to men that age that might have
children as well.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
I don't know, right, but that's what I'm saying. There's
going to be so many facets of this show. I
think that are going to be something Bachelor has never done,
and I think people are going to tune in in
a big way to see how. I can't wait personally
hope that. I mean, I couldn't have mel so maybe
(03:09):
maybe I could get invested in Taylor and see how
her life goes.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh, I just hope we get to meet her live
and in person.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yes, Okay, well we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Okay, all right, now it's time to get into today's episode.
So let's bring in our guests. Everyone, please, Welcome from
Bachelor in Paradise and gen season of The Bachelorette. Hackem,
Hi hackm, my little tweetheart, Welcome back to Golden Hour.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
What so excited to see you?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Oh my goodness, of the love fest begins.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I'm telling you, I warned I wasn't on Paradise, but
you would not have gone home so soon. There would
have been.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Rumors it would have been the rumors would have been
affected me, you and Susan. I'm gonna tell you that
right now.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
We have chemistry like no other.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I just want to point out that Susan is in
a monogamous relationship. I was in Paradise dying to meet you,
and when you heard I was coming, you went home.
That's what happened.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I heard it. Damn you thought it was my choice.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
How was your experience, I want to hear tell.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Us about it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
My experience was short, but it was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Honestly, I got at it a long time, right to
get you were one of the first ones.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, it was. It was one of the first of
you know, And so I got my mind right, got
my body right. You know. I was trying my best,
and I you know, I was actually really nervous coming
into it as well. I really really nervous, But like
I was like, I'm gonna be one hundred percent myself.
They're gonna love me. They're gonna love me. If they
don't like me, they don't like me in a sense.
So like I went in and did the best that
I could was.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It what you expected? Hockey? Was it when you got there?
Was it what you expected?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Or in what kind? And what you feel like?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I don't know who was on the beach, what you
thought you were going to get when you got Obviously
you didn't think you'd go home so soon? But what now?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You know? Everybody wants the love story. I wanted the
love story. I wanted to be able to get on
one knee and propose to somebody. So that was always
the expectation, always kind of put you know, I'm always there.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I was there waiting for you. I came you just
God waits with me.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Don't play on my heart, don't play if loud to you?
Right now?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Who did you want to stay on the beach sit
besides me?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
For somebody to be there? And they weren't.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I mean, they were absolutely on the beach. But she's
she uh, she's in a relationship. Who is she, Parisa,
She's in a very happy relationship. So, like, I was
so excited to meet her, and literally twenty four hours afterwards,
she's on the beach, you know, So that was a dagger.
I at least wanted my shot to try to just
say hi and tell her how much I enjoy her
energy and how much I think she would be great
(05:54):
as a girlfriend. Obviously not right away being her girlfriend,
but I just she brings a lot to the table.
So again, like, yeah, she's amazing.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
I don't know, had the opportunity to tell her, did
you ever say anything?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
She wasn't there.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
I know, I'm outside of the show.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Outside of the show now because before I saw her
at STK Steakhouse for a grants ending of his season,
but I never chatted with her. I actually wanted to
keep it very platonic. I mean, I waved at her,
and she saw that I saw her, and so forth,
but I wanted to keep it very platonic before paradise,
you know, and so forth, so it doesn't seem like
I was trying to get to know her beforehand and
all that so forth. But yeah, I never got to
(06:33):
shoot my shot. All good though, It's not, like I said, like,
everything happens for a reason, and hopefully she's extremely happy
with whatever she's doing, because that's all that matters. But
my woman's out there.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Were you surprised about the five hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
He didn't know when he was there?
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Correct? Yeah, the five hundred thousand dollars, I had mixed emotions.
To be honest, I was super excited for him because
that's a lot of money, a lot of when I
got student loans that I got to pay off, and
you know, I would be very, very happy. But I
feel like it just changed the meaning of the show
though a little bitter. People started to be strategic, and
I'm like, what the hell are we being strategic on
(07:13):
a love show for We're trying to get married, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Hold on came, which would you have chosen? Then? Would
you if you had stayed around and you have coupled
up with someone, would you have chosen the money or love?
And if you couldn't choose both?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Oh, you couldn't choose.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
I don't know you can. I don't know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No, no, no. For sure, to be honest with you,
if I'm going down to the end and I'm getting
down on one knee or pick the money, I'm gonna
be honest, I'm probably gonna get down on one knee.
Here's the reason why is because like, you can always
earn five hundred thousand dollars, and I put myself in
a situation. I'm going to put myself in my brain
(07:50):
to say that I'm going to make that much money
in the future, and I can do that, but I'm
not going to sacrifice something that might be once in
a lifetime.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
That's not the way I got to expect that.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Money, Wait, my brain goes here. Okay, if you guys
are a couple and you speak about it, we're gonna
say I'm choosing the money on TV and I'll see
you afterwards. Do you think something like that could happen?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
How they got cameras on us everywhere inside our rooms outside?
You can't. You can't just be like a you know, like.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, but how came they can't when you go home?
If you choose the money, they can't stop you from
calling up, you know. I mean, I don't know what
the rules are, but you.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Know, maybe the rule says if you hook up with
that person when you leave, then you have to pay back.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I don't know, but I wanted that money too. But
if it came down to the end, like you know,
just had to pick, Like I didn't know you had
to pick love or the money?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Wait, is that what you have to do? I could
get because that's what you said.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You made it to the finale? How the hell you confused?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Because I I, what do you mean? Because I I
wasn't there for the very end.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
They planted a seed last week for the coming attractions
of this sweet coming next week. It's saying, maybe it's
the money, maybe it's for love. I don't know to
make a decision.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I believe, I believe you can have both. But wait,
I want to know, because you know, Mondy, it's boring
talking about money. Yeah, I want to know what you thought.
I know you didn't get to meet us, But what
did you think about Golden's being on the show?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
He does you the Goldens as a whole? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Well really, let's make it all about me.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
What did you think about let me let me let
me say this one more time, as a young bluck
buck that was on the Bachelor in Paradise. Without the
Golden we wouldn't have the viewership, We wouldn't know. You
held it down. Specifically, you you needed you were You
started a whole trend like yo, I need some tequila, yo,
and let me get a bottle of one, Like you
started a whole trend. We was born as fuck, I'm sorry,
(10:11):
I'm gonna bets. I'm just gonna be honest with you. You
guys held it down. There were stories for days that
were true and honest stories. Yeah, you had Gary, you
had Leslie finance, you had Kathy up there with Keith,
you had Kim, you had April out there cougar hunting.
They you guys brought a You guys, your energy unmatched,
(10:36):
And that's my biggest Obviously, I wanted to meet Parisa too,
because she's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
She is, and no, she's as sweet and kind and
smart as she is beautiful, and I think she's really that.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
But with when it comes down to you guys, I
really was so excited for seeing you guys, and I
never got to see you guys. And that literally hurts
so much because when I was watching one, obviously watch
it back when you guys came through and everyone's having
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You guys were so lit, I was jealous.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's God, we came, we came down fun. That's the
difference in our ages.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
We came. Guys all killed it and crushed it. And
you looked fire to Kathy. Let me tell you that
you look fire out there.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Keep talking, keep talking. I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I wait, tell you, I love it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Would you do Paradise again? Because you didn't?
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Yill no, hell no.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So wait I read somewhere that you crawled back into
your shell after filming. Is there any truth to that?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
And why all back into my shell when it came?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
If I'm going to go on a show, I wanted
to be very intentional. I feel like in this, like
now that I know like this five hundred thousand dollars
involved with it, it just changes the whole thing because
you're going to go into it like damn, I want
the money too. Like going into there, I was going
in and I'm thinking like, oh, they're gonna bring you know,
we're gonna bring all these girls because you know we
talked beforehand. They're gonna bring in like all these girls
(12:06):
that we talked about. So then I can really build
a connection. But then at the end of the day,
you forget it's a TV show too, and they're doing
their job by making great TV. And yeah, I'm thirty
one now I'm trying to find love. I would go
on a TV show, maybe like a competition game show
or something that's very intentional to find that person, their
person specifically, that's their So why.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Would you want paradise again?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, Kathy, come on now, I'm not I like Kathy.
Come on now, what you just on the Kathy like?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Come on, Kathy got to stay, so it's a different experience.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
You stay for what the five hundred thousand and then she.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Wait a second, I got to clear my name. Keith
and I said, and I think that's why the young
ones liked us so much, because we gave advice and
we were friendly and I love I love all y'all.
But Keith and I had said, and we meant it,
we are not taking money out of young's hands, I
said on last week's episode. Oh no, we had told them,
(13:10):
and we said on the odisode we said, well, it's
not that, It's just that at our age, relationships with
people is more valuable to us than putting money more
money in the bank. And you guys, you have college
loans to pay off. That's what I said about Alex.
She has college loans to pay off. You guys want
to buy your first house and that could be a
(13:31):
real big jump start. So Keith and I were not
taking money out of young kid's hands. It's not why
I stayed, That's not why Keith stayed. So now I'm.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Came quickly and left. You were there really quick, And look,
that has to be a lot because you prepare and
you can't wait to get there and have this experience
and then within this a second it's over.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I think the host point part was truthfully, that they
announced me that early and then like, none of the
girls that I was expecting to be there was there.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Who else? How am I going to do?
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Who else were you expecting?
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I was hoping Parisa, I was hoping Jojo was gonna
be there. She's with Sam m kinney. We love that
she's Sam McKinnie and all that. Let's see who else?
Who else? Who was? Honestly, I was really looking forward
to getting to know those two girls, and whoever came came.
Also Olivia Lewis I mentioned her way beforehand too, after
our mentell awe and all that good stuff. But yeah,
(14:39):
I mean, I'm not a person that's going to force it.
You know, I did it. I loved it. Bachelorette was
amazing and all that.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, wait a minute, do you believe you can find
love in Paradise.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh yeah, you see grocery Store Joe. And uh.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
So I'm saying, and so I'm asking you why if
you believe in love, you want to find love, why
wouldn't you do Paradise Again.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Well, grocery Store Joe didn't have to choose between five
hundred thousand dollars and love, you know, So that was
a whole different dynamic than so, like I can take
a girl down all the way to the final and
then she can say I actually want the money, So
you kind of just fire. You're playing with fire at
this point because now people are going to go on
the show for money too. So like that's why I
wouldn't want to do it, because I know I'm an
(15:28):
impath and I know I'm going to be hurt and
like for me, like yeah, like that's gonna Yeah. I've
been heartbroken before and it's taken me a long time,
and especially if I'm going to be engaged with somebody,
I don't I have never felt that type of heartbreak before,
and I empathize for all the men and women who have,
But like, I can never put myself in a situation
that you know, I.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Can I get solve this for you? What's I can
solve this? You go on Paradise again, if they ask you,
you find the girl, you fall in love. If you
don't win the money and she wants some money, Susan
will just send her a check for five hundred k.
You get the money, You get the money.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Is this new for every Paradise They're gonna know money?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Who knows. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
It might be something they just tried once.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Who knows.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, what did you think about the new way the
show was narrated and the way they did things now?
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I mean I'm not hating or nothing like that. I
just think personally for her team, I don't think I
can make that. I don't know if I'll be able
to be that vulnerable that I would have to trust
that someone's gonna pick me over five hundred thousand, Because
I know myself right, if I find somebody that's gonna
marry me, who's gonna have my children, all those things,
(16:46):
I'm going to do whatever I can, I'm gonna die
of headfirst in that. And I can't have the same
expectation that someone's gonna have the same type of mindset.
And that's why I would rather I mean, if I.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
Have to have trust, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
For sure chances, But how normal is it that somebody
has to choose five hundred K over you. It's not
a normal situation that you're gonna see every day. So
like that's the ultimate test, right, But like yeah, so
like for me, I would I don't. I don't blame
anybody who would want to take five hundred K. But
I don't want it to be at the expense of
my heart.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
To break somebody's heart. I hope it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Yeah, for sure, but it's it's it can happen.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Talk about hate mail?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, so wait, are you dating? Anyone came now?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Well, I'm looking forward to dating. I'm still not, But
I mean i'm dating, I'm trying. I'm like, I'm looking around,
I'm chatting, I'm not actively searching. I'm just focusing on
myself because if I'm not one hundred percent in tip
top shape, then how am I gonna be able to take
care of my lady?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
What kind of shape? What are you talking about? Mental shape?
What kind of shape are we have?
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Emotionally? I think I have to do better with my
emotional regulation. I think that's my last Like hurdle that
like I need to learn how to just let things
go and not you know, you don't have to say stuff,
you know, And I feel like with that, I feel
like there's a lot of things with me because I'm
a very in emotional dude. I wear my heart on
(18:12):
my sleeve and all those twins we've said this people
my language, no for sure, So like I just don't
take care of myself in relationships. I make sure to
take care of my partner in tenfold, and then I
don't have anything for me. So I got to love myself.
I don't think I say I love myself. I say
I'm confident. Yeah I think I'm a good looking dude,
(18:32):
But like, do I truly love myself? How much that
I love other people? Because I love other people because
I seek that validation that they need me, they want me,
they love me too, instead of just saying I'm going
to do this because I love them. Done.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Because if you're able to say what you just said
and you realize this, you're almost now tell me about
this model.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Thing, my model modeling modeling mode.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Right away, A model.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
With a model.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I walked at San Diego Swim Week. As you
probably I saw that thing that you were.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
It was bizarre.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It was I mean, I would say it was different, different, different.
I wouldn't wear it. Probably none of that's because I'm
not I don't got the swag like that.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
To be How did you feel? How did you feel?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
It was liberating because they had me there and they
were like the queen, just be yourself because I knew
going into this, I'm like, guys, I'm not sure you
know your your average you know, runway model. That's like
you know all that, you know me be me. I
was out there in the kwan, I was everybody was
(19:56):
enjoying it, but I can tell like the modeling coordinator
was like a little bit embarrassed, was like, oh my god.
But dude, the designers, the audience, they were lazy.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
How did that come about? How did they reach out
to you? How did that come about?
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Yeah, they reached out to me as an ambassador, and
I was like, you know what, you'll need somebody that
can walk. And then they're like you know what, yeah,
we got you, we got you. So then they pulled
the little strings got me in there. Aaron Bryant was
there too, Brandon Jones as well from brand Jolnes from
Michelle season. So yeah, it was, it was. It was
a great opportunity. I'm going to be doing another one
(20:31):
for charity as well, so I'm excited for that, you know. Fun.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, you know what, put it out there, maybe misright
or come and you know, just check you out.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Nah, you don't want to do that. I wanted to
be so organic that I'm like just taken by surprise,
like yo, like where did you come from? Like you
know what I mean, Like where have you been? Because
I throw it out there, he's gonna be here and
all that. Like, first of all, I'm a nobody, like.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Never never, never, never never.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I'm not Michael is Susan. What I'm saying though, is
is that like in situations like this, I want to
just run into my woman without it having to be tried.
Like I don't want to have to feel like I'm
trying to find her because every person that I've talked
with that's in a happy relationship happens when you're not
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looking amen every single time you're not looking for it,
and then it just happens. So I'm trusting that I'm
gonna just keep doing my thing. I'm gonna work on myself.
I'm going to try to put good into the world
and then she will hopefully all right, so I mean,
bless me.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
All right, So what what do you what are you
thinking for the rest of this world? What do you
the rest of yeah, the rest of the world, the
rest of this year. What are you manifesting for yourself? What?
Obviously Miswright's gonna compound your door down, your front door down,
But what else?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
My tip in.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
What else do I have? But I'm walking in another show.
I'm also going to be going to Vegas for this
an event. I'm gonna go with Brandon. Brandon's the man
Brandon from Michelle Sas and Brandon Jones, Like he's kind
of became like one of my close friends, Like when
I'm very close and he's just hooking me up because
(22:23):
you know, because he's Brandon Jones. So I'm just you know,
I'm just there, just you know, having fun there for
that event.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
So I want to see the event in Vegas.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
It's called Rise. I think okay, it's called Rise. I'm
not sure, if you know. I'm I really don't be
outside like that. I'm really in the crib watching TV.
So like if I get if I get invited some
fuck it. You want me to go to Vegas? Fuck it,
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Just remember what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Hockey.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
No, yeah, girl, all right, we gotta move.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
We are going to move into our topic of the
day because you were.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
I have one more things. I'm get here. Transplant. I'm
dead ass, I'm getting it. I'm going to Turkey and
I'm getting in here.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Trs just got back from Turkey.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
What Circe is?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
What we invited you? But you didn't answer the call
when we called somebody to leave it out here?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
You didn't. You don't have my digits, you know you really?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I can get your digits, trust me.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Won't you? I ain't even do something with it then.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So you're gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Do what?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The hair transplant?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Oh yeah, you're gonna see me. I'm a fresh cut.
I'm gonna have a forehead like it's so smart. My
forehead is about five in the bitches, I got a
five head. So when I'm gonna have that line to
go down had my line is so Chris, nobody's gonna
be able to say.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, okay, why Turkey? A couple of my clients did it.
One just supposed to be and he did it in
Florida's supposed to be the place for uh, it didn't.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
He got money money. He's doing it in Florida. You're
doing it in the States. He got money money. All right.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, if you need a nurse to take care of
you afterward, Kathy and I we know all about this. Themble.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh shit, I think I might take care of me
right now.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Keep literally keep your shirt eye. All right, we are
moving into our topic of the day before this degenerates
any further. All Right, Hockey, what do you find to
be more romantic Grant? I already know the answer this,
but I'm gonna ask you anyway. Grand gestures are small
everyday things?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
And why small everyday gestures or grand gestures? Which no,
every day small gesture not grand gestures. Yes, so I
don't think I don't need all the grand stuff and
all that. I want you to do things to let
me know that you're thinking about me. It doesn't have
to be you're taking me to Nobuo to get some sushi,
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like if you're just making my life easier. If I
got to go to work and you see, I'm in
the shower and my clothes aren't you know, my clothes
are crinkled, and you're like, hey, let me take care
of this real quick for you, or let me start
a coffee for you real quick. That makes me think that,
oh yeah, she cares about my well being and like
how I am feeling at this moment, not just trying
to get this grand gesture to be like oh wow,
you did such a great thing like blah blah blah blah.
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But she's actually that world.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I just love language, so you speak. Remember we talked
about love languages.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, no, that's exactly. We're all the same. I would
much rather have a small gesture and for exactly the
same reason I came. Just they're thinking about me, They
care about my welfare. Just that small thing of turning
on the coffee they care.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah, absolutely, are you coffee?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Bringing the calling to me is caring.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Bringing the coffee. You're right, that is such.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
A delight when that happens. It's not but sure, over
the times that I've been out and when someone does that,
it's like, oh my god, that's I do it for
people all the time.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Does your man do it for you right now?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Well? He does live in the States.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
So where does part of me? Where does he live?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
He lives in Saint Martin.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Saint Martin, French, West Indies. Oh oh Caribbean.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Ye never Actually, I always get up first.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
So yeah, hold on, you're dating a brother he Caribbean.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I was like, hold on, he's he's from French, from France,
there's Saint Martin has two sides, a Dutch side and
the French side.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Oh okay, okay, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
But I love your love language and Kathy, you you
like the small gestures too. For me, it's about attention
and physical touch, like when I'm in the room and
you just you know, touch me. I'm a touchy person too,
and everybody like I want all four of the love languages.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
A long time to learn that my partner didn't necessarily
have the same love language as I did. And I
never knew that. I always assumed what I like, I
would do for them, but that's not their love language,
you know. It took me a long time.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, no, for sure. It's taken a lot of failed
relationships for myself to realize that even my communication style
isn't the way other people want to be communicated to
as well. So yeah, now totally for sure with that, Kathy,
what is your thoughts You're are you a physical touch person?
You like to marry so I'm sleep Oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Some people like gifts, you know, I buy gifts, but
I don't necessarily need the gifts.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I just need I'm the same I I My thing is,
I like I like the small gestures. I mean, you
want to bring me a Porsche, I'm not going to
turn it down, but you know that's not my goal.
But yeah, just the and I'm very much honestly, It's
gotten into trouble sometimes with men who I'm not I'm
a touchy person, but yeah, they misread that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
No, I get it. I totally understand that if someone
is just laying down right, I wake up in the
middle of night and I just need to touch you,
just to Yeah, I don't know. How do you feel
about that? Is that weird?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Do you feel like because you know they're they're wanting
to be there?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You know, we had a question earlier I came about
on another podcast about sleeping in separate bets. I was like, no,
I like to put my cold feet on your back
and stay y has sleep apnea.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I got my own room.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
I'm sorry you ain't ship you age ship.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
No, you are.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
The Susan. They've come a long way. They now have
little things. They implanted your skin.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Everybody could get.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
All right again. We're gonna move on here to our
advice ports. You're gonna give some advice. I came already.
All right, We're gonna ask a question and you're just
gonna tell us what you think. All right, here we go.
This question is from Zach. He's twenty eight from Shorthills,
New Jersey. Hi, Kathy and Susan. My mom listens to
your podcast and she is also having trouble helping me
(29:31):
with this situation, so she told me to write in.
I've been dating my girlfriend for about five months now,
and this is actually my first real relationship. Overall, I'm
really happy and honestly just excited to have found someone
I connect with. The only problem is my best friend,
who also happens to be my roommate, doesn't like her.
(29:52):
He's constantly pushing for quote guys' nights where she isn't invited,
and he makes me feel guilty if I choose to
spend time with her or have her sleepover. When I
asked him why he feels this way, he told me
he thinks she has quote controlling vibes and that she's
not the right person for me. This has been tough
because he and I have been close and through her
(30:13):
little kids, and I really value his opinion. At the
same time, I care about my girlfriend and just want
him to be happy for me. I'm stuck between wanting
to honor a lifelong friendship and also wanting to explore
this new relationship. How do I balance both without losing
one or the other?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
How old does he say? He's twenty seven, twenty eight,
twenty eight? He a grown ass man talking about he
wanted him to come over boys and night. If he's
trying to get to know a woman and you're telling
him he's in t shit, feel guilty because he's spending time,
he's tripping, his friend is tripping. If that's really, I'll
be damn facts. I'll be damn if one of my
homies is like, man, you know you gotta, you know,
you gotta, You've gotta make time for us, you know.
(30:52):
And I think she's super controlling, Like I know what
I'm getting myself into as well, Right, I can stand
on business and so forth and so forth. I don't
need another person tell him that. Yo, Like, we don't
want you dating this person. So Zach, you need to
just go follow through with this, you know what I mean?
So like, in this whole situation, you're not in the wrong.
There's nothing for you to balance. I think the only
thing that needs to balance something is your homie. He
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needs to balance the fact that he needs to know
that his friend is still his friend, but he's exploring
a connection, so you better does he say it?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
But Hakem, does he come out and say it to
his friend? Because remember this is Zach's first real relationship,
so he's probably, you know, a little unnerved by the
whole thing, and he doesn't want to lose his childhood friend.
And he's probably I mean, you know, you're a man
about the world, you've been out about, but this guy
is never dated. This is first relationship. He doesn't want
to so what's gonna I'm gonna keep him both.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
He adds something to that before you answered, Hakim, and
I agree with what you said, but I try to
keep an open mind. What if because it is his
first real relationship, he's got his blinders on and he's
gonna lun the hard way answer and her and his
roommate sees it like it could be.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
It could be, but he's gonna learn. He's got to
learn his own lessons own.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I think the roommate's jealous. He's gonna lose a roommate.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I truly just think that in that situation he just
is jealous one or be just bored because some of
the time that he was getting with Zach is now
being in a woman that he doesn't like as well.
And truthfully, it's no one's business if she if he
has his blinders on or not. In my point of view,
(32:34):
I think in the in this grand scheme of everything,
if he's happy in that relationship and that is your
best friend from childhood, you want to him to augment
his his happiness. So and she's doing that, Like, why
would you be upset with that? And if that person
stops being your friend, that wasn't your friend.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Okay, but I'm gonna I gotta ask you. I know
not I totally agree with you, But what you're not
saying is how does he handle the situation? Does he
goes to his friend and says, hey, homide fill in
the blank. What does he.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Say out, stay in your laying, biting bitch.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
She's talking to his roommate.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
What is wrong in the big Honestly, if it comes
down to it, he should just say to him like, hey, like,
I know you're feeling some type of way about this
whole situation.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
I mean' not a big fan of my current girlfriend,
but hey, this is my first relationship ever and I'm
feeling great in this relationship. And I know you're not
a big fan of her, but right now, unfortunately, like
I feel like I want to keep progressing things and
I want you to be a part of that. So
like for me exactly there in space. I love it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I hope you heard us.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, And if listen and hockey, if bobeling doesn't work
out or whatever else you're doing, you could become a
therapist for young stupid boys.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
That's hilarious. Therapist, Like I could see a coach. I
could be a coach and like, yeah, just a life coach.
And just like worried about things that actually matter. I
think we worry about things that don't matter so much
more than you know, the small stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
All right, Hockey, we we've asked you a lot of questions.
Do you have anything you want to ask us? You know,
we know you better. Do you want to know? What
do you want to know? Open the floor? What do
you what do you know?
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Are you doing right now? Kathy? What's going on?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Oh? Just stab me? Just stab me? Stab me?
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You asked me, she makes friends.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I would love to be dating, but I'm not. But
you know, someone, Kathy, you are fine.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Don't don't do that. Don't make itsull. You know somebody,
there's men out there that they see you and they're like, damn,
she's tough, like they want to talk to her so like.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Hockey they do, and it just so happens that that's
not her person, right Kathy, there's somebody trying to get
her right now and.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Right now no listening to your podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Oh listen. He's a nice guy. He and I are
on separate politically. We're not aligned. There's no huh. The man,
the guy that's and that would like to date me,
we are not politically aligned.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
We're not.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
We don't like to do the same things. I mean,
you know, he said to me, you're beautiful, I want
to date you. Well there's you know, thank you but
you know so, no, I would love I don't. I
don't have a spark for him. I would love I
have a friend spark for him. I would love to
find someone to date, but it's not as easy I came.
(35:33):
Here's the thing. Women reach out to men from Golden
Bachelor and and Golden Bachelor. At the men get reached
out to because women are on social media. Guys in
their sixties, they are not on social media for the
most part, and they don't know how to. They don't
have Yeah, so I got a problem. So if you
(35:54):
can solve that for me, I'd be, I'd be I'd
be I'd be.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Very greats for you. I can absolutely do that. Be
the middle man for you. That's gonna be easy, money easy.
So you have non negotiables, clearly we see here. What
else are your other non negotiables for you that you're.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Like, I actually have very few non negotiables. I want
I want a guy that will travel with me. I
want a guy that will make me laugh. You know,
everyone says you're I'm so funny, and I make them laugh.
I want someone that makes me laugh. I want to
have fun with someone. I would you know, he's got
to understand that I'm not a great cook. Like I'm
(36:29):
not going to sit there and not a great cook.
I can cook, I can't cook. I don't I don't
want to cook. I want something.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I want. I want to be real.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
I can't cook.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
I want somebody.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
I want somebody.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
She can play golf and she's super super smart. She'll
figure out anything. She'll write you a letter or an email,
I mean, brilliant. But when it comes to the kitchen,
I cann't cook. So I want somebody who likes adventure,
who's fit. I'm not looking.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I want here's the problem, hakm And I'm just then
and then we're gonna put this whole podcast to rest.
I am seventy two years old, but I have the energy.
All my friends are in their forties and fifties and
they can't keep up with me. So there's a big
disconnect there.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Guys want you know it's it's it's worried about the number. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Wait, So for the energy wise, are you meaning like
your sex drive or just meaning like going out wise?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
All of this physically shape, I'm in great shape, you
know all of it. I have energy for everything. And
you know, men look at the number and go.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Note, she says, might say your famous line, I don't
want to used to guy.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
I don't want to used to guy. You know what
he used to guy? Is uh hakma used to guy.
He used to play tennis, he used to ski, he
used to travel, and now he sits his ass on
the sofa. That's absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Got it, got it, definitely understand. But I think the
age is nothing but a number. Truth. I'm being honest.
You see shere, She's phenomenous, she's she's she's not real,
She's not real.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
That's about me.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
You are literally beautiful, basically basically what I'm saying. You
are literally phenomenal inwardly and outwardly. You are literally gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
You gotta think for Susan, so I don't know what
to say.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
It's just chemistry, Kathy, you can't make that.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Shut up. Yeah, I mean Susan is like Susan and
I he's just Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
It was instant the day I met you, it was like, wow,
she was stiff. Freeze could hurt my feelings at times.
People's negative comments on my Instagram accounts like why did
they say that?
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Why are you so mean to me? And also Kathy truthfully,
I have a huge crush on Chris Jenner as well
and Susan. Susan is literally.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Like, excuse me, have you seen Chris General lately? They
look nothing alike anymore.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
She's gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
She looks like they don't look alike anymore. I'm serious.
I love you, Susan.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
That's ships I need is like cheeken plants or something.
But I love Chris.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yeah, she's gorgeous. Okay, well gorgeous. What's up? You got
you kicking me out?
Speaker 2 (39:20):
It's about time here, it's and I just want to say, Hakeem, yeah,
after we get off this podcast, you better get before
you crawl in her shirt. You better go find me
a guy.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Okay, Okay, With that being said, that does it for
this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Thank you all, Thank you, Hakeem, Thank you all for
joining us, and be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour
as we have new episodes coming out every week and
you don't mind to miss even.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And we promise each and every one of you we
will have him back on here. Make sure to submit
your questions to us, and you can go to Bachelor
Nation dot com slash Golden Hour or you can hit
us up on social at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah.
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Serena Pitt
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