December 26, 2024 • 44 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re back for our final “His Story” episode, featuring Jack and Kim from “The Golden Bachelorette”! We kick off the episode with former naval captain Kim. Kim gets into his experiences throughout his career, his journey with Joan, and dating as a widower. We also get to know what special opportunity going on the show brought Kim, as well as who from the Golden franchise he might have his eye on! Then, we have Jack on to talk about his life as a retired chef still cooking it up in Chicago. We hear more about his journey to the show and what’s to come for him. Tune in to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bechler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We are back with another round of his story and
we have this week we are going to have Kim
and Jack on in. Currently, right now we have Kim here, So, Kim,
welcome to Bechler Happy Hours.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The Mansion Man himself.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So, Kim, do people come up to you on the
street singing the Mansion Men.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
They haven't sung it to me yet, but they have
mentioned it when they've approached me, and so it's nice
to be acknowledged for having offered that to the Bachelor Nation. Folks.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It's become like the anthem of your season, like the
theme song. And it was really impressive when you and
Guy sung it to Joan in the episode. But then,
how did it feel seeing at the Mentell all the
big performance.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh, that was such a shock to see the Gay
Men's Chorus from La come out and form ranks like
a military group and sing that song, the entire song,
and they did it so well. I was more than surprised,
it was. It was a shock, a very pleasant shot.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Have you have you always written songs? Is that something
that you'd like to know I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Not a songwriter. I kind of like poetry, and I
tend to be creative anyway, but I'm not musical and
I'm not musically talented, although I could whistle really well
but didn't have a chance to display that on the show.
But I'm not really musical. I do write poetry once
in a while, and then I try to find a
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little tune that fits the words, and once I get
the tune, and then I'm trying to fit more words
to the tune. And anyway, it worked out really well.
I was just I'm glad it worked out as well
as it did. And it was just intended to be
a little fun thing, a way to pass the time,
something to do in the mansion, And got all those
hours there with with not a lot to do when
(02:05):
you don't have a date a date with Joan, and
so I filled the time with just amusing myself and
and I wanted to showcase the experience of the guys
in the mansion, because I don't think that gets told
all that well.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So yeah, I feel like you can't say that you're
not musical anymore though, because you really did write an
entire song that was performed.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
By millions of people. People know that song.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, you have a hit.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
First, I have a hit. The show has a hit.
The show, the show owns the song.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I wonder if the men that didn't want to perform
it with you in the mansion are regretting it now.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I don't think they're regretting it. But it was nice
to see him join in at the mentel hall and
they all, I mean they were high five and me.
They were They were really happy for me, and I
think they were really happy that the you know, the
song got some extreme publicity. And it's their story. It
is their story. It's the story of all of us
that got to live in the mansion for a few days.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Or you are a retired Navy captain.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
That's correct, And how long tired navy captain?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
How long did you do that for?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I was on active duty for twenty seven and a
half years.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
What was your favorite part about that job?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Oh? Gosh, I had a lot of favorite parts. What
mattered most to me? I mean, I had a couple
of great jobs. And when you're captain of a destroyer,
it doesn't get any better than that in terms of
your career. To captain a ship much like John Paul
Jones did two hundred and fifty years ago. It's the same,
it's very much the same. But what I got the
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most satisfaction out of as a as a fairly senior
leader when I was in a position of authority, was
having the opportunity to influence the careers of younger folks,
of the people coming up and never underestimate the impact
of what you say or do when you're a senior
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leader and how that affects younger people. And my definition
of leadership is facilitating the success of those you lead.
And that's what I'm most proud of having done in
my Navy career is I grew a lot of really
great leaders for our navy and our nation. I felt
good about that. I don't miss being in the Navy.
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I do miss and maybe it came across on the
show occasionally too. I do miss some of the discipline
and organization and and the you know, how quickly people
respond to you when you when you're in a position
of authority and you give an order and things just happen,
and so I miss that. But I don't miss the Navy.
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The Navy was part of my life. It ended that
you know, my navy time ended twenty one years ago.
Now I've been retired for twenty one years, and I'm
about looking you know, looking forward, looking ahead, and not
looking back. I have great memories and great shipmates that
I served with that I'm still real good friends with.
But the focus needs to be on the future. And
(05:20):
so that's what I'm That's kind of what drove me
to be on the show, is look into the future.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, ask so this, So these past twenty one years,
do you have are you just retired? Do you have
another job? What do you what do you what have
you been up to?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Right? So I'm not I'm not working now. I retired,
well three and a half years ago, retired, retired. But
nobody's able to just retire right out of the military.
You don't make that much money in retirement, and so
almost everybody has to get a job, and I did.
I did a couple of different things for a few years.
Spent the last eleven of my working years with a
(05:58):
major manufact era space manufacturing company in the Pacific Northwest.
I'll mention the name, but most people know who that is.
And I retired from there three and a half years ago.
And now I am fully retired, and it's such a
great job being retired.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
You like it, I love it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I love it. And the best part of being retired
is having the time and the means to say yes
to things that you had to kind of put on
hold when you were when you were working. And the
thing you had to put on hold most that matters
most to me is foregoing opportunities to visit with friends
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and family and shipmates all over the country. And so
for the last three and a half years, that's how
I spend most of my retired time as I travel
cross country and stop and see family, friends, shipmates that
I had to, you know, forego seeing for all those
years that I was working. And now I got a
whole bunch of new new friends to go visit to
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my mansion men.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
All over You do you should just sell your house
and travel twenty four to seven at this rate, You've
got a lot of people to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I have given that some some thoughts.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Or do you work out? Do you work out every day?
I mean, you're sixty nine, you look incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, I just had my seventieth birthday two months ago,
so I'm seventy now seven, I'm pretty pretty proud to
get to that big Now it's a big number.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Seven.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You do not you do not like seventy all.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I appreciate that very much. I don't go to a gym.
I do a lot of isometric stuff. I'm doing a
lot of push ups every day, and I walk or
run or jog or do something. I'm just staying active.
Amaze you amazing how many calories you can burn gardening.
And so I do a lot of different things, but
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I don't. I don't work out for workouts sake.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay to say, how did you wind up on the
Golden bats are at?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah? Very good question. So last year in October, the
Golden Bachelor was on. I didn't watch it. The only
reason I even knew anything about the show was because
they were putting ads during the college football games I
was watching, and so the trailers were showing up, and
so I was aware there was a show, but I
(08:28):
wasn't all that interested in watching it. And I read
an article online about one of the cast members leaving
the show early, and I thought, well, that's interesting. That
told me two things about the show. One, maybe the
people on the reality TV show are real people. I
wasn't really sure about that, but they're real people. And
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the other thing it said was a lot about jones character.
She's the one that left to take care of her
to be with her daughter in a tough time, and
to forego fame, fortune and the chance of love to
to take care of a family member. Said a lot
about the person she was. And so two weeks later
there was another article that said Joan was trying to
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get back on the show and she couldn't. And at
the bottom of that article was the opportunity to apply
to be on a future version of the show, either
a Golden Bachelor or Golden Bachelorette. So I build out
the application.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Wow, interesting, Yeah, you're the first guy to do that.
And you didn't watch, ever watch the show prior.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I did not watch any of the Golden Bachelor series
until two days before I flew to la to start
filming the Golden Bachelorette. And I wanted to get a
better idea what to expect, and I wanted it fresh
in my mind. So I binge watched it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Got it, And so you really were you really went
on the show for Joan?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Well, I want on the show for Joan.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
I knew.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I didn't know when that Joan was going to be
the Golden Bachelorette until well into the casting process. But
I went on the show in all honesty for three reasons,
none of which were I didn't have the expectation that
I was actually going to fall in love with the
Golden Bachelorette in a short period of time like that,
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there's a lot of other guys competing. The odds just
aren't there, So I didn't set that as a as
an expectation. It would have been great if it happened,
but I didn't have that as an expectation. The expectations
I did have were that I wanted the adventure. You know,
I may be retired and I may be old, but
that doesn't mean that you're not interested in adventure and
being on a TV show like that would be an adventurous, fun,
(10:51):
interesting thing to do, and so I did it for
that reason. I did it because if all my friend's family,
anybody who ever has met me would get such a
kick out of seeing me on TV because it's so
out of character for me, you know, retired Davy cap
and guy, to go and be on a reality TV show.
So I knew that they would have an awful lot
of fun. I'd bring a lot of smiles to a
(11:12):
lot of faces if I did it and actually showed
up on TV. The third reason I did the show,
and the most important one, it really has to do
with my late wife, Mary died seven years ago. Before
she died, she asked that her cancer story be shared
with as many women as possible. And because it's a
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story of late detection, misdiagnosis, late treatment, all of which
probably shortened her life, and so she wanted her story
told that. You know, women get a second opinion, don't
necessarily trust the first doctor, get another one to look
at it, make sure you listened, to be in tune
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with your body, all the important things that women need
to know. She had a very in cancer, which is
a very unforgiving cancer when it's found late. So I thought, well,
if I did on the TV show, I might get
a chance to share Mary's story on TV. Well, I
didn't get that opportunity, but I figured if I at
least make it a couple three episodes, then there will
(12:19):
be people who want to get to know more about me,
and they'll go to my website, they'll go to Facebook,
They'll go to Instagram, and they will learn Mary's story.
And all three of those expectations I've laid out, they've
all happened in a wonderful way. And Mary's story has
been shared with the right audience. Ninety percent of my fans,
(12:39):
I guess are women, and they've been very appreciative of
the story I shared on Instagram about my life.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Was it meaningful to be able to connect with Joan
and the other men there that had also experienced losing
a spouse?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, good, good question. The best part of being on
the show is the was the opportunity to connect with
people in a similar circumstance. And it isn't just those
that were widowers and and Joan of course as a widow,
but even the single guys that were that had been divorced.
I have a lot of male friends my age, they're
(13:17):
all married, and so the TV show The Golden Bachelorette
gave me the opportunity to to talk with visit with
share stories with people in my same circumstance. And I
hadn't had that opportunity, and it's it was. It was
a wonderful experience. Uh And and one of the things
that bonded us us together and we're still good friends.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
How do you think that's impacted your life today and
how you live?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I have you can never have too many friends, and
having a cadre of uh, you know, fraternal brothers who
have had the same experiences I've had and they're the
same age group is me, and and that that has
enriched my life. Their stories have enriched my life. Getting
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to know these guys. Spending twelve hours a day, about
twenty four hours a day for several days with these guys,
you built real close bonds. And that's one of the
things that that I miss about being in the Navy
is how close you get with the people that you
go to see with and experience challenging things with. All
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of us guys in the mansion experienced the same adventure
and had similar backgrounds, and so those friendships are enriching
and they're there and they're long lasting. I mean, we've
got a we've got a group. Tech's been going on
all day to day.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Ye birthday, rights birthday.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We're all wishing him well. He's only sixty two, though
he still a kid, still a young guy.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
During your time on the show, what was your relationship.
Like with Joan, it was brief.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I didn't get that I didn't get that much time
with Joan. But the time that we did have to
sit together and chat together, I felt that we did
connect over the things that we haven't come the fact
that we both lost our spouses at a young age,
you know, much younger and much earlier than we ever
(15:31):
thought would be the case, both to cancer, her husband
to pancreatic cancer, my wife to a variant cancer. But
they were both in their fifties, you know when they died,
or he might have been sixty, but way too early.
I mean, you don't. That's not something you expect is
going to happen. You know, you expect you're going to
have another twenty years together with this person. And so
(15:53):
we connected on that basis. Family is awfully important to
both of us, and so she's got children and grandchildren.
She has four children, I have four children. She's got
three grandchildren. I've got four grandchildren. We both have degrees
in computer science. What are the odds that two people
our age have degrees in computer science? Joan is a
(16:16):
very smart woman. In addition to being beautiful and personal,
she's she's a very bright lady, and so we had
we had a lot of things to connect with and
I hope we'll continue to be friends. She reached out
after the last show and shared her email and phone
number with me, and and I hope we get a
chance to visit together again. Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
What has are you? Are you ready to date? Are
you dating? What's dating life like for you now?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah? A good question. Yes, I'm I'm ready to date.
I didn't date at all for five and a half
years after Mary passed away. It just I don't know.
I just wasn't that interested in doing and that, plus
I was still working and busy. And then once I
retired and made my first cross country vacation trip driving,
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I realized and did some overseas travel, I realized how
much more enjoyable it would be to have a romantic
companion with me. And so I've dated a little bit.
I am dating now, but there's no I'm not in
a relationship at this point, and so I'm still I'm
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still dating. Was not a lot, a little bit here
and there.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What's the ideal situation or woman for you and your
life currently? What are you looking for?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I'm looking for someone who is independent, someone who doesn't
need a guy, need someone, but wants someone because I
feel the same way. I'm not looking to to I
don't have a need that I need filled. I want
to be with somebody. It's not that I need to
(18:05):
be with somebody. I would like to have someone to
be with, and I would hope that person would feel
the same independent. I'm not looking for somebody who wants
to be somebody else's dependent, So I like an independent person.
I think I would have more in common with a
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with a widow. But you know, I think it would
take a very special woman who's not a widow divorce
a to accept the fact that if she were to
date me seriously and get serious with me, she'd have
to appreciate that I'm still in love with my late wife,
because you don't. There's a big difference between being divorced
(18:48):
and losing your spouse. But there are very you know,
I'm sure there's a you know, very special women out
there who are divorced who can appreciate that and still
uh and respect that and honor it.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Are there any women from the Golden Bachelor that have
caught your eye?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yes, But I haven't had the opportunity yet to meet
with them. I uh, that hasn't happened. As specific person
I would would like to meet and talk with is Nancy.
I'd like very much.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
We like Nancy, Yeah, well I would.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
She seems awfully nice. I didn't know very much about
her until she actually appeared on a couple of the
last episodes of our show as part of Joan's support network,
and a very important part it was. And so I
got a chance to see how you know, the kind
of person she is. And in addition to being beautiful,
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she she impressed me with her her sensitivity to Joan
and her supportive nature and and yeah, I mean she.
I don't know what her marital status was, you know,
coming into the show, I had no idea, but I'd
like to learn more about her. And I haven't Nancy.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Nancy single, Nancy single, So you should.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
You should reach out last time, last time we spoke, Nancy,
she was single, she was dating, she was single.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Well, then we have that in common. I don't know,
maybe you can fight. I don't know how to get
in touch with her, but I was hoping the show
would help facilitate that, but I haven't. That hasn't happened. Yet,
So I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
To ask Joan for her number.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That is a great idea.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I will do that. Yeah, I will do that. I'll
reach out to Joan. It's been awfully busy lately. I
don't know how much time she has.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
She has time. She loves being matchmaker.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I feel like she she's a good matchmaker and she
likes to do it so well.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
If Nancy's not available, I feel like Joan could like
be like, but I have this person or this person
that you might like.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What are you What are your thoughts on Joe and
Chock together?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I'm thrilled for both of them. Little. I got the
impression early on when Chock came back from his Disneyland
date with Joan, he very much seemed to be smitten
with her, absolutely smitten with her at that point, and
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the fact that Joan chose him for the first one
on one out of eighteen guys certainly said that there
was a very strong attraction that she had for him
or to him, and so I'm not the least bit
surprised that those were the two left standing at the end,
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or one kneeling and one standing at the end, and
so I'm thrilled for both of them, and I wish
them all the best, and I hope they you know,
when they do decide to have the wedding, that they'll
invite some of the Mansion men to come as well.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Do you have any plans in the future to hang
out with any of those guys?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Nothing specific, However, I am traveling and I'm in currently
in the state of Florida, and two of the guys
live here, and I've reached out to them. I actually
talked to them about it at the Mentel Hall told
him when I was going to be in Florida, and
there's a good chance that at least one of them
will be home, and I'm planning to go see them
in January. So I'm going to be in Florida for
(22:29):
another couple of months except for going back for Christmas
with my kids in Seattle, so I'm definitely going to
be seeing them. I'm hoping to see Mark as I
cross As I drive cross country to California, I hope
to stop and see Mark in Louisiana. And then when
I get to California, there's like three or four guys
in California that I hope to connect with. There's not
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a single one of these guys in from the mansion,
Among the mansion men, there's not one of them that
I wouldn't love to hang out with, go have dinner with,
stay at their house if they let me. They're all
just wonderful human beings.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So's so great. It's so nice that you guys all
come out of this with a new community of people
to connect with and hang out with. But thank you
so much for coming on, Kim. It was so great
to chat with you and meet you.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Very nice to meet both of you.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, and to.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
All of our listeners, thank you so much for tuning
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Speaker 1 (23:28):
Thanks and thank you, Kim. Bye, Jack, Welcome to Bachelor
Happy Hour. How are you?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I'm doing great. How about you?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I'm doing good. I'm doing good. So you're you're a
Chicago guy, Huh?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
I am. Actually I'm in northwest Indiana now, but born and.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Raised in Chicago, well part southeast side, as far east
as you can go.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm from Melrose Park.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Ah. We're the Italians. Yeah, well, the Italians hang out
in Melrose.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, that's true, that's true. I saw you you were
cooking some Italian Are you Italian?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I am Italian ZIONI yeah a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Uh yes, I heard you were the cook in the house.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Actually tonight I'm cheffing for one hundred and twenty women.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Okay, well, yes, I'm doing a fancy menu.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
I'm finishing it up with bananas foster and doing underlining medallions.
I'm doing a butternut squash soup this start. Yeah, I'm
doing a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
So so you're so you're a cater. Did you ever
own a restaurant?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
I did. It was in the Lindwood, Illinois.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Okay, okay, what type of restaurant was it.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It was called Lencionis and it was kind of a
bar with a mini casino, two hundred seat banquet room
in the back.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Yeah, it was. It was. It was a heck of
a joint.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
But let me tell you that that's a big operation.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sounds a little like ken little a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It's the restaurant business is not an easy one, right.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Right right, That's why I got all them bags in
my eyes.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
What how did you So how did you wind up
on the Golden Bacherrett?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
You know, I had an ex girlfriend that actually sent
me an application and then it was I forgot. I
think it was long, and it was it was actually
I filled it out one night when I had quite
a few cocktails.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
That's the way to do it, that's the best way
to apply a little tipsy was what's your cocktail of choice?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Mine is an old Fashioned or Bourbon on the rocks,
whichever one I decided that day.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
And what is your what is your goal? Like, if
you're going to really impress a woman, what is the
dish that you're making?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
The one I'm doing for this undred and twenty women tonight,
I'm tenderloining medallions with a Bordelais sauce, asparagus with a
Hollandaise sauce, and pipe garlic mashed potatoes.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And if you're choosing where to eat, where are you going?
Where does the chef eat?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
If I'm choosing where to go, I'm going to a
place called Livio's.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
It's a small what do you call it?
Speaker 6 (26:23):
It's not a chain restaurant, It's a local restaurant that
has phenomenal Italian food.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
What have you been to Lascarrola?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I have right by my daughter's house. My daughter lives
in the city.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, what did your daughter think about you going on?
How many kids do you have?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
I have two children, my daughter Gina and my daughter Jamie.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
What did they howld are they.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Twenty thirty eight, thirty eight and thirty five?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
What did they think about you going on the show?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
In the beginning, they didn't like it.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
It was because my ex wife didn't like it because
she never knows what I was gonna say, you know.
But uh, but after they realized that I got half
a brain and that I was going to do this
the right way, and and and I and they like,
they love it now. Actually they came down for the
(27:15):
men's tello. Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So going back to the house, just going back to
your your first day, well, how familiar with How familiar
were you with the Bachelor in general?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Not at all?
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I mean I had never saw I saw it actually,
and I told people listen, I almost apologized for it
because I saw it for the first time about two
weeks before I went there. So because they don't tell
you right away that you're going, you know, so I
ended up that.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Was what I did.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm not shocked. I would have assumed you didn't watch
the show.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yeah, And I'm just not gonna lie. It's just you
know a lot of people and is it Is it
interesting now?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
I mean it's it's amazing now because there's a correlation
between you know, the stuff that I did.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Did your daughter's watch it before you went on?
Speaker 5 (28:19):
My Yes, yes, my my one daughter did the other daughter.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Didn't you give you any advice?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Yeah? Watch what you say, dad I have.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I mean that's what I mean if my if my
dad was going on, that's exactly what I would say.
Watch watch what you say. Okay, So you step out
of the limo that first uh, that first day, What's
what's going through your head? What do you How do
you feel about Joan?
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Because Joan was the most beautiful person and inside and out,
and when I got out.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Of the limo, all I wanted to do was impress her.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
And of course I sang coming out of the limo, which.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Was a little different than you know, the other.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
People, and uh, actually not bad for you know, doing
that acapella stuff and h coming out of the limo
like that.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah, it actually I thought it came out as.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You sounded good? You sound do do you sing like
when you're catering? Do you do you go out there
and sing a little Frank Sinatra?
Speaker 6 (29:28):
You know, I don't do it necessarily, kind of keep
those two worlds separate, you know, because you know, the
cooking is very whatever, and then the singing is kind
of my fun thing to do.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Now, did you have a meeting Joan? Did you have
a connection with her?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
You know, we really didn't have a connection.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
And because of the fact that you know, you really
don't get as much time in the beginning that you
want with her, you know, and and so I'm.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
In that way. No, I did not. I didn't have
time to.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Impress her with my Uh, I don't know with anything.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Well I did. I cooked the dinner, cooked nice, saying
to her, so what the hell? Well, I mean, what
else could you do? You know?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
What was that dinner? Was that a veal chop that
you made? I don't remember.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
No, that was tenderline Medaian's. It was very similar to
what I'm doing tonight. And then with the you know,
with the bordelat sauce, it's, uh, you can't go wrong
with that. If you don't like filet mignon with a
little uh Bordelet sauce on it, a little asparagus.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
But Island days, it's you don't like.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Anything sounds really good. It's making me hungry.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, I'm actually starting. What was the battle? What was
the battle on the grill between the burgers? Chris?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Chris barbecue sauce.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
A nice guy. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
No, No, I was just saying he put barbecue sauce
on the burgers?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Or what did he put the.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Barbecue sauce on the burgers?
Speaker 6 (30:55):
And putting barbecue sauce on the burgers if you put
it on one is okay maybe, but not on all
of them because nobody's gonna eat them.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I mean, it's just but that's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I mean it is a bold move to throw roque
sauce on every single burger.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, but doesn't a lot of that get burnt off
on the fire?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
No? No, because they he put it on like cheese,
like at the end, you know where you're not flipping
it around and everything.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So what was your favorite part about living with all
these guys? And you're in your least favorite part.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
The camaraderie, the ability to meet these guys at this
age and have this whole separate group of friends. And
these guys they text every day and they you know,
a couple of the guys I talked to twice a week,
and yeah, I mean it just was a great, great
time meeting them and the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
I mean, you're you.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Know, you got the mansion, you got the pool, you
got cannon balls, it was all beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
What was it like seeing everyone you attended the mental
hall and after the rows? What was that like?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Oh, it's comical.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
I mean Charles was my roommate in my what do
you call it dressing room?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And I says, it's the first thing I go. And
I said, Charles, what did you do to your head?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
You know?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
And he and he said, you like Jack. It was
it was great. It was great to see Charles. It
was great to see all the guys.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Have you connected with any of the Chicago guys that
have lived in the city.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
You know, Pastel invited me for dinner last week. It
just didn't work out. And Jordan's Michael, I you know,
I talked to back and forth as far as texts,
and that's so we're supposed to get together in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yes, are you doing anything for the holidays? Pardon me,
are you doing anything for the holidays?
Speaker 5 (32:56):
No, I'm going to enjoy my family.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I had, you know, I had my grandkids, my daughter,
my ex, my everybody over for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
And it was a beautiful thing.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
It was you know that they came in about eleven
in the morning and then they left at about eight
o'clock at night, and it's great.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
How does your ex feel now about the show? Is
she she okay with it?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Now? After it's done, She's all good.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
She is a great lady, and she's just she's she's
fine with it now now, not before.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Wait, you said your ex sent you the application. It
wasn't your ex wife though it was an extra friend.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
It was an ex girlfriend. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Okay, how did that conversation go. Did she just say, hey,
I think you should sign up. I think you'd be
great for this, right.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Just about exactly what she said, you know what she said,
I think you'd be great for this. You know, fill
this out, you know, And and so I says.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Okay, And then I didn't fill it out. And then
one day I.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Think it was I don't know, snowing or something, and
I was at Libio's having a bourbon imagine that, and
then I just build it out, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Wow, Okay, So what is what? What is dating life
like for you?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Now? Comical? I mean it's it's wonderful, you know.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
I there's this really nice, beautiful lady named Kathy that
that I am dating a little bit, but not you know,
I mean, she lives in Florida.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
I live here.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
She actually was a fan of the show and sent
me something, you know, and I don't answer all them things.
In fact, I don't understand how to answer all them things.
Uh my daughter tells me if I got different things
because she kind of.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
My accounts because I don't know nothing about that stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, that's that's okay though, that's fine. Are you so
like when you like tonight you're catering a big party?
Do these people? Will these women know who you are?
From the show?
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, they're they're uh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
It's gonna be a thing.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I gotta do.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Tell you the funny story. So you know Chicago a
little bit, you know where Hensdale's at.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, yeah, I know, she got a lot of it.
I grew up in Chica. I mean I was born
and raised, you know. Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
So I'm in Hensdale walking down the street with this
girl on my first date with her, and all of
a sudden, this woman comes running out of the store
like frantically, and she yells, you're.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Jack from the Golden Bench, your.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Jack, and I yes, yes, I am. He you know,
I mean, you just don't know how to answer the stuff.
But like two minutes later, a guy pulls over in downtown,
you know, Hensdale, and he goes, hey, you're Jack from
the gold Man.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
I'm thinking of this is gonna be a weird date.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
I don't know how good hand, But after they had
calmed down, it was all good.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, I mean, it does not wrong with that. She
probably she might have liked that, you know.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Yeah, you know, I think in some ways she might hit,
But in some ways she's kind of yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Are you are you familiar with Oh, you're dating you're
kind of dating somebody? Were there any other women from
the Golden Bachelor that you were interested in?
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Chris, Christina is very nice lady. And you know, there's
and and Susan. I've talked to back and forth. You know,
she's a very busy woman, that Susan. I mean, she's
got she got a lot of stuff going on and
and uh, but she's a super nice lady, very intelligent
and a lot of very charming she is.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I wanna I want to go over to her house.
I hear she's a really good cook too. You guys
should get together.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Who do you think about her cook?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Well, you know, you got to remember I cooked for
thousands then, and you know I'd have to add it
up one time to find how many, you know, because
for forty years I had a thousand cee bank with
a hall and then oh no, that was actually for
only twenty eight years, but then I had the restaurant
and we had all these other banket all. So yeah,
(37:11):
so I cooked for quite a bit and done quite
a bit of different things.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Who'd you get your produce from?
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Back in the day it was called Baker produce and
Zanstra produce. But besides that, I got it from Conal's Foods, which.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Is another you know, like a Gordon food service type thing.
Got it.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, I used to be in the produce business.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
I used to work at the Oh you were in
a produce it worked on the water market.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yep, yeah, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Have you have you ever
been down there?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Oh yeah, back in the day, we used to go there,
you know, I mean like forty fifty years ago. That
was what you did. You went down and got the
best deal.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah. What what are some of yours? What's your favorite
memory from your time on the show?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Again? Uh, you know, meeting Joan was really cool.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Uh, the times with the guys in the pool we were,
you know, having tottails and and bus and and uh,
you know.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
The home mansion was. I enjoyed every bit of it.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
The only part that I didn't like, and I've said
this before, is that you know, they you got the
bunk beds, and I'm kind of clusted the phobic. So
the top bunk no good and the bottom bunk no
good because you see the top bunk, and so I
kind of slept downstairs. And the funny part about that
is because the first night I went and I said, Hey,
(38:38):
I'm going to go sleep outside, and one of the
guys said that's fine, but there's a lot of tarantula's
out there. And I slammed the door and I, okay,
where can I sleep? And so we found a couch
for me.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
We saw that you obviously you were at the metal
all but you also were at the after the final
rows for the finale.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
What did you think of that? And how do you
feel about Joan and Chock?
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I from the day one, I said that Joan and
Chock where Chock was going to be the winner because
and not to take anything away from me or any
of the other guys, but he was just he had
a lot in common with her. He was a super
nice guy. He's good looking, son of a gun. I
(39:23):
mean he I just.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Thought Chock was was the guy for the for the
to win.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, I think a lot of a lot of guys
feel that way.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, we heard there was a party after the finale.
Did you go, oh yeah, how was it?
Speaker 5 (39:39):
That party?
Speaker 6 (39:40):
That was like do you know what you know, back
when Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin or whatever used to
go to a Hollywood party, That's what that party was like.
I mean there was just like everybody's all over with
you know, Butler Style or Dervs.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Martinez, Manhattan is anything you wanted? You guy?
Speaker 6 (40:00):
There it was and and it was and I again,
it was very comical.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
They were like people wanted to talk to me there,
and I'm thinking to myself, I'm like a little Mickey
Mouse in comparison to these people. I says, but you know,
it was a ball and the place was gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
I mean, you were You weren't on the show for
that long, but you were a very When you were
on the show, you were one of the main main
focus points.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, people were surprised that you went home so early.
People weren't expecting that. We weren't expecting that either.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
You know. I wasn't expecting either, to tell you surprise,
And you know, I just figured that I might have,
you know, because when you.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Kind of act like I do, some people like it
and some people don't, you know. So I'm thinking maybe
there was a guy that you know, or whoever's making
a decision, because I really don't think Joan.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Wanted to get rid of me then early. But who knows?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
What was it you saw al this his last concert?
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Huh May second, nineteen seven, May second, nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
I was in the front row, was it?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Where was in Vegas?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
No? In Chicago at the Amphitheater, uh Antitheater? Yeah? Anyway,
So yeah, I was in the front row.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
And it was so funny because Alvis, you know, he
was always throwing scarves out and everything.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
So he threw a.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Scarf out and I got it, and this guy behind
next to me, my buddy, uh Cuba, he gave him
a pick. Well, there was some excuse me chicks and
behind us that wanted to pick and the scarves. Well,
he gave him the pick and he said, give him
the scy I said, giving him the scarves.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
Scar's staying with me. So I still have this scar.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You still have it?
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Oh? Yeah, wow?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
What do you think that's? Why do you think it's
worth anything?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Definitely don't know.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
I mean how could they tell. I mean, it's not
like he had his name on it or anything. I
guess they could do the DNA thing or whatever. But
you know, it's been god May Sex seventy seven, it's
got to be almost fifty years.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah. What brand is the scarf? Just a regular pardon?
What brand is the scarf? Is there anything?
Speaker 5 (42:15):
You know? I've never I don't even know if there's
a brand on there BG you know.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Wow, So you're hosting a dinner party tonight. Do you
think you'll ever fully officially retire and stop working.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
You know, some people ask me and they said, what
are you doing it?
Speaker 6 (42:31):
And I go, because, you know what, doing it once
in a blue moon is fine. Doing it every day
I'm under pressure. And that's why I sold the restaurant,
because you know, every day I was starting to think
we were a very busy restaurant, and I thought, you know,
I was under pressure.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
All that.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
I said, I ain't going to drop dead and never
get to spend that money I made. So that's why
I ended up quitting. But doing it once in a while,
I sure I enjoy it. Tonight's going to be a ball.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Nice. Nice, What are you any plans for Christmas?
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Christmas? Even my kids will come here and then.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
On Christmas Day. I'm not sure why I have thought
that fire ahead yet. Yeah, because I'm leaving for Florida
on the third of January. And then I take my
car and hear my sub and then dragged there with
my bicycle and golf gloves everything, and then I stay
a couple of months in Florida.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Nice, that's nice. What part of Florida.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
I'm in Treasure Island for a month and then Marco
Island for another month.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Nice. Good for you well, Jack, thank you, thank you
so much for taking the time out of your busy
day and hopping on Betry Happy Hour and talking to us.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
It was a great talking to both, to you and
you have a great Christmas.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
Merry Christmas to Bobia.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Thank you you as well to all our listeners, make
sure you tune in the Betch your Happy Hour and
download and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, we'll have more episodes coming your way. Thanks for listening. Bye.
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bechler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
We are back with another round of his story and
we have this week we are going to have Kim
and Jack on in. Currently, right now we have Kim here, So, Kim,
welcome to Bechler Happy Hours.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
The Mansion Man himself.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
So, Kim, do people come up to you on the
street singing the Mansion Men.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
They haven't sung it to me yet, but they have
mentioned it when they've approached me, and so it's nice
to be acknowledged for having offered that to the Bachelor Nation. Folks.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
It's become like the anthem of your season, like the
theme song. And it was really impressive when you and
Guy sung it to Joan in the episode. But then,
how did it feel seeing at the Mentell all the
big performance.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Oh, that was such a shock to see the Gay
Men's Chorus from La come out and form ranks like
a military group and sing that song, the entire song,
and they did it so well. I was more than surprised,
it was. It was a shock, a very pleasant shot.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Have you have you always written songs? Is that something
that you'd like to know I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Not a songwriter. I kind of like poetry, and I
tend to be creative anyway, but I'm not musical and
I'm not musically talented, although I could whistle really well
but didn't have a chance to display that on the show.
But I'm not really musical. I do write poetry once
in a while, and then I try to find a
(01:45):
little tune that fits the words, and once I get
the tune, and then I'm trying to fit more words
to the tune. And anyway, it worked out really well.
I was just I'm glad it worked out as well
as it did. And it was just intended to be
a little fun thing, a way to pass the time,
something to do in the mansion, And got all those
hours there with with not a lot to do when
(02:05):
you don't have a date a date with Joan, and
so I filled the time with just amusing myself and
and I wanted to showcase the experience of the guys
in the mansion, because I don't think that gets told
all that well.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So yeah, I feel like you can't say that you're
not musical anymore though, because you really did write an
entire song that was performed.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
By millions of people. People know that song.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, you have a hit.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
First, I have a hit. The show has a hit.
The show, the show owns the song.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I wonder if the men that didn't want to perform
it with you in the mansion are regretting it now.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I don't think they're regretting it. But it was nice
to see him join in at the mentel hall and
they all, I mean they were high five and me.
They were They were really happy for me, and I
think they were really happy that the you know, the
song got some extreme publicity. And it's their story. It
is their story. It's the story of all of us
that got to live in the mansion for a few days.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Or you are a retired Navy captain.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
That's correct, And how long tired navy captain?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
How long did you do that for?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I was on active duty for twenty seven and a
half years.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
What was your favorite part about that job?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Oh? Gosh, I had a lot of favorite parts. What
mattered most to me? I mean, I had a couple
of great jobs. And when you're captain of a destroyer,
it doesn't get any better than that in terms of
your career. To captain a ship much like John Paul
Jones did two hundred and fifty years ago. It's the same,
it's very much the same. But what I got the
(03:49):
most satisfaction out of as a as a fairly senior
leader when I was in a position of authority, was
having the opportunity to influence the careers of younger folks,
of the people coming up and never underestimate the impact
of what you say or do when you're a senior
(04:10):
leader and how that affects younger people. And my definition
of leadership is facilitating the success of those you lead.
And that's what I'm most proud of having done in
my Navy career is I grew a lot of really
great leaders for our navy and our nation. I felt
good about that. I don't miss being in the Navy.
(04:37):
I do miss and maybe it came across on the
show occasionally too. I do miss some of the discipline
and organization and and the you know, how quickly people
respond to you when you when you're in a position
of authority and you give an order and things just happen,
and so I miss that. But I don't miss the Navy.
(04:58):
The Navy was part of my life. It ended that
you know, my navy time ended twenty one years ago.
Now I've been retired for twenty one years, and I'm
about looking you know, looking forward, looking ahead, and not
looking back. I have great memories and great shipmates that
I served with that I'm still real good friends with.
But the focus needs to be on the future. And
(05:20):
so that's what I'm That's kind of what drove me
to be on the show, is look into the future.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, ask so this, So these past twenty one years,
do you have are you just retired? Do you have
another job? What do you what do you what have
you been up to?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Right? So I'm not I'm not working now. I retired,
well three and a half years ago, retired, retired. But
nobody's able to just retire right out of the military.
You don't make that much money in retirement, and so
almost everybody has to get a job, and I did.
I did a couple of different things for a few years.
Spent the last eleven of my working years with a
(05:58):
major manufact era space manufacturing company in the Pacific Northwest.
I'll mention the name, but most people know who that is.
And I retired from there three and a half years ago.
And now I am fully retired, and it's such a
great job being retired.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
You like it, I love it.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I love it. And the best part of being retired
is having the time and the means to say yes
to things that you had to kind of put on
hold when you were when you were working. And the
thing you had to put on hold most that matters
most to me is foregoing opportunities to visit with friends
(06:43):
and family and shipmates all over the country. And so
for the last three and a half years, that's how
I spend most of my retired time as I travel
cross country and stop and see family, friends, shipmates that
I had to, you know, forego seeing for all those
years that I was working. And now I got a
whole bunch of new new friends to go visit to
(07:04):
my mansion men.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
All over You do you should just sell your house
and travel twenty four to seven at this rate, You've
got a lot of people to do that.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I have given that some some thoughts.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Or do you work out? Do you work out every day?
I mean, you're sixty nine, you look incredible.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Well, I just had my seventieth birthday two months ago,
so I'm seventy now seven, I'm pretty pretty proud to
get to that big Now it's a big number.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Seven.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You do not you do not like seventy all.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I appreciate that very much. I don't go to a gym.
I do a lot of isometric stuff. I'm doing a
lot of push ups every day, and I walk or
run or jog or do something. I'm just staying active.
Amaze you amazing how many calories you can burn gardening.
And so I do a lot of different things, but
(07:55):
I don't. I don't work out for workouts sake.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Okay to say, how did you wind up on the
Golden bats are at?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah? Very good question. So last year in October, the
Golden Bachelor was on. I didn't watch it. The only
reason I even knew anything about the show was because
they were putting ads during the college football games I
was watching, and so the trailers were showing up, and
so I was aware there was a show, but I
(08:28):
wasn't all that interested in watching it. And I read
an article online about one of the cast members leaving
the show early, and I thought, well, that's interesting. That
told me two things about the show. One, maybe the
people on the reality TV show are real people. I
wasn't really sure about that, but they're real people. And
(08:51):
the other thing it said was a lot about jones character.
She's the one that left to take care of her
to be with her daughter in a tough time, and
to forego fame, fortune and the chance of love to
to take care of a family member. Said a lot
about the person she was. And so two weeks later
there was another article that said Joan was trying to
(09:14):
get back on the show and she couldn't. And at
the bottom of that article was the opportunity to apply
to be on a future version of the show, either
a Golden Bachelor or Golden Bachelorette. So I build out
the application.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Wow, interesting, Yeah, you're the first guy to do that.
And you didn't watch, ever watch the show prior.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I did not watch any of the Golden Bachelor series
until two days before I flew to la to start
filming the Golden Bachelorette. And I wanted to get a
better idea what to expect, and I wanted it fresh
in my mind. So I binge watched it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Got it, And so you really were you really went
on the show for Joan?
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Well, I want on the show for Joan.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
I knew.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I didn't know when that Joan was going to be
the Golden Bachelorette until well into the casting process. But
I went on the show in all honesty for three reasons,
none of which were I didn't have the expectation that
I was actually going to fall in love with the
Golden Bachelorette in a short period of time like that,
(10:27):
there's a lot of other guys competing. The odds just
aren't there, So I didn't set that as a as
an expectation. It would have been great if it happened,
but I didn't have that as an expectation. The expectations
I did have were that I wanted the adventure. You know,
I may be retired and I may be old, but
that doesn't mean that you're not interested in adventure and
being on a TV show like that would be an adventurous, fun,
(10:51):
interesting thing to do, and so I did it for
that reason. I did it because if all my friend's family,
anybody who ever has met me would get such a
kick out of seeing me on TV because it's so
out of character for me, you know, retired Davy cap
and guy, to go and be on a reality TV show.
So I knew that they would have an awful lot
of fun. I'd bring a lot of smiles to a
(11:12):
lot of faces if I did it and actually showed
up on TV. The third reason I did the show,
and the most important one, it really has to do
with my late wife, Mary died seven years ago. Before
she died, she asked that her cancer story be shared
with as many women as possible. And because it's a
(11:34):
story of late detection, misdiagnosis, late treatment, all of which
probably shortened her life, and so she wanted her story
told that. You know, women get a second opinion, don't
necessarily trust the first doctor, get another one to look
at it, make sure you listened, to be in tune
(11:56):
with your body, all the important things that women need
to know. She had a very in cancer, which is
a very unforgiving cancer when it's found late. So I thought, well,
if I did on the TV show, I might get
a chance to share Mary's story on TV. Well, I
didn't get that opportunity, but I figured if I at
least make it a couple three episodes, then there will
(12:19):
be people who want to get to know more about me,
and they'll go to my website, they'll go to Facebook,
They'll go to Instagram, and they will learn Mary's story.
And all three of those expectations I've laid out, they've
all happened in a wonderful way. And Mary's story has
been shared with the right audience. Ninety percent of my fans,
(12:39):
I guess are women, and they've been very appreciative of
the story I shared on Instagram about my life.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Was it meaningful to be able to connect with Joan
and the other men there that had also experienced losing
a spouse?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Yeah, good, good question. The best part of being on
the show is the was the opportunity to connect with
people in a similar circumstance. And it isn't just those
that were widowers and and Joan of course as a widow,
but even the single guys that were that had been divorced.
I have a lot of male friends my age, they're
(13:17):
all married, and so the TV show The Golden Bachelorette
gave me the opportunity to to talk with visit with
share stories with people in my same circumstance. And I
hadn't had that opportunity, and it's it was. It was
a wonderful experience. Uh And and one of the things
that bonded us us together and we're still good friends.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
How do you think that's impacted your life today and
how you live?
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I have you can never have too many friends, and
having a cadre of uh, you know, fraternal brothers who
have had the same experiences I've had and they're the
same age group is me, and and that that has
enriched my life. Their stories have enriched my life. Getting
(14:07):
to know these guys. Spending twelve hours a day, about
twenty four hours a day for several days with these guys,
you built real close bonds. And that's one of the
things that that I miss about being in the Navy
is how close you get with the people that you
go to see with and experience challenging things with. All
(14:30):
of us guys in the mansion experienced the same adventure
and had similar backgrounds, and so those friendships are enriching
and they're there and they're long lasting. I mean, we've
got a we've got a group. Tech's been going on
all day to day.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Ye birthday, rights birthday.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
We're all wishing him well. He's only sixty two, though
he still a kid, still a young guy.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
During your time on the show, what was your relationship.
Like with Joan, it was brief.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I didn't get that I didn't get that much time
with Joan. But the time that we did have to
sit together and chat together, I felt that we did
connect over the things that we haven't come the fact
that we both lost our spouses at a young age,
you know, much younger and much earlier than we ever
(15:31):
thought would be the case, both to cancer, her husband
to pancreatic cancer, my wife to a variant cancer. But
they were both in their fifties, you know when they died,
or he might have been sixty, but way too early.
I mean, you don't. That's not something you expect is
going to happen. You know, you expect you're going to
have another twenty years together with this person. And so
(15:53):
we connected on that basis. Family is awfully important to
both of us, and so she's got children and grandchildren.
She has four children, I have four children. She's got
three grandchildren. I've got four grandchildren. We both have degrees
in computer science. What are the odds that two people
our age have degrees in computer science? Joan is a
(16:16):
very smart woman. In addition to being beautiful and personal,
she's she's a very bright lady, and so we had
we had a lot of things to connect with and
I hope we'll continue to be friends. She reached out
after the last show and shared her email and phone
number with me, and and I hope we get a
chance to visit together again. Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
What has are you? Are you ready to date? Are
you dating? What's dating life like for you now?
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah? A good question. Yes, I'm I'm ready to date.
I didn't date at all for five and a half
years after Mary passed away. It just I don't know.
I just wasn't that interested in doing and that, plus
I was still working and busy. And then once I
retired and made my first cross country vacation trip driving,
(17:08):
I realized and did some overseas travel, I realized how
much more enjoyable it would be to have a romantic
companion with me. And so I've dated a little bit.
I am dating now, but there's no I'm not in
a relationship at this point, and so I'm still I'm
(17:31):
still dating. Was not a lot, a little bit here
and there.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What's the ideal situation or woman for you and your
life currently? What are you looking for?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I'm looking for someone who is independent, someone who doesn't
need a guy, need someone, but wants someone because I
feel the same way. I'm not looking to to I
don't have a need that I need filled. I want
to be with somebody. It's not that I need to
(18:05):
be with somebody. I would like to have someone to
be with, and I would hope that person would feel
the same independent. I'm not looking for somebody who wants
to be somebody else's dependent, So I like an independent person.
I think I would have more in common with a
(18:27):
with a widow. But you know, I think it would
take a very special woman who's not a widow divorce
a to accept the fact that if she were to
date me seriously and get serious with me, she'd have
to appreciate that I'm still in love with my late wife,
because you don't. There's a big difference between being divorced
(18:48):
and losing your spouse. But there are very you know,
I'm sure there's a you know, very special women out
there who are divorced who can appreciate that and still
uh and respect that and honor it.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Are there any women from the Golden Bachelor that have
caught your eye?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yes, But I haven't had the opportunity yet to meet
with them. I uh, that hasn't happened. As specific person
I would would like to meet and talk with is Nancy.
I'd like very much.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
We like Nancy, Yeah, well I would.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
She seems awfully nice. I didn't know very much about
her until she actually appeared on a couple of the
last episodes of our show as part of Joan's support network,
and a very important part it was. And so I
got a chance to see how you know, the kind
of person she is. And in addition to being beautiful,
(19:48):
she she impressed me with her her sensitivity to Joan
and her supportive nature and and yeah, I mean she.
I don't know what her marital status was, you know,
coming into the show, I had no idea, but I'd
like to learn more about her. And I haven't Nancy.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Nancy single, Nancy single, So you should.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
You should reach out last time, last time we spoke, Nancy,
she was single, she was dating, she was single.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Well, then we have that in common. I don't know,
maybe you can fight. I don't know how to get
in touch with her, but I was hoping the show
would help facilitate that, but I haven't. That hasn't happened. Yet,
So I'll figure it out.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
To ask Joan for her number.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That is a great idea.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
It's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I will do that. Yeah, I will do that. I'll
reach out to Joan. It's been awfully busy lately. I
don't know how much time she has.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
She has time. She loves being matchmaker.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I feel like she she's a good matchmaker and she
likes to do it so well.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
If Nancy's not available, I feel like Joan could like
be like, but I have this person or this person
that you might like.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What are you What are your thoughts on Joe and
Chock together?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I'm thrilled for both of them. Little. I got the
impression early on when Chock came back from his Disneyland
date with Joan, he very much seemed to be smitten
with her, absolutely smitten with her at that point, and
(21:25):
the fact that Joan chose him for the first one
on one out of eighteen guys certainly said that there
was a very strong attraction that she had for him
or to him, and so I'm not the least bit
surprised that those were the two left standing at the end,
(21:46):
or one kneeling and one standing at the end, and
so I'm thrilled for both of them, and I wish
them all the best, and I hope they you know,
when they do decide to have the wedding, that they'll
invite some of the Mansion men to come as well.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Do you have any plans in the future to hang
out with any of those guys?
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Nothing specific, However, I am traveling and I'm in currently
in the state of Florida, and two of the guys
live here, and I've reached out to them. I actually
talked to them about it at the Mentel Hall told
him when I was going to be in Florida, and
there's a good chance that at least one of them
will be home, and I'm planning to go see them
in January. So I'm going to be in Florida for
(22:29):
another couple of months except for going back for Christmas
with my kids in Seattle, so I'm definitely going to
be seeing them. I'm hoping to see Mark as I
cross As I drive cross country to California, I hope
to stop and see Mark in Louisiana. And then when
I get to California, there's like three or four guys
in California that I hope to connect with. There's not
(22:51):
a single one of these guys in from the mansion,
Among the mansion men, there's not one of them that
I wouldn't love to hang out with, go have dinner with,
stay at their house if they let me. They're all
just wonderful human beings.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
So's so great. It's so nice that you guys all
come out of this with a new community of people
to connect with and hang out with. But thank you
so much for coming on, Kim. It was so great
to chat with you and meet you.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Very nice to meet both of you.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, and to.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
All of our listeners, thank you so much for tuning
into a Boucherer Happy Hour. We have more exclusive interviews
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Speaker 1 (23:28):
Thanks and thank you, Kim. Bye, Jack, Welcome to Bachelor
Happy Hour. How are you?
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I'm doing great. How about you?
Speaker 1 (23:38):
I'm doing good. I'm doing good. So you're you're a
Chicago guy, Huh?
Speaker 5 (23:42):
I am. Actually I'm in northwest Indiana now, but born and.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Raised in Chicago, well part southeast side, as far east
as you can go.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I'm from Melrose Park.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Ah. We're the Italians. Yeah, well, the Italians hang out
in Melrose.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
Yeah, that's true, that's true. I saw you you were
cooking some Italian Are you Italian?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
I am Italian ZIONI yeah a little bit.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Uh yes, I heard you were the cook in the house.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Actually tonight I'm cheffing for one hundred and twenty women.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
Okay, well, yes, I'm doing a fancy menu.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
I'm finishing it up with bananas foster and doing underlining medallions.
I'm doing a butternut squash soup this start. Yeah, I'm
doing a lot of stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
So so you're so you're a cater. Did you ever
own a restaurant?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
I did. It was in the Lindwood, Illinois.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Okay, okay, what type of restaurant was it.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
It was called Lencionis and it was kind of a
bar with a mini casino, two hundred seat banquet room
in the back.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Yeah, it was. It was. It was a heck of
a joint.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
But let me tell you that that's a big operation.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Sounds a little like ken little a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It's the restaurant business is not an easy one, right.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Right right, That's why I got all them bags in
my eyes.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
What how did you So how did you wind up
on the Golden Bacherrett?
Speaker 6 (25:17):
You know, I had an ex girlfriend that actually sent
me an application and then it was I forgot. I
think it was long, and it was it was actually
I filled it out one night when I had quite
a few cocktails.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
That's the way to do it, that's the best way
to apply a little tipsy was what's your cocktail of choice?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Mine is an old Fashioned or Bourbon on the rocks,
whichever one I decided that day.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
And what is your what is your goal? Like, if
you're going to really impress a woman, what is the
dish that you're making?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
The one I'm doing for this undred and twenty women tonight,
I'm tenderloining medallions with a Bordelais sauce, asparagus with a
Hollandaise sauce, and pipe garlic mashed potatoes.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
And if you're choosing where to eat, where are you going?
Where does the chef eat?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
If I'm choosing where to go, I'm going to a
place called Livio's.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
It's a small what do you call it?
Speaker 6 (26:23):
It's not a chain restaurant, It's a local restaurant that
has phenomenal Italian food.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
What have you been to Lascarrola?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
I have right by my daughter's house. My daughter lives
in the city.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Okay, what did your daughter think about you going on?
How many kids do you have?
Speaker 5 (26:40):
I have two children, my daughter Gina and my daughter Jamie.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
What did they howld are they.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
Twenty thirty eight, thirty eight and thirty five?
Speaker 1 (26:50):
What did they think about you going on the show?
Speaker 5 (26:53):
In the beginning, they didn't like it.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
It was because my ex wife didn't like it because
she never knows what I was gonna say, you know.
But uh, but after they realized that I got half
a brain and that I was going to do this
the right way, and and and I and they like,
they love it now. Actually they came down for the
(27:15):
men's tello. Yeah, it was cool.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So going back to the house, just going back to
your your first day, well, how familiar with How familiar
were you with the Bachelor in general?
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Not at all?
Speaker 6 (27:35):
I mean I had never saw I saw it actually,
and I told people listen, I almost apologized for it
because I saw it for the first time about two
weeks before I went there. So because they don't tell
you right away that you're going, you know, so I
ended up that.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Was what I did.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
I'm not shocked. I would have assumed you didn't watch
the show.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Yeah, And I'm just not gonna lie. It's just you
know a lot of people and is it Is it
interesting now?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (28:09):
I mean it's it's amazing now because there's a correlation
between you know, the stuff that I did.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Did your daughter's watch it before you went on?
Speaker 5 (28:19):
My Yes, yes, my my one daughter did the other daughter.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Didn't you give you any advice?
Speaker 5 (28:29):
Yeah? Watch what you say, dad I have.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I mean that's what I mean if my if my
dad was going on, that's exactly what I would say.
Watch watch what you say. Okay, So you step out
of the limo that first uh, that first day, What's
what's going through your head? What do you How do
you feel about Joan?
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Because Joan was the most beautiful person and inside and out,
and when I got out.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Of the limo, all I wanted to do was impress her.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
And of course I sang coming out of the limo, which.
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Was a little different than you know, the other.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
People, and uh, actually not bad for you know, doing
that acapella stuff and h coming out of the limo
like that.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Yeah, it actually I thought it came out as.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
You sounded good? You sound do do you sing like
when you're catering? Do you do you go out there
and sing a little Frank Sinatra?
Speaker 6 (29:28):
You know, I don't do it necessarily, kind of keep
those two worlds separate, you know, because you know, the
cooking is very whatever, and then the singing is kind
of my fun thing to do.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Now, did you have a meeting Joan? Did you have
a connection with her?
Speaker 5 (29:46):
You know, we really didn't have a connection.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
And because of the fact that you know, you really
don't get as much time in the beginning that you
want with her, you know, and and so I'm.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
In that way. No, I did not. I didn't have
time to.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Impress her with my Uh, I don't know with anything.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Well I did. I cooked the dinner, cooked nice, saying
to her, so what the hell? Well, I mean, what
else could you do? You know?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
What was that dinner? Was that a veal chop that
you made? I don't remember.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
No, that was tenderline Medaian's. It was very similar to
what I'm doing tonight. And then with the you know,
with the bordelat sauce, it's, uh, you can't go wrong
with that. If you don't like filet mignon with a
little uh Bordelet sauce on it, a little asparagus.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
But Island days, it's you don't like.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Anything sounds really good. It's making me hungry.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Well, I'm actually starting. What was the battle? What was
the battle on the grill between the burgers? Chris?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Chris barbecue sauce.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
A nice guy. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
No, No, I was just saying he put barbecue sauce
on the burgers?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Or what did he put the.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
Barbecue sauce on the burgers?
Speaker 6 (30:55):
And putting barbecue sauce on the burgers if you put
it on one is okay maybe, but not on all
of them because nobody's gonna eat them.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
I mean, it's just but that's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
What does that mean?
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I mean it is a bold move to throw roque
sauce on every single burger.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, but doesn't a lot of that get burnt off
on the fire?
Speaker 5 (31:16):
No? No, because they he put it on like cheese,
like at the end, you know where you're not flipping
it around and everything.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So what was your favorite part about living with all
these guys? And you're in your least favorite part.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
The camaraderie, the ability to meet these guys at this
age and have this whole separate group of friends. And
these guys they text every day and they you know,
a couple of the guys I talked to twice a week,
and yeah, I mean it just was a great, great
time meeting them and the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (31:52):
I mean, you're you.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Know, you got the mansion, you got the pool, you
got cannon balls, it was all beautiful.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
What was it like seeing everyone you attended the mental
hall and after the rows? What was that like?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Oh, it's comical.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
I mean Charles was my roommate in my what do
you call it dressing room?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
And I says, it's the first thing I go. And
I said, Charles, what did you do to your head?
Speaker 3 (32:19):
You know?
Speaker 5 (32:19):
And he and he said, you like Jack. It was
it was great. It was great to see Charles. It
was great to see all the guys.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Have you connected with any of the Chicago guys that
have lived in the city.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
You know, Pastel invited me for dinner last week. It
just didn't work out. And Jordan's Michael, I you know,
I talked to back and forth as far as texts,
and that's so we're supposed to get together in Chicago.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yes, are you doing anything for the holidays? Pardon me,
are you doing anything for the holidays?
Speaker 5 (32:56):
No, I'm going to enjoy my family.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
I had, you know, I had my grandkids, my daughter,
my ex, my everybody over for Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
And it was a beautiful thing.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
It was you know that they came in about eleven
in the morning and then they left at about eight
o'clock at night, and it's great.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
How does your ex feel now about the show? Is
she she okay with it?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Now? After it's done, She's all good.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
She is a great lady, and she's just she's she's
fine with it now now, not before.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Now.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
Wait, you said your ex sent you the application. It
wasn't your ex wife though it was an extra friend.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
It was an ex girlfriend. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Okay, how did that conversation go. Did she just say, hey,
I think you should sign up. I think you'd be
great for this, right.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Just about exactly what she said, you know what she said,
I think you'd be great for this. You know, fill
this out, you know, And and so I says.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Okay, And then I didn't fill it out. And then
one day I.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
Think it was I don't know, snowing or something, and
I was at Libio's having a bourbon imagine that, and
then I just build it out, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
Wow, Okay, So what is what? What is dating life
like for you?
Speaker 5 (34:07):
Now? Comical? I mean it's it's wonderful, you know.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
I there's this really nice, beautiful lady named Kathy that
that I am dating a little bit, but not you know,
I mean, she lives in Florida.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
I live here.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
She actually was a fan of the show and sent
me something, you know, and I don't answer all them things.
In fact, I don't understand how to answer all them things.
Uh my daughter tells me if I got different things
because she kind of.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
My accounts because I don't know nothing about that stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, that's that's okay though, that's fine. Are you so
like when you like tonight you're catering a big party?
Do these people? Will these women know who you are?
From the show?
Speaker 6 (34:57):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, they're they're uh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
It's gonna be a thing.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I gotta do.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Tell you the funny story. So you know Chicago a
little bit, you know where Hensdale's at.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, yeah, I know, she got a lot of it.
I grew up in Chica. I mean I was born
and raised, you know. Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
So I'm in Hensdale walking down the street with this
girl on my first date with her, and all of
a sudden, this woman comes running out of the store
like frantically, and she yells, you're.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Jack from the Golden Bench, your.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Jack, and I yes, yes, I am. He you know,
I mean, you just don't know how to answer the stuff.
But like two minutes later, a guy pulls over in downtown,
you know, Hensdale, and he goes, hey, you're Jack from
the gold Man.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
I'm thinking of this is gonna be a weird date.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
I don't know how good hand, But after they had
calmed down, it was all good.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, I mean, it does not wrong with that. She
probably she might have liked that, you know.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Yeah, you know, I think in some ways she might hit,
But in some ways she's kind of yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Are you are you familiar with Oh, you're dating you're
kind of dating somebody? Were there any other women from
the Golden Bachelor that you were interested in?
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Chris, Christina is very nice lady. And you know, there's
and and Susan. I've talked to back and forth. You know,
she's a very busy woman, that Susan. I mean, she's
got she got a lot of stuff going on and
and uh, but she's a super nice lady, very intelligent
and a lot of very charming she is.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
I wanna I want to go over to her house.
I hear she's a really good cook too. You guys
should get together.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Who do you think about her cook?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Well, you know, you got to remember I cooked for
thousands then, and you know I'd have to add it
up one time to find how many, you know, because
for forty years I had a thousand cee bank with
a hall and then oh no, that was actually for
only twenty eight years, but then I had the restaurant
and we had all these other banket all. So yeah,
(37:11):
so I cooked for quite a bit and done quite
a bit of different things.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Who'd you get your produce from?
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Back in the day it was called Baker produce and
Zanstra produce. But besides that, I got it from Conal's Foods, which.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
Is another you know, like a Gordon food service type thing.
Got it.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, I used to be in the produce business.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
I used to work at the Oh you were in
a produce it worked on the water market.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yep, yeah, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Have you have you ever
been down there?
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Oh yeah, back in the day, we used to go there,
you know, I mean like forty fifty years ago. That
was what you did. You went down and got the
best deal.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah. What what are some of yours? What's your favorite
memory from your time on the show?
Speaker 5 (38:00):
Again? Uh, you know, meeting Joan was really cool.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
Uh, the times with the guys in the pool we were,
you know, having tottails and and bus and and uh,
you know.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
The home mansion was. I enjoyed every bit of it.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
The only part that I didn't like, and I've said
this before, is that you know, they you got the
bunk beds, and I'm kind of clusted the phobic. So
the top bunk no good and the bottom bunk no
good because you see the top bunk, and so I
kind of slept downstairs. And the funny part about that
is because the first night I went and I said, Hey,
(38:38):
I'm going to go sleep outside, and one of the
guys said that's fine, but there's a lot of tarantula's
out there. And I slammed the door and I, okay,
where can I sleep? And so we found a couch
for me.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
We saw that you obviously you were at the metal
all but you also were at the after the final
rows for the finale.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
What did you think of that? And how do you
feel about Joan and Chock?
Speaker 6 (39:03):
I from the day one, I said that Joan and
Chock where Chock was going to be the winner because
and not to take anything away from me or any
of the other guys, but he was just he had
a lot in common with her. He was a super
nice guy. He's good looking, son of a gun. I
(39:23):
mean he I just.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Thought Chock was was the guy for the for the
to win.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, I think a lot of a lot of guys
feel that way.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, we heard there was a party after the finale.
Did you go, oh yeah, how was it?
Speaker 5 (39:39):
That party?
Speaker 6 (39:40):
That was like do you know what you know, back
when Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin or whatever used to
go to a Hollywood party, That's what that party was like.
I mean there was just like everybody's all over with
you know, Butler Style or Dervs.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Martinez, Manhattan is anything you wanted? You guy?
Speaker 6 (40:00):
There it was and and it was and I again,
it was very comical.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
They were like people wanted to talk to me there,
and I'm thinking to myself, I'm like a little Mickey
Mouse in comparison to these people. I says, but you know,
it was a ball and the place was gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
I mean, you were You weren't on the show for
that long, but you were a very When you were
on the show, you were one of the main main
focus points.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Yeah, people were surprised that you went home so early.
People weren't expecting that. We weren't expecting that either.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
You know. I wasn't expecting either, to tell you surprise,
And you know, I just figured that I might have,
you know, because when you.
Speaker 6 (40:40):
Kind of act like I do, some people like it
and some people don't, you know. So I'm thinking maybe
there was a guy that you know, or whoever's making
a decision, because I really don't think Joan.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Wanted to get rid of me then early. But who knows?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
What was it you saw al this his last concert?
Speaker 6 (41:04):
Huh May second, nineteen seven, May second, nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
I was in the front row, was it?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Where was in Vegas?
Speaker 5 (41:13):
No? In Chicago at the Amphitheater, uh Antitheater? Yeah? Anyway,
So yeah, I was in the front row.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
And it was so funny because Alvis, you know, he
was always throwing scarves out and everything.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
So he threw a.
Speaker 6 (41:27):
Scarf out and I got it, and this guy behind
next to me, my buddy, uh Cuba, he gave him
a pick. Well, there was some excuse me chicks and
behind us that wanted to pick and the scarves. Well,
he gave him the pick and he said, give him
the scy I said, giving him the scarves.
Speaker 5 (41:47):
Scar's staying with me. So I still have this scar.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
You still have it?
Speaker 5 (41:51):
Oh? Yeah, wow?
Speaker 1 (41:52):
What do you think that's? Why do you think it's
worth anything?
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Definitely don't know.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
I mean how could they tell. I mean, it's not
like he had his name on it or anything. I
guess they could do the DNA thing or whatever. But
you know, it's been god May Sex seventy seven, it's
got to be almost fifty years.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Yeah. What brand is the scarf? Just a regular pardon?
What brand is the scarf? Is there anything?
Speaker 5 (42:15):
You know? I've never I don't even know if there's
a brand on there BG you know.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Wow, So you're hosting a dinner party tonight. Do you
think you'll ever fully officially retire and stop working.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
You know, some people ask me and they said, what
are you doing it?
Speaker 6 (42:31):
And I go, because, you know what, doing it once
in a blue moon is fine. Doing it every day
I'm under pressure. And that's why I sold the restaurant,
because you know, every day I was starting to think
we were a very busy restaurant, and I thought, you know,
I was under pressure.
Speaker 5 (42:48):
All that.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
I said, I ain't going to drop dead and never
get to spend that money I made. So that's why
I ended up quitting. But doing it once in a while,
I sure I enjoy it. Tonight's going to be a ball.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Nice. Nice, What are you any plans for Christmas?
Speaker 5 (43:05):
Christmas? Even my kids will come here and then.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
On Christmas Day. I'm not sure why I have thought
that fire ahead yet. Yeah, because I'm leaving for Florida
on the third of January. And then I take my
car and hear my sub and then dragged there with
my bicycle and golf gloves everything, and then I stay
a couple of months in Florida.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Nice, that's nice. What part of Florida.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
I'm in Treasure Island for a month and then Marco
Island for another month.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Nice. Good for you well, Jack, thank you, thank you
so much for taking the time out of your busy
day and hopping on Betry Happy Hour and talking to us.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
It was a great talking to both, to you and
you have a great Christmas.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
Merry Christmas to Bobia.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Thank you you as well to all our listeners, make
sure you tune in the Betch your Happy Hour and
download and subscribe.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, we'll have more episodes coming your way. Thanks for listening. Bye.
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