October 27, 2025 • 30 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are back to chat all about Mel’s Hometowns, but first, we have a few surprise guests stopping by: Joan and Nancy from Season 1! The besties are in Austin for a girls trip and they’re sharing a little piece of their reunion with us today. We get to hear all about how their trip is going and their thoughts on this season of “Golden.” Then, Kathy and Susan dive into this past episode and they have lots to chat about. They get into Mel’s interactions with the daughters, where he’s at so far in his journey, and of course, Debbie’s heartbreaking goodbye. Plus, they tell us who they’d like to see as the next Golden Bachelorette; can you guess who?! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks
so much for joining us again. We are so excited
to be here and wait too. Here we have planned today.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh boy, So today we are going to dive into
all things hometowns. But first we have two special guests.
We are in Austin, Texas with none other than Nancy
and Joan from our Golden Bachelor season. Welcome you, guys,
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's so nice to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We are still okay. So girls are back, We're back together.
We're here for the weekend. We have big plans.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, I mean we've been trying to plan this for
literally how long a year? I think a year at
least a year, at least a year, and we finally
put it together a date that we could all be
together somehow, and we flew in this morning and the
fun has just started.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And it's yes, tell them what you are.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I am right here, Susan. So I was so excited
to Joan and I both were excited to come. And
Susan called me a couple of nights ago and said,
can you give me a favor? Will you go get
that pimeno cheese that I liked? Remember that time. You
brought it to my house. I said yes, She said,
can you bring that on the plane? I said, are
(01:26):
you kidding me, Susan? She goes, no, it's fine, it'll
be okay, just put it in your luggage. And I
was like, I'm not putting pimento cheese in my luggage.
So what did I do? I brought it. I bought
three of them. It's like thirty bucks worth of pimeno cheese.
Packed it as a carry on and have it and
I have a little ice pack going through security.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Guess what I got stopped.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Jon's calling me like where are you? And I'm stopped
in security. They had to bring two supervisors over. They
had all literally they had all of the pimento cheese
out and they're holding it up and they're looking at it.
They thought I had drugs in the permeno cheese. I'm
not kidding. And so anyway, so luckily we made the flight.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And I'm so grateful, so great.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And I just want to say, this is reason number
four hundred and sixty two why Kathy does not cook,
because this is the trouble you get into. But having
said that, Susan came in a couple of days earlier,
and we went to the grocery store last night. My
refrigerator has never been so packed with food. My air
(02:35):
conditioning has never been set so low.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's freezings gold and it's so hot. But it feels
so good to have all our girls together again, us Goldens.
And what did we all do? Watch mel Seeson?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So I stayed up late, I was, I got up
at four fifteen today, but I stayed up and watched
it because I thought this is important.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
We should know what's.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Going on in this season.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, ladies, just watched it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What's your thought, Nancy? What do you think of this season?
You guys, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Nancy?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Go ahead, go ahead, Joe, No, you go, go go.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I want to hear.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I just watched last night's season, and I've been feeling
this way the whole time. My feeling is, my gut
feeling is he doesn't emote emotion, and he's not nothing
against him. But I don't get the feeling that he's
(03:35):
crazy in love with any of them, or obviously he
doesn't know that he is. But I just thought he'd
be further along with at least one of them, and
they're all lovely and oh my gosh, he's got great
women to pick from, but I just don't feel like
he's there. Clearly they are, Yeah, I guess I agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What about you, Nancy? I mean, what about you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That I totally agree with? Nancy? I don't know if
maybe he's being particularly careful. So I knew, like I
had kind of a like a contract with myself that
I wasn't going to say I love you to anybody
or just one person. But when you have those conversations
with their families, it's important that you give them some
kind of reassurance, and he couldn't even do that, which
(04:18):
is what concerned me. Like if they said, you know,
do you think you have strong feelings for my mom
or do you think that you'll ever get there? He
was like, yeah, I know, I'm not really sure. I
don't really know. As opposed to say, right, what's up?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
He said that, right?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, each of them, every single one of them said
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, I'm curious what you guys think are the biggest
differences in this season from our season?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I think though that it always like bachelor bubble is
a thing, obviously, and everybody seems to fall in love
with the lead. Even if like in that in the
real world it would have happened, it does on the shows.
These girls seem to have it on a even level.
They seem to be more in love and they think
he's even a greater person. And I don't know if
that goes back to us, and we should talk about
(05:06):
this a little bit, maybe not on this particular show,
because it's a whole conversation about how hard it is
to find love as a woman at this age.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So maybe they are so invested in this one man
because he's the only man out there of three hundred
million people that live in this country. He seems to
be the only one that has an option for them.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, they're living in his bubble.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
And we can all relate, most of us except Joan, now,
thank goodness, with Top and Susan with Frederick. But we've
all lived that three you know. We are one in
the three hundred million, and we've gone through it and
it is hard. And I think you're right, they've got
a great guy in front of them. Let's go. And
I feel like that You're exactly right, Joan, But do
(05:48):
you feel like.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
All these women on Mel's season are different than us,
And if so, what way? I know they all have
long hair.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well yeah, I all have extensions.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
So jealous they all but they all look similar, I think,
or many of them, I'm sorry, not all of them.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Because they're yeah, they're they're a little younger.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I mean we know that they you know, e gauge
them younger. I mean, he certainly said that, and they
do ask you, like when you're going on the show,
they ask you, like what kype type of person you're
looking for, like what physical traits, what personality kind of things.
He obviously said young We know that. It's no secret.
So they did. They you know, cast this, you know,
a lot younger than our our season. Actually yeah, I
(06:30):
mean we were. I know that the three of us
were three of the youngest people on the season before,
and we would be right in the middle of the
pack on this season.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yes, you're right, we had you guys.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I was going to say to me, it's so interesting
to watch when we were there, we did this, and
it just feels so different. I think, Joan, you're right,
partly due to age, partly due to their two their interest.
Some of the many of them are still working.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yep. But you know what, guys, I don't think the
age difference is that grand and I don't know that
any of them are grandparents yet, or maybe they are.
They really didn't speak of that at all, so that
was a big difference. I think.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I think it's because they're a little younger. I
mean they're there early sixties most of them. Yeah, they're
a lot younger. I do feel like he's a little
different than our lead. Okay, so Geary was very effusive,
he was very emotional. He gave made it easy for
us to be the same way. He kind of opened
the doors for us to then enter into that kind
of scene, you know, being the way that he was.
(07:38):
Mel is not that way. The women still are a
little bit and it seems very unreciprocated, which feels a
little uncomfortable to me. I thought we were all very
comfortable in Gary's world the way that what he created
for us, I don't feel comfortable in Mel's world.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, it's a really good point.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with her more.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yes, and I do agree with what you said about his.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Emotions.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Was not sorry showing emotions, not showing emotions but also
when we all went on our show, first Golden Bachelor,
we I think all of us were truly there. I
can say this without a doubt. We're truly there to
find love. And back to what you guys said, not
all of these women are, and like you said, they've
(08:23):
told people that and people know that. But that made
me a little sad because I really wanted I wanted
it to continue on this season.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
But that is what Bachelor stands for, finding love, right,
That's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I do believe that ninety five percent of the people
there are were there to find love. I felt like
they were really upset when they when every single one
of them didn't get a rose and we're leaving the mansion,
they look truly upset. I really year like they were
there for the right reasons, just very so.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So, Susan, you and I have met these ladies, Joan,
I think you've met a few of them. I'm I mean,
they're smart women, So either we're missing something or they're desperate,
and I don't want to believe they're desperate.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So I'm going to Joe, can you tell us that
they whisper behind the scenes and they're giving these women
all this hope and you've had the.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Experience, you're the one is the best.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No, I got to tell you everything that I mean. Obviously,
editing is a big part of it. So I got
to imagine they're editing the best that they have to
show us. So it does make me a little worried
that we're we're only seeing what we're getting. We're only
getting what we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And so wait are you saying, Joanes, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
They're editing anything good out. I don't think that they're
getting enough emotion from them.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I can see how that would happen.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, absolutely, we both. We couldn't agree with you more.
And we want to thank you guys for popping in here.
And I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You know what. We can't wait to see how it ends.
And all I can say is, there's four of us here.
Two of us are single, two of us aren't two availables.
I love you, Thanks for coming you guys, We love you.
We can't wait to celebrate. We've got a big weekend plan.
So don't use all your energy on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Don't go shopping, never go down and relax.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, thanks for coming. Guys.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You know, Kathy, it was great having the girls and
it's great having them here. But we're going to continue
what we were talking about. And one of the common
denominators that I noticed from last night's show is the
children and the conversations that Mel was having and the
questions they were asking, and he wasn't given solid believable
(10:50):
I mean believable. Yes, he wasn't giving him anything. How
do you feel you?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I agree with you. What I thought was stunning was Dakota,
who is PEG's daughter, and then Cindy's daughters were saying
very much the same thing that they weren't getting the
assurances from him. So you know, I don't know, I
don't get it. I think to me, I have to
(11:15):
jump to the end and then we're gonna work backwards.
I have to jump to the road ceremony because for me,
the pivotal moment in this entire episode was when Mel
stood there and looked at Debbie, Cindy and Peg and
(11:35):
Peg I know I'm swallowing, and said and said, you know,
you three I took I said what I meant, I'm
looking for love and the three of you embody. I'm
putting words in his mouth, but they embody what he's
looking for, and I thought, that's exactly right. He is
not sure what he's looking for. You know. He keeps
(11:57):
talking about fun, how fun Peg is, and how this
one's sensitive and this one's sincere, and I think he
would love to roll all three of those women into
one person. And that, to me was the pivotal moment
of this episode. But going back, go ahead, one of.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
My big things was with Dakota, and she was trying
to change the way she was asking the question, maybe
to get a different answer. But when he said he
loves her spirit, her energy, he's not in love with.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Her, Well he said that about cities.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I know it isn't.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Out, But here's the thing. On the one hand, you
have to admire a man or a woman who goes
on national television and says I'm not there yet. So
it gives me pause. Does he choose someone right? Maybe
he says I need all three of them rolled into one.
We don't know yet. But to me, the overarching themes
(12:58):
again were they all want more assurance from him and
they're not getting it. And what this made me think
about again as an adult, when you are young, as
a young and a twenty something, even a thirty something.
You know, you're looking for the man or woman who's
going to you're going to build a family with. You're
(13:19):
building your careers, you're building a family, all those things.
Yet at our age, we've had so many life experiences.
We're looking for that person that we can if you will,
collaborate with a companion, someone that is compatible all those things,
because we're not raising a family, right And so I
(13:41):
sat there thinking, because Mel is divorced, it gave me
pause to think about divorce and how mel is really
hampered by his past. More so, you know, he said,
I've only ever loved one woman, and it made me
think about sometimes I feel like young people jump into love.
(14:03):
You know, I love you, I love you, let's get married.
And those of us who are older, we understand the commitment,
the reality of telling someone I love you and I
want to spend the rest of my life with you.
So I feel like I got a real sense that
he is really hampered by his divorce and his past.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
And he's not ready to say it. But once again,
Cindy's girls, and by the way, how about their daughter,
Cindy's and Pegs they're beautiful, yeah, just beautiful women. And
he says to one of Cindy's daughters, I like your
mom a lot, and he doesn't know how he feels
about her. You're at the end of the show, right,
(14:45):
This is Hometowns. Next is the Overnight. You need to
know a little bit now. Maybe, like you just said, Kathy,
he's got He takes the L word really really important.
He doesn't let it out freely, which I all due respect, Mail,
but at this age that we're on on the show,
(15:05):
you gotta be feeling stronger for something so much.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, and that's Susan, that's exactly right. Oh my god,
we're agreen again again. It's okay for Mel to say,
you know, I'm really filming it for you, Cindy. To me,
he looked tortured. When Cindy was talking about how much
she really cared for him, he looked anxious. He looked like,
get me the hell out of here. Not that he
doesn't care for her, but that you know, I'm not
(15:31):
there yet. I'm uncomfortable. That's what I felt. But back
to the kids for a minute again, Susan, you and
I have children, we have grandchildren. For the first time,
I thought, what would that have been like if my
kids had had to have that conversation. They all said
how defensive, how they're going to protect their moms, And
(15:52):
I thought, you know what, that's a lot to put
kids through.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Having the child go back to the mom and be
able to save it. Mom. I'm not feeling one hundred
percent is that into you? Like you? And Cindy said,
I feel safe with him? Yeah, I feel like and Peg.
Peg has a different way about her. Let's talk about Peg.
Peg is she's I love how she's straight up and
(16:19):
her jeet looking forget that to fund and yes, energy energy,
But when she talks to him, I'm not looking for this,
this and this. I need this, this and this, whereas
Cindy's approach is I need a man that just lives
for and breathe for me.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And you know what, I'm not sure that Peg isn't
that way. I see, I told you and I've said
this before. We see ourselves a little bit more in Peg.
We have the heart. It's just a little more difficult
for us to show our emotions. And you know, if
you put mel on one end of the spectrum, you
know Peg is probably in the middle somewhere. Cindy's on
(17:00):
on the whole other side, as is our lovely Debbie.
But but I think Peg Peg says, you know I
was cheated on. I had a question about that too,
am I dreaming?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Didn't?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
And I really don't remember, so help me out here.
I swore that Mel said he had not been cheated on,
that it was just a divorce. I mean not just
a divorce, but a divorce. And then Peg said in
their hometown, I think Peg said we were both cheated on.
We share that in comments, So I was like, oh, wait,
(17:37):
did someone to speak. I was just curious.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I don't recall him sharing that because he doesn't share much,
but I do remember Peg stating it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes, yeah, so you know, I feel like the hometowns. Well,
first of all, I loved seeing my home. Oh my god,
is she just not the sweetest Kathy?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I vote for her to be the next Golden Best.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
No you don't. Who are you voting for?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
It got me? I vote for Debbie to be the next.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Thanks a lot, Susan. Okay, where are you sleeping tonight?
I got company and you're not it.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
One last thing when Dakota said, and this struck me,
thank you so much for talking to me. And my
mom deserves more.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yes, whoa Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Also, when he told Peg how much fun him in,
Dakota had, did I miss something?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh wait, no, no, no, that was something. Okay, I
had this, I had this marked down. So Susan and
I were watching this show together because we were working
on something else. Susan was here visiting, and and Dakota says,
Peg comes out and says, oh, I love my father's
so great. Didn't you love my daughter? She's hilarious? And
(18:53):
Mel says, yeah, she is. We have so much fun.
And I looked at Susan. I sailler, we watching the
same show. If that's fun, you know, talt me what
safety pens?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Maybe I'm hoping once again they didn't show us everything.
Maybe they went on to have a great time. But yeah,
I was like, huh, that was fun.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay. So so in a in a twenty thousand foot view,
you got Debbie who's talking about opening her heart, falling
in love. Doesn't want to be her, you know, he
sees how warm her family is. But again I felt
like Mel was an outsider looking in saying oh, she's
got such a close family. I didn't feel like he
(19:42):
felt part of that family.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Do you remember when he first got to Debbie and
he said she is someone he could see spending his.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Life exactly this one.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm saying shocked, But I get it. He has to choose.
I mean, there's three.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think he is. I think if you look up
conflicted in the dictionary, you're going to see a big
picture of mouth. He is conflicted.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And to be on Mel's side for a second, I
can't even imagine, Like we talked about this before being
the lead and having to make these decisions. Yes, and
like you pointed out earlier, maybe there is something in
all three of them that he loves and he likes
and he's got to narrow it down that.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And so wait, don't you wait, Susan, don't you I
give credit to a man. I know the object of
this show is to fall in love and hopefully get
on a knee and propose. I get it. But on
the other hand, I give Mel credit, even if it's inadvertent,
even if he doesn't know he's doing it, that maybe
(20:44):
he's not sure, maybe he doesn't know what he wants,
and he's got these fabulous women in front of him,
and maybe he's just feeling pressure to pick one. It's
as simple as that, and he doesn't want to pick
one because he doesn't have enough data points to pick one.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I get that he's being true to himself, but he's
not saying anybody that he loves them. Okay, don't think
he's ready to commit.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Okay, I agree. I have one quote that I have
several that Mel said. He said, and I think this
was on his hometown with Cindy. He said, I'm looking
for compatibility, someone to have fun with. Quote unquote that's
(21:27):
screams PEG right because I think Cindy, based on what
we're seeing is she said she wanted. I've got that
quote too. She said, let's figure out how to be
happy for the future. She's looking for Monday through Sunday,
look into the future. Wants her guy by her side.
And maybe that's too much for Mel. Maybe what he
(21:50):
wants is fun and PEG. If you look up fun
in the dictionary, you're going to see PEG says definitions.
And I would have said Debbie, but but I don't know.
Were you surprised that Debbie wasn't chosen at the roast ceremony.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I was shocked but I felt the real connection with
him in Cindy. But every single time he's with Peg,
he's laughing, he's having fun. She pulls it out of him.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And every every toast that Malice had fun, He's always
toasting fun and adventure, and that screams PEG. But I think,
as we're getting closer to the end here, I look
at Debbie and I think sincere loving carrying family, and
I think he sees that. He sees her family as that,
(22:42):
you know, the dude the barbecue, they're playing corn hole,
it's like family time. And I think, maybe I hate
to say this because I love Debbie, I kind of
think he isn't feeling it with the family. He's not
feeling like it's a good fit with the family. That's
just my gut.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And imagine what fault he found with her. But like
we just said, Kathy, it's his feeling and he's got
to decide which one's going to make him the happiest
that he fills best with.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Right, Yeah, I agree. I gotta say a couple of lines,
you know, I swear, Cindy, I swear to god it
has to be an English major. I'm excavating myself. I
love that she's trying to find her UF And how
about this one. I'm the big L for Mel, the
big L. I mean, I don't know and Melson. It's complicated.
(23:32):
All these things are leading me to I'm telling you, Susan,
I won't be surprised if he doesn't pick anyone. I mean,
that's well.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Today, that's a possibility.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I mean, he had to send someone home back to
the row ceremony. You know, he Debby deserves a happy ending.
We all know that he said it, she said it,
but something about his reaction with the family, I wasn't
that surprised. And I can't put any more of a
a finger on it than that, but I would not
(24:05):
be surprised. Cindy And I mean, let me just say,
Cindy and Peg, in my mind, are as different as
I am with Teresa. You know, like you can't want
us both, right, Yes, you could want you and me.
We're both out going, you know, Gregarias.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
But personally, Kathy, I kind of felt it was a
Cindy Cindy Cindy all along and them shifted. Now because
did you see at the very very end of that
show when she said certain words like I feel like
she's not getting what she needs. Who Cindy's her choice too,
(24:44):
it's not just his.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I think that she shook me.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Up a little bit, like, oh, maybe he's not given
her enough for her to put herself, like she's gonna
have her heartbroken or Peg will. I mean, somebody's gone.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
To well unless he doesn't pick either one. And that's
kind of I think, I think some one of Cindy's daughter.
Cindy's daughter said, Mel seems unsure, and that's kind of
where I'm landing. Peg is fun, fun, fun. Cindy is more.
I want a family. I want to integrate into our families.
(25:19):
I want to love you everything, you know I want to.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
She said, Sorry, she would move to La. She told
her girls, I will move but ready.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I mean, I just kept thinking if this were my kids.
I always sit here now watching back a second season,
I'm thinking, you know, I have a daughter, what would
my daughter? You know, I've been hurt, a different kind
of hurt than Cindy, but I've had terrible loss in
my life. The last thing my kids want is for
(25:48):
me to have more hurt in my life and more pain.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Right, it sounded as if Peg didn't do a whole
lot of dating, and I assume that Cindy has and
on several dates and met several people and they just
didn't find the right one.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Okay. Can I be a jerk for a second. Yeah, Okay,
So my son's firefighter. He's retired from firefighting, but my
son was a firefighter for like fifteen years. Come on, Peg,
come on, people, if you are a firefighter, Peg retired
eighteen years ago, I can assure you people that you
(26:27):
don't have a cubby anymore. Your name was not on
that fire hat. There was no name on the jacket.
I'm just you know me, I'm a stickler for facts,
and I love to retired. I know I loved But
on the other hand, I love the fact that we
were celebrating firefighters because they are amazing, amazing people, and
(26:48):
so I love that. But I'm like, come on, Cindy,
what have you been doing the last eighteen years?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Come you mean?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I say that.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
These ladies are beautiful inside and out in their own ways,
and you know what. The all we could do is
wait next week is is women tell all juicy?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's gonna be If I can hardly wait, I'm guessing
we're gonna get some good tidbits from from Debbie and
from if we got I'm sure Nicole beyond. But you
know what, I am looking forward to the when they
get to their their place for the fantasy suites, in
those dates and meeting the family because I don't know,
(27:27):
I feel like this season it's been rough to invest
in in the in the season, and I'm trying to
invest in it. But I have to say, for the
first time ever, he may not choose either one.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's quite possible. And I talk to as you do
all of our fans. People write us all the time
on our podcast, and he's hard to support sometimes because
he isn't giving enough or give wait something.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Or he's either not giving because he's incapable of it,
or he's unsure, or he's nervous or he's anxious all
those things or.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And he was not a serial dater himself, right, he
took right time and he's finally ready. And that's a
good point.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
So and I think people forget that I I love you, Susan,
Thank you Susan. I also think sometimes you forget that
the lead has all this on his or her shoulders,
and it's a lot and the expectation is that you're
there for love and you're going to get on a knee,
bended knee to the woman you're in love with. And
(28:34):
you know what, if he can't do it because he's
not sure, I respect that, you know, I respect that.
So I can't wait for I cannot wait to see
that well Hometown, I mean, women's tell all is going
to be juicy, lots of Oh I.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Need like two hours for that episode.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But after that, oh, after that, it's going to be
those fantasy suites. I would love to be a fly
on the wall for those fantasy suits, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And it's so true that that girls don't get to
see each other at all, but we'll save that for them. Yeah,
wasn't it fun having Joan and Nancy here?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You know what? And y'all we Susan. I hope to
be back next week, but frankly, the four of us
are going to raise some hell in Austin, Texas this weekend.
So if we don't, yeah, forget it. If we don't
show up next week, just know that we had a
great time burning down Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Austin, Texas. Wait, you guys have to see a video
out there that I put Kathy's grocery store. Can I
just chase something for one second? I have never you
go into the store and you get a cart, right, well,
we're going to go up and escalator and I had
those in the city. But the car doesn't go up.
It goes up on its own escalator and the sum
stamp I was in all over this.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Can I just say everything is bigger and better in Texas?
You should know that's.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Bigger for sure. And you know what, this has been
fun and I have We're both very excited for next week.
Thank you everybody for listening. I'm glad you got to
say hi to Joan and Nancy.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah. Thanks Jon and Nancy for dropping in with us.
We had a great time. Be sure to follow Bachelor
Happy Hour as we have new episodes coming out every
week that you don't want to miss.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And you know, listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour
on the iHeartRadio app for wherever you listen to your podcast.
See you next week.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Take care,
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks
so much for joining us again. We are so excited
to be here and wait too. Here we have planned today.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh boy, So today we are going to dive into
all things hometowns. But first we have two special guests.
We are in Austin, Texas with none other than Nancy
and Joan from our Golden Bachelor season. Welcome you, guys,
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
It's so nice to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We are still okay. So girls are back, We're back together.
We're here for the weekend. We have big plans.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, I mean we've been trying to plan this for
literally how long a year? I think a year at
least a year, at least a year, and we finally
put it together a date that we could all be
together somehow, and we flew in this morning and the
fun has just started.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And it's yes, tell them what you are.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
I am right here, Susan. So I was so excited
to Joan and I both were excited to come. And
Susan called me a couple of nights ago and said,
can you give me a favor? Will you go get
that pimeno cheese that I liked? Remember that time. You
brought it to my house. I said yes, She said,
can you bring that on the plane? I said, are
(01:26):
you kidding me, Susan? She goes, no, it's fine, it'll
be okay, just put it in your luggage. And I
was like, I'm not putting pimento cheese in my luggage.
So what did I do? I brought it. I bought
three of them. It's like thirty bucks worth of pimeno cheese.
Packed it as a carry on and have it and
I have a little ice pack going through security.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Guess what I got stopped.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Jon's calling me like where are you? And I'm stopped
in security. They had to bring two supervisors over. They
had all literally they had all of the pimento cheese
out and they're holding it up and they're looking at it.
They thought I had drugs in the permeno cheese. I'm
not kidding. And so anyway, so luckily we made the flight.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
And I'm so grateful, so great.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
And I just want to say, this is reason number
four hundred and sixty two why Kathy does not cook,
because this is the trouble you get into. But having
said that, Susan came in a couple of days earlier,
and we went to the grocery store last night. My
refrigerator has never been so packed with food. My air
(02:35):
conditioning has never been set so low.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's freezings gold and it's so hot. But it feels
so good to have all our girls together again, us Goldens.
And what did we all do? Watch mel Seeson?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
So I stayed up late, I was, I got up
at four fifteen today, but I stayed up and watched
it because I thought this is important.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
We should know what's.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Going on in this season.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, ladies, just watched it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What's your thought, Nancy? What do you think of this season?
You guys, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Nancy?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Go ahead, go ahead, Joe, No, you go, go go.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I want to hear.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I just watched last night's season, and I've been feeling
this way the whole time. My feeling is, my gut
feeling is he doesn't emote emotion, and he's not nothing
against him. But I don't get the feeling that he's
(03:35):
crazy in love with any of them, or obviously he
doesn't know that he is. But I just thought he'd
be further along with at least one of them, and
they're all lovely and oh my gosh, he's got great
women to pick from, but I just don't feel like
he's there. Clearly they are, Yeah, I guess I agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
What about you, Nancy? I mean, what about you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
That I totally agree with? Nancy? I don't know if
maybe he's being particularly careful. So I knew, like I
had kind of a like a contract with myself that
I wasn't going to say I love you to anybody
or just one person. But when you have those conversations
with their families, it's important that you give them some
kind of reassurance, and he couldn't even do that, which
(04:18):
is what concerned me. Like if they said, you know,
do you think you have strong feelings for my mom
or do you think that you'll ever get there? He
was like, yeah, I know, I'm not really sure. I
don't really know. As opposed to say, right, what's up?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
He said that, right?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah, each of them, every single one of them said
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah, I'm curious what you guys think are the biggest
differences in this season from our season?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Hmmm.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I think though that it always like bachelor bubble is
a thing, obviously, and everybody seems to fall in love
with the lead. Even if like in that in the
real world it would have happened, it does on the shows.
These girls seem to have it on a even level.
They seem to be more in love and they think
he's even a greater person. And I don't know if
that goes back to us, and we should talk about
(05:06):
this a little bit, maybe not on this particular show,
because it's a whole conversation about how hard it is
to find love as a woman at this age.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yea.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
So maybe they are so invested in this one man
because he's the only man out there of three hundred
million people that live in this country. He seems to
be the only one that has an option for them.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, they're living in his bubble.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
And we can all relate, most of us except Joan, now,
thank goodness, with Top and Susan with Frederick. But we've
all lived that three you know. We are one in
the three hundred million, and we've gone through it and
it is hard. And I think you're right, they've got
a great guy in front of them. Let's go. And
I feel like that You're exactly right, Joan, But do
(05:48):
you feel like.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
All these women on Mel's season are different than us,
And if so, what way? I know they all have
long hair.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Well yeah, I all have extensions.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
So jealous they all but they all look similar, I think,
or many of them, I'm sorry, not all of them.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Because they're yeah, they're they're a little younger.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
I mean we know that they you know, e gauge
them younger. I mean, he certainly said that, and they
do ask you, like when you're going on the show,
they ask you, like what kype type of person you're
looking for, like what physical traits, what personality kind of things.
He obviously said young We know that. It's no secret.
So they did. They you know, cast this, you know,
a lot younger than our our season. Actually yeah, I
(06:30):
mean we were. I know that the three of us
were three of the youngest people on the season before,
and we would be right in the middle of the
pack on this season.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yes, you're right, we had you guys.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I was going to say to me, it's so interesting
to watch when we were there, we did this, and
it just feels so different. I think, Joan, you're right,
partly due to age, partly due to their two their interest.
Some of the many of them are still working.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Yep. But you know what, guys, I don't think the
age difference is that grand and I don't know that
any of them are grandparents yet, or maybe they are.
They really didn't speak of that at all, so that
was a big difference. I think.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I think it's because they're a little younger. I
mean they're there early sixties most of them. Yeah, they're
a lot younger. I do feel like he's a little
different than our lead. Okay, so Geary was very effusive,
he was very emotional. He gave made it easy for
us to be the same way. He kind of opened
the doors for us to then enter into that kind
of scene, you know, being the way that he was.
(07:38):
Mel is not that way. The women still are a
little bit and it seems very unreciprocated, which feels a
little uncomfortable to me. I thought we were all very
comfortable in Gary's world the way that what he created
for us, I don't feel comfortable in Mel's world.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, it's a really good point.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, I couldn't agree with her more.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yes, and I do agree with what you said about his.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Emotions.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Was not sorry showing emotions, not showing emotions but also
when we all went on our show, first Golden Bachelor,
we I think all of us were truly there. I
can say this without a doubt. We're truly there to
find love. And back to what you guys said, not
all of these women are, and like you said, they've
(08:23):
told people that and people know that. But that made
me a little sad because I really wanted I wanted
it to continue on this season.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
But that is what Bachelor stands for, finding love, right,
That's what it's about.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I do believe that ninety five percent of the people
there are were there to find love. I felt like
they were really upset when they when every single one
of them didn't get a rose and we're leaving the mansion,
they look truly upset. I really year like they were
there for the right reasons, just very so.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
So, Susan, you and I have met these ladies, Joan,
I think you've met a few of them. I'm I mean,
they're smart women, So either we're missing something or they're desperate,
and I don't want to believe they're desperate.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So I'm going to Joe, can you tell us that
they whisper behind the scenes and they're giving these women
all this hope and you've had the.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Experience, you're the one is the best.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No, I got to tell you everything that I mean. Obviously,
editing is a big part of it. So I got
to imagine they're editing the best that they have to
show us. So it does make me a little worried
that we're we're only seeing what we're getting. We're only
getting what we're seeing.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And so wait are you saying, Joanes, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
They're editing anything good out. I don't think that they're
getting enough emotion from them.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I can see how that would happen.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, absolutely, we both. We couldn't agree with you more.
And we want to thank you guys for popping in here.
And I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You know what. We can't wait to see how it ends.
And all I can say is, there's four of us here.
Two of us are single, two of us aren't two availables.
I love you, Thanks for coming you guys, We love you.
We can't wait to celebrate. We've got a big weekend plan.
So don't use all your energy on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Don't go shopping, never go down and relax.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Okay, thanks for coming. Guys.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You know, Kathy, it was great having the girls and
it's great having them here. But we're going to continue
what we were talking about. And one of the common
denominators that I noticed from last night's show is the
children and the conversations that Mel was having and the
questions they were asking, and he wasn't given solid believable
(10:50):
I mean believable. Yes, he wasn't giving him anything. How
do you feel you?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
I agree with you. What I thought was stunning was Dakota,
who is PEG's daughter, and then Cindy's daughters were saying
very much the same thing that they weren't getting the
assurances from him. So you know, I don't know, I
don't get it. I think to me, I have to
(11:15):
jump to the end and then we're gonna work backwards.
I have to jump to the road ceremony because for me,
the pivotal moment in this entire episode was when Mel
stood there and looked at Debbie, Cindy and Peg and
(11:35):
Peg I know I'm swallowing, and said and said, you know,
you three I took I said what I meant, I'm
looking for love and the three of you embody. I'm
putting words in his mouth, but they embody what he's
looking for, and I thought, that's exactly right. He is
not sure what he's looking for. You know. He keeps
(11:57):
talking about fun, how fun Peg is, and how this
one's sensitive and this one's sincere, and I think he
would love to roll all three of those women into
one person. And that, to me was the pivotal moment
of this episode. But going back, go ahead, one of.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
My big things was with Dakota, and she was trying
to change the way she was asking the question, maybe
to get a different answer. But when he said he
loves her spirit, her energy, he's not in love with.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Her, Well he said that about cities.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I know it isn't.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Out, But here's the thing. On the one hand, you
have to admire a man or a woman who goes
on national television and says I'm not there yet. So
it gives me pause. Does he choose someone right? Maybe
he says I need all three of them rolled into one.
We don't know yet. But to me, the overarching themes
(12:58):
again were they all want more assurance from him and
they're not getting it. And what this made me think
about again as an adult, when you are young, as
a young and a twenty something, even a thirty something.
You know, you're looking for the man or woman who's
going to you're going to build a family with. You're
(13:19):
building your careers, you're building a family, all those things.
Yet at our age, we've had so many life experiences.
We're looking for that person that we can if you will,
collaborate with a companion, someone that is compatible all those things,
because we're not raising a family, right And so I
(13:41):
sat there thinking, because Mel is divorced, it gave me
pause to think about divorce and how mel is really
hampered by his past. More so, you know, he said,
I've only ever loved one woman, and it made me
think about sometimes I feel like young people jump into love.
(14:03):
You know, I love you, I love you, let's get married.
And those of us who are older, we understand the commitment,
the reality of telling someone I love you and I
want to spend the rest of my life with you.
So I feel like I got a real sense that
he is really hampered by his divorce and his past.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
And he's not ready to say it. But once again,
Cindy's girls, and by the way, how about their daughter,
Cindy's and Pegs they're beautiful, yeah, just beautiful women. And
he says to one of Cindy's daughters, I like your
mom a lot, and he doesn't know how he feels
about her. You're at the end of the show, right,
(14:45):
This is Hometowns. Next is the Overnight. You need to
know a little bit now. Maybe, like you just said, Kathy,
he's got He takes the L word really really important.
He doesn't let it out freely, which I all due respect, Mail,
but at this age that we're on on the show,
(15:05):
you gotta be feeling stronger for something so much.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Well, and that's Susan, that's exactly right. Oh my god,
we're agreen again again. It's okay for Mel to say,
you know, I'm really filming it for you, Cindy. To me,
he looked tortured. When Cindy was talking about how much
she really cared for him, he looked anxious. He looked like,
get me the hell out of here. Not that he
doesn't care for her, but that you know, I'm not
(15:31):
there yet. I'm uncomfortable. That's what I felt. But back
to the kids for a minute again, Susan, you and
I have children, we have grandchildren. For the first time,
I thought, what would that have been like if my
kids had had to have that conversation. They all said
how defensive, how they're going to protect their moms, And
(15:52):
I thought, you know what, that's a lot to put
kids through.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Having the child go back to the mom and be
able to save it. Mom. I'm not feeling one hundred
percent is that into you? Like you? And Cindy said,
I feel safe with him? Yeah, I feel like and Peg.
Peg has a different way about her. Let's talk about Peg.
Peg is she's I love how she's straight up and
(16:19):
her jeet looking forget that to fund and yes, energy energy,
But when she talks to him, I'm not looking for this,
this and this. I need this, this and this, whereas
Cindy's approach is I need a man that just lives
for and breathe for me.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And you know what, I'm not sure that Peg isn't
that way. I see, I told you and I've said
this before. We see ourselves a little bit more in Peg.
We have the heart. It's just a little more difficult
for us to show our emotions. And you know, if
you put mel on one end of the spectrum, you
know Peg is probably in the middle somewhere. Cindy's on
(17:00):
on the whole other side, as is our lovely Debbie.
But but I think Peg Peg says, you know I
was cheated on. I had a question about that too,
am I dreaming?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Didn't?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
And I really don't remember, so help me out here.
I swore that Mel said he had not been cheated on,
that it was just a divorce. I mean not just
a divorce, but a divorce. And then Peg said in
their hometown, I think Peg said we were both cheated on.
We share that in comments, So I was like, oh, wait,
(17:37):
did someone to speak. I was just curious.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I don't recall him sharing that because he doesn't share much,
but I do remember Peg stating it.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes, yeah, so you know, I feel like the hometowns. Well,
first of all, I loved seeing my home. Oh my god,
is she just not the sweetest Kathy?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I vote for her to be the next Golden Best.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
No you don't. Who are you voting for?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
It got me? I vote for Debbie to be the next.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Thanks a lot, Susan. Okay, where are you sleeping tonight?
I got company and you're not it.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
One last thing when Dakota said, and this struck me,
thank you so much for talking to me. And my
mom deserves more.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yes, whoa Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Also, when he told Peg how much fun him in,
Dakota had, did I miss something?
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Oh wait, no, no, no, that was something. Okay, I
had this, I had this marked down. So Susan and
I were watching this show together because we were working
on something else. Susan was here visiting, and and Dakota says,
Peg comes out and says, oh, I love my father's
so great. Didn't you love my daughter? She's hilarious? And
(18:53):
Mel says, yeah, she is. We have so much fun.
And I looked at Susan. I sailler, we watching the
same show. If that's fun, you know, talt me what
safety pens?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Maybe I'm hoping once again they didn't show us everything.
Maybe they went on to have a great time. But yeah,
I was like, huh, that was fun.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Okay. So so in a in a twenty thousand foot view,
you got Debbie who's talking about opening her heart, falling
in love. Doesn't want to be her, you know, he
sees how warm her family is. But again I felt
like Mel was an outsider looking in saying oh, she's
got such a close family. I didn't feel like he
(19:42):
felt part of that family.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Do you remember when he first got to Debbie and
he said she is someone he could see spending his.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Life exactly this one.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
I'm saying shocked, But I get it. He has to choose.
I mean, there's three.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think he is. I think if you look up
conflicted in the dictionary, you're going to see a big
picture of mouth. He is conflicted.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And to be on Mel's side for a second, I
can't even imagine, Like we talked about this before being
the lead and having to make these decisions. Yes, and
like you pointed out earlier, maybe there is something in
all three of them that he loves and he likes
and he's got to narrow it down that.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And so wait, don't you wait, Susan, don't you I
give credit to a man. I know the object of
this show is to fall in love and hopefully get
on a knee and propose. I get it. But on
the other hand, I give Mel credit, even if it's inadvertent,
even if he doesn't know he's doing it, that maybe
(20:44):
he's not sure, maybe he doesn't know what he wants,
and he's got these fabulous women in front of him,
and maybe he's just feeling pressure to pick one. It's
as simple as that, and he doesn't want to pick
one because he doesn't have enough data points to pick one.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I get that he's being true to himself, but he's
not saying anybody that he loves them. Okay, don't think
he's ready to commit.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Okay, I agree. I have one quote that I have
several that Mel said. He said, and I think this
was on his hometown with Cindy. He said, I'm looking
for compatibility, someone to have fun with. Quote unquote that's
(21:27):
screams PEG right because I think Cindy, based on what
we're seeing is she said she wanted. I've got that
quote too. She said, let's figure out how to be
happy for the future. She's looking for Monday through Sunday,
look into the future. Wants her guy by her side.
And maybe that's too much for Mel. Maybe what he
(21:50):
wants is fun and PEG. If you look up fun
in the dictionary, you're going to see PEG says definitions.
And I would have said Debbie, but but I don't know.
Were you surprised that Debbie wasn't chosen at the roast ceremony.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I was shocked but I felt the real connection with
him in Cindy. But every single time he's with Peg,
he's laughing, he's having fun. She pulls it out of him.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
And every every toast that Malice had fun, He's always
toasting fun and adventure, and that screams PEG. But I think,
as we're getting closer to the end here, I look
at Debbie and I think sincere loving carrying family, and
I think he sees that. He sees her family as that,
(22:42):
you know, the dude the barbecue, they're playing corn hole,
it's like family time. And I think, maybe I hate
to say this because I love Debbie, I kind of
think he isn't feeling it with the family. He's not
feeling like it's a good fit with the family. That's
just my gut.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
And imagine what fault he found with her. But like
we just said, Kathy, it's his feeling and he's got
to decide which one's going to make him the happiest
that he fills best with.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Right, Yeah, I agree. I gotta say a couple of lines,
you know, I swear, Cindy, I swear to god it
has to be an English major. I'm excavating myself. I
love that she's trying to find her UF And how
about this one. I'm the big L for Mel, the
big L. I mean, I don't know and Melson. It's complicated.
(23:32):
All these things are leading me to I'm telling you, Susan,
I won't be surprised if he doesn't pick anyone. I mean,
that's well.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Today, that's a possibility.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I mean, he had to send someone home back to
the row ceremony. You know, he Debby deserves a happy ending.
We all know that he said it, she said it,
but something about his reaction with the family, I wasn't
that surprised. And I can't put any more of a
a finger on it than that, but I would not
(24:05):
be surprised. Cindy And I mean, let me just say,
Cindy and Peg, in my mind, are as different as
I am with Teresa. You know, like you can't want
us both, right, Yes, you could want you and me.
We're both out going, you know, Gregarias.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
But personally, Kathy, I kind of felt it was a
Cindy Cindy Cindy all along and them shifted. Now because
did you see at the very very end of that
show when she said certain words like I feel like
she's not getting what she needs. Who Cindy's her choice too,
(24:44):
it's not just his.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, I think that she shook me.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Up a little bit, like, oh, maybe he's not given
her enough for her to put herself, like she's gonna
have her heartbroken or Peg will. I mean, somebody's gone.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
To well unless he doesn't pick either one. And that's
kind of I think, I think some one of Cindy's daughter.
Cindy's daughter said, Mel seems unsure, and that's kind of
where I'm landing. Peg is fun, fun, fun. Cindy is more.
I want a family. I want to integrate into our families.
(25:19):
I want to love you everything, you know I want to.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
She said, Sorry, she would move to La. She told
her girls, I will move but ready.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I mean, I just kept thinking if this were my kids.
I always sit here now watching back a second season,
I'm thinking, you know, I have a daughter, what would
my daughter? You know, I've been hurt, a different kind
of hurt than Cindy, but I've had terrible loss in
my life. The last thing my kids want is for
(25:48):
me to have more hurt in my life and more pain.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Right, it sounded as if Peg didn't do a whole
lot of dating, and I assume that Cindy has and
on several dates and met several people and they just
didn't find the right one.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Okay. Can I be a jerk for a second. Yeah, Okay,
So my son's firefighter. He's retired from firefighting, but my
son was a firefighter for like fifteen years. Come on, Peg,
come on, people, if you are a firefighter, Peg retired
eighteen years ago, I can assure you people that you
(26:27):
don't have a cubby anymore. Your name was not on
that fire hat. There was no name on the jacket.
I'm just you know me, I'm a stickler for facts,
and I love to retired. I know I loved But
on the other hand, I love the fact that we
were celebrating firefighters because they are amazing, amazing people, and
(26:48):
so I love that. But I'm like, come on, Cindy,
what have you been doing the last eighteen years?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Come you mean?
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I say that.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
These ladies are beautiful inside and out in their own ways,
and you know what. The all we could do is
wait next week is is women tell all juicy?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's gonna be If I can hardly wait, I'm guessing
we're gonna get some good tidbits from from Debbie and
from if we got I'm sure Nicole beyond. But you
know what, I am looking forward to the when they
get to their their place for the fantasy suites, in
those dates and meeting the family because I don't know,
(27:27):
I feel like this season it's been rough to invest
in in the in the season, and I'm trying to
invest in it. But I have to say, for the
first time ever, he may not choose either one.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's quite possible. And I talk to as you do
all of our fans. People write us all the time
on our podcast, and he's hard to support sometimes because
he isn't giving enough or give wait something.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Or he's either not giving because he's incapable of it,
or he's unsure, or he's nervous or he's anxious all
those things or.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
And he was not a serial dater himself, right, he
took right time and he's finally ready. And that's a
good point.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
So and I think people forget that I I love you, Susan,
Thank you Susan. I also think sometimes you forget that
the lead has all this on his or her shoulders,
and it's a lot and the expectation is that you're
there for love and you're going to get on a knee,
bended knee to the woman you're in love with. And
(28:34):
you know what, if he can't do it because he's
not sure, I respect that, you know, I respect that.
So I can't wait for I cannot wait to see
that well Hometown, I mean, women's tell all is going
to be juicy, lots of Oh I.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Need like two hours for that episode.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But after that, oh, after that, it's going to be
those fantasy suites. I would love to be a fly
on the wall for those fantasy suits, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And it's so true that that girls don't get to
see each other at all, but we'll save that for them. Yeah,
wasn't it fun having Joan and Nancy here?
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You know what? And y'all we Susan. I hope to
be back next week, but frankly, the four of us
are going to raise some hell in Austin, Texas this weekend.
So if we don't, yeah, forget it. If we don't
show up next week, just know that we had a
great time burning down Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Austin, Texas. Wait, you guys have to see a video
out there that I put Kathy's grocery store. Can I
just chase something for one second? I have never you
go into the store and you get a cart, right, well,
we're going to go up and escalator and I had
those in the city. But the car doesn't go up.
It goes up on its own escalator and the sum
stamp I was in all over this.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Can I just say everything is bigger and better in Texas?
You should know that's.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Bigger for sure. And you know what, this has been
fun and I have We're both very excited for next week.
Thank you everybody for listening. I'm glad you got to
say hi to Joan and Nancy.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah. Thanks Jon and Nancy for dropping in with us.
We had a great time. Be sure to follow Bachelor
Happy Hour as we have new episodes coming out every
week that you don't want to miss.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
And you know, listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour
on the iHeartRadio app for wherever you listen to your podcast.
See you next week.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Take care,
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