March 14, 2025 • 50 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into more of your fan questions! We kick off the episode dishing out all our hot takes on the “Women Tell All” — so much drama, so much heartbreak, and SO much to discuss! Then, we get into our question of the day: Do you notice any differences between young men in the dating pool today and the men you dated in your 20s? And, of course, we offer our advice! Our listeners want to know: Is it wrong to get the ick because a guy isn’t doing the “little things”? Should you step in when your bestie’s boyfriend NEVER pays for her? Tune in now to find out how we’re helping our fans navigate this and so much more! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Here we are again, Kathy and I am your service.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We are so happy to be back where we're still laughing.
We're Susan, I do a lot of laughing, but today
we're going to laugh and cry and we're going to
answer more. I know, I know it's been a day,
but we are going to answer more of your fan
questions today, which we always love doing and we're so
glad that you submit them. Keep them coming, we love
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
At Okay, before we get into today's episode, Susan, let's
talk about the women's tell all. Are you ready to
talk about grants?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh? Baby? Well, first of all, all I could think
about was ours. How much fun that day was?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I was thinking, I was looking at the clothes going Yep,
they got.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
The pretty way way way less drama? What ours was?
Way ours? Wait?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Can we just talk about we got it? There's so
much to talk about here. I want to talk about, well,
I want to talk about Carolina's outfit to start with.
I mean, if you didn't have drama, if you didn't
want to call attention to yourself, which you apparently did,
did you catch that outfit? I think it said spread
no evil on the back.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I can't even believe they were allowed to wear writing.
I mean, that was a no no. But it looked
good on her. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I mean, she's got gorgeous hair, she's a beautiful face.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, but I don't size zero.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I know, but didn't you think I just thought though that,
you know it. My whole thing on this episode is
much the way I feel about the entire season. I
love the people, I love Grant, I love the women,
I love the producers. I love everything about this show.
But I just there's a butt here it comes. I
(02:15):
feel like this entire season it's it's like, you know,
playing a dark game and just like just throw it
at Dart and see, Oh, let's talk about that this
week or I just can I've had a.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Gay Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question.
Do you feel this way because we've done this and
we kind of understand how it works. Do you think
that has anything to do with it?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I mean, maybe it has something to do with it,
But my thing is, I keep looking going. I told
you last week, I was like, where did it come from?
From my hometown? Girl? Like she wasn't in it to
begin with, And I just feel like, I don't know,
I feel like some of it is just I think
there's a whole lot more, you know, to the story
and to what happened than what we saw. And you
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gotta remember, it was a shorter season, so I kind
of felt like ours, you know, things condensed a little bit.
What did you think about the whole thing about Carolina
taking responsibility?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I mean, she doesn't understand what that means, just like
Gina said or not Dina, Dina, Dina and Serafina and Serafina.
I love to watch her face, yes, because she doesn't
have a good poker face. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
No, yeah, I feel that. I mean, I just I
think you're right, Carolina either doesn't understand or doesn't want
to understand. I did agree with her point that you know,
she wish Grant could be out there.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And also that she felt attacked all the time. I
get that, but was her attitude, like Dina pointed out
to start with, where she was MOPy and pudy and
you know the rest of the people feel that energy.
Negative energy goes really far, and I tried to run
from it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I don't and that's your nation. Susan has taught me
that put a smile on your face and look for
the best, because if you're not, you're not okay. But
there's so much like little things. I feel like I'm
doing the same thing the show is. I'm darting from thing.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
To think because there's so much to cover in a
couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Okay, what about Dina saying, Carolina, I bought you another week?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I mean big, that was huge.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I mean, we own that ship well.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And then did she though by her I mean maybe
maybe that's how it rolls.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
But was her biggest supporter for a while until she
was affected by it the negativity once again, and then
she fired out. But they did the hug and makeup
thing or was that real?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Wedd a second? Do you remember me saying last week
or whenever it was last week, the week before. Clearly
they're not good friends. Clearly I'm too talking that. So
I think that was fake. I think that was fake
when they it out.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
No, I don't because I could see me doing something
like that and then you don't take sense to me.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So then why were they so so.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
She was still not taking blame for anything, and she
got pissed. Yeah, she was like, hello.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Okay, what did you think of because you know we
can agree to disagree. I don't think that was a
real HU hugging out episode, but the social media think
that's the now. I may be wrong, and I'm sure
you know people writing correct the social media aspect of it.
Where they showed the text, I was like, whoa, and.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
She said, I'll show you the text. But Dina Lawyer
is not taking ship.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Really, but Dina's saying that she put that up to
advertise the show. It's like, come on, Dina, you're a lawyer.
Is anybody buying that? I don't think so she put
it up just to say screw you to Carolina, which,
you know, okay, whatever. Don't you feel like this season
it was like a little more digging.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
For drama fell off to me.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yes, you so you do agree with me?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yes, it almost felt I don't know if maybe the
scene wasn't long enough or showed enough of one thing.
It was more jumping all over the place.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
But that's how I feel, jumping all over That's I
mean that I just keep saying that thing. I think
that Alex was so cute bringing in the Lama and
you know, the no drama. I mean, that was so sweet,
and I felt badly. First, she said it was hard
to watch back because that brought back to me how
hard it was to watch back. You know, we've talked
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about this stuff with Teresa. With me, it was hard
to watch it back because people didn't see what really
happened between you know, on our show.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So it's hard hard for me to watch back that
stupid ice cream games.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
When I answered, pay, attentions and pay, and I felt
badly for Alce when she said there was no clear
reasons she went home, although I got to say I
didn't see him. I mean they were the ones that
went to the Beverly Center, remember that first one. Yeah,
but I never saw much of a connection after that,
(07:16):
did you not?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Afterwards? No? She kept He kept her around for a
little bit because he had to try everybody.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Right, I know, but she was so excited. Just you know,
I feel sorry. Here's the thing as a mom and
you're a mom, and you know we both have daughters.
I just keep watching that saying, how would I feel,
you know, my daughter with a broken heart. It's like
you and I talk about we're so glad we went
home earlier. I mean we still stayed pretty long time,
(07:43):
but we weren't.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We didn't do hometowns.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We didn't do hometowns, and I mean I just kept
thinking no. But even Alex, she really thought they had
a connection. You know, you just feel sorry for them.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Well because he's saying, you know, I see potential in us,
and you want to believe the person talking to you.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's right. What do you think about Sara Fina? I
love her.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I just can't not look at her face. I mean
she tellything without speaking.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, well, I think with her to the point you
were just making I think, oh, Grant, I disagree. She
said she felt validated. He validated her when you know,
when they were talking, everybody so no at the whims
till all. So you know, he said he wanted to
meet her family. She said, I literally jumped off a
(08:32):
bridge for him. You know, her mother wants to her happy.
All those things she felt like he had. I don't
say committed permanently, but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Again, it doesn't every woman that he keeps around. Wouldn't
you look at Leslie? Remember Leslie? She thought? She well,
I think that's the nature of the show.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But that's down to the end. I'm just saying, when
you it's dangerous territory. I think, especially when you're young
and you're telling women that are you know at this
age that you love them or you're fall in love
with them. And I think that's where Sarah, you.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Want to believe it because they're falling for him. But
that's the chance you take on.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yes, but and that's part of being on the show.
But when he says and he did, you know he's
validating her feelings. Then you don't think, hey, I'm a
crazy person. You know, you think this is really going somewhere.
So to be the bluepers of the blue person, Jesus,
I loved it. What what the bluepers were? What really
was that?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Literally literally every one of them said, literally and let
me just say, let me just say, literally, literally, Susan,
I can literally not wait for the finale. Literally I can.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, I'm waiting for the hometowns that I get excited,
not the hometowns, the overnights. I get excited about that
love that real like he wants to hear them. Yeah,
that's the thing about the show. They hold back. I
mean he didn't hold back, but either holding back. Are
you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He was telling them all you think, what who's holding
back the old women.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
When they they want He wants to hear the woman
say I'm in love with you, I'm falling in love with.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
They've all said that the ones that are at hometowns, well, yes,
that point well you know, well, well what's your point?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Three women are going to be in love and two
are going to go home crying.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You know what, Let's find some single guys for him.
You know that they said they're doing paradise. Maybe they'll
bring those three to paradise.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Wait, did you hear Jesse? I heard announcements.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But let's get back. We know this, dude, because no
one cares about us, Susan, because they're afraid we talk
about No, they're afraid will show up uninvited. That's what
they're afraid of. Okay, Diana, I just want to say
quick thing about her. I think she is lovely, clearly,
smart girl, a lawyer. I I think it took a lot. Again,
(11:02):
I think of people, women, my daughter, people, I know you,
and I.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Know anybody as I don't want to use the word
closed off. But she shields herself.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
She calls herself an ice queen nice and she said
she let her walls down a little bit. But you
know what if Diana, if you're listening, I think that
you're smart. I think you're capable, and I think, as
I've always said, if you want to have a chance
at love, you have to open your heart. You have
to risk it. And good for her, I think she just.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Hope she can say after this little burn, she said
she was ready and she does want to get engaged
and have a family, and she's going to be more
aware of her because people feel that it's nothing you're
saying or doing. People feel that. I know if I'm
with somebody that's closed off, Yeah, I feel that vibe,
(11:58):
don't you. Yes.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But the point I think that I'm happy for that.
She opened up a little bit as she said, started
to let herself melt a little bit. I think that
was a really growing experience for being on that show,
and I have high hopes for her, just.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Like you and I shared what we learned about ourselves
and the friendships that we made these young ladies. I mean,
we had way more experience than them. These young ladies
are realizing things about themselves, I hope, and that they'll
take with them for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yes, and you know it is reality TV, but again,
as a mom, as someone who has a daughter, I
think these young ladies will grow from this, and you
know that's good. We got to get back to Carolina
for one more second, because well, I mean we could,
we could spend an hour. But let me just say
Grant told her that they had a gen I went
(12:53):
back and rewound it so I could hear it that
he had a genuine connection with her, and he said
he would always put her first. So I want you
to hear Sarah, Fina and Carolina both felt blindsided, and
I think with good reason. I Grant, I love you, You're handsome, devil.
You're from Houston, where I spent twenty something years. But
I got to say I think you did lead both
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of these ladies on a little bit because you said
to her, Carolina, I will always put you first. If
a man said that to me, I think I'm going
to get a ring.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You know, what was it that he admit to was
sitting with Jesse that he learned from too. Oh, I
found that about the dance. No, he was thinking about that. Yes,
he realized he didn't say it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
He said, I mean to come off. I wrote it down.
He said that. He said he led with love and compassion.
That's what he said. And he said that he could
have been more careful with his words. So how many
times have I said words matter when you tell someone
you're falling in love with them or you'll always put
(14:01):
them first. Those words matter. So you know I do
because believe them. I'm sorry if I.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Tell you you want to believe that.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I do believe them until they give me a reason
not to. That's my point. So you know, I think
a lot of people don't like Carolina, and I think
she's an attention grabber for sure. I think I like
her to. I want her hair. I want her hair,
these damn girls with their gorgeous hair. But anyway, I
thought that I thought of it.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Rose, how do you think she felt talking yesterday?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I mean, she's so sweet and nice. I think she's
just one of those sweet I think she's that girl
you can plant anywhere and show blossom. That's what I
think of her. That was that was a pun. I
forgot her name was Rose.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But you know, bloom and bloom, really blue.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And bluem anywhere. So you know, I think that. But
we've got to get to so. I think the girls
handle as best they could. I think Carolina. Carolina was
beaten up a bit, but we don't know. We weren't there,
we don't know what the edits were. I know I've
been beaten up and I didn't deserve it, so I'm
going to give her a little bit of grace.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Right. Did you notice how many they brought up on
the stage with Jesse to talk?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, that was different. Yes, well I think that, you know.
And then mirror mirror on the wall.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh that was cute.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
The Disney deal. I mean they did a few cute
different things. All right, Well, I cannot wait for next week,
I really cannot. So it's going to be good.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Let's see where it goes, Okay, Kathy I want to
get us started with a question of the day. You know,
we love being I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Okay, let's do it. Let's do it. Now here we go. Okay.
Do you notice any distinct differences between young men today
and men your age when you were young in terms
of how they are romantically? You know, do you think
men nowadays are better, worse, different than the dating pool
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was when we were in our twenties?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You do young men today know what romance is?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Asking me, are telling me, I.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Don't think they're romantic, but I don't date young men,
So I.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Mean, I got to say when you know, when I
was young, it was black and white television, so you know,
we're going back some. But I think when when I
was dating, when I was younger, you date two men.
But in high school, I'm talking about high school, you know,
a date.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Romantically.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I mean I had a guy in high school write
me a poem, and yeah he did.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And in high school.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Everybody thought he was a weirdough and now you wish
you know that's really no one thought he was aware.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Now but I think guys today are Do you think
there is romantic today?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't see it. I don't. Everything's so nonch lot today.
You know, they don't title anything. They hook up if
you will they you know, I never my whole life,
I wanted the romance and and I finally, in my sixties,
recently met someone that is so romantic. So are the words?
(17:32):
I mean, it cross all shi, But.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I believe trust me when she tells you this guy
put a capital R in.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
The word romance.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I don't know, I think, but you know what I
think the difference is, Susan, I really do. It's social media.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Social media, social media, you know, it's the quick text,
It's there's women everywhere that there's you don't have to
work very hard now to have a date. You know,
there're a dime that doesn't, which brings back the whole
commitment issue.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So but when we also, I think that men our
aged today would learn enough about women that they would
know how to play the game and be romantic. Do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Nobody tries well, but that's what I'm saying. It's it's
it's too much work. They can go on Facebook dating
or you know, pick a dating site. Can't any of them?
They can go on and have a date. Oh this
one didn't work out. I have another. They don't feel
the need to exert themselves to get that woman because
(18:39):
there's always another one. At least that's how it feels.
Maybe that's maybe I'm being you know.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I wouldn't say better or worse. I would say different. Yeah, different,
And I really do.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I think social media and dating apps and just a
technology in general. Explain.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You know they have like robots now for men, of course,
not for women yet that they don't need a live person.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
What are you talking about robots.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
To come in their house that they could do it too.
And you know there used to be like blow up dolls.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
But where did you read this? What?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh? Girlfriend? Yeah, it's the times here. Come on looking
up with robots of robots that learns how to kiss me.
I'd never go out of the house again.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Wait, you're telling me, you're telling me.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yes, it's coming, it's coming. Yes, there's a big thing
about it.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I'm just thinking about a man having sex sticking it
in a piece of steel. It just sounds speaking of
no romance.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I think they make him a flushmail. It's probably got
Oh jeez, I we won't even go there all right,
let's get into our fan questions. Go. This one's from anonymous. Hi,
Kathy and Susan. I love your thoughts. I've been seeing
a guy for the past few weeks and I can't
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get over this nagging feeling I have. I'm attracted to him,
I like him, and I know those feelings are mutual.
But here's the thing. He doesn't do the guy things
that I feel like my mom and dad always talked
about when I was young. He doesn't open doors for me,
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fill my glass when it's empty at dinner, the little things.
I never really thought I was someone that cared about
that stuff like that, but it all came to a
head the other night. I got to the restaurant a
few minutes after him, and when I came over to him,
he didn't offer me his seat on the bench while
we waited for our table. Oh my god, is this
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weird that all these things are starting to make me
lose feelings. I don't want to ruin something over silly expectations,
but it's starting to give me the dick. Please help me. Well.
First of all, when I walked into the restaurant a
couple of minutes late and there's standing room only and
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he's sitting and he didn't get up meet Susan. I
probably would have embarrassed him, like are you kidding me
right now? Yeah? But you know what, woman you get up?
Does he have no manners? Sometimes you have to teach
people things. He might not be she's pregnant. I said,
if there was a pregnant woman and a man sitting
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and their standing room only, I would hope that the
man would get up.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And you know what, I hate to say this. This
kind of relates to our question of the day for me,
and I hate saying this, and I'm sure I'm going
to take some flak for it, but I don't think
children are raised with manners anymore. Uh, Anonymous. I feel
sorry for you because he's probably a great guy.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And he might just educate him.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You might you might have to teach him, because that's
not willful, you know, being cruel, that is, he may
just not know, he may not have been trained. You
give up your seat. I literally si your glass and
you just am it's a yeah. I literally walked into
(22:22):
the gym yesterday. It's so funny that we had this
question and there was a guy probably in his mid
to late twenties walking in front of me, and he
heard me walking up because he sort of turned around
and he walked in and just opened the door and
went in and let it go. And I just I thought,
you know, what, do I say something? I thought, no,
because you know, it's not my job to educate him.
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But anonymous, you're dating this guy, so you know you
might say something to him, and depending upon his reaction
right to what you say, if he takes it well,
he might be embarrassed and say, oh my gosh, thanks
for telling me. If he if he's rude, and you know,
and you might want to, you know, trying to.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Picture her walking in and he's still sitting and she's standing.
I can't.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I hate to say it. I've seen it, but I
will tell you my children, and I know your children.
My children were brought up with manners and yes ma'am,
no sir and all that and holding doors and and
people take note of that. So the fact that she's
getting the ick, I get it. I understand it, but
(23:32):
I'd give him the benef for the doubt for a
few minutes.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Don't you feel like a little bit it's a lack
of respect.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Not if you haven't been taught, like.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Be in the world for a minute. People do nice
things for others.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Well, I don't know. Again, how long have they been dating?
You know, how old are they? I just I'd hate
it's not but anonymous, I can tell you what it
isn't You said it's a silly expectation. You don't want
to run over silly expectations. It's not a silly expectation.
You should, absolutely, girlfriend, have the expectation that your partner,
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your boyfriend, your date, any man that you are with
will hold the door for you every time.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You give up with somebody. The right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, so you know, write a letter to his mother,
tell her have a conversation with him, though I said,
for you end it. Yeah, that's what I said. I'd
have the conversation and say, hey, you know, is this
just an oversight or you know, what's the deal because
it bothered me the other night when you didn't get up,
And he might look at her and say, I am
so sorry, I didn't know. I didn't think of it,
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and then they could have a bigger conversation about manners and.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know, or she could present it in a way
where did you see the people look that you didn't
get up. I was embarrassed for you because you're much
better than that.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah you know, make it? Or what's dancing? Or do
you know what? Yeah, dance around it? Be kind or
I just was thinking Christmas, buy him the Emily Post
Book of Etiquette and tell to read it from comfort.
I gave that to my children.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Bok.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I know it's a very big book. Let us know
how it goes, okay. Question The next question is from
anonymous high ladies. I really need your help. I went
on a third date with this guy that I really like,
and everything was going great until we got to the bill.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Oh, the dreaded bill.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I oh, I had third date, Susan, you were going
to go to task on this one. I had secretly
given my card to the waitress so I could treat
He has never voiced to me that anything like that
makes him uncomfortable or offends him, so I thought it
would be a nice surprise. He did not like it.
He was so cold to me and continues to be now.
(26:01):
When I asked what was wrong, he finally told me
he was embarrassed. What do I do? Is this something
I should be concerned about? I don't get what the
big deal is, and I just feel so lost.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh thought, I'm so sorry because I think that was
the sweetest thing to do. I've done it. My guys
didn't get mad. They thanked me.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, well, you know there's reasons for that. I would
I don't think I would do that on a third day.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I would have.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Again, I'm saying I wouldn't have done.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It, but she did it. So what do we tell her?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You tell her that I would apologize and say I
want I was trying to do something sweet. I never
meant to embarrass you. Now I realized I should again
know what she should say is now I realize, and
I'll talk to you about it. If I want to
treat and say, can I get this one and give
you a voice? I'm sorry, I would apologize. I would
never do that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I've done it and the exact same way. And they
were third date.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You hardly know the person.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
If he took me out twice, I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I would wait till the bill came and said, hey,
you took me. You know you've paid the last two bills.
How about I get this one? And it says absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I would.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I just I think you blindsided him.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, and I like that he's upset because, however, you
know what bothers me? What is it a control thing?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't know. But he said he's been cold to
me and continues to be right. That's that is a
could be a red team. We see red red right?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yellow?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, well you know it could be light pink.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
He should say thank you, but there's no need for that.
I no, you're being a dickhead, are you?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Why are you saying the word dick so many times?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't know, it's just coming out today. I made
lemonade out of my lemon, so we're lucky. That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Okay, all right, anyway, that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I will swollowed the something as well. I shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
To help, not today, No, anyway, just anonymous. I really
would have the conversation with him and apologize and say
you didn't mean to offend him. Quite to the contrary,
you are trying to do something sweet. But you know what,
if he continues to be an asshole and cold, then
you got a bigger problem on your hand.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Than those who hell Kathy today assholes? She said it.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I don't like men who are mean.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I don't like the mean people. And you know what,
if he cheaps the cold shoulder, you're the one that's
going to get upset and let him know you are listen.
If he's trying to do something nice and you're going
to treat me like this, over it, I apologize. I
thought I was doing something sweet. I wanted to make
you smile. Let's get past this, or let's know fat
(28:46):
he gives over. If he can't get past it, you
know what she should do. Here's your hat? What's your hurry? Audios?
Bye bye? All right? Give me the money for the
bill that I just paid.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, you want to be that You want to be
that ass you're saying, asshole, you want to be that guy?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Pay me for the We don't hear things like that.
Usually that's really something that we don't hear often. Good
for you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're sweet. Anonymous Okay, another
(29:23):
anonymous nobody wants to give their names today. Hey, ladies,
I have a big dilemma. I need your help. How
do I make my best friend realize that her boyfriend
is a major all caps mooch. He hasn't paid for
anything for her and over a year, including gifts for
her birthday, et cetera. They've been together for a year
(29:46):
and three months. The math isn't mething. He always eats
her food, needs her to drive him places. Is just
so exhausting. I can tell I don't want to hurt
her feelings or make her unhappy, but there's no way
he's good for her. How do I have this conversation?
Can I just give us the cancers? She noticed?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Who asked you, Anonymous? If she's happy? What's it to you?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Kathy? I cannot believe those words came out of here. Man. Oh,
if it were me and you saw me doing this
for somebody, you'd be beating my ear until I got it.
Come on, they're friends, Tell that you're would you or
would you not? Now that I said it that way?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Wait a minute? Has fair enough? I think fair enough?
Fair enough? However, I'm going out on a limb. I
don't think that Anonymous has not voiced her opinion already.
I don't think she's been sitting back quietly as I
would not for a year and a half. And after
(30:50):
they've been together for a year and three months, Anonymous
decides to write us because she just popped popped it
and can't control herself any longer. I think Anonymous has
probably spoken to her friend about this, and her friend
is continuing the pavior And that's why I jumped to
it and said, what's it to you? If she's happy?
And Susan, you know, haven't I not gotten to a
(31:12):
point where I said, well, find if that's what you want.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Susan not absolutely, but you're going to beat it that
horse until she hears you, though you would cheap saying it,
until I get it, and then I can make my
own no.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No, no, no, until no, until you say to me
what you've done not about this.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I hear you, and I don't care. I want to
do a b and say I'm like, okay, great, you
need to help me here, okay, because Anonymous didn't help me,
now I need to. I always will help you.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
He hasn't paid for anything for her an over year,
including gifts for her birthday. Who's paying for them?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I think? No? I think what Anonymous means is she
didn't articulate her thoughts. Clearly, he just didn't get her one.
That would be my take.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Okay, is your girlfriend desperate that she wants a man
so bad that she's going to do I mean, I
used to be a big giver, like I'll let you
walk over from me, give you a give. But she
has needs something in return.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Well, maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. Maybe she's too young. Again,
we don't know their ages. We don't know, you know,
is this her first boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
We don't know, have this conversation. She doesn't.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Well, she said that one time. You say it one time, Anonymous,
you say, let me let let's role play here, Susan,
you've been dating Jerry. No, you've been dating Dick. We're
going to keep with that name today. You've been dating
Dick for a year and three months and he's never
bought you a birthday present. He comes to your house,
(32:49):
he fills his face out of your refrigerator, He never
takes you for dinner. And when we you do car
for dinner, you pay for it. What do you see
in this guy?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
He must be really satisfied. I'm asking you, I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
We're role playing.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, that's what you guys could do it though I
couldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
So there's some reason why I's wrong with this picture. Yeah,
there's there's something we're not getting out of this story. Yeah, so,
I mean, but I don't do her best friend?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You could, if you haven't already, just say that you
can't help, but notice and ask her does she notice?
How do you feel about it? And then whatever the
answer is, accept it, yep, and stay her best friend.
You'll pick up the pieces after. Yes, that's right, but
don't let her do anything major.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
And and and you know what, anonymous, you're you're probably right.
He's probably not good for her because ultimately, ultimately that
kind of behavior gets really old, really fast, and.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Obviously not fast enough if she still does, not fast enough.
But you know, she here again the girlfriend, not the
friend that's talking to us. But what kind of childhood
shod she have? What are you attracting? Like? All that
comes into play, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
We don't know, but being a.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Friend would bring her light to it.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Like, but she's not going to change her, No, she's not.
You're not going to change her. But anonymously, you know what,
You're lucky, she's lucky to have a great friend in you.
You're a good friend, and you know, just be there. Hopefully,
hopefully she'll come to her senses and you can pick
up the pieces and hopefully I know what's wrong with
(34:34):
men that do that? What do you?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I don't know? You know, you know, sometimes they're really
good men. Once again, I'm going to give them a
benefit of the doubt. They don't even know any better.
They're spoiled, rotten, you know, they're just stupid and they
got to be taught. And sometimes it takes losing somebody, yeah,
to learn.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I don't I don't. I mean at my age or
our age. I don't want to teach her man the door.
I can't teach old dogs new tricks. I mean, yeah,
I have another funny thing, but I'm not going to
say it. Yes, Anonymous, let us know, let us know. Please,
you know, we've had several questions where we need more information.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And we've got a few responses.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Write so please, Anonymous, write us an update. That's where
I always tell you about a Bachelor nation dot com
slash Golden hour. That's where you will write us an update.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Please do it, or even have her write it. Really,
she realizes what the hell's going on? All right? We
got icky or picky? What a day? Okay, we're going
to do another round of icky or picky. Kathy. I'm
going to have you.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Start with the first one today, he says, my lady
un ironically, which means that's how he referred a lady milady.
I dated a guy who said mulady, and I went,
you're who like what? No, my name is Kathy, get it,
(36:08):
learn it, learn it now? Just I mean if he
gets you know what it is for men they date
so many women they call him all milady. You know,
I think it's I think it's I don't think it's icky.
I think it's picky, but yeah, it's pretty. He always
talks with his mouthful.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Icky beyond picky and ooh this is an oo no way.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Okay, he's a massive sore loser during board games. That's
ikey to me.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
So it can't be like you baby, grow a pair
really icky. Okay, he has really long fingernails. First I
would be vomiting, and then I first think the manicured
and very clean. No, it wouldn't be so icky.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
No, it would for me a man with really long
fingers mine long, like long like long long? Can you
spell it? L O N G?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
My rugged, dude, that's gonna hold my hand. I don't
want his nails longer than mine. Ikey, you know what.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I swear to God. We just took a tour guide,
a tour boat around the as he had it. What
I can't even talk. We just went around the world
for you to say it was Ikey, Really he's transitioning.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
What you got any other an open mind? You know,
be open? It didn't say what guy was he? It's
just as he has well is he r he? You
know what I mean? We don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
He's not gonna be my heat for long. And he's
got really long fingernails. I don't care if he's transitioning
or not.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Okay, he always wears ripped basketball shorts and a T
shirt that never matches.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Let me just tell you wait, wait, let me just say,
do you hear Susan? She wants to know exactly, Like,
if you're gardening, mowing the yard, it's okay, Susan the
fashion Queen, Yeah that's okay. But if you are you know,
if you're taking out for dinner, your toast, your you've
been kicked. Look at she's making a face. You're kicked
to the street. I mean, you are done. If you
sharpen that.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
If he but a basketball shorts kind of girl.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
He always wears basketball shorts, So that tells me it's
like you need an excuse.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
That want to help him? Yeah, that's icky, that's ticky.
All right?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Where are we? He over explains a joke every time
you don't laugh?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It's pathetic.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
It's pathetic, but it's picky.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
But you know what, it is picky because I sit
through them and pre time make myself laugh and I
want to kill myself sometimes.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
No, but he's always explaining a joke, like, you know what.
I've known people who do that, and it's like I
got it.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I got it the first time. It just wasn't funny.
Please don't repeat it.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Really.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
He posts really sad lyrics but refuses to talk about
his feelings when asked.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Well, to me, that's that's a cry for help. That's
a cry for help. That's that might be a deal
break around the relationship. I mean, if he can't talk
about his feelings, that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Postman don't really open up that easily. But if you're
going to post sad lyrics, that's cry for help.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I think I think he needs prozac, all right, fist
or all the above. He refuses to try new foods.
Oh god, you know for me, that's an ick. I
gotta be.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I dated a guy I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
You know the guy I'm talking about it d'ing for
like ten months and the whole thing was icky. But
he ate the same thing for lunch every day and
the same thing for breakfast. It's like OCD. And I
would say to him, how about you.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Know, try this yeah, yeah croissant. No.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
But you know what when he refused that to me
was what do I want to say? It spoke more
about who he was a person. Yeah. In other words,
it had broader implications than just trying.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, he still uses Snapchat, so what Okay, I never
even knew what that was. My kids. If I want
to see anything, I got a look on Snapchat. What
I don't like is it disappears you post it for
a minute. I go back to show somebody my.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Grand stories on instagram Susan, They're there for twenty four
hours and then they're gone. Learn your social media.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Well, my kids know now. If you're going to do
that shit, take a copy and send me my own.
If it's about my grandchildren, I want the picture. Don't
make me look on Snapchat. It's a whole nother thing.
I got it.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I can. I just tell you, I don't know anyone
who uses Snapchat except your children. I really don't.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
There's one hundred million people that use.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Oh I'm sure there are. I just don't know that
many people.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
All the young ones in Bachelor World they do. Oh yeah,
because I remember taking pose in with the four pick
I thought they used TikTok Bachelor Nation. No, because Snapchat
they do. They could share it, but only for a minute,
or you can save it to a story like and
I go, oh, you're using Snapchat? Something about the camera?
(41:33):
You got to ask the young one. But a lot
of them do still use it?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
All right, all right.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
He asks you to do everything because you do it better.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
He's a lazy boy cop belt. Yeah, I do do
it better, but I'm not doing it. That's right.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
That is icky.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, that's that's lazy. He takes forever to respond to
text messages but responds to you a sap on Instagram.
Problem why I know my next question exactly? Why?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Why live on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
How could you not see a text? Man?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Maybe he's an influencer, miss misgiving them benefit of the doubt.
Maybe he's an influence.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
So what you'd still get a text. He'll respond to
you on Instagram, but he won't respond because he's probably
on Instagram. Maybe that's your phone. The phone is still
in your hand, could be an ipadic comm anything. Maybe
he's got his message of silence.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
How does it feel taking the trip around the world
to answer a simple question? You enjoying it? How's it
working for you?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Look, don't make me wait for a response for my
text message, because that's the only way I talk to people.
I don't really answer the phone much.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
No, No, let me just tell you, Susan, especially if
she's dating someone, the guy that the dots are still
blinking is he's texting. She's already writing back. She's already
writing back. You don't have to wait long for Susan.
Am I right?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
But if I'm in a situation where I can't respond,
here's the bad part. I want to and then I forget,
and then I'm accused of just ignoring, like, oh my god,
oh my god, I'm so sorry. It was two days
ago I never responded to So.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
So do you check your text message? There's so many yes,
text messages, not Instagram messages. I get a lot of texts.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
All day every day from home. Tell me, oh my god,
So I'm on a couple groups from the new show
that's coming. Yeah, and you're on a family chap and
then my family and then my girlfriends. How many times
do we text to day?
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Ka? Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I got Nancy, I got my cousin, I got Lottie,
I got girlfriends, guy friends. Can I tell you today?
I must have had six hundred because it was my birthday? Unbelievable.
Do you got to.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Respond when you text your family? Your children? Do they
respond right away?
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yes? Except for Nick.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
My kids. My kids don't, but you know what.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Right away?
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
And if Chris he'll do it for work. And if
you don't respond to Chris right away, yo, ma yo
yo ma. Did you even read it? Like?
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, I have so. I don't know if you have this,
but I have emergency phones with my two of my
kids that live here, so if I call them, even
if they're like in a meeting, it'll ring, even if
their phone is silenced. That's what emergency contact is. And
so they both looked at me and said, don't abuse it.
I just be itching sometimes I've never done it. Actually,
(44:50):
you know what's no wait, let me tell you why
this happened. Less I sound ridiculous because I broke my
leg a couple of years ago. Answer I the one
answered I called. I had to call nine one one
because I could not get up. It was awful. My
leg was turned funny. I couldn't get up off the floor.
I had to call nine one one, which was very
traumatic for me because I don't like ami hearing sirens,
(45:13):
and so my kids after that, they they called. Actually, no,
that was when I broke my wrist. I take it
back and own my leg, my wrist and I couldn't
drive because my hand was turned very I definitely yes,
and so it was bad. But they felt so badly
that now they put me on this emergency thing. So
(45:34):
you know, they'll answer that if it.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Is it time that we have to wear the thing
around our neck life alert.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Oh god, oh no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
If I go down, go down and stay down, I fallen?
What is that happen? And I couldn't get up or
something like my cell phone's not here.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
I'll tell you It's why I tell Nancy all the time,
my dear friend Nancy.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
I don't think Nancy pays attention to her phone too
much because when we call, she goes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
She's so sweet about it.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
She did in here or she didn't say it like you.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Good to her though she's not married to her phone.
She's not married to her. I don't know this was
this was a barrel of laugh.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
And so let's talk about your hair for a second
before we go. Okay, So, Kathy, Yeah, spring is in
the air, and I think you're thinking of a new look.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I just I just feel like my hair. I feel
like I look like the Dutch boy pink. Can you
know my hair is straight and it's brown. All I
need is bangs to finish off the look.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I send a curtain bang would change it up a
little bit, gets a movement in it. I don't ye
you're thinking about changing the color.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
I just like my hair is so dark. This is
just slightly darker than my original color, than my natural color. Yeah,
and so I just thought, you know, I don't I
never want to be a blonde. I've never wanted to
be a blonde. But I'm just thinking like a light
or might might not make me look because I have
(47:04):
I'm skipped so pale. I feel like it's such a stark.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
That's what he's striking about. Dark hair and pale skin.
They say blondes having more fun. I'd like you to
try and let me know.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Well, what about half blondes? Does that mean I have
half as much fun? No, seriously, I would love it.
People write in should I lighten my hair? Not not
helmet blonde, like not platinum blonde, but just like chunks
of blonde, so I could I could look like.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Much lighter, much much lighter, with some highlights.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Highlights, And then what do you think should I do it?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
What do you Susan? What do you think? I want
to know what people think I really do.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
But you're a hairdresser, you don't.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I know what I think, but it takes what I'm
trying to explain to Kathy. It doesn't happen overnight. So
you're going to go through phases that you're not going
to like. And I know you, patience is not one
of the things that either one of us are good at.
And you're gonna go, oh my god, oh my god, no,
I don't like this and destroy and bring it right back.
(48:06):
But you have to get through.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Me and I have to move. Wait, does this mean
I get to move to Philly? My husband loved blonde.
I was the first. I mean, if he were sitting
here right now, he would tell me to go blonde.
I promise he would. Men love blonde.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
We'll try it.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Well, well, my husband's not here anymore, so we're not.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Doing it for him, doing it for you? All right?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
This was so much.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
I don't do it in one condition. What you don't
give up midway? You gotta give me three months? Oh
I would be married in three months. Well for you,
you get to touch up every three weeks, so three, six, nine, twelve, yeah,
three months.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
I can't afford it. I can't afford it, all right?
This we well, seriously, people, if you have an opinion.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Talk about it. Well, stay timber. We want to know
what you guys think.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
So please, if.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I'm going to do all this work, I want your
input before I do it. And she starts reading, don't
do it, cat, don't do it, cat, She's gonna go No.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
Wait. Also, you may send donations to pay Susan to
do all this to bachelornation dot com because I can't
afford it, all right, all right, let's go here, time
to go.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I guess that's it for today.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
What do you think of Well? I hope people are
still going to fall on Bachelor Happy Hour, So make
sure you follow us because we do have all those
new episodes coming out every week. And if you're a
new listener, please weigh in on my hair and keep
us and welcome, welcome, aboard and submit some questions to us.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Everybody, keep them coming because you can go to bachelornation
dot com, slash Golden Hour, or just dm us on
Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. We're here to listen. We're
here to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
And we love hearing from you.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Guys here disagree and agree and agree, and we want
you and we.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Want to figure out my hair. But until we figure
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Speaker 2 (50:10):
And if she looks good blonde, I might consider it now.
Thanks for joining us,
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Here we are again, Kathy and I am your service.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
We are so happy to be back where we're still laughing.
We're Susan, I do a lot of laughing, but today
we're going to laugh and cry and we're going to
answer more. I know, I know it's been a day,
but we are going to answer more of your fan
questions today, which we always love doing and we're so
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
At Okay, before we get into today's episode, Susan, let's
talk about the women's tell all. Are you ready to
talk about grants?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh? Baby? Well, first of all, all I could think
about was ours. How much fun that day was?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I was thinking, I was looking at the clothes going Yep,
they got.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
The pretty way way way less drama? What ours was?
Way ours? Wait?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Can we just talk about we got it? There's so
much to talk about here. I want to talk about, well,
I want to talk about Carolina's outfit to start with.
I mean, if you didn't have drama, if you didn't
want to call attention to yourself, which you apparently did,
did you catch that outfit? I think it said spread
no evil on the back.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I can't even believe they were allowed to wear writing.
I mean, that was a no no. But it looked
good on her. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I mean, she's got gorgeous hair, she's a beautiful face.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, but I don't size zero.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I know, but didn't you think I just thought though that,
you know it. My whole thing on this episode is
much the way I feel about the entire season. I
love the people, I love Grant, I love the women,
I love the producers. I love everything about this show.
But I just there's a butt here it comes. I
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feel like this entire season it's it's like, you know,
playing a dark game and just like just throw it
at Dart and see, Oh, let's talk about that this
week or I just can I've had a.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Gay Let me ask you. Let me ask you a question.
Do you feel this way because we've done this and
we kind of understand how it works. Do you think
that has anything to do with it?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I mean, maybe it has something to do with it,
But my thing is, I keep looking going. I told
you last week, I was like, where did it come from?
From my hometown? Girl? Like she wasn't in it to
begin with, And I just feel like, I don't know,
I feel like some of it is just I think
there's a whole lot more, you know, to the story
and to what happened than what we saw. And you
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gotta remember, it was a shorter season, so I kind
of felt like ours, you know, things condensed a little bit.
What did you think about the whole thing about Carolina
taking responsibility?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
I mean, she doesn't understand what that means, just like
Gina said or not Dina, Dina, Dina and Serafina and Serafina.
I love to watch her face, yes, because she doesn't
have a good poker face. Right.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
No, yeah, I feel that. I mean, I just I
think you're right, Carolina either doesn't understand or doesn't want
to understand. I did agree with her point that you know,
she wish Grant could be out there.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And also that she felt attacked all the time. I
get that, but was her attitude, like Dina pointed out
to start with, where she was MOPy and pudy and
you know the rest of the people feel that energy.
Negative energy goes really far, and I tried to run
from it.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I don't and that's your nation. Susan has taught me
that put a smile on your face and look for
the best, because if you're not, you're not okay. But
there's so much like little things. I feel like I'm
doing the same thing the show is. I'm darting from thing.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
To think because there's so much to cover in a
couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Okay, what about Dina saying, Carolina, I bought you another week?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
I mean big, that was huge.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I mean, we own that ship well.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
And then did she though by her I mean maybe
maybe that's how it rolls.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
But was her biggest supporter for a while until she
was affected by it the negativity once again, and then
she fired out. But they did the hug and makeup
thing or was that real?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Wedd a second? Do you remember me saying last week
or whenever it was last week, the week before. Clearly
they're not good friends. Clearly I'm too talking that. So
I think that was fake. I think that was fake
when they it out.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
No, I don't because I could see me doing something
like that and then you don't take sense to me.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
So then why were they so so.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
She was still not taking blame for anything, and she
got pissed. Yeah, she was like, hello.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Okay, what did you think of because you know we
can agree to disagree. I don't think that was a
real HU hugging out episode, but the social media think
that's the now. I may be wrong, and I'm sure
you know people writing correct the social media aspect of it.
Where they showed the text, I was like, whoa, and.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
She said, I'll show you the text. But Dina Lawyer
is not taking ship.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Really, but Dina's saying that she put that up to
advertise the show. It's like, come on, Dina, you're a lawyer.
Is anybody buying that? I don't think so she put
it up just to say screw you to Carolina, which,
you know, okay, whatever. Don't you feel like this season
it was like a little more digging.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
For drama fell off to me.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yes, you so you do agree with me?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yes, it almost felt I don't know if maybe the
scene wasn't long enough or showed enough of one thing.
It was more jumping all over the place.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
But that's how I feel, jumping all over That's I
mean that I just keep saying that thing. I think
that Alex was so cute bringing in the Lama and
you know, the no drama. I mean, that was so sweet,
and I felt badly. First, she said it was hard
to watch back because that brought back to me how
hard it was to watch back. You know, we've talked
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about this stuff with Teresa. With me, it was hard
to watch it back because people didn't see what really
happened between you know, on our show.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So it's hard hard for me to watch back that
stupid ice cream games.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
When I answered, pay, attentions and pay, and I felt
badly for Alce when she said there was no clear
reasons she went home, although I got to say I
didn't see him. I mean they were the ones that
went to the Beverly Center, remember that first one. Yeah,
but I never saw much of a connection after that,
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did you not?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Afterwards? No? She kept He kept her around for a
little bit because he had to try everybody.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Right, I know, but she was so excited. Just you know,
I feel sorry. Here's the thing as a mom and
you're a mom, and you know we both have daughters.
I just keep watching that saying, how would I feel,
you know, my daughter with a broken heart. It's like
you and I talk about we're so glad we went
home earlier. I mean we still stayed pretty long time,
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but we weren't.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
We didn't do hometowns.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We didn't do hometowns, and I mean I just kept
thinking no. But even Alex, she really thought they had
a connection. You know, you just feel sorry for them.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Well because he's saying, you know, I see potential in us,
and you want to believe the person talking to you.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
That's right. What do you think about Sara Fina? I
love her.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I just can't not look at her face. I mean
she tellything without speaking.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, well, I think with her to the point you
were just making I think, oh, Grant, I disagree. She
said she felt validated. He validated her when you know,
when they were talking, everybody so no at the whims
till all. So you know, he said he wanted to
meet her family. She said, I literally jumped off a
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bridge for him. You know, her mother wants to her happy.
All those things she felt like he had. I don't
say committed permanently, but.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Again, it doesn't every woman that he keeps around. Wouldn't
you look at Leslie? Remember Leslie? She thought? She well,
I think that's the nature of the show.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
But that's down to the end. I'm just saying, when
you it's dangerous territory. I think, especially when you're young
and you're telling women that are you know at this
age that you love them or you're fall in love
with them. And I think that's where Sarah, you.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Want to believe it because they're falling for him. But
that's the chance you take on.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yes, but and that's part of being on the show.
But when he says and he did, you know he's
validating her feelings. Then you don't think, hey, I'm a
crazy person. You know, you think this is really going somewhere.
So to be the bluepers of the blue person, Jesus,
I loved it. What what the bluepers were? What really
was that?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Literally literally every one of them said, literally and let
me just say, let me just say, literally, literally, Susan,
I can literally not wait for the finale. Literally I can.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Well, I'm waiting for the hometowns that I get excited,
not the hometowns, the overnights. I get excited about that
love that real like he wants to hear them. Yeah,
that's the thing about the show. They hold back. I
mean he didn't hold back, but either holding back. Are
you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
He was telling them all you think, what who's holding
back the old women.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
When they they want He wants to hear the woman
say I'm in love with you, I'm falling in love with.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
They've all said that the ones that are at hometowns, well, yes,
that point well you know, well, well what's your point?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Three women are going to be in love and two
are going to go home crying.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
You know what, Let's find some single guys for him.
You know that they said they're doing paradise. Maybe they'll
bring those three to paradise.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Wait, did you hear Jesse? I heard announcements.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
But let's get back. We know this, dude, because no
one cares about us, Susan, because they're afraid we talk
about No, they're afraid will show up uninvited. That's what
they're afraid of. Okay, Diana, I just want to say
quick thing about her. I think she is lovely, clearly,
smart girl, a lawyer. I I think it took a lot. Again,
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I think of people, women, my daughter, people, I know you,
and I.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Know anybody as I don't want to use the word
closed off. But she shields herself.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
She calls herself an ice queen nice and she said
she let her walls down a little bit. But you
know what if Diana, if you're listening, I think that
you're smart. I think you're capable, and I think, as
I've always said, if you want to have a chance
at love, you have to open your heart. You have
to risk it. And good for her, I think she just.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Hope she can say after this little burn, she said
she was ready and she does want to get engaged
and have a family, and she's going to be more
aware of her because people feel that it's nothing you're
saying or doing. People feel that. I know if I'm
with somebody that's closed off, Yeah, I feel that vibe,
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don't you. Yes.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
But the point I think that I'm happy for that.
She opened up a little bit as she said, started
to let herself melt a little bit. I think that
was a really growing experience for being on that show,
and I have high hopes for her, just.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Like you and I shared what we learned about ourselves
and the friendships that we made these young ladies. I mean,
we had way more experience than them. These young ladies
are realizing things about themselves, I hope, and that they'll
take with them for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yes, and you know it is reality TV, but again,
as a mom, as someone who has a daughter, I
think these young ladies will grow from this, and you
know that's good. We got to get back to Carolina
for one more second, because well, I mean we could,
we could spend an hour. But let me just say
Grant told her that they had a gen I went
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back and rewound it so I could hear it that
he had a genuine connection with her, and he said
he would always put her first. So I want you
to hear Sarah, Fina and Carolina both felt blindsided, and
I think with good reason. I Grant, I love you, You're handsome, devil.
You're from Houston, where I spent twenty something years. But
I got to say I think you did lead both
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of these ladies on a little bit because you said
to her, Carolina, I will always put you first. If
a man said that to me, I think I'm going
to get a ring.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You know, what was it that he admit to was
sitting with Jesse that he learned from too. Oh, I
found that about the dance. No, he was thinking about that. Yes,
he realized he didn't say it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
He said, I mean to come off. I wrote it down.
He said that. He said he led with love and compassion.
That's what he said. And he said that he could
have been more careful with his words. So how many
times have I said words matter when you tell someone
you're falling in love with them or you'll always put
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them first. Those words matter. So you know I do
because believe them. I'm sorry if I.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Tell you you want to believe that.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I do believe them until they give me a reason
not to. That's my point. So you know, I think
a lot of people don't like Carolina, and I think
she's an attention grabber for sure. I think I like
her to. I want her hair. I want her hair,
these damn girls with their gorgeous hair. But anyway, I
thought that I thought of it.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Rose, how do you think she felt talking yesterday?
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I mean, she's so sweet and nice. I think she's
just one of those sweet I think she's that girl
you can plant anywhere and show blossom. That's what I
think of her. That was that was a pun. I
forgot her name was Rose.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
But you know, bloom and bloom, really blue.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
And bluem anywhere. So you know, I think that. But
we've got to get to so. I think the girls
handle as best they could. I think Carolina. Carolina was
beaten up a bit, but we don't know. We weren't there,
we don't know what the edits were. I know I've
been beaten up and I didn't deserve it, so I'm
going to give her a little bit of grace.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Right. Did you notice how many they brought up on
the stage with Jesse to talk?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah, that was different. Yes, well I think that, you know.
And then mirror mirror on the wall.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh that was cute.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
The Disney deal. I mean they did a few cute
different things. All right, Well, I cannot wait for next week,
I really cannot. So it's going to be good.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Let's see where it goes, Okay, Kathy I want to
get us started with a question of the day. You know,
we love being I love it.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Okay, let's do it. Let's do it. Now here we go. Okay.
Do you notice any distinct differences between young men today
and men your age when you were young in terms
of how they are romantically? You know, do you think
men nowadays are better, worse, different than the dating pool
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was when we were in our twenties?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
You do young men today know what romance is?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Asking me, are telling me, I.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Don't think they're romantic, but I don't date young men,
So I.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Mean, I got to say when you know, when I
was young, it was black and white television, so you know,
we're going back some. But I think when when I
was dating, when I was younger, you date two men.
But in high school, I'm talking about high school, you know,
a date.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Romantically.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
I mean I had a guy in high school write
me a poem, and yeah he did.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And in high school.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It was so sweet.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Everybody thought he was a weirdough and now you wish
you know that's really no one thought he was aware.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Now but I think guys today are Do you think
there is romantic today?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I don't see it. I don't. Everything's so nonch lot today.
You know, they don't title anything. They hook up if
you will they you know, I never my whole life,
I wanted the romance and and I finally, in my sixties,
recently met someone that is so romantic. So are the words?
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I mean, it cross all shi, But.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I believe trust me when she tells you this guy
put a capital R in.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
The word romance.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
I don't know, I think, but you know what I
think the difference is, Susan, I really do. It's social media.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Social media, social media, you know, it's the quick text,
It's there's women everywhere that there's you don't have to
work very hard now to have a date. You know,
there're a dime that doesn't, which brings back the whole
commitment issue.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
So but when we also, I think that men our
aged today would learn enough about women that they would
know how to play the game and be romantic. Do
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Nobody tries well, but that's what I'm saying. It's it's
it's too much work. They can go on Facebook dating
or you know, pick a dating site. Can't any of them?
They can go on and have a date. Oh this
one didn't work out. I have another. They don't feel
the need to exert themselves to get that woman because
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there's always another one. At least that's how it feels.
Maybe that's maybe I'm being you know.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I wouldn't say better or worse. I would say different. Yeah, different,
And I really do.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I think social media and dating apps and just a
technology in general. Explain.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You know they have like robots now for men, of course,
not for women yet that they don't need a live person.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
What are you talking about robots.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
To come in their house that they could do it too.
And you know there used to be like blow up dolls.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
But where did you read this? What?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
What?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Oh? Girlfriend? Yeah, it's the times here. Come on looking
up with robots of robots that learns how to kiss me.
I'd never go out of the house again.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Wait, you're telling me, you're telling me.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yes, it's coming, it's coming. Yes, there's a big thing
about it.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
I'm just thinking about a man having sex sticking it
in a piece of steel. It just sounds speaking of
no romance.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I think they make him a flushmail. It's probably got
Oh jeez, I we won't even go there all right,
let's get into our fan questions. Go. This one's from anonymous. Hi,
Kathy and Susan. I love your thoughts. I've been seeing
a guy for the past few weeks and I can't
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get over this nagging feeling I have. I'm attracted to him,
I like him, and I know those feelings are mutual.
But here's the thing. He doesn't do the guy things
that I feel like my mom and dad always talked
about when I was young. He doesn't open doors for me,
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fill my glass when it's empty at dinner, the little things.
I never really thought I was someone that cared about
that stuff like that, but it all came to a
head the other night. I got to the restaurant a
few minutes after him, and when I came over to him,
he didn't offer me his seat on the bench while
we waited for our table. Oh my god, is this
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weird that all these things are starting to make me
lose feelings. I don't want to ruin something over silly expectations,
but it's starting to give me the dick. Please help me. Well.
First of all, when I walked into the restaurant a
couple of minutes late and there's standing room only and
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he's sitting and he didn't get up meet Susan. I
probably would have embarrassed him, like are you kidding me
right now? Yeah? But you know what, woman you get up?
Does he have no manners? Sometimes you have to teach
people things. He might not be she's pregnant. I said,
if there was a pregnant woman and a man sitting
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and their standing room only, I would hope that the
man would get up.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
And you know what, I hate to say this. This
kind of relates to our question of the day for me,
and I hate saying this, and I'm sure I'm going
to take some flak for it, but I don't think
children are raised with manners anymore. Uh, Anonymous. I feel
sorry for you because he's probably a great guy.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
And he might just educate him.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
You might you might have to teach him, because that's
not willful, you know, being cruel, that is, he may
just not know, he may not have been trained. You
give up your seat. I literally si your glass and
you just am it's a yeah. I literally walked into
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the gym yesterday. It's so funny that we had this
question and there was a guy probably in his mid
to late twenties walking in front of me, and he
heard me walking up because he sort of turned around
and he walked in and just opened the door and
went in and let it go. And I just I thought,
you know, what, do I say something? I thought, no,
because you know, it's not my job to educate him.
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But anonymous, you're dating this guy, so you know you
might say something to him, and depending upon his reaction
right to what you say, if he takes it well,
he might be embarrassed and say, oh my gosh, thanks
for telling me. If he if he's rude, and you know,
and you might want to, you know, trying to.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Picture her walking in and he's still sitting and she's standing.
I can't.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
I hate to say it. I've seen it, but I
will tell you my children, and I know your children.
My children were brought up with manners and yes ma'am,
no sir and all that and holding doors and and
people take note of that. So the fact that she's
getting the ick, I get it. I understand it, but
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I'd give him the benef for the doubt for a
few minutes.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Don't you feel like a little bit it's a lack
of respect.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Not if you haven't been taught, like.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Be in the world for a minute. People do nice
things for others.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Well, I don't know. Again, how long have they been dating?
You know, how old are they? I just I'd hate
it's not but anonymous, I can tell you what it
isn't You said it's a silly expectation. You don't want
to run over silly expectations. It's not a silly expectation.
You should, absolutely, girlfriend, have the expectation that your partner,
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your boyfriend, your date, any man that you are with
will hold the door for you every time.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You give up with somebody. The right thing to do.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Yeah, so you know, write a letter to his mother,
tell her have a conversation with him, though I said,
for you end it. Yeah, that's what I said. I'd
have the conversation and say, hey, you know, is this
just an oversight or you know, what's the deal because
it bothered me the other night when you didn't get up,
And he might look at her and say, I am
so sorry, I didn't know. I didn't think of it,
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and then they could have a bigger conversation about manners and.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
You know, or she could present it in a way
where did you see the people look that you didn't
get up. I was embarrassed for you because you're much
better than that.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah you know, make it? Or what's dancing? Or do
you know what? Yeah, dance around it? Be kind or
I just was thinking Christmas, buy him the Emily Post
Book of Etiquette and tell to read it from comfort.
I gave that to my children.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Bok.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I know it's a very big book. Let us know
how it goes, okay. Question The next question is from
anonymous high ladies. I really need your help. I went
on a third date with this guy that I really like,
and everything was going great until we got to the bill.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Oh, the dreaded bill.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I oh, I had third date, Susan, you were going
to go to task on this one. I had secretly
given my card to the waitress so I could treat
He has never voiced to me that anything like that
makes him uncomfortable or offends him, so I thought it
would be a nice surprise. He did not like it.
He was so cold to me and continues to be now.
(26:01):
When I asked what was wrong, he finally told me
he was embarrassed. What do I do? Is this something
I should be concerned about? I don't get what the
big deal is, and I just feel so lost.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh thought, I'm so sorry because I think that was
the sweetest thing to do. I've done it. My guys
didn't get mad. They thanked me.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah, well, you know there's reasons for that. I would
I don't think I would do that on a third day.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
I would have.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Again, I'm saying I wouldn't have done.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It, but she did it. So what do we tell her?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
You tell her that I would apologize and say I
want I was trying to do something sweet. I never
meant to embarrass you. Now I realized I should again
know what she should say is now I realize, and
I'll talk to you about it. If I want to
treat and say, can I get this one and give
you a voice? I'm sorry, I would apologize. I would
never do that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I've done it and the exact same way. And they
were third date.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
You hardly know the person.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
If he took me out twice, I wouldn't mind.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
I would wait till the bill came and said, hey,
you took me. You know you've paid the last two bills.
How about I get this one? And it says absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I would.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I just I think you blindsided him.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, and I like that he's upset because, however, you
know what bothers me? What is it a control thing?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't know. But he said he's been cold to
me and continues to be right. That's that is a
could be a red team. We see red red right?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yellow?
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, well you know it could be light pink.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
He should say thank you, but there's no need for that.
I no, you're being a dickhead, are you?
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Why are you saying the word dick so many times?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
I don't know, it's just coming out today. I made
lemonade out of my lemon, so we're lucky. That's all
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Okay, all right, anyway, that's what I think.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I will swollowed the something as well. I shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
To help, not today, No, anyway, just anonymous. I really
would have the conversation with him and apologize and say
you didn't mean to offend him. Quite to the contrary,
you are trying to do something sweet. But you know what,
if he continues to be an asshole and cold, then
you got a bigger problem on your hand.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Than those who hell Kathy today assholes? She said it.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I don't like men who are mean.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I don't like the mean people. And you know what,
if he cheaps the cold shoulder, you're the one that's
going to get upset and let him know you are listen.
If he's trying to do something nice and you're going
to treat me like this, over it, I apologize. I
thought I was doing something sweet. I wanted to make
you smile. Let's get past this, or let's know fat
(28:46):
he gives over. If he can't get past it, you
know what she should do. Here's your hat? What's your hurry? Audios?
Bye bye? All right? Give me the money for the
bill that I just paid.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Yeah, you want to be that You want to be
that ass you're saying, asshole, you want to be that guy?
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Pay me for the We don't hear things like that.
Usually that's really something that we don't hear often. Good
for you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're sweet. Anonymous Okay, another
(29:23):
anonymous nobody wants to give their names today. Hey, ladies,
I have a big dilemma. I need your help. How
do I make my best friend realize that her boyfriend
is a major all caps mooch. He hasn't paid for
anything for her and over a year, including gifts for
her birthday, et cetera. They've been together for a year
(29:46):
and three months. The math isn't mething. He always eats
her food, needs her to drive him places. Is just
so exhausting. I can tell I don't want to hurt
her feelings or make her unhappy, but there's no way
he's good for her. How do I have this conversation?
Can I just give us the cancers? She noticed?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Who asked you, Anonymous? If she's happy? What's it to you?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Kathy? I cannot believe those words came out of here. Man. Oh,
if it were me and you saw me doing this
for somebody, you'd be beating my ear until I got it.
Come on, they're friends, Tell that you're would you or
would you not? Now that I said it that way?
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Wait a minute? Has fair enough? I think fair enough?
Fair enough? However, I'm going out on a limb. I
don't think that Anonymous has not voiced her opinion already.
I don't think she's been sitting back quietly as I
would not for a year and a half. And after
(30:50):
they've been together for a year and three months, Anonymous
decides to write us because she just popped popped it
and can't control herself any longer. I think Anonymous has
probably spoken to her friend about this, and her friend
is continuing the pavior And that's why I jumped to
it and said, what's it to you? If she's happy?
And Susan, you know, haven't I not gotten to a
(31:12):
point where I said, well, find if that's what you want.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Susan not absolutely, but you're going to beat it that
horse until she hears you, though you would cheap saying it,
until I get it, and then I can make my
own no.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
No, no, no, until no, until you say to me
what you've done not about this.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
I hear you, and I don't care. I want to
do a b and say I'm like, okay, great, you
need to help me here, okay, because Anonymous didn't help me,
now I need to. I always will help you.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
He hasn't paid for anything for her an over year,
including gifts for her birthday. Who's paying for them?
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I think? No? I think what Anonymous means is she
didn't articulate her thoughts. Clearly, he just didn't get her one.
That would be my take.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Okay, is your girlfriend desperate that she wants a man
so bad that she's going to do I mean, I
used to be a big giver, like I'll let you
walk over from me, give you a give. But she
has needs something in return.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Well, maybe she does, maybe she doesn't. Maybe she's too young. Again,
we don't know their ages. We don't know, you know,
is this her first boyfriend?
Speaker 2 (32:20):
We don't know, have this conversation. She doesn't.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Well, she said that one time. You say it one time, Anonymous,
you say, let me let let's role play here, Susan,
you've been dating Jerry. No, you've been dating Dick. We're
going to keep with that name today. You've been dating
Dick for a year and three months and he's never
bought you a birthday present. He comes to your house,
(32:49):
he fills his face out of your refrigerator, He never
takes you for dinner. And when we you do car
for dinner, you pay for it. What do you see
in this guy?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
He must be really satisfied. I'm asking you, I'm asking you.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
We're role playing.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, that's what you guys could do it though I
couldn't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
So there's some reason why I's wrong with this picture. Yeah,
there's there's something we're not getting out of this story. Yeah, so,
I mean, but I don't do her best friend?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
You could, if you haven't already, just say that you
can't help, but notice and ask her does she notice?
How do you feel about it? And then whatever the
answer is, accept it, yep, and stay her best friend.
You'll pick up the pieces after. Yes, that's right, but
don't let her do anything major.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
And and and you know what, anonymous, you're you're probably right.
He's probably not good for her because ultimately, ultimately that
kind of behavior gets really old, really fast, and.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Obviously not fast enough if she still does, not fast enough.
But you know, she here again the girlfriend, not the
friend that's talking to us. But what kind of childhood
shod she have? What are you attracting? Like? All that
comes into play, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
We don't know, but being a.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Friend would bring her light to it.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Like, but she's not going to change her, No, she's not.
You're not going to change her. But anonymously, you know what,
You're lucky, she's lucky to have a great friend in you.
You're a good friend, and you know, just be there. Hopefully,
hopefully she'll come to her senses and you can pick
up the pieces and hopefully I know what's wrong with
(34:34):
men that do that? What do you?
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I don't know? You know, you know, sometimes they're really
good men. Once again, I'm going to give them a
benefit of the doubt. They don't even know any better.
They're spoiled, rotten, you know, they're just stupid and they
got to be taught. And sometimes it takes losing somebody, yeah,
to learn.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I don't I don't. I mean at my age or
our age. I don't want to teach her man the door.
I can't teach old dogs new tricks. I mean, yeah,
I have another funny thing, but I'm not going to
say it. Yes, Anonymous, let us know, let us know. Please,
you know, we've had several questions where we need more information.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And we've got a few responses.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Write so please, Anonymous, write us an update. That's where
I always tell you about a Bachelor nation dot com
slash Golden hour. That's where you will write us an update.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Please do it, or even have her write it. Really,
she realizes what the hell's going on? All right? We
got icky or picky? What a day? Okay, we're going
to do another round of icky or picky. Kathy. I'm
going to have you.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Start with the first one today, he says, my lady
un ironically, which means that's how he referred a lady milady.
I dated a guy who said mulady, and I went,
you're who like what? No, my name is Kathy, get it,
(36:08):
learn it, learn it now? Just I mean if he
gets you know what it is for men they date
so many women they call him all milady. You know,
I think it's I think it's I don't think it's icky.
I think it's picky, but yeah, it's pretty. He always
talks with his mouthful.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Icky beyond picky and ooh this is an oo no way.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Okay, he's a massive sore loser during board games. That's
ikey to me.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
So it can't be like you baby, grow a pair
really icky. Okay, he has really long fingernails. First I
would be vomiting, and then I first think the manicured
and very clean. No, it wouldn't be so icky.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
No, it would for me a man with really long
fingers mine long, like long like long long? Can you
spell it? L O N G?
Speaker 2 (37:15):
My rugged, dude, that's gonna hold my hand. I don't
want his nails longer than mine. Ikey, you know what.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I swear to God. We just took a tour guide,
a tour boat around the as he had it. What
I can't even talk. We just went around the world
for you to say it was Ikey, Really he's transitioning.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
What you got any other an open mind? You know,
be open? It didn't say what guy was he? It's
just as he has well is he r he? You
know what I mean? We don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
He's not gonna be my heat for long. And he's
got really long fingernails. I don't care if he's transitioning
or not.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Okay, he always wears ripped basketball shorts and a T
shirt that never matches.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Let me just tell you wait, wait, let me just say,
do you hear Susan? She wants to know exactly, Like,
if you're gardening, mowing the yard, it's okay, Susan the
fashion Queen, Yeah that's okay. But if you are you know,
if you're taking out for dinner, your toast, your you've
been kicked. Look at she's making a face. You're kicked
to the street. I mean, you are done. If you
sharpen that.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
If he but a basketball shorts kind of girl.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
He always wears basketball shorts, So that tells me it's
like you need an excuse.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
That want to help him? Yeah, that's icky, that's ticky.
All right?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Where are we? He over explains a joke every time
you don't laugh?
Speaker 2 (38:54):
It's pathetic.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
It's pathetic, but it's picky.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
But you know what, it is picky because I sit
through them and pre time make myself laugh and I
want to kill myself sometimes.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
No, but he's always explaining a joke, like, you know what.
I've known people who do that, and it's like I
got it.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I got it the first time. It just wasn't funny.
Please don't repeat it.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Really.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
He posts really sad lyrics but refuses to talk about
his feelings when asked.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Well, to me, that's that's a cry for help. That's
a cry for help. That's that might be a deal
break around the relationship. I mean, if he can't talk
about his feelings, that doesn't.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Postman don't really open up that easily. But if you're
going to post sad lyrics, that's cry for help.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
I think I think he needs prozac, all right, fist
or all the above. He refuses to try new foods.
Oh god, you know for me, that's an ick. I
gotta be.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I dated a guy I'll tell you.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
You know the guy I'm talking about it d'ing for
like ten months and the whole thing was icky. But
he ate the same thing for lunch every day and
the same thing for breakfast. It's like OCD. And I
would say to him, how about you.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Know, try this yeah, yeah croissant. No.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
But you know what when he refused that to me
was what do I want to say? It spoke more
about who he was a person. Yeah. In other words,
it had broader implications than just trying.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, he still uses Snapchat, so what Okay, I never
even knew what that was. My kids. If I want
to see anything, I got a look on Snapchat. What
I don't like is it disappears you post it for
a minute. I go back to show somebody my.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Grand stories on instagram Susan, They're there for twenty four
hours and then they're gone. Learn your social media.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Well, my kids know now. If you're going to do
that shit, take a copy and send me my own.
If it's about my grandchildren, I want the picture. Don't
make me look on Snapchat. It's a whole nother thing.
I got it.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
I can. I just tell you, I don't know anyone
who uses Snapchat except your children. I really don't.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
There's one hundred million people that use.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Oh I'm sure there are. I just don't know that
many people.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
All the young ones in Bachelor World they do. Oh yeah,
because I remember taking pose in with the four pick
I thought they used TikTok Bachelor Nation. No, because Snapchat
they do. They could share it, but only for a minute,
or you can save it to a story like and
I go, oh, you're using Snapchat? Something about the camera?
(41:33):
You got to ask the young one. But a lot
of them do still use it?
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (41:38):
All right, all right.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
He asks you to do everything because you do it better.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
He's a lazy boy cop belt. Yeah, I do do
it better, but I'm not doing it. That's right.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
That is icky.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, that's that's lazy. He takes forever to respond to
text messages but responds to you a sap on Instagram.
Problem why I know my next question exactly? Why?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
No?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Why live on Instagram?
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
How could you not see a text? Man?
Speaker 3 (42:13):
Maybe he's an influencer, miss misgiving them benefit of the doubt.
Maybe he's an influence.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
So what you'd still get a text. He'll respond to
you on Instagram, but he won't respond because he's probably
on Instagram. Maybe that's your phone. The phone is still
in your hand, could be an ipadic comm anything. Maybe
he's got his message of silence.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
How does it feel taking the trip around the world
to answer a simple question? You enjoying it? How's it
working for you?
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Look, don't make me wait for a response for my
text message, because that's the only way I talk to people.
I don't really answer the phone much.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
No, No, let me just tell you, Susan, especially if
she's dating someone, the guy that the dots are still
blinking is he's texting. She's already writing back. She's already
writing back. You don't have to wait long for Susan.
Am I right?
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (43:05):
But if I'm in a situation where I can't respond,
here's the bad part. I want to and then I forget,
and then I'm accused of just ignoring, like, oh my god,
oh my god, I'm so sorry. It was two days
ago I never responded to So.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
So do you check your text message? There's so many yes,
text messages, not Instagram messages. I get a lot of texts.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
All day every day from home. Tell me, oh my god,
So I'm on a couple groups from the new show
that's coming. Yeah, and you're on a family chap and
then my family and then my girlfriends. How many times
do we text to day?
Speaker 3 (43:47):
Ka? Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I got Nancy, I got my cousin, I got Lottie,
I got girlfriends, guy friends. Can I tell you today?
I must have had six hundred because it was my birthday? Unbelievable.
Do you got to.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
Respond when you text your family? Your children? Do they
respond right away?
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yes? Except for Nick.
Speaker 3 (44:10):
My kids. My kids don't, but you know what.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Right away?
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
And if Chris he'll do it for work. And if
you don't respond to Chris right away, yo, ma yo
yo ma. Did you even read it? Like?
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, I have so. I don't know if you have this,
but I have emergency phones with my two of my
kids that live here, so if I call them, even
if they're like in a meeting, it'll ring, even if
their phone is silenced. That's what emergency contact is. And
so they both looked at me and said, don't abuse it.
I just be itching sometimes I've never done it. Actually,
(44:50):
you know what's no wait, let me tell you why
this happened. Less I sound ridiculous because I broke my
leg a couple of years ago. Answer I the one
answered I called. I had to call nine one one
because I could not get up. It was awful. My
leg was turned funny. I couldn't get up off the floor.
I had to call nine one one, which was very
traumatic for me because I don't like ami hearing sirens,
(45:13):
and so my kids after that, they they called. Actually, no,
that was when I broke my wrist. I take it
back and own my leg, my wrist and I couldn't
drive because my hand was turned very I definitely yes,
and so it was bad. But they felt so badly
that now they put me on this emergency thing. So
(45:34):
you know, they'll answer that if it.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Is it time that we have to wear the thing
around our neck life alert.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
Oh god, oh no, no no no.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
If I go down, go down and stay down, I fallen?
What is that happen? And I couldn't get up or
something like my cell phone's not here.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
I'll tell you It's why I tell Nancy all the time,
my dear friend Nancy.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
I don't think Nancy pays attention to her phone too
much because when we call, she goes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
She's so sweet about it.
Speaker 2 (46:05):
She did in here or she didn't say it like you.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Good to her though she's not married to her phone.
She's not married to her. I don't know this was
this was a barrel of laugh.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
And so let's talk about your hair for a second
before we go. Okay, So, Kathy, Yeah, spring is in
the air, and I think you're thinking of a new look.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
I just I just feel like my hair. I feel
like I look like the Dutch boy pink. Can you
know my hair is straight and it's brown. All I
need is bangs to finish off the look.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
I send a curtain bang would change it up a
little bit, gets a movement in it. I don't ye
you're thinking about changing the color.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
I just like my hair is so dark. This is
just slightly darker than my original color, than my natural color. Yeah,
and so I just thought, you know, I don't I
never want to be a blonde. I've never wanted to
be a blonde. But I'm just thinking like a light
or might might not make me look because I have
(47:04):
I'm skipped so pale. I feel like it's such a stark.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
That's what he's striking about. Dark hair and pale skin.
They say blondes having more fun. I'd like you to
try and let me know.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Well, what about half blondes? Does that mean I have
half as much fun? No, seriously, I would love it.
People write in should I lighten my hair? Not not
helmet blonde, like not platinum blonde, but just like chunks
of blonde, so I could I could look like.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Much lighter, much much lighter, with some highlights.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Highlights, And then what do you think should I do it?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
What do you Susan? What do you think? I want
to know what people think I really do.
Speaker 3 (47:42):
But you're a hairdresser, you don't.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I know what I think, but it takes what I'm
trying to explain to Kathy. It doesn't happen overnight. So
you're going to go through phases that you're not going
to like. And I know you, patience is not one
of the things that either one of us are good at.
And you're gonna go, oh my god, oh my god, no,
I don't like this and destroy and bring it right back.
(48:06):
But you have to get through.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
Me and I have to move. Wait, does this mean
I get to move to Philly? My husband loved blonde.
I was the first. I mean, if he were sitting
here right now, he would tell me to go blonde.
I promise he would. Men love blonde.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
We'll try it.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Well, well, my husband's not here anymore, so we're not.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Doing it for him, doing it for you? All right?
Speaker 3 (48:29):
This was so much.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
I don't do it in one condition. What you don't
give up midway? You gotta give me three months? Oh
I would be married in three months. Well for you,
you get to touch up every three weeks, so three, six, nine, twelve, yeah,
three months.
Speaker 3 (48:51):
I can't afford it. I can't afford it, all right?
This we well, seriously, people, if you have an opinion.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
Talk about it. Well, stay timber. We want to know
what you guys think.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
So please, if.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I'm going to do all this work, I want your
input before I do it. And she starts reading, don't
do it, cat, don't do it, cat, She's gonna go No.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
Wait. Also, you may send donations to pay Susan to
do all this to bachelornation dot com because I can't
afford it, all right, all right, let's go here, time
to go.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I guess that's it for today.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
What do you think of Well? I hope people are
still going to fall on Bachelor Happy Hour, So make
sure you follow us because we do have all those
new episodes coming out every week. And if you're a
new listener, please weigh in on my hair and keep
us and welcome, welcome, aboard and submit some questions to us.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Everybody, keep them coming because you can go to bachelornation
dot com, slash Golden Hour, or just dm us on
Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour. We're here to listen. We're
here to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
And we love hearing from you.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Guys here disagree and agree and agree, and we want
you and we.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Want to figure out my hair. But until we figure
out my hair, listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour
on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Until next time. You have a great day.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
And if she looks good blonde, I might consider it now.
Thanks for joining us,
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