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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us. As always, we are so excited to be here.
How are you doing today, Susan.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I've had a day.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's a good day. Yeah, good day.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Do you know what they say when they deal lemons?
Speaker 3 (00:21):
What do you do you make lemonade?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Exactly what we put back in it? Or just hey
you guys.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Thanks for listening and we're having so much fun talking
to you guys, answering, giving advice, and we love when
we get the feedback after we've read your questions. We
love chatting with all of our Bachelor Nation fans, so
be sure to check out our latest episodes.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Please do.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Okay, So today we have a very special guest from
Clayton season of The Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Jill is here. Hi, Jill, how are you today?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Hi? I'm good. It's so funny hearing you guys say
from Clayton season because it seems like it's so lifetime.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I know, my god, it is, it is let time ago.
But you know you're absolutely stunningly beautiful. I have to
ask you, and when I was reading about you, you
were from Situate, Rhode Island.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Yes, Situated Island.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I am from outside of Boston, Massachusetts, and there's a Situate,
Massachusetts area. And so when I read that, I thought,
is that a misprint? Like where is Situate Rhode Island?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Stitut?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Rhode Island is like twenty minutes outside of province to
the west. It's like closer to like Connecticut. It's like
the sticks.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
And which are you now?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I'm in Newport, So Newport, Rhode Island's.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So I've been there.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Whooh it's nice.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's beautiful ever sincean we were talking about it where
the Vanderbilt mansions are and oh, yeah, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
There are you on the water? Are you on the water? Jill, girl?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I can't afford to be on the water.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
It's like living in California in the water, right, I
could walk through it, but it's not.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
So what do you do in Newport?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I'm an architectural historian.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, I saw that in your bio. Tell me what
that means.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
So basically, I study old houses. I work for the
I work for the munis Book government, and I deal
with all of the future planning for all historic houses
in the historic district. And I make sure.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, yeah, and Newport. That's that's a more than a
full time job.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Love dream job.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
See that's what you want you.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
So, Jill, we're going to get to know you a
lot better today, and we want everybody.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Else to know you as well.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Okay, so we're going to kick things off with the
question of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Okay, do you want to read it?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I do? But wait, can I just ask Jill one
more question?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I have a bone to pick with you, Joe, and
I just met you and you're absolutely gorgeous.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Thank you, Yes, gorgeous your bones.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, here it comes. Remember I'm from outside of Boston.
We say what we think.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Oh okay, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Okay, here comes.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Why wasn't I listed on your favorite Best Impressions First
Impressions from Golden Bachelor. I didn't get hair, I didn't
get dressed, I didn't get makeup, I didn't get accessories.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I want to see this list.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Oh you can guess who got it?
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Uh uh Well best hair is Edith.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Uh Edith got best dressed, April got best accessories.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Can't argue with that. I can't remember who the other
ones were.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
But I was like, okay, well it's so my friends
when we when we were watching The Golden Bachelor, we
had a league and so we all had our own people.
So I was like very focused on my people.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Okay, so that's why, Okay, Susan, we were not her people.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
We were mentioned. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
If it was if it was personality, you guys would
have taken it easily. But that was like one night
one I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It was on anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I was just just I went through it on the
on the Bachelor Nation website and I was like, wait
a minute, she didn't mention Susan orby well.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Oh my god. I was probably block out.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
All right, all right, let's get to a question today.
It was just my that was my torment.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
All right.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
So what is something you wish you knew about men
and dating when you were younger?
Speaker 5 (04:28):
She's still young, but okay, yeah, what I wish I knew?
I wish I knew that they're deeply disturbed and that
none of them have had therapy and none of them
know what they're doing, and they like, they're all just
going to disappoint you, honestly.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Like I even read the book Women Are from Venus,
Men Are from Mars, and I still don't.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Get it how they think, Oh I can't figure it out.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
No, I can't figure it out, and it's just like I'm.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Exhausted, and then you give up trying, right, I know that.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
That's what kind of where I'm at now. I'm just like,
you know.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
What, It'll happen again and again.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
No, no, no, no, no, don't say.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
That we didn't get married out of high school and
move around the world with our husband.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, it's possible to find someone that you love and
loves you.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
No, totally, it is.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Of course it is.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
I mean, it definitely is. But like, I'm at a
point in my life where like I can do it myself,
Like I can do everything myself. So I'm like happy there.
I'm at a point where like I'm not going to settle,
you know, like obviously I'd love to get married and
have kids and live and live happily ever after, but
not at any cost.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Do you feel like being so self sufficient that that
intimidates men?
Speaker 5 (05:44):
I feel like, oh god, I don't. I hope not.
I feel like that's just the kind of caliber of
women in these days, right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Like, well, the women that you surround yourself, But so
so this is a good segue. I don't know how
comfortable and whatever you're you know you don't want to
talk about. But I did read about your breakup with
Ellice and Rachel.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
What do you want you?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
We love Rachel, she's lovely. Oh my gost How are
you doing since the breakup? And you know, anything you
want to share with us? Because you know we can
put a contract out on for you.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
We could fix this we soon.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I was.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
So talk to us only what you know, tell us
how whatever you feel like you.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Want to show. Okay, So yeah, I knew you guys
want ask this question.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
We have to. We have to.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I So I think it's not like nothing crazy happened,
nothing like juicy or salacious. It's just like there comes
to a point in a relationship. We were together for
two years, and you know, it was definitely a turning point.
Either we were going to make it work or we weren't.
And so you know, as hard as you try, there's
sometimes where it just doesn't work out. And so that
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was a decision that was made and.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
For both of you, was it mutually. I mean.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
That's tough to say. I thought we had a little
more time, but I you know, the writing was on
the wall. Yeah, so yeah, I mean it was definitely
really difficult. We lived together. So he moved out.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, I know, he.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Moved out pretty swiftly. But it's fine, Like this was
my apartment before anyways, so it's just like business as usual.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Does he live in Newport?
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Well Newport is not a huge place. Do you bump
into him? Girl, I don't go out, you don't go out?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
No?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Wait, how old are you? How old do you again?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
I'm twenty nine. I'm about to be thirty this.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Summer, so that the night thing is over.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
No, I've never been like a partier drinker really like
I like to go out with my friends like every
now and then. But I am best suited with my
kindle and you know and my you know baking.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
So do you have any rats on it? Like do
you wish you'd done things differently? I mean, we all
have regrets.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
But no, I actually feel like, yeah, I feel really
proud of.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
The way len O, my god, tell me a lesson you.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Okay, oh my god. I well, I got to know
myself and who I am in a relationship so much
more like now I feel like for my next relationship,
I know what I'm looking for. I know who I am.
I mean, girl, I've been in therapy since I was
like thirteen, so I can like hand somebody a roadmap
to my mind. And you know that's pretty good. I
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feel like conflict resolution and just dealing with conflict. I
remember when I was twenty three, I was just like
like just so unbelievably like inconsolable. But now I handle
conflict much better.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's why.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
So wait, I have a question because Susan believe if
I remember when I read correct, you went to a
psychic after your breakup?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Oh my godness, I did.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Okay, so Susan goes to psychic so one, no, you
both go to psychics, meaning each of you. So I
want to hear what did you what? What gems? What
what came out of that? Because I've never done it,
and I'm not sure I ever could, as.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yours a medium as well.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Mine wasn't a medium. I have seen psychic mediums before,
but I also have an astrologer. I love.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I want to hear what tell me? What? What? What
did they say?
Speaker 5 (09:30):
So she said she was like, okay, now it's not
your time for love and I'm like, don't care.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
I'm like, shut up, I don't want.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
To hear that. I know.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
She's like, give us six months, and I'm like, yeah, obviously,
I'm gonna give it six months. And then she also
said that she said eventually I was going to write something,
and I was like that she said, I'm justin for greatness. Obviously,
you know, we all knew that. But she also said
that I have, like, uh, I've psychic abilities, which.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
May make and let's get to the heart of it,
Winter Susan and I going to meet mister Wright.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Oh my god, right, no, hmmm, no. I honestly like,
but it's so crazy because I did have a paranormal
experience before I went on the Bachelor. Oh yeah, So
before I went on the Bachelor, I was like at
my friend's house saying my final goodbyes to them, and
then I went outside and I heard like something running
towards me. I saw like a big, dark figure and
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I'm like hi, I screamed. I run back inside. We
checked the ring camera and that was the only file
that was corrupted, Like all the other files were good.
That was the only file that was corupted. I'm like,
oh my God. So then I go home and I
tell my dad, and my dad was like, oh, yeah,
like you're you know, my family is from is Chinese,
so he's like, oh yeah, like your great grandmother like
had these abilities as well, Like you know, he gave
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like a Chinese name for it, which is called like
cati or something, and like you're able to kind of
see through the veil. And I'm like, oh, okay, but.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Were you frightened by it or did it touch you
in a certain way?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Well?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
I were comfortable, Well I could know I could feel
like it felt sinister, like I felt it wasn't like
a happy presence. But yeah, like I I believe in
all that stuff. My family's very like we're not superstitious,
like we you.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Know, embrace it.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
We embrace it.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
I want to know if you have any advice for
people going through a breakup.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yes, oh my god, oh god. Well it's like, yeah,
so I'm in the thick of it. Well I'm not
really in the thick of it right now, but I think,
you know, obviously having friends there. Literally the second I
told Rachel, she said she booked a flight like immediately,
So that was like so nice to help.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
People telling them to lean on a friend, basically.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Lean on a friend for sure. Don't be too hard
on yourself. I am always I hold myself to such
a high standard that fail you. I am just like
even I always have this mentality of like, Okay, well
I've just got to pick myself up, got to pick
myself up. But it's like I don't allow myself the
time to grieve or to feel, you know, feel my feelings.
(12:16):
So definitely, all allow yourself time to grieve and then
don't also don't lose like hope in yourself or don't
take it necessarily personally because there is hopefully going to
be someone out there that's going to love you unconditionally. Yeah,
and for you. So yeah, it's just like, you know,
you've got to move forward, but also kind of like respect.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
The past and it's okay to be down for a while.
Totally okay in the morning.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Yes, I think sometimes people just rush there.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
What you said, Jill, Like, sometimes people just say, okay,
just pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and get back
out there.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
And you need the time.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I think you're smart to realize that you need the
time to kind of just let yourself be and feel
and mourn and all the emotions that you have, because
that's the only way you can. Then you know, you
have to walk through grief, whatever that grief is, to
get to the other side.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I have a good question, actually, what you've been on
Paradise obviously as well as Bachelor?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yes, what's the difference?
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Oh god?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, like how did you feel different now on each?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Okay, So on the Bachelor obviously, like when you first
go on, it's like so nerve wracking you. It's your
first time on TV. You're like a deer in the headlight.
So on Bachelor, the difference is it's not your love story.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
You're one of many.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
Yeah, you're one of many. But on Paradise it's like
you can choose your own adventure. So the focus is
more on you in your decisions, which is a little scary.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
And I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Can you explain that.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I don't understand when you say it's your what do
you mean? Give me an example what you mean by that?
You're you're she's choosing who she wants a date, right.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Is right, But they have to choose you as well, right.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, But it's like you have so much more freedom
to do whatever you want, you know, like the beaches
is open, you can just do whatever you want. You
can talk to whoever you want. It's not like, well,
you know, maybe i'll get time tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's like three minutes.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Yeah, right, like I'll definitely get time. And you're with
these people. You live with these people, so it's a
totally different experience and you get to know I mean
they keep you a little bit separate, but like not
really like the the genders. So yeah, it's it's totally different.
And the spotlight is definitely more on the individual versus
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like the lead. There's no lead, right.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I want to know when you're in Paradise, did you
ever because Susan I've talked about this.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It seems so different to us.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
I mean we've never been, but the watching it, watching.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
The Golden Paradise guy do hope they do, But we
wouldn't do what you guys know, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I mean I'm not I'm not going to the boom
boom room jail. Trust me and believe I'm nobody.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I feel like the boom boom room has cobwebs in it.
Nobody's been in the boo boom room for years, Like
we gotta we gotta ramp that up. But not meat.
Not talking about meat.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Oh wait about that means you would never go back
to Paradise.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Would you?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Oh god, I mean it's always on the tape.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Who knows?
Speaker 5 (15:27):
I mean, I mean, yes, who knows. But there would
have to be men there that I could actually date, Like,
and let's be serious for a second, guys, like.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
It's desolate, like and do you know who the men
are going to be?
Speaker 5 (15:41):
No, you don't know anything, but you're right, so you're
trusting that there are going to be people that you
can date. Obviously, like I could talk the wallpaper off
the walls. But like if if you don't have like
a job or you know, a plane. Yeah, and I'm
not going to really be interested.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
You know, if you don't have you're go ahead. You're
looking for.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I'm just looking for something different, you know, like the
there's gonna be people, there's gonna be fresh meat. There's
fresh meat down there. They're all you know, they got
to get their Yeah, yeahs out. That's totally good. But
I if I were to go down, I'd be looking,
you know, I'd get engaged.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I don't care. Like if it works, it works, you can't.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, Like I would definitely be. I remember the last
time I went to Paradise, I was like, I'm ready
could be exngaged girl. I was not ready to be
engaged like now after going through like a serious relationship
and like knowing what it takes and being like that
close now I know, and so yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Be like, so why not get engaged after a week?
Sounds good to.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Me, right, I mean, crazier things have happened.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
We're married after three weeks, right.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
I mean, yeah, I would. I it's definitely not off
the table, but it would have to be you know,
it has to be serious, right, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah, but you don't have to do anything on that show,
right you just do you feel like people will be
with each other just to stay or are they really
into each other because then somebody new comes in with
a date card and they take them and then the
girls crying or you know.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
So there's definitely like a level of gameplay to it,
which is normal. There's friendship roses, there's you know, I
want to stay the next week to see if my
the person I really want to see comes down, And
that's all valid, that's all good. But yeah, I mean
it gets messy, it gets so messy. It's just so fun.
I love a mess I love.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Him a second. I think, Jill, can we have your
phone number?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
We're gonna call see if we'd get Jill on paradise
because another one.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
I mean, oh my god, yeah, I mean, well, girl,
who knows, who knows? We'll see, We'll see.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
That's very cool.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Okay, So, uh, what are you like married to Newport?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
To Newport?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
I mean you can leaving and doing something different because
you know you you you do a lot of bake?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Do bake a lot too?
Speaker 5 (18:08):
I do?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I beg sour though, and yeah, you bake? Like what's
next for you? If? Are you tell me what's next
on the agenda for you?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
That's such So it's so funny because I was just
talking to someone the other day about making a change,
and I feel like, you know, I've lived I've lived
in Rhode Island my whole life. The only time I
lived away was when I studied abroad, like I went
to college in Newport. You know, my whole life has
been centered in Rhode Island, which obviously I love.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
It's not a bad thing.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
It's not a bad thing. Newport's like the best place
to be for architecture, but I think that, you know,
I am looking to step outside of my comfort zone
wherever that takes me. And now it's like, you know,
I thought I was going to live here forever, you know,
I thought I had the person and I was going
to live here forever with And now that I don't,
it's like, oh my god, I could do anything.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
So and that's a liberating feeling.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
It it's definitely liberating, but it's also scary, like I
don't know what to do with it, right. I feel like,
and I said, I felt like a jellyfish, Like I'm
just kind of like floating around waiting for something to
like pull me in a certain direction. And I'm open
to all directions, right Like, I'm in my career, pretty
like established in my career, so you know, it'd have
to be a good career opportunity.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
But yeah, love, would love take you somewhere else.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Yeah, absolutely, if it's for the right person, then yes, definitely.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I think you sound like a woman who at twenty nine,
almost thirty, has your ducks in a row and your
heart open and you're ready to adventures. And because I
think that of you, are you ready to join in
and give some advice. We read questions, yes, and we
want I'm going to read one question and see what
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your advice all going to get some opinions.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yes, I love giving opinions and I never take anybody's
advice perfect.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Oh I know something I guess is billion people, what
do you think? What do you think? Then she does,
but I'd like to hear their thoughts. But You're still
going to do what you're gonna do.
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I I want to hear I always say, you know,
sometimes you've got to touch the stove even though you
know it's hot, Like I know this is getting badly,
but I'm just gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And related as long as you as long as you
know you're going to have your your the consequences and
you know, then good for you.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
It's a risk, it's a risk.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's sometimes a good centers are bad, but you take
right here we go. Anonymous asks, Hi, ladies and Jill,
I could really use your help.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I feel like I've been in a sort of winter slump.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I haven't felt confident in myself in what seat feels
like forever. I've tried the things that usually work for me,
getting my hair done, buy new clothes, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
And nothing's working.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
My mental health is managed, so I know there's nothing
new going on there. I just feel so blah and
it's gotten to the point where I don't really feel
like going out and hanging with my friends because I
feel so self conscious and that's really not like me.
What do you suggest I do to get out of
this funk? Thank you so much. I really love your podcast. Well,
thank you Anonymous. What says you, Jill? How did she
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get out of this funk? Oh?
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Girl? I feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Okay, winter number winter right, I would.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Come into spring.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Were coming, I would say seek sunshine, right, like, maybe
take a vaka if you need to like escape for
a weekend, escape for a weekend. I would also try
something new that you kind of know you're going to
be good at already.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You know what would that be, I don't.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Know, like a new hobby or something, just to kind
of get your confidence up and get like excitement back, right.
Like That's how kind of I fell into baking. Was
I was just like, oh, like, let me try a
new hobby. And then I was like kind of good
at it, but I kind of knew I was going
to be good at it, so you know, give yourself
an easy win.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And then I just have to interrupt one second? What
do you do with all your We're going to get
back to anonymous question. What do you do with all
the bake woods you make? And do you.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, you're not even your thin as a rail? What
do you do with all this? I?
Speaker 5 (22:14):
Okay, so I keep half of a loaf, half of
a mini loaf for myself and then I give it
all away.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Do you get her address?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Right?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
No, I don't know if it'll keep that long, But like,
I'm pretty sure my coworkers are like enough.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
So I want to know when the woman talks, she
did her hairs, her mental healthless manage, but she feels
so self conscious. What do you think she meant by that?
Speaker 5 (22:40):
I mean everyone hates being perceived. I feel you know.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Some people conscious of what?
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Yes, so if you're mental.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Herself, she probably just feels like you know this, She
probably feels like, oh I don't think my hair looks great.
Oh this she feel I know. But when you feel
self conscious, it's like I did my hair and I
still don't feel good. I bought new clothes and that
It just doesn't feel right. That's that's what I think.
Maybe that's what I think she means.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Just well, yeah, I think like confident. It's all about
like the mindset, you know, Like I went on the
Bachelor thinking I was like the next greatest thing, and
then when I walked in, I was like, oh, I
know what I looked like the best I've ever looked.
And so I think you just have to like the
confidence really comes from with it.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Fake it till you make it.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
You took your words, you make out of my mess.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Always I say to my kids all the time when
they're nervous, I said, what you don't think anyone else
is nervous walking into that whatever it is, fake it
till you make it.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
But also like, don't compare yourself to anybody else, Like
you're only comparing Like everyone is so different. I feel
like when I walk into a room, I'm not comparing
myself to anybody. I just you know, you have to
have really a solid ground of like who you are.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Every one of us are unique. Yeah, and the own ways, I.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Think, don't you think, Susan, We've talked about this, Jill
is as we've gotten older, when you're younger, I think
people tend to morph or try to be pleasing to
other people, whether it's men or women or whatever whatever
the scenario is. But when you get to be our
range I am, you don't care as much. You're just like,
(24:19):
this is who I am. I always say to people,
I'm not everyone's cup of tea. You know, I have opinions.
I'm strong willed. But when you're talking about dating the
man that meets me and it's not afraid of my independence,
of my straight personality and my personality that'll be the
right guy for me, I don't worry so much anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
And it doesn't. And it sounds like you've learned that
lesson too.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Yeah. No, I have a very strong sense of who
I am and at my core, like I know, I'm
a good person, Like I'm not mean and I'm not
condictive like so yeah, I mean obviously, Oh my god,
especially on Paradise. So I walk up on the beach
and everyone is like, gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Right, you wanted to be gamming? Ono? Did you come later?
Speaker 5 (25:02):
No? I was for sands, So I was like, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
How long did you stay? How long did you stay? Joe?
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I see it until the week of split Week because
I was I was loyal to my man.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
We don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Okay, so they they you know, they took the girls
away from the from.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
The guys at the beach, and they've stamped.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Us somewhere else. Yeah. I had an absolute meltdown. Is horrible.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
And oh my god, you were in season eight, right, yeah?
I think so, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Wait, that's the one I watched.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
It was it was biblical like. The meltdown that I
had was Oh my god. I felt so bad. So
but I was loyal to a fault and my man
the second I left here, I lived or died. He
really did not care. And there were gorgeous men at
the place that we were, and I ignored them.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Because you were being so true blue.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
But wait a minute, the guy, why did you leave?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
They make them?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Oh well no, no what what everybody pack? No? No, no, yeah,
I left on my own terms. Like I went down
there and I was like, I stayed loyalty. Okay, what happened?
And then he told me, he said, and this will
always stick with me, but it's like funny now, but
it's so true. He said, you have a unique personality
that I love and enjoy. I just don't think it's
(26:26):
personally right for me.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Oh and I was like, oh and you're telling me
this now.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
When there was these men, I could have gotten to them.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
And the men were the men there.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So you have regrets?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Wait were they good men or not good men?
Speaker 5 (26:41):
They were there? Was there were definitely a few men
that I mean, there's a few in particular that I'm like,
I kick myself every day, like I'm.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Like, if I try to reach out to them after
the show or not.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Going to do that.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's the way of the world. Jones. Bachelors that were
on per season. I haven't had a chance.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
I haven't had the chance because like then, you know,
like a relationship. I was in a relationship. So you know,
if if if I happened to be on the beach
and one of them is there, and then yes, I
will absolutely explore that.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
But listen, if I ever get to go to Paradise
and you're there, I want the names of the guys.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
I'll make sure I'll work it out for you. Jill.
I'm a I'm a matchmaker. I will make this happen.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Yes, I please, please, please, because oh my god, yeah,
I was I was horrible to them too.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Oh my god, what would you want to see there?
Speaker 5 (27:31):
Who would you can say? I'm not telling you no.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well, I put it out to the universe. It could happen.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Girl, I've put it out to the universe. I've manifested,
I've planned our life schedule.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Jo Let me just say, let's pretend I'm making up
a name. Let's pretend there's some guy John that you
saw on Bachelor and you really liked him, right, But
he's a little you know, he got burned, he didn't
get the girl. You know, he's a little bit insecure.
Now he hears on this podcast which we're going to
send to him that hey, do you know that Jill
would like to meet you? You're steps ahead of the game.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Girl.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
You got to who do you want to see there?
That was my sales pitch. Who do you want to say?
Speaker 5 (28:07):
No? Because I know that because Okay, the people that
I'm going, the people that I would be interested in,
are not interested in going to paradise.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Do you know what happens happening?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
But to anonymous backus.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I think I love Jill's advice to do something new,
get do something out of the ordinary, take a weekend trip.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Do something like you said, spring is almost tear. I
mean it will.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
I'm old girl. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I was just gonna say, Jill, sometimes yourself you got.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
To love yourself.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
But sometimes we all have I know it sounds like
a Hallmark card. We all have some valleys, and we
all have some peaks in life, and this may just
be a valley.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
And you know what, I heard something that was so
good and it was enjoy the boring. Because when something
terrible happens or like a tragedy in your life, you
are yearning for those times when life is boring. Like
enjoy the boring. Enjoy the time when nothing bad is happening,
because life is gonna throw stuff at you no matter what.
(29:13):
You just got to.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Enjoy quiet moments, embrace them, enjoy it. My favorite saying
was enjoy who you are.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Oh that's a good.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, I love it all right, Jill.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Okay, next here we go. We want to know all
about you, but we found out a little here and
we have a little game.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Oh gosh.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Okay, so before we wrap today's episode, these are fun,
easy questions and this is so Bachelor Nation can know
you even more than they think they do. Okay, how
do you unwind after a long day?
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I read my book, I read my kindle. I'm go
adic it to my books.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Okay, that's what I love to read too.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
What's a piece of advice that you've always kept with you?
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Oh my god, Oh, don't leave with the feeling you're
gonna be missed. Say it again, don't leave with the
feeling you're going to be missed.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Wow, that's that's so dark.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
It's really dark. But that was what my grandfather always
used to say.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
And we're like, we're gonna a feeling that you're gonna
be missed.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I always leave with the feeling that they're gonna miss me.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
No, I don't.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Well, I know they are, but it's like, you know,
you've got to have some humility for sure. And then
also I take it it's kind of like give it
your all. And also it's like we're not as important
as we think we are. That all right? Yeah, so yeah,
just don't leave.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
With the pH.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Wow. Okay, what would the title of your autobiography be?
Speaker 5 (30:51):
Oh, dear, like the saddest handwritten book ever? The what
the saddest what hand written book? That's what I call
my My journal is the saddest handwritten book.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Is it all sad stuff?
Speaker 5 (31:07):
You?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Right?
Speaker 5 (31:08):
Of course? I only write when I'm sad.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Right, isn't it the truth?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Now? I'm rite when I'm happy. No, in my journal, No,
it's therapy. It's the way I get it out and
release it.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Like on the on the show on the Bachelor, I
was really good at journaling on Paradise. No, I didn't
journal at all.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
You didn't have time. Probably I didn't have any time.
Speaker 5 (31:30):
I was exhausted.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
What was your favorite meal growing up?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
Oh? My favorite meal growing up anything with potatoes in it.
I love, like a shepherd's pie.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Oh I haven't a shepherd's pie.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Do you cook or do you just bake? Are you
a cook as well?
Speaker 5 (31:44):
No? I'm actually okay. I have like a couple of
signature dishes. Right, but if every night, like I just
I pick, you know, I don't really have I don't.
I'm not that great of a cook. But I love
to bake. But cooking is like I just.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Can't tell's the baker?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I love to bake.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
What's something you've always wanted to do but you haven't
done yet?
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Oh? My god?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Find a good guy.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
Yeah, well that too. My bucket list is very long,
but I think, like very high up on my list,
I want to go to Australia and I want to
put a wombat.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
I read that on your thing. You still want to
do that?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Oh my god, I'm dying to go to Australia and
put a wombat. That's like my life school.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
She wants to pad a wombat and she loved Twilight.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
I don't know we have and I know also I
want to see the Aurora borealis really bad.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Are you going to do it?
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Yeah? But you know I got to go. I gotta
go way up north.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
You know, like to Greenland, right.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Yeah, I gotta go to Greenland. Yeah, or like Iceland
or something.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I got to go with my daughter. She wants to
do this.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yeah, I really want to do that.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
And if you were stranded on a deserted island and
you could only bring three girls from your worst season,
who would you bring?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Obviously Rachel Rekia of course that one without saying. Kate Gallivan.
She she worked for the selling Sunset group. She was
on Paradise as well. She is one of the funniest
people I've ever met. You guys, would you, guys?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Would was she blonde? What color hair did she?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:20):
She was blonde, and she actually stole my man for
a second. But I love her anyways, love her anyways.
And then probably Genevieve.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Oh, Genevieve. The Genevieve is really pretty. Well, they're all pretty,
but she's pretty with long dark hair, right.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Long dark hair. Massachusetts too.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh where's she from?
Speaker 1 (33:39):
She's from Rehobeth, ra Hope and holy smokes, wow, amazing.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Do you have any questions for us or advice for us?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Well? No, yeah, of course I have questions for you guys. Okay,
so what if you were me, what would you do
right now with your life?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I would start planning that trip to Australia.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Okay, if it were me, Yeah I was, I would.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
I'd be looking for a new job in a new
city and a completely new start.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Okay. Wow, I know, it's like I hope, it's hoping
you and so it's a lot of work, but you.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Know, but you can do it.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
You're strong, you're smart, You've got a lot of memories
in Newport, and the first thing I'd do is getting
the hell out of that apartment too.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I mean, you need to change.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
You need to know and if it's just changing, if
you're staying there even and getting a new place.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Newport, Susan is a tiny little place. I mean, I
get it. Rhode Island's beautiful. I've been to Newport. My
mother was from Providence. I believe me. I know Rhode Island.
But but you've done it. You've done it. You know,
got your single Go go work and play in a
whole new place.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
Stop planning it, baby, Okay, do it. You're the only
one that's going to make this happen.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I know, I know, and you know I don't think.
I think you know not to wait. You know, I
can't surround You need.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
For somebody to go with you. And you don't want
to go by yourself. Kathy, and I like to travel.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, and I want to go to Australia. I'm not
going to pad on that. But I'll get a stuff.
What's I'll get a stuff, Kuala bear though.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
But then you'll just you'll jump out of a plane.
But you're not gonna put a mammal.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I'll pet it.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I mean, all right, I'll pat it. You make a
good point, all right, Well, this has been so much fun,
but fun.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I like it to know. We got to see her
on the side.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Yea, I love and I have a medium that I
used to see her mother for forty years. She passed
and her daughter took over. She works with the police,
she works, she's amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
All right, well you often text me that too.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Yes, all right, I think that does it for this
episode of Happy Hours Golden Hour, And thanks Jill. We
really love talking to you and we love your input
on things. And I want to taste your bread.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
What can I say?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yes, I want the bread, I want the desserts. We
loved getting to chat with you. I love talking to
a fellow New England. Or even if you didn't put
me on your best of the best from that this,
you know, I'll forgive you because you're beautiful, smart and
lovely so and you've got a great life out of it.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
You don't forget that. Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Thank you all for joining us and follow us on
Bachelor Happy Hour because we have new episodes with new
guests and new fan questions coming out every week.
Speaker 4 (36:17):
And make sure that you're submitting your questions to us,
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Speaker 1 (36:32):
And thanks again, Jill. And hopefully you're going to be
on paradise and find that many of your dreams.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
But if you do, we're coming to see this.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's why we're coming to see it.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
From your mouth to God.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
God's DearS. Okay, God, listen up. Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
In the meantime, listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour
on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to podcasts.
Until next time, everybody, have a great week.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Thanks