Today on “Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena are here with a solo episode to ring in the new year! 2025 was an incredible journey for them personally and professionally, so they’re here to reflect on all of it with you. They kick things off getting into the highs and lows of the year and what they’re excited for in 2026. Then, we have our “Bachelor Happy Hour” 2025 wrapped! Joe and Serena take us through their best moments on the podcast, including their favorite episode of the year. Grab your champagne or your mocktail, get cozy, and ring in 2026 with us now! Be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode.
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Episode Transcript
Hey, everyone, welcome back to bet your Happy Hour. I'm
Joe and I'm Serena, and.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We are here today with a little New Year's Eve episode.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Just Serena and I chatting it up, talking about this year,
next year, and all the things in between.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
We're gonna get into twenty twenty five, a little bit
about us and our year and the we're gonna do
a little bit about the podcast in our twenty twenty
five recap and review all.
Speaker 5 (00:29):
The things in between.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Okay, so let's get uh.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Let's get personal, twenty twenty five personal. I'm gonna I'm
gonna start. You want to go, h question for question here?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
No, you just do it?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Okay, Okay, you ready, I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
All right, Let's start with this year as a whole.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
When you think back on it, what word would you
use to describe it?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Oh, my god, probably transitional?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Transitional? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
I got my Green card this year. I've done a
lot of transitioning from Toronto to hear it feels like,
despite the fact that I've lived in New York for
four years, it's felt like a big transition year on
a personal level for me. And professionally, I made some
(01:24):
changes this year yeah that have also felt very transitional.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So yeah, I feel like it's a good word. I turned.
How old I turned this year twenty eight twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
People say when you turn twenty seven, you develop like
this sense of clarity of like what is serving you
and what isn't serving you, And I definitely feel like
I felt that when I turned twenty seven. I felt
like I went into twenty twenty five because I've like
a late October birthday being like, Okay, I kind of
have a vision for this year, and actually I feel
(01:55):
like I executed kind of like all the things that
I went into this year wanting to do, and some things,
you know, were surprises or something's got decided like later
in the year. But I think overall everything worked out
very well and will hopefully continue.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
To work out very well.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, I didn't love this year personally. I thought it
was I actually found it to be.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Quite stressful.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, it's actually been more stressful as I would say, Like,
it wasn't like the middle of the year was chill,
like summer was chill, and it was more like since.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Like fall. His hit which usually is like the opposite
for us, but.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I have I've been like very anxiety ridden and very
stressed out. So I'm actually looking forward to midnight.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, I wouldn't disagree.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
I think this has been a big year for both
of us for a lot of different reasons. But transition
comes with a lot of stress, and change comes with
a lot of stress, and decision making comes with a
lot of stress, and I think all good things. But
I'm looking forward to a less transitional twenty twenty six
actually and kind of trying to sync into I don't know,
(03:22):
just like sinking into a place where.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
We feel a little more.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I actually just don't want to transition next year, I guess,
is what I'm saying. You know, like we did a
lot this year, it feels like and I am just
hoping to reap the benefits of those decisions next year.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Right, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, what's one moment from this year that really stands
out to you?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
M I would say, well, getting my green card was huge.
I mean that was like a two and a half
year journey and that was just like, yeah, a huge,
huge moment in my year that I was working towards
for so long. And our trip to Japan and South Korea,
(04:05):
I mean really unforgettable.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Yeah, that was a big one.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, and we've been talking about doing that since we
got together. It's been like a dream trip of mine
and I'm just so glad we did it this year.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I agree with both of those, just like even like
the montreal of it all of going to get your
green car then having getting denied at first because it
didn't we didn't have some of the right paperwork, having
to go back. My brother got married this year. Yeah,
there was that, so probably.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, your best man's speech, my.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Best man speech.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
What surprised you most about this year? Either personally or professionally.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Surprised me most.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
It really surprised me how painful it would be to
lose a tone from the marathon two months later.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, Joe a few weeks ago had his big toe
cut off my sorry, his big toe nail.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
They had to stick of needle in there numb at
five times, slice it open. I watched the whole thing
almost passed out.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
It was horrible. Really has has made me really consider
running marathons in the future, like it is.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, it is so hard on your body, not
just your body, like anyone that runs a marathon. Yeah,
impact on your body is intense, I make no doubt
about it.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It's one thing to deal with, like you know, being
sore and everything for like a week after and all that,
Like that's but like then when we linger on for
like a couple of months, where like now that I
have like a toenail that's half off, I gotta go
get it removed. And then like the pain of them
like all right, like I love it, like pay no
(05:52):
game whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
But like no, no, I'm not I'm.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Not a professional athlete. I don't need to do it.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
So yeah, so stay tuned for him running the marathon
twenty twenty six because I just feel like I feel
like it's one of those things like you know how
they say pregnant women give birth and it's like incredibly painful,
but you get this rush of endorphins after you give
birth that kind of makes you forget how painful it was,
and because of that, women can do it again and
again and again.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
I feel like that happens with the marathon too, Like
I feel like, for three months after, you're like that
was so hard. My body took such a beating, and
then all of a sudden, August rolls around and you're like,
why wouldn't I do it again?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I sometimes thinking to think about the act of having
a baby of like the like delivering a child just
like Carrie and not even just delivering it, carrying it
for nine months has to a be so uncomfortable. Yes,
it just has to be like I would be. That
would be like driving me insane. How uncomfortable that has
(06:56):
to be. And then pushing it out of such a small.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Pushing it out of your body.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Pushing it out of you.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It is so like just that, Like if you actually
sit back and just think about what's happening.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
It is so insane. It's like so wild, is it's.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's yeah, women are just out here making.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
People, making people. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
We are really all just you know, animals.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay, last question that will jump to twenty twenty five podcasts. Okay,
what's something you're more intentional about in your relationships now
than you were a year ago?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Choose wisely something that you're more intentional about in your relationship? Yes,
I think for us, I was actually just thinking about
this today. Is having a balance between work time together and.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Personal time together.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, we struggle with that, which is fine because we
both love working. We love working together, but we both
work from home together in our apartment that we live in,
so there's like no boundaries, which most of the time
is fine. But I think that's something that we are
starting to become more intentional about and can get even
(08:26):
better at next year.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Which is Serena's way of telling me to chill out.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Fair, Which is.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Fair because that doesn't have an off switch. He really doesn't, and.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
No, I don't, and it keeps me up at night.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah, and it's not good for you either. I'll wake
up in the middle of the night and he'll be
like on his email at two in the morning. Okay,
but wait, there's another question on here. I'm gonna ask,
and you have to answer too. What are you becoming
more intentional about with your relationships?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
With my relationships?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
It doesn't even have to be with me.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's more about.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I feel like I do a good job of this.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But I think it's just just spending you know, quality
time with uh, you know, friends, family, and just like
enjoying you know, relationships in person in person.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's just like I know.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I think I want to try to be able to.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Like something that I enjoyed this year that I didn't
get to do too much of, but I do enjoy
like Next year, I'm going to prioritize like being able
to go off a little more with my friends.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I can't even believe you just said that.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I feel like that is something that's quite important.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, I know you know you feel that way, but.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, I do think that's a good good Okay, wait
one more before no, and I reject everything you just said,
but let one more question that we'll go into podcasts.
Is there a habit or mindset you're leaving behind in
this past year?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Okay, So.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
I in the end of this year have been really
working on my relationship with my phone. I got a
hatch alarm clock so that I don't sleep with my
phone beside my bed, and Joe and I have been
puzzling at nighttime so that we have something to do
when we watch TV that's.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Not scroll on Instagram. But I want to continue.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I don't know if I'll be able to leave that
in twenty twenty five, because I just don't think that's realistic.
But I want to continue working on my relationship with
phone and social media. I actually don't feel like I
have an unhealthy relationship with social media in terms of.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Like a comparison mindset.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
I just feel like I genuinely reach for it, like
as a like a thoughtless habit that I don't need to.
Like I'll get in an elevator and I'll try to
open Instagram.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
What are you doing? You're going down seven floors? Like
that's insane. Yeah, so I want to work on that,
and I want to my other habits.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
This is like this is also like hybrid of a
New Year's resolution type thing.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Yeah, this is the hybrid of a Newyear's resolution, and
my other one I think would be.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
I don't know. I want to work on, like keeping
a less cluttered environment.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
I do think we're actually pretty tidy, but I just
think I could I let things pile up and then
I do like a big tidy just trying to be
more discipline of being on top of it is a
habit I want to leave in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I love that for you, what about you?
Speaker 5 (11:33):
I think that would be great for me as well.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I will say that I need to.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Like the truth is I am very much a.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Free spirit more of.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
I'm more of, you know, just like hippiesque like I'm
very chill person. You are in you aret like no
I am, And sometimes I lose that side of me
because I have I.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Have serious psychological issues.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
With constantly worrying about things going wrong anxiety. I just
can't like I am instantly like I go through pockets
of every year.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
When I say pockets.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Months just internally and outwardly panicking about things that just
are a out of my control and be like I
do this every year and every year it's fine, and
I keep doing it. So I need to work on
going back to who I truly am, which you know
(12:56):
is definitely more on the hippie chill.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't even know where you are not chill or
free spirited, and I can be, but I wouldn't say
you are at your core?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, and I want to. I need to spend a
little more. I need to prioritize like.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
More nature.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I love that. I would love to spend more time
in nature.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
I need.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
I need more time in nature to get back to
my core of who who?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Who you want to be?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
I not who I want to be? Who I really am.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
I just don't know why you think you're a chill.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Free spirited person like I am so chill.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
I would say you're chill with me, and I like.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Relationship in general.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
But as a person, you're pretty You got some big
feelings and that's okay.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I love that about you.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, but it's it's it's it's about how I express
those feelings.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yes, everyone has processed those feelings.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Everyone has big feelings.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah, but you have a lot of big feelings in
one day that are very different from one another.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
They fight with feature.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Okay, let's talk a little bit about twenty twenty five
podcasts and okay, so now let's we're gonna review Happy
Hour twenty twenty five. All right, So when you look
back on this year, what's a conversation or guest that
really stood out to you?
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Oh my god, are we doing our twenty twenty five Batchel?
Happy Hour wrapped?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I love a wrap.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Yeah, okay, let's give me one.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Okay, wait, can I tell you something.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
My number one Uber eats order on my Uber wrapped
this year was Chipotle, and I really would love for them.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
To send me a gold card.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
But I was only the top ten percent and I
think if I get into the top like three percent,
maybe they'll do it.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Chipotle. If you're listening, how do you see?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
You're wrapped?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You go to uber it was there and it's called
your you Ber.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I mean, I'm on you.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Do you see it?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
No?
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Oh, it might be gone. Now you might have missed it.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
I might have missed it.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
But this is the Bachelor Happy Hour twenty twenty five
rapped kind of okay, which is so fun?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
All right, So is there when you look back on
this year, is there a conversation or guests that really
stood out? And now when we talk about this year,
we have Grant season of The Bachelor and then No Bachelorette, Yes,
Bachelor in Paradise and Golden Yes, and then obviously like
(15:31):
the in Betweens people that we know that have come on,
if any of those conversations stood out to you?
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So, yeah, what would it would? What would it be?
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I'm gonna have to go with our interview with Jeremy.
We got to do that in person at that I
Hurt studio in New York, which was really nice for
us because we don't get to do a lot of
interviews in person, and.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean, I hate to say it was fun for
us because he.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Was like really going through it and there was a
lot of opinions about his time on the show and
the way he was acting. But I do love it
when we get the opportunity to give someone who's kind
of in the heat of like who's going through it,
going through it and like in the fire, to sit
down with them and give them the space to share
(16:19):
their story.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
And how they're handling it.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, how they're handling it, what they're going through. I
think it.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
He was you know, he was open to being honest
with us, and we were excited to give him that space,
and we like Jeremy and Yeah, I just thought that
that felt good, being like, oh, like, we're gonna use
this podcast to give this guy his moment, and that
opportunity doesn't always present itself.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I completely agree. I agree, that's a good that's a
good call. And there is just something about interviewing people
in person that it just makes it like we could
have good conversations over Zoom.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
We do, but it just makes it a more I
just feel like the guest.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Is more comfortable totally, because sometimes you can't always pick
up on our energy over you know, this little laptop
screen and yeah, I think people could come on and
be very like cautious of just us. Yeah, and it
just makes it harder for people to want to open up,
(17:34):
which I totally understand. So there is that connection in person.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Yeah, and yeah, it looks like.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Bailey and Jeremy are still really happy. So happy for them.
What's something about hosting the podcast this year that people
might not realize?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
I mean there's so much I feel like we don't
real dive into the behind the scenes of this podcast
or how it works. I guess something people might not
realize maybe they do, is like we fully set up
and take down a podcast studio in our living room
every single time we record this. Like we have a
light on us right now, we have like full blown
(18:18):
mic stands, we have systems attached to a work laptop,
like we're doing our audio on garage band like we do.
There's like a whole set in here right now to
record this podcast that we literally set up and take
down every recording.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
It's also a very chaotic space right now too, with
like the Christmas tree and the lights.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And then dry and Yeah, there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Going on off camera in this space.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
But we do our best to make it look cute
on zoom.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
And then you obviously always want to prep for anyone
that you're interviewing, even though like we watch them on
the show. You want to get a little you know,
background into the But sometimes I like to do less
because I like to learn as I go, like on
the Spot, because I'm a very free spirited, curious, very
(19:11):
curious person that when someone says something that I find intriguing,
I want to know more.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, curious George, curious, curious Joe over here, I'd.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Lose it by mid Is there something you've learned as
a host about listening, asking questions or just showing up
for our conversations? I could go first on that. Okay, Yeah,
I would say from doing this podcast and interviewing people,
definitely I've learned. Just I don't think I was a
(19:46):
really judging person ever going into this, but like you know,
always always sitting here being aware that there are two
sides to every story and even if the person is wrong,
you know, people make mistakes, and like I think it's
just going into every conversation not being judgmental because it's
(20:11):
easy to do and you watch something like what Reality
TV is great at is making you feel a certain
way about a certain person, and it's like these are
people and they're going through it, and even if they're
not aware of the mistake they made, like you know,
let's take it easy. So I think it's just like
(20:33):
giving people as much grace as possible because none of
us are perfect. And like, sure, it's easy for us
now because we were a successful story on the show
and everything went really well for us, and we are
in control of this podcast, so we could kind of,
you know, we have a little more control. But like
(20:56):
it's you know, being able to just like understand, like, hey,
it's just not as easy for some people, and some
people don't get as lucky as we did, and that's just.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
To just be like mindful of that.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I feel like anyone that comes on this podcast, we
never have any preconceived plan to paint them in a
certain life or light or make them come off a
certain way. Like we really want to be a blank
canvas for them to come on and tell their story
their way so that people can see their point of view.
(21:30):
I think that my thing from a more like logistical
perspective is being prepared with questions and like the main
things that we want to get to the bottom of
and ask these people. Obviously we want to be prepared
and like know what the big topics are that we
need to cover. But when they're answering a question, like
not being like, Okay, we need to talk about this next,
so like we're gonna ask this next, like really listening
(21:51):
to what they're saying and letting their answer guide us
into what our next question is. Yeah, So it doesn't
just feel like question answer, question answer. Try to make
it feel fluid and like a conversation. And you know,
if they say something interesting in their answer, like pulling
that thread.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, And I think that that is one of the
more challenging that's very.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
I still struggle with that sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And that's also the challenging part of Zoom and Over
and not in person.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Interviews because it doesn't feel as intimate or personally.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
It just makes it harder to get like, it makes
it harder for the conversation to flow more organically and
be able to pull things when Zoom is involved. Cool,
let's go one more and then we will wrap this thing.
Has doing this podcast changed how you think about Bachelor
(22:43):
Nation or the people who come out of it. I've
kind of always had, for the most part, the same
thoughts as far as like everyone's like, like I've I
don't know if I've ever had a bad interaction with
(23:04):
anybody off the show that I've that that's been on
the show. Like even if you watch somebody, you're like,
that person's a dick, Like, I don't think I've ever
had a bad.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, I would say I'm pretty much always pleasantly surprised
by our guests. Yeah, And like I think that's a
good thing for people watching to keep in mind, is
like even if you think you can't stand this person,
you'll probably meet them in person and be like, oh,
never mind, Like they're great.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Yeah, definitely, definitely great. Well that wraps it.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
That is a twenty twenty five Make sure you download
has described to batter a happy hour and everyone have
a happy New Year's Eve and good luck for twenty
twenty six.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
We hope you.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Stay safe and you ring in the new year however
you wish to in the best way possible. Thanks for
listening for the last year with us, Happy twenty twenty five,
and here's to an amazing twenty twenty six. We'll have
Newance This have interviews for you guys every single week.
Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
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The Burden is a documentary series that takes listeners into the hidden places where justice is done (and undone). It dives deep into the lives of heroes and villains. And it focuses a spotlight on those who triumph even when the odds are against them. Season 5 - The Burden: Death & Deceit in Alliance On April Fools Day 1999, 26-year-old Yvonne Layne was found murdered in her Alliance, Ohio home. David Thorne, her ex-boyfriend and father of one of her children, was instantly a suspect. Another young man admitted to the murder, and David breathed a sigh of relief, until the confessed murderer fingered David; “He paid me to do it.” David was sentenced to life without parole. Two decades later, Pulitzer winner and podcast host, Maggie Freleng (Bone Valley Season 3: Graves County, Wrongful Conviction, Suave) launched a “live” investigation into David's conviction alongside Jason Baldwin (himself wrongfully convicted as a member of the West Memphis Three). Maggie had come to believe that the entire investigation of David was botched by the tiny local police department, or worse, covered up the real killer. Was Maggie correct? Was David’s claim of innocence credible? In Death and Deceit in Alliance, Maggie recounts the case that launched her career, and ultimately, “broke” her.” The results will shock the listener and reduce Maggie to tears and self-doubt. This is not your typical wrongful conviction story. In fact, it turns the genre on its head. It asks the question: What if our champions are foolish? Season 4 - The Burden: Get the Money and Run “Trying to murder my father, this was the thing that put me on the path.” That’s Joe Loya and that path was bank robbery. Bank, bank, bank, bank, bank. In season 4 of The Burden: Get the Money and Run, we hear from Joe who was once the most prolific bank robber in Southern California, and beyond. He used disguises, body doubles, proxies. He leaped over counters, grabbed the money and ran. Even as the FBI was closing in. It was a showdown between a daring bank robber, and a patient FBI agent. Joe was no ordinary bank robber. He was bright, articulate, charismatic, and driven by a dark rage that he summoned up at will. In seven episodes, Joe tells all: the what, the how… and the why. Including why he tried to murder his father. Season 3 - The Burden: Avenger Miriam Lewin is one of Argentina’s leading journalists today. At 19 years old, she was kidnapped off the streets of Buenos Aires for her political activism and thrown into a concentration camp. Thousands of her fellow inmates were executed, tossed alive from a cargo plane into the ocean. Miriam, along with a handful of others, will survive the camp. Then as a journalist, she will wage a decades long campaign to bring her tormentors to justice. Avenger is about one woman’s triumphant battle against unbelievable odds to survive torture, claim justice for the crimes done against her and others like her, and change the future of her country. Season 2 - The Burden: Empire on Blood Empire on Blood is set in the Bronx, NY, in the early 90s, when two young drug dealers ruled an intersection known as “The Corner on Blood.” The boss, Calvin Buari, lived large. He and a protege swore they would build an empire on blood. Then the relationship frayed and the protege accused Calvin of a double homicide which he claimed he didn’t do. But did he? Award-winning journalist Steve Fishman spent seven years to answer that question. This is the story of one man’s last chance to overturn his life sentence. He may prevail, but someone’s gotta pay. The Burden: Empire on Blood is the director’s cut of the true crime classic which reached #1 on the charts when it was first released half a dozen years ago. Season 1 - The Burden In the 1990s, Detective Louis N. Scarcella was legendary. In a city overrun by violent crime, he cracked the toughest cases and put away the worst criminals. “The Hulk” was his nickname. Then the story changed. Scarcella ran into a group of convicted murderers who all say they are innocent. They turned themselves into jailhouse-lawyers and in prison founded a lway firm. When they realized Scarcella helped put many of them away, they set their sights on taking him down. And with the help of a NY Times reporter they have a chance. For years, Scarcella insisted he did nothing wrong. But that’s all he’d say. Until we tracked Scarcella to a sauna in a Russian bathhouse, where he started to talk..and talk and talk. “The guilty have gone free,” he whispered. And then agreed to take us into the belly of the beast. Welcome to The Burden.