July 3, 2025 • 31 mins
Today on Happy Hour, we're sitting down with the Paradise alum Kat Izzo! Kat is returning to the beach and we have lots to discuss with her! We kick off today's episode getting into how the decision to run back Paradise came to be. She then gets into the details of her last journey and the fallout from her former engagement. What really happened between her and John Henry? Then, we dish on this brand new season and how she prepared for her journey. She tells us her thoughts on the cast, what she was looking for, and so much more; will she be getting engaged again this summer?! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batcheler Happy Hour. I'm Joey
nic Serena. We are here today with Kat Izzel from
SAX season of Bachelor, Bachelor and Paradise season nine. Season
is that right?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I think season nine and you just got released, well,
the cast got released and you're part of the cast
of the new up and coming season of Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, season ten.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Back to back seasons, eh, because I guess they took
the year off. I didn't even think about that. You
are technically going to be on back to back seasons.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Technically on back to back season So it's happy to
be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Guys, why why did you Why did you do it? Why? Why?
Why did you do this to yourself? Cat?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You know, I just really needed to have some emotional
aggression on TV again.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It just sounded, you know, a feeling solusions powerful.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
But no, I really when asked me to do it,
I was obviously hesitant because it's not been the best experiences,
you know, first couple of rounds, but I've grown a
lot over the last two years. It sounded like it
was going to be a very different experience than previous
ones and I think when I thought about it, if
(01:18):
I were to have said no, you know, and just
you can't say no to things, you know, you have
to at least try it out and see what happens
and see what comes out of it. And I was
going in with a very different mentality than I think prior,
so just want to see what was going to come
from it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Okay, let's do a little bit of a ketchup, because
I do remember like you for the most part, from
what I remember, you kind of carried this season the
last paradise you were bringing. You were bringing the entertainment
for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, definitely the case.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, at the end of that paradise you get engaged
to John Henry, which is a which was kind of
out of left like it seemed like you guys you
got together near the end, you got engaged. After the show,
you call the engagement off. What have you been doing
since then? Have you been dating? I think you were
(02:12):
in a relationship prior to this, correct.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, So me and John Henry broke up pretty close
to when it was done airing, So that was I
want to say, like around December, end of November of
twenty twenty three. So I always had plans to move
to San Diego once I finished my M Keyboards. That's
what I was kind of studying for during airing.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So we broke up.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I passed my m keyboards and I moved to California
two days later, and then kind of just like got
settled in San Diego, took a really long break when
it came to keeping up with the show. I just
kind of wanted to focus on myself and like start
my career out here and meet new friends. I did
stickt into relationship around six months after that, and then
that also ended six months after that, so literally like
(03:00):
to back year my I had a relationship end on
like the same week, so wild you don't like the
holidays because literally was when that they both happened. But
it's been really amazing, like moving to California, the people
here are incredible.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I love my job.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I've been working as an inspectation now for about a
year and a half, working in my dream field of aesthetics,
and kind of just been like living my best life,
if you can say. It's definitely come with some ups
and downs, but overall, it's been a pretty good year
and a half since I've been here.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, because I remember you were studying for your MP
boards when you came on last time, which was kind
of right before Paradise ended. I think, did you write
those before or after the breakup?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Did I take them?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I took it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I had to push back the testing date because my
mental health was so compromised, so I ended up taking
it in Florida, like right after the breakup.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Okay, and a big pocket of life for you. Emotionally,
oh everything, mentally, yeah, everything.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
It was a lot, but it was kind of like
a way to be like, you're not gonna like nothing
is going to bring me down, Like I'm still gonna
keep doing what I was put on a serte to do.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So yeah, it's been great.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Can you all feel free to say no if you
don't want to talk about any of these things. But
why did you and John Henry break up?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
You know, nothing like serious that happened.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I think through the airing of the show, we started
to learn more about how we each I think, handle
conflict and adversity, and we just were not gonna I mean,
it wasn't my choice, and but it ultimately ended up
being something probably for the best. It was under the
(04:57):
umbrella of incompatibility, but we didn't really have like any
major like fights or anything like that. I just think
it just got too much and he wanted to go
into a different career path than originally we both thought
he would want to do, which ultimately led him to Hawaii.
And it just happened at a really hard time emotionally
with everything else that was going on. But overall, it
(05:20):
just we're not We're two good people, but we're definitely
not each other's people. And I think moments like how
the show aired and how everything went down with a
relationship really shows us what you can handle and if
you're going to be compactful in long term.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
When you guys got engaged, didn't you was there was
there a part of you that was like, Oh, I
don't know, I don't know no, so you you believe no?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I believed all. I will believe everything. No. I literally
was like, this is my person.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Now looking back, I'm like, I don't think so, but
I would just like a very different person. Like I
think that I just was such like a like I
wanted a relationship so badly. I saw that for myself,
and like I was willing to believe anything even though
there was signs in front of me that was saying,
this is not going to make sense. And I think
it took something as extreme as that for me to
(06:12):
like really sit back and evaluate like how I see
people and see the world. And now I tried a
little bit lighter. But yeah, no, I fully believed that
we were like.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, I'm going to marry this man, this is my husband.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Wow, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Watching him watching it back and seeing what he was saying.
I didn't know he said any of that. He didn't
tell me that, So I.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Was like, you just broke up with me and you
already had doubts, like I should have known.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, well it was wild. That's good information for the
upcoming season of Paradise. Your your past relationship, the one
that was six months and end it? Can you tell
us why that ended?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
How do you know it?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Even we just met through mutual friends.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
It was one of those relationships that I think is
going to probably help me learn the most about myself
that I've ever experienced. I have nothing negative to say
about it. It was it had its ups and downs.
It just you know, again, I don't think that we
were in the place of each other's lives where it
was going to be sustainable, but it was not the
healthiest I think you could agree. I think we just
(07:21):
triggered a lot of each other's wounds. But in that
you learn about yourself in your twenties, that's what it's about.
So I used that to really be like a catalyst
and to some deep therapies. That was really helpful.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You seem to have done a lot of work on yourself.
I know you've referenced therapy a few times. What specifically
is that work, Like, what have you been focusing on
and what do you hope to do differently going into
paradise this time.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I think just being curious and like truly like doing
an internal assessment of your triggers, who you are, and
like things are going to come up that you're not
gonna like, but not using that to like not to
cheer you from people, learning more and just showing up
in the world with a little bit more awareness and
like compassion and self love. I really did like deep
(08:11):
therapy with MDR recently in last six months, and that's
been the most beneficial. It's you know, supposed to help
with all my things, and it really has helped a lot,
But I think just learning how to like ground myself
in moments of high stress, being less reactive, because ultimately
that's I think was just my default state and learning
to like take that pause, and that's I.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Think what really helped in talking through and understanding yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Are you do you have any who do you hang
out with and you're in San Diego? Do you have
any like bachelor friends or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I'm still friends with Kylie see here pretty often. Some
of the other girls we grew apart, but still like
see each other and like do different things. It's just
San Diego's like such a community based area. Everybody like
becomes friends so easily, and people here are really welcoming.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So I've I have such amazing friends here.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I actually like met Jess Edwards like a month before
we went on Paradise together, and we're like kind of
have the same beautiful friends, and so she's been one
of my good friends and good friends throughout. So it's
been it's pretty much like everybody that's like in the
wellness like space, I would say, kind of all hang
out and they're same.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Love San Diego. Do you think you'll stay there for now?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah? For sure.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's a really good I would say place for where
I was at when it came to career. And then
I just love the community aspect of it. Everyone's very welcoming.
I mean it's still California, so they're still like fake energy,
but the real ones stick together.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So nice friend. Okay, so you are how your relationship ends? Yeah,
and you get a phone call for paradise. What's the
timeline from the relationship ending to the phone call of hey,
(10:06):
would you be interested in coming on Paradise?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I don't remember when they called me. It was this year.
I mean at first I was like, I'm not going
on Paradise. Me and my most relationship we broke up
around November, kind of lived in limbo until maybe.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Like January, February, I can't remember. Sometime it was.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
It's all a blur, but they called me, I want
to say, like around March or April, I can't remember,
somewhere around like springtime. But I was like I needed
a lot of convincing, like I didn't. I was not
just like yeah, I'll do it, Like I needed them
to like really make me feel comfortable about putting myself
back in that environment. And it was definitely something that
(10:51):
I decided to do very last than it because I
was still every time I say yes, I'd be like, no,
I can't do that again, like I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Was it? What was the deal breaker?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think I really was just like if I say
no and.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Regret it, like it's not something I want to like regret,
Like what if there was someone there actually that I
could meet or an experience that could be helpful for
me to understand myself again, you know, It's just it's
not something you really say no too.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But it was mostly convincing me. With the air conditioning.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I was like, you have to promise that there is
air conditioning otherwise I'm not going like I'm not doing it,
and they every time I asked was always started the
conversation and not up for it, you know, like you know,
I didn't know it was true or not. But I
also said I have the ability to literally like it's
not what I want, I'm I could just leap, like
(11:43):
I don't have to stay. And I was going in
knowing literally no one, knowing nothing about the shows I
haven't been watching, so like it was just a completely
different mindset versus like knowing every single thing about every
guy on Paradise last time and being friends with the girls,
so I wanted to kind of just like see how
that was going to play out.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What did your friends and family say when you were like,
I think I'm going to go back on Paradise this year.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Some of them were like, absolutely not, please don't because
we can't handle it again. But some were like, you
should just go for it, and you have a lot
more like you're different person and I think you'd handle
it differently and why would you say no to something
like that? But yeah, I immediately texted my little group
chat and it was like help SOS.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
What was your base fear going back on my.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Biggest fear so many Well, I just learned that people
are very different outside of the show, and I think
I was mostly just like scared I was going to
get wrapped up in it again and then ended up
leaving getting hurt when I came off it.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You know, I knew there was bugs, so I can't
be afraid of that.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
But it was mostly just like the trusting someone again
and it be to my detriment and make sure that
I don't get wrapped up in it. All the things
and just making sure I can like stay grounded.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's definitely one of those things where once you're like,
once you're in this world and you are single, it
really is like it's kind it's hard to say no
because it's just like yeah, it's it's just easier to
say yes, you know, yes I will. Just it's one
of those things where it's like, you don't I agree
(13:27):
with you, And that's probably why I've always said yes
as well. It's just like I don't want to live
with the regrets.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You're probably I'm more likely going to regret not doing
this doing it when it comes down to it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, it's just I think I was so scared that,
you know, if you're putting yourself out there to be analyzed, criticized,
puts apart just like overall judged, Like that was really
really hard on my mental health, and it was hard
to feel my character being misunderstood. So I think I
just like didn't know if I was willing to, like,
(14:00):
I'm very happy with where I'm at in life, and
I didn't know if I wanted to kind of like
you know, uproot, you know, put that under a microscope again.
And the subject to.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Keep judgement. Yeah, do you have a plan going into
this season of how you'll handle being judged negatively by people?
Because I agree with me, it's not easy.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
It's not I think also I understand it more like
the first time around, I didn't understand the way that
public response is or how people like like. It's just
like I didn't know that this was something that people
face to this extent and not taking it so personally,
keeping your people close and knowing that that's what matters.
(14:46):
I have a really good support team and system in place,
so and I just.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Don't care like I don't.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I don't feel the desire to look at it or
see it and use that to determine my work the
way I think I did before because I was just
so like, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah? And it goes away?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I mean it does now I know that it is temporary.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Like at the time, you feel like it's never going
to end, and this time you're going to deal with
the rest of your life. But now that I know
that it comes in waves, you can handle a wave
I can handle anyways.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You're the first. You're the first contestant. You're the first
contestant that we are interviewing that's been on Paradise before. Okay,
living living conditions, what's like much better because I've heard
we're hearing much better.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Oh my god, Like its incredible, like really different. Yeah,
I'm not sure how much I could share, but it
was it is nothing like previous paradise absolutely not like
it's It really just shows like how much your mental
health can be, like so much better when you can
do your hair and your makeup.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Not in humanity. It really brings.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
The different it's like or just to be able to
have somewhere to escape to to like take a breath
and like pull down.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
It was so much better.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
You had just a bed to sleep in that you
didn't have to step outside your bed and there was
sand on the ground. Or you shower and you feel clean,
like truly it was like little things like that, like
you actually can like feel clean and refreshed, and then
you just feel more like you're better self. Like I
didn't shower without I showered like three times a day
just to cool off, and then you would step outside
the shower and their sand like on the floor.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, we just saw I just
saw a clip. We just saw a clip of each other,
and I was like, my face is so fucking oily.
It looks like I haven't seen a shower. Like I
got engaged. I got engaged. I wasn't even matching, like
nothing matched. Like I was like I we the mirrors.
You couldn't even really see yourself because they were always folded.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
There was no mirrors.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I used like the small compact like thing in my
like eye shadow palate, like just see and like just
sitting there trying not to like I didn't do my
hair previous paradise, I couldn't do my makeup like it was.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, you just love life like that.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I'm like, I need to actually take it second to
take care of myself this time because last time people
saw me, I was like a frat.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well, you also would just feel sexier to to like
go out and flirt with boys when you're like I
feel cute.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, yes, you could self tan and not start sweating
off like I was like actually able to do my
self tan routine like it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It was so much better.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
It was like during the wedding episode of Marine kind
of getting married, like I had self tanner sitting like
on me like fresh because I'm like, I'm pale right
now and I can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
And it was almost in the sun, Like I don't
really get that tan on Paradise because I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, no, I don't sun, but I wouldn't be able
to because it's just too hot. But also the weather
in Coastrica was different, like I think because it rained
more that there was so much more of a cool
breeze than like ours, and we high no rain, so
it was like just constantly like fought and humid the
entire time, like.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
There was no breeze.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
So there's like you're consistent breeze and I kind of
love doing it rains because then we could go inside and.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You're an inside girl, you really are.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I'm an outside girl in the right positions, Like I'm
outside all the time in San Diego because it's like
six or seven right now.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Nice but it's.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So yeah, the summer here is unreal, but yeah, no
anywhere else, Yeah, I'm inside.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I prefer the indoors no more.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Evy, we see that the cast is obviously dropped. We know,
you know, we don't know who's coming, but we know
who's down there. Day one was there anyone that you
were nervous or excited to see.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I didn't know anybody like going, and I didn't know
who was going. I didn't know who could potentially be there,
So I guess I was just nervous because like, I
didn't know what to expect, but there wasn't I really
didn't know anyone that was going to be there, or
one they would be there anything.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But when you saw them, did you know who they?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Some of them were like that first day, like did
you I.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Knew who Jonathan Wise because I've seen him in San Diego,
didn't know Jeremy, didn't know Spencer, Like I had no
idea whose people were.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
How about the Goldens? Did you Did you have any
clue who any of them would be?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So weirdly enough, the weekend before was Stagecoach. I like,
finished Stage Coach and gone on a plane. I met
Keith in the middle of Tea Payne like front row pain.
That was like wait what and then he's like, I'm
going too, and I was like, wait, this is so funny.
You're so cool, and like I can't wait to be
on the beach with you.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
We love Keith, But that's it. I didn't know anyone else.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Were you more excited about that or were you kind
of like, oh, I wish I had like one girl
here that I could.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Well I did, I had Jeff, I had Jeff Edwards,
but other I mean, honestly, no, I think it really
ended up affecting how we all moved in Paradise, like
having you know, that like underlying friendship and like knowing
what everyone was who they wanted, because then nobody wanted
to like act for themselves in a way. So I
loved that every friendship was going to start off fresh
(20:07):
and I can pretty much become fronts with anybody, especially girlies.
So I figured everyone is going to be someone that
I became friends with in the moment.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
What you got, you got something?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I got something.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I got something too, So.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
All right, in terms of a relationship, what were you
looking for?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
God damn it, that was literally that was that was
where I was. I was going to say, qualities, Okay,
well wow, same same, same.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Same graveling. I was like, really just looking for an
adult somebody that was like Keith, listen, they might be
of age, but you don't know, they could still just
be band children.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But that's true.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I really just wanted somebody that has lived enough life
I think, to be able to be like a good
supportive partner and like take life seriously with me. Someone
I could like trust what's going to be there for
me through the ups and downs, and mostly just qualities
of compassion and kindness to everybody, and like truly like authentic,
like who they are, who they say they are. There's
(21:20):
no like people pleasing, there's no like I want to
be this way, to be that way, like just be
yourself and have fun. Obviously somebody that can laugh with me,
but mostly somebody that at least was like above the
age of thirty, because usually they're testosterones down a little bit,
so they're a little tired.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Because yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I would not want to like go out every weekend
like take you know, just has their priorities intact and
nothing to say, like I'm not like throwing shade. It's
just like I think I've learned through my relationships that
I that's where I'm at and like that's how I
value my life and my priorities. And it's so much
better when your person matches that because then you're not
like conflicting with each other on what how you want to.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Do, like to get vend your Saturday, right.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
So I really just wanted that. And then someone that
thinks so funny it's about.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It, was there anyone that was there? Anyone that you
were worried about potentially being there that you were like,
I really hope I don't see this person on the
beach guys anyway, like like did you? Yeah, who were you?
Who were you beefing with on your on your season
of Paradise.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I think it's just well, Olivia didn't really, it.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Wasn't very I just like I didn't want anything or
anyone that was there to create some like I guess
just like chaos and drama because when that happens, it
really takes away from building a relationship with like your
potential partner. So I just didn't want anyone that could
(22:54):
potentially do that. I don't know if that would have
been her m, but there's still not worry if any
of that. I called John Henry the moment I got
my call, so I was like, are you gonna be
on this page with me? I need to know yeah,
And he told me he couldn't because of work and stuff,
and then we caught up so we're in a good place.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But even if he was, it would have been fine.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I was like, you should like this, you know whatever
we'll see, but uh.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I think that I have a little bit more confidence
in how I handle things now where I could weather
a lot more than I could before.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, going into this season, did you have any like,
like I know you said you feel like you're going
to handle thing blood differently this time. Did you have
like any grounding techniques or specific things that you were
like bringing in with you and your their meditations?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, I meditate. I meditate.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I was journaling every day.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I did not do that last time, just to you know,
you can get lost track of time. Day's London to
each other and just like keeping every day like like
I had to like go back and read where my
thoughts are at. I checked in with the therapists like
almost every three days while on set, just to ground myself,
talk about how I'm feeling, make sure that everything seems
(24:15):
like okay, some eft's happening online, your spots. Whenever you're
feeling stressed, like you hit that and it's like supposed
to colm down your nervous system.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Beta blockers are really great.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
It was taking that a few times just like you know,
I don't know, I just but also like not taking
it too seriously, like just having fun and like understanding
that this is it's I took it so seriously before.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And I think just like the new mindset can be
new wonders for what can happen.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Were you open to an engagement this time or were
you more just like I'm gonna take my time see
where this goes, and I kind of want to just
like leave in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I did not go in saying I was going to
leave engage that is it. I didn't. I definitely was
not going in and say I was going to be
engaged to any capacity.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, I will say like my my second time around,
I was more prepared to have the core the right
conversations with Serena as far as just like how how
actually do we see this working after this showing and
did you did you do that? Like are were you
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open to are you open to moving?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
If that's the case, If am I open to one?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Like if you meet someone, are you open to potentially moving?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Like oh yeah, I was asking I knew way more
about or I yeah, I went in with a lot
more awareness on like what I needed to ask and
things I needed to like assess, and how I needed
to see how people handled situations than I did in
the past, just from but you can only really do
that if you've already lived in and so that's pretty
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much how I approached it. So it wasn't just like
blindly like oh, you're cute and like you're funny, and
like this is gonna be great, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Like No, it was very very like thought out without
giving too much away obviously, how do you feel like
this experience on Bachelom Paradise for you was different from
your first experience?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I mean was a laundry list.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
There's like oh, from the environment, from the people, from
like how I showed up, from just every like the
the beach, the creative, like the it was just fun
like it was I had a lot of good I
had a really good time. I would say, we don't
want to give everything away. It definitely came still with
ups and downs, like it's still you know, an environment
(26:48):
where you're putting yourself out there to potentially be heard,
and like you don't know how it's gonna end. And
but that's with everything, that's with life, So I just
approached it from that perspective, but it was just so
much more like and I.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Who knows, So I'm delusional, Like I think I said that.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
You're freaking out already. You're freaking out already.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Like you know what, I'm freaking out because I'm saying
it's positive, and like I did that before and it
was not so scared enough.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I get that, but you know, I want it to
air and then be like, wait, this is what went down,
this is how it came across.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You know, wh I rather live life the rose colored glasses.
I don't care. I love being delusional. It's not me
be very far.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So I think I think it's gonna go I mean,
if I were to guess, I think it's gonna go
good for you. But like then again, like I've been wrong,
so I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
If it all comes down to like how it's I mean,
I think I also like was not I remember so
much of it, maybe just because I was journaling as
often as I was, but like before I remember like
how it wasn't just like Boston the sauce I think I.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Was or you like I know what's going on present?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
How was having the Golden Sale there?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
It was so fun.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
It was a great, great choice, Like good job Produceriously,
it was incredible.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
They were they just like when I guess when you're
at that age, you just don't care. So it was
like they're not.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Worried about Instagram followers or how they're like gonna look
for their brand. Like they're just actually like so authentic
and who they are. And they gave us a lot
of insight to just like life, and I got to
learn about so many of their different stories and things
that they've experienced, and I feel like that put into
perspective like where we're all at now and kind of
just take things a little less like intensely.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
But they were just so fun. They were hilarious. They
did not care. They had a great time. They made
us loose enough.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Actually, how was how was having Hannah Brown there?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
It was really fun too. She was like kind of
like a girly.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
She was there mostly during Rose ceremony nights and stuff
and just kind of someone to like tell the tea
too and see how she experienced stuff. It was also
for me like she's lived a lot of she's done
the show in different ways and been part of it,
so I felt like I could connect with her in
that way and understand like if I'm having a if
I'm on the verge of having a cash out, like
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you know, it's this valid to be brought back down
to earth and she was there for that.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
If after watching this current season, what do you want
the viewers to learn about who you are as a person?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Oh, I don't know. That's scary. I guess just like.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
That I am human, Like we're just I'm a very
like normal girl living a very normal life. And you
can also see where like whatever happens in your life
like stages and seasons does not have to define you
in any carasting like you have that autonomy to change
how you go through life. And I think that that's
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going to be shown. And that's also just something I've
kind of done my entire life. So maybe just that
and like that I'm just like a normal girly and
like live more delusional. It's a lot easier that way.
This is true yourself, like like just I'm I'm accidentally
authentic to a bon't and nobody should ever be ashamed
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of that, like own it.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
If you could tease this upcoming season of Paradise.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
In a few words, Oh gosh, what would you do?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Oh? It is different, fun and more aesthetically pleasing. I
would say, for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It looks that way.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yew.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
The teasers are looking really good.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
It's much more aesthetically even.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Like the headshot, everything is elevated and I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Actually not for that part.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Joe's jealous.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
I knew there was going to be someone that like
wanted us to still look like like a little wrap
on the beach, like they're like fise like of.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Them like dying and like, no, no, this was really good.
Never to go back. No, I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, Kat, we are really looking forward to watching you
on this upcoming season of Paradise. We wish you the best.
I'm sure we'll hear from you again. Thank you so
much for hopping on. Thank you fun, and to all
our listeners, thank you for tuning in the bet You're
Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
We have new exclusive interviews coming every single week as
we tea up for the new season of Bachelor Paradise
airing very soon. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Bye
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Batcheler Happy Hour. I'm Joey
nic Serena. We are here today with Kat Izzel from
SAX season of Bachelor, Bachelor and Paradise season nine. Season
is that right?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I think season nine and you just got released, well,
the cast got released and you're part of the cast
of the new up and coming season of Bachelor in Paradise.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, season ten.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Back to back seasons, eh, because I guess they took
the year off. I didn't even think about that. You
are technically going to be on back to back seasons.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Technically on back to back season So it's happy to
be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Guys, why why did you Why did you do it? Why? Why?
Why did you do this to yourself? Cat?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You know, I just really needed to have some emotional
aggression on TV again.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It just sounded, you know, a feeling solusions powerful.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
But no, I really when asked me to do it,
I was obviously hesitant because it's not been the best experiences,
you know, first couple of rounds, but I've grown a
lot over the last two years. It sounded like it
was going to be a very different experience than previous
ones and I think when I thought about it, if
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I were to have said no, you know, and just
you can't say no to things, you know, you have
to at least try it out and see what happens
and see what comes out of it. And I was
going in with a very different mentality than I think prior,
so just want to see what was going to come
from it.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Okay, let's do a little bit of a ketchup, because
I do remember like you for the most part, from
what I remember, you kind of carried this season the
last paradise you were bringing. You were bringing the entertainment
for sure.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, definitely the case.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, at the end of that paradise you get engaged
to John Henry, which is a which was kind of
out of left like it seemed like you guys you
got together near the end, you got engaged. After the show,
you call the engagement off. What have you been doing
since then? Have you been dating? I think you were
(02:12):
in a relationship prior to this, correct.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah, So me and John Henry broke up pretty close
to when it was done airing, So that was I
want to say, like around December, end of November of
twenty twenty three. So I always had plans to move
to San Diego once I finished my M Keyboards. That's
what I was kind of studying for during airing.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So we broke up.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I passed my m keyboards and I moved to California
two days later, and then kind of just like got
settled in San Diego, took a really long break when
it came to keeping up with the show. I just
kind of wanted to focus on myself and like start
my career out here and meet new friends. I did
stickt into relationship around six months after that, and then
that also ended six months after that, so literally like
(03:00):
to back year my I had a relationship end on
like the same week, so wild you don't like the
holidays because literally was when that they both happened. But
it's been really amazing, like moving to California, the people
here are incredible.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I love my job.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I've been working as an inspectation now for about a
year and a half, working in my dream field of aesthetics,
and kind of just been like living my best life,
if you can say. It's definitely come with some ups
and downs, but overall, it's been a pretty good year
and a half since I've been here.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, because I remember you were studying for your MP
boards when you came on last time, which was kind
of right before Paradise ended. I think, did you write
those before or after the breakup?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Did I take them?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I took it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
I had to push back the testing date because my
mental health was so compromised, so I ended up taking
it in Florida, like right after the breakup.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Okay, and a big pocket of life for you. Emotionally,
oh everything, mentally, yeah, everything.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
It was a lot, but it was kind of like
a way to be like, you're not gonna like nothing
is going to bring me down, Like I'm still gonna
keep doing what I was put on a serte to do.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
So yeah, it's been great.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Can you all feel free to say no if you
don't want to talk about any of these things. But
why did you and John Henry break up?
Speaker 3 (04:31):
You know, nothing like serious that happened.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I think through the airing of the show, we started
to learn more about how we each I think, handle
conflict and adversity, and we just were not gonna I mean,
it wasn't my choice, and but it ultimately ended up
being something probably for the best. It was under the
(04:57):
umbrella of incompatibility, but we didn't really have like any
major like fights or anything like that. I just think
it just got too much and he wanted to go
into a different career path than originally we both thought
he would want to do, which ultimately led him to Hawaii.
And it just happened at a really hard time emotionally
with everything else that was going on. But overall, it
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just we're not We're two good people, but we're definitely
not each other's people. And I think moments like how
the show aired and how everything went down with a
relationship really shows us what you can handle and if
you're going to be compactful in long term.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
When you guys got engaged, didn't you was there was
there a part of you that was like, Oh, I
don't know, I don't know no, so you you believe no?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
I believed all. I will believe everything. No. I literally
was like, this is my person.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Now looking back, I'm like, I don't think so, but
I would just like a very different person. Like I
think that I just was such like a like I
wanted a relationship so badly. I saw that for myself,
and like I was willing to believe anything even though
there was signs in front of me that was saying,
this is not going to make sense. And I think
it took something as extreme as that for me to
(06:12):
like really sit back and evaluate like how I see
people and see the world. And now I tried a
little bit lighter. But yeah, no, I fully believed that
we were like.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, I'm going to marry this man, this is my husband.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Wow, Okay, that's good.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Watching him watching it back and seeing what he was saying.
I didn't know he said any of that. He didn't
tell me that, So I.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Was like, you just broke up with me and you
already had doubts, like I should have known.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah, well it was wild. That's good information for the
upcoming season of Paradise. Your your past relationship, the one
that was six months and end it? Can you tell
us why that ended?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (06:54):
How do you know it?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Even we just met through mutual friends.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
It was one of those relationships that I think is
going to probably help me learn the most about myself
that I've ever experienced. I have nothing negative to say
about it. It was it had its ups and downs.
It just you know, again, I don't think that we
were in the place of each other's lives where it
was going to be sustainable, but it was not the
healthiest I think you could agree. I think we just
(07:21):
triggered a lot of each other's wounds. But in that
you learn about yourself in your twenties, that's what it's about.
So I used that to really be like a catalyst
and to some deep therapies. That was really helpful.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You seem to have done a lot of work on yourself.
I know you've referenced therapy a few times. What specifically
is that work, Like, what have you been focusing on
and what do you hope to do differently going into
paradise this time.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I think just being curious and like truly like doing
an internal assessment of your triggers, who you are, and
like things are going to come up that you're not
gonna like, but not using that to like not to
cheer you from people, learning more and just showing up
in the world with a little bit more awareness and
like compassion and self love. I really did like deep
(08:11):
therapy with MDR recently in last six months, and that's
been the most beneficial. It's you know, supposed to help
with all my things, and it really has helped a lot,
But I think just learning how to like ground myself
in moments of high stress, being less reactive, because ultimately
that's I think was just my default state and learning
to like take that pause, and that's I.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Think what really helped in talking through and understanding yourself.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Are you do you have any who do you hang
out with and you're in San Diego? Do you have
any like bachelor friends or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I'm still friends with Kylie see here pretty often. Some
of the other girls we grew apart, but still like
see each other and like do different things. It's just
San Diego's like such a community based area. Everybody like
becomes friends so easily, and people here are really welcoming.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So I've I have such amazing friends here.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I actually like met Jess Edwards like a month before
we went on Paradise together, and we're like kind of
have the same beautiful friends, and so she's been one
of my good friends and good friends throughout. So it's
been it's pretty much like everybody that's like in the
wellness like space, I would say, kind of all hang
out and they're same.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Love San Diego. Do you think you'll stay there for now?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah? For sure.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It's a really good I would say place for where
I was at when it came to career. And then
I just love the community aspect of it. Everyone's very welcoming.
I mean it's still California, so they're still like fake energy,
but the real ones stick together.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
So nice friend. Okay, so you are how your relationship ends? Yeah,
and you get a phone call for paradise. What's the
timeline from the relationship ending to the phone call of hey,
(10:06):
would you be interested in coming on Paradise?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I don't remember when they called me. It was this year.
I mean at first I was like, I'm not going
on Paradise. Me and my most relationship we broke up
around November, kind of lived in limbo until maybe.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Like January, February, I can't remember. Sometime it was.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
It's all a blur, but they called me, I want
to say, like around March or April, I can't remember,
somewhere around like springtime. But I was like I needed
a lot of convincing, like I didn't. I was not
just like yeah, I'll do it, Like I needed them
to like really make me feel comfortable about putting myself
back in that environment. And it was definitely something that
(10:51):
I decided to do very last than it because I
was still every time I say yes, I'd be like, no,
I can't do that again, like I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Was it? What was the deal breaker?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
I think I really was just like if I say
no and.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Regret it, like it's not something I want to like regret,
Like what if there was someone there actually that I
could meet or an experience that could be helpful for
me to understand myself again, you know, It's just it's
not something you really say no too.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
But it was mostly convincing me. With the air conditioning.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I was like, you have to promise that there is
air conditioning otherwise I'm not going like I'm not doing it,
and they every time I asked was always started the
conversation and not up for it, you know, like you know,
I didn't know it was true or not. But I
also said I have the ability to literally like it's
not what I want, I'm I could just leap, like
(11:43):
I don't have to stay. And I was going in
knowing literally no one, knowing nothing about the shows I
haven't been watching, so like it was just a completely
different mindset versus like knowing every single thing about every
guy on Paradise last time and being friends with the girls,
so I wanted to kind of just like see how
that was going to play out.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
What did your friends and family say when you were like,
I think I'm going to go back on Paradise this year.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Some of them were like, absolutely not, please don't because
we can't handle it again. But some were like, you
should just go for it, and you have a lot
more like you're different person and I think you'd handle
it differently and why would you say no to something
like that? But yeah, I immediately texted my little group
chat and it was like help SOS.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
What was your base fear going back on my.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Biggest fear so many Well, I just learned that people
are very different outside of the show, and I think
I was mostly just like scared I was going to
get wrapped up in it again and then ended up
leaving getting hurt when I came off it.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You know, I knew there was bugs, so I can't
be afraid of that.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
But it was mostly just like the trusting someone again
and it be to my detriment and make sure that
I don't get wrapped up in it. All the things
and just making sure I can like stay grounded.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
It's definitely one of those things where once you're like,
once you're in this world and you are single, it
really is like it's kind it's hard to say no
because it's just like yeah, it's it's just easier to
say yes, you know, yes I will. Just it's one
of those things where it's like, you don't I agree
(13:27):
with you, And that's probably why I've always said yes
as well. It's just like I don't want to live
with the regrets.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
You're probably I'm more likely going to regret not doing
this doing it when it comes down to it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, it's just I think I was so scared that,
you know, if you're putting yourself out there to be analyzed, criticized,
puts apart just like overall judged, Like that was really
really hard on my mental health, and it was hard
to feel my character being misunderstood. So I think I
just like didn't know if I was willing to, like,
(14:00):
I'm very happy with where I'm at in life, and
I didn't know if I wanted to kind of like
you know, uproot, you know, put that under a microscope again.
And the subject to.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Keep judgement. Yeah, do you have a plan going into
this season of how you'll handle being judged negatively by people?
Because I agree with me, it's not easy.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
It's not I think also I understand it more like
the first time around, I didn't understand the way that
public response is or how people like like. It's just
like I didn't know that this was something that people
face to this extent and not taking it so personally,
keeping your people close and knowing that that's what matters.
(14:46):
I have a really good support team and system in place,
so and I just.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Don't care like I don't.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I don't feel the desire to look at it or
see it and use that to determine my work the
way I think I did before because I was just
so like, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah? And it goes away?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I mean it does now I know that it is temporary.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Like at the time, you feel like it's never going
to end, and this time you're going to deal with
the rest of your life. But now that I know
that it comes in waves, you can handle a wave
I can handle anyways.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You're the first. You're the first contestant. You're the first
contestant that we are interviewing that's been on Paradise before. Okay,
living living conditions, what's like much better because I've heard
we're hearing much better.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Oh my god, Like its incredible, like really different. Yeah,
I'm not sure how much I could share, but it
was it is nothing like previous paradise absolutely not like
it's It really just shows like how much your mental
health can be, like so much better when you can
do your hair and your makeup.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Not in humanity. It really brings.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
The different it's like or just to be able to
have somewhere to escape to to like take a breath
and like pull down.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
It was so much better.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
You had just a bed to sleep in that you
didn't have to step outside your bed and there was
sand on the ground. Or you shower and you feel clean,
like truly it was like little things like that, like
you actually can like feel clean and refreshed, and then
you just feel more like you're better self. Like I
didn't shower without I showered like three times a day
just to cool off, and then you would step outside
the shower and their sand like on the floor.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, we just saw I just
saw a clip. We just saw a clip of each other,
and I was like, my face is so fucking oily.
It looks like I haven't seen a shower. Like I
got engaged. I got engaged. I wasn't even matching, like
nothing matched. Like I was like I we the mirrors.
You couldn't even really see yourself because they were always folded.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
There was no mirrors.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I used like the small compact like thing in my
like eye shadow palate, like just see and like just
sitting there trying not to like I didn't do my
hair previous paradise, I couldn't do my makeup like it was.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, you just love life like that.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I'm like, I need to actually take it second to
take care of myself this time because last time people
saw me, I was like a frat.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Well, you also would just feel sexier to to like
go out and flirt with boys when you're like I
feel cute.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, yes, you could self tan and not start sweating
off like I was like actually able to do my
self tan routine like it was amazing.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It was so much better.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
It was like during the wedding episode of Marine kind
of getting married, like I had self tanner sitting like
on me like fresh because I'm like, I'm pale right
now and I can't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
And it was almost in the sun, Like I don't
really get that tan on Paradise because I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Yeah, no, I don't sun, but I wouldn't be able
to because it's just too hot. But also the weather
in Coastrica was different, like I think because it rained
more that there was so much more of a cool
breeze than like ours, and we high no rain, so
it was like just constantly like fought and humid the
entire time, like.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
There was no breeze.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
So there's like you're consistent breeze and I kind of
love doing it rains because then we could go inside and.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
You're an inside girl, you really are.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I'm an outside girl in the right positions, Like I'm
outside all the time in San Diego because it's like
six or seven right now.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Nice but it's.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
So yeah, the summer here is unreal, but yeah, no
anywhere else, Yeah, I'm inside.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I prefer the indoors no more.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Evy, we see that the cast is obviously dropped. We know,
you know, we don't know who's coming, but we know
who's down there. Day one was there anyone that you
were nervous or excited to see.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
I didn't know anybody like going, and I didn't know
who was going. I didn't know who could potentially be there,
So I guess I was just nervous because like, I
didn't know what to expect, but there wasn't I really
didn't know anyone that was going to be there, or
one they would be there anything.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
But when you saw them, did you know who they?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Some of them were like that first day, like did
you I.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
Knew who Jonathan Wise because I've seen him in San Diego,
didn't know Jeremy, didn't know Spencer, Like I had no
idea whose people were.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
How about the Goldens? Did you Did you have any
clue who any of them would be?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
So weirdly enough, the weekend before was Stagecoach. I like,
finished Stage Coach and gone on a plane. I met
Keith in the middle of Tea Payne like front row pain.
That was like wait what and then he's like, I'm
going too, and I was like, wait, this is so funny.
You're so cool, and like I can't wait to be
on the beach with you.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
We love Keith, But that's it. I didn't know anyone else.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Were you more excited about that or were you kind
of like, oh, I wish I had like one girl
here that I could.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Well I did, I had Jeff, I had Jeff Edwards,
but other I mean, honestly, no, I think it really
ended up affecting how we all moved in Paradise, like
having you know, that like underlying friendship and like knowing
what everyone was who they wanted, because then nobody wanted
to like act for themselves in a way. So I
loved that every friendship was going to start off fresh
(20:07):
and I can pretty much become fronts with anybody, especially girlies.
So I figured everyone is going to be someone that
I became friends with in the moment.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
What you got, you got something?
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Yeah, I got something.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I got something too, So.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
All right, in terms of a relationship, what were you
looking for?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
God damn it, that was literally that was that was
where I was. I was going to say, qualities, Okay,
well wow, same same, same.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Same graveling. I was like, really just looking for an
adult somebody that was like Keith, listen, they might be
of age, but you don't know, they could still just
be band children.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But that's true.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
I really just wanted somebody that has lived enough life
I think, to be able to be like a good
supportive partner and like take life seriously with me. Someone
I could like trust what's going to be there for
me through the ups and downs, and mostly just qualities
of compassion and kindness to everybody, and like truly like authentic,
like who they are, who they say they are. There's
(21:20):
no like people pleasing, there's no like I want to
be this way, to be that way, like just be
yourself and have fun. Obviously somebody that can laugh with me,
but mostly somebody that at least was like above the
age of thirty, because usually they're testosterones down a little bit,
so they're a little tired.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Because yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I would not want to like go out every weekend
like take you know, just has their priorities intact and
nothing to say, like I'm not like throwing shade. It's
just like I think I've learned through my relationships that
I that's where I'm at and like that's how I
value my life and my priorities. And it's so much
better when your person matches that because then you're not
like conflicting with each other on what how you want to.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Do, like to get vend your Saturday, right.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
So I really just wanted that. And then someone that
thinks so funny it's about.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
It, was there anyone that was there? Anyone that you
were worried about potentially being there that you were like,
I really hope I don't see this person on the
beach guys anyway, like like did you? Yeah, who were you?
Who were you beefing with on your on your season
of Paradise.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
I think it's just well, Olivia didn't really, it.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Wasn't very I just like I didn't want anything or
anyone that was there to create some like I guess
just like chaos and drama because when that happens, it
really takes away from building a relationship with like your
potential partner. So I just didn't want anyone that could
(22:54):
potentially do that. I don't know if that would have
been her m, but there's still not worry if any
of that. I called John Henry the moment I got
my call, so I was like, are you gonna be
on this page with me? I need to know yeah,
And he told me he couldn't because of work and stuff,
and then we caught up so we're in a good place.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
But even if he was, it would have been fine.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
I was like, you should like this, you know whatever
we'll see, but uh.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I think that I have a little bit more confidence
in how I handle things now where I could weather
a lot more than I could before.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, going into this season, did you have any like,
like I know you said you feel like you're going
to handle thing blood differently this time. Did you have
like any grounding techniques or specific things that you were
like bringing in with you and your their meditations?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, I meditate. I meditate.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
I was journaling every day.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I did not do that last time, just to you know,
you can get lost track of time. Day's London to
each other and just like keeping every day like like
I had to like go back and read where my
thoughts are at. I checked in with the therapists like
almost every three days while on set, just to ground myself,
talk about how I'm feeling, make sure that everything seems
(24:15):
like okay, some eft's happening online, your spots. Whenever you're
feeling stressed, like you hit that and it's like supposed
to colm down your nervous system.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Beta blockers are really great.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
It was taking that a few times just like you know,
I don't know, I just but also like not taking
it too seriously, like just having fun and like understanding
that this is it's I took it so seriously before.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
And I think just like the new mindset can be
new wonders for what can happen.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Were you open to an engagement this time or were
you more just like I'm gonna take my time see
where this goes, and I kind of want to just
like leave in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
I did not go in saying I was going to
leave engage that is it. I didn't. I definitely was
not going in and say I was going to be
engaged to any capacity.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Well, I will say like my my second time around,
I was more prepared to have the core the right
conversations with Serena as far as just like how how
actually do we see this working after this showing and
did you did you do that? Like are were you
(25:30):
open to are you open to moving?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
If that's the case, If am I open to one?
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Like if you meet someone, are you open to potentially moving?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Like oh yeah, I was asking I knew way more
about or I yeah, I went in with a lot
more awareness on like what I needed to ask and
things I needed to like assess, and how I needed
to see how people handled situations than I did in
the past, just from but you can only really do
that if you've already lived in and so that's pretty
(26:00):
much how I approached it. So it wasn't just like
blindly like oh, you're cute and like you're funny, and
like this is gonna be great, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Like No, it was very very like thought out without
giving too much away obviously, how do you feel like
this experience on Bachelom Paradise for you was different from
your first experience?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I mean was a laundry list.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
There's like oh, from the environment, from the people, from
like how I showed up, from just every like the
the beach, the creative, like the it was just fun
like it was I had a lot of good I
had a really good time. I would say, we don't
want to give everything away. It definitely came still with
ups and downs, like it's still you know, an environment
(26:48):
where you're putting yourself out there to potentially be heard,
and like you don't know how it's gonna end. And
but that's with everything, that's with life, So I just
approached it from that perspective, but it was just so
much more like and I.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Who knows, So I'm delusional, Like I think I said that.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
You're freaking out already. You're freaking out already.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Like you know what, I'm freaking out because I'm saying
it's positive, and like I did that before and it
was not so scared enough.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
I get that, but you know, I want it to
air and then be like, wait, this is what went down,
this is how it came across.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
You know, wh I rather live life the rose colored glasses.
I don't care. I love being delusional. It's not me
be very far.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
So I think I think it's gonna go I mean,
if I were to guess, I think it's gonna go
good for you. But like then again, like I've been wrong,
so I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
If it all comes down to like how it's I mean,
I think I also like was not I remember so
much of it, maybe just because I was journaling as
often as I was, but like before I remember like
how it wasn't just like Boston the sauce I think I.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Was or you like I know what's going on present?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
How was having the Golden Sale there?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:04):
It was so fun.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
It was a great, great choice, Like good job Produceriously,
it was incredible.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
They were they just like when I guess when you're
at that age, you just don't care. So it was
like they're not.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Worried about Instagram followers or how they're like gonna look
for their brand. Like they're just actually like so authentic
and who they are. And they gave us a lot
of insight to just like life, and I got to
learn about so many of their different stories and things
that they've experienced, and I feel like that put into
perspective like where we're all at now and kind of
just take things a little less like intensely.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
But they were just so fun. They were hilarious. They
did not care. They had a great time. They made
us loose enough.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Actually, how was how was having Hannah Brown there?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
It was really fun too. She was like kind of
like a girly.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
She was there mostly during Rose ceremony nights and stuff
and just kind of someone to like tell the tea
too and see how she experienced stuff. It was also
for me like she's lived a lot of she's done
the show in different ways and been part of it,
so I felt like I could connect with her in
that way and understand like if I'm having a if
I'm on the verge of having a cash out, like
(29:11):
you know, it's this valid to be brought back down
to earth and she was there for that.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
If after watching this current season, what do you want
the viewers to learn about who you are as a person?
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Oh, I don't know. That's scary. I guess just like.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
That I am human, Like we're just I'm a very
like normal girl living a very normal life. And you
can also see where like whatever happens in your life
like stages and seasons does not have to define you
in any carasting like you have that autonomy to change
how you go through life. And I think that that's
(29:58):
going to be shown. And that's also just something I've
kind of done my entire life. So maybe just that
and like that I'm just like a normal girly and
like live more delusional. It's a lot easier that way.
This is true yourself, like like just I'm I'm accidentally
authentic to a bon't and nobody should ever be ashamed
(30:19):
of that, like own it.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
If you could tease this upcoming season of Paradise.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
In a few words, Oh gosh, what would you do?
Speaker 2 (30:28):
What would you say?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Oh? It is different, fun and more aesthetically pleasing. I
would say, for sure, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
It looks that way.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yew.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
The teasers are looking really good.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
It's much more aesthetically even.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Like the headshot, everything is elevated and I'm.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Actually not for that part.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Joe's jealous.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
I knew there was going to be someone that like
wanted us to still look like like a little wrap
on the beach, like they're like fise like of.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Them like dying and like, no, no, this was really good.
Never to go back. No, I'm excited to see it.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, Kat, we are really looking forward to watching you
on this upcoming season of Paradise. We wish you the best.
I'm sure we'll hear from you again. Thank you so
much for hopping on. Thank you fun, and to all
our listeners, thank you for tuning in the bet You're
Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
We have new exclusive interviews coming every single week as
we tea up for the new season of Bachelor Paradise
airing very soon. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Bye
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