December 11, 2025 • 33 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are having a vulnerable, honest conversation about aging. With decades of lived experience between them, they’re sharing what they’ve learned and everything they wish they’d known sooner. When you become the maker of your family’s traditions, how do you shift from collecting to curating? What does legacy really mean? What is the key to anti-aging? And how do you navigate the moments when your body and mind start to change? It’s a big, sometimes intimidating topic — and Kathy and Susan are here to walk you through it with heart, humor, and hard-earned wisdom. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so
much for joining us today. We are so excited to
be back. How are you doing today, Susan.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm doing great, busy bee. You know, I was out
blowing leaves again today, there's some left.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Christmas is almost here, Susan. You can't be still doing laves.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I didn't want stragglers around because then in the spring
I get you know.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Can I just tell you the colors are just starting here?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Really?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, in Austin we don't get much color. But really,
I'll send you a picture. It's really pretty. But I've
been trying to get ready for I can't believe Christmas
is a week away.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I can't believe how fast the years are going. Okay,
I know the years. My ex husband turned sixty nine
this month. That means I'm right after them in March.
So I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You know what says in sixty nine turns the seventy
so quick. But just remember what we always say, aging
is just the number. Your birthday is just the number.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's a birthday full of surprises, all right. So should
we get into today? We're actually Kathy all about aging today.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I know what a great segue.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Let's dive in. Okay, the first one is processing change,
what's important at your age? I think change is the
hardest part. The mirror doesn't lie.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, you're talking about physical changes? Yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I remember I called you that day and said, what
when did this happen? My back looked like a sharp pei.
I was trying to want to dress in the back.
I go, I have a sharp pet. Well when did
that happen?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So is are you saying aging is the most important thing,
your physical aging at your age?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, that's what we're talking about aging.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, Air's a lot more to aging.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Than yes, yes, yes, true, But that's the first thing
that came to mind. How I feel and how I look,
and how what I can still do and what I
struggle to do.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So okay, so I'm I'm with you on some of that.
I mean, I look in the mirror every day, and
you know, after seventy I wake up and say, oh,
that didn't hurt yesterday. You know, lotion, motion is lotion.
So I keep moving. But you know what I'm especially
at holiday time, I've been thinking and I don't mean
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to sound more because you know me, I'm not. I'm
so happy that I'm alive and I enjoy every day. However,
I've been thinking about as I was putting out things
for the holidays, which things, what kind of things I
want to pass along? And that's changed for me because
when you're younger, or at least when I was younger,
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I spent many years collecting, many years building china, silver,
amassing bed linens, you know, all the furniture, all the stuff.
It comes down to stuff that we amass and lately
and it's sort of hyper noticeable now because of the holidays.
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You know, what do I want my legacy to be?
What do I want my kids to remember? What things,
what holiday traditions, What things in my life are important
for me to pass along. And just the other day
I was going through some things because Kyle and Candy
are taking a piece of furniture that I have, because
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you know, I don't need all this furniture. And this
is part of aging. You start realizing what's really important
in life. And so in this, in this secretary that
I'm giving them, there's my grandfather, taught chaucer at Smith College,
who is very well known in his time, and I
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have all this memorabilia that I had to take out
of this desk. And so my grandfather's textbook on Jeffrey
Chaucer that was his specialty teaching Chaucer, and his book
with all his annotations are in there. My husband's mug
from the ship he served on in the Navy, the
USS Canopus, all these things that had so much meaning
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that if I were to die tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Your kids would appreciate them.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's what is part is what I'm realizing is aging now. Well,
part of what I'm beginning to think that I never
thought before is part of aging, is imparting to my
children the important things that were in my life and
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my grandparents' life, because otherwise, you know, if I kick
the bucket tomorrow, my kids would not know. These are
my grandfather, who was a famous man in his time.
I have his Shakespeare books with his annotations, his Chaucer book,
like all these things that I.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Think might have a great interest to you. Is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well, and it may be to my children because it
represents family, it represents the passage of time.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So do you want to tell them about it? Do
you want to?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
There's no question, I absolutely I'm sharing with my kids,
the Christmas ornaments where they came from, which.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Ones had been a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And I'm realizing that those things that are that's a
form of change. Yes, we physically change, but part of
the change is I won't be here forever. And I said,
it's not morbid, but I want my kids to have
an understanding of the history of our lives, the traditions,
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and this time of year, I'm feeling it quite strongly.
Oh what about give.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It and relationships? Let's talk about that. Friendships that have
changed that I go over in my mind. Wow, I
haven't seen so and so and it maybe it was
my choice. But friends that we're still friends, but we
don't hang out or call each other anymore. And they
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go back from grade school. You know, I just missed
two reunions this fall, and I was so bummed about it,
and I had weddings on both days. However, why didn't
everybody get together and see how things change?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, so there's two things. I'm hearing that friendships change,
but also the composition of you will of the friendship's change.
But I'm also hearing I think that volumes of friends
aren't as important. They aren't to me quality friends.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Are employed to a billion people, right, so do we.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Because we've lived long lives, so we have lots of
people that are come in to our lives. You know
that old expression to be.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Honest with you, Kathy, the way I think changed. Tell
me I used to think a certain way, and I'm
still pretty carefree. That's that's who I am. And I'm
a dreamer and I think all positivity. However, some things
I would think more about that aren't as important.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Are you talking about with your friends or yourself?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
With life? With everything?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, well I just I agree with that. I think
that's aging. We become easier, we're not so rigid and
most things except for you cleaning your house. But and
that's never you'll be You'll be from the casket.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
My personality will never that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But I know, well you can. I've noticed that my friendships,
I now choose who I want to spend time with.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well that was my point. Yes, I chose not to
be my negative people. And it took a long time.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Not even that it's just I there's friend there's negative.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
They steal your energy, Like I can't be around people
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I don't disagree with that, But I'm talking about friends
that I genuinely like. I'm putting the positives bin on this,
which is I love these people. We had great times together.
But now if I talk to them once a year,
like this year, I'm setting out Christmas cards for the
first time in probably ten years, they'll get a Christmas card.
But I don't feel the need to engage with every
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friend on a regular basis. I have certain friends you
and Nancy, which is so interesting because you are two
of my newest friends. But I care so deep well
that you are. We lived a lot of life before
we met each other, but I care deeply about both
of you, and we all know secrets and deep thoughts
about each other. And those are friendships I nurture because
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I want them in my life. Now, I'm not as
interested in having volumes of friends as I am in
having deep relationships with fewer people.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Absolutely, I mean, I don't think I was ever interested
in having volumes of friends, because you can only I'm
not an octopus. I can't do it all, you.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Know, And then you friends at different level suitsan I'm well,
no granted you, and so that circle for me has
become smaller, and I have friends I golf with. I
have friends that I play, but I don't see them
all the time. I don't call them like I check
in with you. And some of my friends here.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
A lot of my friends live out of state. Now,
you know, you have to plan a visit, Like I
want to go see Lori. She has a beach house here.
She's here in the summer and I see her often.
But then now she's in Charlestown on the river. We
got a boat. When are you coming?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You're bringing me when you do, go, Laurie, I'm coming
with her. Just f YI. You said you can't change
your personality. I disagree with that. Well, I can tell
you I used to be incredibly rigid. I I really was.
(10:17):
Things had to be done a certain way. I've said
this too many times. When mister Wright comes into my life,
he is going to get the best version of me. Why,
because I've learned. I've learned my personality is not I
don't have to have things a certain way. My mindset
is much more fluid. Okay, that's not going to work.
I might be disappointed. I'm over it. Let's move on
(10:38):
to the next thing. Where when I was younger, you know,
the old expression do you want to be right or
do you want to be happy? I wanted to be
right now I want to be happy. So oh, well,
that's not going to work. We'll do it.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It doesn't have anything to do with like controlling the situation.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It has to do with aging. I realize what's important
for me. It's just not important. It's so much of
what as a younger person I obsessed about and dwelled on.
You know what, It's just not that important. And I
wish you know, I've always said to you, I wish
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that youth is wasted on the young if.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
If I knew then what I know.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Now, And so I think. I think that's one of
the joys of getting older. I think when I look
back at my grandparents, for example, we used to do
fun things like cook and bake and work in her garden.
She taught me. My grandmother taught me all about daffodils.
My other grandmother taught me how to crochet and knit.
I was like, now, I realized that, you know, the
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quality time spent with people.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Is farm And how about how things changed too, like
being on my nana's apron string, making homemade spaghettis, and
the dough and the flower and all that. You wouldn't
find somebody doing that today unless you're in Italy. Of course,
you know, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
My grandmother I put aprons on her we bake. My
point is, I think as we get older, we learn
that the relationships with our family, our children, are good friends.
That's what sustains us not wasting time on superfluous things
that just don't matter, at least for me. That's what
I have found.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And watching the young people now and what they do
or don't do, and compared to what we did and
didn't do well.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But the world's are different places. And the technology we've
talked about this AI technology, cell phones, everything is at
your fingertips. You don't have to work as hard. And
in fact, I think as I age, I see interpersonal
relationships not as strong because people are online. It's a text,
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it's not an in person visit.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Not real life.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's well it's real life, well it is.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
But getting out in the world, like I noticed, people
can't hold great conversations because they're tied up with their
phones or they especially young people, they don't know how
to have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But you know, what you know what you can.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Text one or email something.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
This is like people, you realize we're getting to the
age now, Susan, where when people were like why would
I buy that car? You know with the XEL, Why
would I do that? I got a horse and buggy
and it gets me there just fine. It's called progress.
It's called evolution, and jump on the car. Okay, what
about what about I'm a few years older than you
(13:31):
and we touched on this. What about changes to your body?
And I'm not talking about the saggy sharpei back necessari
why not?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's the part I've never had that my life.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Well, I'm talking like, do you wake up with eggs
and pains in your back? Your knees? I am, and
my fingers. I used to love, Susan. I used to
love I have a jewelry box full of rings. As
everyone knows, I do love myself some jewelry here. But
I used to love rings and I wore them all
the time. I still have rings, silver rings that I
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were in high school. But now my hands aren't as
pretty as they used to be because they are arthritic.
But you know what, it's all about the way you
choose to look at it. I am grateful these hands work.
I can needle point, I can play sports. They're not
pretty to look at. And that's one of another benefit
of aging.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You can't button something, you can't do those little tasks
that open the jewelry. I'm always doing.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That, but I remember, yes, all those are true.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You can you have that fixed. You can't have it fixed.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
No, I mean you can have artificial joints put in.
But you know, I try to hide my hands now
because I don't think my hands and the way they
look reflect my energy, my personality.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And well, it's like, well, one good thing, I will say.
I love having my senior discount.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh, of course, we're all going to the movies, Lottie,
and we're going and we're gotting cheap.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I want to see Wicket the second half and lot
of goes. I got our.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Senior discal Have you seen the new movie I Hate You?
I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All right, it's going to be next.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Saturday, next time. Right. This is a serious one though. Yeah,
we all talk, not just you and me. I think
most people our age talk about being seen, being visible.
When did you first notice the world started treating you differently?
Due to your age.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I haven't. I think somebody people might think to be
more polite, because if not, I'll holler at them. I
still do that, like at the wah wah when you
don't hold the door open for an elderly person, not me,
the older person that was coming in, and I'm like,
that's rude. But I don't feel like I'm being treated
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different because I guess of my personality. I'm alive, I'm outspoken.
You know, I didn't get I.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Think I think it's a continuum. I think it's a spectrum.
I think you're right. You and I are out there.
We have fun, we say our mind, we were energetic,
we get out and do physical things. So I think
it's a little bit. Uh, it's gonna happen a little
later for us. But I've noticed, particularly, I would say
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in the dating world, I'm a little bit more invisible
now than I was a dating world. Well, that's as
we age. That's one of the things.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's the number. Once again, that number when you're like,
for instance, on a dating app, if you put that
number down, nobody's gonna look for the top number. They're
gonna look for the bottom number. Well, that's right, But
if they knew us, it would be a totally different right.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
But I do think I do feel I know Kathy
and invisible is an oxymoron. I just you know that's
not happening. But I do feel that I have to
work harder. Let me say this, I have to work
harder to be seen in a general way in the
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dating world professionally. You know, I'm retired.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Harder, How like, what could you possibly do? You mean,
not dating app or in life both?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Although I'm not on dating apps right now, how.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Would you work harder in walking around life?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh? I can't. I want to bookmark dating apps because
I'm coming right back to that to put your finger
on your nose. In life, I'm saying as I as
I've aged, i have to work a little bit harder.
I'm going to go out and kayak. I'm those kinds
of things and physical changes to be seen. It's a
little more difficult. I'm not going to go hang out
at a bar like I would have when well, that's aging.
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If I were younger, it would feel more appropriate more.
I feel that the window closes a little bit about
things that you can reasonably do.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And for instance, I like to dance, as you know,
and for me to go dancing, it's impossible. There's nothing
for people I look like, you know, right, an old
head coming into it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, that's that's what I'm saying. As we age, our
opportunities look a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Some that part well, a nightclub for seniors.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You know, Oh god, that sounds horrible.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Dance club.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, I always wanted to do that. We're going to
and we're going, okay, But I want to get into
this because you and I on Golden Bachelor, one me
on Paradise. Many of the young ones have coupled up.
That's clear. They found people, they're there together. But I
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feel I don't feel it's clear and obvious that the
golden men have had if we're just talking to dating fo,
they've had so many more. And why is that? I'm
going to go with the simplest reason is old women
get into men's dms because women are younger. Men go
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after younger women. But I feel like men as they
don't know, they don't and they don't so in dating
I think, plus there's more single women after a certain age,
so you know, the odds are against us. But I
think men work longer you see men. How many of
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the women were retired in our season and how many
of the men were retired. Of course they were younger,
but a lot of those men you.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Can't even count because they're younger.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, but they're in.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
My fifties, late fifties, early sixties. Yeah, everybody's still career.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So do you think other work? Do you think other
than dating because of the ease of technology of women
sliding into men's dms. Other than that, do you think
that golden men are treated differently than golden women?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
M as far as dating or as far as just
in general, golden men are treated different.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Are looked at differently? Are treated Are they treated differently?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It depends on how they're carrying themselves.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And that is the point I think that I think I.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Can be all really quick and put the moo moo
on and lay on the couch in the afternoon and
taking nap and cook and have the kids over once
in a while, never go out and enjoy life. You
have to push yourself. You gotta get it well.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And so I don't know. I'm going to take the
I'm going to take the old Susan approach and say
both because I think golden men that let themselves go
you know me, I call them. They used to guys.
They used to play tennis, they used to swim, they
used to bicycles, and now they sit on the sofa
drinking beer. But women do it too.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
A lot of things that I used to be able
to do that I can't. I don't feel safe. Like
downhill skiing. I'll never get on skis again. Oh I
will bro my bones break too bad?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Well can we do? Because wait?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Can we kept up with it?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Can we? No? I have not ski in three years.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Here's the three years. We're talking three years?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, well, I thought, here's the difference. Where before I
would go down double black diamonds. I never did moguls
and go down easy black.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Is a double black diamond mogul No, no, no, no diamond.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They're on blues too. But I'm saying to you, I
that is a choice, right, I'm not stupid. I'll go
out and ski, but I'll stick to blues and maybe
some double blues in you know, advanced intermediate. But that's
my point is get aging is not just a figment
of our imaginations. There are physical changes, there are mental changes,
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like I can't remember I can't remember yesterday's news, but
I think the important thing is and I think you
and I do such a good job of working to
be the best version of ourselves at the stage of
life we're in, and I wish that more people would
work hard to be the best version of themselves aims than.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Of letting themselves go and feeling depressed or invisible. You
know that word that came out.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Right, And that's where I was going. I think sometimes
we are our own worst enemies. We let ourselves go
and then on ourselves and we wonder why we're invisible. Well,
you're invisible because you've given up on yourself. And I
really wish that people would invest as we age. You
don't have to invest in your children as much, you
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don't have to invest in a career, but we should
be investing in ourselves.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But it's hard sometimes, especially when you don't have a
lot of friends or people to go do something with
to encourage you, whether it's go to the gym or
that I just found out there was a You go
and you pay seventy five dollars and you'll have a
cheeseboard or whatever, and you pick out your grapes and
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they will make the wine for you. Go back, I
think a year later or whatever it is, to pick
up your bottle of wine. But it was something that
I would enjoy. You're tasting wine, you're tasting grapes, you're
learning about it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know what you're saying, Susan, you're saying I was
just going to say. You're saying right there, never stop learning,
never stop enjoying life. And I think that's what aging.
That's why you and I are holding the banner for
changing the definition of aging, because we can't stop.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Packy's getting somebody to go do it with you. Well,
people were not going to go do that on their own.
You know what I'm saying, It would be more fun
to have a girlfriend with you.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And I think as we age sometimes, you know, I've noticed,
you know, most of my friends are a lot younger
than I am, because the people that are my age
are used to people. But I think that engaging and
doing these part of some and trying new things. I
think sometimes we are our own worst enemies because we say, oh,
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I know. My sister will say occasionally I'm old, and
I jump down her throat every time she says, wait.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
A minute, Kathy. Is funny you're saying that because when
you came back this year, you said, wow, I saw
so many changes in my sister. I did just this year.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
It was And you know what, she's eleven months older
than I am, and I see her. She gets angry
when I say it, but I you know, she's happy
and good for her. Everyone else to do it makes
them happy. But I think I guess what I'm saying
is you can't have it both ways. You can't say
aging sucks if you allow yourself to age. There's enough
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things we can't control, right, we can't control our boots,
hang into our knees unless you have, you know, a breastleft.
We can't we can do physically, we can change ourselves.
We can't help it. If I can't help the arthritis, right,
I can't help it, That's what it is. But I
can sure as heck, make sure I'm getting out being
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as active and meeting new people and doing things.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And that's what keells you. Young. Other people don't have that.
They never did that, that wasn't their thing. So for
you to tell them to do that and that keeps
them better, healthier active, They're not active people do you
know what I'm saying, So they're never going to grasp
that at this point.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I disagree. I think we always have personal choice. I
think you know, people were talking. A friend of mine
was talking the other day about, you know, it's coming
to the end of the year, and here we go
with New York resolutions, which I never make because and
she was saying, so many people say at this time
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of the.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Year, I'm going to get it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I'm gonna go to the gym in the new year.
I'm gonna eat this pound of cookies and fudge now,
but I'm gonna die. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you know what,
everyone can change, including you and me. By the way,
we can make a decision right now to change, to
have a more positive outlook, to take up a new hobby,
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to get out.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And meet people, like to play more golf.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, well you and I need to move closer together,
so because you and I are about the same level
of golf. But do you know what I'm saying, it's
up to us. So I'm beginning to bristle. I guess
is where I'm going with this At people saying aging sucks.
Aging sucks if you let it suck. If you let
it take you down like anything else it will.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I'm not letting it take me down. You still think
it sucks. It sucks. I forget things. I'm more forgetful.
I'm not as as quick as I used to be.
I'm a big time multitest.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Look at the yes, but look at the knowledge we have.
Look at the things we don't have to worry about anymore.
I mean raising children. We don't have to worry about retirement.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
We still worry about them, though.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
No, but they're not our responsibility. We talked about that earlier.
We don't have to worry if we're going to have
a roof over our head next year. We don't have
to worry if we're going to get fired from our jobs.
We have the grace of us well.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
That huge.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So I guess what I'm saying is aging ain't all bad.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It ain't that great either.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Listen to you miss negativity and I'm not you know me,
I'm miss positivity.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
But aging, I'm fighting it every step of the way.
I'm not throwing in the towel by any sort. I'm
not fun. It takes a little bit of fun.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Out well, But you know what, life isn't all about
fun either.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I don't swim in that ocean toil. The lifeguard would blow.
Now I think there's sharks out there. I still go
out with life.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I can't believe you just.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Said aren't as as much.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Okay, but real quickly, wait a second, real quickly, that's
so funny you said that. I was sinking the other
night walking down the street going into New York City,
walking when I was younger. Whatever. Now it's like when
I go to the grocery store. You know, I walk with,
I walk with and I'm powerful, don't you know, Like
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I worry a little bit more about those things. Yeah,
I might fall or somebody might come, and.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know, I don't think I could run again. Like
I was like so bad there for a while, like,
oh my god if I had to run. And now
you know, I moved myself around a little bit. I
started exercising a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah. Well, by the way says in the New Year
your news resolution that starts today before the new year,
get moving.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Stop. But that's not exercise.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
You're right weight.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Bearing And for me, Kathy, and You'll probably say that's
an excuse, and everybody listening, do you make excuses like
I do because I can't find the time my schedule
every day and people have said to me quite a
few actually, you know now that you don't have as
(29:23):
much going on, you're not in the salon full time, Like,
what do you do with yourself every day? Crazy?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Big? Can I tell you? I'm going to tell the
world what Susan does. First of all, she blows leaves
every day of the year. That's number one. Number two,
she's cleaning the floor that she cleaned ten minutes ago.
And the third thing she does that irritates the tar
out of me. What when we're talking on the phone,
Susan is shopping on the internet. I can hear the
click of her fingers and I.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Know looking for Christmas presents right now?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
No, no, no, yeah, that's excuse said something.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I want to change. Stop overspending for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Cut before we talk about that for a minute. How
many people out there going to freaking debt because of
how I used to be, Like I was the mom
that would wrap like if I bought the boys a sweatsuit,
well the top would go in one box in the
bottom and the other they would have piles to the sky.
So it looked like a whole lot. And that never
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left me. Now I started with my grandchildren. I'm like, whoa,
things are expenses.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I'm going to chalk this up to aging, and you're
gonna I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I've
realized all that stuff is not important. I mean, I
bought my grandchildren gifts and I asked their parents, you know,
what they would like to have. But I'm much more
about experiences now. I am much more about spend a. Oh.
(30:49):
I don't think she knows, but I'm taking with my
daughter in law my granddaughter. It made me cry to
the Nutcracker because I did that with my grandmother and
I took my children, and now I'm getting to take
my granddaughter.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Is that going to be one of her Christmas?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Is that going to be one of her Christmas presents?
I don't care if I remember.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I know, Bella, I'm taking to Paris this year, as
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
So that's you know what, that's Christmas?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Prestager, is there trendy Mimi? Can I get this? Can
I mostly close clone?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
A little necklace?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I know they got parents for that. I'm saying, as
I age, this whole thing has been about aging. My
thing is not buying stuff for my time.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
It's time.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It is quality time with my grandchildren.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
A memory, making a memory right, so when you're gone,
they'll think back and go, I remember when we did.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
This, right, And and that's part of aging too. That's
another benefit you again for.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Me inside of Agent today we did the band Side's
another podcast. Maybe we'll touch.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
The good side, getting out and getting physical activity, trying
a new hobbies.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Like people when Texas, you don't understand, you're gonna walk today,
I gotta walk today, don't like. Yeah, she's always impressed,
except she had me talking going uphill on the way home.
You guys, try to talk and you know miss questionnaire
over here, that's all she does this question. So you
you're constantly answering a question. So you're talking. I couldn't breathe.
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And you guys, you want to go further.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Do you know why I ask questions because if you're asked,
your you're curious, you're learning, and that's how you stem
the aging process. And impressed.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Cut me a break one day, I just don't ask
any questions. To shoot the ship. Oh my goodness, we
can just go on forever.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
But we can't because coming I have to go bake.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
She's gonna bake again. You better bring me that egg nog.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
All right? But that said, that does it for today's episode.
I hope you guys enjoyed it and send us a note,
send us a topic, and trust me, we'll cover it.
That's the end of today's Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Thank you all for joining us, and be sure to
follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes coming
out every week that you don't want to miss. We're
going to do more on aging because I, for one,
plan to never age.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
She's never going to live to one hundred. I'll be
long going good. I go first, I want to cry.
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Speaker 1 (33:37):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app,
or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Until next time,
have a great week.
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks so
much for joining us today. We are so excited to
be back. How are you doing today, Susan.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm doing great, busy bee. You know, I was out
blowing leaves again today, there's some left.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Christmas is almost here, Susan. You can't be still doing laves.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I didn't want stragglers around because then in the spring
I get you know.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Can I just tell you the colors are just starting here?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Really?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, in Austin we don't get much color. But really,
I'll send you a picture. It's really pretty. But I've
been trying to get ready for I can't believe Christmas
is a week away.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I can't believe how fast the years are going. Okay,
I know the years. My ex husband turned sixty nine
this month. That means I'm right after them in March.
So I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
You know what says in sixty nine turns the seventy
so quick. But just remember what we always say, aging
is just the number. Your birthday is just the number.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
It's a birthday full of surprises, all right. So should
we get into today? We're actually Kathy all about aging today.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I know what a great segue.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Let's dive in. Okay, the first one is processing change,
what's important at your age? I think change is the
hardest part. The mirror doesn't lie.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Well, you're talking about physical changes? Yes, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
I remember I called you that day and said, what
when did this happen? My back looked like a sharp pei.
I was trying to want to dress in the back.
I go, I have a sharp pet. Well when did
that happen?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
So is are you saying aging is the most important thing,
your physical aging at your age?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, that's what we're talking about aging.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, Air's a lot more to aging.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Than yes, yes, yes, true, But that's the first thing
that came to mind. How I feel and how I look,
and how what I can still do and what I
struggle to do.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So okay, so I'm I'm with you on some of that.
I mean, I look in the mirror every day, and
you know, after seventy I wake up and say, oh,
that didn't hurt yesterday. You know, lotion, motion is lotion.
So I keep moving. But you know what I'm especially
at holiday time, I've been thinking and I don't mean
(02:34):
to sound more because you know me, I'm not. I'm
so happy that I'm alive and I enjoy every day. However,
I've been thinking about as I was putting out things
for the holidays, which things, what kind of things I
want to pass along? And that's changed for me because
when you're younger, or at least when I was younger,
(02:54):
I spent many years collecting, many years building china, silver,
amassing bed linens, you know, all the furniture, all the stuff.
It comes down to stuff that we amass and lately
and it's sort of hyper noticeable now because of the holidays.
(03:15):
You know, what do I want my legacy to be?
What do I want my kids to remember? What things,
what holiday traditions, What things in my life are important
for me to pass along. And just the other day
I was going through some things because Kyle and Candy
are taking a piece of furniture that I have, because
(03:38):
you know, I don't need all this furniture. And this
is part of aging. You start realizing what's really important
in life. And so in this, in this secretary that
I'm giving them, there's my grandfather, taught chaucer at Smith College,
who is very well known in his time, and I
(03:59):
have all this memorabilia that I had to take out
of this desk. And so my grandfather's textbook on Jeffrey
Chaucer that was his specialty teaching Chaucer, and his book
with all his annotations are in there. My husband's mug
from the ship he served on in the Navy, the
USS Canopus, all these things that had so much meaning
(04:22):
that if I were to die tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Your kids would appreciate them.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
That's what is part is what I'm realizing is aging now. Well,
part of what I'm beginning to think that I never
thought before is part of aging, is imparting to my
children the important things that were in my life and
(04:47):
my grandparents' life, because otherwise, you know, if I kick
the bucket tomorrow, my kids would not know. These are
my grandfather, who was a famous man in his time.
I have his Shakespeare books with his annotations, his Chaucer book,
like all these things that I.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Think might have a great interest to you. Is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Well, and it may be to my children because it
represents family, it represents the passage of time.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So do you want to tell them about it? Do
you want to?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
There's no question, I absolutely I'm sharing with my kids,
the Christmas ornaments where they came from, which.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Ones had been a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And I'm realizing that those things that are that's a
form of change. Yes, we physically change, but part of
the change is I won't be here forever. And I said,
it's not morbid, but I want my kids to have
an understanding of the history of our lives, the traditions,
(05:50):
and this time of year, I'm feeling it quite strongly.
Oh what about give.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
It and relationships? Let's talk about that. Friendships that have
changed that I go over in my mind. Wow, I
haven't seen so and so and it maybe it was
my choice. But friends that we're still friends, but we
don't hang out or call each other anymore. And they
(06:15):
go back from grade school. You know, I just missed
two reunions this fall, and I was so bummed about it,
and I had weddings on both days. However, why didn't
everybody get together and see how things change?
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Well, so there's two things. I'm hearing that friendships change,
but also the composition of you will of the friendship's change.
But I'm also hearing I think that volumes of friends
aren't as important. They aren't to me quality friends.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Are employed to a billion people, right, so do we.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Because we've lived long lives, so we have lots of
people that are come in to our lives. You know
that old expression to be.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Honest with you, Kathy, the way I think changed. Tell
me I used to think a certain way, and I'm
still pretty carefree. That's that's who I am. And I'm
a dreamer and I think all positivity. However, some things
I would think more about that aren't as important.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Are you talking about with your friends or yourself?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
With life? With everything?
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Yeah, well I just I agree with that. I think
that's aging. We become easier, we're not so rigid and
most things except for you cleaning your house. But and
that's never you'll be You'll be from the casket.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
My personality will never that.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
But I know, well you can. I've noticed that my friendships,
I now choose who I want to spend time with.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well that was my point. Yes, I chose not to
be my negative people. And it took a long time.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Not even that it's just I there's friend there's negative.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
They steal your energy, Like I can't be around people
like that.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
I don't disagree with that, But I'm talking about friends
that I genuinely like. I'm putting the positives bin on this,
which is I love these people. We had great times together.
But now if I talk to them once a year,
like this year, I'm setting out Christmas cards for the
first time in probably ten years, they'll get a Christmas card.
But I don't feel the need to engage with every
(08:34):
friend on a regular basis. I have certain friends you
and Nancy, which is so interesting because you are two
of my newest friends. But I care so deep well
that you are. We lived a lot of life before
we met each other, but I care deeply about both
of you, and we all know secrets and deep thoughts
about each other. And those are friendships I nurture because
(08:58):
I want them in my life. Now, I'm not as
interested in having volumes of friends as I am in
having deep relationships with fewer people.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Absolutely, I mean, I don't think I was ever interested
in having volumes of friends, because you can only I'm
not an octopus. I can't do it all, you.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Know, And then you friends at different level suitsan I'm well,
no granted you, and so that circle for me has
become smaller, and I have friends I golf with. I
have friends that I play, but I don't see them
all the time. I don't call them like I check
in with you. And some of my friends here.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
A lot of my friends live out of state. Now,
you know, you have to plan a visit, Like I
want to go see Lori. She has a beach house here.
She's here in the summer and I see her often.
But then now she's in Charlestown on the river. We
got a boat. When are you coming?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You're bringing me when you do, go, Laurie, I'm coming
with her. Just f YI. You said you can't change
your personality. I disagree with that. Well, I can tell
you I used to be incredibly rigid. I I really was.
(10:17):
Things had to be done a certain way. I've said
this too many times. When mister Wright comes into my life,
he is going to get the best version of me. Why,
because I've learned. I've learned my personality is not I
don't have to have things a certain way. My mindset
is much more fluid. Okay, that's not going to work.
I might be disappointed. I'm over it. Let's move on
(10:38):
to the next thing. Where when I was younger, you know,
the old expression do you want to be right or
do you want to be happy? I wanted to be
right now I want to be happy. So oh, well,
that's not going to work. We'll do it.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
It doesn't have anything to do with like controlling the situation.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It has to do with aging. I realize what's important
for me. It's just not important. It's so much of
what as a younger person I obsessed about and dwelled on.
You know what, It's just not that important. And I
wish you know, I've always said to you, I wish
(11:13):
that youth is wasted on the young if.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
If I knew then what I know.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Now, And so I think. I think that's one of
the joys of getting older. I think when I look
back at my grandparents, for example, we used to do
fun things like cook and bake and work in her garden.
She taught me. My grandmother taught me all about daffodils.
My other grandmother taught me how to crochet and knit.
I was like, now, I realized that, you know, the
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quality time spent with people.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Is farm And how about how things changed too, like
being on my nana's apron string, making homemade spaghettis, and
the dough and the flower and all that. You wouldn't
find somebody doing that today unless you're in Italy. Of course,
you know, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
My grandmother I put aprons on her we bake. My
point is, I think as we get older, we learn
that the relationships with our family, our children, are good friends.
That's what sustains us not wasting time on superfluous things
that just don't matter, at least for me. That's what
I have found.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
And watching the young people now and what they do
or don't do, and compared to what we did and
didn't do well.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But the world's are different places. And the technology we've
talked about this AI technology, cell phones, everything is at
your fingertips. You don't have to work as hard. And
in fact, I think as I age, I see interpersonal
relationships not as strong because people are online. It's a text,
(12:50):
it's not an in person visit.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Not real life.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
It's well it's real life, well it is.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
But getting out in the world, like I noticed, people
can't hold great conversations because they're tied up with their
phones or they especially young people, they don't know how
to have a conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But you know, what you know what you can.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Text one or email something.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
This is like people, you realize we're getting to the
age now, Susan, where when people were like why would
I buy that car? You know with the XEL, Why
would I do that? I got a horse and buggy
and it gets me there just fine. It's called progress.
It's called evolution, and jump on the car. Okay, what
about what about I'm a few years older than you
(13:31):
and we touched on this. What about changes to your body?
And I'm not talking about the saggy sharpei back necessari
why not?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's the part I've never had that my life.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Well, I'm talking like, do you wake up with eggs
and pains in your back? Your knees? I am, and
my fingers. I used to love, Susan. I used to
love I have a jewelry box full of rings. As
everyone knows, I do love myself some jewelry here. But
I used to love rings and I wore them all
the time. I still have rings, silver rings that I
(14:01):
were in high school. But now my hands aren't as
pretty as they used to be because they are arthritic.
But you know what, it's all about the way you
choose to look at it. I am grateful these hands work.
I can needle point, I can play sports. They're not
pretty to look at. And that's one of another benefit
of aging.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
You can't button something, you can't do those little tasks
that open the jewelry. I'm always doing.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That, but I remember, yes, all those are true.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
You can you have that fixed. You can't have it fixed.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
No, I mean you can have artificial joints put in.
But you know, I try to hide my hands now
because I don't think my hands and the way they
look reflect my energy, my personality.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
And well, it's like, well, one good thing, I will say.
I love having my senior discount.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh, of course, we're all going to the movies, Lottie,
and we're going and we're gotting cheap.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I want to see Wicket the second half and lot
of goes. I got our.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Senior discal Have you seen the new movie I Hate You?
I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
All right, it's going to be next.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Saturday, next time. Right. This is a serious one though. Yeah,
we all talk, not just you and me. I think
most people our age talk about being seen, being visible.
When did you first notice the world started treating you differently?
Due to your age.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
I haven't. I think somebody people might think to be
more polite, because if not, I'll holler at them. I
still do that, like at the wah wah when you
don't hold the door open for an elderly person, not me,
the older person that was coming in, and I'm like,
that's rude. But I don't feel like I'm being treated
(15:51):
different because I guess of my personality. I'm alive, I'm outspoken.
You know, I didn't get I.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Think I think it's a continuum. I think it's a spectrum.
I think you're right. You and I are out there.
We have fun, we say our mind, we were energetic,
we get out and do physical things. So I think
it's a little bit. Uh, it's gonna happen a little
later for us. But I've noticed, particularly, I would say
(16:21):
in the dating world, I'm a little bit more invisible
now than I was a dating world. Well, that's as
we age. That's one of the things.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
It's the number. Once again, that number when you're like,
for instance, on a dating app, if you put that
number down, nobody's gonna look for the top number. They're
gonna look for the bottom number. Well, that's right, But
if they knew us, it would be a totally different right.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
But I do think I do feel I know Kathy
and invisible is an oxymoron. I just you know that's
not happening. But I do feel that I have to
work harder. Let me say this, I have to work
harder to be seen in a general way in the
(17:08):
dating world professionally. You know, I'm retired.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Harder, How like, what could you possibly do? You mean,
not dating app or in life both?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Although I'm not on dating apps right now, how.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Would you work harder in walking around life?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Oh? I can't. I want to bookmark dating apps because
I'm coming right back to that to put your finger
on your nose. In life, I'm saying as I as
I've aged, i have to work a little bit harder.
I'm going to go out and kayak. I'm those kinds
of things and physical changes to be seen. It's a
little more difficult. I'm not going to go hang out
at a bar like I would have when well, that's aging.
(17:47):
If I were younger, it would feel more appropriate more.
I feel that the window closes a little bit about
things that you can reasonably do.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And for instance, I like to dance, as you know,
and for me to go dancing, it's impossible. There's nothing
for people I look like, you know, right, an old
head coming into it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well, that's that's what I'm saying. As we age, our
opportunities look a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Some that part well, a nightclub for seniors.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
You know, Oh god, that sounds horrible.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Dance club.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Yeah, I always wanted to do that. We're going to
and we're going, okay, But I want to get into
this because you and I on Golden Bachelor, one me
on Paradise. Many of the young ones have coupled up.
That's clear. They found people, they're there together. But I
(18:47):
feel I don't feel it's clear and obvious that the
golden men have had if we're just talking to dating fo,
they've had so many more. And why is that? I'm
going to go with the simplest reason is old women
get into men's dms because women are younger. Men go
(19:08):
after younger women. But I feel like men as they
don't know, they don't and they don't so in dating
I think, plus there's more single women after a certain age,
so you know, the odds are against us. But I
think men work longer you see men. How many of
(19:31):
the women were retired in our season and how many
of the men were retired. Of course they were younger,
but a lot of those men you.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Can't even count because they're younger.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Well, but they're in.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
My fifties, late fifties, early sixties. Yeah, everybody's still career.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So do you think other work? Do you think other
than dating because of the ease of technology of women
sliding into men's dms. Other than that, do you think
that golden men are treated differently than golden women?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
M as far as dating or as far as just
in general, golden men are treated different.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Are looked at differently? Are treated Are they treated differently?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It depends on how they're carrying themselves.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
And that is the point I think that I think I.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Can be all really quick and put the moo moo
on and lay on the couch in the afternoon and
taking nap and cook and have the kids over once
in a while, never go out and enjoy life. You
have to push yourself. You gotta get it well.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And so I don't know. I'm going to take the
I'm going to take the old Susan approach and say
both because I think golden men that let themselves go
you know me, I call them. They used to guys.
They used to play tennis, they used to swim, they
used to bicycles, and now they sit on the sofa
drinking beer. But women do it too.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
A lot of things that I used to be able
to do that I can't. I don't feel safe. Like
downhill skiing. I'll never get on skis again. Oh I
will bro my bones break too bad?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Well can we do? Because wait?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Can we kept up with it?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Can we? No? I have not ski in three years.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Here's the three years. We're talking three years?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
Yeah, well, I thought, here's the difference. Where before I
would go down double black diamonds. I never did moguls
and go down easy black.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Is a double black diamond mogul No, no, no, no diamond.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
They're on blues too. But I'm saying to you, I
that is a choice, right, I'm not stupid. I'll go
out and ski, but I'll stick to blues and maybe
some double blues in you know, advanced intermediate. But that's
my point is get aging is not just a figment
of our imaginations. There are physical changes, there are mental changes,
(22:05):
like I can't remember I can't remember yesterday's news, but
I think the important thing is and I think you
and I do such a good job of working to
be the best version of ourselves at the stage of
life we're in, and I wish that more people would
work hard to be the best version of themselves aims than.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Of letting themselves go and feeling depressed or invisible. You
know that word that came out.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Right, And that's where I was going. I think sometimes
we are our own worst enemies. We let ourselves go
and then on ourselves and we wonder why we're invisible. Well,
you're invisible because you've given up on yourself. And I
really wish that people would invest as we age. You
don't have to invest in your children as much, you
(22:54):
don't have to invest in a career, but we should
be investing in ourselves.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But it's hard sometimes, especially when you don't have a
lot of friends or people to go do something with
to encourage you, whether it's go to the gym or
that I just found out there was a You go
and you pay seventy five dollars and you'll have a
cheeseboard or whatever, and you pick out your grapes and
(23:19):
they will make the wine for you. Go back, I
think a year later or whatever it is, to pick
up your bottle of wine. But it was something that
I would enjoy. You're tasting wine, you're tasting grapes, you're
learning about it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know what you're saying, Susan, you're saying I was
just going to say. You're saying right there, never stop learning,
never stop enjoying life. And I think that's what aging.
That's why you and I are holding the banner for
changing the definition of aging, because we can't stop.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Packy's getting somebody to go do it with you. Well,
people were not going to go do that on their own.
You know what I'm saying, It would be more fun
to have a girlfriend with you.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
And I think as we age sometimes, you know, I've noticed,
you know, most of my friends are a lot younger
than I am, because the people that are my age
are used to people. But I think that engaging and
doing these part of some and trying new things. I
think sometimes we are our own worst enemies because we say, oh,
(24:24):
I know. My sister will say occasionally I'm old, and
I jump down her throat every time she says, wait.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
A minute, Kathy. Is funny you're saying that because when
you came back this year, you said, wow, I saw
so many changes in my sister. I did just this year.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
It was And you know what, she's eleven months older
than I am, and I see her. She gets angry
when I say it, but I you know, she's happy
and good for her. Everyone else to do it makes
them happy. But I think I guess what I'm saying
is you can't have it both ways. You can't say
aging sucks if you allow yourself to age. There's enough
(25:02):
things we can't control, right, we can't control our boots,
hang into our knees unless you have, you know, a breastleft.
We can't we can do physically, we can change ourselves.
We can't help it. If I can't help the arthritis, right,
I can't help it, That's what it is. But I
can sure as heck, make sure I'm getting out being
(25:22):
as active and meeting new people and doing things.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And that's what keells you. Young. Other people don't have that.
They never did that, that wasn't their thing. So for
you to tell them to do that and that keeps
them better, healthier active, They're not active people do you
know what I'm saying, So they're never going to grasp
that at this point.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I disagree. I think we always have personal choice. I
think you know, people were talking. A friend of mine
was talking the other day about, you know, it's coming
to the end of the year, and here we go
with New York resolutions, which I never make because and
she was saying, so many people say at this time
(26:06):
of the.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Year, I'm going to get it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I'm gonna go to the gym in the new year.
I'm gonna eat this pound of cookies and fudge now,
but I'm gonna die. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you know what,
everyone can change, including you and me. By the way,
we can make a decision right now to change, to
have a more positive outlook, to take up a new hobby,
(26:30):
to get out.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
And meet people, like to play more golf.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, well you and I need to move closer together,
so because you and I are about the same level
of golf. But do you know what I'm saying, it's
up to us. So I'm beginning to bristle. I guess
is where I'm going with this At people saying aging sucks.
Aging sucks if you let it suck. If you let
it take you down like anything else it will.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I'm not letting it take me down. You still think
it sucks. It sucks. I forget things. I'm more forgetful.
I'm not as as quick as I used to be.
I'm a big time multitest.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Look at the yes, but look at the knowledge we have.
Look at the things we don't have to worry about anymore.
I mean raising children. We don't have to worry about retirement.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
We still worry about them, though.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
No, but they're not our responsibility. We talked about that earlier.
We don't have to worry if we're going to have
a roof over our head next year. We don't have
to worry if we're going to get fired from our jobs.
We have the grace of us well.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
That huge.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
So I guess what I'm saying is aging ain't all bad.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It ain't that great either.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Listen to you miss negativity and I'm not you know me,
I'm miss positivity.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
But aging, I'm fighting it every step of the way.
I'm not throwing in the towel by any sort. I'm
not fun. It takes a little bit of fun.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Out well, But you know what, life isn't all about
fun either.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I don't swim in that ocean toil. The lifeguard would blow.
Now I think there's sharks out there. I still go
out with life.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I can't believe you just.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Said aren't as as much.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Okay, but real quickly, wait a second, real quickly, that's
so funny you said that. I was sinking the other
night walking down the street going into New York City,
walking when I was younger. Whatever. Now it's like when
I go to the grocery store. You know, I walk with,
I walk with and I'm powerful, don't you know, Like
(28:32):
I worry a little bit more about those things. Yeah,
I might fall or somebody might come, and.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know, I don't think I could run again. Like
I was like so bad there for a while, like,
oh my god if I had to run. And now
you know, I moved myself around a little bit. I
started exercising a little bit.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah. Well, by the way says in the New Year
your news resolution that starts today before the new year,
get moving.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Stop. But that's not exercise.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
You're right weight.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Bearing And for me, Kathy, and You'll probably say that's
an excuse, and everybody listening, do you make excuses like
I do because I can't find the time my schedule
every day and people have said to me quite a
few actually, you know now that you don't have as
(29:23):
much going on, you're not in the salon full time, Like,
what do you do with yourself every day? Crazy?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Big? Can I tell you? I'm going to tell the
world what Susan does. First of all, she blows leaves
every day of the year. That's number one. Number two,
she's cleaning the floor that she cleaned ten minutes ago.
And the third thing she does that irritates the tar
out of me. What when we're talking on the phone,
Susan is shopping on the internet. I can hear the
click of her fingers and I.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Know looking for Christmas presents right now?
Speaker 1 (29:53):
No, no, no, yeah, that's excuse said something.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I want to change. Stop overspending for Christmas.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Cut before we talk about that for a minute. How
many people out there going to freaking debt because of
how I used to be, Like I was the mom
that would wrap like if I bought the boys a sweatsuit,
well the top would go in one box in the
bottom and the other they would have piles to the sky.
So it looked like a whole lot. And that never
(30:22):
left me. Now I started with my grandchildren. I'm like, whoa,
things are expenses.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I'm going to chalk this up to aging, and you're
gonna I'm not trying to be a jerk here, I've
realized all that stuff is not important. I mean, I
bought my grandchildren gifts and I asked their parents, you know,
what they would like to have. But I'm much more
about experiences now. I am much more about spend a. Oh.
(30:49):
I don't think she knows, but I'm taking with my
daughter in law my granddaughter. It made me cry to
the Nutcracker because I did that with my grandmother and
I took my children, and now I'm getting to take
my granddaughter.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Is that going to be one of her Christmas?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Is that going to be one of her Christmas presents?
I don't care if I remember.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
I know, Bella, I'm taking to Paris this year, as
you know.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
So that's you know what, that's Christmas?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Prestager, is there trendy Mimi? Can I get this? Can
I mostly close clone?
Speaker 1 (31:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (31:23):
A little necklace?
Speaker 1 (31:24):
I know they got parents for that. I'm saying, as
I age, this whole thing has been about aging. My
thing is not buying stuff for my time.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
It's time.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It is quality time with my grandchildren.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
A memory, making a memory right, so when you're gone,
they'll think back and go, I remember when we did.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
This, right, And and that's part of aging too. That's
another benefit you again for.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Me inside of Agent today we did the band Side's
another podcast. Maybe we'll touch.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
The good side, getting out and getting physical activity, trying
a new hobbies.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Like people when Texas, you don't understand, you're gonna walk today,
I gotta walk today, don't like. Yeah, she's always impressed,
except she had me talking going uphill on the way home.
You guys, try to talk and you know miss questionnaire
over here, that's all she does this question. So you
you're constantly answering a question. So you're talking. I couldn't breathe.
(32:24):
And you guys, you want to go further.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Do you know why I ask questions because if you're asked,
your you're curious, you're learning, and that's how you stem
the aging process. And impressed.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Cut me a break one day, I just don't ask
any questions. To shoot the ship. Oh my goodness, we
can just go on forever.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
But we can't because coming I have to go bake.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
She's gonna bake again. You better bring me that egg nog.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
All right? But that said, that does it for today's episode.
I hope you guys enjoyed it and send us a note,
send us a topic, and trust me, we'll cover it.
That's the end of today's Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Thank you all for joining us, and be sure to
follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes coming
out every week that you don't want to miss. We're
going to do more on aging because I, for one,
plan to never age.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
She's never going to live to one hundred. I'll be
long going good. I go first, I want to cry.
Make sure he keeps submitting your questions or your comments
to us, and you know what to do. Go to
bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour, or you can hit
us up in social at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app,
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have a great week.
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