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September 22, 2025 36 mins

Today on “Golden Hour,” Kathy and Susan are reuniting with Leslie from Gerry’s season and “Bachelor in Paradise”! Leslie is here to chat all about her time in “Paradise,” her dating life, and more. She gets into her reconnected friendships with the women from her “Golden” season and reveals who she still keeps in touch with. She also tells us how dating has been since she’s returned from the beach. We then get some of her advice, starting with the question of the day: What advice do you have to people who fear getting older? Plus, Leslie asks Kathy and Susan every question she’s been dying to ask! Tune in now to hear all this and more and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode! 

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank y'all
for joining us. We're so excited to be back.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
And make sure to check out our latest episodes because
we've been having so much fun not only answering your
questions and chatting with your Bachelor Nation favorites, but given
our advice and our opinions on what you write in.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Okay, so today we have a very special guest. Please
welcome my very good friend, our very good friend from
our season of Golden Bachelor, Leslie. Hey, Leslie, how are
you doing? Welcome? Welcome?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
So day, long time, no see, I was IMO so
bad when you guys were there.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I most don't recognize you, Leslie. You're not an a
bathing suit to cover up.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Oh wait, wait wait, you want to know something that's
funny days that as soon as we're done here, my
pool is still open. It's ninety degrees in Minneapolis today,
and I do have my meetings.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Look, I have so much we want to dive into
today and the short amount of time, so let's get
things start. Okay, We're going to question you first of all,
what word would you use to describe your paradise experience?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
One word?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Oh, my god. Okay, that's three.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I know there's not one.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Fabulous that's I mean, it was it was. Okay, listen,
this is my question for it is very self serving.
How did it feel reuniting your friendships with the other
Golden Ladies?

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Hi, Well, it was really funny because when I got
in the van that first day and you guys are
waiting for me because I kind of goofed up on
the time whatever, but you were waiting for me, and
you're all waiting for me, and I got in it
and was like at first, I was, you know, we
hadn't seen each other so long, and and it was
just like it was like a beat where I had

(02:04):
to go, wait a minute, Okay, hi guys. Yeah, it
was really and then it was like we it was
like we had never been. Yeah, it was because we had,
you would have been right there.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
That's we and we Leslie, you and I shared a
room in Paradise, and I have to say, shared a
room with you was so much fun watching Leslie do
her makeup and her clothes. I mean, it was just fun.
It was fun to get you.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
We did have fun. I mean my whole bedtime thing,
Kathy's sitting there going, what's that? Now? What's that?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
What are you doing there? What you funny.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Routine of face stuff? And I did and you know,
you do the same thing different Okay, that's Leslie.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Is there anything you would have done differently in Paradise
you had the opportunity to do it again?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
You know, I don't think so, Susan. I mean I
kind of just you know, I'm that kind of girl
where I go along to get along. I mean, I
just was there. I felt really good about experiencing the
whole thing.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I felt like it was Gary. I thought you guys
were yeah, I mean beginning there.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, we you know again they didn't they didn't have
a lot of guys for us, So I mean, it
was it was kind of what it was. But you know,
I felt like we were just kind of I felt
like we were kind of like one big, happy family.
To be honest, I didn't feel that there was you know.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
But let me ask you something so and actually, to
be fair, you and I've sort of touched on this
before with Gary Turner. That is the Gary from our season.
You were obviously everyone knows you were very emotionally invested
and and had your heart broken at the time. But
now let's fast forward to Paradise. What you just said,

(04:03):
none of the guys you knew, we all knew we
were all friend The guys knew we were friends. The
gals knew we were friends friends friends friends. But in
a way, didn't it make you for me? I mean
Gary was never interested in me and I was never
interested in him, our Gary Turner? But didn't it make
it fun for you? Knowing when you came to Paradise
that we were just going to be there for the

(04:24):
young ins, we were going to have fun together. Wasn't
that sort of freeing?

Speaker 3 (04:28):
In a way, it was so freeing, I felt like
a big weight was off, you know. And I mean,
you know we had talked about it. If our guy
walked down the beach, yes, and we were to be like,
you know, this is our guy.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
I kept walking, Leslie, We kept walking down the beach,
remember in the mornings, going just coming down, where is
he coming this morning?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
But you know, but other than that, I felt it
was just like so much pressure. When people say, did
you have a better experience than Golden? It wasn't like
a he experience. It was just different, and it was
just it was just I guess maybe a little more fun.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
In a way, because I thought it was you had
more time and you got to know couples to and.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Not in competition and not like is he going to
talk to me? Is you know that ring? And so
it was just different and maybe I'm different too.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
So okay, so tell me about dating life. Are you
out there? Are you dating yet? Anybody special?

Speaker 3 (05:30):
No? No, no to all those people.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Don't get it, Leslie. People don't understand. And I've said
this to you when you and I've talked, Leslie. You're
beautiful person inside and out. Why men do not? You know,
are not? I talked to a lot. Is always saying
to me, Kathy, why don't you have a guy? Why
doesn't Leslie have a guy? Why doesn't Nancy have a guy?

(05:55):
And I'm always saying, you know, get your buddies and
line them up and send them because they don't.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
You wish you could just answer that. I mean, really
I can't answer.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
I mean, you know part of it, you know, living
and living not a small town, Minneapolis not a small town.
But I've lived here my whole life, and so I
know people I knew I knew people before I got
on the show, you know, because I was teaching all
the time and I had tons of people in my classes.
So and it's just, you know, it's like a small
big town, so you just know everybody.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
If you met the right person, would you leave that town?

Speaker 3 (06:31):
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's like, come on, We've talked about this.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Come on, I'm not leaving my grandkids. I'm not leaving
my grand kids now. But I would go back and forth.
I mean, who wants to be here in the winter.
It's but you know, but but I love summers and
I love like October is my favorite month. But my
grandkids are here. But yes, I would definitely travel. I
would go, I would come back. I would keep my

(06:56):
condo here all the time.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
And I mean, never give up your base right home.
But you will go stay with them for.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think, and then come back exactly.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
And both parties would have to be willing, correct and exactly.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
And the reason I pushed you is because you and
I've talked, Leslie, and you you always initially say I
wouldn't be my grandchildren, but you would you would, just
like I would, if for the right guy, go back
and forth.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Guy, if I'm cuckoo crazy about him. I will follow
him to the ends of the earth. You know, that's
just I'm like that. I'm hopeless romantic. But he's got
to come to Minneapolis too.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I've been I've been. I say that all my life
and somebody corrected me and.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Said it was me. It was me hopeful, hopeful romantic. Oh,
I say, I'm hopeless romantic.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Romantics.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
What Leslie?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
You would you date a lot? Because Leslie, you look young,
you act young. You know, we're gonna talk about your
dancing in a minute. How young would you date? And
I'm serious when I asked.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
You, Yeah, I know, I'm well, I joke about I
would never date anyone that's thirty nine because that's my
oldest child. But and I wouldn't date anyone forty nine.
I don't think I would maybe go fifty five fifty six,
because that's ten years younger. I mean, I don't know,
you know, dating dating young for me, it's like sixty,

(08:19):
I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Like dating young for you, Leslie.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Dating young for me a sixty you know, And I say, I,
you know, i'd go younger sixty, you know, But.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
It's not like we're looking for an age. You know
what I mean, I'm.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Almost for an age. I'm not looking for an age
at all, but I you know, I just I got
to keep it real, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, also, you know you work, you teach dance, which
I want to know. What's your favorite dance? What is
your favorite style of dance?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
Well, it's hip hop?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
But do you dance other dances? Though?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I don't. I've never ballroom danced in my life.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I have that, yeah, I mean, do you have never
ballroom dance?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Never? I mean, well, when Gary and I went on
our date, it was salsa. I guess I guess you
call that salcea. I was just following his lead.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I I don't dance like that, so so okay.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
So but I you know, I dance, I teach, I
teach hip hop. I teach kids hip hop. My dance
class is called dance Jam. It's it's like follow along dancing,
and I choreograph every song. So, you know, I mean,
when I know you, it's so much fun. When people say, oh,
you're a dancer, I'm like, I don't really call myself

(09:38):
a dancer. I call myself a fitness dancer.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
You know, like exactly, yeah, and like exercise.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah exactly. And I mean, of course I can dance,
and I've taken dance my whole life and skating, but
and I'm choreographing a ride and her groom dance on Saturday.
I do things like that, you know so. And I've
done flash moms and I've done and all that stuff.
But you know, I'm not any I'm not like take
my career or anything like that, you.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Know so, So answer who do you? Who do you?
What are the qualities? Like I feel like, you know,
you've been married before and you've dated. What if you
could find the guy, what are the really important characteristics
for him to have.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
They have to be funny. They have to make me laugh.
I mean we all have to laugh, all of us.
I feel like they, yeah, sense of humor. They have
to align with my moral compass with That's a few things.
We don't need to talk about that, but they have
to align with that. They have to be fit.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh no, no, no, wait wait wait morally is what
is exactly you? I think I think really you're saying,
and we don't have to say which side of ye on,
but you're saying, I know for a fact, leslie that
you want someone who you can who shares your political ideology,
and that's really important, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
It's important to me. It's important to me. It's more
important to me than religion. To be honest, I don't
need someone Jewish, you know. I just don't want someone
uber religious on whether a Jew or a non Jew,
you know, like, I don't want someone I'm very more
traditional Jewish. I'm not like you know, I don't celebrate.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Would you live with the guy if you work? Really?
Can I tell you a very funny story you'll laugh
at this. Uh? You know, I grew up in a
very Jewish neighborhood and all my friends were Jewish. And
what is the what is the uh? Is it Passover?
When you have to have the separate in the kosher household,
you have to have the separate spoon, separate somewhere for
milk and dairy. Yeah, well they kept kosher. Yeah they

(11:45):
kept Yeah, they kept right. You're right, they kept kosher.
And what did I know? They had to bury the
silverware in the backyard. Yeah, I mean, yeah, they did.
Moving right along, I don't know. I think I dipped
my fork in the steak and then dipped it in
the yogurt. I don't know. Whenever I did it, I

(12:06):
screwed up.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Who would you say you're closest to in Bachelor Nation?

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, I mean, I'm going to be honest with you.
Teresa and I are very close, but I have to
say since Paradise, I feel like I'm really close to Kathy.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
I don't know you time you slept in the same room.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
That's what happened, Leslie. I love you for saying that.
I feel the same way. But we've also had some,
you know, hard conversations, and I love that that we
can share because that, to me is what a really
good friend be honest, whether we're talking about a man,
you know, a relationship with a man, or a female friendship,
I think those are important. When those are important qualities

(12:58):
to have, and you and I've been able to do that,
and I really appreciate that something.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, thank you. I mean, you know, Teresa and Ellen
and Sandra, I mean you guys. You know, I love
all of you, guys. I just feel like Kathy. You know,
I'm sure you understand the Susan she says what she says,
what is in her head. There's no filter, and sometimes
she says it over and over and over again, and
then sometimes and then sometimes I have to you have

(13:22):
you stop? You have to stop saying that to me.
You know, like I feel like I could say anything
to her and not feeling.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
And I think that I'm going to take that as
a compliment because I and I do try to not
repeat myself. But you're right, Leslie, I am guilty that
sometimes when I go on my next date, I'm not
doing it.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Do you stay in contact with anybody else from from Paradise?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yeah? Oh, from Paradise? Well, you know what I do.
I text those those young girls. I you know, Leigh
and I are texting a lot. Cat you know Parsa.
You know, I got really close with Parsa. I just
love them so much. I say, you know, I'm sure
that Kathy feels like this too. She stayed down longer,

(14:03):
but I feel like I came home with like six daughters.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, how did you watch the end of the show? Obviously,
and how did you feel about the end?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
It was perfect? It was so happy for them, couldn't be.
It was exactly what I thought of. How I was
going to add to the yes.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
So can I just say, Leslie, you and I are
doing something wrong because Alex and Andrew are in Tokyo,
Japan with drug wait. I don't know what's going on there,
but they're traveling there. Uh, Bailey's getting ready to go
to China and somewhere else. They were in Portugal to
something like, what are you and I doing wrong?

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Well, you guys went on.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
We go to St.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Martin.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
We go every year, Leslie. The doors always open.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Well, I want to, but I have my retreats and
I don't know. I'm just I feel like it's already
like piling on.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, you know sometimes, Leslie, sometimes if you want your
life to be different, you gotta.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Do some sign I'm going to l A in a week.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Then I'm going to New York, and you know, I
am making my own way, but I'm going to I
told you I was going to l A because I'm
going to kind of I'm I'm the smoke spokesperson for
the for the Suicide Prevention, the you know, the Katie
Hurst Suicide Prevention and they're doing a walk run at

(15:28):
uc LA on Sunday the twenty eighth, and I'm going
to be there and people can walk with me. And
cause I'm sorry New York, New York. I'm doing a
few things. I'm doing a podcast. The timing was never right,
but it's right this time, so I'm going to do that.

(15:49):
And then I'm going to see Stephen Colbert. I cannot
wait on my bucket list. I'm taking April, I know,
the percussionist, and she's getting tickets.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Answer when is this?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
That's October like fourteenth or something like that, and Teres
is coming and she's meeting me in New York. And
I'm going to be meeting in a class all the
time in Long Island.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Oh, you should come to my class that lifetime, admit
it October tenth.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
We'll do this later. We can do this later. You
can well.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
So now we're going to move into our advice portion
of the episode. We're going to kick things off with
our question of the day. So, Leslie, we definitely would
love your thoughts on.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Okay, the question of the day. So many young people
fear getting older. What advice do you have to anyone
that's afraid of aging.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
That's a good question, but that is an easy one
for me to answer because people, the young people, I'm
sure they do the same thing. With you guys. They
come up to me all the time, and they said,
you make looking older so like easy and great, and
I don't fear it when I look at you guys,
and you know, the Golden Bachelor girls. So basically I

(17:09):
just say, you know, the other day I did like
a talk with like fifteen twenty two year olds and
they asked me all these questions and I said, and
they said, whish you know the same question. I said.
You know what, you guys, this is what I say.
Just live life. Never say no to anything. You know, always,
you know, think first before you say some things. But

(17:32):
be free. Just be free and open to things and
just experience, you know, experience life, because that's really all
we've got. We've got our family, we've got our experiences.
And you know, I did say, you got to take
care of yourself because when you get older, your body
is your temple and it's really your only thing. You
know that you've got to be strong.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Stuff good qualities about aging, like what we know, what
we've learned throughout life, and you don't worry about the
small things so much.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I feel that's for them because they're always worrying about things,
and I'm like, just so it's hard for us to
say that.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
To them when they're so so Leslie, you must be
reading our mind because the question of the day actually
leads into our advice portion of the episode. And so
I'm going to ask you a couple of questions, and
it actually is just a follow on of what you
just started to talk about. What advice do you have

(18:32):
to Golden's or other adults that are past their thirties.
You know that we still struggle with body image and fitness.
We Susan and I get so many writings asking for
advice about dealing with body changes, you know, especially during pregnancy.
What advice do you have for anyone struggling with maintaining
fitness or finding a place for it in their lives.

(18:55):
So it's it's not just you know, the thirty year olds.
We all So I'm curious what you think.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Yeah, I mean I have actually my book club. They're
younger than me and they are going through menopause right now,
and I was just with them last night and I said,
the best thing you guys can do for your bodies
when you're getting older is do weight bearing exercises. I mean,
we all need to lift weights. When we get older,
because that is what's going to keep our bones healthy.

(19:20):
And you know, as far as just you know, even
if you have a small set of weights in your
house and just do you know, you can go online
and find any exercise and and ten minute workout. You know,
I don't have to. If you don't want to go
to a gym, you don't have to. But I would
just say, you know, I got to keep moving. I mean, really,
you got to get off the couch. You got to

(19:41):
keep moving.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
You and I, Leslie, we've talked about this, you and
I in Paradise. We were doing our push ups on
the beach lifting weights. Were Yeah, we are as fit
as any of those young and problems. Yeah, but probably
more fit than some of but here I'll pay to
see that. Yeah, that's overstated the case, just to tid
but one, I trained with weights. I have a trainer,

(20:06):
a train, I'm in the gym three days a week.
I powerwalk.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
You know.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
We talked about a lot, but one thing that I
think Golden's really anyone over the age of between forty
and fifty and onwards, it's all about fitness, keeping your
bones strong, all of that, being able to move but
it's also about not breaking bones right and having balance

(20:30):
and caving strength because as we get older, wrist yeah,
and it's because I mean, freak accidents are going to happen.
But when we you and I and people who work
out a lot, if we tend to, you know, jostle
and lose, we can regain our balance because we've done
we spend a lot of time doing.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Walking and heels and water and your elbow.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
But about me, one that didn't work out ever, And
it's never too late because I've just begun and I
am lifting. And it's a struggle, it really is, but.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
It but it becomes a part of your life, Susan,
if you do it long.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Enough, it's you know what you guys are a habit,
a habit. It takes thirty days to get into a habit.
I think it takes thirty days to break a habit. Whatever.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
But those people that are struggling saying, well, I never
worked out, I'm going to do this.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
I can't do that. You can do it. You can,
you can.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's just and just put one foot in front of
the other.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
I mean, it's easy for me to say because it's
always been a part of my life.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Well, yes, so I never had.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
To start somehow, you know, but I would just you know,
I'm a motivator. I just want people to get healthy
and be healthy and strong, and you know, some young
people need to get up and move to It's like,
you know, the good thing about like the pilates craze
with the like I teach every former class, but that

(21:54):
is helping younger people exercise because they really like that
class and they're like they're all time.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Yeah, the reform.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, so it's all kind of a movement.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
It is hard. I know, what do you tell women, Leslie,
because I'm sure you teach them, uh in your dance classes,
women who've just had babies, pregnancy because for me that
was a struggle to get fit again after having babies.
You know, do you have those class Well.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
I do have people coming in, but I just always
say take a slow you know, even in my reformer
class to day has somebody that had just had a
baby and she just did what she could. I mean,
you're showing up, that's the first. That's the hardest part.
You're showing up. You're there, You're ready to go, whether
you do half the class or a few exercise, take

(22:46):
a break. I don't care. And I always say that
to people. Don't worry if you can't follow me. I mean,
just go at.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
It's funny when people talk about finding time, finding a
place in their lives for fitness. I've said the susan
like put down your games on your computer. Everyone has
twenty four hours in their day. Anybody can find starting
out ten minutes for fitness. And you don't start out
like you and I do, lifting weights and working out

(23:15):
the way we do. But we didn't start you know,
we didn't start this yesterday. And so that's my advice
to people is.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
I would say start with you know what the best
exercises push ups. You start on your knees, you do five.
The next day, you add a couple.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
More more against the kitchen counter, your name, my bureau.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
I did the fifty challenge, fifty fifty push ups.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Yes it's nine.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Sometimes when I turned fifty, I did fifty in a
row on my toes.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
That was only want, and that was that.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
I'm doing it.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
You and I did one hundred in Paradise.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Oh I do one hundred, but I was twenty at
a time.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, Well that's what I'm saying you can't do it
all at once, if you can only do ten and
then an hour later do ten or fifteen more.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I should have seen me in the hotel and am
I probably two wondering every every five minutes?

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's that's all we Your advice is great.
I mean, everyone knows Leslie is synonymous with dance and fitness,
so we appreciate your advice on that. We've got to

(24:26):
ask you some questions, Leslieies.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Okay, sorry, my dog is bothering me right now. Okay,
We're gonna let you ask us anything you want. Oh,
I stead of spousing you, you get to the floor,
is yours?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Have your number? Careful your number?

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I know? Do I ask you separately things?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Whatever? Whatever?

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Your little heart?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Okay, Susan, tell me about your boyfriend.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Son. Yes, Kathy and I were on vacation and I
hadn't express I know, are you madam?

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeh yes, y And communication was difficult at the beginning,
but he's a charming gentleman.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Are you Are you learning French?

Speaker 4 (25:08):
So I've taken every course.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
I'm starting to be able to read it, oh and
understand it. But when I speak I sound like I
have a Spanish accent.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
She like she's from Brochure.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I could do, I could say, but I'm not good
at it at all. He however, has a heavy accent
when he speaks his English words, and we crack up
because he'll repeat the same word twelve times and he
gets louder, and I go, I don't know what you're saying.
And finally it'll dawn on me. Gota remember the Fort

(25:44):
Knox and I find.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
It, I go for it.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
I say this, I go, no, you didn't say you
thought you were things like that, But when.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
It's really My husband is French, but he does I mean,
he speaks English, but but he does have a heavy
accent in it.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
If it's really really important, he'll say this is important
and we both run and we get the translator so
that we.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Could speak French.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
No, I mean I took French in school, but I
mean I understand it way better than I can speak.
You do, yes, And he speaks French to my grandson,
and so my grandson, my daughter in laws, is Mexican,
so she speaks Spanish to him, and then David speaks
French to him, and then Eli speaks he's teaching him Hebrew,

(26:32):
so he's got four language.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
That's how it should be.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
I know, I know, I wish, I wish they would
have done that for me. But there, okay. So then
I don't know if you know that the new iPods
air pods have a translator.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I love them.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
We have glasses, we have, but you always need this,
always you have to have and that's okay.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
And he says, darling, hell are we going to learn?
And I get you right?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Wait, can I just tell you? I don't know if
I've told you the story, but unless you'll get a
crack out of it, I noticed less you had no
questions for me. We'll take that up later.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I do have a questions.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
What is what am I supposed to do?

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I asked Susan. Now I'm going to I was going
to ask you, do you miss Paradise as much as
I do?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Yes? I do. I you when you said earlier in
this podcast that you know you enjoyed Paradise, but it
was different, oh, comparing Paradise to Golden for me. I know,
I loved Paradise. I loved being, like you said, having
these young adults that actually cared what you and I thought,

(27:42):
and wanted to be around us and and and spending
time with you, and yeah, I like when I came home.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
It was when I came home from from Golden Bacheler.
I missed you guys. I just didn't miss when you
went through something. Yeah, that's it was. It was always
sign it. I do miss the young us, you know,
I just I love them so much.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
But that was my question. Yes I do. Okay, but
I just have to tell you a very funny story.
I haven't met this guy yet, but I'm probably going
to meet him. But he called me on the phone
to chat with him, and very funny, very nice guy.
I haven't met me, had no no phone calls, in
no emails. I don't know anything, very little about him.
But the reason he wanted to call him talk to
me first was he was on a dating site and

(28:27):
he drove an hour and a half to meet this woman.
And they sat down for dinner and he said she
was very pretty on the dating app. And he said,
we sat down and she had three words of English,
and I burst out laughing. I said, well, hell, I'm
I'm ahead of the race here, and I got I
I have way more than three words. And he started laughing,

(28:49):
and I said, I have to ask you, because you
know me a million questions. How did that go? He said,
We spent a lot of time staring at our phones translating,
and I thought to myself, oh my god. And he said,
but I learned a very important lesson. I said, what
did you learn? He said, at least have a short
phone conversation with the person before you invite them out

(29:10):
for dinner. Can I have to.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Hear the person's voice?

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Would I would share that with someone, wouldn't you?

Speaker 3 (29:18):
By the way, I don't all that way. I'd have
to hear the voice. The voice is important to me.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
They talk.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, well you heard what happened to me when I
corrected Brian's grammar. So I'm out of that game.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Well, Fred, our first date, he said, I hope you
speak French better than my English. Do you have ear pods?
And do you like to dance? And the ear pods?
As soon as we met, he took my phone, he
downloaded the app.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Kathy did a little bit of friends.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
She stayed for one drink and left, and then for
three hours I was looking at the phone and at
one point I said, you know where I come from?
When I go on a date or meet somebody, I
usually make eye contact and I can't even tell you
what color you are.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
And we started rapping them.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Wait, Leslie, I want to know, have you ever met
a guy where like, I've talked to guys on the
phone and I'm in love with their voice and then
I meet them and where is this? Where's the closest exit?

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Well that happened to me, but it was even worse.
I spent two hours on a zoom with them and.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
Wait minute, and what was different?

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Though?

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Wait a second? Oh wait, you're in now at Leslie,
I know?

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Okay, so this So my friend worked for this uh
talk ify. It's called talk Ify. They match you up.
And she she was and she knew I was going
to New York for something. This was a year ago
or so maybe yeah, a year ago. And so she said,
I have a guy. He's Jewish. Okay, all right? So

(30:52):
I spent two hours on a zoom with him, and
he was really nice and cute and.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
We had so much looking forward to it, right, yes.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
And we just met for coffee. Again. I happened to
be in New York. I didn't go to New York
to meet him, but he met, but it was as
soon as we met in person done.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
It was just what do you think it was done
for you or for him or both?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
I don't know. For him, it was for me. The
vibe wasn't there. He he had a little bit of
a crop, a.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Little bit of a what cross eye, I'd be staring
at it, I'm slipping.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
But on the zoom he was looking at the screen,
but not like this way, but kind of like this was.
I couldn't see.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I don't know. I'm sorry. He was so nice. I'm
sorry that's not nice. But I'm just saying I think
you just when you meet somebody in person, it's just
a completely different thing.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
I don't know I have helped, though I really.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Did well too.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I don't know. I've never zoomed with a guy and
then met him, but I I have talked to so
many guys on the phone that have the best voice,
and then I meet them and I'm like, I'm so out.
I'm because it doesn't take me along, Like, how long
is it take you, Leslie, when you meet a guy
to know if you're interested?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
I say fifteen seconds.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
You're saying fifteen.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
I know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
So here's the thing with me now. And I say
this earlier, but Leslie, beyond of course, you're younger than
I am. But I in my mind, I have this
image of the man, the look that I would like.
But I'm trying to get over that. I'm trying to
I'm you know, I'm trying to just be open to

(32:45):
whatever they bring and see.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
No.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Actually, because I'll tell you why, Because I'm changing what
I want if I want.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
To feel that, I feel. Yes, I feel like after
the show and me and me being very invested in
Gary or Gary, I feel like, you know, that's not
the typical person that I definitely and I actually liked
the fact that.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
I was something different exactly.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
So I was like, okay, I'm growing up.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
You know, me and a big girl.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah exactly. I'm like, Okay, this is good. You know.
That is what I'm supposed to do. It supposed to
be open. My daughter's last words to me be open, mom,
don't you know? So I was? And then you know so,
and so that was good. I'm glad you.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Gave it the old cult. Try to be clear, Leslie,
you gave it the old col try. I thought very
appropriately with Gary. You know, you went to see if
there was something there. You came, you saw, you didn't
you know it was what it was. But I'm saying
that when we when I was younger, I would meet
a guy, he didn't have to open his mouth, I

(34:00):
would just look at him and if I wasn't And
now that's not settling to answer your question, because I'm
now realizing that look, I don't look great compared to
what I like when I was thirty either.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well, I mean, weren't getting.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Older, right, and so I so now I want to
give men a chance to see what their personality is like.
Are we compatible? You know, those things to me are
becoming more important. Like we had talked to April. We
had her on podcast and she was talking about, you know,
the look that she likes, and you know, April, that's

(34:38):
that's her world. But I said to listen to her,
thinking I have I guess I really am changing because you.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Know, if I like a body type two and forever,
they had to be built and I don't care a
few extra pounds.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
I don't care about that.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's who you are and how I feel when I'm
with you.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
You know, I want someone that's that that has that
takes care of himself, because I do, so I want
someone that does that as well.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Right, But but the point is, Leslie, you don't care,
or maybe I'm putting more in your mouth, you don't
seem that you care. If the guy is a dawn
as fitness level, just a guy who goes to the gym.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
Bye takes care of it.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
You know, he may not be as thin as ever.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I mean, they don't have to do all the things
that I do. I mean, you know, if they ski
and snowboard, that's bonus. But if they don't, that's fine.
If you know, you know, I I'm fine with that.
I just want someone that takes care of themselves.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, you know, Oh God, I hate to burst this bubble,
but you know what time it is.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's time for you to go out and find a
guy for Kathy and Leslie.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
That's going to do it for this episode of Bachelor
Happy Hour's Golden Hour.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Leslie, thank you, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I miss you.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
We're definitely we always say let's play in something and
it never happens. But if you're going to be a
New York and you know ahead of time, let me know.
I'm a couple of hours away.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
So I and you know you have an open invitation
to Austin. Thank you for coming on Lussie. You always
give great advice, and thanks to all of you out
there for joining us. Be sure to follow Bachelor Happy
Hour because we have new episodes coming every week and
you don't want to miss even one.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Definitely not make sure to keep submitting those questions because
that gives us something to talk about and our guests
give their input as well, and you know how to
do it. You can go to bachelornation dot com slash
Golden Hour, or you can dm us on Instagram at
Bachelor Happy Hour.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio app,
or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Until next time,
have a great week.
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