August 15, 2025 • 41 mins
Today on Golden Hour we're diving into more of your questions! We kick things off getting into this week's ultra dramatic episode of Paradise. Kathy and Susan have lots to say and as always, they are not holding back! Then, we jump into our question of the day: what do you do when you're asked for some serious advice, but you're totally stumped? And of course, we get into your questions that truly have no easy answers. From monster in-laws, from support falling through the cracks when your friends are in different life stages, we're getting into it all. Plus, we end things off with a round of Truth or Drink: Paradise Edition! Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks
so much for joining us. We are so excited to
be back.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Huh, Kathy always always, Today we're going to be answering
more of your fan questions. Make sure you're submitting those.
We love, love love reading them. All you have to
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay, Susan, First things first, we have got to talk
about Monday's episode of Paradise.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh boy, don't judge me, fans, don't judge me for
the things I'm about.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So what's coming? Hi? Wait? Can I get in on
that too? Don't judge me? The book? Go ahead? You start?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Where should we start? We start with our girlfriend Faith, Yes,
when she said and that contest a sexy hooker.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
And the question was, I can't believe you're bringing that up.
The question was what characters would you like to play
in the bedroom? And I saw that roleplay and I
was like, oh no, not going down that road. I
would even write nurse and doctor I wrote Mickey and
middy mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know, Kath, I know I saw.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And Faith wrote. What did she write again?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Sexy hooker?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Oh God, wouldn't you love to be a flan on
the wall in her bed?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I would like to try to act like a sexy hooker.
I don't think I could do it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Okay, I don't know that I found that. The thing
I have to say about Faith and Kim in this episode,
two things I want to say. One is all that
seemed to go on. There was kissing. I'm like, where's
the conversation? Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I noticed?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
She didn't seem like she talked to any of you.
It's our Faith. We did a whole entire show with her.
She's our friend. Yet she seemed only focused on him.
And I'm only praying that when this show is over
that they're together, because if they're not, I'm going to
call you. You wanted to stay on the show. You
(02:20):
hoped on to somebody. Is that what it's about? I
mean some people do that well, Bath calling Faith, I
want to know if you're still with them.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I will say that I was really glad that they
said because I did say that that Keith and I
are good friends. That's really important.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And the young ones knew that because one of them
was voting one of you is off because they said
they're just friends, right, But you weren't a threat to
them to win that month.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Were you surprised?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Were you surprised that Kim and Faith were voted off?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
No? No, because a few of them call them, call
them on it. Not that not said it to them,
but they were thinking, you know, this is a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah. No, I was okay, we got that, so you know,
bye bye Faith and Kim. One more thing I have
to say. I have been getting shocker some hate mail
on social media that I'm jealous of Kim and Faith
their relationship.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well because you said get a room.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, oh god, when he ever said bring in some oil,
I thought I was going to lose my lunch. But
let me just say, I am not jealous. There is
one little shred of jealousy. So just to put that
one to rest Faith and Kim. You yeah, not it
for me, not even a little bit. And I said
(03:49):
over and out when I saluted him, trust me.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But to me, the show was great, But the whole
show for me is. All I could think about was Brian.
And when Wells came out and made that statement, I
saluted Wells like, you are absolutely okay.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But so I'm watching this and I'm like, all I
could think of was that song from the sixties lies lies,
like if your mouth is moving your line, I mean,
here's the thing, the lies. I want you to go. Wait, Mi,
I missing something here because you were watching it back.
We know what they said, right, So Jeremy said he
(04:29):
never he swore he swore to.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Bailey that he did.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
He never said he would propose to Zzusie and Leaf. Nope,
yeah he did. Check first lie. Bailey swore it wasn't
Brian who told her.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
To because she didn't want to bury Brian.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't care. It's another lie. Brian lied about not
telling Bailey. I'm like, what is going on? And so
when Wells came on, who I absolutely adore anyway, I
love you Wells, I was like, finally somebody who's making
some s. Yes, when they're talking about broke code, what
broke code?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So that's what it's about. But if we're going to
say bro code code, the girls did know and they
told her they didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So so I Okay, here's the thing. I think. I mean,
based on what we saw, the girls knew that. I
don't know. But as I'm watching it, I'm thinking, did
you know Alex who I adore so sweet, comforting Bailey?
(05:37):
I don't think and I don't know, but this just
from watching the show, I'm not sure that all the
girls knew that Jeremy had said he would propose to
leave the show with her. I don't think they knew
that because I think if they'd known that, I think
they would have stepped up. I mean, you and I,
(05:57):
of course were older, we would have gone right to
the person said hey, girlfriend, because you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Want your girlfriends to look like a fool, that's right. However,
he came clean and agreed that he did to and
he shouldn't have, and tried to make and there to
kill there again.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I think he felt pressure. You're saying, Brian, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
No, I think Brian felt no. Jeremy oh, I felt
bad for Brian. I think Brian hats off to you.
I know the guys are going to be pissed off
at you, no bro code or whatever it is, but
you actually care about Bailey, and I want her to
be taken for a fool and you great, how about Marissa?
(06:41):
While he was saying I'm going to go tell she
was looking She looked like a deer in headlights, like,
oh well.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I don't I mean, come on, she I don't think
Priest is a confrontational person. I don't think she wanted
to get in the middle of it. And by by
association with Brian, it was probably gonna happen. But here's
the one thing that I picked up, and I was
curious if you did. When Bailey goes in and wakes
Jeremy up, and by the way, Jeremy looked irritated as
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all get out that he was being woken up. Get up,
Jeremy and talk to the girl that you professed cares
so much about that. I was thinking that I was.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Holding on to where though I was it was crying.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
But and did you notice that Bailey was didn't wait
for answers. She's she wakes him up, She's saying, did
you do this? Did you do that? I can't believe
I thought she and she calls it scream crying. She says,
I was scream crying. She doesn't wait for his answers.
It's almost like she just wanted to vomit out yes
(07:41):
and not really hear his answers. And I was surprised
by that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Why would you give him an opportunity to lie nobody
when you're found guilty, okay, and somebody's calling you on it,
and you know you're guilty. He was probably relieved that
she did the scream cry, but she did.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But I'm saying she didn't give him a chance to
say yes, I said it, and when she finally did,
he lied and said he didn't do those things, and
he said he was just trying to if I heard
the TV correctly, I'm sorry, Jeremy, I'm really kind of
like losing it here when you say I was just
trying to play paradise like what you're playing with people's
(08:21):
emotions exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And I will give him, you know what, it was
early when she was there, tell the truth. You know,
I didn't know yet. I do like her, but I
didn't know how I was going to feel about you
now that we've come this far. That's all he had
to do, if that is the truth, because I'm second
guess and everything now.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's right, and you know, if you if you lie
then it's very difficult to believe anything else that comes
out of your mouth. Once you've lied to me, then
I'm not I'm not believing much of what comes out
of it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You come out here, wait to see what. But they
can't happy just.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Give a shout out to Keith? Can I just give
a shout? He told me I looked beautiful in my
red dress, and that made me feel so good. That
was I thank you, Keith, and I may he really
made me feel like a million bucks. The other thing
was I loved how Keith said there's no right choice
here who to send home. I think that is a
mature vision of no good answer.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It wasn't the possibility that you two could have left
polity absolute?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, when when were you sur I was. I
was a little surprised. Although I had heard some mumblings about,
you know, the people talking about Kim's health with his
heart monitor, which you know.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And everybody assumed they were going to kick Brian off because.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I yeah, because they were mad with him. I was
a little surprised. I was grateful. I was so happy
to be there because Keith and I really have formed
a close friendship with the each other and the other
cast members really care and still do care about all
those young ones. I mean so so so, I don't know.
(10:10):
I think it's I think it's had.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Taken back about how everybody reacted to all of it.
And I'm sorry how everyone reacted to what Brian did.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Were you were surprised?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You saying that at the women? At the young women?
First of all, what does that say about somebody when
you're all angry and the guys too, they're angry because
Brian told the girl the truth? How can you be
angry at that? It's the truth.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think when you're younger, sometimes you you know, you
want to stay in your lane and you figure they'll
work it out. I think Jeremy had said he was
going to tell her and he should have. Well, but
he only said he should have after he got caught
with pants down, no pun intended. Yes, I mean that's
(11:03):
when he told the truth, when he was forced when
you're forced into a corner, Hey did you call her? Yes?
But he still lied. He still said I didn't say
I was.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Gonna once you show to somebody like if you lied
to me, I don't know that I'll trust one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Ever again, well, that's what I just said you two
seconds ago that once you lie to me, I'm not
sure I can believe anything that comes out of your mouth.
So I think there was a lot of If we're
wrapping this one up, it's a lot of lies wrapped
up in a paradise bow. And thank you Wells for
shedding the truth.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh. I was so happy when he came out and
said that. I was screaming at the your day right.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, it was rough, but you know what, I can't
wait to see, uh what happens next week. Keith and
I are holding the torch now for the goldens and
glad to be there. And you know, I can't wait
for next Monday to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Now, You and I both you and I both.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
All right, It's time to get into today's episode, and
as always, we're going to start things off with the
question of the day. Okay, Susan, are you ready? Yes?
I am, Okay. Have you ever had a friend come
to you asking for advice and you've been totally stumped?
(12:30):
What was it like? What is your go to advice
when you're at a loss and there's no simple advice
to be given?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What says you oh baby surprise. Stumped. Yes, because I
felt like I couldn't tell them really how I felt.
Now today, if I was asked this and this happened,
I could, But back then, I because most likely it
was about a man that I disagreed and I thought
(13:00):
he was a piece of you know what and she
shouldn't be with him. But I didn't have the heart
when they're so in love, that's that's an uncomfortable So.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you're saying, now I
think we're about to disagree, folks. Oh boy er shocker.
Are you saying that if I came to you and
ask you for advice, you might say something that is
knowingly going to hurt me and make me feel badly.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm going to tell you the truth, and if that's
the case, I'll lighten it the best I can. But
I have to be real and honest.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yes see, I'm telling you, folks, I used to be
that way. I used to be the girl that gave
one hundred percent honesty. Now I'm much more. You know,
our good friend Nancy taught me a lesson. She always says,
when something happens or people say things, think to yourself,
(13:59):
how would you feel so now. When someone asked me
for advice, oftentimes I think, how is my answer going
to make them feel? And if I know that it's
going to make them feel badly, I may not be
honest because, especially our age, Susan, let's face it, we're
not going to change. We can change on the margin,
(14:20):
but we're not like the young ones on Paradise. When
they ask me for advice, I was brutally real because
they're young enough to change, right, But I just don't
think people our age.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
What if it was about a clothing option, you know
that they tried something on they felt really good about it.
Do you love this on me?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like? Well, I don't think you would be totally stumped.
If I said you, Susan, what do you think of
the stress? You'd say that's the ugliest thing since I
say event a toast. But I think I think.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now me something that I stump me, well.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't stump for me is the wrong word. I
think you might not know how to answer something. If
I said to you, Susan, if it was a dating question,
you might not know how to answer it. But the
answer that would come to your mind might be your truth.
But for me, I might think, oh, I can't say
(15:16):
that to Susan what I really because it might hurt her.
And I used to be the girl that would say it.
I think my go to advice now is more like
what Nancy says, I don't know, Susan, how do you
feel about it? I sort of turn a mirror back
and say, how do you feel?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Because that's like therapy one.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So like if I said to you, okay, if you
said to me, Susan, should I break up because you
have one? Should I break up with my partner even
though I still love them? Or is it okay to
stay with Joe because he cheated on me? Do you
think I'm going to say to you, I'm not. I'm
going to say, I don't know, Susan, how do you
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feel about it?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm living it right now with Frederick's daughter.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
That's right, very and you think you and and and
what was? So for those of who my advice, what's
your advice?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
If it was the first time, okay, the second time, No, that's.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Starters going through a cheating episode with her boyfriend. Just
so we're clear with everything. No, it's I did.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Say to her, but it's up to you. Your answering
my opinion, and my opinion is no way, no.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And what and what was her answer to you? Said
to me? She said I love him, So I would
say you have to do My answer always is what
do you have to do? What should you do? You
have to live with your decisions, think about it carefully,
and make the best decision for you. Because now, Susan,
(16:53):
what I've learned is it's not my life. It's not
my life to live with a cheater and say I
love him. I'm just using that example.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You can see it a third time. It's going to
happen and you're going to be in a better place.
Then you're going to waste another year of your life.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And the answer is a lot of people are, but
some point there is it's not our life. Yes, they
have to learn in their own time. So I but
I will say to you when I was younger, and
mind you, I still have lots of advice that and
sometimes it's unwanted, but remember what did Let's tell everybody
what was my New Year's resolutions?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And mine your business my own business.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And not give people advice. And I've I'm going to
give you myself an a minus. So far this year,
and believe I've.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Had kathy about this one. Yeah, I'm in love with
someone who is already in a relationship. What should I do?
That's easy to me?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Oh not not if you're in love with them. It's
the same thing as cheating if you're in love with
that first And love love is blind. It's not just
a TV show, it's an adage. Love is blind.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So what advice would you get if someone.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That I'm in love with someone who's in love with someone.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Else who's already in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I would say, listen. If it were you, I'd say, Susan,
I love you to pieces and I'm you're crazy. I
would say, are you out of your mind? But I understand?
But you know what you do? You coin your phrase,
you have to do you. I wouldn't do it, That's
what I would say. I wouldn't do it. But it's
not my life, sweetie, it's your life. You have to
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do what brings you happiness. And ultimately, people make their
own decisions. So I'm much more of a live and
let live girl than I used to.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And what if someone came and said, should I break
up with my partner? Even though I still love them.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We already we just talked about that about your your
your Frederick's daughter.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yes, the answer is yes, but when.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, young, answer is The answer is not telling someone
what to do.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The answer is asking you. If they ask you, what
would you do right? Or your advice, that is what
they're saying.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's asking for your advice. And my advice always is now,
you have to do what brings you happiness and joy
and a decision that you can live with. It doesn't
matter what I would do, Susan, I'm not living your
life and that and that's me a long time to
get there, so you know, yeah, that's kind of where
(19:34):
I am. And I know it's hard. What's really hard
for me, Susan, And you know this is sitting back
and watching someone living. It's like watching a horror movie
in slow motion.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Kathy comes undone.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But you know what, I used to come undone and
say something. Now I just come undone, go pour myself
a drink and gets a bag of EM and M's
and wait for it to play out.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
All right, let's get into our fan questions for today.
I'll start yourself with the first one. Okay, okay, Sydney writes,
my husband and I are trying to have a baby.
This would be our first. However, I have PCOS, so
I'm taking medication to help us, and it is amping
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up my hormones and challenging my mental health. I don't
feel like I have much of a support system. I
feel like lately I can't even explain to my friends
about what's going on because I noticed they're not reaching
out to me, or if I try to approach the topic,
it quickly changed. I should mention none of my friends
(20:43):
are married, nor do they have kids, and the advice
for how to navigate this difficult and exciting time.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Okay, So for those of you who don't know PCOS
is polycystic ovarian syndrome. It's painful, it's not fun. There's
lots of side effects, care loss, screwing with your hormones.
It's a thing. But here's what I would say to you, said, Naith,
it doesn't matter in my opinion that your friends don't
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have kids or aren't married. I think your situation you
need a support group. That's what I would say to you.
Ask your doctor where you can find a support group
for people who are going through what you're going through,
and online support group. Listen, you can find a group
for everything online and that would be a way to
(21:33):
help you. It's not a fun situation to be in,
and I love the fact that you say it is
an exciting time because you are trying to have a baby,
and of course you want to focus on that, but
you've got a tough road to navigate and you need
people to support you. And sometimes the people that support
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us aren't necessarily our closest friends or our families when
we have a specific condition. What do you think is also.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Your hormones are all over the place and the medication
you're taking is making it even worse. But don't be
upset with your friends. Maybe they don't understand it right
so they avoid the subject. That's nothing against you. As
Cassy said, you do need someone to talk to. Sometimes
it is your spouse or your other half. Maybe he's
(22:23):
understanding a little more because.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And somebody sometimes it isn't. And sometimes you know, my
daughter when she first moved to Austin after grad school,
she went on Facebook for to find friends. Facebook has
groups for everything, so Sydney, I would encourage you get online.
Go to Facebook, see if you can find a support group.
(22:47):
And if nothing else, it's going to be a great
place to meet new friends.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
My daughter, I'm wishing you, we're wishing you that this
situation resolves and that you get pregnant, because there's it's
it's a great it's a great time.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But I agree with Katy about the face group Facebook
group because my daughter, when she was having problem with
the implants like she's like ahead of she has so
many people that she talks to, she had hers taken out.
She was sick for three years and didn't know why.
So you're exactly right, Kathy. I think i'd start there
or therapy, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, I mean Facebook, online platforms. Ask your doctor and
we wish you all the best in deals with this
a really tough situation. Okay, you're ready to move on,
here's the next one.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And by the way, Sidney, let us know we hope
that you get pregnant and we hope this situation resolves itself. Okay.
Anonymous rights, Hi, Kathy and Susan. I love your podcast.
I have never missed an episode. Well, wow, Anonymous, thank
you so much. I Oh, I know you have covered
issues with in laws in the past, and I'm having
(23:59):
some issue shoes with mine. My mother in law is
a pretty good grandmother to my children, but she isn't
so nice to me. For example, she has called a
shirt I wore hideous and joked that she wants to
murder my family and me. That's not a joke, okay,
said my baby's name is stupid in front of all
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my guests at my baby shower. The list goes on
and on. My question to you, ladies is what do
I do going forward. I have tried every approach I
can think of. I have tried taking the high road.
I have tried simply defending myself and calling her out
on her bs. Nothing works. My husband said she has
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had a difficult upbringing which causes her to have a
lack of social skills and there is no changing her.
He has tried talking to her as well. I'm at
a loss help. I wish one of you was my
mother in law. Love you gals, we do too.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Trust me.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
WO take you on tomorrow. You can be mine?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So you trust me?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You're right. I had the mother in law and father
in law from hell and very similar story to you.
They loved my children, did not love me, and it
reallyps as Susan, and I told you it was really
difficult between my husband and me. My advice is try,
(25:25):
but you know what, if she's not going to change,
she's not going to change. Let your husband spend time
with her, drop the grandkids off, limit your time with her.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
As she said, she tried taking the high road. Ye,
and she's tried defending herself and calling her out on
her bs. What about like at the baby shower and
she said it's stupid, And you say something like, well,
you're entitled to your opinion, keep it to yourself. We
(25:55):
don't care what you think.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, but you can't say that a baby shower. And
I tried those things with my mother in law and
it never worked. But I will say to you, I
have to take issue with something I.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Would her husband.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, you say that, Susan, Come on the girl.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
She's going to be rude and embarrass me. Then you're
not welcome here. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You want to years old, you're not you want to.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Go visit with your mom? She's not welcome here, not
if she's going to continue to embarrass her.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well, here's what I'm going to say. It didn't work
that way for me, and it was too disruptive and
hard for my husband, even though it was an issue
between us. Here's what I will say. I don't buy
into you, hear me, I'm emphasizing this. You know, Susan,
(26:47):
I had a really tough upbringing. I was an abuse child.
I had no modeling to be a parent until I
moved in with my step mom and my dad. I
didn't know what was up. When I had children. It
was like WHOA. I could have been abusive and horrible
like my mother. But you know what I did. I
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sat there and got therapy and made friends and spent
my life's work to be the best mom. Did I
make mistakes? Yes, So Anonymous, you need to tell your
husband from me. Just blame on me, Anonymous. Having a
tough upbringing blah blah blah is not an excuse. And
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she has a lack of social skills. Perhaps your husband
might suggest that she gets some social skills.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He helped talking to her as well.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yes, but otherwise otherwise you're going to end up where
I ended up. My husband took my mother in law
for lunch. He would go over there. I saw her
exactly what.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I said, Kathy let him go visit his mother and you,
but you can't.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Say at the baby shower, get out.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Of my baby shower. But if she tells me the
name I'm choosing is dam or stupid f you who
asked you, it's not your child.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Okay, I want to be at the baby shower, Susan
where at twenty dollars? Stay where? You say to your
mother in law if you the name is Jeremiah, whether
you like it or not, I want to be there.
I want to be there.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You're entitled to your opinion, dear, Now zip it there.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, listen, I'm the zip A queen. And I wouldn't
have said that to my mother in law. I just
chose to stay away.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And you know, me and Kathy would be your mother
in Law's easy, we'd be fine.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I will, Anonymous. I'm going to say one thing to you.
Do you know who the big loser hair is? Anonymous?
Your mother in law. She might be a great grandmother,
but your kids will sense that it's unfortunate. But you
know what you can only change in life what you
can change. Yes, So I'm sorry for you and Anonymous.
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If things get really tough, you reach out to me.
I will be your mother in law, my son and
daughter in law. Sorry, my son in law and my
daughter in law say I'm the best, and I think
yours think the same with you too, Susan.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I wish you a lot, a lot of luck, and
you know what you're going to be on my mind.
I wish you patience and to be able to speak
your mind when you have to.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And I hope that you find a way to limit
your exposure to her, because you're not going to change her. Now, Okay, Susan,
Today we're going to be playing one of my favorites,
Truth or DRIC Paradise edition. We're going to switch off
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reading the bats we're in Paradise prompt and we'll both
either answer or take a drink if we don't want
to answer, and I might take a drink even if
I do answer. Okay, I'm going to read the first one.
Who do you think went home too early and deserve
to come back to the beach? And I think we
could answer this in unison Nancy two three, Nancy absolutely,
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I mean she was there so short twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Out of all the current couples, do you think anyone
is faking a physical connection? If yes, who, I don't
know what do you think, Well, I think since they
had added money to the game, quite possibly. I think
only half of a couple might be Come on, spit out,
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give me names or drink Jeremy Well, Jeremy said, I
think Brian and Jeremy are both after the money I did.
But are they faking a physical connection? I think Brian maybe, Yeah,
he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You're not your boat?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, I guess what is that?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Truth? What about? What about drink? What? Any? Do you
think any Goldens are faking it? I mean, remember, I'm
not faking it because Keith and I have said from
the beginning, is anybody faking any of the Goldens faking it?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't think any of the Goldens are really.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Faith was making it a lot. I don't know. I
don't mind.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's the next one here. If you could bring one
more bonus person to the beach to shake things up
that has not been on the season, who would you bring?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Hmmm?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh, how about.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Jordan's Jordans?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You mean for the Goldens?
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Why do you say that?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Because I think he was a hot commodity and I
think Leslie would dump Gary.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Well, you know what I'm going to bring to that
let's let's see what we really think here.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, I didn't think about the Goldens because so many
of them, you know, that's all. I also think they
should bring c K back. By the way, I think
he had two short a time on the beach, just
saying yeah, he's a bad one. I don't know one
bonus person. I think any of the young ones would
have been fun to stir things up. So really, any
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any any of the young ones that got close? Oh
I know, ready, yeah, Maria from Joey's season, she would
have been great. I would want to spend.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Everyone that hit the beach this summer. Who do you
think came for the wrong reasons?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, clearly Jeremy and Brian, because they're in it just
for the money. I mean the minute that money was
mentioned and they were in it. I don't think I
think all of the Goldens, including myself, came for the
right reasons. We were all hoping to find love. But
I think based on what we're seeing on the TV, Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Looked like they're ready to fall in love. I mean,
they're just in it to win it. And like I said,
since they added the money, it's a whole new ball game.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Do you do you think do you think Gary came
for love?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I would wanted to think that, yes, but now after
I've seen him play with all these women, I'm not
so sure. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, who do you think had the worst luck in Paradise?
I can tell you how about me.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You will just find Kathys luck. Who are still in
a relationship that I don't think are going to make it?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Okay, Well that's that. Get like who Jeremy and Bailey.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yes, you married? About Cat and Dale?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Cat and Dale? Yeah? I like them too. I don't know.
I'll tell you who I feel like had the worst
luck was Jill and Leah. Everybody put them in the
friend zone. Jonathan had the chance to have a relationship
with him and he kept, you know, not finding the one.
But Jill when she left saying I'm so tired of
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being in the friend zone, my heart went out.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
To her for her to what was the most shocking
moment thus.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Far, Oh that's easy, go ahead, when Jeremy said I
don't care about those golden send them home. Jeremy, I'm
coming for you, buddy. I know where you live, and
I am coming for you.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
What did you think was a shocking moment? Actually, I'm
not shocked. But when April smelled the underwear, Oh god, oh.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I forgot that. Wait, April, what were you thinking? Not
only did you sniff his underwear, you stuck it in
your bra. Come on, April, Goldens have more class than that.
Good god, I'd forgotten that.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Oh my god. So, Kathy, who do you think has
displayed the biggest red flag thus far in this season?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You know, I hate to keep picking on Brian and Jeremy,
but I'm going to keep picking on him because I
think I just I feel like they're not there. Jeremy,
when you say you're there for money, but you but
you look like you're there for love, that's a problem.
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I think. I think Kat and Dale I saw I'm
definitely looking for love. I think Alicia Alicia, I love her.
But it's a little bit of a red flag to me.
When you say I really want Dale, I want Dale,
and then he doesn't choose you, and then you say
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I'm okay with losing Dale, I also cannot. I mean,
I got a lot of red flags waving around here,
don't I What about what about Jeremy saying that red
flag man. That is ten red flags and Crimson waving.
When he says he wished Susie came back, you would
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have gotten on one knee and proposed to her, Bailey,
that is a red flag. Yes.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Do you think any of the couples are settling? What
do you think just to be together to stay on
the show?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yes? What do you think?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I do who I do? And I once again, I
don't think it's a mutual thing. I think it's only
half because I feel like Jeremy is there to play
the game. I don't feel like after this is all over,
I think Bally's going to be crushed. But I don't
know anybody else. Kat and Dale, I don't know that
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I trust it, although I do like them together.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Dale and Kat, Yeah, I like them together too. I
think Kat's got a little bit of you know, so far,
she seems like she's struggling to trust it and open
up right she doesn't. I think if she can get
past that, maybe YE do have a chance. I'm trying
to think cool. Do you think Getting the Goldens are selling?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Well? You couldn't really say settling now because you and
Teith it's not a love romance. It's a friendship, so
that doesn't even count.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
What do you think about Leslie and Gary?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Leslie and Gary? I think Leslie would be in it
to win it, I really do, and no, no, no,
in a relationship. I think she would definitely want to
develop a relationship with him, although I don't think is
really true. I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
What do you think about Kim and Faith.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I think Kim's going to be crushed because Faith is
in it right now that I see, especially after the
other night's episode, because they talked about things that were
really important and they felt each other. I'll never forget
when Nancy when they who was it that shared with
Nancy about the death of his wife and how upset
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she became. She really paid attention.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I don't know who she was talking with.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It was really and oh do you mean wait, are
you talking about Kim? Kim lost Kim? Okay, yes, yes,
Nancy was talking to Kim. But here's the thing. Is
Kim settling or is Faith settling? Because remember Kim wrote
a poem for Leslie and that didn't work out so
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well and.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Then he was fine love and if this one, don't worry,
So that settling.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Just settling for anyone who will take you.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I mean, not only to me, means they're together and
it wasn't really what they wanted, but they'll settle for this.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
It's not or or does it mean that nobody wants
me and I'll take anybody you want?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
It could whatever, tells Kim. When Jeremy said he didn't
like the Goldens being in Paradise, mine literally dropped.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Hey, your mouth. I spent a lot of time with him.
I told you I had to rewind the TV, like,
I don't care if the Goldens go home. I don't,
you know, I don't. I don't like them. Bean here,
I don't care like Jeremy. Let me just tell you something.
When you open your mouth and say things like that,
there are a lot of us Goldens who are not happy.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And it's not one to tell you the truth because
I'm on the outside looking in. Okay, when the show started,
I watched okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, And when the gold arrived,
it changed that. It brought life to the show. It
was exciting meeting and seeing everybody like yeah, so shut.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Your mouth, yeah, Jeremy, thank you. I mean you heard
it from Susan and everything that comes out of Susan's mouth.
It's worth listening to.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Hello Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Hey Susan, listening to Jeremy shut into your mouth, tell
him zip at Jeremy, you have it. I told you.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Oh my goodness, that was so much fun. Thank you
to all our listeners for joining us today, and.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
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Speaker 1 (40:45):
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Speaker 2 (40:56):
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I have a great guy.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Mm hmm
Welcome back everybody to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks
so much for joining us. We are so excited to
be back.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
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We love, love love reading them. All you have to
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay, Susan, First things first, we have got to talk
about Monday's episode of Paradise.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Oh boy, don't judge me, fans, don't judge me for
the things I'm about.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
So what's coming? Hi? Wait? Can I get in on
that too? Don't judge me? The book? Go ahead? You start?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Where should we start? We start with our girlfriend Faith, Yes,
when she said and that contest a sexy hooker.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
And the question was, I can't believe you're bringing that up.
The question was what characters would you like to play
in the bedroom? And I saw that roleplay and I
was like, oh no, not going down that road. I
would even write nurse and doctor I wrote Mickey and
middy mouth.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know, Kath, I know I saw.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And Faith wrote. What did she write again?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Sexy hooker?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Oh God, wouldn't you love to be a flan on
the wall in her bed?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I would like to try to act like a sexy hooker.
I don't think I could do it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Okay, I don't know that I found that. The thing
I have to say about Faith and Kim in this episode,
two things I want to say. One is all that
seemed to go on. There was kissing. I'm like, where's
the conversation? Do you know what?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I noticed?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
She didn't seem like she talked to any of you.
It's our Faith. We did a whole entire show with her.
She's our friend. Yet she seemed only focused on him.
And I'm only praying that when this show is over
that they're together, because if they're not, I'm going to
call you. You wanted to stay on the show. You
(02:20):
hoped on to somebody. Is that what it's about? I
mean some people do that well, Bath calling Faith, I
want to know if you're still with them.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
I will say that I was really glad that they
said because I did say that that Keith and I
are good friends. That's really important.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And the young ones knew that because one of them
was voting one of you is off because they said
they're just friends, right, But you weren't a threat to
them to win that month.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Were you surprised?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Were you surprised that Kim and Faith were voted off?
Speaker 1 (02:56):
No? No, because a few of them call them, call
them on it. Not that not said it to them,
but they were thinking, you know, this is a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah. No, I was okay, we got that, so you know,
bye bye Faith and Kim. One more thing I have
to say. I have been getting shocker some hate mail
on social media that I'm jealous of Kim and Faith
their relationship.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well because you said get a room.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Well, oh god, when he ever said bring in some oil,
I thought I was going to lose my lunch. But
let me just say, I am not jealous. There is
one little shred of jealousy. So just to put that
one to rest Faith and Kim. You yeah, not it
for me, not even a little bit. And I said
(03:49):
over and out when I saluted him, trust me.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But to me, the show was great, But the whole
show for me is. All I could think about was Brian.
And when Wells came out and made that statement, I
saluted Wells like, you are absolutely okay.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But so I'm watching this and I'm like, all I
could think of was that song from the sixties lies lies,
like if your mouth is moving your line, I mean,
here's the thing, the lies. I want you to go. Wait, Mi,
I missing something here because you were watching it back.
We know what they said, right, So Jeremy said he
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never he swore he swore to.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Bailey that he did.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
He never said he would propose to Zzusie and Leaf. Nope,
yeah he did. Check first lie. Bailey swore it wasn't
Brian who told her.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
To because she didn't want to bury Brian.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't care. It's another lie. Brian lied about not
telling Bailey. I'm like, what is going on? And so
when Wells came on, who I absolutely adore anyway, I
love you Wells, I was like, finally somebody who's making
some s. Yes, when they're talking about broke code, what
broke code?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
So that's what it's about. But if we're going to
say bro code code, the girls did know and they
told her they didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
So so I Okay, here's the thing. I think. I mean,
based on what we saw, the girls knew that. I
don't know. But as I'm watching it, I'm thinking, did
you know Alex who I adore so sweet, comforting Bailey?
(05:37):
I don't think and I don't know, but this just
from watching the show, I'm not sure that all the
girls knew that Jeremy had said he would propose to
leave the show with her. I don't think they knew
that because I think if they'd known that, I think
they would have stepped up. I mean, you and I,
(05:57):
of course were older, we would have gone right to
the person said hey, girlfriend, because you don't.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Want your girlfriends to look like a fool, that's right. However,
he came clean and agreed that he did to and
he shouldn't have, and tried to make and there to
kill there again.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
I think he felt pressure. You're saying, Brian, yes.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
No, I think Brian felt no. Jeremy oh, I felt
bad for Brian. I think Brian hats off to you.
I know the guys are going to be pissed off
at you, no bro code or whatever it is, but
you actually care about Bailey, and I want her to
be taken for a fool and you great, how about Marissa?
(06:41):
While he was saying I'm going to go tell she
was looking She looked like a deer in headlights, like,
oh well.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I don't I mean, come on, she I don't think
Priest is a confrontational person. I don't think she wanted
to get in the middle of it. And by by
association with Brian, it was probably gonna happen. But here's
the one thing that I picked up, and I was
curious if you did. When Bailey goes in and wakes
Jeremy up, and by the way, Jeremy looked irritated as
(07:06):
all get out that he was being woken up. Get up,
Jeremy and talk to the girl that you professed cares
so much about that. I was thinking that I was.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Holding on to where though I was it was crying.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
But and did you notice that Bailey was didn't wait
for answers. She's she wakes him up, She's saying, did
you do this? Did you do that? I can't believe
I thought she and she calls it scream crying. She says,
I was scream crying. She doesn't wait for his answers.
It's almost like she just wanted to vomit out yes
(07:41):
and not really hear his answers. And I was surprised
by that.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Why would you give him an opportunity to lie nobody
when you're found guilty, okay, and somebody's calling you on it,
and you know you're guilty. He was probably relieved that
she did the scream cry, but she did.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
But I'm saying she didn't give him a chance to
say yes, I said it, and when she finally did,
he lied and said he didn't do those things, and
he said he was just trying to if I heard
the TV correctly, I'm sorry, Jeremy, I'm really kind of
like losing it here when you say I was just
trying to play paradise like what you're playing with people's
(08:21):
emotions exactly.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
And I will give him, you know what, it was
early when she was there, tell the truth. You know,
I didn't know yet. I do like her, but I
didn't know how I was going to feel about you
now that we've come this far. That's all he had
to do, if that is the truth, because I'm second
guess and everything now.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's right, and you know, if you if you lie
then it's very difficult to believe anything else that comes
out of your mouth. Once you've lied to me, then
I'm not I'm not believing much of what comes out
of it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You come out here, wait to see what. But they
can't happy just.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Give a shout out to Keith? Can I just give
a shout? He told me I looked beautiful in my
red dress, and that made me feel so good. That
was I thank you, Keith, and I may he really
made me feel like a million bucks. The other thing
was I loved how Keith said there's no right choice
here who to send home. I think that is a
mature vision of no good answer.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It wasn't the possibility that you two could have left
polity absolute?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I mean, when when were you sur I was. I
was a little surprised. Although I had heard some mumblings about,
you know, the people talking about Kim's health with his
heart monitor, which you know.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And everybody assumed they were going to kick Brian off because.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I yeah, because they were mad with him. I was
a little surprised. I was grateful. I was so happy
to be there because Keith and I really have formed
a close friendship with the each other and the other
cast members really care and still do care about all
those young ones. I mean so so so, I don't know.
(10:10):
I think it's I think it's had.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Taken back about how everybody reacted to all of it.
And I'm sorry how everyone reacted to what Brian did.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Were you were surprised?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You saying that at the women? At the young women?
First of all, what does that say about somebody when
you're all angry and the guys too, they're angry because
Brian told the girl the truth? How can you be
angry at that? It's the truth.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I think when you're younger, sometimes you you know, you
want to stay in your lane and you figure they'll
work it out. I think Jeremy had said he was
going to tell her and he should have. Well, but
he only said he should have after he got caught
with pants down, no pun intended. Yes, I mean that's
(11:03):
when he told the truth, when he was forced when
you're forced into a corner, Hey did you call her? Yes?
But he still lied. He still said I didn't say
I was.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Gonna once you show to somebody like if you lied
to me, I don't know that I'll trust one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Ever again, well, that's what I just said you two
seconds ago that once you lie to me, I'm not
sure I can believe anything that comes out of your mouth.
So I think there was a lot of If we're
wrapping this one up, it's a lot of lies wrapped
up in a paradise bow. And thank you Wells for
shedding the truth.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Oh. I was so happy when he came out and
said that. I was screaming at the your day right.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah, it was rough, but you know what, I can't
wait to see, uh what happens next week. Keith and
I are holding the torch now for the goldens and
glad to be there. And you know, I can't wait
for next Monday to see what happens.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Now, You and I both you and I both.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
All right, It's time to get into today's episode, and
as always, we're going to start things off with the
question of the day. Okay, Susan, are you ready? Yes?
I am, Okay. Have you ever had a friend come
to you asking for advice and you've been totally stumped?
(12:30):
What was it like? What is your go to advice
when you're at a loss and there's no simple advice
to be given?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
What says you oh baby surprise. Stumped. Yes, because I
felt like I couldn't tell them really how I felt.
Now today, if I was asked this and this happened,
I could, But back then, I because most likely it
was about a man that I disagreed and I thought
(13:00):
he was a piece of you know what and she
shouldn't be with him. But I didn't have the heart
when they're so in love, that's that's an uncomfortable So.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, you're saying, now I
think we're about to disagree, folks. Oh boy er shocker.
Are you saying that if I came to you and
ask you for advice, you might say something that is
knowingly going to hurt me and make me feel badly.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I'm going to tell you the truth, and if that's
the case, I'll lighten it the best I can. But
I have to be real and honest.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Yes see, I'm telling you, folks, I used to be
that way. I used to be the girl that gave
one hundred percent honesty. Now I'm much more. You know,
our good friend Nancy taught me a lesson. She always says,
when something happens or people say things, think to yourself,
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how would you feel so now. When someone asked me
for advice, oftentimes I think, how is my answer going
to make them feel? And if I know that it's
going to make them feel badly, I may not be
honest because, especially our age, Susan, let's face it, we're
not going to change. We can change on the margin,
(14:20):
but we're not like the young ones on Paradise. When
they ask me for advice, I was brutally real because
they're young enough to change, right, But I just don't
think people our age.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
What if it was about a clothing option, you know
that they tried something on they felt really good about it.
Do you love this on me?
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Like? Well, I don't think you would be totally stumped.
If I said you, Susan, what do you think of
the stress? You'd say that's the ugliest thing since I
say event a toast. But I think I think.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Now me something that I stump me, well.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I don't stump for me is the wrong word. I
think you might not know how to answer something. If
I said to you, Susan, if it was a dating question,
you might not know how to answer it. But the
answer that would come to your mind might be your truth.
But for me, I might think, oh, I can't say
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that to Susan what I really because it might hurt her.
And I used to be the girl that would say it.
I think my go to advice now is more like
what Nancy says, I don't know, Susan, how do you
feel about it? I sort of turn a mirror back
and say, how do you feel?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Because that's like therapy one.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
So like if I said to you, okay, if you
said to me, Susan, should I break up because you
have one? Should I break up with my partner even
though I still love them? Or is it okay to
stay with Joe because he cheated on me? Do you
think I'm going to say to you, I'm not. I'm
going to say, I don't know, Susan, how do you
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feel about it?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I'm living it right now with Frederick's daughter.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
That's right, very and you think you and and and
what was? So for those of who my advice, what's
your advice?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
If it was the first time, okay, the second time, No, that's.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Starters going through a cheating episode with her boyfriend. Just
so we're clear with everything. No, it's I did.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Say to her, but it's up to you. Your answering
my opinion, and my opinion is no way, no.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
And what and what was her answer to you? Said
to me? She said I love him, So I would
say you have to do My answer always is what
do you have to do? What should you do? You
have to live with your decisions, think about it carefully,
and make the best decision for you. Because now, Susan,
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what I've learned is it's not my life. It's not
my life to live with a cheater and say I
love him. I'm just using that example.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
You can see it a third time. It's going to
happen and you're going to be in a better place.
Then you're going to waste another year of your life.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
And the answer is a lot of people are, but
some point there is it's not our life. Yes, they
have to learn in their own time. So I but
I will say to you when I was younger, and
mind you, I still have lots of advice that and
sometimes it's unwanted, but remember what did Let's tell everybody
what was my New Year's resolutions?
Speaker 1 (17:30):
And mine your business my own business.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And not give people advice. And I've I'm going to
give you myself an a minus. So far this year,
and believe I've.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Had kathy about this one. Yeah, I'm in love with
someone who is already in a relationship. What should I do?
That's easy to me?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Oh not not if you're in love with them. It's
the same thing as cheating if you're in love with
that first And love love is blind. It's not just
a TV show, it's an adage. Love is blind.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So what advice would you get if someone.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That I'm in love with someone who's in love with someone.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Else who's already in a relationship.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
I would say, listen. If it were you, I'd say, Susan,
I love you to pieces and I'm you're crazy. I
would say, are you out of your mind? But I understand?
But you know what you do? You coin your phrase,
you have to do you. I wouldn't do it, That's
what I would say. I wouldn't do it. But it's
not my life, sweetie, it's your life. You have to
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do what brings you happiness. And ultimately, people make their
own decisions. So I'm much more of a live and
let live girl than I used to.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And what if someone came and said, should I break
up with my partner? Even though I still love them.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
We already we just talked about that about your your
your Frederick's daughter.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yes, the answer is yes, but when.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
No, young, answer is The answer is not telling someone
what to do.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The answer is asking you. If they ask you, what
would you do right? Or your advice, that is what
they're saying.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
It's asking for your advice. And my advice always is now,
you have to do what brings you happiness and joy
and a decision that you can live with. It doesn't
matter what I would do, Susan, I'm not living your
life and that and that's me a long time to
get there, so you know, yeah, that's kind of where
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I am. And I know it's hard. What's really hard
for me, Susan, And you know this is sitting back
and watching someone living. It's like watching a horror movie
in slow motion.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Kathy comes undone.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
But you know what, I used to come undone and
say something. Now I just come undone, go pour myself
a drink and gets a bag of EM and M's
and wait for it to play out.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
All right, let's get into our fan questions for today.
I'll start yourself with the first one. Okay, okay, Sydney writes,
my husband and I are trying to have a baby.
This would be our first. However, I have PCOS, so
I'm taking medication to help us, and it is amping
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up my hormones and challenging my mental health. I don't
feel like I have much of a support system. I
feel like lately I can't even explain to my friends
about what's going on because I noticed they're not reaching
out to me, or if I try to approach the topic,
it quickly changed. I should mention none of my friends
(20:43):
are married, nor do they have kids, and the advice
for how to navigate this difficult and exciting time.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Okay, So for those of you who don't know PCOS
is polycystic ovarian syndrome. It's painful, it's not fun. There's
lots of side effects, care loss, screwing with your hormones.
It's a thing. But here's what I would say to you, said, Naith,
it doesn't matter in my opinion that your friends don't
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have kids or aren't married. I think your situation you
need a support group. That's what I would say to you.
Ask your doctor where you can find a support group
for people who are going through what you're going through,
and online support group. Listen, you can find a group
for everything online and that would be a way to
(21:33):
help you. It's not a fun situation to be in,
and I love the fact that you say it is
an exciting time because you are trying to have a baby,
and of course you want to focus on that, but
you've got a tough road to navigate and you need
people to support you. And sometimes the people that support
(21:53):
us aren't necessarily our closest friends or our families when
we have a specific condition. What do you think is also.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Your hormones are all over the place and the medication
you're taking is making it even worse. But don't be
upset with your friends. Maybe they don't understand it right
so they avoid the subject. That's nothing against you. As
Cassy said, you do need someone to talk to. Sometimes
it is your spouse or your other half. Maybe he's
(22:23):
understanding a little more because.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
And somebody sometimes it isn't. And sometimes you know, my
daughter when she first moved to Austin after grad school,
she went on Facebook for to find friends. Facebook has
groups for everything, so Sydney, I would encourage you get online.
Go to Facebook, see if you can find a support group.
(22:47):
And if nothing else, it's going to be a great
place to meet new friends.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
My daughter, I'm wishing you, we're wishing you that this
situation resolves and that you get pregnant, because there's it's
it's a great it's a great time.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
But I agree with Katy about the face group Facebook
group because my daughter, when she was having problem with
the implants like she's like ahead of she has so
many people that she talks to, she had hers taken out.
She was sick for three years and didn't know why.
So you're exactly right, Kathy. I think i'd start there
or therapy, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah, I mean Facebook, online platforms. Ask your doctor and
we wish you all the best in deals with this
a really tough situation. Okay, you're ready to move on,
here's the next one.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And by the way, Sidney, let us know we hope
that you get pregnant and we hope this situation resolves itself. Okay.
Anonymous rights, Hi, Kathy and Susan. I love your podcast.
I have never missed an episode. Well, wow, Anonymous, thank
you so much. I Oh, I know you have covered
issues with in laws in the past, and I'm having
(23:59):
some issue shoes with mine. My mother in law is
a pretty good grandmother to my children, but she isn't
so nice to me. For example, she has called a
shirt I wore hideous and joked that she wants to
murder my family and me. That's not a joke, okay,
said my baby's name is stupid in front of all
(24:21):
my guests at my baby shower. The list goes on
and on. My question to you, ladies is what do
I do going forward. I have tried every approach I
can think of. I have tried taking the high road.
I have tried simply defending myself and calling her out
on her bs. Nothing works. My husband said she has
(24:41):
had a difficult upbringing which causes her to have a
lack of social skills and there is no changing her.
He has tried talking to her as well. I'm at
a loss help. I wish one of you was my
mother in law. Love you gals, we do too.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Trust me.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
WO take you on tomorrow. You can be mine?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So you trust me?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
You're right. I had the mother in law and father
in law from hell and very similar story to you.
They loved my children, did not love me, and it
reallyps as Susan, and I told you it was really
difficult between my husband and me. My advice is try,
(25:25):
but you know what, if she's not going to change,
she's not going to change. Let your husband spend time
with her, drop the grandkids off, limit your time with her.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
As she said, she tried taking the high road. Ye,
and she's tried defending herself and calling her out on
her bs. What about like at the baby shower and
she said it's stupid, And you say something like, well,
you're entitled to your opinion, keep it to yourself. We
(25:55):
don't care what you think.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Yeah, but you can't say that a baby shower. And
I tried those things with my mother in law and
it never worked. But I will say to you, I
have to take issue with something I.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Would her husband.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, you say that, Susan, Come on the girl.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
She's going to be rude and embarrass me. Then you're
not welcome here. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
You want to years old, you're not you want to.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Go visit with your mom? She's not welcome here, not
if she's going to continue to embarrass her.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well, here's what I'm going to say. It didn't work
that way for me, and it was too disruptive and
hard for my husband, even though it was an issue
between us. Here's what I will say. I don't buy
into you, hear me, I'm emphasizing this. You know, Susan,
(26:47):
I had a really tough upbringing. I was an abuse child.
I had no modeling to be a parent until I
moved in with my step mom and my dad. I
didn't know what was up. When I had children. It
was like WHOA. I could have been abusive and horrible
like my mother. But you know what I did. I
(27:09):
sat there and got therapy and made friends and spent
my life's work to be the best mom. Did I
make mistakes? Yes, So Anonymous, you need to tell your
husband from me. Just blame on me, Anonymous. Having a
tough upbringing blah blah blah is not an excuse. And
(27:33):
she has a lack of social skills. Perhaps your husband
might suggest that she gets some social skills.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
He helped talking to her as well.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yes, but otherwise otherwise you're going to end up where
I ended up. My husband took my mother in law
for lunch. He would go over there. I saw her
exactly what.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I said, Kathy let him go visit his mother and you,
but you can't.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Say at the baby shower, get out.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Of my baby shower. But if she tells me the
name I'm choosing is dam or stupid f you who
asked you, it's not your child.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Okay, I want to be at the baby shower, Susan
where at twenty dollars? Stay where? You say to your
mother in law if you the name is Jeremiah, whether
you like it or not, I want to be there.
I want to be there.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
You're entitled to your opinion, dear, Now zip it there.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, listen, I'm the zip A queen. And I wouldn't
have said that to my mother in law. I just
chose to stay away.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
And you know, me and Kathy would be your mother
in Law's easy, we'd be fine.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I will, Anonymous. I'm going to say one thing to you.
Do you know who the big loser hair is? Anonymous?
Your mother in law. She might be a great grandmother,
but your kids will sense that it's unfortunate. But you
know what you can only change in life what you
can change. Yes, So I'm sorry for you and Anonymous.
(29:01):
If things get really tough, you reach out to me.
I will be your mother in law, my son and
daughter in law. Sorry, my son in law and my
daughter in law say I'm the best, and I think
yours think the same with you too, Susan.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I wish you a lot, a lot of luck, and
you know what you're going to be on my mind.
I wish you patience and to be able to speak
your mind when you have to.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
And I hope that you find a way to limit
your exposure to her, because you're not going to change her. Now, Okay, Susan,
Today we're going to be playing one of my favorites,
Truth or DRIC Paradise edition. We're going to switch off
(29:49):
reading the bats we're in Paradise prompt and we'll both
either answer or take a drink if we don't want
to answer, and I might take a drink even if
I do answer. Okay, I'm going to read the first one.
Who do you think went home too early and deserve
to come back to the beach? And I think we
could answer this in unison Nancy two three, Nancy absolutely,
(30:15):
I mean she was there so short twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Out of all the current couples, do you think anyone
is faking a physical connection? If yes, who, I don't
know what do you think, Well, I think since they
had added money to the game, quite possibly. I think
only half of a couple might be Come on, spit out,
(30:42):
give me names or drink Jeremy Well, Jeremy said, I
think Brian and Jeremy are both after the money I did.
But are they faking a physical connection? I think Brian maybe, Yeah,
he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
You're not your boat?
Speaker 1 (31:01):
No, I guess what is that?
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Truth? What about? What about drink? What? Any? Do you
think any Goldens are faking it? I mean, remember, I'm
not faking it because Keith and I have said from
the beginning, is anybody faking any of the Goldens faking it?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I don't think any of the Goldens are really.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Faith was making it a lot. I don't know. I
don't mind.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
That's the next one here. If you could bring one
more bonus person to the beach to shake things up
that has not been on the season, who would you bring?
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Hmmm?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Oh, how about.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Jordan's Jordans?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You mean for the Goldens?
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Why do you say that?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Because I think he was a hot commodity and I
think Leslie would dump Gary.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Well, you know what I'm going to bring to that
let's let's see what we really think here.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
How about you?
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Well, I didn't think about the Goldens because so many
of them, you know, that's all. I also think they
should bring c K back. By the way, I think
he had two short a time on the beach, just
saying yeah, he's a bad one. I don't know one
bonus person. I think any of the young ones would
have been fun to stir things up. So really, any
(32:40):
any any of the young ones that got close? Oh
I know, ready, yeah, Maria from Joey's season, she would
have been great. I would want to spend.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Everyone that hit the beach this summer. Who do you
think came for the wrong reasons?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
Well, clearly Jeremy and Brian, because they're in it just
for the money. I mean the minute that money was
mentioned and they were in it. I don't think I
think all of the Goldens, including myself, came for the
right reasons. We were all hoping to find love. But
I think based on what we're seeing on the TV, Jeremy.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Looked like they're ready to fall in love. I mean,
they're just in it to win it. And like I said,
since they added the money, it's a whole new ball game.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Do you do you think do you think Gary came
for love?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I would wanted to think that, yes, but now after
I've seen him play with all these women, I'm not
so sure. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, who do you think had the worst luck in Paradise?
I can tell you how about me.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
You will just find Kathys luck. Who are still in
a relationship that I don't think are going to make it?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Okay, Well that's that. Get like who Jeremy and Bailey.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Yes, you married? About Cat and Dale?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Cat and Dale? Yeah? I like them too. I don't know.
I'll tell you who I feel like had the worst
luck was Jill and Leah. Everybody put them in the
friend zone. Jonathan had the chance to have a relationship
with him and he kept, you know, not finding the one.
But Jill when she left saying I'm so tired of
(34:35):
being in the friend zone, my heart went out.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
To her for her to what was the most shocking
moment thus.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Far, Oh that's easy, go ahead, when Jeremy said I
don't care about those golden send them home. Jeremy, I'm
coming for you, buddy. I know where you live, and
I am coming for you.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
What did you think was a shocking moment? Actually, I'm
not shocked. But when April smelled the underwear, Oh god, oh.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
I forgot that. Wait, April, what were you thinking? Not
only did you sniff his underwear, you stuck it in
your bra. Come on, April, Goldens have more class than that.
Good god, I'd forgotten that.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Oh my god. So, Kathy, who do you think has
displayed the biggest red flag thus far in this season?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You know, I hate to keep picking on Brian and Jeremy,
but I'm going to keep picking on him because I
think I just I feel like they're not there. Jeremy,
when you say you're there for money, but you but
you look like you're there for love, that's a problem.
(35:47):
I think. I think Kat and Dale I saw I'm
definitely looking for love. I think Alicia Alicia, I love her.
But it's a little bit of a red flag to me.
When you say I really want Dale, I want Dale,
and then he doesn't choose you, and then you say
(36:09):
I'm okay with losing Dale, I also cannot. I mean,
I got a lot of red flags waving around here,
don't I What about what about Jeremy saying that red
flag man. That is ten red flags and Crimson waving.
When he says he wished Susie came back, you would
(36:30):
have gotten on one knee and proposed to her, Bailey,
that is a red flag. Yes.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Do you think any of the couples are settling? What
do you think just to be together to stay on
the show?
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yes? What do you think?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I do who I do? And I once again, I
don't think it's a mutual thing. I think it's only
half because I feel like Jeremy is there to play
the game. I don't feel like after this is all over,
I think Bally's going to be crushed. But I don't
know anybody else. Kat and Dale, I don't know that
(37:09):
I trust it, although I do like them together.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Dale and Kat, Yeah, I like them together too. I
think Kat's got a little bit of you know, so far,
she seems like she's struggling to trust it and open
up right she doesn't. I think if she can get
past that, maybe YE do have a chance. I'm trying
to think cool. Do you think Getting the Goldens are selling?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Well? You couldn't really say settling now because you and
Teith it's not a love romance. It's a friendship, so
that doesn't even count.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
What do you think about Leslie and Gary?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Leslie and Gary? I think Leslie would be in it
to win it, I really do, and no, no, no,
in a relationship. I think she would definitely want to
develop a relationship with him, although I don't think is
really true. I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
What do you think about Kim and Faith.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I think Kim's going to be crushed because Faith is
in it right now that I see, especially after the
other night's episode, because they talked about things that were
really important and they felt each other. I'll never forget
when Nancy when they who was it that shared with
Nancy about the death of his wife and how upset
(38:29):
she became. She really paid attention.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I don't know who she was talking with.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It was really and oh do you mean wait, are
you talking about Kim? Kim lost Kim? Okay, yes, yes,
Nancy was talking to Kim. But here's the thing. Is
Kim settling or is Faith settling? Because remember Kim wrote
a poem for Leslie and that didn't work out so
(38:57):
well and.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Then he was fine love and if this one, don't worry,
So that settling.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
Just settling for anyone who will take you.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
I mean, not only to me, means they're together and
it wasn't really what they wanted, but they'll settle for this.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
It's not or or does it mean that nobody wants
me and I'll take anybody you want?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
It could whatever, tells Kim. When Jeremy said he didn't
like the Goldens being in Paradise, mine literally dropped.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Hey, your mouth. I spent a lot of time with him.
I told you I had to rewind the TV, like,
I don't care if the Goldens go home. I don't,
you know, I don't. I don't like them. Bean here,
I don't care like Jeremy. Let me just tell you something.
When you open your mouth and say things like that,
there are a lot of us Goldens who are not happy.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And it's not one to tell you the truth because
I'm on the outside looking in. Okay, when the show started,
I watched okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, And when the gold arrived,
it changed that. It brought life to the show. It
was exciting meeting and seeing everybody like yeah, so shut.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Your mouth, yeah, Jeremy, thank you. I mean you heard
it from Susan and everything that comes out of Susan's mouth.
It's worth listening to.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Hello Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Hey Susan, listening to Jeremy shut into your mouth, tell
him zip at Jeremy, you have it. I told you.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Oh my goodness, that was so much fun. Thank you
to all our listeners for joining us today, and.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Be sure to follow Bachelor Happy Hour because we do
have new episode episodes coming out every week. You won't
want to miss it. This would be ripped on Jeremy
and Brian next week who knows? Who knows.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Make sure you keep submitting your questions to us. You
know how to do it. Go to Bachelor Nation dot com,
Slash Golden Hour, or DMS or Instagram at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour on the iHeartRadio
app or wherever you listen to your podcasts until next week.
I have a great guy.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Mm hmm
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.