March 18, 2025 • 42 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” Joe and Serena are recapping Grant’s Fantasy Suites episode! We kick off the episode getting into girl chats featuring Daisy Kent, Rachel Nance, and Kaity Biggar! What do the pairings tell us about Grant’s connections? Then, we dive into all the details from each of the overnight dates: Who has the best shot at claiming Grant’s heart? And, of course, we get into our thoughts on Zoe’s elimination. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to bed You're happy Hour. I'm
Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here to recap overnights.
Also something I want to just plug right at the
beginning because I will be looking at my phone because
that's where I keep my notes. But you'll be able
to see me look at my phone because these new
episodes are going to be on YouTube starting today.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, for everyone that wants to throw us on their
phone or their TV and watch us chat to one another.
You can find all of our episodes on the Bachelor
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Speaker 3 (00:32):
I have a little bit of a tan right now,
so it's just in Florida. So if you guys are
wondering if you're watching this, if you're watching, yeah, okay overnights. Overall,
what did you think of the episode?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I thought it was good, pretty standard, pretty smooth, no
shocking moments, no drama. I personally really like the sit
down chats, the girl to girl sit down chats that
they've started to incorporate into the Fantasy suitet episode.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I think it adds a little something that's necessary.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And I like to see the cameos from Bachelination favorites
and yeah, I think it's a perfect time in the
season for these moments of like supporting advice from past contestants,
because it is probably the most emotionally complicated week.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, when you put it like that, I agree.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Okay, how did you feel prior to me saying that,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I don't really I don't have anything against them. I
sometimes I'm just like, okay, Like.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
You don't feel like it adds a lot for it?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, like it's not due. But when you say it
like that, it makes a lot of sense because I
guess it is important to get advice from someone that's
done it before because you know, like it could be confusing,
so that I think that makes sense. But like as
a viewer, I'm not like popping out of my seat
to like hear this camera.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
No, I get that it's not necessarily juicy, but I
will say I feel like it's.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Very tell who they get matched up with.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I feel like you can pull a lot of information
from who is talking with who.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I also think they're gonna start switching that out.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
No, and as they should, but as of right now,
you know, it's it's given away some stuff in my
opinion on where every where the where the rankings are at.
We got a first, we got Katie Bigger who's got engaged.
We got Rachel Knanz who was third, and we have
Daisy who was second. We've got someone from every position.
So like for me, I'm like, Okay, what.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Are we trying to say here?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
How did we match up who with?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Who?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Is this giving away some predictions? Right?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well? I mean I mean first up is Juliana and
she has a call with Daisy. So are you saying
you think Juliana is number two?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I think that as of week three, I feel like
as a viewer, from this pairing and from just watching
the entire episode, Juliana is falling in that second place
spot at the moment in terms of where Grant's feelings
are at this specific week. I also think that they're
pairing people up based on similarities of their experiences, Like
we see Rachel and Zoe talk, and Rachel during her
(03:14):
Fantasy Suite week had the least time with Joey out
of all three of the girls, and Zoe's also in
that position, So it's not just like where maybe they're ranking,
but also who has something in common with who?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Didn't correct me if I'm wrong, But didn't Daisy send
herself home?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes? She did, Okay, she did, But I mean I
think had she not sent herself home, Joey would have
sent her home. Yeah, because I think he was going
to inevitably end up with Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think out of the three girls left, who I
would who I could potentially see sending themselves home would
be Zoe.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
You felt like Zoe might send herself home this week?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I I yes, I could. I thought there was a chance.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I kind of thought that going to the episode and
then hearing her talk with Rachel, I was like, Oh,
she's like way more in on this than I maybe
expected her to be.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I thought. With their date because it was like also
like so he's like, I want to get to know
him more, and they're like, you can't talk for the
yoga date, I was like, that's that could be a
that could be a problem.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Definitely problem.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But let's let's back up and start with Juliana's one
on one date. So what did you think of her
conversation with Daisy. She kind of opens up about the
fact that they have said they're falling in love with
each other, which is obviously a big deal. At this point,
and she talks to him about the fact that her
ex had.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Cheated on her a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
In her words, she said he had a bunch of
chicks on the side. Yeah, And Daisy kind of said
I saw a lot of myself and Juliana and encouraged
her to just like relax and open up. They feel
like their similarity here was they both had their guards
up on their own seasons.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, I think I and I think Juliana did that.
So I think whatever the advice Daisy gave her, I
think she put it into play, which was a thing.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I feel like all three of the girls actually put
the advice they were given into play.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I mean, for me, the I would say, if if
I was a contestant, the conversation where I would have
felt the most motivated or just like really excited to
be here was Katie. I think Katie really laid it
out like because well, she.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Had a really intense fantasy suite week and went through
a lot and still ended up with the lead, which
was Zach and they're still together and very in love,
so like that is not only the goal but just
a great person to get advice from. Yeah, but I
think Juliana and Daisy's chat was good.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It was sweet, it was good.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It kind of teased where Juliana was going to take
her one on one time with Grant, which they go
ATVing four wheeling.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
What is it is?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
An ATV? Yeah, ATV four wheel four wheeling.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I think those are different things.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I think they're the same thing. I think in a
TV is a four wheeler.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Well, yeah, it definitely has four wheels.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I just yeah, it's an a TV. It's a four wheeler.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It's like but I think an ATV is like roofless
and it's like more of like a big bike situation,
whereas this had two seats next to each other.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, Well, they were on a moving vehicle. They were Yeah,
they were splashing through the mud.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, we see we see an ATV. We're gonna call
it an at Okay, they were in a moving vehicle.
We see a lot, we see a lot of those dates.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, we've seen this date before.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know personally, like something's uh,
I mean, something's still missing for me with with these two.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
What it is? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, But because she does open up, she opens up
about being cheatd I think she opens up about like
being scared of being in a serious relationship and like
they are really and they're at the step now of engagement.
I think Grant receives the information, while I think he
(07:16):
handles it and he seems to really like her.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
No, they definitely seem to really like each other.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I agree with that, And I always say, like, I
can't even imagine how difficult this process would be for
someone who is cheated on. Let alone, it seems like
she was cheated on multiple times by this person to
then come in and have it be you're dating someone
who's dating other women, and then there's fantasy suits with
other women, Like it's gotta just feel very triggering.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I think Juliana has just been such.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
A slow burn. I think it's evident her connection is
not as developed as Lytia's. Ye, Like, when I watch it,
I feel like when I watch Juliana and Grant, I'm
watching like a developing new relationship, where when I'm watching
Letia and Grant, I feel like I'm watching two people
that have been together for a.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Very long time.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I agree, So, like it's just hard to feel like
Juliana and Grant are like endgame when I just don't
feel like they're there yet, because Julian has really only
started opening up in the last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And she's still and it doesn't it's not really giving
off that she's completely like over her past relationships and
being cheated on. I think she still I mean, I
just think she's still like struggling a little with it,
which is normal, but it doesn't like I don't know,
when she opened up to Grant, it felt like this
(08:42):
is potentially like the first guy she's opened up to,
and that's pretty like.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I see what you're saying, and I think that we
are often surprised by contestants that come on and open
up so fast so early. We're like, whoa, you know,
give it a week or two, have a little fun,
flirt a little. But I'm really seeing how late she's
opening up now. She's like she's out of that middle
pocket to where we're like, okay, he definitely really likes
her because she's opening up at a much later time
(09:12):
than we see often, Like usually this would be something
that comes out on the one on one day before
hometowns right or like during hometowns.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
But we've gone through like a lot of milestones.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But she also said that when she come on the
podcast that she's she's someone that takes a long time
to open up.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I mean, she told us in the podcast, as she
told him, I don't want to date till later, yeah,
which is which is a crazy move.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah, but I mean it's worked out for her so far.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know, he seems to maybe it, honestly, maybe her
pace aligns more with what Grant's pace is. Maybe he's
also someone that is not comfortable with all this like
intimacy and opening up until later on, and that's why
this is working.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I actually agree with that because I feel like when
Letilla starts mentioning children, there's a little bit of hesitation
from Grant m and like we don't get that from Juliana.
So that's that's a that could be a point in
Juliana's favor. I will say. Juliana said something at the
end of the date. She obviously agrees to go into
the room the overnights, and she said distance is hard
(10:17):
when he's with other girls, and like that's gotta be
if you are really in love with the lead and
you are first up, Yeah, that has gotta be almost
like next to impossible. Yeah, like that is that's that's
(10:38):
really hard.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, because you've got to kind of be like how
do I play this? Like do I do I go
all in and try to like seal the deal here
with this guy and like really be vulnerable and like
spend an amazing night together knowing that, like I've got
to now sit on that for two days wondering if
he has like developed a better connection with someone else
(11:01):
or had a better overnight with someone else, or do
I kind of hold back a little bit to protect
my own feelings and like I don't know. I feel
like the first fantasy suite might be the hardest one.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well it has to be, I mean it really has
to be.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But then the last one you're sitting all week wondering
what the hell he's doing with the other problem.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, but then you get some confirmation from him once
you're in the fantasy suite, you don't you'll at least
get a feel for it. Yeah, where when you're first up,
it could have went like it could have been the
best overnight date to that point, to that point, and
then like the next one could be better and you
have no idea and now you're sitting there spiraling.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And whereas if you're the third, you're gonna set you're
gonna be able to sense you're like if the other
ones were like amazing and he's like more reserved, or
if you know, you might be in that kind of
like leader spot and.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Like you know, it's part of the show. But there's
not one single person in the world. I mean, well,
I guess, I guess like swingers and shit, but like
there's nobody in the world that's like, oh I I
want the person I am in love with to be
intimate with intimate with someone else. Like what the fuck?
(12:15):
That's like, that's that's not an easy pill to swallow,
and it is something when you like if you agree
to go on the Bachelor or a bachelorette, it is
something that you have to be okay with but not
not easy.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
No, not easy at all, not easy at all. But
the end of the day, it seems to go well.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Juliana does say she wants Grant to be her person forever,
which I feel like is kind of the first time
I'm hearing her say that, of like, yeah, this is
like I don't know, I feel like up until this point,
I'm like, does she want to get engaged to him.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Does she not like where is she at?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And I feel like now we're starting to see her
put her foot down a little bit more and be like, no, Yeah,
he's the guy that I want.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I want to end up with him at the end
of this.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Also random Juliana Fact.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I don't know if you saw on social media this
week she was posting with Jen Tran's ex boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
What was his name?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think Zach.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
No, it wasn't Zach. It was a different white boy name.
But anyway, they were together. They obviously know each other
or now know each other.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Matt. His name is Matt.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, I remember him.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Okay, they were seen together.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Okay, Yeah, because what they're friends, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I guess they were either friends I don't know prior
to the show, or have become friends since.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
If they've become friends, since, that's super random.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
If they were friends before the show, that's just like
a crazy small world.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, I would love to hear I would love to
hear his take on the show because he had a
very strange experience.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, but I mean his strange He knew what he
was walking into with his strange experience kind of.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, yeah, but maybe it's random. I mean, that's a random,
random pairing.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I know, just thought we should call that out. Yeah,
it's just like a fun random fact.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
But anyway, jumping to Zoe Who's next, She had her
one on one chat with Rachel, who also had, as
you said earlier, the least amount of time going into
Joey's top three. I guess Kelsey and Daisy must have
both got two one on one dates.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
If that was the case Kelsey and Daisy for her.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
To have the least one on one time, or maybe
she just like I think, I think much extra time
or something.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And it was mostly just like a positive, uplifting conversation,
nothing too juicy. Rachel was uplifting, Zoe asked, you know,
saying like, you know, ask questions me intentional, but also
like have fun, enjoy it, which I think is good advice.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
People used to have more fun on the show sometimes.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, I agree, But like, if I'm Zoe and I
get Rachel, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I'm not the one, damn, especially when I hear that,
look I got Katie bigger.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
But it's not saying we like one better.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Than the other, just like Rachel went home after Fantasy
Suites and Katie is engaged.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well, if I'm Zoey, I just I'm just I'm just
going back and like just matching it up in my
head of like, oh, I have the person who also
didn't get a one on one date, who also.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh she did, Yeah, she had one date in Spain.
Remember they did that, like Spanish dancing date. Oh yeah,
yeah yeah, But like again, not a lot of time
compared to the other two, not a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Of time, and just yeah, like also goes home this week.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
If I'm zoe I'm chatting with Rachel. Great conversation. Obviously
we love Rachel. But I'm yeah, I'm putting the pieces together.
I'm going on my one one day. I'm shutting the
Fantasy Suite door, and I'm looking Grant dead in the
eye being like, am I going home this week? Like,
be so for real with me right now, because I'm not.
I'm I'm picking up what's getting put down.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
In front of me.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I believe you would do that, I know, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
No one does.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
No, I don't wouldn't do it. Maybe I think I
would because I've never been in that position.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I feel like I would.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I think you would. That's part of your personality, but
I don't think a lot of people are, like, you're
very forward.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
You're also yeah, I think you would have. You're also
somebody that probably would have been able to shut off
her feelings a little bit before, Like you would have
asked that question with like your guard up.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Well, I would have asked that question.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I would only ask that question if I was pretty
sure that I was going home.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And then if I thought I was ending up with him,
my question would be are we ending up together?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And if I was him, I would be like, you
gotta wait and see.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I know you would do that anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So Zoe says, you know, I want to leave Fantasy
Sweets knowing he's choosing me.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's my man. So all these all three of these
girls are in. All three of these girls are ready
for the proposal, which we don't always see.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Usually someone at this point is like still feeling hesitant,
still feeling unsure, And I feel like it was Juliana,
But I feel like they've all kind of gotten to
that point where they're like, all right, I just want
to know that I'm the one, and I can you know,
move into the next few weeks knowing I'm getting engaged.
But the date is quiet yoga red flag, terrible sign,
terrible sign for Zoe.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, I feel so bad for her this whole day.
She's going in being like I want to chat.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I want to I feel like he knows a lot
about me. I need to know some more about him.
And then it's like, shut up and.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Do yoga, literally, and like she clearly doesn't like yoga.
She's saying it. Grant clearly doesn't like yoga.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So not only do they have to stay mute, they're
doing an activity that neither of them enjoy.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
So they're just like silent and miserable.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, but that's also but that's a good way to bond.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's likely because you can talk about it after together
and be like, oh my god, that sucked, which is like,
you know, amazing bonding. Yeah, but I would just feel
like it was an hour of wasted time when you
get so little time in this process to be doing
something for an hour. I mean, I guess a lot
of the one on one dates aren't necessarily like calmversations,
but you can at least like laugh together and make
a joke and like kind of create like small pockets
(18:07):
of connection. I think it's hard when you're on your
own Matt, doing your own thing, not engaging.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, they were laughing a little bit, they were they
were chuckling.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, I think, I think, I you think it wasn't
that bad.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
No, And I also think, like for Zoe, it was
probably like this is like worst case scenario. And I
think when you go into something where it's like this
is like horrible.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Your expectations kind of go out the window.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, the fact that they were able to have fun
with it probably made them feel a little closer.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
That's true. That's a good way to look at it.
So then we go to the night portion.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Zoe kind of just talked about how she felt really
uncomfortable doing yoga, and you know, they bond over that,
and then she asked Grant to tell him a little
bit more about herself or sorry himself, I wrote.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I wrote Grant, So maybe we are what we are
supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Oh did she say that?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah he did say that to her face. Yeah, exactly,
right to her face.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Maybe we are what we're supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Maybe we are what we're supposed.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
To be, like basically, like this has gone as far
as it's gonna go. We're just meant to be, you know,
a couple on The Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, And I can't believe that went right over my head.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I can't believe you didn't catch that either.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And then I wrote Zoe Zoe said hard to crack
having the favorite Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's interesting, she said, I I heard that that. She
said he's hard to crack. Yeah, because I find I
think Zoe would.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Be considered someone that's hard to crack.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Oh, I think Grant's hard to crack.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
No, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
And then they also had you know they're having the
favorite color convo at this point, that's not good if
you're having the color Usually the color convo comes up
during a first date, when both parties know this is
as far as it's.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Gonna go, way down the line, like as a joke, like, oh,
what's your favorite color?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Because you know what no one has one is ever changing.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yes, yes, and like nobody cares, no one, it's.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Not it's not important. It's an important answer or question.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I could care less about your favorite color. I also
could care less about my favorite color.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
No exactly, I am that the most important part.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Not interested in colors.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
What is your favorite color? Do you have one?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It's ever changing, but I would say, like if I
had to like lock it down, like favorite color, probably
like a like a forest green?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. Thank you reminds me?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
What's that song from Frozen that Olaf sings like no no.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
No, no, no no no, you're not gonna know it?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
And then Zoe said, I don't know much about you. Yeah, okay,
so that was those that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Was you don't know much about each other. They get
a day where they can't talk, and Grant says.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Maybe we are what we're supposed to be. I think
we're we.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
As viewers are leaving this day being like, it's not Zoe.
We love you Zoe, but it's not going to be you.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
They do overnights, They have a beach morning talk. She
feels good, he's happy. I just feel like, I mean,
she goes home.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, so so we're also I guess like we could
all like, look, she didn't get a one on one date.
I personally can't move past that. I can't see the
person who doesn't get a one on one date before
hometown's ending.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Up with the lead.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
It will happen eventually.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
You think it will happen eventually.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
After twenty five seasons of The Bachelor twenty got thirty,
what are we at?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Not only do I think it happens, I think it
happens next season.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Now I hope so, I hope so that would really
throw me for a loop.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Okay, and then we have last up is Latia.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Latia and Katie. I love Katie so much. I think
she's She does such a good job in this conversation.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You're bias. I like Katie too, but she's a Canadian.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I know, guys, I'm bias towards Canadian, but that's fine.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
But Katie's Katie's great and I really like the way
she approached this conversation. She had such a zest No,
but she is. She really I like I would be.
I would have felt so good about myself and this
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experience and where I am and just feeling okay with
all that after this conversation. I think that's really important.
I kind of relate it to like just being in
Paradise when Dean and Kate came down, and I remember
I didn't think like I didn't think like I would
be affected by anything like that, but it really did
make me feel like, Okay, like this is we're in
(22:43):
a bubble. This is crazy, but like but it there
also works.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, it works. It works.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And Latia kind of talks about the fact that she
doesn't want to hear about the other dates, which obviously
is very relatable to what Katie went through. For if
you didn't watch, Zach was the bachelor during Fantasy Suites.
He declared and I'm not going to sleep with anyone,
and then Katie got the third fan or the third date,
and he told her he was intimate with someone, which
it was literally just a total massive situation. So she
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really went through the wringer. And I think Letia was like, look,
kind of the same mentality as Kati, Right, everyone goes
into Fantasy Suites with a different mentality. We really see
people on all ends of the spectrum, and Katie and
Latia seem to be aligned in their sense of like,
whatever happens happens, I don't want to know about it
because I don't want to spend our time talking about
your other relationships or for me to be mad at you.
(23:37):
I'm gonna just turn a blind eye while we're here,
and if we end up together, we will face it
together when we have, you know, unloaded time to unpack
and talk through everything that went down on this journey
in this kind of isolated, unusual experience. So I think
Letia actually left it with like a lot more confidence
and like a game plan moving forward on how she
was going to approach this date with Grant. And I
think it went really well.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, and it was. It's probably like the best game
plan you could have, Like, it's probably the healthiest approach.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, But she she calls it this is not Honesty Hour,
which I thought was funny.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
But they go on the zip line for their date.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Fun great. She gets nauseous, which is not like like
being not like being nauseous is the worst.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Worst feelings and then having a sore throat is number two.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
And then I like your date. That's both like this
is like the sexiest date of all. It's meant to be.
It's overnights, it's the first time you are potentially going
to be having sex with probably it's you know, they're
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they're you don't want to be nauseous, You don't if
you don't want to have tummy troubles.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You want to feel sexy and roman even if you're
not having sex that night. Yes, you wanted to feel romantic, intimate,
like all the things she's not feeling great. I think
it was Grant that said this that he wants to
bridge the gap from falling in love to being in love.
And I thought that was a big statement because we
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haven't seen him say that with anyone else.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, and they're hanging out by a snote so gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
This was like the lighting. They both looked amazing. She
has such good posture.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
The one thing I'm nervous about with us being on
YouTube now is everyone's going to see that I'm a hunter.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, but you know you you're You're there, you.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Go, thank you. My thought we have a cloud coach.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Letia said she would be open to moving to New
York should we move to New York. So she's really.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
She's thinking down the line.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I mean she.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Should be like he's giving her that that reassurance that
there's a good chance that they end up together, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So if I'm her, you have to start thinking down
the line, like, hey, can this actually work outside of here.
If I'm going to be the one, you know, am
I taking that step with this person with plans in place?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah? Out of all the three, out of all the
the these three women, if it's not Letia at the end,
I would say she is gonna be the one that's
the most heartbroken.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh yeah, I mean well, I mean, as a viewer,
really seems like they're locked in. Yeah, And I mean
if there was gonna be a baucherette season, and if
it wasn't Latia, I would say she is guaranteed to
be the baucherette because it is really seeming like that
is gonna be his girl, or it's gonna be a
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very very big heartbreak.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
She feels so strongly. She says Grant actually doesn't seem
into her.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
What guys, for those watching, we turned lamp on because
it's seven pm in New York City and it's getting
dark out.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Do you think Juliana would be the bachelorette if Grant
broke up with her? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I think that Juliana or Letia, who we now know
are the final two girls. I think either one of
them would be very strong bachelorettes.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean, Juliana walked out of the limo Night one.
I thought she was going to be the next Bachelorette. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I think you said that when we did our Night
one recap that you felt like she was kind of
getting a Bacherette vibe.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I yeah, I think she. I think she could definitely
also be the Bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, I just think Letia feels more emotionally.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
It's hard to tell because Tia it seems like hard
on her sleeve, right, Like Juliana definitely likes him a lot.
We just don't.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
We're just starting to see it, right, Like she's just
starting to show those emotions where Litia is like, let's
get engaged and get married and have babies and move
to New York together. So it just feels like it'll
be a more drastic heartbreak if he doesn't end up
with her, which usually makes for like a big she's
the Bacherette, like give her her redemption moment.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
With the information brought to our desk, Letia will have
the bigger heartbreak story at the end because we just
have so much more she's we are. We see that
she is fully invested, her family is all in there.
(28:29):
That was like the little bit of hesitation brand had
that's pushed to the side, so like, and you know,
let's move to New York, let's do this where Juliana
is opening up about her past relationships. At this point,
Litia has moved on and is already painting the picture
(28:52):
of the future for them. And the only other person
that did that was Priso with a fucking PowerPoint. So
those would be the two Those are the two biggest
heartbreaks of the season for me, Marisa, and potentially potentially.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Or potentially not like we know either one of them
is getting heartbroken. One of them's ending up with Grant.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Grant asks her, what is your timeline for being a
wife and motherhood? And Latia bas is like, I'm thirty one,
ideally two years I put in my notes. Grant's like,
that's way too fast. Mentally, I don't I don't know.
(29:32):
It's hard because I don't think any of us really
know where Grant is with that.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I agree with you, And it's so interesting because and
we we have seen this before, but he started the
season like I'm ready right like I want a wife,
I want kids, I want a family, And now that
it's in front of him with Latia, I don't feel
his certain tier enthusiasm about that happening in such a
(29:57):
short period of time. But that also could be because
he's undecided on who he's going to end up with
and he doesn't want to start diving into those plans
with someone that he may not propose to. But yeah,
like his energy and we can be totally off, but
his energy is kind of giving, like whoa girl?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Hold up?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Two years?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
What? Well? He doesn't like, he doesn't necessarily shut it down.
It just doesn't seem like, which is also fear like.
I mean, it's not like just because he's the bachelor.
Bachelor doesn't mean he has to have this expedited timeline.
He just I mean, he could be the bachelor, like
I want to fall in love and I want the beginning.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
He like specifically has a cast of women in their
later twenties because he has articulated that he wants to
kind of immediately move into that phase of life and
he wants a woman that is ready for it just
like he is. So I hope, and I think it's
fair to assume that he, you know, would be ready,
just like Latia is, to kind of get get aged
(31:00):
a year later, get married a year later have kids.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, and then Latia tells Grant, don't tell me about
the other girls, and he's like, I got you. I
won't do that, yeap. Would you like to join me?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
That's probably the best thing he's heard.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, he's like, that's great, amazing.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So I'm glad. Bachelor in the history that would have
ever taken that the wrong way would have been Zach
Zack would have been like, that's not that's not how
this is going to go.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I'm going to tell you everything that happened.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I need to get this off my chest. But he's like,
would you want to go? Here's my room key, and
she's like, I'll go to the room, but we're not
having sex. Yeah, And he's like I respect that, which
is what he has to say, because if he would
have said that's bullshit, people would really hate him.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
One hun and so would Letia fair you know, fair fair,
you know if people if he said that, people did
hate him for it.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Hates a strong word, but like.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Fair, No, But he seemed genuinely like I respect it,
like I'm because he responded right away and he's like,
I'm I'm totally good with that.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Do you think Grant got down with any of the
other women.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, really, what do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
What do I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I think, Yeah, definitely, I I Grant.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Is a hard read. I've actually gotten harder to read
as the season's gone on.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I do think it's important, though. I do think it's
important that Letiya still did the overnight because you, like
it is, like, are it's not a secret, Like you're
off mic, so it's the first time you're having an
off mic conversation with a person that you're potentially about
to end up with. So I think, like it would
have been foolish to be like, I don't want to
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spend the night with you, Like, I think that was important.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And I think this is so random because I was
gonna say I think it would be ridiculous to ever
turn down overnight date unless you're sending yourself home, Even
if you're not gonna be physically intimate, that does not
have to be the biggest or only part of your.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Date, or any part of your date. Okay, so the
date ends.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
With Also, just because Latilla was the only one that
said I'm not gonna be intimate with you, doesn't mean
the other girls did have sex like you could. You
also didn't have to, like it's something you don't have
to disclose. You can still go into the fantasy suite
and not bone.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You could go in open to it. You could go
in and not say anything till you get in there.
Like we don't know what the other girl's boundaries were.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
But Grant does say I love you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
He said, I feel like you're my wife and I
love you. And I went, what And she feels like
we're supposed to be together and she said, love to
me means safety, support, understanding and kindness, and I love you.
And I was like, this is a Hallmark movie and
you guys are gonna end up together or this is
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going to be a massive heartbreak.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
One hundred percent, which I need to stop saying that
I say way too much on this podcast.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
A hundred Yeah, you say one hundred percent a lot.
I awm a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
But you know, sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
If you don't want you know, you know what was
wild is I don't know the last time the lead
has said I love you unprovoked to a contestant. Usually
we see the contestants say it and then you're on
the edge of your seat. If the lead is either
going to be like, oh my god, that makes me
so happy to hear thank you, or if they're going
to say it back, or if they're gonna send them
(34:36):
home right.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I for him to.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Be like, I love you, you're my wife. If I'm letia,
oh my gosh, done deal. He's obsessed with me and
we're getting engaged.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Is where my head goes.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Well, of course, how could you not?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
But I love them together a lot. I think they seem.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Very and she's the last one to which would which
would make her feel even more confident.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Well, I'm running my ass into fantasy suite now being like,
did you say that to anyone else?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Do you love anyone else?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I think you would do that, but this is me.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Maybe it's for the best. I didn't go to fantasy feats.
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
That's aggressive.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Questions and I deserve answers.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
We go to the road ceremony. Girls are freaking He
eliminates Zoe. Yeah, uh, honestly, Zoe. She fought a good
fight uphill battle, unbelievable the whole time, very impressive, kept
a classy at the end.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Very classy.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
She started off in such a mess this season with
so much drama, crawled her way out of it pretty seamlessly,
with no impact on her relationship, made it to hometowns
without a one on one date, past hometowns, to fantasy suites,
and then left on like a really classy note.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
She was, she was the young She almost did it.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
She almost did it. She was so close.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Odds were against her. That would she is who I
would have bet in Vegas because her odds would have
been so high.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
And to go home or to be at the end, to.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Be at the end, yeah, her ods would have been
really high. And she really she made it fun to watch,
just Thederella story. But unfortunately she gone. She gone, And
then we see a little not even a preview in
the next week. I'm actually surprised they even showed it.
But Grant talking to.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
His family, Yeah, I was like, I thought it was
a preview until like two minutes in and then I
was like, oh, we're still going.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Seems like him and his dad are His dad seems
to be in a really good place. They seem to
be in a really good place. I know he's discussed
on the season about his father, you know, struggling with addiction.
But they seem to be in a great place, which
which is perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, it was really nice to see his family come
all together. You know, we know his parents are divorced,
but just to see them all sitting there so happy
and proud of Grant and just being there to support
him unconditionally was really nice.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
And I actually feel like we really got to see
just like like a real side of Grant because he
was really like to us, She's like, I'm fucking torn,
I don't know what I'm going to do, and they're
kind of like, well, that's a problem. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
He did say at the end of this episode that
because we saw you know, he said, it's Latia and Juliana.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Now, right, we're down to two. He said he's in
love with Juliana.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
He said he Caesar is his wife, and then we've
got or sorry, he said that about Latia and then Juliana.
He said, you know, they're falling in love. But he
did say I'm so close to being in love he
said someone else at this point, but we now know
as Juliana. Do I stop here with Litia and just say, like,
I'm in love with this girl, let's do it, or
do I move forward? And see if Juliana can catch up.
(37:56):
Now he's moving into dangerous territory because it's like you're
basically saying, do I leave in love with one person
or do I stick around to see if I can
get in love with two people and then make a decision,
which is going to be drastically harder. But Juliana has
been such a slow slow burn that is getting stronger.
I can totally understand why he's like, I want to
see if this can evolve into something really strong, maybe
(38:19):
stronger than what I have with Latia.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
But this is one one, and what I think I
do if Latia's first place, okay, hypothetically, hypothetically she's in first.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Okay, like right now, like leaving fantasy.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Sweet, not even leaving even before before overnights, before today.
Latia is potentially the one. Yeah, if she's potentially my one,
I feel the strongest about her. And then another woman,
Juliana is starting to like seep in and like really
(38:59):
like I'm now becoming torn. I think I go towards
Juliana because.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Right because I guess if you were so in love
with Litia, you want to be able to fall in
love with Juliana.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
That's what I think. I don't know if that's true.
That could be bullshit, that could just be like, you know,
that's could just be me, or that could just be
like what like the romantic way to think about love,
and it could all just be a bunch of fucking nonsense.
But I that's what I think.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
I don't totally disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I think if Juliana is able to catch up and
potentially even like an inch surpass where Lytia's at, you
gotta give that relationship some serious consideration because that definitely
says something about, you know, slow and steady wins the race.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
But at this.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Point, I mean, I love Juliana, we had her on
the podcast. She's so lovely, but I do see the
connection at this point with Letia and Grant looking way stronger.
So we'll have to see what happens next episode. I mean,
if you're asking me right now today, I'm saying Letia,
(40:14):
but I'm not counting Juliana out of the race yet
at all, because I do think you're right, like she
is still talking about her past relationships, whereas Lytia is
talking about the future. But I think if Juliana can
get to that point, if his family loves her, if
they have a few more like strong intimate conversations, there's
a chance for her. Because if it was gonna be Letia,
(40:35):
I think there's a good shot that Juliana will get sent.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Home next week, like early in the episode.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
You know what I mean, Like, I think he would
sleep on it and be like, no, I'm so in
love with Litia. I see a future with her. I'm
committed to her. I'm gonna let Juliana go. And if
he doesn't do that, I think that says something about
where he thinks his feelings for Juliana could go, which
is I think past Latia.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
I think it's gonna be Juliana. Really, and I think that,
like from you know, I've been saying this whole time,
Latia and him have the best connection. She's number One's.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Such a good connection.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I I think it's gonna be Juliana. I think Latia's
the bigger heartbreak. And I think Latia is still going
to be the next Bachelorette if she doesn't end up
in a relationship. Whenever that show gets picked up again,
that's my prediction.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
I would love to see her as the Bochelorette.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
I mean, but I would.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Love to see either of them. It's kind of like
a win win. Either of them would be really good.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
And yeah, that's that's that is a Bachelor Happy Hour episode.
Thank you guys for tuning in, and make sure you
download and subscribe, and make sure.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
You check us out on YouTube on the Bachelor Nation
YouTube account if you want to watch our episodes, and
we will be coming at you with a recap in
an interview after next week, which is is it Grant's
finale next week?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
It is, yeah, wow, but.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
We got to go because we're losing light people.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, it's getting dark out here.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Goodbye bye
Hey, everyone, welcome back to bed You're happy Hour. I'm
Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here to recap overnights.
Also something I want to just plug right at the
beginning because I will be looking at my phone because
that's where I keep my notes. But you'll be able
to see me look at my phone because these new
episodes are going to be on YouTube starting today.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, for everyone that wants to throw us on their
phone or their TV and watch us chat to one another.
You can find all of our episodes on the Bachelor
Nation YouTube channel watch Away.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I have a little bit of a tan right now,
so it's just in Florida. So if you guys are
wondering if you're watching this, if you're watching, yeah, okay overnights. Overall,
what did you think of the episode?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I thought it was good, pretty standard, pretty smooth, no
shocking moments, no drama. I personally really like the sit
down chats, the girl to girl sit down chats that
they've started to incorporate into the Fantasy suitet episode.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I think it adds a little something that's necessary.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And I like to see the cameos from Bachelination favorites
and yeah, I think it's a perfect time in the
season for these moments of like supporting advice from past contestants,
because it is probably the most emotionally complicated week.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, when you put it like that, I agree.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Okay, how did you feel prior to me saying that,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I don't really I don't have anything against them. I
sometimes I'm just like, okay, Like.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
You don't feel like it adds a lot for it?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Yeah, like it's not due. But when you say it
like that, it makes a lot of sense because I
guess it is important to get advice from someone that's
done it before because you know, like it could be confusing,
so that I think that makes sense. But like as
a viewer, I'm not like popping out of my seat
to like hear this camera.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
No, I get that it's not necessarily juicy, but I
will say I feel like it's.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Very tell who they get matched up with.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I feel like you can pull a lot of information
from who is talking with who.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I also think they're gonna start switching that out.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
No, and as they should, but as of right now,
you know, it's it's given away some stuff in my
opinion on where every where the where the rankings are at.
We got a first, we got Katie Bigger who's got engaged.
We got Rachel Knanz who was third, and we have
Daisy who was second. We've got someone from every position.
So like for me, I'm like, Okay, what.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Are we trying to say here?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
How did we match up who with?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Who?
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Is this giving away some predictions? Right?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Well? I mean I mean first up is Juliana and
she has a call with Daisy. So are you saying
you think Juliana is number two?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I think that as of week three, I feel like
as a viewer, from this pairing and from just watching
the entire episode, Juliana is falling in that second place
spot at the moment in terms of where Grant's feelings
are at this specific week. I also think that they're
pairing people up based on similarities of their experiences, Like
we see Rachel and Zoe talk, and Rachel during her
(03:14):
Fantasy Suite week had the least time with Joey out
of all three of the girls, and Zoe's also in
that position, So it's not just like where maybe they're ranking,
but also who has something in common with who?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Didn't correct me if I'm wrong, But didn't Daisy send
herself home?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yes? She did, Okay, she did, But I mean I
think had she not sent herself home, Joey would have
sent her home. Yeah, because I think he was going
to inevitably end up with Kelsey.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
I think out of the three girls left, who I
would who I could potentially see sending themselves home would
be Zoe.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
You felt like Zoe might send herself home this week?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I I yes, I could. I thought there was a chance.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I kind of thought that going to the episode and
then hearing her talk with Rachel, I was like, Oh,
she's like way more in on this than I maybe
expected her to be.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I thought. With their date because it was like also
like so he's like, I want to get to know
him more, and they're like, you can't talk for the
yoga date, I was like, that's that could be a
that could be a problem.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Definitely problem.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
But let's let's back up and start with Juliana's one
on one date. So what did you think of her
conversation with Daisy. She kind of opens up about the
fact that they have said they're falling in love with
each other, which is obviously a big deal. At this point,
and she talks to him about the fact that her
ex had.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Cheated on her a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
In her words, she said he had a bunch of
chicks on the side. Yeah, And Daisy kind of said
I saw a lot of myself and Juliana and encouraged
her to just like relax and open up. They feel
like their similarity here was they both had their guards
up on their own seasons.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, I think I and I think Juliana did that.
So I think whatever the advice Daisy gave her, I
think she put it into play, which was a thing.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
I feel like all three of the girls actually put
the advice they were given into play.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I mean, for me, the I would say, if if
I was a contestant, the conversation where I would have
felt the most motivated or just like really excited to
be here was Katie. I think Katie really laid it
out like because well, she.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Had a really intense fantasy suite week and went through
a lot and still ended up with the lead, which
was Zach and they're still together and very in love,
so like that is not only the goal but just
a great person to get advice from. Yeah, but I
think Juliana and Daisy's chat was good.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
It was sweet, it was good.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
It kind of teased where Juliana was going to take
her one on one time with Grant, which they go
ATVing four wheeling.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
What is it is?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
An ATV? Yeah, ATV four wheel four wheeling.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I think those are different things.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I think they're the same thing. I think in a
TV is a four wheeler.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Well, yeah, it definitely has four wheels.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
I just yeah, it's an a TV. It's a four wheeler.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It's like but I think an ATV is like roofless
and it's like more of like a big bike situation,
whereas this had two seats next to each other.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, Well, they were on a moving vehicle. They were Yeah,
they were splashing through the mud.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, we see we see an ATV. We're gonna call
it an at Okay, they were in a moving vehicle.
We see a lot, we see a lot of those dates.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Yeah, we've seen this date before.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Yeah, I don't. I don't know personally, like something's uh,
I mean, something's still missing for me with with these two.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
What it is? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Yeah, But because she does open up, she opens up
about being cheatd I think she opens up about like
being scared of being in a serious relationship and like
they are really and they're at the step now of engagement.
I think Grant receives the information, while I think he
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handles it and he seems to really like her.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
No, they definitely seem to really like each other.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I agree with that, And I always say, like, I
can't even imagine how difficult this process would be for
someone who is cheated on. Let alone, it seems like
she was cheated on multiple times by this person to
then come in and have it be you're dating someone
who's dating other women, and then there's fantasy suits with
other women, Like it's gotta just feel very triggering.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I think Juliana has just been such.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
A slow burn. I think it's evident her connection is
not as developed as Lytia's. Ye, Like, when I watch it,
I feel like when I watch Juliana and Grant, I'm
watching like a developing new relationship, where when I'm watching
Letia and Grant, I feel like I'm watching two people
that have been together for a.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Very long time.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I agree, So, like it's just hard to feel like
Juliana and Grant are like endgame when I just don't
feel like they're there yet, because Julian has really only
started opening up in the last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And she's still and it doesn't it's not really giving
off that she's completely like over her past relationships and
being cheated on. I think she still I mean, I
just think she's still like struggling a little with it,
which is normal, but it doesn't like I don't know,
when she opened up to Grant, it felt like this
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is potentially like the first guy she's opened up to,
and that's pretty like.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I see what you're saying, and I think that we
are often surprised by contestants that come on and open
up so fast so early. We're like, whoa, you know,
give it a week or two, have a little fun,
flirt a little. But I'm really seeing how late she's
opening up now. She's like she's out of that middle
pocket to where we're like, okay, he definitely really likes
her because she's opening up at a much later time
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than we see often, Like usually this would be something
that comes out on the one on one day before
hometowns right or like during hometowns.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
But we've gone through like a lot of milestones.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
But she also said that when she come on the
podcast that she's she's someone that takes a long time
to open up.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I mean, she told us in the podcast, as she
told him, I don't want to date till later, yeah,
which is which is a crazy move.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah, but I mean it's worked out for her so far.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You know, he seems to maybe it, honestly, maybe her
pace aligns more with what Grant's pace is. Maybe he's
also someone that is not comfortable with all this like
intimacy and opening up until later on, and that's why
this is working.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I actually agree with that because I feel like when
Letilla starts mentioning children, there's a little bit of hesitation
from Grant m and like we don't get that from Juliana.
So that's that's a that could be a point in
Juliana's favor. I will say. Juliana said something at the
end of the date. She obviously agrees to go into
the room the overnights, and she said distance is hard
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when he's with other girls, and like that's gotta be
if you are really in love with the lead and
you are first up, Yeah, that has gotta be almost
like next to impossible. Yeah, like that is that's that's
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really hard.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Well, because you've got to kind of be like how
do I play this? Like do I do I go
all in and try to like seal the deal here
with this guy and like really be vulnerable and like
spend an amazing night together knowing that, like I've got
to now sit on that for two days wondering if
he has like developed a better connection with someone else
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or had a better overnight with someone else, or do
I kind of hold back a little bit to protect
my own feelings and like I don't know. I feel
like the first fantasy suite might be the hardest one.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well it has to be, I mean it really has
to be.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
But then the last one you're sitting all week wondering
what the hell he's doing with the other problem.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, but then you get some confirmation from him once
you're in the fantasy suite, you don't you'll at least
get a feel for it. Yeah, where when you're first up,
it could have went like it could have been the
best overnight date to that point, to that point, and
then like the next one could be better and you
have no idea and now you're sitting there spiraling.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
And whereas if you're the third, you're gonna set you're
gonna be able to sense you're like if the other
ones were like amazing and he's like more reserved, or
if you know, you might be in that kind of
like leader spot and.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Like you know, it's part of the show. But there's
not one single person in the world. I mean, well,
I guess, I guess like swingers and shit, but like
there's nobody in the world that's like, oh I I
want the person I am in love with to be
intimate with intimate with someone else. Like what the fuck?
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That's like, that's that's not an easy pill to swallow,
and it is something when you like if you agree
to go on the Bachelor or a bachelorette, it is
something that you have to be okay with but not
not easy.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
No, not easy at all, not easy at all. But
the end of the day, it seems to go well.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Juliana does say she wants Grant to be her person forever,
which I feel like is kind of the first time
I'm hearing her say that, of like, yeah, this is
like I don't know, I feel like up until this point,
I'm like, does she want to get engaged to him.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Does she not like where is she at?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And I feel like now we're starting to see her
put her foot down a little bit more and be like, no, Yeah,
he's the guy that I want.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I want to end up with him at the end
of this.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Also random Juliana Fact.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
I don't know if you saw on social media this
week she was posting with Jen Tran's ex boyfriend.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
What was his name?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I think Zach.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
No, it wasn't Zach. It was a different white boy name.
But anyway, they were together. They obviously know each other
or now know each other.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Matt. His name is Matt.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, I remember him.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Okay, they were seen together.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Okay, Yeah, because what they're friends, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I guess they were either friends I don't know prior
to the show, or have become friends since.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
If they've become friends, since, that's super random.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
If they were friends before the show, that's just like
a crazy small world.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Yeah, I would love to hear I would love to
hear his take on the show because he had a
very strange experience.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, but I mean his strange He knew what he
was walking into with his strange experience kind of.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, yeah, but maybe it's random. I mean, that's a random,
random pairing.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I know, just thought we should call that out. Yeah,
it's just like a fun random fact.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
But anyway, jumping to Zoe Who's next, She had her
one on one chat with Rachel, who also had, as
you said earlier, the least amount of time going into
Joey's top three. I guess Kelsey and Daisy must have
both got two one on one dates.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
If that was the case Kelsey and Daisy for her.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
To have the least one on one time, or maybe
she just like I think, I think much extra time
or something.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, maybe maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And it was mostly just like a positive, uplifting conversation,
nothing too juicy. Rachel was uplifting, Zoe asked, you know,
saying like, you know, ask questions me intentional, but also
like have fun, enjoy it, which I think is good advice.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
People used to have more fun on the show sometimes.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yeah, I agree, But like, if I'm Zoe and I
get Rachel, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
I'm not the one, damn, especially when I hear that,
look I got Katie bigger.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
But it's not saying we like one better.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Than the other, just like Rachel went home after Fantasy
Suites and Katie is engaged.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well, if I'm Zoey, I just I'm just I'm just
going back and like just matching it up in my
head of like, oh, I have the person who also
didn't get a one on one date, who also.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Oh she did, Yeah, she had one date in Spain.
Remember they did that, like Spanish dancing date. Oh yeah,
yeah yeah, But like again, not a lot of time
compared to the other two, not a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Of time, and just yeah, like also goes home this week.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
If I'm zoe I'm chatting with Rachel. Great conversation. Obviously
we love Rachel. But I'm yeah, I'm putting the pieces together.
I'm going on my one one day. I'm shutting the
Fantasy Suite door, and I'm looking Grant dead in the
eye being like, am I going home this week? Like,
be so for real with me right now, because I'm not.
I'm I'm picking up what's getting put down.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
In front of me.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I believe you would do that, I know, but I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
No one does.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
No, I don't wouldn't do it. Maybe I think I
would because I've never been in that position.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I feel like I would.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I think you would. That's part of your personality, but
I don't think a lot of people are, like, you're
very forward.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
You're also yeah, I think you would have. You're also
somebody that probably would have been able to shut off
her feelings a little bit before, Like you would have
asked that question with like your guard up.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Well, I would have asked that question.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
I would only ask that question if I was pretty
sure that I was going home.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
And then if I thought I was ending up with him,
my question would be are we ending up together?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
And if I was him, I would be like, you
gotta wait and see.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
I know you would do that anyway.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
So Zoe says, you know, I want to leave Fantasy
Sweets knowing he's choosing me.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
That's my man. So all these all three of these
girls are in. All three of these girls are ready
for the proposal, which we don't always see.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Usually someone at this point is like still feeling hesitant,
still feeling unsure, And I feel like it was Juliana,
But I feel like they've all kind of gotten to
that point where they're like, all right, I just want
to know that I'm the one, and I can you know,
move into the next few weeks knowing I'm getting engaged.
But the date is quiet yoga red flag, terrible sign,
terrible sign for Zoe.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, I feel so bad for her this whole day.
She's going in being like I want to chat.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I want to I feel like he knows a lot
about me. I need to know some more about him.
And then it's like, shut up and.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Do yoga, literally, and like she clearly doesn't like yoga.
She's saying it. Grant clearly doesn't like yoga.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
So not only do they have to stay mute, they're
doing an activity that neither of them enjoy.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
So they're just like silent and miserable.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, but that's also but that's a good way to bond.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's likely because you can talk about it after together
and be like, oh my god, that sucked, which is like,
you know, amazing bonding. Yeah, but I would just feel
like it was an hour of wasted time when you
get so little time in this process to be doing
something for an hour. I mean, I guess a lot
of the one on one dates aren't necessarily like calmversations,
but you can at least like laugh together and make
a joke and like kind of create like small pockets
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of connection. I think it's hard when you're on your
own Matt, doing your own thing, not engaging.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, they were laughing a little bit, they were they
were chuckling.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, I think, I think, I you think it wasn't
that bad.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
No, And I also think, like for Zoe, it was
probably like this is like worst case scenario. And I
think when you go into something where it's like this
is like horrible.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Your expectations kind of go out the window.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, the fact that they were able to have fun
with it probably made them feel a little closer.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
That's true. That's a good way to look at it.
So then we go to the night portion.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Zoe kind of just talked about how she felt really
uncomfortable doing yoga, and you know, they bond over that,
and then she asked Grant to tell him a little
bit more about herself or sorry himself, I wrote.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I wrote Grant, So maybe we are what we are
supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Oh did she say that?
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Yeah he did say that to her face. Yeah, exactly,
right to her face.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Maybe we are what we're supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Maybe we are what we're supposed.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
To be, like basically, like this has gone as far
as it's gonna go. We're just meant to be, you know,
a couple on The Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, And I can't believe that went right over my head.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I can't believe you didn't catch that either.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
And then I wrote Zoe Zoe said hard to crack
having the favorite Oh.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
It's interesting, she said, I I heard that that. She
said he's hard to crack. Yeah, because I find I
think Zoe would.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Be considered someone that's hard to crack.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Oh, I think Grant's hard to crack.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
No, I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
And then they also had you know they're having the
favorite color convo at this point, that's not good if
you're having the color Usually the color convo comes up
during a first date, when both parties know this is
as far as it's.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Gonna go, way down the line, like as a joke, like, oh,
what's your favorite color?
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Because you know what no one has one is ever changing.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yes, yes, and like nobody cares, no one, it's.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Not it's not important. It's an important answer or question.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I could care less about your favorite color. I also
could care less about my favorite color.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
No exactly, I am that the most important part.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Not interested in colors.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
What is your favorite color? Do you have one?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
It's ever changing, but I would say, like if I
had to like lock it down, like favorite color, probably
like a like a forest green?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. Thank you reminds me?
Speaker 2 (20:40):
What's that song from Frozen that Olaf sings like no no.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
No, no, no no no, you're not gonna know it?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
And then Zoe said, I don't know much about you. Yeah, okay,
so that was those that.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Was you don't know much about each other. They get
a day where they can't talk, and Grant says.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Maybe we are what we're supposed to be. I think
we're we.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
As viewers are leaving this day being like, it's not Zoe.
We love you Zoe, but it's not going to be you.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
They do overnights, They have a beach morning talk. She
feels good, he's happy. I just feel like, I mean,
she goes home.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, so so we're also I guess like we could
all like, look, she didn't get a one on one date.
I personally can't move past that. I can't see the
person who doesn't get a one on one date before
hometown's ending.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Up with the lead.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
It will happen eventually.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
You think it will happen eventually.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
After twenty five seasons of The Bachelor twenty got thirty,
what are we at?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Not only do I think it happens, I think it
happens next season.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Now I hope so, I hope so that would really
throw me for a loop.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Okay, and then we have last up is Latia.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Latia and Katie. I love Katie so much. I think
she's She does such a good job in this conversation.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
You're bias. I like Katie too, but she's a Canadian.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I know, guys, I'm bias towards Canadian, but that's fine.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
But Katie's Katie's great and I really like the way
she approached this conversation. She had such a zest No,
but she is. She really I like I would be.
I would have felt so good about myself and this
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experience and where I am and just feeling okay with
all that after this conversation. I think that's really important.
I kind of relate it to like just being in
Paradise when Dean and Kate came down, and I remember
I didn't think like I didn't think like I would
be affected by anything like that, but it really did
make me feel like, Okay, like this is we're in
(22:43):
a bubble. This is crazy, but like but it there
also works.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah, it works. It works.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And Latia kind of talks about the fact that she
doesn't want to hear about the other dates, which obviously
is very relatable to what Katie went through. For if
you didn't watch, Zach was the bachelor during Fantasy Suites.
He declared and I'm not going to sleep with anyone,
and then Katie got the third fan or the third date,
and he told her he was intimate with someone, which
it was literally just a total massive situation. So she
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really went through the wringer. And I think Letia was like, look,
kind of the same mentality as Kati, Right, everyone goes
into Fantasy Suites with a different mentality. We really see
people on all ends of the spectrum, and Katie and
Latia seem to be aligned in their sense of like,
whatever happens happens, I don't want to know about it
because I don't want to spend our time talking about
your other relationships or for me to be mad at you.
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I'm gonna just turn a blind eye while we're here,
and if we end up together, we will face it
together when we have, you know, unloaded time to unpack
and talk through everything that went down on this journey
in this kind of isolated, unusual experience. So I think
Letia actually left it with like a lot more confidence
and like a game plan moving forward on how she
was going to approach this date with Grant. And I
think it went really well.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Yeah, and it was. It's probably like the best game
plan you could have, Like, it's probably the healthiest approach.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I think so too.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, But she she calls it this is not Honesty Hour,
which I thought was funny.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
But they go on the zip line for their date.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Fun great. She gets nauseous, which is not like like
being not like being nauseous is the worst.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Worst feelings and then having a sore throat is number two.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
And then I like your date. That's both like this
is like the sexiest date of all. It's meant to be.
It's overnights, it's the first time you are potentially going
to be having sex with probably it's you know, they're
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they're you don't want to be nauseous, You don't if
you don't want to have tummy troubles.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You want to feel sexy and roman even if you're
not having sex that night. Yes, you wanted to feel romantic, intimate,
like all the things she's not feeling great. I think
it was Grant that said this that he wants to
bridge the gap from falling in love to being in love.
And I thought that was a big statement because we
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haven't seen him say that with anyone else.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, and they're hanging out by a snote so gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
This was like the lighting. They both looked amazing. She
has such good posture.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
The one thing I'm nervous about with us being on
YouTube now is everyone's going to see that I'm a hunter.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, but you know you you're You're there, you.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Go, thank you. My thought we have a cloud coach.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Letia said she would be open to moving to New
York should we move to New York. So she's really.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
She's thinking down the line.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I mean she.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Should be like he's giving her that that reassurance that
there's a good chance that they end up together, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So if I'm her, you have to start thinking down
the line, like, hey, can this actually work outside of here.
If I'm going to be the one, you know, am
I taking that step with this person with plans in place?
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah? Out of all the three, out of all the
the these three women, if it's not Letia at the end,
I would say she is gonna be the one that's
the most heartbroken.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Oh yeah, I mean well, I mean, as a viewer,
really seems like they're locked in. Yeah, And I mean
if there was gonna be a baucherette season, and if
it wasn't Latia, I would say she is guaranteed to
be the baucherette because it is really seeming like that
is gonna be his girl, or it's gonna be a
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very very big heartbreak.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
She feels so strongly. She says Grant actually doesn't seem
into her.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
What guys, for those watching, we turned lamp on because
it's seven pm in New York City and it's getting
dark out.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Do you think Juliana would be the bachelorette if Grant
broke up with her? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:06):
I think that Juliana or Letia, who we now know
are the final two girls. I think either one of
them would be very strong bachelorettes.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean, Juliana walked out of the limo Night one.
I thought she was going to be the next Bachelorette. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I think you said that when we did our Night
one recap that you felt like she was kind of
getting a Bacherette vibe.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I yeah, I think she. I think she could definitely
also be the Bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Yeah, I just think Letia feels more emotionally.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
It's hard to tell because Tia it seems like hard
on her sleeve, right, Like Juliana definitely likes him a lot.
We just don't.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
We're just starting to see it, right, Like she's just
starting to show those emotions where Litia is like, let's
get engaged and get married and have babies and move
to New York together. So it just feels like it'll
be a more drastic heartbreak if he doesn't end up
with her, which usually makes for like a big she's
the Bacherette, like give her her redemption moment.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
With the information brought to our desk, Letia will have
the bigger heartbreak story at the end because we just
have so much more she's we are. We see that
she is fully invested, her family is all in there.
(28:29):
That was like the little bit of hesitation brand had
that's pushed to the side, so like, and you know,
let's move to New York, let's do this where Juliana
is opening up about her past relationships. At this point,
Litia has moved on and is already painting the picture
(28:52):
of the future for them. And the only other person
that did that was Priso with a fucking PowerPoint. So
those would be the two Those are the two biggest
heartbreaks of the season for me, Marisa, and potentially potentially.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Or potentially not like we know either one of them
is getting heartbroken. One of them's ending up with Grant.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Grant asks her, what is your timeline for being a
wife and motherhood? And Latia bas is like, I'm thirty one,
ideally two years I put in my notes. Grant's like,
that's way too fast. Mentally, I don't I don't know.
(29:32):
It's hard because I don't think any of us really
know where Grant is with that.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
I agree with you, And it's so interesting because and
we we have seen this before, but he started the
season like I'm ready right like I want a wife,
I want kids, I want a family, And now that
it's in front of him with Latia, I don't feel
his certain tier enthusiasm about that happening in such a
(29:57):
short period of time. But that also could be because
he's undecided on who he's going to end up with
and he doesn't want to start diving into those plans
with someone that he may not propose to. But yeah,
like his energy and we can be totally off, but
his energy is kind of giving, like whoa girl?
Speaker 4 (30:15):
Hold up?
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:16):
Two years?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
What? Well? He doesn't like, he doesn't necessarily shut it down.
It just doesn't seem like, which is also fear like.
I mean, it's not like just because he's the bachelor.
Bachelor doesn't mean he has to have this expedited timeline.
He just I mean, he could be the bachelor, like
I want to fall in love and I want the beginning.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
He like specifically has a cast of women in their
later twenties because he has articulated that he wants to
kind of immediately move into that phase of life and
he wants a woman that is ready for it just
like he is. So I hope, and I think it's
fair to assume that he, you know, would be ready,
just like Latia is, to kind of get get aged
(31:00):
a year later, get married a year later have kids.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, and then Latia tells Grant, don't tell me about
the other girls, and he's like, I got you. I
won't do that, yeap. Would you like to join me?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
That's probably the best thing he's heard.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, he's like, that's great, amazing.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So I'm glad. Bachelor in the history that would have
ever taken that the wrong way would have been Zach
Zack would have been like, that's not that's not how
this is going to go.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
I'm going to tell you everything that happened.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I need to get this off my chest. But he's like,
would you want to go? Here's my room key, and
she's like, I'll go to the room, but we're not
having sex. Yeah, And he's like I respect that, which
is what he has to say, because if he would
have said that's bullshit, people would really hate him.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
One hun and so would Letia fair you know, fair fair,
you know if people if he said that, people did
hate him for it.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Hates a strong word, but like.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Fair, No, But he seemed genuinely like I respect it,
like I'm because he responded right away and he's like,
I'm I'm totally good with that.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Do you think Grant got down with any of the
other women.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, really, what do you mean? What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
What do I mean?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I think, Yeah, definitely, I I Grant.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Is a hard read. I've actually gotten harder to read
as the season's gone on.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
I do think it's important, though. I do think it's
important that Letiya still did the overnight because you, like
it is, like, are it's not a secret, Like you're
off mic, so it's the first time you're having an
off mic conversation with a person that you're potentially about
to end up with. So I think, like it would
have been foolish to be like, I don't want to
(32:53):
spend the night with you, Like, I think that was important.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
And I think this is so random because I was
gonna say I think it would be ridiculous to ever
turn down overnight date unless you're sending yourself home, Even
if you're not gonna be physically intimate, that does not
have to be the biggest or only part of your.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Date, or any part of your date. Okay, so the
date ends.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
With Also, just because Latilla was the only one that
said I'm not gonna be intimate with you, doesn't mean
the other girls did have sex like you could. You
also didn't have to, like it's something you don't have
to disclose. You can still go into the fantasy suite
and not bone.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
You could go in open to it. You could go
in and not say anything till you get in there.
Like we don't know what the other girl's boundaries were.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
But Grant does say I love you.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
He said, I feel like you're my wife and I
love you. And I went, what And she feels like
we're supposed to be together and she said, love to
me means safety, support, understanding and kindness, and I love you.
And I was like, this is a Hallmark movie and
you guys are gonna end up together or this is
(34:02):
going to be a massive heartbreak.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
One hundred percent, which I need to stop saying that
I say way too much on this podcast.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
A hundred Yeah, you say one hundred percent a lot.
I awm a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
But you know, sorry, guys.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
If you don't want you know, you know what was
wild is I don't know the last time the lead
has said I love you unprovoked to a contestant. Usually
we see the contestants say it and then you're on
the edge of your seat. If the lead is either
going to be like, oh my god, that makes me
so happy to hear thank you, or if they're going
to say it back, or if they're gonna send them
(34:36):
home right.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I for him to.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Be like, I love you, you're my wife. If I'm letia,
oh my gosh, done deal. He's obsessed with me and
we're getting engaged.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Is where my head goes.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Well, of course, how could you not?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
But I love them together a lot. I think they seem.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Very and she's the last one to which would which
would make her feel even more confident.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Well, I'm running my ass into fantasy suite now being like,
did you say that to anyone else?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Do you love anyone else?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
I think you would do that, but this is me.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Maybe it's for the best. I didn't go to fantasy feats.
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
That's aggressive.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Questions and I deserve answers.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
We go to the road ceremony. Girls are freaking He
eliminates Zoe. Yeah, uh, honestly, Zoe. She fought a good
fight uphill battle, unbelievable the whole time, very impressive, kept
a classy at the end.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Very classy.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
She started off in such a mess this season with
so much drama, crawled her way out of it pretty seamlessly,
with no impact on her relationship, made it to hometowns
without a one on one date, past hometowns, to fantasy suites,
and then left on like a really classy note.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
She was, she was the young She almost did it.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
She almost did it. She was so close.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Odds were against her. That would she is who I
would have bet in Vegas because her odds would have
been so high.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
And to go home or to be at the end, to.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Be at the end, yeah, her ods would have been
really high. And she really she made it fun to watch,
just Thederella story. But unfortunately she gone. She gone, And
then we see a little not even a preview in
the next week. I'm actually surprised they even showed it.
But Grant talking to.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
His family, Yeah, I was like, I thought it was
a preview until like two minutes in and then I
was like, oh, we're still going.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Seems like him and his dad are His dad seems
to be in a really good place. They seem to
be in a really good place. I know he's discussed
on the season about his father, you know, struggling with addiction.
But they seem to be in a great place, which
which is perfect timing.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, it was really nice to see his family come
all together. You know, we know his parents are divorced,
but just to see them all sitting there so happy
and proud of Grant and just being there to support
him unconditionally was really nice.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
And I actually feel like we really got to see
just like like a real side of Grant because he
was really like to us, She's like, I'm fucking torn,
I don't know what I'm going to do, and they're
kind of like, well, that's a problem. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
He did say at the end of this episode that
because we saw you know, he said, it's Latia and Juliana.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Now, right, we're down to two. He said he's in
love with Juliana.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
He said he Caesar is his wife, and then we've
got or sorry, he said that about Latia and then Juliana.
He said, you know, they're falling in love. But he
did say I'm so close to being in love he
said someone else at this point, but we now know
as Juliana. Do I stop here with Litia and just say, like,
I'm in love with this girl, let's do it, or
do I move forward? And see if Juliana can catch up.
(37:56):
Now he's moving into dangerous territory because it's like you're
basically saying, do I leave in love with one person
or do I stick around to see if I can
get in love with two people and then make a decision,
which is going to be drastically harder. But Juliana has
been such a slow slow burn that is getting stronger.
I can totally understand why he's like, I want to
see if this can evolve into something really strong, maybe
(38:19):
stronger than what I have with Latia.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
But this is one one, and what I think I
do if Latia's first place, okay, hypothetically, hypothetically she's in first.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Okay, like right now, like leaving fantasy.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Sweet, not even leaving even before before overnights, before today.
Latia is potentially the one. Yeah, if she's potentially my one,
I feel the strongest about her. And then another woman,
Juliana is starting to like seep in and like really
(38:59):
like I'm now becoming torn. I think I go towards
Juliana because.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Right because I guess if you were so in love
with Litia, you want to be able to fall in
love with Juliana.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
That's what I think. I don't know if that's true.
That could be bullshit, that could just be like, you know,
that's could just be me, or that could just be
like what like the romantic way to think about love,
and it could all just be a bunch of fucking nonsense.
But I that's what I think.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
I don't totally disagree with you.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I think if Juliana is able to catch up and
potentially even like an inch surpass where Lytia's at, you
gotta give that relationship some serious consideration because that definitely
says something about, you know, slow and steady wins the race.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
But at this.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Point, I mean, I love Juliana, we had her on
the podcast. She's so lovely, but I do see the
connection at this point with Letia and Grant looking way stronger.
So we'll have to see what happens next episode. I mean,
if you're asking me right now today, I'm saying Letia,
(40:14):
but I'm not counting Juliana out of the race yet
at all, because I do think you're right, like she
is still talking about her past relationships, whereas Lytia is
talking about the future. But I think if Juliana can
get to that point, if his family loves her, if
they have a few more like strong intimate conversations, there's
a chance for her. Because if it was gonna be Letia,
(40:35):
I think there's a good shot that Juliana will get sent.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Home next week, like early in the episode.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
You know what I mean, Like, I think he would
sleep on it and be like, no, I'm so in
love with Litia. I see a future with her. I'm
committed to her. I'm gonna let Juliana go. And if
he doesn't do that, I think that says something about
where he thinks his feelings for Juliana could go, which
is I think past Latia.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
I think it's gonna be Juliana. Really, and I think that,
like from you know, I've been saying this whole time,
Latia and him have the best connection. She's number One's.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Such a good connection.
Speaker 3 (41:12):
I I think it's gonna be Juliana. I think Latia's
the bigger heartbreak. And I think Latia is still going
to be the next Bachelorette if she doesn't end up
in a relationship. Whenever that show gets picked up again,
that's my prediction.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
I would love to see her as the Bochelorette.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
I mean, but I would.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
Love to see either of them. It's kind of like
a win win. Either of them would be really good.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
And yeah, that's that's that is a Bachelor Happy Hour episode.
Thank you guys for tuning in, and make sure you
download and subscribe, and make sure.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
You check us out on YouTube on the Bachelor Nation
YouTube account if you want to watch our episodes, and
we will be coming at you with a recap in
an interview after next week, which is is it Grant's
finale next week?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
It is, yeah, wow, but.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
We got to go because we're losing light people.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, it's getting dark out here.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Goodbye bye
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