May 29, 2025 • 40 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” we have beloved Bachelor Nation couple Kevin and Astrid joining us! We’re diving right into all their updates, and we kick it off by chatting about their two kids. Kevin opens up about their recent CPR scare with one of their children, including how sharing their story helped save a fan’s little one! They also get into their favorite lighthearted moments with their kids — they’re learning the hard way what happens when you curse around them! We also discuss Kevin’s extensive reality TV experience, including his time on “The Traitors Canada.” Plus, we get their thoughts on this upcoming season of “Paradise” and what they hope to see. Tune in now and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to bet your Happy Hour. I'm
Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here today with
two lovely guests, Astrad and Kevin. Hi, guys, hey, welcome, Welcome.
Before we get into anything, I do want to just
throw this out there. Seven game, sevens in a row,
(00:23):
seven times, seven losses the Toronto Maple Leafs. How do you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Feel it's just a lifestyle at this point?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's actually long? We actually, Astrad, you lived in Florida
for a while, so was there like, were you somewhat
charing for Florida or no?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So I had only been to like one or two
hockey games before I ever met Kevin, so I instantly
became a Leafs fan. And now I'm seven years into
just being disappointed year after year and realizing this is
just the way.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My kids are going to grow up.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Have you guys been together for seven years?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Yeah? Seven years? It would have been Joe was the paradise.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Doesn't feel like a coincidence that ever since you guys
have been together, the Leafs are losing in game seven.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
So I thought it was gonna be a fun podcast.
I know we were going deep and like, yeah, right away,
right off there.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's heartbreaking being a Leaf fan.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
It is like game offs.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
Game off remote slammed me taking the dogs out halfway
through the second period.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Didn't even turn it back on again. I just yeah,
I know it too.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, yeah, brutal. So yes, you guys will get into it.
But you guys, you met on Bachelor in Paradise, Astra.
You were on Nick Faiel's season, Kevin, you were on
the first Bachelorette Canada.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Correct, Yeah, yeah, and then I did the Bachelor Winter Games.
That's when I went over to the ABC side.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, let's well, we'll get into that too, But what
before we do? What's new with you guys anything.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We're just in like the thick of it with good stuff.
I feel like we are just two hundred three so
on screw and a half and Nash is a year
and a half.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
And it's just so you're just like in the trenches.
This is like every days of the war.
Speaker 7 (02:03):
You like start you start with like a pep talk
at the start of the day, and at the end
of the day, it's like a glass of wine and like,
all right, that was a good day or a bad day.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Let's start again tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Anybody who says parents, I think it's the hardest thing
I've ever experienced, and I've done a lot. I think
I'm a stay at home mom, like I worked twenty
four hours yesterday. When she's at home with the two,
I'm like, I can't believe that people undersell this and
say it's oh, motherhood is so great. It is the
hardest job. No more sugarcoating. It is incredible. If you're
a good mother, is the best job ever.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, well why have two? Why not? Sty? I heard
I heard like one from like my my friends i'd
have kids. I heard like one's easy, like it will
easier one, and then when you get when you have two,
it's just like that's it game over, Like.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well you're now it's just one on one.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Right when we just had Augie, it was one of
us could take a break while the other person took
the kid out. Once you at the second in the mix.
Now he's with Augie all the time. Because Nash is
such a balka baby too, he's like stuck on me.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You're just you're just becoming slowly out numbered. And the
energy that they have you.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Just don't have in your thirties and forties anymore, and
they just don't stop.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So we don't have much going on other than just surviving.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
I think having the second though, Like we're starting to
get into the point now where they play together, and
I think if we just had one, it would always
be one of us has to be like on. But
right now they're starting to get to the age where
we'll kind of sit back and realize, Okay, now they're
chatting with each other, they're playing with toys, and once
like the brotherhood thing starts where they can just throw
them in the backyard with some baseballs or football or
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something like.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
That's that's what.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Yeah, I'm a little more independent and like can interact
with each other.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Yeah, yeah, once they can play together and we can
just throw them out back and kind of watch them
and then we're good.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Well, our producer on this podcast has a beautiful little
boy and she is now currently expecting her second What
advice would you give to her or any parents out
there that are about to have their second child.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Soak up all that you can with your first child, Like,
as the mom, when this newborn comes, you're just all
of a sudden just back to nursing our bottles. And
nighttime wakings and all the chaos, and you kind of
just like, don't get to see your first kid but
in the beginning, So I would say, spend that quality
time together and also just remember that everything is temporary.
(04:27):
Like that's what we keep trying to remind us of
ourselves of is like as soon as you get really
good in one face, then it switches again. So the
same goes when everything is kind of going to shit,
it's only gonna last so long.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's going to come back to the good, and it
just goes up and.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Down, And we try to remember what people always say
is like you're going to look back one day and
realize it was actually like beautiful in the moment, because
some days, like the house is just a bombshell.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
We're just like we're stressed.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
There's like we're ordering takeout because there's no time to cook,
and one kid sick, one kid we're trying to.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Keep away because we wanted him to get sick.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
And then at the end of the day, you're like
a couple years ago by and all of a sudden,
just be in school and playing sports, and we'll be like,
that was actually chaos, but it was kind of cool
that we did it.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Yeah, is this currently, do you think the hardest season
of life that you've been in?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
No, we're as.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Soon as Nave started moving, as soon as our youngest
started moving, like when he's a baby, it's just like
put him in the best net figure out what Augue's
problem is. But one Snash could start really moving around
and running and now it's just full chaos from six
am until seven pm.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And you guys just.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Scaring anyone who does have kids right now.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
No real has also just had a really scary incident
that happened. Correct.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah, So our youngest, Nash is he's got something
going on with them and we're still uh, like we
have an appointment coming up at Sick Kids in Toronto.
We're just trying to figure out something's going on with
him and we're not sure what it is. There's been
a couple of times where me as the first responder,
it's like one thing to go to a call, but
we've called nine on one now three times for him,
(05:57):
so and it was just his first ambulance for he
likes to hold his breath. He has a problem with
mucus where he chokes on his own mucus a lot
when he gets worked up. So we're just trying to
figure out through specialists on what the course of action
and if it's just a temporary thing at his age
orft it's something that we can take care of. But
I did make a post that we talked about a
(06:18):
little bit earlier that anybody who was around a kid,
whether it's a grandparents and aunts and uncle of babysit
or anything, take the weekend course of CPR for kids.
Because last week, when Nash i Astred was in the
bath with the two boys and she yelled screamed my name,
I ran upstairs and he was choking, and he was
bright blue from like the nipples up and completely limp
(06:42):
and like lifeless, and when you think of your own
kids with the tongue out in the eyes rolled back,
and he's like really and he's soaking up from the tubs.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
He's slipping in my arms.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
When he was just blue and completely non responsive, I
saw he wasn't breathing, so I had to give him
some back goes and some chest impression, which can be
pretty traumatizing as a dad and also as a kid.
But luckily I knew what I was doing and I
was like in tears, panicked, So I can only imagine
what someone that has never had to like. Unfortunately, I've
done CPR on many kids before, but it's never been
(07:10):
so personal. So I'm just encouraging everyone I come across
to just learn it because you'd be surprised how much.
Oh yeah, this is what I should be doing rather
than just freezing and staring, because without knowing what to do,
it can really it can really go.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
When you're dealing with something like that, every second really matters.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
So and my biggest piece of advice for anyone is
just remember it's nothing like TV. It's not like Baywatch,
but they're just kind of doing this and everyone wakes up.
You have to be really rough and really aggressive with
how you're doing it because they're resilient. Kids are resilient
and they want that to come out. If they're choking,
you just have to really force to get it out.
So I encourage anyone listening that's around small kids to
get certified in CPR.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, that's that's that's really scary and a very important
information like I would never ever have thought of doing that.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
I have my CPRC, Like, oh you do yeah, I
have like all my certifications because I was like a
swim teacher for a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
You have to have all of that.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
But I've seen just like people I follow and TikTok
and stuff, I always thought this was a good idea,
like pregnant people that have gotten their families together and
been like, Okay, we're just gonna you know, you can
have someone come into your house and like do it.
Like there's so many different options depending on what works
for you. Being like everyone you know that wants to
do it that's going to be around the kid, like
come over and we're going to host it and we're
(08:26):
all going to get certified together.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Well, I had a DM from a grandmother in her
sixties the other day that said I posted it one
day and it was two days later that they were
at a family barbecue and a seven month old started
choking on something she found on the ground, like like
whether it was a piece of food or whatever, and
everybody froze and the grandmother was the one that, without
even taking CPR, just listening to my post and gave
(08:49):
some back blows and the.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Little piece of food came out of the baby's throat.
So I said.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
In the post, A lot of it's just even just
watch a really good YouTube video and grab a doll
or a stuffed animal.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
You'd be surprised how much that would get you familiar
with kind of what to do.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And even if you've done the cours and it's been
a while, it's always a good idea to get kind
of like just crushed back, because we did during COVID
because that's when I was pregnant, and then you just
kind of forgot about it and I never actually went.
I just did everything online, and you realize you get
so comfortable with nothing ever happens, until all of a sudden,
something happens right and.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
You want to be pay there.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
And then I'm sure it's different too when you're actually
in that moment and you're terrified and in shock, like
being like, my god, what did I learn ten years ago?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, I didn't even try to do anything myself. I
just go Kevin, let's get in here.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Just happened.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
I've been at home, So you know, we're even lucky
that way, because it's not putting aster on the spot.
Like I said, she had both the boys and the tub,
so she pulled the youngest out he was still in
the tub, so it was just a chaotic scene. But yeah,
I just encourage everyone to get brushed up, especially if
you're around small kids.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, well the Kids is a gray hospital. My sister
was there when she was a kid, so hopefully get.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I always like I sometimes question like how we even
how we were able to.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Get this far, Like how you're talking about people getting
birth in caves.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And like, yeah, exactly, Like it's.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Not by anything other than we got lucky because the
right amount of caves people didn't die, and we just
all the way to this point.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, truly made it so much harder than we should have.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Like how is the how is the three month old
surviving in a cave like with people not even like
really even speaking language yet, Like what the fuck? It's
so insane to me. Okay, uh, Bachelor Nation stuff, astraid
(10:44):
you were just you had like some reunion with Alexis Waters.
I did the girls from your season.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, like it's just gotten married a couple of weeks ago.
So we did her about party in Miami and had
a little many.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Of reunion with a couple of girls from our season,
which was fun, and we realized next year is going
to be ten years since we filmed the show, so
it's almost a decade of having known these girls now,
which is.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Insane because in some ways, I don't know if you
guys are the same. I forget we met on TV,
Like I know it's a thing, but like I don't
think of it that way.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Yeah, but until we got you guys email.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So like in some ways it feels like yesterday, and
then in other ways you forget that you ever kind
of did it. So getting together with everyone was kind
of nice to realize, Wow, nine years later and we're
still good enough friends to kind of get together for
this type of stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
So who was there specifically?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It was Alexis obviously, and then Rachel and Jasmine and myself.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I think that was it.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
And you guys were all a next season together.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
We were all the next season. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Are you still close with Christina? Weren't you guys really close?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah? I still talk to Christina and Whitney. I don't
talk to them as much anymore. It's everyone just kind
of goes to such different like face of life, right,
So I still talk to Alexis and Rachel pretty much
every single week, and then everyone else is just like
social media. I kind of keep up with enough.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But they were at the wedding, so all the big
events we always try to get together.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Nice. Nice Kevin. You did Traders in Canada?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah, really cool one. Yeah yeah, it's really cool.
It was like a fun, fun show, Like it was
a lot of fun. They reached out kind of last
minute and said they filmed it in Montreal in like
this huge mansion. And actually the host of the Canadian
one is the best host of all the franchises. Really,
she's like French Canadian. She's like she plays the part
perfect and you can't ever see her out of character,
(12:41):
Like every time we saw heran off camera, she's fully
done up.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Like ready to go full character.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
So it was really cool, the exact same premise as
the American one.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I ended up.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I got sent home at the last roundtable, and I
my problem was I made a final two with two people,
and one of them I was serious about and I
just didn't reiterate enough with her that she was my
final two and if she would have not written my
name down, we had like the.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Ending right to the end of two l us and like.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
It sucks because she's like the sweetest lady, like a
teacher from Edmonton, and we were just gonna ride off
and do two faithful at the end, and then she
wrote my name down because the girls got their hooks
in her.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Was there anyone else on it that we would know?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
It was like Big Brother Canada players and more along
that line.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Yeah, but I didn't know everybody. I didn't really know anybody. No.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I feel like Neda the girl that one was like
the big Canadian girl that most people went recognice from
Big Brother.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
But and there's my drag race. Yeah, there was a Yeah,
Melinda was from Canada's Drag Race. And then there was
my friend Lauren.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
She's just on the cover of Sports Illustrats swimsheet issue
like this Laurence time. She's a model from New York.
Really cool, really really cool. Yeah, I just thought I
just got the in the.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's sick.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
You had a crazy like your reality journey is like
so under the table.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I feel like like no, but like every time, like yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Home first week, he's there all ten episodes, every show
he does well.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Because you did Bachelor Atte Canada and you got engaged
on that, didn't you, And then you did Winter Game.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Bachelor Winter Games, Bachelor Winter Winter Games, and you ended
up dating someone from.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
That, right, it was like we won the show, Okay,
well you know it's public information. And then he met Astro,
and then you did Bachelor Paradise Canada you were the bartender,
which I think count and then you did Traders.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You're rivaling Joe for the amount of reality.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That was funny because there are like the least two
guys that are into this at all, Like they both
hated I feel and they're just kind of like along
for the.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Ride because we're like, no, come on, I want to
watch it on TV. Can you Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
They're like, I guess I'll do another one.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I think the only part I like is the filming part.
Like I don't really like the build up. I don't
love watching it. I don't really watch much.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
It's like I like, like the game show is the
coolest part, Like I would love you like put yourself
into a game show and it's kind of you versus everyone,
which is obviously not the Bachelor world. So Traders was
like a new we love to do amazing, Amazing Race
Canada is what I'd like to do.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I feel like they would definitely are you guys in
talks at all with what?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
That the same production as Traders, So we just just
because our kids are so young, we kind of shut
it down this year, but maybe next year because it's
it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
That would be a fun one to do.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
That would be cool. You see so much of Canada too,
which would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, Astra, would you do Traders?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I feel like I don't. I love watching all the shows.
Like he I watched Traders US and he's like, what
is this you're watching? Like, oh my god, such a
good stroke like show. It's this murder my string. He's isn't, like, no,
I'm good. I don't want to watch it. So I
feel like if I did the shows, it would kind
of ruin it for me. Like I feel the same
way about like House would be like the one thing
(16:07):
it's I ever Bravo that would be my like, okay, the.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Toronto they need one.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's crazy how different, Like just like seeing you guys
today and like thinking back on like our season of
Paradise and just like kind of even even our season
of Paradise, just like it was so different, Like the
mindset was so different because social media was like there,
(16:40):
but like people weren't really coming off the show making
a living off of social media, so it was really
we were all just like like after after we filmed Paradise,
it was like, all right, let's all go to l
A and like hang out and for a weekend. Yeah,
like everyoneuld go home, But yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
It was the how do you guys think if you
were to go on the show now, is there anything
you would do differently or like a different approach you
would take to it, just having like done the show
before and now knowing like how much it's transformed.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I mean personally, I actually think the only approach is
to always just actually be yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Like I think when you try to like think ahead
too much or free plan too much, it just doesn't
ever work out.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think when it happens organically on any show, it
kind of always works the best.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Yeah, it seems to work less for the people that
are putting on the show, Like I feel like that
it's kind of the boring people that end up succeeding
in the long run. If you look at all like
the successful couples, they're like not the ones that are
in speedos or throwing stuff in the ocean, or like,
you know, do it all the stuff I'm thinking of
our season, just all the extra bs that goes on.
It's always just like the normal people that go on
and treat it more like a social experiment.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Meet everybody.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
I was trying to meet all the guys, all the girls,
have a good time with everybody, and you just kind
of find your way to somebody that you click with
and then take it from there.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I'd probably do the exact same thing if if I
did it again.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, you guys were you guys were locked in pretty early.
I mean I would take it like day two or three.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Yeah, two or three, you're just yeah, and then people
come in and you realize you've already hung out for
a week with someone and someone comes in and it's
almost like, you know, even at a bar talking to
someone for an hour and someone else comes up to you,
you're already interested in the person for the hour, so
you're just brushing the other person off. I think that's
the way with Paradise. Once you get to know somebody,
that relationship already trumps anything new that's coming in, so
(18:27):
you just kind of brush.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Everyone I was off.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Yeah, Well, I guess that's the advantage of being down
there early too, versus having to come in late. It's
like a lot of people are so locked in and
as people that are like more normal and like we're
locked in early. Also, like I agree, if you're looking
to find a serious relationship, you think like your person
might be there just like chilling out and locking in
as the move. But also I'm like so grateful for
the other people that like are stirring shit up because
(18:51):
it's like you let me just lay.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
On a cot and like talk about you. Well, I
don't have to do as much.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Other people's drama, and seeing how the other person takes
it in actually tells you a lot about that person.
Because if somebody's doing something crazy and he thinks it's
funny and I think, oh, it's kind of offensive. Yeah,
that kind of tells me a lot about his personality,
and I'm like, Okay, maybe we're not on the same.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Page about things, so yeah, so true.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
But a lot of people go on the show, and
I'm sure it's changed in your eyes too since we
were on it, where now that it can be turned
into more of a career if you wanted to take it,
Like the public eye view if your motives.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Are into that only when you go into it. Like
we talked about it a little bit on our season.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
I feel like a lot of people that put on
a big show, they get home, they start posting, and
some people are like, well, you're as crazy as I
thought you were.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
That was just yeah, you build like a more authentic
connection with the people that are watching.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, that's because they could relate. I think most people,
most people want to be able to relate with the
person on TV, and like it would be like I
feel silly acting that way, so I'm not going to
do it, you know. Yeah, what do you guys? Have
you guys heard about the changes as far as olden
people are now at it too?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, people will be there, which I think if there's
too much cross age dating it could get kind of weird.
I'm hoping it's there for like advice, Like I'm hoping
it's like the Golden People day the.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Other people day.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Maybe like one cross dating would become fun and then
it's just like having that like listening ear of the
older people giving advice.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Maybe because I can't see this at all, I can't
see that the crossover one picturing first of all, if
you're single in your seventy what advice are you giving?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well so much that passed? Yeah, yeah, I guess we
can take them out of that equation, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Seventy year old boys we've never settled.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Down would be a different story.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It's a different show.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
But yeah, but the cross dating might might be interesting.
I guess. Yeah, it was my thirties, we're old. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What do you think about Costa Rica?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Now?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I'm a little sad about you know, the Cellulita.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Yeah, I guess it's just nostalgic and to see it
every season, having like Matt and gotten engaged there, we're like, oh,
like sentimental, but okay, does.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
He go or not? I think he's been poor. Hey,
I'm pretty sure it has been gone for like many seasons. Yeah. Yeah,
this last season was like our season, I think.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Yeah, But I also like some of these shows, like
especially a show is like I guess it's been around
as long as the bastly, like a good facelift is
like one day you'll look at, say, twenty years from now,
and it's had twenty good six seasons in Costa Rica.
It's still pretty cool to look back and you're like, oh,
do you remember that's how it used to be, Like it's
going to be that way.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Every show is going to.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Kind of change definitely the.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Same way thing and change hosts or change locations. It's
the same kind of thing. You just kind of move
on from it.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
But pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Costrick is beautiful. I'm excited for like the evolution of
the show. I'm excited to see like visually what it
looks like, like the new set and everything.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
I'm actually wondering is the resort just going to be
back to like we can go there now? And because
that would be a cool trip to take, just go
and like book a room and stay there for a
few nights.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Where we could, we could It's always been it's always
been an option, so even like off season, you could
book it. But you know, Bachelor goes in there and
decorates it because it looks much different, Like I've looked
it up online.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
It's like they want to take off I think they
like take off the doors and like there's a lot
done to it. Yeah, right, So it wouldn't necessarily it
would be the same location, but I know if it
would feel necessarily the same because they like do so
much to it.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Cool if you were staying close by and you went
down and used the beach for a day or something.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, definitely again because we haven't been back.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So yeah, you guys haven't been back as a guest
or anything since your season.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We went to shoeing Crystal's wedding.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Sorry this is Joe Joe. Oh yeah, I was there too.
I was at that wedding.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Wedding, but that was it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That was the last time we went back to So
we went back.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Nice. What advice would you give to a couple, a
successful couple that comes off the show for this season
as far as adjusting in the real world and you
guys both like we have, we've had the same I
don't want to call it an issue, but like Canadian
us like all that shit.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Well, I think even when you're on the show, like,
it's not a bad thing to talk about location right
off the hop because how many times do you hear
them come off and then it's one didn't want to
move or the other one couldn't do that, you know,
even state to state for us, it was day three
by the time I was saying, dastard, I want to
retire a firefighter, so I gotta stay where I'm at
And she was like, oh, and from Europe. Toronto was
(23:52):
so similar, like I love it, and it kind of
helped us get into it. I'm sure you guys are
a similar similar tumble where it wasn't like a deterrant
big oh she's Canadian and he's American. It was like
something you have to figure out so even safe to stay.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
And I just say, you got to figure.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
That out early on because you want to come off
in the first issue and be like, well, I'm not moving.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Are you moving?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, you definitely talk.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You just kind of have to take that leap of faith.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Like I think if you don't just like fully commit
to the relationship right away, then you're just kind of playing.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Pretend for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Then you get caught up in the validation of fans
and this and what people are saying. I think you
just have to like take a leave of faith, dive in,
and just focus on your relationship and then see what
happens and then everything else just kind of goes from
there and try.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
To have fun with the like a little bit of
notoriety you get because it is kind of fun off
the hop like we enjoyed you know, the people wanting
to ask us questions about it.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
We enjoyed doing interviews. It was like it was kind
of a fun.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Exciting part to do together because then eventually it goes
away and now now nobody really cares. We're just kind
of the people that met on the show. So you
enjoy it too, like, don't just brush it by. Kind
of enjoy the time and enjoy and make the most
of it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah. Yeah, I always say that. I think that's just
so important to have the conversation of like will you move?
Will I move? Like we have to figure that out
because if you're going to go come off the show
and play the long distance game for a year, it's
like it's going to be really hard to make that work.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
And it's just going to make that decision harder a
year later, right because because then you've been together, and
it makes it way more difficult because now you're just.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Break right out.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
That's our advice, Astra, Did you move right away? Did
you like? How immediate? Was that?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Pretty much?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So we have filmed in June and then our season
got done airing in September, and then we moved into
our condo in December of that year, so it was
like less than six months after we met I was moving.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Yeah, I think we were ten months because your lease
was up in the spring, but I was in Chicago
a lot that year.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, yeah, And it's like moving initially because you're just
like moving countries and trying to figure it all out
all the kayo.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Congrats on your green cart things things.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, I know, it's been a long road.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
I was thinking about you actually because I was like, Damn,
when I changed my name, will eventually have to do
all the paperwork and all the things.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I know, I still haven't done all of it, like
all my passports, my you know, residency court, all of
the important stuff has changed. But like random bill wasn't
like random credit cards that I forgot about.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Like yeah, I'm like I need to chill for a
second and then we'll tackle that down the line.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
No rush, Have you guys been keeping up at all
with like the past few seasons of the shows or
anybody you'd want to see in this upcoming season of Paradise.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I mean, I'm just we haven't.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
We haven't really, we just know, like the main kind
of stuff like will fill me in, but I kind
of want to see people like, maybe not as far
back as ten years, but it'd be cool if they
started sprinkling in, not just like the most current men
current women put together.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
But it's always cool to see.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
The one guy or one girl from five years ago
come on that maybe got out of a relationship or
as fresh and single and then they make a big splash.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
So I always just think that's cool because the people
are looking them up, like which season is that guy
on it?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Which where is that It kind of creates more of
a buzz than just the most current you know, seven
most featured girls and guys get together.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
But totally well.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
And the thing with those people is they've usually met
or interacted because they've all come off the show around
the same time and they've had some time and they've
been at a bar in LA and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Like our season was fun because.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
There was a lot of people surprise, like Joe and
Tia and Becca that were like from the past that
we're coming back, and I feel like the fans of
that too.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's always why I look forward to
and I'm looking forward to the Golden People too, I
guess because I feel like I've been watching Golden Baster
Baster Red. I haven't watched the other one, so I
actually know the Golden People better than the young.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
People, so I'm excited. I just like seeing older people tap.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Like I see a couple in their eighties holding hands,
I just think that's the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So that's what I'll be watching for.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Do you have a favorite from Golden that you want
to see down there?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So we love them all.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
They're like all so good, Like.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I love alsome love and I feel like the younger one,
like it's a little bit more caddy and like and
I go to Housewives for that, So like I love
I just love the wholesomeness of the and like the
camaraderie of the people too, right, Like that's like the
part when you film the show it's like our Bachelor's
like okay, whatever, It's like we were hanging out with
all of the girls, Like that's the part that was fun.
(28:41):
So then I also like seeing like all the old
guys hanging out with each other and the girls, Like
I think that part is always fun. So I think
that part will be really funny seeing some of the
older guys and younger people like having those funny moments.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I think it was time to change locations because I
don't know if any senior citizen can handle Cellulita.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, Costa Rica is pretty it's it's really hot and
humid as well.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
It was also just like a lot of stairs, a
lot of like ups and downs, like bunk beds like there.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
They changed it to a comedy for I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Actually maybe maybe I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Were getting up getting up to the girls room, like
what was a lot of stairs?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
We we were actually like we're like recapping Bachelor pad
because they just put it on Bachelor Nation's YouTube channel.
Have you ever seen how fucking batshit crazy that show was,
like before the morphed in the Bachelor in Paradise competitions
and stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Right, yeah, we just watched episode two and it's like
they're in the Bachelor mansion.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
It's just a different time of tea there.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Over Reality TV actually is my favorite thing in general.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
You should watch this. You should watch it. It's on
YouTube like things.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
On television and how it was okay.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
To the air some of this stuff they're saying about
each other is like genuinely so mean.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
So fansais, let's changed the show a bit too, right,
Like now we're all just like hyper aware of what
we're saying and how it comes off and how people
perceive it.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Like old school were out like two thousand and two
to two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Not okay.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
The wood girl walked up to this So the guy,
the one guy on the show is like a like
a fan, right. They bring some fans show.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, like alumni cast members, and then they threw in
like five super fans of the show.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And this girl walks up to him because she finds
out that he's going to vote her. She walks up
to him shoes. I just want to let you know
I think you're ugly and I hate you. Oh my god,
Jesus fuck.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Like everyone's coming forever. Everyone's like physical.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Appearance but they're wearing their personality is like throw But yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
Feel like it was ahead of its time, Like that
could be on like a streaming service, like a like
a hardcore reality map.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Back and do like competition stuff. See that's the reality
shows we love. Like if there's money involved, you can win.
That's what we love to watch. So if they bring
back Baxter.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Pat, yeah they should. I actually do think it was
ahead of its time a little bit.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Well essentially, I mean that's kind of Kevin isn't Wasn't
that kind of similar to how Winter Greens was? Could
you win money in Winter Games? Was there?
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Winter Games was premised on like the Olympics were going on,
and you know, the NBC are so massive that we're like,
let's make it. Like I think it was Chris Harrison
to let's make a show that's like just let's put
them on ice. Let's but like you just see something
like let's see like Ben Higgins skate and a leotard,
like like there's some pretty good scenes because we all
are like not Olympic athletes, but they tried to make
(31:58):
us Olympic.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Oh were they made? Can you do like activities challenges?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:03):
So like the first one, like we did downhill skiing,
which like Dean killed us all he's from Colorado and
you know he killed And then we had to.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Do speed skating and you were I were like in.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Canada, so we got to wear like the full Canada
gear and everything, and it was like we did a
big parade.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Did watch the first episode you guys did the parade
where you guys were walking out with like your countries
and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
So they did like a mock Olympics Challenge style dating show.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
But were you all single?
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Yeah, Like if you won the comps, you got to
like get a date card for the night. And we
went back to the mansion and it was like, yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
We should bring back backster pad, but do it with
already established couple. So like crash the dating, but do
couples competing.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I've been preaching that for years, but nobody.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Nobody listens to people would watched, People would like that.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I remember watching. I watched like the first episode of
Winter Games because it was like it came out, I
want to say, like like five days before I was
leaving to go on Becka season and I was like
trying to like kind of get everything in and I
remember watching it and being like what am I doing?
Like what what? What? What Tolervan show? Am I about
(33:13):
to go on?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Gave me really bad anxiety.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, So you never watched Bachelor before you went on?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
No? No, I mean I.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Did, Yeah, And I mean you were familiar because you.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Have cousins and well I knew what the show was.
I mean there's people, there's people that we interview and
they're like, I've never even heard of it before. I
was like, okay, well you're fucking lying. You definitely heard everyone.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
The amount of shows that like reference The Bachelor too,
just in like pop culture is like every other show.
I feel like we're watching we were watching like what
like Rick and Morty and they referenced The Bachelor. Yeah,
shows you would not expect.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, I gotta stop saying I gotta stop swearing. My
mom text me the other day, she's like, stop saying
the effort on the podcast. You don't swear that much
in person. Like that is actually true. I actually do
say the effort in person, and on the now.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Says the word because we say quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh it's so funny. I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh it's the grown up words.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So then who wakes up in the morning and he'll
be like, Mommy, I'm not gonna say fun today.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm like, okay, you just said it. Though.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
It's the hardest things that all laugh because you're like, buddy,
we don't say no more.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I promise.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I left just thinking about iPhone. Would little kids swear?
I fid that's so funny, which is a problem because
I know when.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
He's like playing with this dinosaur, he's like, I'm gonna
fucking get you.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Well that's what it's my context. Really, how do you
know get his little glasses kills me? He's so cute.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
He's the cut.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Would you guys ever let if when your kids get older,
would you ever let him go on reality TV? Not
a thing?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Good question.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I think it depends on the show, right, Yeah, a
reality TV like that's on that I wouldn't ever go on,
you know, and then there's like The Batcher it's like
nice and clean and you know, so it depends on
the show.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, any I.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Mean once theory ten, you don't really have a choice.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Yeah, So I think it's just harder because it's like
I would say, like, yeah, of course, like I would
be a hypocrite if I didn't like fully support them
if that's something they wanted to do. I mean, there's
some shows that I would prefer them go on than
others are hypothetical non existent children. But at the same time,
I think there's like the anxiety of like, you know,
too much like I think it's a lot easier to
(35:36):
let your kid go on when you like have no
idea go down when you're there, and like what could
potentially happen after, Like we know so much both like
our story and like the not so cute stories of
being part of this show, so like I would just
have an additional layer of like caution.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So I guess it depends on the kid too.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
If I felt like my kid was like smart and
level headed and yeah I'm so small, I'd be like, okay,
I try.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But if my kid was a little crazy, yeah, and
like you.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Know, yeah, I'd be like, I don't advise this knowing
who you are as a person, like even friends. I
have friends that I think would be great and I
have friends that I love, but I'd be like, I
don't think this is for you, Like you'll it's also
like one of the odds that like mommy and Daddy
had a great experience and it worked out, and it
works out for you guys, Like the odds are just
so low.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, right, true.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You never know before we let you guys go, anything
you got upcoming, you want to share, anything, you want
to plug anything like that.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
You guys Chilling and Burton.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
You move in anytime, so well, first of all, before
I forget joke, whenever you're in Toronto, let's do around
to golf this summer.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Oh yeah, definitely, we're.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
I'm like thirty minutes from Toronto. When we can meet
in the middle. Oakfield has a lot of great courses.
We could we could meet somewhere in the middle and
do a do a round. I'm trying to break I
broke under one hundred and three times last year and
that's uh but okay, Yeah, I'm usually like between one
and one fifteen if I have like a I count
every stroke though, like I do need to count every
single I.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Don't tap in. I mean I don't. My buddy's on
Canadian Long Drive. He drives it like four hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
But he's been teaching me a lot of stuff and
he's always like, dude, you can take that.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
I'm like, no, because if I start taking the two putters,
I'll miss them.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
When does it end? When does it end? I agree? Yeah, definitely.
We just got an apartment in Toronto, so we'll be
there a lot.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
So yeah, we're excited.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Itally fun and taking them into the beaches yet you
guys lived in the beaches for a while.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
We were in Liberty Village. Oh, we used to go
to the beaches like we have friends over there.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
But we were always we have been to Liberty.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
I took you Burger Drop, so it was like the
dead of winter, We'll take you to Liberty Village.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
It's cute over there.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
The only thing I'd like to plug is Astro and
I are running a fitness retreat.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
We've done one already. It's called Active Escapes.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
It's a company from Australia, but they've expanded to this
side of the world. So we ran the first one
in February and it's in Cancun. And basically it's a
week vacation where you just turn your brain off and
follow the schedule. Like yoga rich are really popular. It's
similar to that, but it's more intense. It's a little
more intense. You get like a morning morning beach workout.
(38:06):
Usually there's some kind of activity, whether it's a catamaran
or some kind of local sonte visit or whatever you do,
and then you do an afternoon weight training session and
a yoga session which she coaches, and then there's like
a party day there's like it's a really big social group.
I've done seven of them, but all over the world
(38:27):
and now that they've expanded Astro and I took on
this franchise in Cancun. So it's called Active Escapes if
you look it up, and our branch is Active Escaped
Cancun and the next one we run in December first.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Is it similar to surf yoga beer.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
So they stole it from Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Really Active Escapes have been around for fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
They have, I don't know, like I've been to the
one in Dubai.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
They got them in all over Indonesia and all over Australia,
like a lot of outside of the world. They do
like a boat retreat where the full in the Maldives
where you're on a boat for the whole week.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
It's like a yacht retreat.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It's just like a week of like fun workouts, drinking,
and people come as couples, people come by themselves, like
it's about half of our guests are usually it's looking
to meet new people. So it's a really fun way
you like working out and meeting new people.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
And some people will do some people will do one
workout in the first day and then you just only
see them about the social.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Things really Okay, So it's like casual, it's very very casual.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Everybody's are like the repeat guest is like in the
eighty percent, Like people are that are signed up have
usually already been do one, so it can get really addictive.
It's a lot of fun. So if anyone's looking for
like a before Christmas get away where you come back
a little bit fitter than you left, it's something to do.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Wait, that sounds so fun. I actually would love to
do something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Our first trip ever post Paradise was to one in Bali,
and I at that point was like just doing yoga
and I literally thought I was going to die during
the hostital course.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And like, when you finish the week, you feel like
you can take on anything, like you're just like I'm
I can do three workouts a day and soldiering tequila
and nothing fazes me.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Okay, Well, everyone listening, be sure to check out Active Escapes.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Can you an edition?
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Maybe we'll go to the next.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, yes, and I'll definitely I'll definitely hit you up
for golf. And thank you guys so much for coming
on the podcast and to all our listeners. Thank you
for tuning in to best for Happy Hour.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
We will have more exclusive interviews coming your way. Thanks
for listening.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Bye,
Hey, everyone, welcome back to bet your Happy Hour. I'm
Joe and I'm Serena, and we are here today with
two lovely guests, Astrad and Kevin. Hi, guys, hey, welcome, Welcome.
Before we get into anything, I do want to just
throw this out there. Seven game, sevens in a row,
(00:23):
seven times, seven losses the Toronto Maple Leafs. How do you.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Feel it's just a lifestyle at this point?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's actually long? We actually, Astrad, you lived in Florida
for a while, so was there like, were you somewhat
charing for Florida or no?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So I had only been to like one or two
hockey games before I ever met Kevin, so I instantly
became a Leafs fan. And now I'm seven years into
just being disappointed year after year and realizing this is
just the way.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My kids are going to grow up.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Have you guys been together for seven years?
Speaker 5 (00:53):
Yeah? Seven years? It would have been Joe was the paradise.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Doesn't feel like a coincidence that ever since you guys
have been together, the Leafs are losing in game seven.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
So I thought it was gonna be a fun podcast.
I know we were going deep and like, yeah, right away,
right off there.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
It's heartbreaking being a Leaf fan.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
It is like game offs.
Speaker 7 (01:15):
Game off remote slammed me taking the dogs out halfway
through the second period.
Speaker 5 (01:18):
Didn't even turn it back on again. I just yeah,
I know it too.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, yeah, brutal. So yes, you guys will get into it.
But you guys, you met on Bachelor in Paradise, Astra.
You were on Nick Faiel's season, Kevin, you were on
the first Bachelorette Canada.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
Correct, Yeah, yeah, and then I did the Bachelor Winter Games.
That's when I went over to the ABC side.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, let's well, we'll get into that too, But what
before we do? What's new with you guys anything.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
We're just in like the thick of it with good stuff.
I feel like we are just two hundred three so
on screw and a half and Nash is a year
and a half.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
And it's just so you're just like in the trenches.
This is like every days of the war.
Speaker 7 (02:03):
You like start you start with like a pep talk
at the start of the day, and at the end
of the day, it's like a glass of wine and like,
all right, that was a good day or a bad day.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Let's start again tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
Anybody who says parents, I think it's the hardest thing
I've ever experienced, and I've done a lot. I think
I'm a stay at home mom, like I worked twenty
four hours yesterday. When she's at home with the two,
I'm like, I can't believe that people undersell this and
say it's oh, motherhood is so great. It is the
hardest job. No more sugarcoating. It is incredible. If you're
a good mother, is the best job ever.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, well why have two? Why not? Sty? I heard
I heard like one from like my my friends i'd
have kids. I heard like one's easy, like it will
easier one, and then when you get when you have two,
it's just like that's it game over, Like.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well you're now it's just one on one.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Right when we just had Augie, it was one of
us could take a break while the other person took
the kid out. Once you at the second in the mix.
Now he's with Augie all the time. Because Nash is
such a balka baby too, he's like stuck on me.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You're just you're just becoming slowly out numbered. And the
energy that they have you.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Just don't have in your thirties and forties anymore, and
they just don't stop.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So we don't have much going on other than just surviving.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
I think having the second though, Like we're starting to
get into the point now where they play together, and
I think if we just had one, it would always
be one of us has to be like on. But
right now they're starting to get to the age where
we'll kind of sit back and realize, Okay, now they're
chatting with each other, they're playing with toys, and once
like the brotherhood thing starts where they can just throw
them in the backyard with some baseballs or football or
(03:38):
something like.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
That's that's what.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Yeah, I'm a little more independent and like can interact
with each other.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Yeah, yeah, once they can play together and we can
just throw them out back and kind of watch them
and then we're good.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
Well, our producer on this podcast has a beautiful little
boy and she is now currently expecting her second What
advice would you give to her or any parents out
there that are about to have their second child.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Soak up all that you can with your first child, Like,
as the mom, when this newborn comes, you're just all
of a sudden just back to nursing our bottles. And
nighttime wakings and all the chaos, and you kind of
just like, don't get to see your first kid but
in the beginning, So I would say, spend that quality
time together and also just remember that everything is temporary.
(04:27):
Like that's what we keep trying to remind us of
ourselves of is like as soon as you get really
good in one face, then it switches again. So the
same goes when everything is kind of going to shit,
it's only gonna last so long.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's going to come back to the good, and it
just goes up and.
Speaker 7 (04:40):
Down, And we try to remember what people always say
is like you're going to look back one day and
realize it was actually like beautiful in the moment, because
some days, like the house is just a bombshell.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
We're just like we're stressed.
Speaker 7 (04:51):
There's like we're ordering takeout because there's no time to cook,
and one kid sick, one kid we're trying to.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Keep away because we wanted him to get sick.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
And then at the end of the day, you're like
a couple years ago by and all of a sudden,
just be in school and playing sports, and we'll be like,
that was actually chaos, but it was kind of cool
that we did it.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
Yeah, is this currently, do you think the hardest season
of life that you've been in?
Speaker 5 (05:10):
No, we're as.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
Soon as Nave started moving, as soon as our youngest
started moving, like when he's a baby, it's just like
put him in the best net figure out what Augue's
problem is. But one Snash could start really moving around
and running and now it's just full chaos from six
am until seven pm.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
And you guys just.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Scaring anyone who does have kids right now.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
No real has also just had a really scary incident
that happened. Correct.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Yeah, yeah, So our youngest, Nash is he's got something
going on with them and we're still uh, like we
have an appointment coming up at Sick Kids in Toronto.
We're just trying to figure out something's going on with
him and we're not sure what it is. There's been
a couple of times where me as the first responder,
it's like one thing to go to a call, but
we've called nine on one now three times for him,
(05:57):
so and it was just his first ambulance for he
likes to hold his breath. He has a problem with
mucus where he chokes on his own mucus a lot
when he gets worked up. So we're just trying to
figure out through specialists on what the course of action
and if it's just a temporary thing at his age
orft it's something that we can take care of. But
I did make a post that we talked about a
(06:18):
little bit earlier that anybody who was around a kid,
whether it's a grandparents and aunts and uncle of babysit
or anything, take the weekend course of CPR for kids.
Because last week, when Nash i Astred was in the
bath with the two boys and she yelled screamed my name,
I ran upstairs and he was choking, and he was
bright blue from like the nipples up and completely limp
(06:42):
and like lifeless, and when you think of your own
kids with the tongue out in the eyes rolled back,
and he's like really and he's soaking up from the tubs.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
He's slipping in my arms.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
When he was just blue and completely non responsive, I
saw he wasn't breathing, so I had to give him
some back goes and some chest impression, which can be
pretty traumatizing as a dad and also as a kid.
But luckily I knew what I was doing and I
was like in tears, panicked, So I can only imagine
what someone that has never had to like. Unfortunately, I've
done CPR on many kids before, but it's never been
(07:10):
so personal. So I'm just encouraging everyone I come across
to just learn it because you'd be surprised how much.
Oh yeah, this is what I should be doing rather
than just freezing and staring, because without knowing what to do,
it can really it can really go.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
When you're dealing with something like that, every second really matters.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
So and my biggest piece of advice for anyone is
just remember it's nothing like TV. It's not like Baywatch,
but they're just kind of doing this and everyone wakes up.
You have to be really rough and really aggressive with
how you're doing it because they're resilient. Kids are resilient
and they want that to come out. If they're choking,
you just have to really force to get it out.
So I encourage anyone listening that's around small kids to
get certified in CPR.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, that's that's that's really scary and a very important
information like I would never ever have thought of doing that.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
I have my CPRC, Like, oh you do yeah, I
have like all my certifications because I was like a
swim teacher for a couple of years.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
You have to have all of that.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
But I've seen just like people I follow and TikTok
and stuff, I always thought this was a good idea,
like pregnant people that have gotten their families together and
been like, Okay, we're just gonna you know, you can
have someone come into your house and like do it.
Like there's so many different options depending on what works
for you. Being like everyone you know that wants to
do it that's going to be around the kid, like
come over and we're going to host it and we're
(08:26):
all going to get certified together.
Speaker 7 (08:28):
Well, I had a DM from a grandmother in her
sixties the other day that said I posted it one
day and it was two days later that they were
at a family barbecue and a seven month old started
choking on something she found on the ground, like like
whether it was a piece of food or whatever, and
everybody froze and the grandmother was the one that, without
even taking CPR, just listening to my post and gave
(08:49):
some back blows and the.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Little piece of food came out of the baby's throat.
So I said.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
In the post, A lot of it's just even just
watch a really good YouTube video and grab a doll
or a stuffed animal.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
You'd be surprised how much that would get you familiar
with kind of what to do.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And even if you've done the cours and it's been
a while, it's always a good idea to get kind
of like just crushed back, because we did during COVID
because that's when I was pregnant, and then you just
kind of forgot about it and I never actually went.
I just did everything online, and you realize you get
so comfortable with nothing ever happens, until all of a sudden,
something happens right and.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
You want to be pay there.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
And then I'm sure it's different too when you're actually
in that moment and you're terrified and in shock, like
being like, my god, what did I learn ten years ago?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Yeah, I didn't even try to do anything myself. I
just go Kevin, let's get in here.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Just happened.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
I've been at home, So you know, we're even lucky
that way, because it's not putting aster on the spot.
Like I said, she had both the boys and the tub,
so she pulled the youngest out he was still in
the tub, so it was just a chaotic scene. But yeah,
I just encourage everyone to get brushed up, especially if
you're around small kids.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, well the Kids is a gray hospital. My sister
was there when she was a kid, so hopefully get.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I always like I sometimes question like how we even
how we were able to.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Get this far, Like how you're talking about people getting
birth in caves.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And like, yeah, exactly, Like it's.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Not by anything other than we got lucky because the
right amount of caves people didn't die, and we just
all the way to this point.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Yeah, truly made it so much harder than we should have.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Like how is the how is the three month old
surviving in a cave like with people not even like
really even speaking language yet, Like what the fuck? It's
so insane to me. Okay, uh, Bachelor Nation stuff, astraid
(10:44):
you were just you had like some reunion with Alexis Waters.
I did the girls from your season.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Yeah, like it's just gotten married a couple of weeks ago.
So we did her about party in Miami and had
a little many.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Of reunion with a couple of girls from our season,
which was fun, and we realized next year is going
to be ten years since we filmed the show, so
it's almost a decade of having known these girls now,
which is.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Insane because in some ways, I don't know if you
guys are the same. I forget we met on TV,
Like I know it's a thing, but like I don't
think of it that way.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Yeah, but until we got you guys email.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So like in some ways it feels like yesterday, and
then in other ways you forget that you ever kind
of did it. So getting together with everyone was kind
of nice to realize, Wow, nine years later and we're
still good enough friends to kind of get together for
this type of stuff.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
So who was there specifically?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It was Alexis obviously, and then Rachel and Jasmine and myself.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I think that was it.
Speaker 4 (11:44):
And you guys were all a next season together.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
We were all the next season. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Are you still close with Christina? Weren't you guys really close?
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah? I still talk to Christina and Whitney. I don't
talk to them as much anymore. It's everyone just kind
of goes to such different like face of life, right,
So I still talk to Alexis and Rachel pretty much
every single week, and then everyone else is just like
social media. I kind of keep up with enough.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
But they were at the wedding, so all the big
events we always try to get together.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Nice. Nice Kevin. You did Traders in Canada?
Speaker 7 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah, really cool one. Yeah yeah, it's really cool.
It was like a fun, fun show, Like it was
a lot of fun. They reached out kind of last
minute and said they filmed it in Montreal in like
this huge mansion. And actually the host of the Canadian
one is the best host of all the franchises. Really,
she's like French Canadian. She's like she plays the part
perfect and you can't ever see her out of character,
(12:41):
Like every time we saw heran off camera, she's fully
done up.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
Like ready to go full character.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
So it was really cool, the exact same premise as
the American one.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
I ended up.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
I got sent home at the last roundtable, and I
my problem was I made a final two with two people,
and one of them I was serious about and I
just didn't reiterate enough with her that she was my
final two and if she would have not written my
name down, we had like the.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Ending right to the end of two l us and like.
Speaker 7 (13:12):
It sucks because she's like the sweetest lady, like a
teacher from Edmonton, and we were just gonna ride off
and do two faithful at the end, and then she
wrote my name down because the girls got their hooks
in her.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Was there anyone else on it that we would know?
Speaker 7 (13:25):
It was like Big Brother Canada players and more along
that line.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Yeah, but I didn't know everybody. I didn't really know anybody. No.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
I feel like Neda the girl that one was like
the big Canadian girl that most people went recognice from
Big Brother.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
But and there's my drag race. Yeah, there was a Yeah,
Melinda was from Canada's Drag Race. And then there was
my friend Lauren.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
She's just on the cover of Sports Illustrats swimsheet issue
like this Laurence time. She's a model from New York.
Really cool, really really cool. Yeah, I just thought I
just got the in the.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's sick.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
You had a crazy like your reality journey is like
so under the table.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I feel like like no, but like every time, like yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Home first week, he's there all ten episodes, every show
he does well.
Speaker 6 (14:20):
Because you did Bachelor Atte Canada and you got engaged
on that, didn't you, And then you did Winter Game.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
Bachelor Winter Games, Bachelor Winter Winter Games, and you ended
up dating someone from.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
That, right, it was like we won the show, Okay,
well you know it's public information. And then he met Astro,
and then you did Bachelor Paradise Canada you were the bartender,
which I think count and then you did Traders.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
You're rivaling Joe for the amount of reality.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That was funny because there are like the least two
guys that are into this at all, Like they both
hated I feel and they're just kind of like along
for the.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Ride because we're like, no, come on, I want to
watch it on TV. Can you Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
They're like, I guess I'll do another one.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
I think the only part I like is the filming part.
Like I don't really like the build up. I don't
love watching it. I don't really watch much.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
It's like I like, like the game show is the
coolest part, Like I would love you like put yourself
into a game show and it's kind of you versus everyone,
which is obviously not the Bachelor world. So Traders was
like a new we love to do amazing, Amazing Race
Canada is what I'd like to do.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I feel like they would definitely are you guys in
talks at all with what?
Speaker 7 (15:30):
That the same production as Traders, So we just just
because our kids are so young, we kind of shut
it down this year, but maybe next year because it's
it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
That would be a fun one to do.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
That would be cool. You see so much of Canada too,
which would be amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Yeah, Astra, would you do Traders?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I feel like I don't. I love watching all the shows.
Like he I watched Traders US and he's like, what
is this you're watching? Like, oh my god, such a
good stroke like show. It's this murder my string. He's isn't, like, no,
I'm good. I don't want to watch it. So I
feel like if I did the shows, it would kind
of ruin it for me. Like I feel the same
way about like House would be like the one thing
(16:07):
it's I ever Bravo that would be my like, okay, the.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Toronto they need one.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's crazy how different, Like just like seeing you guys
today and like thinking back on like our season of
Paradise and just like kind of even even our season
of Paradise, just like it was so different, Like the
mindset was so different because social media was like there,
(16:40):
but like people weren't really coming off the show making
a living off of social media, so it was really
we were all just like like after after we filmed Paradise,
it was like, all right, let's all go to l
A and like hang out and for a weekend. Yeah,
like everyoneuld go home, But yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
It was the how do you guys think if you
were to go on the show now, is there anything
you would do differently or like a different approach you
would take to it, just having like done the show
before and now knowing like how much it's transformed.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I mean personally, I actually think the only approach is
to always just actually be yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Like I think when you try to like think ahead
too much or free plan too much, it just doesn't
ever work out.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I think when it happens organically on any show, it
kind of always works the best.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
Yeah, it seems to work less for the people that
are putting on the show, Like I feel like that
it's kind of the boring people that end up succeeding
in the long run. If you look at all like
the successful couples, they're like not the ones that are
in speedos or throwing stuff in the ocean, or like,
you know, do it all the stuff I'm thinking of
our season, just all the extra bs that goes on.
It's always just like the normal people that go on
and treat it more like a social experiment.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Meet everybody.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
I was trying to meet all the guys, all the girls,
have a good time with everybody, and you just kind
of find your way to somebody that you click with
and then take it from there.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I'd probably do the exact same thing if if I
did it again.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, you guys were you guys were locked in pretty early.
I mean I would take it like day two or three.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Yeah, two or three, you're just yeah, and then people
come in and you realize you've already hung out for
a week with someone and someone comes in and it's
almost like, you know, even at a bar talking to
someone for an hour and someone else comes up to you,
you're already interested in the person for the hour, so
you're just brushing the other person off. I think that's
the way with Paradise. Once you get to know somebody,
that relationship already trumps anything new that's coming in, so
(18:27):
you just kind of brush.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
Everyone I was off.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Yeah, Well, I guess that's the advantage of being down
there early too, versus having to come in late. It's
like a lot of people are so locked in and
as people that are like more normal and like we're
locked in early. Also, like I agree, if you're looking
to find a serious relationship, you think like your person
might be there just like chilling out and locking in
as the move. But also I'm like so grateful for
the other people that like are stirring shit up because
(18:51):
it's like you let me just lay.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
On a cot and like talk about you. Well, I
don't have to do as much.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Other people's drama, and seeing how the other person takes
it in actually tells you a lot about that person.
Because if somebody's doing something crazy and he thinks it's
funny and I think, oh, it's kind of offensive. Yeah,
that kind of tells me a lot about his personality,
and I'm like, Okay, maybe we're not on the same.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Page about things, so yeah, so true.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
But a lot of people go on the show, and
I'm sure it's changed in your eyes too since we
were on it, where now that it can be turned
into more of a career if you wanted to take it,
Like the public eye view if your motives.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Are into that only when you go into it. Like
we talked about it a little bit on our season.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
I feel like a lot of people that put on
a big show, they get home, they start posting, and
some people are like, well, you're as crazy as I
thought you were.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
That was just yeah, you build like a more authentic
connection with the people that are watching.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Well, that's because they could relate. I think most people,
most people want to be able to relate with the
person on TV, and like it would be like I
feel silly acting that way, so I'm not going to
do it, you know. Yeah, what do you guys? Have
you guys heard about the changes as far as olden
people are now at it too?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah, people will be there, which I think if there's
too much cross age dating it could get kind of weird.
I'm hoping it's there for like advice, Like I'm hoping
it's like the Golden People day the.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Other people day.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Maybe like one cross dating would become fun and then
it's just like having that like listening ear of the
older people giving advice.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
Maybe because I can't see this at all, I can't
see that the crossover one picturing first of all, if
you're single in your seventy what advice are you giving?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well so much that passed? Yeah, yeah, I guess we
can take them out of that equation, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Seventy year old boys we've never settled.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Down would be a different story.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
It's a different show.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
But yeah, but the cross dating might might be interesting.
I guess. Yeah, it was my thirties, we're old. Yeah,
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
What do you think about Costa Rica?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Now?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I'm a little sad about you know, the Cellulita.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Yeah, I guess it's just nostalgic and to see it
every season, having like Matt and gotten engaged there, we're like, oh,
like sentimental, but okay, does.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
He go or not? I think he's been poor. Hey,
I'm pretty sure it has been gone for like many seasons. Yeah. Yeah,
this last season was like our season, I think.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Yeah, But I also like some of these shows, like
especially a show is like I guess it's been around
as long as the bastly, like a good facelift is
like one day you'll look at, say, twenty years from now,
and it's had twenty good six seasons in Costa Rica.
It's still pretty cool to look back and you're like, oh,
do you remember that's how it used to be, Like it's
going to be that way.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Every show is going to.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Kind of change definitely the.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Same way thing and change hosts or change locations. It's
the same kind of thing. You just kind of move
on from it.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
But pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
Costrick is beautiful. I'm excited for like the evolution of
the show. I'm excited to see like visually what it
looks like, like the new set and everything.
Speaker 7 (22:02):
I'm actually wondering is the resort just going to be
back to like we can go there now? And because
that would be a cool trip to take, just go
and like book a room and stay there for a
few nights.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Where we could, we could It's always been it's always
been an option, so even like off season, you could
book it. But you know, Bachelor goes in there and
decorates it because it looks much different, Like I've looked
it up online.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
It's like they want to take off I think they
like take off the doors and like there's a lot
done to it. Yeah, right, So it wouldn't necessarily it
would be the same location, but I know if it
would feel necessarily the same because they like do so
much to it.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 7 (22:42):
Cool if you were staying close by and you went
down and used the beach for a day or something.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Yeah, definitely again because we haven't been back.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
So yeah, you guys haven't been back as a guest
or anything since your season.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
We went to shoeing Crystal's wedding.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Sorry this is Joe Joe. Oh yeah, I was there too.
I was at that wedding.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Wedding, but that was it.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That was the last time we went back to So
we went back.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Nice. What advice would you give to a couple, a
successful couple that comes off the show for this season
as far as adjusting in the real world and you
guys both like we have, we've had the same I
don't want to call it an issue, but like Canadian
us like all that shit.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Well, I think even when you're on the show, like,
it's not a bad thing to talk about location right
off the hop because how many times do you hear
them come off and then it's one didn't want to
move or the other one couldn't do that, you know,
even state to state for us, it was day three
by the time I was saying, dastard, I want to
retire a firefighter, so I gotta stay where I'm at
And she was like, oh, and from Europe. Toronto was
(23:52):
so similar, like I love it, and it kind of
helped us get into it. I'm sure you guys are
a similar similar tumble where it wasn't like a deterrant
big oh she's Canadian and he's American. It was like
something you have to figure out so even safe to stay.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
And I just say, you got to figure.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
That out early on because you want to come off
in the first issue and be like, well, I'm not moving.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Are you moving?
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yeah, you definitely talk.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
You just kind of have to take that leap of faith.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Like I think if you don't just like fully commit
to the relationship right away, then you're just kind of playing.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Pretend for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Then you get caught up in the validation of fans
and this and what people are saying. I think you
just have to like take a leave of faith, dive in,
and just focus on your relationship and then see what
happens and then everything else just kind of goes from
there and try.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
To have fun with the like a little bit of
notoriety you get because it is kind of fun off
the hop like we enjoyed you know, the people wanting
to ask us questions about it.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
We enjoyed doing interviews. It was like it was kind
of a fun.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
Exciting part to do together because then eventually it goes
away and now now nobody really cares. We're just kind
of the people that met on the show. So you
enjoy it too, like, don't just brush it by. Kind
of enjoy the time and enjoy and make the most
of it.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah. Yeah, I always say that. I think that's just
so important to have the conversation of like will you move?
Will I move? Like we have to figure that out
because if you're going to go come off the show
and play the long distance game for a year, it's
like it's going to be really hard to make that work.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
And it's just going to make that decision harder a
year later, right because because then you've been together, and
it makes it way more difficult because now you're just.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Break right out.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
That's our advice, Astra, Did you move right away? Did
you like? How immediate? Was that?
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Pretty much?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
So we have filmed in June and then our season
got done airing in September, and then we moved into
our condo in December of that year, so it was
like less than six months after we met I was moving.
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Yeah, I think we were ten months because your lease
was up in the spring, but I was in Chicago
a lot that year.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, yeah, And it's like moving initially because you're just
like moving countries and trying to figure it all out
all the kayo.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Congrats on your green cart things things.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah, I know, it's been a long road.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
I was thinking about you actually because I was like, Damn,
when I changed my name, will eventually have to do
all the paperwork and all the things.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I know, I still haven't done all of it, like
all my passports, my you know, residency court, all of
the important stuff has changed. But like random bill wasn't
like random credit cards that I forgot about.
Speaker 6 (26:27):
Like yeah, I'm like I need to chill for a
second and then we'll tackle that down the line.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
No rush, Have you guys been keeping up at all
with like the past few seasons of the shows or
anybody you'd want to see in this upcoming season of Paradise.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I mean, I'm just we haven't.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
We haven't really, we just know, like the main kind
of stuff like will fill me in, but I kind
of want to see people like, maybe not as far
back as ten years, but it'd be cool if they
started sprinkling in, not just like the most current men
current women put together.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
But it's always cool to see.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
The one guy or one girl from five years ago
come on that maybe got out of a relationship or
as fresh and single and then they make a big splash.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
So I always just think that's cool because the people
are looking them up, like which season is that guy
on it?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Which where is that It kind of creates more of
a buzz than just the most current you know, seven
most featured girls and guys get together.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
But totally well.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
And the thing with those people is they've usually met
or interacted because they've all come off the show around
the same time and they've had some time and they've
been at a bar in LA and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Like our season was fun because.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
There was a lot of people surprise, like Joe and
Tia and Becca that were like from the past that
we're coming back, and I feel like the fans of
that too.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's always why I look forward to
and I'm looking forward to the Golden People too, I
guess because I feel like I've been watching Golden Baster
Baster Red. I haven't watched the other one, so I
actually know the Golden People better than the young.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
People, so I'm excited. I just like seeing older people tap.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Like I see a couple in their eighties holding hands,
I just think that's the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
So that's what I'll be watching for.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
Do you have a favorite from Golden that you want
to see down there?
Speaker 2 (28:15):
So we love them all.
Speaker 5 (28:16):
They're like all so good, Like.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
I love alsome love and I feel like the younger one,
like it's a little bit more caddy and like and
I go to Housewives for that, So like I love
I just love the wholesomeness of the and like the
camaraderie of the people too, right, Like that's like the
part when you film the show it's like our Bachelor's
like okay, whatever, It's like we were hanging out with
all of the girls, Like that's the part that was fun.
(28:41):
So then I also like seeing like all the old
guys hanging out with each other and the girls, Like
I think that part is always fun. So I think
that part will be really funny seeing some of the
older guys and younger people like having those funny moments.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I think it was time to change locations because I
don't know if any senior citizen can handle Cellulita.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Well, Costa Rica is pretty it's it's really hot and
humid as well.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
It was also just like a lot of stairs, a
lot of like ups and downs, like bunk beds like there.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
They changed it to a comedy for I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Actually maybe maybe I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Were getting up getting up to the girls room, like
what was a lot of stairs?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
We we were actually like we're like recapping Bachelor pad
because they just put it on Bachelor Nation's YouTube channel.
Have you ever seen how fucking batshit crazy that show was,
like before the morphed in the Bachelor in Paradise competitions
and stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Right, yeah, we just watched episode two and it's like
they're in the Bachelor mansion.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
It's just a different time of tea there.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Over Reality TV actually is my favorite thing in general.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
You should watch this. You should watch it. It's on
YouTube like things.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
On television and how it was okay.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
To the air some of this stuff they're saying about
each other is like genuinely so mean.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
So fansais, let's changed the show a bit too, right,
Like now we're all just like hyper aware of what
we're saying and how it comes off and how people
perceive it.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Like old school were out like two thousand and two
to two thousand and eight.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Not okay.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
The wood girl walked up to this So the guy,
the one guy on the show is like a like
a fan, right. They bring some fans show.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, like alumni cast members, and then they threw in
like five super fans of the show.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
And this girl walks up to him because she finds
out that he's going to vote her. She walks up
to him shoes. I just want to let you know
I think you're ugly and I hate you. Oh my god,
Jesus fuck.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Like everyone's coming forever. Everyone's like physical.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Appearance but they're wearing their personality is like throw But yeah, I.
Speaker 7 (31:07):
Feel like it was ahead of its time, Like that
could be on like a streaming service, like a like
a hardcore reality map.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Back and do like competition stuff. See that's the reality
shows we love. Like if there's money involved, you can win.
That's what we love to watch. So if they bring
back Baxter.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Pat, yeah they should. I actually do think it was
ahead of its time a little bit.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Well essentially, I mean that's kind of Kevin isn't Wasn't
that kind of similar to how Winter Greens was? Could
you win money in Winter Games? Was there?
Speaker 7 (31:37):
Winter Games was premised on like the Olympics were going on,
and you know, the NBC are so massive that we're like,
let's make it. Like I think it was Chris Harrison
to let's make a show that's like just let's put
them on ice. Let's but like you just see something
like let's see like Ben Higgins skate and a leotard,
like like there's some pretty good scenes because we all
are like not Olympic athletes, but they tried to make
(31:58):
us Olympic.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Oh were they made? Can you do like activities challenges?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (32:03):
So like the first one, like we did downhill skiing,
which like Dean killed us all he's from Colorado and
you know he killed And then we had to.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
Do speed skating and you were I were like in.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
Canada, so we got to wear like the full Canada
gear and everything, and it was like we did a
big parade.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Did watch the first episode you guys did the parade
where you guys were walking out with like your countries
and stuff like that.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
So they did like a mock Olympics Challenge style dating show.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
But were you all single?
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Yeah, Like if you won the comps, you got to
like get a date card for the night. And we
went back to the mansion and it was like, yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
We should bring back backster pad, but do it with
already established couple. So like crash the dating, but do
couples competing.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I've been preaching that for years, but nobody.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Nobody listens to people would watched, People would like that.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I remember watching. I watched like the first episode of
Winter Games because it was like it came out, I
want to say, like like five days before I was
leaving to go on Becka season and I was like
trying to like kind of get everything in and I
remember watching it and being like what am I doing?
Like what what? What? What Tolervan show? Am I about
(33:13):
to go on?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Gave me really bad anxiety.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, So you never watched Bachelor before you went on?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
No? No, I mean I.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Did, Yeah, And I mean you were familiar because you.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Have cousins and well I knew what the show was.
I mean there's people, there's people that we interview and
they're like, I've never even heard of it before. I
was like, okay, well you're fucking lying. You definitely heard everyone.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
The amount of shows that like reference The Bachelor too,
just in like pop culture is like every other show.
I feel like we're watching we were watching like what
like Rick and Morty and they referenced The Bachelor. Yeah,
shows you would not expect.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Yeah, I gotta stop saying I gotta stop swearing. My
mom text me the other day, she's like, stop saying
the effort on the podcast. You don't swear that much
in person. Like that is actually true. I actually do
say the effort in person, and on the now.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Says the word because we say quite a bit.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Oh it's so funny. I love it.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Oh it's the grown up words.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So then who wakes up in the morning and he'll
be like, Mommy, I'm not gonna say fun today.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I'm like, okay, you just said it. Though.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
It's the hardest things that all laugh because you're like, buddy,
we don't say no more.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
I promise.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I left just thinking about iPhone. Would little kids swear?
I fid that's so funny, which is a problem because
I know when.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
He's like playing with this dinosaur, he's like, I'm gonna
fucking get you.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Well that's what it's my context. Really, how do you
know get his little glasses kills me? He's so cute.
Speaker 5 (34:45):
He's the cut.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Would you guys ever let if when your kids get older,
would you ever let him go on reality TV? Not
a thing?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Good question.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I think it depends on the show, right, Yeah, a
reality TV like that's on that I wouldn't ever go on,
you know, and then there's like The Batcher it's like
nice and clean and you know, so it depends on
the show.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah, any I.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Mean once theory ten, you don't really have a choice.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Yeah, So I think it's just harder because it's like
I would say, like, yeah, of course, like I would
be a hypocrite if I didn't like fully support them
if that's something they wanted to do. I mean, there's
some shows that I would prefer them go on than
others are hypothetical non existent children. But at the same time,
I think there's like the anxiety of like, you know,
too much like I think it's a lot easier to
(35:36):
let your kid go on when you like have no
idea go down when you're there, and like what could
potentially happen after, Like we know so much both like
our story and like the not so cute stories of
being part of this show, so like I would just
have an additional layer of like caution.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
So I guess it depends on the kid too.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
If I felt like my kid was like smart and
level headed and yeah I'm so small, I'd be like, okay,
I try.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
But if my kid was a little crazy, yeah, and
like you.
Speaker 6 (36:03):
Know, yeah, I'd be like, I don't advise this knowing
who you are as a person, like even friends. I
have friends that I think would be great and I
have friends that I love, but I'd be like, I
don't think this is for you, Like you'll it's also
like one of the odds that like mommy and Daddy
had a great experience and it worked out, and it
works out for you guys, Like the odds are just
so low.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, right, true.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
You never know before we let you guys go, anything
you got upcoming, you want to share, anything, you want
to plug anything like that.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
You guys Chilling and Burton.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
You move in anytime, so well, first of all, before
I forget joke, whenever you're in Toronto, let's do around
to golf this summer.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Oh yeah, definitely, we're.
Speaker 7 (36:39):
I'm like thirty minutes from Toronto. When we can meet
in the middle. Oakfield has a lot of great courses.
We could we could meet somewhere in the middle and
do a do a round. I'm trying to break I
broke under one hundred and three times last year and
that's uh but okay, Yeah, I'm usually like between one
and one fifteen if I have like a I count
every stroke though, like I do need to count every
single I.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Don't tap in. I mean I don't. My buddy's on
Canadian Long Drive. He drives it like four hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
But he's been teaching me a lot of stuff and
he's always like, dude, you can take that.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
I'm like, no, because if I start taking the two putters,
I'll miss them.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
When does it end? When does it end? I agree? Yeah, definitely.
We just got an apartment in Toronto, so we'll be
there a lot.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
So yeah, we're excited.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
Itally fun and taking them into the beaches yet you
guys lived in the beaches for a while.
Speaker 7 (37:27):
We were in Liberty Village. Oh, we used to go
to the beaches like we have friends over there.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
But we were always we have been to Liberty.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
I took you Burger Drop, so it was like the
dead of winter, We'll take you to Liberty Village.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
It's cute over there.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
The only thing I'd like to plug is Astro and
I are running a fitness retreat.
Speaker 5 (37:43):
We've done one already. It's called Active Escapes.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
It's a company from Australia, but they've expanded to this
side of the world. So we ran the first one
in February and it's in Cancun. And basically it's a
week vacation where you just turn your brain off and
follow the schedule. Like yoga rich are really popular. It's
similar to that, but it's more intense. It's a little
more intense. You get like a morning morning beach workout.
(38:06):
Usually there's some kind of activity, whether it's a catamaran
or some kind of local sonte visit or whatever you do,
and then you do an afternoon weight training session and
a yoga session which she coaches, and then there's like
a party day there's like it's a really big social group.
I've done seven of them, but all over the world
(38:27):
and now that they've expanded Astro and I took on
this franchise in Cancun. So it's called Active Escapes if
you look it up, and our branch is Active Escaped
Cancun and the next one we run in December first.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Is it similar to surf yoga beer.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
So they stole it from Yeah.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
Really Active Escapes have been around for fifteen years.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
They have, I don't know, like I've been to the
one in Dubai.
Speaker 7 (38:51):
They got them in all over Indonesia and all over Australia,
like a lot of outside of the world. They do
like a boat retreat where the full in the Maldives
where you're on a boat for the whole week.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
It's like a yacht retreat.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It's just like a week of like fun workouts, drinking,
and people come as couples, people come by themselves, like
it's about half of our guests are usually it's looking
to meet new people. So it's a really fun way
you like working out and meeting new people.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
And some people will do some people will do one
workout in the first day and then you just only
see them about the social.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
Things really Okay, So it's like casual, it's very very casual.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 7 (39:26):
Everybody's are like the repeat guest is like in the
eighty percent, Like people are that are signed up have
usually already been do one, so it can get really addictive.
It's a lot of fun. So if anyone's looking for
like a before Christmas get away where you come back
a little bit fitter than you left, it's something to do.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Wait, that sounds so fun. I actually would love to
do something like that.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Our first trip ever post Paradise was to one in Bali,
and I at that point was like just doing yoga
and I literally thought I was going to die during
the hostital course.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And like, when you finish the week, you feel like
you can take on anything, like you're just like I'm
I can do three workouts a day and soldiering tequila
and nothing fazes me.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Okay, Well, everyone listening, be sure to check out Active Escapes.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Can you an edition?
Speaker 6 (40:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:11):
Maybe we'll go to the next.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, yes, and I'll definitely I'll definitely hit you up
for golf. And thank you guys so much for coming
on the podcast and to all our listeners. Thank you
for tuning in to best for Happy Hour.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
We will have more exclusive interviews coming your way. Thanks
for listening.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Bye,
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