October 31, 2023 • 39 mins
Today on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” Sandra is in the hot seat and giving new meaning to the phrase “75 years young”! In her discussion with Joe and Serena, Sandra reveals her first impressions of Gerry, who from the house she was closest with, and why a little drama was inevitable.
Plus, she explains how she and her daughter decided it would be okay for Sandra to miss her daughter’s wedding if needed and why she’s so nervous to see the blooper reel at the upcoming “Women Tell All.”
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to a Bacher happy hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I am Joe and I am Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
And we are here with none other than Sondra from
the Golden Bacher. Sondra, how the fuck are you?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
You know I had to leave with the fuck just
because I know that your think, well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Just own that. It's okay, we love it. Okay, Hey Joe, Hi, Hi,
how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm doing pretty dog one good.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
How have you been feeling with all this craziness in
your face on TV everywhere?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I've been feeling great, you know, a little pumped. And
my friends tell me we don't see enough of you,
and I say, hey, it's a forty minute show. There's
a lot going on besides me.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
But yeah, well what we do see, I think is
everyone everyone has falling in love with you. We saw
you play pickleball and you're flying around the court. We
see you walk in you you're swearing at Gary, but
you make it fun. I'm talking about out of the
(01:15):
out of the limo. Out of the limo is I
have to ask you swearing does that help you calm
your nerves? Because it does help me.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, since Mike stepping out of a Limo No, but
before that, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, what changed?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh, I don't know. I you know, what I'm finding
out is that the younger generation. You know, my oldest
is fifty, but that's a young generation for me, and
young folks loved my Limo exit folks more my generation
Mike demographic were a little skeptical about that. So that
(01:54):
seems to be the feedback I'm getting.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Well, you know what, there's actually scientific SETI is that
prove that swearing has like an effect on the brain,
like some sort of like chemical release or release of energy.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That is I'm serious, not I'm not just liken't me
like I'm crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
There's something that's proven that like swearing releases I don't
know what it is exactly, but like endorphins are something
that like actually helps you calm down, or like it
provides like a release of energy that helps you calm down.
That's why people like swear when they like stub their
toe or something, or like they're frustrated. There's like an
actual reason for it, so you can tell you can
tell your friends that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh and that's a good one, thank you, Serena. However,
is that you know there are a lot of swear
words out there, and the AF isn't necessarily America's choice
or older America's choice.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Okay, okay, so maybe if it was a different swear word.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, well that's okay.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I feel like you came out and you you surprise people.
Whether it was a good way or a bad way,
you got their attention. You definitely got Gary's attention because
we've seen you through this journey and that's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, here's the thing. I look like a school
teacher ish and a librarian, so people don't expect me
to spew a word like that. So it has its
shock value, and I guess it worked.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It definitely it worked. We we know. I've heard you're
a you're a big football fan. Do you did you
happen to see Stephen A. Smith talking about talking about Sondra?
Did you see that?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I did see that, And of course I saw Stephen A.
Smith and I saw that. Now he was all over
in Natasha and he got my age wrong, but at
least he got me, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
He got your you're in there. I think he said.
I think he said Sondra could get it. I think
that's what he.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Said, really, I didn't see this. That's so cool. He's
a he's a football player.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, yeah, he's an analyt. What what what is your
Do you have an NFL team?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
No, I have thirty two teams.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, all the team, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I have a league. I always say I have a league.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Interesting, who's your who's your favor who's your favorite player
in the league? You got a player.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I enjoy watching Mahomes. I watched the I like watching
the connection between him and Kelsey. You know, and in
the past there have been a lot of quarterback tight
end relationships that have made me feel good about the sport.
You know that the connection they have.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
How do you feel about Travis Kelsey dating Taylor Sweft?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I do.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That's what's running minimama.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think, you know, it's fun. People are fun with it,
and they are having fun with it, whether they admit
it or not. I you know, America is always looking
for love and romance, and and when you've got two
heroes like that, one hero and one hero, you know,
it makes for good feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So, yeah, what were you married to an NFL player
at one point in your life? I was, Okay, who.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
His name is Lindsay Mason. Okay, a left tackle for
the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, wow, how did you to meet?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
We actually met at a racquetball court and he and
some of his co workers were playing slash practicing and
I was playing and somehow we bumped into each other
in the corridor and started chatting. And I'll tell you
how I got hooked on this game because he invited
me to watch him at a game. And I knew
(05:30):
a little something about football, you know what I learned
in high school going to games and cheerleading. But so
invited me to a game, and then after the game,
I said, tell me what you do out there? What
is your role? And he started explaining to me he's
a tackle, an offensive tackle. That means that he does
(05:50):
pass protection and run blocking. So then I said, okay,
explain that. And little by little, I was getting tutorials
on Monday nights when he wasn't working. And back then
they only had Sunday and Monday night football, so that
was my tutorial time. And I got all the x's
and o's and I was fascinated. I just grabbed me
(06:13):
and there was always something to learn. Even to this day,
there is something to learn about this game that I
didn't know the game before, and I don't know. My
mind just sucks it up. The last thing I googled
here was the the NFL rule changes changes for this season. Yeah,
so there's.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Some always changing something. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, they have to because they've got a product to
protect and it's the players.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's true. That's true. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I feel like my issue getting into football is that
I just don't understand what's happening most of the time.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So it's so I need to come watch it with you,
and you can.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Say, if you had some instruction, you might get engaged,
you might really understand. It's about real estate, you know,
getting down and scoring on someone else's real estates. But Serenay, honey,
I'll talk to you off camber here and get you
started if you like.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay, let's do it well, Sondra, you know what, in
my defense, I have football on. It's on the TV
Saturday morning at ten am, and it doesn't it doesn't
go off the TV till Sunday night at at ten pm.
And Serena, you know what she does, She goes in
the other room.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, I've tried a little bit with you and me, Joe.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I know because I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay, So let's let's you You were single for twenty
nine years? Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Do you want to talk about that in terms of
in terms of why why were you single? Were you?
Did you within those twenty nine years? Did you really
did you date it all? Or were you just kind
of over it?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah? Single meaning I wasn't married? Oh right, yeah, yeah,
I dated, of course. Oh. Let me tell you guys, Yeah,
yeah dated.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I have.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Double dated, I have blind dated, I have always speed dated,
I have online dated, and now i've TV dated.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Wow. Wow, What has been your favorite? What would you suggest?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Well, all of them, because I think you know, they're
all valuable in trying to find the right person, you know,
and if one doesn't work, keep going. And I would
blind date again, I would double date again. I would
do all of those, you know, in my pursuit. Now,
this is not something that happens every weekend, every week,
you know, especially since it's football season, but even otherwise,
(08:39):
I don't, you know, I'm not out there trying to
be mister goodbar, but but I know that I want
a companion in my life and my oasis. I want
to be his oasis and it's important my kids want
me to do so.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So Saja, we know it doesn't work out with Gary,
but we don't know if there is going to be
a Golden Bachelorette. If there is, is that something that
you are intrigued you would you like to be the
Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I would do it tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Really, Okay?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Why because they're motivated like I I want to I
want to mister Wright in my life. I want I
don't want to just date. I want a a committed, serious,
let's have fun in our golden years relationship. It's important,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And if you no, go ahead yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Going to say, I think I'm still viable and I
have energy, and I have desire, and I there's things
to do in life and with someone like watch football,
but other things as well, other activities. Yeah, I'm motivated. Guys,
can you tell you're honestly?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You're you are? You are the definition of seventy five
years young and what we saw like honestly, we are
watching you playing pickleball and just on this show in general,
and you look like you would have changed what I
pictured as a seventy five year old person like you. Honestly,
(10:22):
you look great, you move you It's just it's it's incredible.
And you were literally the one person on the pickleball
court flying around.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Thank you, true you were.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
We saw you dive into the crowd and hit the bolla.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Joe I was like, how old is Sodra. I was like,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know, we look at all the ages in the
first episode, but then we kind of forgot as this
season went on and he was like, oh my gosh,
Srina Sodra is seventy five.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I was like, no way, no, she's not. You like,
what is your secret?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
What do you like for aging screens outside on the outside?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We want to know all the secrets.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Okay, Well, first of all, I liked the game of pickball.
I've never played it before, but I was intrigued about it.
So I got some instructions from Joey, kind of one
on one how to hold that racket? You know what
exactly is the endeavor? Here? Give me my give me
my parameters. But but I I've always been athletic. Doesn't
mean I've had athleticism, but I've always had that desire
(11:22):
to to play some kind of sport, and I used
to play racketball, so kind of familiarity with the walls,
of course, but so I'm competitive sports wise, so and
so the pickleball was Yeah, I was probably the only
one flying around because I wanted to win that dog
(11:44):
on contest. I really did.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
What's your what's your nightcare routine?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Okay, you know, I just wash up, take the day off,
and I have a moisturizer that I use. You know,
I think, here, you guys, let me tell you what
I think is the reason that my skin responds so
well to Mother nature and almost one. I don't drink alcohol.
Now that's going to turn a lot of people off.
(12:14):
Doesn't mean you can't drink alcohol. I never I think
it's a wholesome thing for people to do, but I
never acquired the taste. But I think in the long
run it has made a difference. I don't know. I
don't live in the sun. You know. I'm one of
those ladies that's in the shade. If I'm out in
(12:34):
the sun and the heat, I'll find shade because I
know that sun is damaging. And I also am always
wearing an SPF fifty or higher. Just you know, and
I'm bother words, I'm fighting, mister son, I really am.
And then other than that, my mom looked young when
she was my well, she didn't live to my age,
(12:56):
but when she was an older lady, when she was
in her golden year, she she looked younger. I thought
she did. And so I'm guessing that's it. I get.
I do have an aesthetician and she kind of gives
me some treatments on my skin. You know, I see
her walk every three months. But you know, nothing miraculous,
you guys, It's just it's just.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Sondra.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I wear sunscreen every day and I'm brown, so obviously
don't really burn. It's just to protect my skin. I
tell Joe he's Joe never wears sunscreen. I'm rearing senstry
right now. I'm in the house. I have sunscreen on
every single morning. Joe is a white man, and he
could use the sunscreen because his cheeks get burnt, and
(13:40):
he never ever wears it because he likes to get tan.
And I always tell him he's so big on all
of this stuff for anti aging in terms of yeah,
he knows he has good skincare, but he's like into
cold plunges and you know, fasting and sunlight in the
mornings and all of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And I'm like, but what you're missing is the sun screen.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I love to get a little I love, I love,
I love.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
That's fine, Joe for now, because you're cutie. But you
two are seventy five or whatever age. You know, Serena
is gonna be hot and you're gonna be not hot.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I'm just saying, Talo, Sandra, how about how about exercise, Sondra?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do you exercise regularly?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I do. I have Silver Sneakers classes twice a week,
and then at home here I have a treadmill. And
so when I'm watching my other love, which is Wheel
of Fortune, I'm on the treadmill.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You've been on Wheel of Fortune, and.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I've been hooked. I've been hooked for well, they've been
on for forty forty one. Season's just about and I
was hooked from day one, just like I was hooked
on football, fascinated with it.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And so my my mother's really goes. She's like every
time Wheel of Fortune she guesses it immediately. Did you
how far did you go? Did you win?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I won a little over thirty one. Oh my gosh,
and that was in nineteen eighty eight. That was a
lot of money back.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, So what did you enjoy more? Wheel of Fortune
or being on the Golden Bachelor?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You know, I think that what I call the GB.
I think the GB because more you know, meeting women
and the whole living away from home.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You know, just being a longer, more intense process. The
Wheel was well several years of being focused and being
a student, but one day of shoot.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So you know a little bit of a shorter adventure.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah. I've also I was also on the the newlyweb
game a gazillion years ago.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Okay, Wowsadra is an experienced reality TV contested.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yes, there's been so many gaps between that. Who knows,
maybe another ten fifteen years I'll be on another game show.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Or so is there is there is there a game
show that you would love to do or a reality
show that you watch and go, oh that would be
that would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yes, I would love to go on the Wheel of
Fortune again. And I would love to go on this
Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I don't know, Well, they're back to back, aren't they live?
Like is it?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Wheel of Fortune is on because I feel like whenever
we used to watch the show live, we would catch
the end of Wheel of Fortune. So you can go
do Wheel of Fortune and it could be Sondra's episode,
and then the next can be the premiere of Sondra's
season of The Golden Baucherrett.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But in my market, there there's a half an hour between,
and that's fine. That gives me time to prep okay
for watching the GB.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
So yes, refresh your mocktail, get a snack, and then
settle in.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And you you live, you live in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I live in one of the those communities in it. Okay,
but everybody says that land.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, have you are you? Have you lived in Atlanta
your whole life?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Or that?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You know interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I was born here in Atlanta, but I was raised
in San Francisco. I moved back here about twenty two
years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Okay, yeah, do you miss San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I visit. I go back and visit it. It's changed dramatically,
of course. And yeah, and my my children live in
southern cows so and I but I have friends in
the Bay Area, so I have reason to go and visit. Obviously,
college mates, you know, Yeah, my heart is still there.
Is that what you're thinking?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, that's what. That's what. That's what I was.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I left part of it there, your heart in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Okay, so let's let's go a little bit. Let's go
to the show. Let's bring it to the show. Let's
talk a little bit about Gary. So you get out
of the limo, you make Gary laugh. You know, it's
your first time on the Bachelor, at the Bachelor. What
are your thoughts on Gary when you first meet him?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Well, he looked very much like he did on Good
Morning America when they introduced him on July seventeenth. You see,
I remember that and just in real life, and of
course my hands were probably shaking, and but it was,
you know, the whole the whole process was intriguing to me.
(18:29):
And of course Gary was too. He was the object
there and and he's a good.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Looking gent Is he your typical type? Like do you
have a type?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well, in some respects, yeah, I like tall men, I
like facial hair. I like men who have family, were
engaged with their families. I should say, an intelligent man,
which he certainly seemed to be.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
He definitely can't pay he definitely can't play offensive line
for the for the Los Angeles or Las Vegas raiders
will tell you.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That that is correct, but you know millions of men can't,
so that is true.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's true. So do you feel did you have a
connection with Gary and when did you first feel that?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Oh? Boy, yes, of course there was a connection. Now
I describe it as love, of course. But our our
chats were feeling fulfilling, and you know, he was learning
about me and I was learning about him. Of course,
I don't know if I remember exactly when it clicked.
(19:46):
I don't think Limo night because there was so much
going on with the whole Zen thing and then the bug.
Maybe you remember the bug. I didn't. I didn't really
get a chance to connect with him that evening, so
it might have been our next chat together. I think
that's that's probably. And looking into those what I call
old blue eyes two point oh.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, a lot of people have said he has really
really blue eyes. We have not had the pleasure of
meeting Gary in person yet, but I'm intrigued to see
these eyes in person.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Well, you know, in my generation, but in my mom's generation,
I think Frank Sinatra was old blue eyes, and so
that's why I called Gary blue eyes two point zho.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh, I like that. That's cute, do you.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
So we've seen you in a couple group dates, and
I feel like the one, like we talked about earlier
that you like really shined on was this pickleball group date.
You have a conversation with Gary and you talk about
how you're missing your daughter's wedding and he allowed kind
of not allowed, but gifted you, I guess, with like
a FaceTime with your daughter.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
What did that moment mean to you?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Oh? It was mixed, nervous. You know, he's surprised, so
it was odd, you know, what are you at?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Why is this phone here? But so I was nervous.
I was so grateful. It was so thoughtful, creative, it
was it was perfect. It was the perfect thing to do.
And that day having it felt really good about the
pickle ball and then getting my one on one with
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Gary and then and then seeing my daughter and my
new son in law's face. It was it was, It
was beautiful, It really was.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
What was that a tough decision to to have to
miss your daughter's wedding to go on this show?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yes, and no Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You know, my daughter and I talked about this h
when when when I was being vetted for this show
and keeping our fingers crossed. But at the same time,
I knew they were going to try to get married
during the summer, had yet picked out a date. But
as it turns out, that the two collided her date
and the airing of the show, and or I'm sorry,
(22:05):
the filming of the show, and so we had several
conversations about it, and the bottom line, my daughter said
to me, mommy, she said, I've got my man, you
go get yours. So she gave me her blessings and
and you know, we hugged and boooed, and I said, baby,
you're right, You're right. And so it was tough, but
(22:28):
what she said made sense. You know, this is a once,
once in a chance, once in the once. What am
I saying? Once in a lifetime, once in a lifetime opportunity.
Thank you guys. Yeah, so I'm getting all tearing now,
don't yeh.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Serena and I, Serena and I had that conversation. We
were talking about like how how you would feel, and
that's kind of how I broke it down, is it
is you know, it is a once in a lifetime
opportunity and chance, and I just feel like it's it's
just something that like you can't pass up. And I
think that's just wonderful that your daughter pushed you to
(23:08):
go do it, because that is a selfless act on
her part, and I think it was I think it
was the right decision. And I believe you mentioned it
wasn't her first marriage, correct, This is our second marriage.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Both of them, each of them have been married once
before quite some time before. But he's a really good guy.
I couldn't ask for a better son in law. It's
another blessing in our lives.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Well, on that pickleball date, you know, we had that
beautiful moment with you and Gary, and then we also
had a little bit of drama with the girls. You know,
Kathy and Teresa are not getting along.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
They've been going at it, they've been going at this.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
They clearly do not see eye to eye on this situation.
What was your opinion about the situation going on in
the Well, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I wasn't privy to a lot. I knew there was
something happening, but I didn't know the who said what
he said? She said, she said, she said, I guess
I didn't know these specifics, so but it hurt me
a little because I wanted, you know, kumbaya. I wanted
(24:22):
everyone to get along. I wanted there not to be consternation.
I want, you know, I wanted the US Golden Ladies
to shine such that there would not be any drama
to reflect on.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
So I saw, I'm sorry, no, it's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I saw more on television than I did when I
was there.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So yeah, people forget that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I actually forget that sometimes watching because having been on
the show. I remember doing interviews and Phil being like,
what do you think of this and this? And I
was like, honestly, I didn't know any of that was
going on, right, which is kind of a blessing in
disguise at the time. Who were you close with on
the show? Who were like your closest girls that you
know you still talk to?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Oh, it was just the girls, because there's some of
the crew that I loved to death. But my roomy, Leslie,
she and I became close, especially after we lost Joni
and then after we lost Christina and there was just
the two of us in the room. You know, we
we we bonded some more. She's a great she's a
great person, and I love her. Let me just say
(25:30):
I love her. And and then you know, I enjoyed
several of the other ladies. Doesn't mean I did enjoy
the others, but my I enjoyed speaking with Edith uh
beautiful spirit, beautiful woman. And I am. Let's see Ellen,
who was a hoot. Yeah, I liked me some, Allen.
(25:51):
She's she just she was a hoot. Liked me some, Allen. Okay,
And so that's that's probably the strongest that I felt
connected to.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And then unfortunately we see you Ellen and Susan go
home this week. Going into that Row ceremony, how did
you feel were you? Were you shocked at all? Did
you kind of make peace with it? And were there
other women like Leslie were like her connection with Gary
is much stronger than mine at this point.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Well, I recognized that my relationship with Gary had not
advanced as it has had with other ladies. I could
see that. And you know, there were three roses, and
that means I had less than probably a fifty percent
chance of being selected for hometowns. And I was prepared,
(26:52):
you know, I just had to ration that what was
happening and who was there. I didn't know specifically the
connection with other ladies, but I had a sense of
who he was more attracted to, had more affinity for.
So I prepared myself. And I'm a big girl. Yeah. Yeah, No,
(27:18):
I'm not saying I was excited about leaving. I was not,
but I just had to. I had to have a
Sondra to Sondra talk and we got along very well
in that discussion.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's good watching you back in the show. I just
think you did a wonderful job. I don't think you
should have any regrets. But do you have any regrets? No?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yes, maybe I do have regt Maybe I regret about
some of the garments that I brought. I mean, nothing
heavy duty regrets. Let me think about or just a second,
you know what, maybe maybe just a minor regret about
the limo, uh stepping out of the limo. As I
see the feedback and as I stated earlier, you know,
(28:13):
the younger folks loved it, thought it was a who
golden folks not so much. But so you know, that
was a bit of a consternation for me. So that's
maybe the only regret.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, and watching someone like Gary Navigate dating twenty five
whatever it was, twenty five thirty women and thing about
potentially maybe maybe you do get asked to be the
Golden Bachelorette. What would you take from how he handled
it that you would that you would do the same
(28:47):
and or do different?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You know, that's all that's I like that question. I
really like that question. Yeah, good for you. I think
I would try to. Yes, i'd watch back all the
shows and watch him. But then there's also a culmination.
It's a culmination of watching. Having been a fan of
the Bachelor and Bachelorette franchise, I've seen a lot of
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these similar situations Gary was in. So I think he
was patient, and so I think that being in that
role requires a lot of patients and really again, a
lot of self talks, a lot of the what is
is a lot of self negotiation and self compromise and
(29:34):
listening to the folks who are there to guide me
through the process. But you know, when it comes to
emotions and love, it's easy to speak these words, but
who knows when you're in that situation. True, I've never
had two fellas vibe for my attention at one time
(29:56):
that I'm aware of, so you know, starting with twenty three,
twenty five or whatever it would be. That's a daunting
jast to try to feel.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I don't know. If I don't know, if I can
fully buy then I feel like there's been well there's
been times in your life where you had a few
guys gotten after you.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I didn't know it the case, I didn't know it,
but thank you. Job's there's a compliment in there.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Should we play? You want to play a game?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I have one more question first, So Sandra, we have
the women ta all coming up. What are you excited
you're going to be going and filming it soon? You're
and we reunited with some of your other castmates, some
of the other women. What are you most excited for
for the tell all? And what are you most nervous for?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Well, I'm excited to see everyone again. I mean we
we all at some level had a friendship and I'm
and which was quickly eating away, but just because we
there were departures. But I want to see everyone again
and I just think that's gonna feel so good just
and catch up and chit chat. How's it been for you,
(31:13):
What's what's life like? How's the grand babies, on and
on and now what I what I'm fearful of is
the bloopers. I have a feeling I'm gonna be on
a couple of bloopers. I'm sure you will be, Sandra,
I know, and I don't what that frightens the heck
(31:35):
out of me.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Bloopers are there to make to make people laugh.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So oh, I understand. I don't want them laughing in me.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
They'll be laughing with you, with me.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Okay, thanks, Serena.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Of course. All right, we're gonna play, Sandra. We're gonna
play a quick game rapid fire question. So, first thing
that comes to your hat, it doesn't even have.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
To make sense, I'm sorry. What's that?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Last?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It doesn't even have to make sense that comes to
your head.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's all just easy, fun questions about yourself.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Okay, like red flag, gold flag?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, kind of okay. What is the first thing
you do when you wake up in the morning.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh, when I wake up, I say a prayer. I
thank God for blessing me with yet another day on
this earth.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah like that. What is your go to rose ceremony cocktail?
Even though you don't drink.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I drink orange juice. Mixed with cranberry juice.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What was the first concert you ever attended?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Jeez, guys, I'm not twenty five. We're going back a
two decades, Jeane. You know what I saw my Luther
Luther Vandross Rand Rose. Yes, a billion years ago. My guy?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Wow, what is your love language?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Well? What language? I don't?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I like words of reformation?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
What's your favorite way to like receive?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Weve? So there's like physical touch, there's words of affirmation,
quality time, or acts of service or gifts?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Okay, yes, the gift dialogue most from a guy is
his generosity. And I don't mean from his wallet. I
think I said that before, not a gift from his wallet,
but a gift of his time, of his energy, of
his his uh chatting with me, of being just being
(33:33):
with me, wanting to be with me, not quality quality time,
quality time and generous with quality time. But I mean
we're you know, the clock is ticking on all of us, right,
So how many hours one word answers? I'm sorry, did
you want one?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
There's no right or wrong on this podcast. How many
hours of sleep do you get every night?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Probably six or seven? I prefer more, But you know,
mother nature is charge here.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So what is your favorite place in the whole world?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Oh? My, I like that question because I had no answer.
You know, my favorite place is where I live. I
guess my home. I'm cocooned here.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Love my home.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
I love my home.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
So, if you could only watch one movie on repeat
for the rest of your life, what movie would that be?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Oh, you guys are going to think this is really strange.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
When I was in college, I fell in love with
a movie called And of the Thousand Days. Okay remember it?
And another one's Soilent Green but u And that was
the story of Anne Boleyn and Henry the Eighth and
just the way it was portrayed. And seeing Genevieve Boujold,
she was just fabul this actress. Anyway, that was one
(35:01):
hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Guys, Okay, okay, what is one word your kids or
grandkids would use to describe you.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Adorable? No, no, let me say, let me reap, maybe
go back. My oldest daughter calls me cute. Okay, teller,
I'm too old to be cute, she says, Mommy, you're cute.
My youngest daughter says, I'm adorable.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh well, both endearing terms.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
If you were to write an autobiography, what would it
be called?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh? I like that question, Jo. How about not that
anyone would read it, a book called Sondra with Sondra.
But you know I have, I've developed a lot of
self love and I am and that just it keeps
(35:58):
me afloat, keeps me happy, keeps me smiling, maybe keeps
me cute or adorable. I don't know, but maybe Sondra
with Sondra or Sondra on Sondra, something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Excuse me for interrupting you. My middle name is Joy.
My mom always called me Sondra the Joy.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Oh yeah, so that's so nice. That's a good middle name.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Do you believe in love at first sight?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I believe it exists. I've never had it except for
with someone on a television screen, but a movie star
like a Denzel or something, you know, but it's not
happened to me. But I believe it exists. I believe
that other people have had just that.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Benzel Washington, he's a smooth.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Guy, isn't he And he's taken Yes. Hi, Paul Lena.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
What is one word to describe this season of the
Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Oh, phenomenal. It was phenomenal thing to do and to
learn from and it you know, how many human beings
get to do this in their lifetime. Yeah, you know,
there was quite a few thousand who applied for this
opportunity and I received it. So it's just phenomenal. From
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the day I got to where we were first situated
till the day I got home, just phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And why do you think, why do you think the
viewers are so obsessed with the show and are just
singing its praises.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Well, you know, we have separate sets of viewers. We
now have a demographic that there was there before, and
that's golden folks. So I think we have a new
set of viewers who are going to be obsessed with
this if they indeed have a Golden Bachelorette or yet
another Golden Bachelor. I was obsessed with the show. Well,
(37:58):
I was always obsessed with the show it first came on.
I can't remember. I think Alex was the very first bachelor,
and then Trista was the first bachelorette, and I was
hooked back then. I I, uh, maybe it's being in
love with love. Maybe it's you know, just seeing seeing
one of the possible ways of finding love. You know
(38:20):
that was that was how many? That was a long
time ago, when uh, reality TV was just blossoming, and
this was one of those where women weren't pulling each
other's hair out or cussing at each other or turning
over tables or something, but they all had a goal
and a valid goal. Valuable and valid goal.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I like that well, Sondra, thank you so much for
coming on Happy Hours.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Thank you you guys. And I say you're just too cute.
I'm too cute, but.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You're too cute.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Thank you all right, Joe by Serena. Serena, you and
me football, Yes, you can teach me football this weekend.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
And I also want to thank everyone for tuning in
and remember all new episodes of The Golden Bacheler every
Thursday on ABC at eight seventh Central, followed by new
episodes of Bachelor in Paradise, or you could stream them
both the next day on Hulu.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
And make sure to tune into new episodes of Bacheler
Happy Hour every week.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
We've got some great guests on and we've got all
kinds of exclusive interviews coming up, so don't forget to subscribe.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Thanks again everyone, Bye, thank you ye
Hey, everyone, welcome back to a Bacher happy hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I am Joe and I am Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
And we are here with none other than Sondra from
the Golden Bacher. Sondra, how the fuck are you?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
You know I had to leave with the fuck just
because I know that your think, well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Just own that. It's okay, we love it. Okay, Hey Joe, Hi, Hi,
how are you doing today?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I'm doing pretty dog one good.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
How have you been feeling with all this craziness in
your face on TV everywhere?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I've been feeling great, you know, a little pumped. And
my friends tell me we don't see enough of you,
and I say, hey, it's a forty minute show. There's
a lot going on besides me.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
But yeah, well what we do see, I think is
everyone everyone has falling in love with you. We saw
you play pickleball and you're flying around the court. We
see you walk in you you're swearing at Gary, but
you make it fun. I'm talking about out of the
(01:15):
out of the limo. Out of the limo is I
have to ask you swearing does that help you calm
your nerves? Because it does help me.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Well, since Mike stepping out of a Limo No, but
before that, yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Okay, what changed?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh, I don't know. I you know, what I'm finding
out is that the younger generation. You know, my oldest
is fifty, but that's a young generation for me, and
young folks loved my Limo exit folks more my generation
Mike demographic were a little skeptical about that. So that
(01:54):
seems to be the feedback I'm getting.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Well, you know what, there's actually scientific SETI is that
prove that swearing has like an effect on the brain,
like some sort of like chemical release or release of energy.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That is I'm serious, not I'm not just liken't me
like I'm crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
There's something that's proven that like swearing releases I don't
know what it is exactly, but like endorphins are something
that like actually helps you calm down, or like it
provides like a release of energy that helps you calm down.
That's why people like swear when they like stub their
toe or something, or like they're frustrated. There's like an
actual reason for it, so you can tell you can
tell your friends that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Oh and that's a good one, thank you, Serena. However,
is that you know there are a lot of swear
words out there, and the AF isn't necessarily America's choice
or older America's choice.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Okay, okay, so maybe if it was a different swear word.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, well that's okay.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I feel like you came out and you you surprise people.
Whether it was a good way or a bad way,
you got their attention. You definitely got Gary's attention because
we've seen you through this journey and that's all that matters.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, here's the thing. I look like a school
teacher ish and a librarian, so people don't expect me
to spew a word like that. So it has its
shock value, and I guess it worked.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It definitely it worked. We we know. I've heard you're
a you're a big football fan. Do you did you
happen to see Stephen A. Smith talking about talking about Sondra?
Did you see that?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I did see that, And of course I saw Stephen A.
Smith and I saw that. Now he was all over
in Natasha and he got my age wrong, but at
least he got me, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
He got your you're in there. I think he said.
I think he said Sondra could get it. I think
that's what he.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Said, really, I didn't see this. That's so cool. He's
a he's a football player.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, yeah, he's an analyt. What what what is your
Do you have an NFL team?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
No, I have thirty two teams.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Okay, all the team, isn't it?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I have a league. I always say I have a league.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Interesting, who's your who's your favor who's your favorite player
in the league? You got a player.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I enjoy watching Mahomes. I watched the I like watching
the connection between him and Kelsey. You know, and in
the past there have been a lot of quarterback tight
end relationships that have made me feel good about the sport.
You know that the connection they have.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
How do you feel about Travis Kelsey dating Taylor Sweft?
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I do.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
That's what's running minimama.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think, you know, it's fun. People are fun with it,
and they are having fun with it, whether they admit
it or not. I you know, America is always looking
for love and romance, and and when you've got two
heroes like that, one hero and one hero, you know,
it makes for good feeling.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
So, yeah, what were you married to an NFL player
at one point in your life? I was, Okay, who.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
His name is Lindsay Mason. Okay, a left tackle for
the Oakland Raiders.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay, wow, how did you to meet?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
We actually met at a racquetball court and he and
some of his co workers were playing slash practicing and
I was playing and somehow we bumped into each other
in the corridor and started chatting. And I'll tell you
how I got hooked on this game because he invited
me to watch him at a game. And I knew
(05:30):
a little something about football, you know what I learned
in high school going to games and cheerleading. But so
invited me to a game, and then after the game,
I said, tell me what you do out there? What
is your role? And he started explaining to me he's
a tackle, an offensive tackle. That means that he does
(05:50):
pass protection and run blocking. So then I said, okay,
explain that. And little by little, I was getting tutorials
on Monday nights when he wasn't working. And back then
they only had Sunday and Monday night football, so that
was my tutorial time. And I got all the x's
and o's and I was fascinated. I just grabbed me
(06:13):
and there was always something to learn. Even to this day,
there is something to learn about this game that I
didn't know the game before, and I don't know. My
mind just sucks it up. The last thing I googled
here was the the NFL rule changes changes for this season. Yeah,
so there's.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Some always changing something. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, they have to because they've got a product to
protect and it's the players.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's true. That's true. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
I feel like my issue getting into football is that
I just don't understand what's happening most of the time.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
So it's so I need to come watch it with you,
and you can.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Say, if you had some instruction, you might get engaged,
you might really understand. It's about real estate, you know,
getting down and scoring on someone else's real estates. But Serenay, honey,
I'll talk to you off camber here and get you
started if you like.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay, let's do it well, Sondra, you know what, in
my defense, I have football on. It's on the TV
Saturday morning at ten am, and it doesn't it doesn't
go off the TV till Sunday night at at ten pm.
And Serena, you know what she does, She goes in
the other room.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay, I've tried a little bit with you and me, Joe.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I know because I'm right there with you.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay, So let's let's you You were single for twenty
nine years? Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Do you want to talk about that in terms of
in terms of why why were you single? Were you?
Did you within those twenty nine years? Did you really
did you date it all? Or were you just kind
of over it?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah? Single meaning I wasn't married? Oh right, yeah, yeah,
I dated, of course. Oh. Let me tell you guys, Yeah,
yeah dated.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I have.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Double dated, I have blind dated, I have always speed dated,
I have online dated, and now i've TV dated.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Wow. Wow, What has been your favorite? What would you suggest?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Well, all of them, because I think you know, they're
all valuable in trying to find the right person, you know,
and if one doesn't work, keep going. And I would
blind date again, I would double date again. I would
do all of those, you know, in my pursuit. Now,
this is not something that happens every weekend, every week,
you know, especially since it's football season, but even otherwise,
(08:39):
I don't, you know, I'm not out there trying to
be mister goodbar, but but I know that I want
a companion in my life and my oasis. I want
to be his oasis and it's important my kids want
me to do so.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
So Saja, we know it doesn't work out with Gary,
but we don't know if there is going to be
a Golden Bachelorette. If there is, is that something that
you are intrigued you would you like to be the
Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I would do it tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Really, Okay?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Why because they're motivated like I I want to I
want to mister Wright in my life. I want I
don't want to just date. I want a a committed, serious,
let's have fun in our golden years relationship. It's important,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
And if you no, go ahead yourself.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Going to say, I think I'm still viable and I
have energy, and I have desire, and I there's things
to do in life and with someone like watch football,
but other things as well, other activities. Yeah, I'm motivated. Guys,
can you tell you're honestly?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You're you are? You are the definition of seventy five
years young and what we saw like honestly, we are
watching you playing pickleball and just on this show in general,
and you look like you would have changed what I
pictured as a seventy five year old person like you. Honestly,
(10:22):
you look great, you move you It's just it's it's incredible.
And you were literally the one person on the pickleball
court flying around.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Thank you, true you were.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
We saw you dive into the crowd and hit the bolla.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Joe I was like, how old is Sodra. I was like,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
You know, we look at all the ages in the
first episode, but then we kind of forgot as this
season went on and he was like, oh my gosh,
Srina Sodra is seventy five.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I was like, no way, no, she's not. You like,
what is your secret?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
What do you like for aging screens outside on the outside?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We want to know all the secrets.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Okay, Well, first of all, I liked the game of pickball.
I've never played it before, but I was intrigued about it.
So I got some instructions from Joey, kind of one
on one how to hold that racket? You know what
exactly is the endeavor? Here? Give me my give me
my parameters. But but I I've always been athletic. Doesn't
mean I've had athleticism, but I've always had that desire
(11:22):
to to play some kind of sport, and I used
to play racketball, so kind of familiarity with the walls,
of course, but so I'm competitive sports wise, so and
so the pickleball was Yeah, I was probably the only
one flying around because I wanted to win that dog
(11:44):
on contest. I really did.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
What's your what's your nightcare routine?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Okay, you know, I just wash up, take the day off,
and I have a moisturizer that I use. You know,
I think, here, you guys, let me tell you what
I think is the reason that my skin responds so
well to Mother nature and almost one. I don't drink alcohol.
Now that's going to turn a lot of people off.
(12:14):
Doesn't mean you can't drink alcohol. I never I think
it's a wholesome thing for people to do, but I
never acquired the taste. But I think in the long
run it has made a difference. I don't know. I
don't live in the sun. You know. I'm one of
those ladies that's in the shade. If I'm out in
(12:34):
the sun and the heat, I'll find shade because I
know that sun is damaging. And I also am always
wearing an SPF fifty or higher. Just you know, and
I'm bother words, I'm fighting, mister son, I really am.
And then other than that, my mom looked young when
she was my well, she didn't live to my age,
(12:56):
but when she was an older lady, when she was
in her golden year, she she looked younger. I thought
she did. And so I'm guessing that's it. I get.
I do have an aesthetician and she kind of gives
me some treatments on my skin. You know, I see
her walk every three months. But you know, nothing miraculous,
you guys, It's just it's just.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Sondra.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I wear sunscreen every day and I'm brown, so obviously
don't really burn. It's just to protect my skin. I
tell Joe he's Joe never wears sunscreen. I'm rearing senstry
right now. I'm in the house. I have sunscreen on
every single morning. Joe is a white man, and he
could use the sunscreen because his cheeks get burnt, and
(13:40):
he never ever wears it because he likes to get tan.
And I always tell him he's so big on all
of this stuff for anti aging in terms of yeah,
he knows he has good skincare, but he's like into
cold plunges and you know, fasting and sunlight in the
mornings and all of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And I'm like, but what you're missing is the sun screen.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I love to get a little I love, I love,
I love.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
That's fine, Joe for now, because you're cutie. But you
two are seventy five or whatever age. You know, Serena
is gonna be hot and you're gonna be not hot.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I'm just saying, Talo, Sandra, how about how about exercise, Sondra?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
Do you exercise regularly?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
I do. I have Silver Sneakers classes twice a week,
and then at home here I have a treadmill. And
so when I'm watching my other love, which is Wheel
of Fortune, I'm on the treadmill.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
You've been on Wheel of Fortune, and.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I've been hooked. I've been hooked for well, they've been
on for forty forty one. Season's just about and I
was hooked from day one, just like I was hooked
on football, fascinated with it.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
And so my my mother's really goes. She's like every
time Wheel of Fortune she guesses it immediately. Did you
how far did you go? Did you win?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I won a little over thirty one. Oh my gosh,
and that was in nineteen eighty eight. That was a
lot of money back.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, So what did you enjoy more? Wheel of Fortune
or being on the Golden Bachelor?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You know, I think that what I call the GB.
I think the GB because more you know, meeting women
and the whole living away from home.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You know, just being a longer, more intense process. The
Wheel was well several years of being focused and being
a student, but one day of shoot.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So you know a little bit of a shorter adventure.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah. I've also I was also on the the newlyweb
game a gazillion years ago.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Okay, Wowsadra is an experienced reality TV contested.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yes, there's been so many gaps between that. Who knows,
maybe another ten fifteen years I'll be on another game show.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Or so is there is there is there a game
show that you would love to do or a reality
show that you watch and go, oh that would be
that would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yes, I would love to go on the Wheel of
Fortune again. And I would love to go on this
Golden Bachelorette.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I don't know, Well, they're back to back, aren't they live?
Like is it?
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Wheel of Fortune is on because I feel like whenever
we used to watch the show live, we would catch
the end of Wheel of Fortune. So you can go
do Wheel of Fortune and it could be Sondra's episode,
and then the next can be the premiere of Sondra's
season of The Golden Baucherrett.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
I feel like.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
But in my market, there there's a half an hour between,
and that's fine. That gives me time to prep okay
for watching the GB.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
So yes, refresh your mocktail, get a snack, and then
settle in.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And you you live, you live in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I live in one of the those communities in it. Okay,
but everybody says that land.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, have you are you? Have you lived in Atlanta
your whole life?
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Or that?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
You know interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I was born here in Atlanta, but I was raised
in San Francisco. I moved back here about twenty two
years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Okay, yeah, do you miss San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I visit. I go back and visit it. It's changed dramatically,
of course. And yeah, and my my children live in
southern cows so and I but I have friends in
the Bay Area, so I have reason to go and visit. Obviously,
college mates, you know, Yeah, my heart is still there.
Is that what you're thinking?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, that's what. That's what. That's what I was.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
I left part of it there, your heart in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Okay, so let's let's go a little bit. Let's go
to the show. Let's bring it to the show. Let's
talk a little bit about Gary. So you get out
of the limo, you make Gary laugh. You know, it's
your first time on the Bachelor, at the Bachelor. What
are your thoughts on Gary when you first meet him?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Well, he looked very much like he did on Good
Morning America when they introduced him on July seventeenth. You see,
I remember that and just in real life, and of
course my hands were probably shaking, and but it was,
you know, the whole the whole process was intriguing to me.
(18:29):
And of course Gary was too. He was the object
there and and he's a good.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Looking gent Is he your typical type? Like do you
have a type?
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Well, in some respects, yeah, I like tall men, I
like facial hair. I like men who have family, were
engaged with their families. I should say, an intelligent man,
which he certainly seemed to be.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
He definitely can't pay he definitely can't play offensive line
for the for the Los Angeles or Las Vegas raiders
will tell you.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
That that is correct, but you know millions of men can't,
so that is true.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It's true. So do you feel did you have a
connection with Gary and when did you first feel that?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Oh? Boy, yes, of course there was a connection. Now
I describe it as love, of course. But our our
chats were feeling fulfilling, and you know, he was learning
about me and I was learning about him. Of course,
I don't know if I remember exactly when it clicked.
(19:46):
I don't think Limo night because there was so much
going on with the whole Zen thing and then the bug.
Maybe you remember the bug. I didn't. I didn't really
get a chance to connect with him that evening, so
it might have been our next chat together. I think
that's that's probably. And looking into those what I call
old blue eyes two point oh.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Yeah, a lot of people have said he has really
really blue eyes. We have not had the pleasure of
meeting Gary in person yet, but I'm intrigued to see
these eyes in person.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Well, you know, in my generation, but in my mom's generation,
I think Frank Sinatra was old blue eyes, and so
that's why I called Gary blue eyes two point zho.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Oh, I like that. That's cute, do you.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
So we've seen you in a couple group dates, and
I feel like the one, like we talked about earlier
that you like really shined on was this pickleball group date.
You have a conversation with Gary and you talk about
how you're missing your daughter's wedding and he allowed kind
of not allowed, but gifted you, I guess, with like
a FaceTime with your daughter.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
What did that moment mean to you?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Oh? It was mixed, nervous. You know, he's surprised, so
it was odd, you know, what are you at?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
What?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Why is this phone here? But so I was nervous.
I was so grateful. It was so thoughtful, creative, it
was it was perfect. It was the perfect thing to do.
And that day having it felt really good about the
pickle ball and then getting my one on one with
(21:24):
Gary and then and then seeing my daughter and my
new son in law's face. It was it was, It
was beautiful, It really was.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
What was that a tough decision to to have to
miss your daughter's wedding to go on this show?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Yes, and no Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
You know, my daughter and I talked about this h
when when when I was being vetted for this show
and keeping our fingers crossed. But at the same time,
I knew they were going to try to get married
during the summer, had yet picked out a date. But
as it turns out, that the two collided her date
and the airing of the show, and or I'm sorry,
(22:05):
the filming of the show, and so we had several
conversations about it, and the bottom line, my daughter said
to me, mommy, she said, I've got my man, you
go get yours. So she gave me her blessings and
and you know, we hugged and boooed, and I said, baby,
you're right, You're right. And so it was tough, but
(22:28):
what she said made sense. You know, this is a once,
once in a chance, once in the once. What am
I saying? Once in a lifetime, once in a lifetime opportunity.
Thank you guys. Yeah, so I'm getting all tearing now,
don't yeh.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Serena and I, Serena and I had that conversation. We
were talking about like how how you would feel, and
that's kind of how I broke it down, is it
is you know, it is a once in a lifetime
opportunity and chance, and I just feel like it's it's
just something that like you can't pass up. And I
think that's just wonderful that your daughter pushed you to
(23:08):
go do it, because that is a selfless act on
her part, and I think it was I think it
was the right decision. And I believe you mentioned it
wasn't her first marriage, correct, This is our second marriage.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Both of them, each of them have been married once
before quite some time before. But he's a really good guy.
I couldn't ask for a better son in law. It's
another blessing in our lives.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Well, on that pickleball date, you know, we had that
beautiful moment with you and Gary, and then we also
had a little bit of drama with the girls. You know,
Kathy and Teresa are not getting along.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
They've been going at it, they've been going at this.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
They clearly do not see eye to eye on this situation.
What was your opinion about the situation going on in
the Well, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I wasn't privy to a lot. I knew there was
something happening, but I didn't know the who said what
he said? She said, she said, she said, I guess
I didn't know these specifics, so but it hurt me
a little because I wanted, you know, kumbaya. I wanted
(24:22):
everyone to get along. I wanted there not to be consternation.
I want, you know, I wanted the US Golden Ladies
to shine such that there would not be any drama
to reflect on.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
So I saw, I'm sorry, no, it's okay, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I saw more on television than I did when I
was there.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
So yeah, people forget that.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I actually forget that sometimes watching because having been on
the show. I remember doing interviews and Phil being like,
what do you think of this and this? And I
was like, honestly, I didn't know any of that was
going on, right, which is kind of a blessing in
disguise at the time. Who were you close with on
the show? Who were like your closest girls that you
know you still talk to?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Oh, it was just the girls, because there's some of
the crew that I loved to death. But my roomy, Leslie,
she and I became close, especially after we lost Joni
and then after we lost Christina and there was just
the two of us in the room. You know, we
we we bonded some more. She's a great she's a
great person, and I love her. Let me just say
(25:30):
I love her. And and then you know, I enjoyed
several of the other ladies. Doesn't mean I did enjoy
the others, but my I enjoyed speaking with Edith uh
beautiful spirit, beautiful woman. And I am. Let's see Ellen,
who was a hoot. Yeah, I liked me some, Allen.
(25:51):
She's she just she was a hoot. Liked me some, Allen. Okay,
And so that's that's probably the strongest that I felt
connected to.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And then unfortunately we see you Ellen and Susan go
home this week. Going into that Row ceremony, how did
you feel were you? Were you shocked at all? Did
you kind of make peace with it? And were there
other women like Leslie were like her connection with Gary
is much stronger than mine at this point.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Well, I recognized that my relationship with Gary had not
advanced as it has had with other ladies. I could
see that. And you know, there were three roses, and
that means I had less than probably a fifty percent
chance of being selected for hometowns. And I was prepared,
(26:52):
you know, I just had to ration that what was
happening and who was there. I didn't know specifically the
connection with other ladies, but I had a sense of
who he was more attracted to, had more affinity for.
So I prepared myself. And I'm a big girl. Yeah. Yeah, No,
(27:18):
I'm not saying I was excited about leaving. I was not,
but I just had to. I had to have a
Sondra to Sondra talk and we got along very well
in that discussion.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
That's good watching you back in the show. I just
think you did a wonderful job. I don't think you
should have any regrets. But do you have any regrets? No?
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yes, maybe I do have regt Maybe I regret about
some of the garments that I brought. I mean, nothing
heavy duty regrets. Let me think about or just a second,
you know what, maybe maybe just a minor regret about
the limo, uh stepping out of the limo. As I
see the feedback and as I stated earlier, you know,
(28:13):
the younger folks loved it, thought it was a who
golden folks not so much. But so you know, that
was a bit of a consternation for me. So that's
maybe the only regret.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah, and watching someone like Gary Navigate dating twenty five
whatever it was, twenty five thirty women and thing about
potentially maybe maybe you do get asked to be the
Golden Bachelorette. What would you take from how he handled
it that you would that you would do the same
(28:47):
and or do different?
Speaker 3 (28:49):
You know, that's all that's I like that question. I
really like that question. Yeah, good for you. I think
I would try to. Yes, i'd watch back all the
shows and watch him. But then there's also a culmination.
It's a culmination of watching. Having been a fan of
the Bachelor and Bachelorette franchise, I've seen a lot of
(29:10):
these similar situations Gary was in. So I think he
was patient, and so I think that being in that
role requires a lot of patients and really again, a
lot of self talks, a lot of the what is
is a lot of self negotiation and self compromise and
(29:34):
listening to the folks who are there to guide me
through the process. But you know, when it comes to
emotions and love, it's easy to speak these words, but
who knows when you're in that situation. True, I've never
had two fellas vibe for my attention at one time
(29:56):
that I'm aware of, so you know, starting with twenty three,
twenty five or whatever it would be. That's a daunting
jast to try to feel.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I don't know. If I don't know, if I can
fully buy then I feel like there's been well there's
been times in your life where you had a few
guys gotten after you.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
I didn't know it the case, I didn't know it,
but thank you. Job's there's a compliment in there.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Should we play? You want to play a game?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
I have one more question first, So Sandra, we have
the women ta all coming up. What are you excited
you're going to be going and filming it soon? You're
and we reunited with some of your other castmates, some
of the other women. What are you most excited for
for the tell all? And what are you most nervous for?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Well, I'm excited to see everyone again. I mean we
we all at some level had a friendship and I'm
and which was quickly eating away, but just because we
there were departures. But I want to see everyone again
and I just think that's gonna feel so good just
and catch up and chit chat. How's it been for you,
(31:13):
What's what's life like? How's the grand babies, on and
on and now what I what I'm fearful of is
the bloopers. I have a feeling I'm gonna be on
a couple of bloopers. I'm sure you will be, Sandra,
I know, and I don't what that frightens the heck
(31:35):
out of me.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Bloopers are there to make to make people laugh.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So oh, I understand. I don't want them laughing in me.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
They'll be laughing with you, with me.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Okay, thanks, Serena.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Of course. All right, we're gonna play, Sandra. We're gonna
play a quick game rapid fire question. So, first thing
that comes to your hat, it doesn't even have.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
To make sense, I'm sorry. What's that?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Last?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It doesn't even have to make sense that comes to
your head.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's all just easy, fun questions about yourself.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Okay, like red flag, gold flag?
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, kind of okay. What is the first thing
you do when you wake up in the morning.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Oh, when I wake up, I say a prayer. I
thank God for blessing me with yet another day on
this earth.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah like that. What is your go to rose ceremony cocktail?
Even though you don't drink.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I drink orange juice. Mixed with cranberry juice.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What was the first concert you ever attended?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Jeez, guys, I'm not twenty five. We're going back a
two decades, Jeane. You know what I saw my Luther
Luther Vandross Rand Rose. Yes, a billion years ago. My guy?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Wow, what is your love language?
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Well? What language? I don't?
Speaker 1 (33:00):
I like words of reformation?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
What's your favorite way to like receive?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Weve? So there's like physical touch, there's words of affirmation,
quality time, or acts of service or gifts?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Okay, yes, the gift dialogue most from a guy is
his generosity. And I don't mean from his wallet. I
think I said that before, not a gift from his wallet,
but a gift of his time, of his energy, of
his his uh chatting with me, of being just being
(33:33):
with me, wanting to be with me, not quality quality time,
quality time and generous with quality time. But I mean
we're you know, the clock is ticking on all of us, right,
So how many hours one word answers? I'm sorry, did
you want one?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
There's no right or wrong on this podcast. How many
hours of sleep do you get every night?
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Probably six or seven? I prefer more, But you know,
mother nature is charge here.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
So what is your favorite place in the whole world?
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Oh? My, I like that question because I had no answer.
You know, my favorite place is where I live. I
guess my home. I'm cocooned here.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Love my home.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
I love my home.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
So, if you could only watch one movie on repeat
for the rest of your life, what movie would that be?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Oh, you guys are going to think this is really strange.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
When I was in college, I fell in love with
a movie called And of the Thousand Days. Okay remember it?
And another one's Soilent Green but u And that was
the story of Anne Boleyn and Henry the Eighth and
just the way it was portrayed. And seeing Genevieve Boujold,
she was just fabul this actress. Anyway, that was one
(35:01):
hundred years ago.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Guys, Okay, okay, what is one word your kids or
grandkids would use to describe you.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Adorable? No, no, let me say, let me reap, maybe
go back. My oldest daughter calls me cute. Okay, teller,
I'm too old to be cute, she says, Mommy, you're cute.
My youngest daughter says, I'm adorable.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh well, both endearing terms.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
If you were to write an autobiography, what would it
be called?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Oh? I like that question, Jo. How about not that
anyone would read it, a book called Sondra with Sondra.
But you know I have, I've developed a lot of
self love and I am and that just it keeps
(35:58):
me afloat, keeps me happy, keeps me smiling, maybe keeps
me cute or adorable. I don't know, but maybe Sondra
with Sondra or Sondra on Sondra, something like that.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Excuse me for interrupting you. My middle name is Joy.
My mom always called me Sondra the Joy.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Oh yeah, so that's so nice. That's a good middle name.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Do you believe in love at first sight?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I believe it exists. I've never had it except for
with someone on a television screen, but a movie star
like a Denzel or something, you know, but it's not
happened to me. But I believe it exists. I believe
that other people have had just that.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Benzel Washington, he's a smooth.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Guy, isn't he And he's taken Yes. Hi, Paul Lena.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
What is one word to describe this season of the
Golden Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Oh, phenomenal. It was phenomenal thing to do and to
learn from and it you know, how many human beings
get to do this in their lifetime. Yeah, you know,
there was quite a few thousand who applied for this
opportunity and I received it. So it's just phenomenal. From
(37:19):
the day I got to where we were first situated
till the day I got home, just phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
And why do you think, why do you think the
viewers are so obsessed with the show and are just
singing its praises.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Well, you know, we have separate sets of viewers. We
now have a demographic that there was there before, and
that's golden folks. So I think we have a new
set of viewers who are going to be obsessed with
this if they indeed have a Golden Bachelorette or yet
another Golden Bachelor. I was obsessed with the show. Well,
(37:58):
I was always obsessed with the show it first came on.
I can't remember. I think Alex was the very first bachelor,
and then Trista was the first bachelorette, and I was
hooked back then. I I, uh, maybe it's being in
love with love. Maybe it's you know, just seeing seeing
one of the possible ways of finding love. You know
(38:20):
that was that was how many? That was a long
time ago, when uh, reality TV was just blossoming, and
this was one of those where women weren't pulling each
other's hair out or cussing at each other or turning
over tables or something, but they all had a goal
and a valid goal. Valuable and valid goal.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I like that well, Sondra, thank you so much for
coming on Happy Hours.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Thank you you guys. And I say you're just too cute.
I'm too cute, but.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You're too cute.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Thank you all right, Joe by Serena. Serena, you and
me football, Yes, you can teach me football this weekend.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
And I also want to thank everyone for tuning in
and remember all new episodes of The Golden Bacheler every
Thursday on ABC at eight seventh Central, followed by new
episodes of Bachelor in Paradise, or you could stream them
both the next day on Hulu.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
And make sure to tune into new episodes of Bacheler
Happy Hour every week.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
We've got some great guests on and we've got all
kinds of exclusive interviews coming up, so don't forget to subscribe.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Thanks again everyone, Bye, thank you ye
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