February 20, 2025 • 35 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re sitting down with Sarafiena from Grant’s season! Between the explosive drama, romantic one-on-ones in Madrid, and keeping it cute for the moms watching, there is lots to dive into and she’s giving us the inside scoop. She offers her perspective on the Zoe and Carolina drama and the dress comment. Was Rose sending herself home a huge shock to the house? We’re finding out! Plus, we get all the romantic details of Sarafiena’s one-on-one and her connection with Grant. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bet Your Happy Hour. I'm
Joe and I'm Serena and we are here with our
guest this week, Sarah Fina. Sarah Fina, welcome to bet
Your Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thanks, guys, thank you so much for having me. I'm
so excited.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Of course, of.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Course, where are you recording from today?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm in New York City. I feel like you guys
are also we are. I know, I know it is
so grand cold today. It's always gonna snow tonight apparently. Yeah,
it's been so it's been so cold, but honestly, this
week has been the warmest of it. I don't know.
(00:41):
That's how I we had like two days ago, it
wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well we we live off of the West Side Highway,
so it's just.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Really you got yeah, you got the Wendy. I live
in the East Village, but I work on the West Side,
So I know what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
What do you do for work?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I work in advertising, so it's a little bit of
media buying. Yeah, I've been doing that for almost six
years now, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Wown. Yeah, how how did you? How did you wind
up on the Bachelor?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh? So I signed up myself. I know, like, and
this is no shade to anyone. I know a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I know myself too, Okay, so I'm here to bring
I feel like girls always come on and they're like
ashamed of the fact that they didn't come on get nominator,
like scouted by casting.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So you know what, no shame in signing up yourself. Okay,
No one was looking for me, No one, damn. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Kelsey Anderson signed herself up too. Okay, look at where
she is now, engaged in love.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
For themselves for the girls, but no one. I didn't
have a friend sign me up. I fully was on
the bus on the way to work. It was after
Joey's finale and that worked out so great, and I
was like, you know what, I'm just gonna apply. It's
a fifteen minute bus ride. It took me that time,
and I signed up myself and I got to call
(02:00):
that night.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So yeah, it's so crazy though, because like when you
sign up, like you're like, I'm never gonna hear.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Never people never hearing. I was like, this is going
into the abyss. And I found out that night and
then I had interviews throughout the past couple of weeks
and it was crazy. It goes so quickly, also so fast.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
What was dating life like for you before that?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So I feel like my fallback answer has always been
like dating stocks guys are not the best, and you
know that can be true. But I feel like in
the past couple of years, I've taken accountability for myself
and I feel like I was just looking in the
wrong places and I was not finding people who I
(02:45):
found people who I thought was my type, and then
I realized that my type wasn't what I needed, if
that makes sense. I was always looking for these guys
that were like outgoing life for the party, and that's
not something that I needed in my life. If I
needed someone that was more caring and nurturing, and I
just wasn't finding that. So I took six years off
(03:07):
of dating. I haven't dated anyone in six years. And
I did a lot of therapy, lots of therapy bills,
and I don't know, I just really worked on myself.
It took a lot of self growth, I think for myself.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think that's great. I feel like so many people
say New York is such a hard city to date in,
and I do think going into dating with this mentality
of like everyone sucks does make it hard. But I
also feel like to your credit, like when you're young
and you're dating in the city, you are meeting these
guys probably like out at bars and in these settings
where you might not be finding you might be finding
(03:42):
someone great, but not someone great for you and what
you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, exactly. And it's like my therapist always told me this,
it's a thing called fortune telling. And when you say
dating sucks and everyone sucks, like that is the energy
that you're going to bring to yourself and that's the
energy that you're going to attract. So I really had
to genuinely work on shifting my mindset and not saying that.
And I know that sounds so cliche. I hate saying that,
but I did. I just I really had to work
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on myself and the energy that I put out.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I agree with that. I have a bad habit of
being like the sucks everything.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So you can't do that, then everything will suck. It's true.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That is so true.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That was the mindset then that you went into Grant
season with.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The mindset that I went in with with was just
be myself and have fun. With it, don't take it
as seriously. I know obviously I was going in. I
was taking it seriously in terms of, like I did
want to find someone, I did want to get married,
but I wanted to be my most authentic self and
stay true to who I was, and like I wanted
to continue that growth that I had worked on for
(04:46):
so long. So it was, you know, I know a
lot of people share so much about themselves, like the
first night of the first week, but I really had
to stay authentic to my dating and how I date
in the real world and really build up that really
relationship because it is a fast process. But I didn't
want to rush things, if that makes sense. I really
wanted to stay authentic to who I would be.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I think that's great, And because I think it's so
easy to come on the show and be like, oh
my gosh, I have no time and maybe fall into
the trap of like sharing something before you're actually ready
to share it because you're panicked about not getting the
chance to.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I know, and I think a lot of us
felt that way, just because I feel like our season
was slightly shorter as well in terms of time. But
I just I couldn't right away because that's just like
not who I am as a person, and I really
want to just stay true to who I was. But
I do feel like there were nuggets that I did
open up, and I feel good about every time I did.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
For night one, what are your seeing Grant for the
first time? What is your first impression of him? And
is he your tight?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah? Obviously so attractive. When I first found out, I
was so excited. I have text from my friends of
like the first night of gen season when all the
guys were out of Limo, I was like, if I
go on the show, this is the guy that I
want to be with. I promise you I will show
text group.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You should post that. I feel like people would love that.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I think that's like, so like you like manifested him
to be your bachelor and to get on the show.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, I told you manifesting really does work, and I've
been going into it a lot more lately. But yeah,
obviously physically attractive, my type, and then just so much energy.
But you could also tell that he was so nervous,
and I think that's really admirable because you can go
into this and be so confident, but you could just
tell that he was genuinely one looking for someone, and
(06:45):
two he was just excited but also had nerves meeting everyone.
And I just I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
What were the vibes like the first night? Who did
you kind of gravitate towards to?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, vibes are really high the first I feel like
there were a lot. There was a lot going on.
There were animals, there were like there was a Vegas sign.
It was a lot. It was very chaotic. The lama
was there. It was intense, and I think just like
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going into that and like this is my first time
on camera as well, and just like there's a lama
right next to me and not I don't know how
I feel, but it was intense. But I do feel
like the girls were just so nice and welcoming. And
again I hate saying that, but it's true. Like I
think we all were in this experience and we were
all just getting to know each other. So I think
everyone just tried to put their best foot forward that night.
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And I think I've bonded with so many girls that night.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Also, how did you come up with the big head entrance?
That was a good one.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It was so heavy, but it has handles in the back.
So it was like, yeah, so it was fine. So
I have very dry, sarcastic humor that I feel like
some times doesn't land and gets me in trouble. But
I wanted something that showed my personality and I like
to be witty. I like the Aanter and for me,
(08:10):
it's like if you make fun of me and I
can make fun of you, Like that is an instant
match for me. And I feel like he really was
recepted to it and took it well, so I felt
like it went over really well.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, No, it was a really good one.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
What women, Which women did you connect with right away
or like a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, if you go off of like Night one, so
many people are gonna be mad at me. But I
love all the girls. I would say Alicia, Vicki, Bailey,
and I would see Beverly Night one. And then as
I as a time progress, obviously like I grew closer
to a lot more gross.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I was gonna say, damn, your girls are gone. Yeah, dude,
we're flying solo in the mansion this week.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Week two, I was like, I think after week three
and I woke up, I was syrial. I was like,
where are my friends.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's hard.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
That's hard.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I was so mad at Grant and I feel like,
you guys know what I'm talking about. It's like, obviously
you're there for them, but these are your support system
in that house because you're cut off from your friends
and your family, and these are the girls that, as
weird as it is like you're dating the same guy,
they're the only people who can relate to what you're
going through at that moment. So losing your friends is like,
what the hell am I going to do today? Like
(09:27):
who am I going to talk to? Who am I
going to have breakfast with?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So yeah, you know, you know more than I.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Do, but Joe and I want so he doesn't know.
But you imagine you get it the lake with Paradise,
like you had breakfast and every morning, imagine they went home,
you'd be having breakfast alone.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We So I would say the first couple episodes, the
drama kind of surround it Zoe, which that's yeah, that's
now much tamer. I want your opinion on that as well.
We do see you make a comment about Zoe having
a short dress or whatever, Yeah, which really isn't isn't
(10:11):
isn't the worst thing anyone's ever said to somebody on
this show.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, kind of just walk us through that and how
that went down.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, So in terms of start with like the Zoey stuff,
like the beginning.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, because you were you were on that first group
date where she pulled him on the basketball day, right,
and that kind of feels like where everything started and
it just snowballed from there.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah. So for context, that first group date was the
night after the rose ceremony, So again, we don't know
each other very well, and I think a lot of
us were very timid going into it. It's like we've
known Grant for a day now, so we really didn't
know how to fully approach the situation. And Zoe is
definitely more of a go for what she wants kind
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of girl, which like you have to respect to a point,
but also it can step on other people's toes because again,
we're just all getting to know each other. So I
think again, it just it ruffled some feathers, but you
can see both sides to it in terms of, like,
you know, what she wants to utilize her time in
the best way that she feels fit and that is
(11:16):
what she wanted, That's what she came here for. So
I think that kind of snowballed into the cocktail party
that night, and then into the group date the next week,
the cocktail party the next week, and I think at
this point, you know, she is definitely getting a little
bit emotional because she definitely feels isolated, and I could
(11:36):
see how she could also feel that way. But then
there's also like, well, you know, we all had a
great day and you didn't what we felt. Put all
of your effort into it, and then she gets emotional,
and I definitely made a comment and I hated that
(11:56):
wasn't my best moment. I was definitely hard. Yeah, I
was hard on myself for so long about it, But
I'm also giving myself some grace with it because I'm human,
and you know, we all say things that we don't
mean or you know that were like that was shitting
in the moment, But also we talked, and in a
weird way, it actually got Zoe and I to bond
(12:18):
because we realized that we were feeling the same things,
but we were just articulating it in different ways. And
I was going through things at that time because it
is such an emotional, rocky journey and we sometimes like
as people don't know how to communicate well. And I
really do think in a weird way, it just it
got us to really see each other in a different light.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you. I feel like this
kind of ties into this part of the story. We
see Alex cuddling her Lama, crying her eyes out about
you know, Zoe and how the girls have kind of
tried to connect with her and there was this struggle there.
Do you feel like there was this kind of maybe
(13:03):
tension or like inability to connect with Zoe. Maybe those
first few weeks that once you were able to have
that breakthrough moment helped the drama. Was Zoe moving forward?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Definitely? I think again, just coming off of that first
day and it being so intense and we're not really
seeing Zoe's true side, it definitely put a bad taste
in a lot of people's mouth, and I think it
was really hard for her to recover from that. It's
like when everyone's mad at you to an extent and
then you try to like crawl out of the grave.
(13:36):
It's very hard. So I think both of us being
on a vulnerable level. At that point, we were finally
able to just like say like, Okay, what are you
going through? What am I going through? Like it seems
like we're going through the same thing, but we're just
not saying it in the same way.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Right in your hand if you're responding to it, like
with your actions differently as well. Right, because we do
see her steal time from Ali Joe twice, which you
know that was her approach, not your approach, and there's
kind of that like, you know, I don't know why
you're doing that, but you know you're all just trying
to get the same end goal as much. But it
(14:12):
also probably makes it hard in the beginning because it
seems like you're close with you were close with Ali
Joe to maybe want to trust Zoe in the beginning
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I think at that time it's like being on
that date, we all kind of bonded in that sense.
So it's like, yeah, I was definitely felt slighted because
she did still him during the time on the basketball date,
so that sucks. And again, it is such limited time.
I don't think people realize that. So in that moment,
I definitely I could see where Ali Joe was upset,
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but then it's just a it's a really difficult situation.
It's you know, you could see both sides of it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Okay, So now let's jump to the Carolina of it all.
So at this point in the show, which we're on
episode four, what is your take on Carolina? Because what
we figured out, what we believe is the issue is
Carolina got one on one time. A lot of the
other women in the house didn't get that one on
one time. Carolina is talking, it is very negative about
(15:16):
the whole situation in that she just still doesn't really
know Grant and all the other women are like, well,
we needn't even get that time that you got, so
fuck you. Yeah, actually yes, So what is your take
on it all?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Listen, I don't know the full story at that point
of what's going on, and I will just sum it
up in terms of, like it is a huge game
of telephone. It's like, we don't know exactly what was said,
and I think she felt a certain way after her date.
But I do feel like she should have kept that
to herself because when you feel a certain way and
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you communicate it to other girls who haven't had time
with it, you're in a sense poisoning the well because
we have not had time with him and we have
not gotten to know him. So you having a negative
perception is going to make our heads all think, Okay,
well is this going on? Is he like not? And
I just didn't think that was there in that moment
to do.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Before we go to this week's one on one, you
were on a group date where there was only three women.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, I think that vander Pump Dogs group date.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah. I think that's the first time they ever did
a group date this early on where there's only three
people on it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And it was your second group
date of the week for all three of you because
sadly we saw Beverly went home and that spot opened up.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I know sadly Beverly did go home like so much
love for her, honestly, truly, she's so amazing. But yes,
a spot did open up, and that is my dream date.
I love Dogs one and then two leading meeting Lisa
Vanderbump was a dream. I'm a huge Vandles fan, so
seeing her was so exciting. But yeah, it's just like
really special. Again, we had such limited time, so also
(17:09):
having that little extra time this week. That week was
just really beneficial, and I really feel like Graham and
I had a great conversation in terms of like me
not feeling like I'm opening up fully. Like I said,
it was really hard for me from the beginning, and
we do talk about my ability to open up and
how I am slightly and little by little throughout the time.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
There, got it nice? Okay, so you guys, you guys
go to Madrid. So your first time on Madrid?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
No, it's my second time. Yeah, so really exciting, so amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
You get a one on one date which just looks awful,
Like were you surprised?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Guys? No, best date of my life. I know that
sounds psychotic and there's probably something wrong with me, But.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Are you an adrenaline junkie?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Like?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Are you someone that would want to bungee jump somewhere?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
No? But I was like, you know what if I
get a one on one date, like I love clothes,
don't get me wrong, but I didn't want a shopping date,
like I feel like that's just so. I didn't want that.
I wanted something that was exciting and something that was fun.
And when I found out I was doing that, I
could not have been happier because I again, I fin
to Madrid, and I don't know Grant went to Madrid,
but we've both never been to Madrid and bungee jumps,
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so I think it's just like it's something that was
so cool to do with someone and I loved it.
I and the rain added an extra element of excitement.
I my hair looked terrible, but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Were you worried about like you guys were being you know,
tied up. Were you worried like your head was going
to hit his head or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, but I did ask her if it was if
anyone has ever done this in the rain, and she
said she didn't think so. So I was like, I
wasn't sure about that, but you know, we just went
for it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Ayperst you did sign? Was was that like a you know,
like you may die?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yea? Yeah? Yeah. I was like if you can't do it, yeah,
you can't do it essentially, and she was like, yeah,
you'll be fine. I think, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Grant was freaking out though, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He He was freaking out. But I was just like,
I need a hairdye and I'm ready to go, like
I was so excited to do it.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I feel like that's a good thing you needed to
balance out on days like that. You can't both be
totally freaking out. I mean you can, but it's a
lot harder.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, And honestly, like throughout all of this, he's made
me feel so comfortable and so confident and so safe
that it was really nice to kind of reciprocate that
in that time because I genuinely, I mean, I was afraid,
but I didn't out really show it, because I think
if both of us freak out, it's just a mess.
So I'm really happy I was able to internalize out
of it.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
What were your goals or intentions going into your one
on one date? What were you hoping for.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
To fully open up? I think that, you know, we
had small nuggets of you know, opening up and little
things that we spoke about, but I really feel like
I wanted to scratch more of the surface during this time,
because again, it's really hard when you know it's shuffling
girls and you only get like a few minutes. And
this was genuinely a time where I could sit down
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and actually have a conversation with him and just feel
comfortable and not like you know, a girl's coming around
the corner in two minutes. So I feel like we
really needed this time, especially like hometowns being in two weeks, not.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
A while they're in two weeks. Not to get off,
not to get enough of this topic, but jumping back
or just going back to your the group date, were
you at all worried that since you were on a
smaller group date that may take you out of the
running for a one on one date?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Definitely, because at that point it's it was fourteen girls
and then it goes down to ten and it's so
crazy to even say this, but at ten only three
girls have had a one on one day. Wow, So
that's that's insane. And then again, hometown's being in two weeks,
it's like the chances of you getting a one on
one are very slim, So when you do get it,
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you're so lucky for that time and so fortunate for
that time. So then I think that goes back to
the Carolina stuff where it's like, you know, when you
do have that moment, appreciate it, if that makes sense.
And yeah, were.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You surprised that you got the one on one date
this week? Because I was saying you know, we saw you,
Lytia and Dina were on that small group date, and
then Lytia got that night portion, and then we saw
you and Dina got that one on one day. So
if I'm in your shoes when Dina gets that first
one on one, I'm probably thinking like, it's not going
to be me, Like I'm not. Also, yeah, I love
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and if it's.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Not, it's almost like you're going home because he chose
two women from the group day and then not you.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'd be freaking out.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
No, I was teaking. I was like, I came all
the way to Spain, like I think I had four
sangrias that You're like, it's over for me. I was like,
you know what, I'm in Spain. I'm just going to
drink as many sangria as as possible. And like I
was tweaking. I was, but no, I mean it really
does take patience at that point, and everyone's probably like,
(22:20):
why is this girl freaking out? But yeah, to your point,
it's like, you know that we had the group date,
Latia gets one and Indina gets one, and then you're like, okay,
well what about me? In nonsense, but no, I mean
I just had to wait that night, and that just
shows how much I am as a person too. I
never realized.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So then we go jump to the night portion of
the date and it's going, I mean my point of view,
it is going really well.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, it seemed to be going great. It seems like
you guys were both really able to connect on your
relationships with your mom. We loved the moment that we
saw between the two of you. You know, obviously you
got really deep, but this was a little bit more
of like a lighthearted well he's.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Like, well, well, when I go to make out with you,
you're not really like into it, so.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Like, and he's like trying to like unpack like what
that means about you as a person, and you're like,
I just don't want my mom to see me kissing you.
It's not that deep.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So I mean, so I didn't feel that way in
the moment, but like, okay, it's for contacts. When you
are kissing on camera, it's a camera crew all of America,
your producer who you've become. Yes, it's awkward. It is.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I used to sometimes be like, could you guys back up,
Like I'm trying to pretend you're not here, and I'm
I can't, like you have like, can you back up?
It's hard, it is, it is so hard, and it's
like nothing against And I also am really weird about
PDA as well, So this is PDA to the eleventh degree.
(23:50):
And I felt so bad in that moment because I'm like,
I promise you, it is not you. It is just
my mom is watching right now, and like, yeah, you
have that in the back of your head.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah. It was just like, why am I thinking about
my mom?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
But I get it, I get it. That was so funny.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Did that land with him though? Do you think he
was like, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
No. I think it totally made sense, especially because I've
talked so much about my mom and like for context
as well, my family did not want me to do
the show. They were very against it. I don't think
Reality TV was in their cards for me. But I
think eventually they were like, you know what, if this
is what you want to do, as long as you
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show yourself in a way that you're proud of at
the end of the day, go for it. So I
think he understood that, like my hesitation at times, but no,
it's not that I don't like making out with him.
It's just that I am afraid.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Of all the conversations you guys had on your one
on one, was there one that stood out as being
the most impactful, the most meaningful.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, I think I don't know what's shown, but I
did talk about my dating life and just I had
a very hard time dating a couple of years ago
because I feel like I was never really chosen, if
that makes sense. I feel like no one really and
again it could have been because I also wasn't fully
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giving myself, but I just feel like, you know, I
heard so many times like you're so great on paper,
and you're so kind, and you're so nice, and you're
so beautiful, but you're just not for me, and that
after a while cuts so deep and it's very hard
to hear. And throughout my entire time with Grant, I
really do feel like he wanted to hear what I
had to say, and he listened and he let me
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have that sace to open up.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That's great, that's amazing. It's got to be hard to
be in an environment where he's dating a bunch of
other girls. If that is something that you've experienced in
your past, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, it's like yeah, you've experienced this, but you go
on a show where a guys dating twenty five girl.
It's like, make it make sense. But yeah, you're like.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
He chows me and everyone else tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Great. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Would you say after this date, would you would you say,
like this process did? Was the process working for you?
Were you like, Okay, I get how I get I
get this.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, it was definitely working. And before this, I thought
I was like just fully whole, I had everything together,
and I felt like I was, you know, I fully
worked on myself. But throughout this, you learned so much
more about yourself and you work on yourself even more.
And I didn't think I was gonna be able to
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dig as deep as I feel like I could have
and opened up as much. So not only do I
feel like it was working in terms of like I
was going to connection, but I was also just like
growing myself a lot more as well.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Jumping to the cocktail party, we see a lot go
down a lot with Carolina and Juliana, and then we
also see Carolina and Rose not really get into it,
but kind of just you know, circle back to what
has been going on between them with the conversation and
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the drama.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
With Graham Rose at this point, right, Yeah, yeah, that's
that's a great feeling because yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Like three one, Yeah, that's okaat But we see Rose
send yourself home. Was that a surprise to you? What
was the reaction in the house.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, So the Rose situation, will I'll say, is I
think going back to week three in La that cocktail
party or that Rose ceremony night, you really don't see
Rose speak much. And I think it's because she was
one caught so caught off guard. And I think, similar
to myself, I think she she thinks about things before
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she actually speaks. So I think she was like really
trying to understand what one he was saying, what he
might have said in the past, and what Carolyna might
have said about her. And I think from then she
kind of treated back into herself and took that also
into Spain. And I think going back going to the
Rose ceremony in Madrid, I think all that bubbled up
(28:08):
because she again it is this giant phone of telephone
at this point, and all of that bubbling up. I
think it unfortunately like bursted on her, and I think
it was just I think she reached her Lemon at
that point, So I just I feel so bad about that.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's what it felt. It felt like, as much as
we were sad to see her go, it felt like
it was the best decision for her based on how
everything had played out.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Okay, okay, hypothetical hair right, And I don't know, I
don't know, we don't really know what went down. But
if you were on stage dancing with Grant and then
you come back to the mansion and you were chatting.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
With Juliana Juliana Bailey.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Anyway, and Juliana's like, well, just just so you know,
when he was dancing with you, he told me he
was thinking of me. How would you handle that like
I would? For me, I think it's hard to keep
that in Like, how do you not call the guy
out because you're like, well, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yes, I think it goes back to it's not what's sad,
but it's how you say it. And I think I
would have phrased the conversation way differently. But it is
also very hard to hear. But then you also have
to remember it is so early on, so that's another thing. Also,
one thing that I did in the house is I
never listened to what other people's conversations were. I didn't
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want to hear because I'm not great with like hearing
what other people have to say or what their connection
is like that would call you to fire.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, so ignorance is bliss in the situation. And if
you can avoid hearing or talking about it, and sometimes
you can't, but if you can, it's the best option
because you're one hundred percent going to hear him say
something to someone that's going to hurt your feelings, even
if it's a respectable he's just complimenting someone in a
nice way. Like, it's still very emotionally confusing to hear
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someone you like say sweet things just your friend.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, no, I remember at some point we were just
like I love you, I'm so glad you had so
much fun. But I don't want to hear it. Like
that's just it's setting a boundary for yourself for you to.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
S yes, which is I agree, the right decision, but
also sometimes easier said than done, as we've.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Seen, Yeah, it's sometimes it is.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Also. Yeah, I feel bad for Rose too, because I
feel like she got caught up in a situation really
early on that just took her out, Like it was
like after that, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Basically yeah, And it's also so hard to like come
back from that because then it's like, again, it is
so little time and it goes so quickly that like
that little hiccup can defer you so much from a hundred.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Any setback on this show is very, very hard to
come back from because you were working with so limited time.
You almost need to always be moving your relationship forward
or you're gonna get left behind. And sometimes I'm not
seeing that. You know, that's not wasn't Rose's hopes and
dreams was to you know, but or anyone's really But
sometimes it, unfortunately is just the situation and it happens
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and there's nothing that can be done about it. We
also saw Natalie and Priiza go home. Any surprises there
was were they did? They feel like it was kind
of their time?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, I again, I never really talked about other
people's connection. I know Nale and Prisa are the sweetest girls,
So yeah, it is definitely surprising, and I think just
with a lot of the drama, it was surprising in
terms of like who stayed and who go But again,
you don't know other people's connection and how far along
he is with other people, but they're so sweet and
amazing and they'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well, we're gonna play a little game before we do.
Can you tease next week?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
A little bit jaw dropping?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
A little bit jaw dropping?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay dropping?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I like that. Okay, We're gonna play a quick game,
rapid fire. Get to know Sarah finaw you ready?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
What your love language?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Quality times?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
What does your go to drink at a bar?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
White wine preferably since there?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Who is someone that inspires you?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
My sister?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
What music artists would you love to see perform live?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I've seen him like five times.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
But Drake, if you were stranded on a deserted island
and could only bring two girls from your season, who
would you bring?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Two girls?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's all you get?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay? Do you know? Because she would get me out
of any situation, truly, she's so smart. And then Lettia
because she makes me laugh so much.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What is your dream vacation destination?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I really want to go to Africa?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Favorite comfort movie or TV show?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I love rom coms. How Elizabe in Ten Days? My favorite?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
How do you? How do you unwind after a long day?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I light a candle, I take a shower and I
watch a show.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
What are your three? What show are you watching right now?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
So I love to rewatch? Controversial I apparently said I
watched grazon Natter three times, which I actually have, but
I have it on just like I have it in
the background. I don't actually just like stick there.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay, Yeah, I was like, how are you doing this?
Are you you must have been only watching Graysonnatmi for
the last like twenty years of your life.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I just I just have it on in the background,
like if I'm working it's on. But like, yes, I
do watch it quite.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I've never seen one.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I think you should watch it. It's so good, But
you are like a bit of a hypochondriact, so you'd
have to get past it. Well, yeah, we're going to
like the er every single night.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Joe's like, I have that.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
What are yeh? What are three essentials you always have
in your purse?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh? Lift, gloss, hand lotion, and I'm trying to think
what else? Oh, also floss because I go out for
dinner a lot and I hate when there's like stuff
stuck in my teeth and I go out for the night.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Joe is a huge there's floss, not the strands. But
like the little packets of floss are everywhere in our apartment.
I find them everywhere.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, you have to get the picks those. Really, you
can get into it if.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
You're if you're a grown up and you don't floss,
I have a big a problem with that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
No. Yeah, it's a curbing And.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
If you could describe Grant season in one word, what
would it be?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Oh, I know this, I'm gonna say it again, jaw
dropping dropping.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Okay, well yeah, I'm say we're about halfway, so lots
more to come.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, alright, Serafina, thank you so much for taking the
time out of your busy day coming on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Thank you guys so much for having me. I had
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Of course, an to our listeners, make sure you stay
tuned to Batchel Happy Hour. We have recaps and new
interviews for you every week.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, be sure to stay tuned into Grant season of
the Bachelor and then come join us on Bachelor Happy
Hour every single week. Thanks for listening by
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bet Your Happy Hour. I'm
Joe and I'm Serena and we are here with our
guest this week, Sarah Fina. Sarah Fina, welcome to bet
Your Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Thanks, guys, thank you so much for having me. I'm
so excited.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Of course, of.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Course, where are you recording from today?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I'm in New York City. I feel like you guys
are also we are. I know, I know it is
so grand cold today. It's always gonna snow tonight apparently. Yeah,
it's been so it's been so cold, but honestly, this
week has been the warmest of it. I don't know.
(00:41):
That's how I we had like two days ago, it
wasn't bad.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Well we we live off of the West Side Highway,
so it's just.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Really you got yeah, you got the Wendy. I live
in the East Village, but I work on the West Side,
So I know what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
What do you do for work?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I work in advertising, so it's a little bit of
media buying. Yeah, I've been doing that for almost six
years now, which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Wown. Yeah, how how did you? How did you wind
up on the Bachelor?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh? So I signed up myself. I know, like, and
this is no shade to anyone. I know a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I know myself too, Okay, so I'm here to bring
I feel like girls always come on and they're like
ashamed of the fact that they didn't come on get nominator,
like scouted by casting.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So you know what, no shame in signing up yourself. Okay,
No one was looking for me, No one, damn. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Kelsey Anderson signed herself up too. Okay, look at where
she is now, engaged in love.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
For themselves for the girls, but no one. I didn't
have a friend sign me up. I fully was on
the bus on the way to work. It was after
Joey's finale and that worked out so great, and I
was like, you know what, I'm just gonna apply. It's
a fifteen minute bus ride. It took me that time,
and I signed up myself and I got to call
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that night.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
So yeah, it's so crazy though, because like when you
sign up, like you're like, I'm never gonna hear.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Never people never hearing. I was like, this is going
into the abyss. And I found out that night and
then I had interviews throughout the past couple of weeks
and it was crazy. It goes so quickly, also so fast.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
What was dating life like for you before that?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So I feel like my fallback answer has always been
like dating stocks guys are not the best, and you
know that can be true. But I feel like in
the past couple of years, I've taken accountability for myself
and I feel like I was just looking in the
wrong places and I was not finding people who I
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found people who I thought was my type, and then
I realized that my type wasn't what I needed, if
that makes sense. I was always looking for these guys
that were like outgoing life for the party, and that's
not something that I needed in my life. If I
needed someone that was more caring and nurturing, and I
just wasn't finding that. So I took six years off
(03:07):
of dating. I haven't dated anyone in six years. And
I did a lot of therapy, lots of therapy bills,
and I don't know, I just really worked on myself.
It took a lot of self growth, I think for myself.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
I think that's great. I feel like so many people
say New York is such a hard city to date in,
and I do think going into dating with this mentality
of like everyone sucks does make it hard. But I
also feel like to your credit, like when you're young
and you're dating in the city, you are meeting these
guys probably like out at bars and in these settings
where you might not be finding you might be finding
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someone great, but not someone great for you and what
you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, exactly. And it's like my therapist always told me this,
it's a thing called fortune telling. And when you say
dating sucks and everyone sucks, like that is the energy
that you're going to bring to yourself and that's the
energy that you're going to attract. So I really had
to genuinely work on shifting my mindset and not saying that.
And I know that sounds so cliche. I hate saying that,
but I did. I just I really had to work
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on myself and the energy that I put out.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I agree with that. I have a bad habit of
being like the sucks everything.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
So you can't do that, then everything will suck. It's true.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
That is so true.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
That was the mindset then that you went into Grant
season with.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
The mindset that I went in with with was just
be myself and have fun. With it, don't take it
as seriously. I know obviously I was going in. I
was taking it seriously in terms of, like I did
want to find someone, I did want to get married,
but I wanted to be my most authentic self and
stay true to who I was, and like I wanted
to continue that growth that I had worked on for
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so long. So it was, you know, I know a
lot of people share so much about themselves, like the
first night of the first week, but I really had
to stay authentic to my dating and how I date
in the real world and really build up that really
relationship because it is a fast process. But I didn't
want to rush things, if that makes sense. I really
wanted to stay authentic to who I would be.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I think that's great, And because I think it's so
easy to come on the show and be like, oh
my gosh, I have no time and maybe fall into
the trap of like sharing something before you're actually ready
to share it because you're panicked about not getting the
chance to.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, I know, and I think a lot of us
felt that way, just because I feel like our season
was slightly shorter as well in terms of time. But
I just I couldn't right away because that's just like
not who I am as a person, and I really
want to just stay true to who I was. But
I do feel like there were nuggets that I did
open up, and I feel good about every time I did.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
For night one, what are your seeing Grant for the
first time? What is your first impression of him? And
is he your tight?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah? Obviously so attractive. When I first found out, I
was so excited. I have text from my friends of
like the first night of gen season when all the
guys were out of Limo, I was like, if I
go on the show, this is the guy that I
want to be with. I promise you I will show
text group.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
You should post that. I feel like people would love that.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I think that's like, so like you like manifested him
to be your bachelor and to get on the show.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, I told you manifesting really does work, and I've
been going into it a lot more lately. But yeah,
obviously physically attractive, my type, and then just so much energy.
But you could also tell that he was so nervous,
and I think that's really admirable because you can go
into this and be so confident, but you could just
tell that he was genuinely one looking for someone, and
(06:45):
two he was just excited but also had nerves meeting everyone.
And I just I love that.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
What were the vibes like the first night? Who did
you kind of gravitate towards to?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah, vibes are really high the first I feel like
there were a lot. There was a lot going on.
There were animals, there were like there was a Vegas sign.
It was a lot. It was very chaotic. The lama
was there. It was intense, and I think just like
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going into that and like this is my first time
on camera as well, and just like there's a lama
right next to me and not I don't know how
I feel, but it was intense. But I do feel
like the girls were just so nice and welcoming. And
again I hate saying that, but it's true. Like I
think we all were in this experience and we were
all just getting to know each other. So I think
everyone just tried to put their best foot forward that night.
(07:39):
And I think I've bonded with so many girls that night.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Also, how did you come up with the big head entrance?
That was a good one.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
It was so heavy, but it has handles in the back.
So it was like, yeah, so it was fine. So
I have very dry, sarcastic humor that I feel like
some times doesn't land and gets me in trouble. But
I wanted something that showed my personality and I like
to be witty. I like the Aanter and for me,
(08:10):
it's like if you make fun of me and I
can make fun of you, Like that is an instant
match for me. And I feel like he really was
recepted to it and took it well, so I felt
like it went over really well.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, No, it was a really good one.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
What women, Which women did you connect with right away
or like a couple of days.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, if you go off of like Night one, so
many people are gonna be mad at me. But I
love all the girls. I would say Alicia, Vicki, Bailey,
and I would see Beverly Night one. And then as
I as a time progress, obviously like I grew closer
to a lot more gross.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I was gonna say, damn, your girls are gone. Yeah, dude,
we're flying solo in the mansion this week.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Week two, I was like, I think after week three
and I woke up, I was syrial. I was like,
where are my friends.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
That's hard.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
That's hard.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I was so mad at Grant and I feel like,
you guys know what I'm talking about. It's like, obviously
you're there for them, but these are your support system
in that house because you're cut off from your friends
and your family, and these are the girls that, as
weird as it is like you're dating the same guy,
they're the only people who can relate to what you're
going through at that moment. So losing your friends is like,
what the hell am I going to do today? Like
(09:27):
who am I going to talk to? Who am I
going to have breakfast with?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
So yeah, you know, you know more than I.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Do, but Joe and I want so he doesn't know.
But you imagine you get it the lake with Paradise,
like you had breakfast and every morning, imagine they went home,
you'd be having breakfast alone.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It makes sense.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
We So I would say the first couple episodes, the
drama kind of surround it Zoe, which that's yeah, that's
now much tamer. I want your opinion on that as well.
We do see you make a comment about Zoe having
a short dress or whatever, Yeah, which really isn't isn't
(10:11):
isn't the worst thing anyone's ever said to somebody on
this show.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Yeah, kind of just walk us through that and how
that went down.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, So in terms of start with like the Zoey stuff,
like the beginning.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah, because you were you were on that first group
date where she pulled him on the basketball day, right,
and that kind of feels like where everything started and
it just snowballed from there.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah. So for context, that first group date was the
night after the rose ceremony, So again, we don't know
each other very well, and I think a lot of
us were very timid going into it. It's like we've
known Grant for a day now, so we really didn't
know how to fully approach the situation. And Zoe is
definitely more of a go for what she wants kind
(10:55):
of girl, which like you have to respect to a point,
but also it can step on other people's toes because again,
we're just all getting to know each other. So I
think again, it just it ruffled some feathers, but you
can see both sides to it in terms of, like,
you know, what she wants to utilize her time in
the best way that she feels fit and that is
(11:16):
what she wanted, That's what she came here for. So
I think that kind of snowballed into the cocktail party
that night, and then into the group date the next week,
the cocktail party the next week, and I think at
this point, you know, she is definitely getting a little
bit emotional because she definitely feels isolated, and I could
(11:36):
see how she could also feel that way. But then
there's also like, well, you know, we all had a
great day and you didn't what we felt. Put all
of your effort into it, and then she gets emotional,
and I definitely made a comment and I hated that
(11:56):
wasn't my best moment. I was definitely hard. Yeah, I
was hard on myself for so long about it, But
I'm also giving myself some grace with it because I'm human,
and you know, we all say things that we don't
mean or you know that were like that was shitting
in the moment, But also we talked, and in a
weird way, it actually got Zoe and I to bond
(12:18):
because we realized that we were feeling the same things,
but we were just articulating it in different ways. And
I was going through things at that time because it
is such an emotional, rocky journey and we sometimes like
as people don't know how to communicate well. And I
really do think in a weird way, it just it
got us to really see each other in a different light.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you. I feel like this
kind of ties into this part of the story. We
see Alex cuddling her Lama, crying her eyes out about
you know, Zoe and how the girls have kind of
tried to connect with her and there was this struggle there.
Do you feel like there was this kind of maybe
(13:03):
tension or like inability to connect with Zoe. Maybe those
first few weeks that once you were able to have
that breakthrough moment helped the drama. Was Zoe moving forward?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Definitely? I think again, just coming off of that first
day and it being so intense and we're not really
seeing Zoe's true side, it definitely put a bad taste
in a lot of people's mouth, and I think it
was really hard for her to recover from that. It's
like when everyone's mad at you to an extent and
then you try to like crawl out of the grave.
(13:36):
It's very hard. So I think both of us being
on a vulnerable level. At that point, we were finally
able to just like say like, Okay, what are you
going through? What am I going through? Like it seems
like we're going through the same thing, but we're just
not saying it in the same way.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Right in your hand if you're responding to it, like
with your actions differently as well. Right, because we do
see her steal time from Ali Joe twice, which you
know that was her approach, not your approach, and there's
kind of that like, you know, I don't know why
you're doing that, but you know you're all just trying
to get the same end goal as much. But it
(14:12):
also probably makes it hard in the beginning because it
seems like you're close with you were close with Ali
Joe to maybe want to trust Zoe in the beginning
as well.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I think at that time it's like being on
that date, we all kind of bonded in that sense.
So it's like, yeah, I was definitely felt slighted because
she did still him during the time on the basketball date,
so that sucks. And again, it is such limited time.
I don't think people realize that. So in that moment,
I definitely I could see where Ali Joe was upset,
(14:45):
but then it's just a it's a really difficult situation.
It's you know, you could see both sides of it.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Okay, So now let's jump to the Carolina of it all.
So at this point in the show, which we're on
episode four, what is your take on Carolina? Because what
we figured out, what we believe is the issue is
Carolina got one on one time. A lot of the
other women in the house didn't get that one on
one time. Carolina is talking, it is very negative about
(15:16):
the whole situation in that she just still doesn't really
know Grant and all the other women are like, well,
we needn't even get that time that you got, so
fuck you. Yeah, actually yes, So what is your take
on it all?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Listen, I don't know the full story at that point
of what's going on, and I will just sum it
up in terms of, like it is a huge game
of telephone. It's like, we don't know exactly what was said,
and I think she felt a certain way after her date.
But I do feel like she should have kept that
to herself because when you feel a certain way and
(15:54):
you communicate it to other girls who haven't had time
with it, you're in a sense poisoning the well because
we have not had time with him and we have
not gotten to know him. So you having a negative
perception is going to make our heads all think, Okay,
well is this going on? Is he like not? And
I just didn't think that was there in that moment
to do.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Before we go to this week's one on one, you
were on a group date where there was only three women.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, I think that vander Pump Dogs group date.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah. I think that's the first time they ever did
a group date this early on where there's only three
people on it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And it was your second group
date of the week for all three of you because
sadly we saw Beverly went home and that spot opened up.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I know sadly Beverly did go home like so much
love for her, honestly, truly, she's so amazing. But yes,
a spot did open up, and that is my dream date.
I love Dogs one and then two leading meeting Lisa
Vanderbump was a dream. I'm a huge Vandles fan, so
seeing her was so exciting. But yeah, it's just like
really special. Again, we had such limited time, so also
(17:09):
having that little extra time this week. That week was
just really beneficial, and I really feel like Graham and
I had a great conversation in terms of like me
not feeling like I'm opening up fully. Like I said,
it was really hard for me from the beginning, and
we do talk about my ability to open up and
how I am slightly and little by little throughout the time.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
There, got it nice? Okay, so you guys, you guys
go to Madrid. So your first time on Madrid?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
No, it's my second time. Yeah, so really exciting, so amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
You get a one on one date which just looks awful,
Like were you surprised?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Guys? No, best date of my life. I know that
sounds psychotic and there's probably something wrong with me, But.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Are you an adrenaline junkie?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Like?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Are you someone that would want to bungee jump somewhere?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
No? But I was like, you know what if I
get a one on one date, like I love clothes,
don't get me wrong, but I didn't want a shopping date,
like I feel like that's just so. I didn't want that.
I wanted something that was exciting and something that was fun.
And when I found out I was doing that, I
could not have been happier because I again, I fin
to Madrid, and I don't know Grant went to Madrid,
but we've both never been to Madrid and bungee jumps,
(18:29):
so I think it's just like it's something that was
so cool to do with someone and I loved it.
I and the rain added an extra element of excitement.
I my hair looked terrible, but it's fine.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Were you worried about like you guys were being you know,
tied up. Were you worried like your head was going
to hit his head or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, but I did ask her if it was if
anyone has ever done this in the rain, and she
said she didn't think so. So I was like, I
wasn't sure about that, but you know, we just went
for it.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Ayperst you did sign? Was was that like a you know,
like you may die?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yea? Yeah? Yeah. I was like if you can't do it, yeah,
you can't do it essentially, and she was like, yeah,
you'll be fine. I think, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Grant was freaking out though, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
He He was freaking out. But I was just like,
I need a hairdye and I'm ready to go, like
I was so excited to do it.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I feel like that's a good thing you needed to
balance out on days like that. You can't both be
totally freaking out. I mean you can, but it's a
lot harder.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Yeah, And honestly, like throughout all of this, he's made
me feel so comfortable and so confident and so safe
that it was really nice to kind of reciprocate that
in that time because I genuinely, I mean, I was afraid,
but I didn't out really show it, because I think
if both of us freak out, it's just a mess.
So I'm really happy I was able to internalize out
of it.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
What were your goals or intentions going into your one
on one date? What were you hoping for.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
To fully open up? I think that, you know, we
had small nuggets of you know, opening up and little
things that we spoke about, but I really feel like
I wanted to scratch more of the surface during this time,
because again, it's really hard when you know it's shuffling
girls and you only get like a few minutes. And
this was genuinely a time where I could sit down
(20:24):
and actually have a conversation with him and just feel
comfortable and not like you know, a girl's coming around
the corner in two minutes. So I feel like we
really needed this time, especially like hometowns being in two weeks, not.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
A while they're in two weeks. Not to get off,
not to get enough of this topic, but jumping back
or just going back to your the group date, were
you at all worried that since you were on a
smaller group date that may take you out of the
running for a one on one date?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Definitely, because at that point it's it was fourteen girls
and then it goes down to ten and it's so
crazy to even say this, but at ten only three
girls have had a one on one day. Wow, So
that's that's insane. And then again, hometown's being in two weeks,
it's like the chances of you getting a one on
one are very slim, So when you do get it,
(21:16):
you're so lucky for that time and so fortunate for
that time. So then I think that goes back to
the Carolina stuff where it's like, you know, when you
do have that moment, appreciate it, if that makes sense.
And yeah, were.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
You surprised that you got the one on one date
this week? Because I was saying you know, we saw you,
Lytia and Dina were on that small group date, and
then Lytia got that night portion, and then we saw
you and Dina got that one on one day. So
if I'm in your shoes when Dina gets that first
one on one, I'm probably thinking like, it's not going
to be me, Like I'm not. Also, yeah, I love
(21:50):
and if it's.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Not, it's almost like you're going home because he chose
two women from the group day and then not you.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'd be freaking out.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
No, I was teaking. I was like, I came all
the way to Spain, like I think I had four
sangrias that You're like, it's over for me. I was like,
you know what, I'm in Spain. I'm just going to
drink as many sangria as as possible. And like I
was tweaking. I was, but no, I mean it really
does take patience at that point, and everyone's probably like,
(22:20):
why is this girl freaking out? But yeah, to your point,
it's like, you know that we had the group date,
Latia gets one and Indina gets one, and then you're like, okay,
well what about me? In nonsense, but no, I mean
I just had to wait that night, and that just
shows how much I am as a person too. I
never realized.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
So then we go jump to the night portion of
the date and it's going, I mean my point of view,
it is going really well.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, it seemed to be going great. It seems like
you guys were both really able to connect on your
relationships with your mom. We loved the moment that we
saw between the two of you. You know, obviously you
got really deep, but this was a little bit more
of like a lighthearted well he's.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Like, well, well, when I go to make out with you,
you're not really like into it, so.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Like, and he's like trying to like unpack like what
that means about you as a person, and you're like,
I just don't want my mom to see me kissing you.
It's not that deep.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So I mean, so I didn't feel that way in
the moment, but like, okay, it's for contacts. When you
are kissing on camera, it's a camera crew all of America,
your producer who you've become. Yes, it's awkward. It is.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I used to sometimes be like, could you guys back up,
Like I'm trying to pretend you're not here, and I'm
I can't, like you have like, can you back up?
It's hard, it is, it is so hard, and it's
like nothing against And I also am really weird about
PDA as well, So this is PDA to the eleventh degree.
(23:50):
And I felt so bad in that moment because I'm like,
I promise you, it is not you. It is just
my mom is watching right now, and like, yeah, you
have that in the back of your head.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah. It was just like, why am I thinking about
my mom?
Speaker 3 (24:03):
But I get it, I get it. That was so funny.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Did that land with him though? Do you think he
was like, Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
No. I think it totally made sense, especially because I've
talked so much about my mom and like for context
as well, my family did not want me to do
the show. They were very against it. I don't think
Reality TV was in their cards for me. But I
think eventually they were like, you know what, if this
is what you want to do, as long as you
(24:31):
show yourself in a way that you're proud of at
the end of the day, go for it. So I
think he understood that, like my hesitation at times, but no,
it's not that I don't like making out with him.
It's just that I am afraid.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Of all the conversations you guys had on your one
on one, was there one that stood out as being
the most impactful, the most meaningful.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, I think I don't know what's shown, but I
did talk about my dating life and just I had
a very hard time dating a couple of years ago
because I feel like I was never really chosen, if
that makes sense. I feel like no one really and
again it could have been because I also wasn't fully
(25:15):
giving myself, but I just feel like, you know, I
heard so many times like you're so great on paper,
and you're so kind, and you're so nice, and you're
so beautiful, but you're just not for me, and that
after a while cuts so deep and it's very hard
to hear. And throughout my entire time with Grant, I
really do feel like he wanted to hear what I
had to say, and he listened and he let me
(25:37):
have that sace to open up.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
That's great, that's amazing. It's got to be hard to
be in an environment where he's dating a bunch of
other girls. If that is something that you've experienced in
your past, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, it's like yeah, you've experienced this, but you go
on a show where a guys dating twenty five girl.
It's like, make it make sense. But yeah, you're like.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
He chows me and everyone else tonight.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Great. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Would you say after this date, would you would you say,
like this process did? Was the process working for you?
Were you like, Okay, I get how I get I
get this.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, it was definitely working. And before this, I thought
I was like just fully whole, I had everything together,
and I felt like I was, you know, I fully
worked on myself. But throughout this, you learned so much
more about yourself and you work on yourself even more.
And I didn't think I was gonna be able to
(26:33):
dig as deep as I feel like I could have
and opened up as much. So not only do I
feel like it was working in terms of like I
was going to connection, but I was also just like
growing myself a lot more as well.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Jumping to the cocktail party, we see a lot go
down a lot with Carolina and Juliana, and then we
also see Carolina and Rose not really get into it,
but kind of just you know, circle back to what
has been going on between them with the conversation and
(27:07):
the drama.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
With Graham Rose at this point, right, Yeah, yeah, that's
that's a great feeling because yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Like three one, Yeah, that's okaat But we see Rose
send yourself home. Was that a surprise to you? What
was the reaction in the house.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, So the Rose situation, will I'll say, is I
think going back to week three in La that cocktail
party or that Rose ceremony night, you really don't see
Rose speak much. And I think it's because she was
one caught so caught off guard. And I think, similar
to myself, I think she she thinks about things before
(27:47):
she actually speaks. So I think she was like really
trying to understand what one he was saying, what he
might have said in the past, and what Carolyna might
have said about her. And I think from then she
kind of treated back into herself and took that also
into Spain. And I think going back going to the
Rose ceremony in Madrid, I think all that bubbled up
(28:08):
because she again it is this giant phone of telephone
at this point, and all of that bubbling up. I
think it unfortunately like bursted on her, and I think
it was just I think she reached her Lemon at
that point, So I just I feel so bad about that.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
That's what it felt. It felt like, as much as
we were sad to see her go, it felt like
it was the best decision for her based on how
everything had played out.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Okay, okay, hypothetical hair right, And I don't know, I
don't know, we don't really know what went down. But
if you were on stage dancing with Grant and then
you come back to the mansion and you were chatting.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
With Juliana Juliana Bailey.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Anyway, and Juliana's like, well, just just so you know,
when he was dancing with you, he told me he
was thinking of me. How would you handle that like
I would? For me, I think it's hard to keep
that in Like, how do you not call the guy
out because you're like, well, what the fuck?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Yes, I think it goes back to it's not what's sad,
but it's how you say it. And I think I
would have phrased the conversation way differently. But it is
also very hard to hear. But then you also have
to remember it is so early on, so that's another thing. Also,
one thing that I did in the house is I
never listened to what other people's conversations were. I didn't
(29:35):
want to hear because I'm not great with like hearing
what other people have to say or what their connection
is like that would call you to fire.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, so ignorance is bliss in the situation. And if
you can avoid hearing or talking about it, and sometimes
you can't, but if you can, it's the best option
because you're one hundred percent going to hear him say
something to someone that's going to hurt your feelings, even
if it's a respectable he's just complimenting someone in a
nice way. Like, it's still very emotionally confusing to hear
(30:05):
someone you like say sweet things just your friend.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, no, I remember at some point we were just
like I love you, I'm so glad you had so
much fun. But I don't want to hear it. Like
that's just it's setting a boundary for yourself for you to.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
S yes, which is I agree, the right decision, but
also sometimes easier said than done, as we've.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Seen, Yeah, it's sometimes it is.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Also. Yeah, I feel bad for Rose too, because I
feel like she got caught up in a situation really
early on that just took her out, Like it was
like after that, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Basically yeah, And it's also so hard to like come
back from that because then it's like, again, it is
so little time and it goes so quickly that like
that little hiccup can defer you so much from a hundred.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Any setback on this show is very, very hard to
come back from because you were working with so limited time.
You almost need to always be moving your relationship forward
or you're gonna get left behind. And sometimes I'm not
seeing that. You know, that's not wasn't Rose's hopes and
dreams was to you know, but or anyone's really But
sometimes it, unfortunately is just the situation and it happens
(31:13):
and there's nothing that can be done about it. We
also saw Natalie and Priiza go home. Any surprises there
was were they did? They feel like it was kind
of their time?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
I mean, I again, I never really talked about other
people's connection. I know Nale and Prisa are the sweetest girls,
So yeah, it is definitely surprising, and I think just
with a lot of the drama, it was surprising in
terms of like who stayed and who go But again,
you don't know other people's connection and how far along
he is with other people, but they're so sweet and
amazing and they'll be fine.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well, we're gonna play a little game before we do.
Can you tease next week?
Speaker 2 (31:57):
A little bit jaw dropping?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
A little bit jaw dropping?
Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay dropping?
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I like that. Okay, We're gonna play a quick game,
rapid fire. Get to know Sarah finaw you ready?
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:07):
What your love language?
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Quality times?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
What does your go to drink at a bar?
Speaker 2 (32:15):
White wine preferably since there?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Who is someone that inspires you?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
My sister?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
What music artists would you love to see perform live?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
I've seen him like five times.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
But Drake, if you were stranded on a deserted island
and could only bring two girls from your season, who
would you bring?
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Two girls?
Speaker 1 (32:39):
It's all you get?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Okay? Do you know? Because she would get me out
of any situation, truly, she's so smart. And then Lettia
because she makes me laugh so much.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
What is your dream vacation destination?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I really want to go to Africa?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Favorite comfort movie or TV show?
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I love rom coms. How Elizabe in Ten Days? My favorite?
Speaker 1 (33:06):
How do you? How do you unwind after a long day?
Speaker 2 (33:12):
I light a candle, I take a shower and I
watch a show.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
What are your three? What show are you watching right now?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
So I love to rewatch? Controversial I apparently said I
watched grazon Natter three times, which I actually have, but
I have it on just like I have it in
the background. I don't actually just like stick there.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay, Yeah, I was like, how are you doing this?
Are you you must have been only watching Graysonnatmi for
the last like twenty years of your life.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I just I just have it on in the background,
like if I'm working it's on. But like, yes, I
do watch it quite.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I've never seen one.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
I think you should watch it. It's so good, But
you are like a bit of a hypochondriact, so you'd
have to get past it. Well, yeah, we're going to
like the er every single night.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Joe's like, I have that.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
What are yeh? What are three essentials you always have
in your purse?
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh? Lift, gloss, hand lotion, and I'm trying to think
what else? Oh, also floss because I go out for
dinner a lot and I hate when there's like stuff
stuck in my teeth and I go out for the night.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Joe is a huge there's floss, not the strands. But
like the little packets of floss are everywhere in our apartment.
I find them everywhere.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, you have to get the picks those. Really, you
can get into it if.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
You're if you're a grown up and you don't floss,
I have a big a problem with that.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
No. Yeah, it's a curbing And.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
If you could describe Grant season in one word, what
would it be?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Oh, I know this, I'm gonna say it again, jaw
dropping dropping.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Okay, well yeah, I'm say we're about halfway, so lots
more to come.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, alright, Serafina, thank you so much for taking the
time out of your busy day coming on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Thank you guys so much for having me. I had
so much fun.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Of course, an to our listeners, make sure you stay
tuned to Batchel Happy Hour. We have recaps and new
interviews for you every week.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, be sure to stay tuned into Grant season of
the Bachelor and then come join us on Bachelor Happy
Hour every single week. Thanks for listening by
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