August 22, 2025 • 44 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into more of your questions! We start things off with a breakdown of this week’s drama-filled episode of “Bachelor in Paradise.” Kathy and Susan have so much to say about Sean and Allyshia. They give us their real thoughts on all the drama that’s gone down on the beach. Then, we get into our advice portion of the episode, starting with the question of the day: How can you tell when apologizing is just to clear your conscience versus is actually good for the person you hurt? And, of course, we answer your questions! From being caught cheating to a partner lying about how you met, we have our listeners covered! Plus, we end this episode with a round of Never Have I Ever. Tune in now to hear all this and more, and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us. We're so excited to be back. I'm in
sunny Canada, Susan, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's hot and humid here, but we did have a
gorgeous no human weekend here in Philadelphia, and.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
My got the weather in can I just say Texas.
You know they say it's hotter than hell. That is
Texas this time of year. Canada is gorgeous, windows open.
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's like San Diego weather. And today we are going
to be answering more of the fan questions. Make sure
you keep them coming and submitting. We love reading them.
Just go to if you forgot Hell, I'm going to
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Speaker 1 (00:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:03):
Absolutely can Okay, So time to get into the episode, Kathy.
We've got to start with this week's episode of Paradise,
the Treasure Chest Challenge. Do tell I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So here was the thing. We had to decide who
was going to be the hunter and who was going
to be trapped in the and you trapped in the chest.
And you know, Susan, I have claustrophobia. I don't like
it how and not to mention being locked in the
chest when it's one hundred and eight degrees.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I would have never gotten in never.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, let me just say I wanted Keith to change
his will and he wasn't willing, but he did. Keith
is more claustrophobic than I am, so I agreed to
do it. And you did see I had a little
alcohol help in there.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So that's soll well sneaky, a little something. I said, Okay,
that's why she's there. But you said, why send a
man to do a woman's job? Kathy, I think you
got would have actually won had you been out there.
He wasn't. First of all, walkie talkie sucked and he
was I'm just watching him.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
He was struggling and I I love Keith. The truth
is and I said it on the show. You have
to be a good you have to enunciate and speak slowly,
and I did. It was so hot in there, I
cannot tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
He couldn't hear you. I mean he was going I
was like, oh my god, Oh my god, You're not
going to make it.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I know. And when I watched it back and saw
Jess and Spencer, it was like, oh, well, where's the key?
Oh put the key in? Okay, next job. You know,
it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Johonathan speaks up right when you're about to start the
challenge and he said, I have to pee. I'm like, what,
You're never gonna make it.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You're never could. It was a really fun challenge, but
I will tell you it was at least for Keith
and me. It was a tough challenge. But again, all
the challenges were so much fun. Yes, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Whisha and Sean did really well.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
They did good.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Of course Jess and her Man. I just love those two.
How about their yoga day and they're so in love.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So here's the thing, Alicia, I thought they did really well.
You know, it was fun. It was a fun activity.
I never thought for a minute that I was going
to be buried alive. You know. I had to get
back to you.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
How about when Leah was crying, Like, when I see
Jonathan again, I'm going to teach him. You hold the
girl that's crying. He was so cold I think that's
why you don't have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, no, no, I'm gonna I love Leah and Jonathan,
but I have to defend Jonathan here. Okay, he did
not in my opinion, he did not want to send
out the wrong message.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
She was crying, and when a woman cries, you hold her.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Her. But well he did that rose ceremony. But that's
another story. I just think that he they have a friendship,
and I just think he felt weird about it, But
you do.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I think he was uncomfortable and he should have just
held her and said, it's okay, babe, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Look out, Susan's coming for you. I'm going to teach
you something.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Jonathan, Kathy, when Sean told you to just I thought
he was going to say, zip it. I would have
lost my mind.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
He's like, got it. I mean he's entitled. He's entitled.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay, let's talk about politician Shaan, Like what was done.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
About the Parliament of Paradise? I know, Wait, what can
I have some cred here? Did you notice your girl
was not in the middle of this drama? I mean, honestly,
I'm watching this going I'm going oh no, no, no,
stay away. Stay away, but I thought where you were
(04:57):
going I could I didn't understand on the show, and
I didn't understand it watching it back. The guy was
politicking like crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He should run, he should run for.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
His father is a politician. So I'm watching this going
on and I'm like, I'm like, are you kidding me?
But here's the thing I have to say. When did
you hear me say two things? Because Kathy is honest.
When I said that Brian and Parison needed to leave,
(05:31):
I really thought Keith and I were going home. I
really did. That's why I wore the beautiful white dress.
I said. I bought that in case I got engaged. Right,
I'm not getting engaged. I'm going home to wear the
white dress. But here's the thing. Parisa was so unhappy,
like you know, you remember when she goes to his
room in a prior episode and she was so worried
(05:53):
about the relationship and then so you know, I don't
think they were struggling, and I wanted them to go
home and find see if they had love at home
without about us.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Alicia talking with the girls, and she really had her
feelings hurt and she opened up. I think that was
the wisest thing she could have done, and she could
feel better afterwards, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And then and then the other thing that I said,
I you know, when Sean came to talk to Keith
and me and he said, well, we have one of
the strongest relationship with me. I looked him right now,
I said, no, you don't. We'll wait.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Sean and Cat whoa cat showed me a different side
of Cat this week. I help me say, tell me,
First of all, I thought they were friends prior to
as well. She didn't act like she gave two hoots
about his friendship, let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And I didn't think it was good at all.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And because the money's involved, it's a whole new game.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Okay, So let me just say my feelings on that. Okay.
I have said from the beginning when they introduced the
money factor, I said, oh boy, here we go. You know,
love for money, which one's gonna win out? And my
my thought on this episode, if I had to, you know,
if I had to give the summation, it would be
(07:14):
it's it's starting to get real, it's and so some
people are there for love, and like Jonathan and Land.
Jonathan comes right out and says it. He's there for
the money, Keith and I had said on and it
was shown. I think last week we're not taking money
out of kid's hands. But you've got this thing now
where the people who are in love? I mean, I'm
(07:37):
sure you heard it when Jess and Spencer told each
other they're falling in love and Jess says, whoaa he's
and Spencer says, oh, it's about you know, there's a
lot of money involved. And what does Jess say? Whoa
whoa whoa. We came here to find love, and that
to me, sunded up the whole episode. You can have
(07:58):
love and you can have my but if you don't
have love with the money, you're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And it just said this would be a great start
for our future with the money, but if they don't,
they were fine. Now let's get down to the Rose ceremony.
First of all, Dale farting. I lost it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Listen. I love Dale. He can do anything he wants
and I'm still going to support him, don't care love.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Him, and I was quite surprised. More so, not only
did Alicia and Sean they left on their own, but
the girl's reaction.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I have to interrupt, Okay, you did. I don't think
people picked up on this after they left with integrity
and we can talk about that. Did they really Jesse
Palmer says, well, they were going home anyway. Yes, they
(08:54):
were voted off. They dits. We all okay, well no,
some other people said to me, do you think a
third couple would have gone? It's like, no, they were
the couple.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Go we're going home. But they did that before they
knew that.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
They didn't know. The feeling I got was we know
we're going home, so we're gonna get out of here first.
But when Sean, when when Alicia says, let's leave with it,
we're you know, we're leaving with integrity, and then he
pops off. Sean pops off and says, don't call me
when this one goes sideways.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I didn't have to be cocky.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well that's not right.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And person and Bresa and Brian they left with no ruse,
and then they showed the previews for next week. I
was dying. First of all. When Keith starts, I was like, what,
you're homesick, you want to go home. You're there for
a reason. Now it's a game. Now, okay, it's not
about love. You know, you have a friendship, and to
(09:54):
be perfectly honest with you, because you guys had such
a great friendship, I would have I assume he went
out last week as.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, present tenth we have a great friendship.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yes, well sorry, you have a good friendship. But I
would have thought because of that, yous weren't a real
threat to them. Get it, but you guys are very smart.
They don't know if you're going to try to steal
the money or not. I assume that they would have
let you go instead. The Brian and the Parisa like
(10:26):
that was coming for a while, Well, that's it, Susan.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I think they had all the fun with Brian telling
Bailey that whole thing, right, I think that was I
think Brian was going.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
How about just saying, oh my gosh when he said
something about their future and she goes, I don't know
that I'm going to be ready to move right in
with you, and she went the whole.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Night, she was so in love.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
They were falling in lego. What did you tell say.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, remember it's a show,
and it's it's a truncated version. You know you don't
have months here to fall in love. So they say,
they're saying they're falling in love. Are you going to
move in with a guy you've known for whatever, a month,
six weeks. I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No, no, So I think it was just going. I
respect you, that's all it is, Kathy, I do.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I hope that's all. Yeah. I'm just saying that's a
lot of pressure as a mom or moths. Would you
want your daughter to move in with the guys she
met six weeks ago? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, No, of course not. But no, I don't think
you're talking about the future. They're saying they've fallen in
love with each other. I think they are the sweetest
couple on the whole show.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm sorry, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You're not a couple.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We're a friend couple.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, but that's not a couple. You're friends and good friends.
But the show, to me, is about falling in love
right finding your partner.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I'm sorry. This show is about finding love and maybe
finding five hundred thousands.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, twist in there, didn't they so I'd be really
interesting to see next week.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I think, well, you saw it next week. They hinted
they gave a teaser about camping.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes, I boy, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You know my.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Idea camping, Kathy is no phone in the room.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So I'm just going to tell you I love to camp.
I love I love tent camping. And I think people
would be surprised to hear that. Now you saw the
previous I'm camping in a very expensive silk dress.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
But still, whit's the last time you camped.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Caitlin, my daughter, her husband and I camped right before.
It's been like two years. Because sleeping bags I have, Susan,
I have a tent. I have a sleeping bag. I
have a pad for the sleeping bag. I have cooking utensils.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I bug spray, I love it. I'm telling you it's
like when I come home I need to delouse myself. Yes,
but I love camping.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're not afraid. I just creatures out there.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You don't like it.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I told you my idea of camping is no phone
in the room.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You mean the hotel room.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
In the room, period of time you want to put me.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Wait, I thought when you said that, I heard tent.
I'm thinking, all right, you can leave your phone outside
the tent. There is nothing as great as unzipping your
tent and looking up at the sky and the.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Stars, walk out the cabin door in the morning and
look at that same sky and be perfectly happy and
poop on a toilet cut out in the woods.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Business Why you and I love each other like people
would not think. They probably would think you would camp
and not me. It's exactly the opposite vaccination, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
All right, this was really good. Now I think we're
going to have to get into our advice portion of
this episode. I'll start us off.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
With the question of the day.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
When you've done something wrong, how can you decipher whether
coming clean is best for the person you hurt versus
just trying to clear your own conscious?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh oh, I have the answer for crazy. Yeah, well
we may disagree on this. Actually, for me, if I've
done something wrong and I think that apologize and first
of all is always right. But if I come clean
(14:53):
and it's going to further hurt you, I'm not coming clean.
I'm gonna come I'm going.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
As best for the person that you hurt versus.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I'm I'm always that's right, I said, I'm always going
to come clean and apologize unless it's right, it's selective
coming clean if it's best for the person. I'm not
there to decide what is best for you. So if
I feel like coming clean is going to further hurt you,
(15:24):
I'm not coming clean. I'm not even but with clear
my conscience. Well I cud, I said what I had
to say. I feel better now, uh uh huh huh,
not me? What about you?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I would definitely when I admit when I do something wrong,
when people, if somebody tells me, I.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Why I do too?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But what if telling me but it's already said? You
can't take back what you've said?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Right? No, but if if if you did something, said
something to me, and you've done something wrong and now
now and maybe not to me, maybe you've done something
wrong and you said some about my family or something,
and you and in clearing your conscience and in apologizing,
(16:10):
you dig the hole deeper. Have you ever heard of
that happening? Like stop quit while you're ahead, Like I
get it, you're sorry, but now you're making it worse.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
My conscience always feels better when I admit my fault.
And if I've hurt anybody, I'm sincerely sorry.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yes, so am I. But if clearing your conscience makes
the other person feel worse, like you have to give
them more information, like, oh my god, Susan, I'm glad
you feel better now that you've apologized. Now you've also
just told now you've made me feel worse.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't feel better that I apologized. I feel better
whether it's accepted and things go back to normal, but
I would feel bad the entire time. I don't understand
how whether the question reads when you've done something wrong.
Can you decipher whether coming clean is best for the
person you've hurt or just to clear you. You seem
(17:07):
with always best, the truth will always set you free,
even if people are upset.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
With We're going to handle that one in Stone. I
guess what I'm saying is sometimes when you're not you,
but when one is apologizing and they have to give
more context to understand. You know, I'm sorry, Susan, but
here's what was going on. I'm making it up. You're
going to laugh like I'm sorry I did that, but
(17:32):
I was sleeping with Frederic at the time, And you
know what I'm saying, It's like, sometimes you can add
insult to the injury. So I think sometimes it's a
simple apology sometimes is better, and it's always You're exactly right,
it's always better to be honest. But I think sometimes
you don't need to add. Yeah, all the information could
(17:55):
agree on that. Okay, how about this. Let me give
you an example to help you understand where I'm coming from.
Ok what if someone cheated on someone ten years ago?
They did it one time and then and now you know,
they told their partner, Like, is that worth hurting them
(18:16):
to say that they cheated? You should go to your greed? Oh,
but you just said the truth is I was the
best truth? Will say your break I've done.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But in a situation like you're saying, ten years ago,
he cheated and you cheated.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You cheated on your partner. Ten years later, you decide
to come clean and tell your partner, would it be
worth hurting them? No? Oh, but the truth set you're afraid.
That's what I'm saying. Sometimes the context makes it worse,
so you don't always come but it might make you
(18:50):
feel better. Your own conscience might feel better.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Oh it's your own guilt. Yes, yes, yes, it wouldn't
benefit that, So.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
That's what I'm saying. So sometimes it's better to keep
your mouth, not your you know what I'm saying. Yes, yes,
I agree. However, if I'm cheating on someone, it's not
gonna be once in ten years. You're not going to
cheat you right off, let's start those fan quests. Let's
we're going to get into these fan of questions. I'm
(19:17):
going to start us off at the first one. This
one is from anonymous. Hi, ladies, I'm in a tough
spot and could really use some help. This past weekend,
I went out with my friends to a club. The
next morning, one of the girls sat me down and
told me I made out with a guy towards the
end of the night and gave him my phone number.
(19:40):
I'm currently in a four month relationship and I'm panicking.
Do I tell him and apologize? My group is split.
Half think I should, the other half think it'll do
more harm than good.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
What do I do? Thanks, ladies? First of all, she
don't remember how you.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
First of all, are you well where I was called?
First of all, she doesn't remember because I'm going to
go with she was drunk, And what do I always say?
Being drunk is never an excuse for bad behavior. So girlfriend, yeah,
drank too much? Now you got a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
See now, it's too many people know, because if you
decide to keep your mouth shut, then somebody else might
tell him. I would try would you do that? I
don't know. Maybe just say, babe, I got so drunk.
I think I kissed somebody. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Well,
first of all, a fourth she doesn't remember doing it.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So yeah, Well, and like I said, drinking is not
an excuse for bad behavior. But what would you do?
What would you do? I know what I would do.
You would zip it? I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I wouldn't I tell him the truth? Yeah, like I said, no.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You just said zip it? Which is it? You can't
tell him?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But if I didn't remember doing it, I'd have to
tell him. My friends told me I kissed somebody last night,
and I don't remember doing it.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I mean, listen, whether there are two or more in
his name, there's gossip, so he's going to find out.
So you might as well come clean. But I would
come clean because that's who I am. And I would
say I remember doing it. I would say John, I
(21:28):
am so sorry my future guys. John, Is there John
out there who wants me? I would say, John, I'm
so sorry, here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
This is what happened.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I got drunk and there's no excuse for that. I
got drunk and I didn't know. Told this morning when
Susan told me that I made out with a guy,
it's bad favor. And you know what, John, I think
I need to stop drinking because I have no memory
of it. I want to go forward with you. I
hope you will forgive me. And if he says I'm
out of here, you know what you learned really quickly.
(22:04):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I wouldn't drink anymore. I've never been black out drunk.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Have you wait? Have I ever been black eyed drunk?
Maybe once you didn't remember anything? No, but I mean
I don't remember, so maybe you know. I don't drink
to the point of getting drunk because I subscribe. I
take my own advice. You get drunk. There is no excuse.
You cannot say. I cannot say to you, Susan, I'm
(22:29):
so sorry. I got really drunk. What did I h
That's not an excuse. So I don't know if I've
been black eyed drunk. I don't think so. A lot
of people use it. Yeah, well stop using it. That's
my advice.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We got a second question, Susan, I need to know
if you think I'm overreacting. I just found out that
my boyfriend of three years completely lied to me about
how we met. Oh boy, and I feel so weird. Basically,
his best friend slipped up while we were at this
(23:04):
weekend and said, I'm so glad you two are together.
Seeing him be so into you for so long and
not go for it for over a year was agonizing, like,
look at what he would have missed out on. I
was confused because when my boyfriend and I met, we
struck up conversation in the library at our college, and
(23:26):
I have always believed he met me or knew of
me for the first time. That day, after pressing his
best friend for more details, he told me that he
met me at a party freshman year and was crushing
on me from Afar for an entire year before we met.
(23:46):
His best friend apologized profusely and said he assumed I
knew that was the deal. Now I feel really icky
that he lied and was crushing on me from Afar.
I don't know. It makes me feel weird and I
haven't mentioned it to my boyfriend yet. Any ideas and
what to do next? Thanks? Lady, Yes that I have
an idea. Stop that is like a compliment, you idiot.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know what I'm thinking. I'm reading this going this
girl is under the age of twenty five. I'm like, yeah,
the blankety blank over it?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Whois like me for that long?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
And you finally asked me where can I find a guy?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
God? I mean seriously, this is youth at its best.
All right here, you obviously listen to our podcast. Listen
to me now, thank the guy the best friend for
telling you that, and your heart should just be panning
right now. Who cares?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Wait, I'm sorry, I'm going to a whole different level
where if he told you I didn't care. You're with
the guy for three years, you're happy? What is wrong
with you? What is wrong with youth of today? I'm
sorry for thinking.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It's not thinking at all. That's a problem, sweetheart. It's
a blessing. It's a blessing. Just think about it. He
has been admiring you for a year and he didn't
have the courage to come up to you for a
whole year.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Blessing, and you're thinking it's weird. What is weird about that? She?
You know what this girl probably thinks it's weird of
if he sends her flowers. Honey, whoever you are, you
need to get over this. You met him makes her
get over it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That is a compliment above all.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, I've seen him into you for so wait
and agonizing. I was confused because when my boyfriend I met,
we struck up a car. You know what was incredible?
He in a backup, sweetheart, not you, sweetheart, sweetheart Anonymous.
I am so sorry that you met this guy in
(25:53):
the library at college, had this great conversation. You were
attracted to each other. You met that day, stars in
the sky. It was like love at first sight. Sucks
to be you get.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
What if that's your biggest problem? You are blessed, young lady.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I mean, I'm sorry that may be out't know where
it came from. This is the strangest question we have
ever had. I love you, and I'm so glad that
you are in love with this guy and have a
boyfriend of three years.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Don't worry how you met brace him for this, embrace.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Think how lucky you are, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I mean, we both feel the same way. But what
if what if he studied her in a way and
he knew things about her, and he was trying to
impress her, but he already knew.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
It was almost like a stalk kind of Okay, now
you've just gone from Anonymous enjoy it to creep. I'm
with you, Anonymous.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
If that's the case, that's weird. That And again here
I am and this positive thinker. I would think, Oh,
how sweet he wanted to get to know what I
like so he could Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
But no, no, no, no, no, whoa no. If I'm
going down to your example, if in fact he knew
her favorite flowers and he knew where she went to
a bar, and so all of a sudden he's showing up,
you know, she starts thinking back on the last I
saw or whatever this one. Yeah, now it's stalker ish.
(27:28):
Now it's weird. Now I don't like it. So Anonymous,
if that's the case, I apologize. Maybe it's weird. I
think what you have to do, Anonymous, is reevaluate how
he's treated you, are the things he knew or is
it just it wasn't the happenstance meeting that you thought
it was. The Other thing I will say is if
you met him in freshman year and you don't remember it,
(27:51):
you clearly have too many guys chasing after you, so
you might think about that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I still think it was a compliment. But if it
were the other case.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I can understand that.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But then so she you know, obviously cluing something.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Get over it. Three years. I'm sorry, it's three years.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Something's working. Don't let look at a gift horse in
the map.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, all right, you know what if he if he's
sending you flowers and and he's you know, he watched
you shop for flowers and you bunch of the same
ones ten times, say thank you, Oh thanks for writing
in that. We enjoyed that one.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Alrighty Kat. Today we're gonna play never.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Since his favorite, Never My Ever.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Kathy and I are going to switch off saying things
we've never done. I think I'm finally getting this game.
I swear if the other person has done it, they
put a finger down or drink wine. Right, the first
person with five fingers loses.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I'll start us off.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh this is different.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Okay, I'm just drinking, Susan, you put your fingers down.
I'm just going to be drinking. It's easier, all right,
go ahead, start all right.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
First thing I've never slipped with my boss to get ahead.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'm not drinking. I have never so no or lied
to get ahead. No, we're not. Okay, we're gonna be
boring at this cat. We're gonna be boring. It's all
get up, all right, here's my first one. Never have
I ever dated a man that one of my friends
dated first?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Oh, I had that one too.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Have you done that?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Have you done it? Hell Susan, we gotta get some drinking.
Your turn.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Never have I ever been on Dancing with the Stars,
but I hope it happens this year.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
We can't drink to that one either, because you haven't.
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Never have I ever disrespected and older or in Catholic
school and none or a priest.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I was scared to death. I've never disrespected well. First
of all, I never went to Catholic school. So I'm
just gonna have a drink because you know, cheers to confession.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I'm drinking. Didn't go to Catholic school. Okay, I can't
say this one because I did. It's my turn, it's
my drink. You can't do the ball. Never have I
ever sent to a spicy selfie? Don't license and drink up?
Uh huh. There she is drinking up. I have. Why
(30:39):
am I not surprised with your boyfriend? I mean I haven't.
I never do with my husband ever.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Okay, never have I ever?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Oh yes I have. Okay, I'll give an easy one.
Never have I ever stolen anything from a store.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I stole pack sears when I was fourteen years old.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
You know what I just remembered. I stole a pack
of gum once when I was young. Oh god, I
have to take two SIPs now. I forgot and you
just said that.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Okay, I didn't get caught that, Kathy. Never have I
ever farted and blamed it on someone else.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You just Susan. You're supposed to be saying one, but
I never gone. You just want to drink. Here's one
for you. Never have I ever let a man take
me shopping and then let him pay the bill? Oh god,
(31:54):
are you drinking? No?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
But I take men shopping and I pay the bill.
You no, seriously.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No, Wait, I want to back up, and then I
want you to take two SIPs of wine. You have
taken men shopping and you've paid the bill.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I've bought stuff for them. Yeah, uh huh, Okay, Colin's
taking me shopping and paying the bill. They'd be scared.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I'm just stunned. Why am I not actually stunned? Susan
likes people to dress a certain way, and apparently Susan's
now willing to pay the drice she's gonna dress. Oh
my god. Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Never have I ever jumped out of an airplane?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I have not either, but I'd like to. That's how
I was on my bucket list when I went on
Golden Bachelor. That was one of things I wanted to do,
was jump out of the airplane. Yes, bucket, and I
didn't nor Its solicious for a recap of Golden bats Or.
Kathy never had a one on one date, she never
got a gift, and she never jumped out of an airplane. Okay,
(32:55):
moving on. Never have I ever paid the entire bill
went on a first date with a guy? Oh god,
you're drinking again. Go for it, drinking. You have paid
the entire bill on a first date with a guy,
A freaking lutely. You know why?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
If I knew I was never going to see them again,
it helped me not.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Feel so guilty. So I a bill.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I paid the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Oh my god, all right, I should.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Have been a guy.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I think. I think so, I've got a great guy.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Can't have you ever text said the text?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Ever? I did it?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So I then you can't say it.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
These are things you've never done.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
This is why I hate this game.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
You never have never that's because you've done a lot
of things. All right, I got another one. Never have
I ever snuck into a movie? Sorry, snuck into more
than one movie? Would only pain for one movie.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
In other words, you've done that too, Susan, Go do
the next one.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Wait? Can I just say I would just like to
point out something here. Kathy who gets ripped on the
internet lives a clean I don't swear at the nuns
that I don't know. I don't know that. That's what
I'm saying. I don't do any of this stuff. I
don't do anything bad. And there's miss Susan.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Over here, such a rule follower.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
It's working for me. Fun to bend the rules. Bend
the rules, Susan breaks them in half and then breaks
them in half.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Or have I ever got pulled over for speeding and
actually got a ticket.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I've never been pulled over for speeding, of course not.
I've never had a ticket.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Worry because you don't speed.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Either, right? Wait? Can I tell you a funny story?
Can I? Oh? I do speed? A funny story. When
I was doing my global entry, you know, you have
to go and be interviewed by people before they let
you get your global untery. The guy comes out to
interview me and he goes, are you for real? I said, what?
(35:17):
He goes, you have nothing? He said this, I've never
he said, I've been doing this, you know, interviewing people.
You are the first person you've never had a parking ticket.
I said, I know. He goes, No, we don't get
people like that. I said, I know. Can I my
global entry now, Kathy?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
When we were being screened and everything to be on
the show and the Golden Bacheler, same thing he had
said to me, Oh, there's two things. I actually paid
money online to see what my criminal record was and
it was an outstanding parking ticket.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
You you, I'm sorry it was a dollar you you
researched your.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Criminal back because it said I had two things griminal
and there were both tickets. One I never paid. I
didn't know I had it.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I mean, I got to tell you when my husband,
who did have several speed tickets and in the state
of Texas, I'm just gonna blow blow everyone's mind here
you can pay a lawyer who walks into the court
with a stack of tickets and gets you off the ticket. Yes,
welcome to Welcome to the rough shot, Texas, where laws
are just suggestions. But my husband was driving once and
(36:30):
was speeding and I was panicked because he was going
so fast because he wanted to get to wherever we
were going. I said, I hope you get pulled over.
I'm going to tell the cop to give you a ticket.
I swear to God, Susan I hear, I hear comes down.
He looked at me like, I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You know, And I looked at the cop said would
I tell you about thoughts?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And the cop gave him a ticket? But I probably
got you up. He did, And you know what I
said to him, Oh big deal, you got that lawyer friendly.
You're just paying three hundred bucks and it doesn't go
on your record. Get over yourself, true story, all right?
When else you got there for me?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I don't know, did you ever?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I did do this too, this to the wrong person.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
About that person that I have done, Yes, never have
I ever left a restaurant without paying? You ever done that? No? Oh? Well,
good god. Here, I'm just checking your moral moral compass there.
Never have I ever dated more than one guy at
a time. Oh my god, she's thinking, I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Know, well, like in a relationship.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
No, but oh here meeting looking full the Susan's looking
for the gray aread.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
No, when you're on the dating apps and you see
one one night and the next week you've met somebody else,
that's not really dating.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
No. I don't do two times. So if you've had
more than one date with a guy, you know I have. Hey, Frederic,
listen up, buddy, she's got a guy.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Because we were broken up for well over a year
and we saw each other again. What now When I
was dating Mark, remember for two years and then we
broke up over a year, we didn't talk and then yeah,
we got together again. But I had been No, I
wasn't really dating anybody else.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Let me just say, do you hear? I want everyone
to pay attention. You're hearing Susan going, well, I don't remember,
never have I ever Susan would never have a drink again,
because Susan has done most things in life and I
am proud of you. Girlfriend. You're living the life that
I have never lived.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It's called experience. That's what made me who I am today.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I've had a lot of experiences.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Crochane, experience, Kathy, you were still wet behind the ears.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
You got married and moved to Brazil. I mean, God's
I moved to Scotland. Scotland not even the same continent,
may I.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
But probably about to reach on our podcast with Teresa
and her saying she was a star of the play.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
And where is she coming from?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I don't know, just made me think of it. Scotland, Berlin,
whatever I thought.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I know. I'm surprised to find out she lived in
Berlin when she was first married, because I lived in
Scotland when I was.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
First Have I ever told someone that I loved them
and didn't mean it?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I've done that. Does that mean I have to drink
drink Oka's damn?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Get me?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, you know what these old Reddit fingers, You've never
done that? No, No, you know me.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I fall in love easy.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Oh oh wait a minute, so let me get this right.
I've told guys that I loved him once or twice
when I didn't you tell every guy, you love him
and mean it. Okay, you'll mean it for ten minutes.
Is this when I'm married? No, I was not proud
of my Actually I only did it once and I
felt terrible about it.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You know you were uncomfortable. You wanted him to feel better.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I know, I know, I think you know. I think
I was nervous in the moment like I was. Yeah,
we did it for a while and I wasn't ready
to let him go, but I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Any Have you ever told someone that you are in
love with them and they didn't say it back? Yes,
one time that ikey feeling.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
It was and I will say I am still friends
with that guy today. It was the ickiest feeling on
the mind.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Was like a week before Christmas and night it was
the moment and I said it, and I know he
loved me. I knew he did. And he said thank you,
and I was like, what Kathy it? Thank you everything?
And then New Year's Eve at midnight, he tells me
he loves me. Little did he know he blew it.
(40:56):
I hated him for making me feel like that, and
he said I would have told you that night, but
I wanted to do it at mean I go, you're
fucking weird. Okay, is this.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Story is getting way too convoluted for me? He said
thank you, but he did love you, but he didn't
tell you. Yes, yes, this is why? Wait? Can I
just say to you this is This is the kind
of experiences that I hope our listeners write in. Has
this ever happened to you? Did you ever tell someone
you loved them and not mean it? Did you? Do
(41:28):
you think it's weird that this guy didn't tell Susan Like,
I think that's weird.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Two weeks, two and a half weeks later you counting
the weeks, Kathy, it changed me inside? You don't know,
because you didn't love him anymore. No, I still loved him,
but no, everything was different after that.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Why it was? I really know? With a ball in
left field here.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Can you give me a definition for narcissists?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yes? In my opinion, a narcissist is a person who
only thinks of themselves. Everything there, it's it's ego center.
Everything revolves around them. Implications are only how they feel,
how something reacts to them, how they can make it
best for themselves without any regard to someone else, or
(42:19):
how it affects someone else. That's that for a definition.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
So I don't know. I wonder you were success at
this game or we sucked at it?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Well, I think the conclusion is Susan has done most
everything and lived an incredible life, and Kathy is still
nit one pearl one knit one pearl one. But I
you know what, here's the good news. We are Golden
age is just number. We got plenty of time for
me to try all this stuff out right. It's never
(42:52):
too late, Kathy, It's never too late. Get up off
the sofa and live, That's what I say. All right,
here we go.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
A much text my boyfriend, text my friend to be
rescued mid bad day.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Oh you're still going to play some more this game.
I have done that. I have absolutely done. Have you drink?
And you know what, Susan, Never have I ever had
a boring conversation with you? Never have I ever, But
I'm going to drink to it. All right? This was
really so much fun. Thank you to all of our
(43:28):
listeners for joining in today. We hope you learned a
little bit more about us. I certainly learned a little
bit more about Susan.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Absolutely make sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour.
As we have new episodes coming out every week and
I don't think you want to miss them.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
You don't, uh and never have I ever said this before,
not make sure to submit all of your questions to us.
All you have to do is go to bachelornation dot com,
slash Golden Hour, or dm us on Instagram at Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Happy Hour and listen to The Bachelor Happy Hours Golden
Hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to
your podcast. And thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Until next time, have a good week.
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us. We're so excited to be back. I'm in
sunny Canada, Susan, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's hot and humid here, but we did have a
gorgeous no human weekend here in Philadelphia, and.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
My got the weather in can I just say Texas.
You know they say it's hotter than hell. That is
Texas this time of year. Canada is gorgeous, windows open.
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
It's like San Diego weather. And today we are going
to be answering more of the fan questions. Make sure
you keep them coming and submitting. We love reading them.
Just go to if you forgot Hell, I'm going to
remind you once again Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour
and submit away.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
And please send us everything, your questions, your comments, your updates,
all that. You can also dm us on Instagram at
that's our happy hour.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Absolutely can Okay, So time to get into the episode, Kathy.
We've got to start with this week's episode of Paradise,
the Treasure Chest Challenge. Do tell I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
So here was the thing. We had to decide who
was going to be the hunter and who was going
to be trapped in the and you trapped in the chest.
And you know, Susan, I have claustrophobia. I don't like
it how and not to mention being locked in the
chest when it's one hundred and eight degrees.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I would have never gotten in never.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, let me just say I wanted Keith to change
his will and he wasn't willing, but he did. Keith
is more claustrophobic than I am, so I agreed to
do it. And you did see I had a little
alcohol help in there.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So that's soll well sneaky, a little something. I said, Okay,
that's why she's there. But you said, why send a
man to do a woman's job? Kathy, I think you
got would have actually won had you been out there.
He wasn't. First of all, walkie talkie sucked and he
was I'm just watching him.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
He was struggling and I I love Keith. The truth
is and I said it on the show. You have
to be a good you have to enunciate and speak slowly,
and I did. It was so hot in there, I
cannot tell you.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
He couldn't hear you. I mean he was going I
was like, oh my god, Oh my god, You're not
going to make it.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I know. And when I watched it back and saw
Jess and Spencer, it was like, oh, well, where's the key?
Oh put the key in? Okay, next job. You know,
it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Johonathan speaks up right when you're about to start the
challenge and he said, I have to pee. I'm like, what,
You're never gonna make it.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
You're never could. It was a really fun challenge, but
I will tell you it was at least for Keith
and me. It was a tough challenge. But again, all
the challenges were so much fun. Yes, okay, So.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Whisha and Sean did really well.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
They did good.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Of course Jess and her Man. I just love those two.
How about their yoga day and they're so in love.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
So here's the thing, Alicia, I thought they did really well.
You know, it was fun. It was a fun activity.
I never thought for a minute that I was going
to be buried alive. You know. I had to get
back to you.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
How about when Leah was crying, Like, when I see
Jonathan again, I'm going to teach him. You hold the
girl that's crying. He was so cold I think that's
why you don't have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, no, no, I'm gonna I love Leah and Jonathan,
but I have to defend Jonathan here. Okay, he did
not in my opinion, he did not want to send
out the wrong message.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
She was crying, and when a woman cries, you hold her.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Her. But well he did that rose ceremony. But that's
another story. I just think that he they have a friendship,
and I just think he felt weird about it, But
you do.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I think he was uncomfortable and he should have just
held her and said, it's okay, babe, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Look out, Susan's coming for you. I'm going to teach
you something.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Jonathan, Kathy, when Sean told you to just I thought
he was going to say, zip it. I would have
lost my mind.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
He's like, got it. I mean he's entitled. He's entitled.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Okay, let's talk about politician Shaan, Like what was done.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
About the Parliament of Paradise? I know, Wait, what can
I have some cred here? Did you notice your girl
was not in the middle of this drama? I mean, honestly,
I'm watching this going I'm going oh no, no, no,
stay away. Stay away, but I thought where you were
(04:57):
going I could I didn't understand on the show, and
I didn't understand it watching it back. The guy was
politicking like crazy.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He should run, he should run for.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
His father is a politician. So I'm watching this going
on and I'm like, I'm like, are you kidding me?
But here's the thing I have to say. When did
you hear me say two things? Because Kathy is honest.
When I said that Brian and Parison needed to leave,
(05:31):
I really thought Keith and I were going home. I
really did. That's why I wore the beautiful white dress.
I said. I bought that in case I got engaged. Right,
I'm not getting engaged. I'm going home to wear the
white dress. But here's the thing. Parisa was so unhappy,
like you know, you remember when she goes to his
room in a prior episode and she was so worried
(05:53):
about the relationship and then so you know, I don't
think they were struggling, and I wanted them to go
home and find see if they had love at home
without about us.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Alicia talking with the girls, and she really had her
feelings hurt and she opened up. I think that was
the wisest thing she could have done, and she could
feel better afterwards, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And then and then the other thing that I said,
I you know, when Sean came to talk to Keith
and me and he said, well, we have one of
the strongest relationship with me. I looked him right now,
I said, no, you don't. We'll wait.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Sean and Cat whoa cat showed me a different side
of Cat this week. I help me say, tell me,
First of all, I thought they were friends prior to
as well. She didn't act like she gave two hoots
about his friendship, let me tell you.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And I didn't think it was good at all.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And because the money's involved, it's a whole new game.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Okay, So let me just say my feelings on that. Okay.
I have said from the beginning when they introduced the
money factor, I said, oh boy, here we go. You know,
love for money, which one's gonna win out? And my
my thought on this episode, if I had to, you know,
if I had to give the summation, it would be
(07:14):
it's it's starting to get real, it's and so some
people are there for love, and like Jonathan and Land.
Jonathan comes right out and says it. He's there for
the money, Keith and I had said on and it
was shown. I think last week we're not taking money
out of kid's hands. But you've got this thing now
where the people who are in love? I mean, I'm
(07:37):
sure you heard it when Jess and Spencer told each
other they're falling in love and Jess says, whoaa he's
and Spencer says, oh, it's about you know, there's a
lot of money involved. And what does Jess say? Whoa
whoa whoa. We came here to find love, and that
to me, sunded up the whole episode. You can have
(07:58):
love and you can have my but if you don't
have love with the money, you're in trouble.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
And it just said this would be a great start
for our future with the money, but if they don't,
they were fine. Now let's get down to the Rose ceremony.
First of all, Dale farting. I lost it.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Listen. I love Dale. He can do anything he wants
and I'm still going to support him, don't care love.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Him, and I was quite surprised. More so, not only
did Alicia and Sean they left on their own, but
the girl's reaction.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
I have to interrupt, Okay, you did. I don't think
people picked up on this after they left with integrity
and we can talk about that. Did they really Jesse
Palmer says, well, they were going home anyway. Yes, they
(08:54):
were voted off. They dits. We all okay, well no,
some other people said to me, do you think a
third couple would have gone? It's like, no, they were
the couple.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Go we're going home. But they did that before they
knew that.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
They didn't know. The feeling I got was we know
we're going home, so we're gonna get out of here first.
But when Sean, when when Alicia says, let's leave with it,
we're you know, we're leaving with integrity, and then he
pops off. Sean pops off and says, don't call me
when this one goes sideways.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I didn't have to be cocky.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well that's not right.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And person and Bresa and Brian they left with no ruse,
and then they showed the previews for next week. I
was dying. First of all. When Keith starts, I was like, what,
you're homesick, you want to go home. You're there for
a reason. Now it's a game. Now, okay, it's not
about love. You know, you have a friendship, and to
(09:54):
be perfectly honest with you, because you guys had such
a great friendship, I would have I assume he went
out last week as.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, present tenth we have a great friendship.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yes, well sorry, you have a good friendship. But I
would have thought because of that, yous weren't a real
threat to them. Get it, but you guys are very smart.
They don't know if you're going to try to steal
the money or not. I assume that they would have
let you go instead. The Brian and the Parisa like
(10:26):
that was coming for a while, Well, that's it, Susan.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I think they had all the fun with Brian telling
Bailey that whole thing, right, I think that was I
think Brian was going.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
How about just saying, oh my gosh when he said
something about their future and she goes, I don't know
that I'm going to be ready to move right in
with you, and she went the whole.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Night, she was so in love.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
They were falling in lego. What did you tell say.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Wait a minute, Wait a minute, remember it's a show,
and it's it's a truncated version. You know you don't
have months here to fall in love. So they say,
they're saying they're falling in love. Are you going to
move in with a guy you've known for whatever, a month,
six weeks. I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
No, no, So I think it was just going. I
respect you, that's all it is, Kathy, I do.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
I hope that's all. Yeah. I'm just saying that's a
lot of pressure as a mom or moths. Would you
want your daughter to move in with the guys she
met six weeks ago? I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, No, of course not. But no, I don't think
you're talking about the future. They're saying they've fallen in
love with each other. I think they are the sweetest
couple on the whole show.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm sorry, excuse me.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
You're not a couple.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
We're a friend couple.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Okay, but that's not a couple. You're friends and good friends.
But the show, to me, is about falling in love
right finding your partner.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I'm sorry. This show is about finding love and maybe
finding five hundred thousands.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Yeah, twist in there, didn't they so I'd be really
interesting to see next week.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
I think, well, you saw it next week. They hinted
they gave a teaser about camping.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yes, I boy, I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You know my.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Idea camping, Kathy is no phone in the room.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So I'm just going to tell you I love to camp.
I love I love tent camping. And I think people
would be surprised to hear that. Now you saw the
previous I'm camping in a very expensive silk dress.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
But still, whit's the last time you camped.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Caitlin, my daughter, her husband and I camped right before.
It's been like two years. Because sleeping bags I have, Susan,
I have a tent. I have a sleeping bag. I
have a pad for the sleeping bag. I have cooking utensils.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I bug spray, I love it. I'm telling you it's
like when I come home I need to delouse myself. Yes,
but I love camping.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
You're not afraid. I just creatures out there.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
You don't like it.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I told you my idea of camping is no phone
in the room.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
You mean the hotel room.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
In the room, period of time you want to put me.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Wait, I thought when you said that, I heard tent.
I'm thinking, all right, you can leave your phone outside
the tent. There is nothing as great as unzipping your
tent and looking up at the sky and the.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Stars, walk out the cabin door in the morning and
look at that same sky and be perfectly happy and
poop on a toilet cut out in the woods.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Business Why you and I love each other like people
would not think. They probably would think you would camp
and not me. It's exactly the opposite vaccination, exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
All right, this was really good. Now I think we're
going to have to get into our advice portion of
this episode. I'll start us off.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
With the question of the day.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
When you've done something wrong, how can you decipher whether
coming clean is best for the person you hurt versus
just trying to clear your own conscious?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Oh oh, I have the answer for crazy. Yeah, well
we may disagree on this. Actually, for me, if I've
done something wrong and I think that apologize and first
of all is always right. But if I come clean
(14:53):
and it's going to further hurt you, I'm not coming clean.
I'm gonna come I'm going.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
As best for the person that you hurt versus.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I'm I'm always that's right, I said, I'm always going
to come clean and apologize unless it's right, it's selective
coming clean if it's best for the person. I'm not
there to decide what is best for you. So if
I feel like coming clean is going to further hurt you,
(15:24):
I'm not coming clean. I'm not even but with clear
my conscience. Well I cud, I said what I had
to say. I feel better now, uh uh huh huh,
not me? What about you?
Speaker 2 (15:34):
I would definitely when I admit when I do something wrong,
when people, if somebody tells me, I.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Why I do too?
Speaker 2 (15:41):
But what if telling me but it's already said? You
can't take back what you've said?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Right? No, but if if if you did something, said
something to me, and you've done something wrong and now
now and maybe not to me, maybe you've done something
wrong and you said some about my family or something,
and you and in clearing your conscience and in apologizing,
(16:10):
you dig the hole deeper. Have you ever heard of
that happening? Like stop quit while you're ahead, Like I
get it, you're sorry, but now you're making it worse.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
My conscience always feels better when I admit my fault.
And if I've hurt anybody, I'm sincerely sorry.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yes, so am I. But if clearing your conscience makes
the other person feel worse, like you have to give
them more information, like, oh my god, Susan, I'm glad
you feel better now that you've apologized. Now you've also
just told now you've made me feel worse.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't feel better that I apologized. I feel better
whether it's accepted and things go back to normal, but
I would feel bad the entire time. I don't understand
how whether the question reads when you've done something wrong.
Can you decipher whether coming clean is best for the
person you've hurt or just to clear you. You seem
(17:07):
with always best, the truth will always set you free,
even if people are upset.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
With We're going to handle that one in Stone. I
guess what I'm saying is sometimes when you're not you,
but when one is apologizing and they have to give
more context to understand. You know, I'm sorry, Susan, but
here's what was going on. I'm making it up. You're
going to laugh like I'm sorry I did that, but
(17:32):
I was sleeping with Frederic at the time, And you
know what I'm saying, It's like, sometimes you can add
insult to the injury. So I think sometimes it's a
simple apology sometimes is better, and it's always You're exactly right,
it's always better to be honest. But I think sometimes
you don't need to add. Yeah, all the information could
(17:55):
agree on that. Okay, how about this. Let me give
you an example to help you understand where I'm coming from.
Ok what if someone cheated on someone ten years ago?
They did it one time and then and now you know,
they told their partner, Like, is that worth hurting them
(18:16):
to say that they cheated? You should go to your greed? Oh,
but you just said the truth is I was the
best truth? Will say your break I've done.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
But in a situation like you're saying, ten years ago,
he cheated and you cheated.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You cheated on your partner. Ten years later, you decide
to come clean and tell your partner, would it be
worth hurting them? No? Oh, but the truth set you're afraid.
That's what I'm saying. Sometimes the context makes it worse,
so you don't always come but it might make you
(18:50):
feel better. Your own conscience might feel better.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Oh it's your own guilt. Yes, yes, yes, it wouldn't
benefit that, So.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
That's what I'm saying. So sometimes it's better to keep
your mouth, not your you know what I'm saying. Yes, yes,
I agree. However, if I'm cheating on someone, it's not
gonna be once in ten years. You're not going to
cheat you right off, let's start those fan quests. Let's
we're going to get into these fan of questions. I'm
(19:17):
going to start us off at the first one. This
one is from anonymous. Hi, ladies, I'm in a tough
spot and could really use some help. This past weekend,
I went out with my friends to a club. The
next morning, one of the girls sat me down and
told me I made out with a guy towards the
end of the night and gave him my phone number.
(19:40):
I'm currently in a four month relationship and I'm panicking.
Do I tell him and apologize? My group is split.
Half think I should, the other half think it'll do
more harm than good.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
What do I do? Thanks, ladies? First of all, she
don't remember how you.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
First of all, are you well where I was called?
First of all, she doesn't remember because I'm going to
go with she was drunk, And what do I always say?
Being drunk is never an excuse for bad behavior. So girlfriend, yeah,
drank too much? Now you got a problem.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
See now, it's too many people know, because if you
decide to keep your mouth shut, then somebody else might
tell him. I would try would you do that? I
don't know. Maybe just say, babe, I got so drunk.
I think I kissed somebody. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Well,
first of all, a fourth she doesn't remember doing it.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
So yeah, Well, and like I said, drinking is not
an excuse for bad behavior. But what would you do?
What would you do? I know what I would do.
You would zip it? I wouldn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I wouldn't I tell him the truth? Yeah, like I said, no.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
You just said zip it? Which is it? You can't
tell him?
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But if I didn't remember doing it, I'd have to
tell him. My friends told me I kissed somebody last night,
and I don't remember doing it.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I mean, listen, whether there are two or more in
his name, there's gossip, so he's going to find out.
So you might as well come clean. But I would
come clean because that's who I am. And I would
say I remember doing it. I would say John, I
(21:28):
am so sorry my future guys. John, Is there John
out there who wants me? I would say, John, I'm
so sorry, here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
This is what happened.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I got drunk and there's no excuse for that. I
got drunk and I didn't know. Told this morning when
Susan told me that I made out with a guy,
it's bad favor. And you know what, John, I think
I need to stop drinking because I have no memory
of it. I want to go forward with you. I
hope you will forgive me. And if he says I'm
out of here, you know what you learned really quickly.
(22:04):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I wouldn't drink anymore. I've never been black out drunk.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Have you wait? Have I ever been black eyed drunk?
Maybe once you didn't remember anything? No, but I mean
I don't remember, so maybe you know. I don't drink
to the point of getting drunk because I subscribe. I
take my own advice. You get drunk. There is no excuse.
You cannot say. I cannot say to you, Susan, I'm
(22:29):
so sorry. I got really drunk. What did I h
That's not an excuse. So I don't know if I've
been black eyed drunk. I don't think so. A lot
of people use it. Yeah, well stop using it. That's
my advice.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We got a second question, Susan, I need to know
if you think I'm overreacting. I just found out that
my boyfriend of three years completely lied to me about
how we met. Oh boy, and I feel so weird. Basically,
his best friend slipped up while we were at this
(23:04):
weekend and said, I'm so glad you two are together.
Seeing him be so into you for so long and
not go for it for over a year was agonizing, like,
look at what he would have missed out on. I
was confused because when my boyfriend and I met, we
struck up conversation in the library at our college, and
(23:26):
I have always believed he met me or knew of
me for the first time. That day, after pressing his
best friend for more details, he told me that he
met me at a party freshman year and was crushing
on me from Afar for an entire year before we met.
(23:46):
His best friend apologized profusely and said he assumed I
knew that was the deal. Now I feel really icky
that he lied and was crushing on me from Afar.
I don't know. It makes me feel weird and I
haven't mentioned it to my boyfriend yet. Any ideas and
what to do next? Thanks? Lady, Yes that I have
an idea. Stop that is like a compliment, you idiot.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You know what I'm thinking. I'm reading this going this
girl is under the age of twenty five. I'm like, yeah,
the blankety blank over it?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Whois like me for that long?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
And you finally asked me where can I find a guy?
Speaker 2 (24:28):
God? I mean seriously, this is youth at its best.
All right here, you obviously listen to our podcast. Listen
to me now, thank the guy the best friend for
telling you that, and your heart should just be panning
right now. Who cares?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Wait, I'm sorry, I'm going to a whole different level
where if he told you I didn't care. You're with
the guy for three years, you're happy? What is wrong
with you? What is wrong with youth of today? I'm
sorry for thinking.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
It's not thinking at all. That's a problem, sweetheart. It's
a blessing. It's a blessing. Just think about it. He
has been admiring you for a year and he didn't
have the courage to come up to you for a
whole year.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Blessing, and you're thinking it's weird. What is weird about that? She?
You know what this girl probably thinks it's weird of
if he sends her flowers. Honey, whoever you are, you
need to get over this. You met him makes her
get over it.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
That is a compliment above all.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
I mean, I've seen him into you for so wait
and agonizing. I was confused because when my boyfriend I met,
we struck up a car. You know what was incredible?
He in a backup, sweetheart, not you, sweetheart, sweetheart Anonymous.
I am so sorry that you met this guy in
(25:53):
the library at college, had this great conversation. You were
attracted to each other. You met that day, stars in
the sky. It was like love at first sight. Sucks
to be you get.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
What if that's your biggest problem? You are blessed, young lady.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I mean, I'm sorry that may be out't know where
it came from. This is the strangest question we have
ever had. I love you, and I'm so glad that
you are in love with this guy and have a
boyfriend of three years.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Don't worry how you met brace him for this, embrace.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Think how lucky you are, Kathy.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I mean, we both feel the same way. But what
if what if he studied her in a way and
he knew things about her, and he was trying to
impress her, but he already knew.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
It was almost like a stalk kind of Okay, now
you've just gone from Anonymous enjoy it to creep. I'm
with you, Anonymous.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
If that's the case, that's weird. That And again here
I am and this positive thinker. I would think, Oh,
how sweet he wanted to get to know what I
like so he could Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
But no, no, no, no, no, whoa no. If I'm
going down to your example, if in fact he knew
her favorite flowers and he knew where she went to
a bar, and so all of a sudden he's showing up,
you know, she starts thinking back on the last I
saw or whatever this one. Yeah, now it's stalker ish.
(27:28):
Now it's weird. Now I don't like it. So Anonymous,
if that's the case, I apologize. Maybe it's weird. I
think what you have to do, Anonymous, is reevaluate how
he's treated you, are the things he knew or is
it just it wasn't the happenstance meeting that you thought
it was. The Other thing I will say is if
you met him in freshman year and you don't remember it,
(27:51):
you clearly have too many guys chasing after you, so
you might think about that.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
I still think it was a compliment. But if it
were the other case.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
I can understand that.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But then so she you know, obviously cluing something.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Get over it. Three years. I'm sorry, it's three years.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Something's working. Don't let look at a gift horse in
the map.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, all right, you know what if he if he's
sending you flowers and and he's you know, he watched
you shop for flowers and you bunch of the same
ones ten times, say thank you, Oh thanks for writing
in that. We enjoyed that one.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Alrighty Kat. Today we're gonna play never.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Since his favorite, Never My Ever.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Kathy and I are going to switch off saying things
we've never done. I think I'm finally getting this game.
I swear if the other person has done it, they
put a finger down or drink wine. Right, the first
person with five fingers loses.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
I'll start us off.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Oh this is different.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Okay, I'm just drinking, Susan, you put your fingers down.
I'm just going to be drinking. It's easier, all right,
go ahead, start all right.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
First thing I've never slipped with my boss to get ahead.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I'm not drinking. I have never so no or lied
to get ahead. No, we're not. Okay, we're gonna be
boring at this cat. We're gonna be boring. It's all
get up, all right, here's my first one. Never have
I ever dated a man that one of my friends
dated first?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Oh, I had that one too.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Have you done that?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Have you done it? Hell Susan, we gotta get some drinking.
Your turn.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Never have I ever been on Dancing with the Stars,
but I hope it happens this year.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
We can't drink to that one either, because you haven't.
All right.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Never have I ever disrespected and older or in Catholic
school and none or a priest.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I was scared to death. I've never disrespected well. First
of all, I never went to Catholic school. So I'm
just gonna have a drink because you know, cheers to confession.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I'm drinking. Didn't go to Catholic school. Okay, I can't
say this one because I did. It's my turn, it's
my drink. You can't do the ball. Never have I
ever sent to a spicy selfie? Don't license and drink up?
Uh huh. There she is drinking up. I have. Why
(30:39):
am I not surprised with your boyfriend? I mean I haven't.
I never do with my husband ever.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Okay, never have I ever?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Oh yes I have. Okay, I'll give an easy one.
Never have I ever stolen anything from a store.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
I stole pack sears when I was fourteen years old.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
You know what I just remembered. I stole a pack
of gum once when I was young. Oh god, I
have to take two SIPs now. I forgot and you
just said that.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Okay, I didn't get caught that, Kathy. Never have I
ever farted and blamed it on someone else.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
You just Susan. You're supposed to be saying one, but
I never gone. You just want to drink. Here's one
for you. Never have I ever let a man take
me shopping and then let him pay the bill? Oh god,
(31:54):
are you drinking? No?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
But I take men shopping and I pay the bill.
You no, seriously.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No, Wait, I want to back up, and then I
want you to take two SIPs of wine. You have
taken men shopping and you've paid the bill.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
I've bought stuff for them. Yeah, uh huh, Okay, Colin's
taking me shopping and paying the bill. They'd be scared.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
I'm just stunned. Why am I not actually stunned? Susan
likes people to dress a certain way, and apparently Susan's
now willing to pay the drice she's gonna dress. Oh
my god. Okay.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Never have I ever jumped out of an airplane?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I have not either, but I'd like to. That's how
I was on my bucket list when I went on
Golden Bachelor. That was one of things I wanted to do,
was jump out of the airplane. Yes, bucket, and I
didn't nor Its solicious for a recap of Golden bats Or.
Kathy never had a one on one date, she never
got a gift, and she never jumped out of an airplane. Okay,
(32:55):
moving on. Never have I ever paid the entire bill
went on a first date with a guy? Oh god,
you're drinking again. Go for it, drinking. You have paid
the entire bill on a first date with a guy,
A freaking lutely. You know why?
Speaker 2 (33:15):
If I knew I was never going to see them again,
it helped me not.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Feel so guilty. So I a bill.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I paid the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Oh my god, all right, I should.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Have been a guy.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I think. I think so, I've got a great guy.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Can't have you ever text said the text?
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Ever? I did it?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
So I then you can't say it.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
These are things you've never done.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
This is why I hate this game.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
You never have never that's because you've done a lot
of things. All right, I got another one. Never have
I ever snuck into a movie? Sorry, snuck into more
than one movie? Would only pain for one movie.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
In other words, you've done that too, Susan, Go do
the next one.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Wait? Can I just say I would just like to
point out something here. Kathy who gets ripped on the
internet lives a clean I don't swear at the nuns
that I don't know. I don't know that. That's what
I'm saying. I don't do any of this stuff. I
don't do anything bad. And there's miss Susan.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Over here, such a rule follower.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
It's working for me. Fun to bend the rules. Bend
the rules, Susan breaks them in half and then breaks
them in half.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Or have I ever got pulled over for speeding and
actually got a ticket.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I've never been pulled over for speeding, of course not.
I've never had a ticket.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Worry because you don't speed.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Either, right? Wait? Can I tell you a funny story?
Can I? Oh? I do speed? A funny story. When
I was doing my global entry, you know, you have
to go and be interviewed by people before they let
you get your global untery. The guy comes out to
interview me and he goes, are you for real? I said, what?
(35:17):
He goes, you have nothing? He said this, I've never
he said, I've been doing this, you know, interviewing people.
You are the first person you've never had a parking ticket.
I said, I know. He goes, No, we don't get
people like that. I said, I know. Can I my
global entry now, Kathy?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
When we were being screened and everything to be on
the show and the Golden Bacheler, same thing he had
said to me, Oh, there's two things. I actually paid
money online to see what my criminal record was and
it was an outstanding parking ticket.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
You you, I'm sorry it was a dollar you you
researched your.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Criminal back because it said I had two things griminal
and there were both tickets. One I never paid. I
didn't know I had it.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
I mean, I got to tell you when my husband,
who did have several speed tickets and in the state
of Texas, I'm just gonna blow blow everyone's mind here
you can pay a lawyer who walks into the court
with a stack of tickets and gets you off the ticket. Yes,
welcome to Welcome to the rough shot, Texas, where laws
are just suggestions. But my husband was driving once and
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was speeding and I was panicked because he was going
so fast because he wanted to get to wherever we
were going. I said, I hope you get pulled over.
I'm going to tell the cop to give you a ticket.
I swear to God, Susan I hear, I hear comes down.
He looked at me like, I'm like, I.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
You know, And I looked at the cop said would
I tell you about thoughts?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
And the cop gave him a ticket? But I probably
got you up. He did, And you know what I
said to him, Oh big deal, you got that lawyer friendly.
You're just paying three hundred bucks and it doesn't go
on your record. Get over yourself, true story, all right?
When else you got there for me?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I don't know, did you ever?
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Wait?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I did do this too, this to the wrong person.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
About that person that I have done, Yes, never have
I ever left a restaurant without paying? You ever done that? No? Oh? Well,
good god. Here, I'm just checking your moral moral compass there.
Never have I ever dated more than one guy at
a time. Oh my god, she's thinking, I don't.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
Know, well, like in a relationship.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
No, but oh here meeting looking full the Susan's looking
for the gray aread.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
No, when you're on the dating apps and you see
one one night and the next week you've met somebody else,
that's not really dating.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
No. I don't do two times. So if you've had
more than one date with a guy, you know I have. Hey, Frederic,
listen up, buddy, she's got a guy.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Because we were broken up for well over a year
and we saw each other again. What now When I
was dating Mark, remember for two years and then we
broke up over a year, we didn't talk and then yeah,
we got together again. But I had been No, I
wasn't really dating anybody else.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Let me just say, do you hear? I want everyone
to pay attention. You're hearing Susan going, well, I don't remember,
never have I ever Susan would never have a drink again,
because Susan has done most things in life and I
am proud of you. Girlfriend. You're living the life that
I have never lived.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
It's called experience. That's what made me who I am today.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I've had a lot of experiences.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Crochane, experience, Kathy, you were still wet behind the ears.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
You got married and moved to Brazil. I mean, God's
I moved to Scotland. Scotland not even the same continent,
may I.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
But probably about to reach on our podcast with Teresa
and her saying she was a star of the play.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
And where is she coming from?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I don't know, just made me think of it. Scotland, Berlin,
whatever I thought.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
I know. I'm surprised to find out she lived in
Berlin when she was first married, because I lived in
Scotland when I was.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
First Have I ever told someone that I loved them
and didn't mean it?
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I've done that. Does that mean I have to drink
drink Oka's damn?
Speaker 2 (39:30):
Get me?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, you know what these old Reddit fingers, You've never
done that? No, No, you know me.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I fall in love easy.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Oh oh wait a minute, so let me get this right.
I've told guys that I loved him once or twice
when I didn't you tell every guy, you love him
and mean it. Okay, you'll mean it for ten minutes.
Is this when I'm married? No, I was not proud
of my Actually I only did it once and I
felt terrible about it.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
You know you were uncomfortable. You wanted him to feel better.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I know, I know, I think you know. I think
I was nervous in the moment like I was. Yeah,
we did it for a while and I wasn't ready
to let him go, but I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Any Have you ever told someone that you are in
love with them and they didn't say it back? Yes,
one time that ikey feeling.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
It was and I will say I am still friends
with that guy today. It was the ickiest feeling on
the mind.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Was like a week before Christmas and night it was
the moment and I said it, and I know he
loved me. I knew he did. And he said thank you,
and I was like, what Kathy it? Thank you everything?
And then New Year's Eve at midnight, he tells me
he loves me. Little did he know he blew it.
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I hated him for making me feel like that, and
he said I would have told you that night, but
I wanted to do it at mean I go, you're
fucking weird. Okay, is this.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Story is getting way too convoluted for me? He said
thank you, but he did love you, but he didn't
tell you. Yes, yes, this is why? Wait? Can I
just say to you this is This is the kind
of experiences that I hope our listeners write in. Has
this ever happened to you? Did you ever tell someone
you loved them and not mean it? Did you? Do
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you think it's weird that this guy didn't tell Susan Like,
I think that's weird.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Two weeks, two and a half weeks later you counting
the weeks, Kathy, it changed me inside? You don't know,
because you didn't love him anymore. No, I still loved him,
but no, everything was different after that.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Why it was? I really know? With a ball in
left field here.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Can you give me a definition for narcissists?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yes? In my opinion, a narcissist is a person who
only thinks of themselves. Everything there, it's it's ego center.
Everything revolves around them. Implications are only how they feel,
how something reacts to them, how they can make it
best for themselves without any regard to someone else, or
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how it affects someone else. That's that for a definition.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
So I don't know. I wonder you were success at
this game or we sucked at it?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Well, I think the conclusion is Susan has done most
everything and lived an incredible life, and Kathy is still
nit one pearl one knit one pearl one. But I
you know what, here's the good news. We are Golden
age is just number. We got plenty of time for
me to try all this stuff out right. It's never
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too late, Kathy, It's never too late. Get up off
the sofa and live, That's what I say. All right,
here we go.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
A much text my boyfriend, text my friend to be
rescued mid bad day.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Oh you're still going to play some more this game.
I have done that. I have absolutely done. Have you drink?
And you know what, Susan, Never have I ever had
a boring conversation with you? Never have I ever, But
I'm going to drink to it. All right? This was
really so much fun. Thank you to all of our
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listeners for joining in today. We hope you learned a
little bit more about us. I certainly learned a little
bit more about Susan.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Absolutely make sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour.
As we have new episodes coming out every week and
I don't think you want to miss them.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
You don't, uh and never have I ever said this before,
not make sure to submit all of your questions to us.
All you have to do is go to bachelornation dot com,
slash Golden Hour, or dm us on Instagram at Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Happy Hour and listen to The Bachelor Happy Hours Golden
Hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to
your podcast. And thanks for joining us today.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
Until next time, have a good week.
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Joe Amabile
Susan Noles
Serena Pitt
Kathy Swarts
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