July 11, 2024 • 34 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” we welcome our first guest from Jenn’s season: Thomas N.! We get into who Thomas is, including his journey from heartbreak to “The Bachelorette.” Then, we dive right into all things Night 1. Who was he shocked to see go? What was it like bonding with Jenn over their families’ shared experiences? And, of course, we get a tease from Thomas on what we can expect to see this season!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Battery Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Saringa and we.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Are here today with none other than Thomas and from
Gen season. Thomas just here because they had a great
connection and you're a very likable guy and someone that
really stood out night one. So Thomas, welcome to Batchery
Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Thanks for having me. Guys, I appreciate you all of course.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay, so why don't you just tell us a little
bit about where you're from and what you do for
a living.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
So I'm from Atlanta, just outside the city. I'm a
retirement advisor. It's kind of like a broad title, but
I help people figure out how they can get to
retirement and have their money go for the rest of
their lives. So, whether it's people in their twenties starting
their roth iras or Nancy Sue that's sixty seven and
working with Social Security and her pension, I.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Do a little bit of everything in between.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So wait, is that more of like, are you more
of like a finance guy or is it like more
like what do you want to do with the rest
of your life type of thing?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
More so finance, we do like a lot of wealth
management and financial sales stuff, so I get to work
with people all over the country. That's why you see
this awesome background is because I work from home, so
I can bounce around from time zones to time zones
to help people out.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And where you're from Atlanta?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You said, Yeah, I'm from Atlanta, just outside of the city.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And where do you live? Do you live like in
the d Tucker, Yeah, I live.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So where I'm from where I grew up is in
Gwinnett's and Snowville, a little city a little like thirty
minutes away from the city. And then you got the
main city where everyone knows, like the airport in Atlanta.
I live like right in between, like Shambley, Tucker. It's
like northeast Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You know where where do? Where do we? Uh? Where's
like the cool like the the newer spot with some
of the restaurants and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I have not a single clue.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
If you say it, I'll know it. Buford Highway No, No,
Brookhaven No. You're probably like, it's just going to drive
me nuts. There's a lot of restaurants popping up over there.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And why did you know this?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yes, I mean that's what it was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, like where do you hang out?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Where where do you hang out when you go?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, it's like so that that area is like old
fourth Ward, Virginia Highlands and Men Park. That's like a
pretty like hip and up and coming place right now. Yeah,
so definitely that spot.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Wow, look at you, Joe with your Atlanta knowledge.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I like Atlanta. I've been there. I've I've filmed the
show there for a month and we couldn't leave the house,
but I I was in. I've been to Atlanta. I
want to say I've been to Atlanta five times.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh really, Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
There's always like a short period, but I've I've made
I've made my time worth it. I've gone out a
lot there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I've only been there twice.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I went with let me know next time you guys
come in.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah we will.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Last time we were there actually was with Zach Shallcross,
who was one of the last Bachelors. We filmed a
podcast with him there, so that was fine. We spent
like two days there.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So Thomas, how uh, how did you get on The Bachelor?
Why did you want to do this? Always call on
the show The Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
By the way, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
So it's actually a really funny story. So two years
ago I went through like a pretty bad breakup. I know,
I did like a year to kind of work on
myself and really kind of get my feet under me,
both with my finances. I had just bought in the house,
so I wanted to kind of get my life in order.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
When you say that, when you say a bad breakup
bad bad because of you or bad because of her
or bad, I'm both ends.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I'd probably say it was more so both ends. I
wanted to get married and she didn't. So that's the
part that was the hardest part was being like, hey,
I'm here and her being like, hey, I'm not there.
So that was that was hard for for for both
of us.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I took that.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Time to kind of really just do my own thing,
you know. And my sister she lives, she goes to Emory,
so when she's home for holidays in the summer, she
stays with me. So twenty one year old sister her,
she's like, hey, Thomas, we got to get you back
out there. So what better way than to apply you.
So one night we popped open a bottle of rose
(04:07):
and we just started going after it was that was
last summer.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So yeah, shout out to my little sister Lily.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Wow, Lily, that's so good.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Did you watch any of Joey's season hoping that it
was going to be one of these girls.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I did watch Joey's season. I did all of the
bits coming into it. I think I came into it
pretty open minded. I don't think anyone really had. Everyone
kept telling me what you think is going to happen
is not going to happen. So that's kind of like
the idea that I came into the house thinking. So
I was pretty open minded when I came into it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I feel like that's the best mentality to go into
the show with, is just being open minded, because I
feel like so many people go into it with a
very clear set of expectations or feeling like they know
exactly how filming goes or how the show works, and
it just it's never you just don't know until you know.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yeah, and I felt like I kind of had a
like a leg up, if you will. My brother swam
with Robbie Hayes. They went to college together. I think
he was Jojoe.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I was like Robbie Hayes was like that's a throwback name.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, And so they swam together.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I swam with Robbie's younger brothers, and so when this
came up, I called Robbie and I was like, hey,
what can I expect if he was like nothing, you
don't expect anything to have No, don't go into it
like thinking that you know something, because you're not going
to know it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And so that was probably like the most useful a
bit of advice that I got.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well, that's that's interesting. That is actually very that's good advice.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
That is good advice. Nice job, well, Robbie, so correct
me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Robbie, I believe went really far on JoJo's season of
The Bouchtera and then was on he was yeah his
runner up, right yeah, and then he was on Paradise
I believe as well. So he's done two shows. He's
a good part. And a call and say like, hey,
what should I expect? So the fact that someone who's
done two shows is like, don't expect anything.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But I don't know how he came across on Paradise.
Oh really, yeah, it might have went a little got
a little.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Went a little sideways for Robbie.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, I think so in Paradise.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah. Yeah, So let's talk about you're a competitive swimmer
or you were a competitive swimmer.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, I was a competitive swimmer.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I so all through college I swam, and then I
had the opportunity to get dual citizenship. Both my parents
are from Vietnam, and so the opportunity came up. And
United States swimming is elite, it's very very good. So
where in one event I was fortieth in the country
in the US, I was the second in the country
in Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
So we had the opportunity to get dual citizenship.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I tried to make the Olympics in twenty sixteen and
then I had a partial tear in my left rotator
cuff that I couldn't lift my arm and so I
had to get a couple of quarter zone shots back
to back to back to like try and make it
through and then just barely miss.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So when you swim for Vietnam, how how long are
you over there for?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What does what does it? What does that look like?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Several months?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So yeah, it's the travel day is is more than
a day itself. So when I went over there, it
was like eighteen hours to soul A long layover and
then from Soeul to Hochi Min city was nine hours,
so it was just a brutal travel day. And then
they recommend that you get over there a month before
you compete, so they're thirty days early. The meet's usually
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five to seven days, and then whether or not you
travel to different countries to compete or race or whatever
you have to do in terms of obligations for the federation,
they keep you there longer. So I was there for
three stints for over three months each time.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
How beautiful is Vietnam?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Stunning?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Stunning, It's so awesome, that's what I've heard. Yeah, if
your each cities are the best.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Okay, So my brother's actually going, he's going on vacation.
I think. I think like in the sound, Yeah, where
would you for a tourist, where do you recommend? Like
if you have you're going to be a Vietnam for
seven days? Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Danang is a beach city. It's d A n A
n g. It's a beach city. It is stunning.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's it's also pretty touristy as well, so you could
get a by speaking English there pretty pretty comfortably. But
the restaurants are awesome, it's like seafood. That's a big
place to go because we went to a restaurant where
you watch the boats bring the seafood to the restaurant
and they would cook it right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
So it's it's a it's a super cool spot.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Ho Chi Min City is always a classic to go
into like the big city spots, but if you want
good food, go to the vendors just as much as
the four star and five star restaurants.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
They're they're they're awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I want to go so bad, but we have an
issue with you.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I know, I have a net allergy, a really severe
net allergy, So I'm okay with peanuts and almonds, but
I'm like deathly allergic to like cashews, stashios, pinets, all those,
And it just gets challenging, not all with going places
that use a lot of meds language, but then the
language bear on top of it. Like I would love
to just go and eat all the food of the
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different vendors, but it just gets a little nerve racking.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I I would risk.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
It, but then get nervous. Yeah, two epy beds on
stand by a lot of gunna drill, but even and
then like if something happens in a different country anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
There's just a lot of elements that but who knows.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
But that's why we'll make it the avention, and that's why,
you know, as much as you want to kind of
have the most authentic experience, sometimes the truer spots are
a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Definitely, definitely find that balance of both exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, so let's cut to night one. You step out
of the limo. What's going through your head? How is
the conversation with Jen?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
First I could like feel my heartbeat like in my throat,
and I'm thinking, I'm thinking, don't trip the first thing
my first step because I'm putting my jacket together, I'm
looking at her and I'm like big deep breath.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Walk up to her. And then she made it pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
She I'm a huge dad joke guy and puns all day.
So the fact that she was like picking up what
I was putting down it felt good. So it started
to get easier after play, like the first fifteen or
thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yeah, she is very like warm and open energy, but
you can tell she's just kind of like embracing the conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So I feel like that makes it a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Would you say jan is your type?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah? I think so. She's, like you said, bubbly, warm, outgoing.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I think I would consider myself an introvert, So I
think that that balance is needed a lot of times
in a relationship, one more outgoing than the other. And
I think that that's probably more My type is someone
that's a little bit more free flowing of a spirit
than I am.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You're not really given introvert.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I believe you say that about every introvert, Yes, because
I feel like you have a perception that introverts are
like very very quiet and very very shy. But you know,
like I am, I have a great personality, but you
probably feel more comfortable like and enjoy your lone time.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Right if I had my choice of going out to
the club or sitting at home cuddling with my dog,
watching through a network and at home all day?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Okay, all right, so you you get into the house,
who are you vibing with? As far as the guys
and anyone rubbing you the wrong way? What's that? How's
that going?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Were you you were early out of the you were
pretty early out of the limma.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Right, I think I was the fifth or sixth guy
into the house, so I was early.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
That was me too.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
I think I was like the sixth person in, and
I was so happy about it because it's absolutely a
positive being the first one and I feel like it's
a little jarring, but going in it's like a small
group of people.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You get to kind of meet people as are coming.
Do you agree?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
One thousand percent?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And another thing that I thought of was as well
is when everyone comes into the room and they sit down,
and then there obviously aren't enough seats for twenty five
guys to be there, so the next group, like twenty one,
twenty three, there's everyone sitting down, they're just sitting there,
and the like.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah there's like two people standings comes in.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, but it was it was good. The first group
of guys that were in there. I clicked it right
away with Thomas. We both you know, like that Spider
Man meme where you're like pointing at each other. We're
like Thomas Thomas and so him and I we we
connected pretty quickly. Sam m and I connected pretty quickly.
He's from South Carolina, so we both kind of hit
off on that that southern roots a little bit and
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then Aaron herb him. He was probably be another guy.
My little brother serves in the military, and so I
know Aaron does it as well. So that's kind of
something that we kind of touched on as well.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
There's another Marcus was a military guy as well, right.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, he was an army ranger. Yeah, he does the
exact same thing my my little brother went to school.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
For any of the guys kind of like rubbing you
the wrong way or or any of the guys like
kind of making waves within the house, not really.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I kind of kept to myself, like, like I said,
kind of an introvert. So the conversations, it was interesting,
started off as like several groups of two or three,
everyone off to their side, and then slowly as the
night progressed, there was conversations with ten people, eleven people,
twelve people, like the whole house having those conversations. There
are definitely some big personalities, like Hakeem walking in with
(13:28):
forty balloons attached to him. That's that's something you know,
that's not my style. But to each their own. But
there were definitely some big personalities in the house.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
For sure. Did the guy really streak completely naked or
did he about the.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
War on I someone someone said that I wasn't I
wasn't there for that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I Oh, someone told me no, I didn't get to
see that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, okay, it was a good thing. Yeah, probably. Okay,
So then you get you get someone on one time
with Jen, like where was that? Where was that within
the night and how did that conversation go?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It was kind of how I wanted to go, you know,
I wanted to kind of hit that seventy five percent mark.
So but most people will hit get early.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I wanted to be one of three quarters to the
end spot.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
So I was kind of towards the end, I got
to have a pretty intimate conversation. It kind of got
a little bit deeper than either of us I think
wanted it to get to. We both can just kind
of hit on our family traditions, our family history. Both
of our mothers are immigrants. Both of our mothers basically
gave up their life so that we could have a
(14:36):
shot at one and that was something that both of
us kind of we we got to that point in
the conversation, We're like, Wow, this is this is more
an intense first date, right, So I think that's kind
of where we got to on the conversation just kind
of led so effortlessly there do you think do.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You think if if it was a first date, you
would have gotten there?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Probably not. I think that there are things that.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I think that are things that are important to me
that I value so so much, and my mom is
definitely one of them. But I think sometimes you know,
when you're getting to know someone you know, you start
off as like the surface level stuff of like you know,
what do you like to do? What are some of
your hobbies? But I think that coming into it, I
know I knew Jen's story, you know, watching Joey's season
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and watching how that's.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Really important to her.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It's important to me too, so I felt like it
was easy for us to kind of get there that quickly.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I would imagine too, because you are the only person
that shares that experience with her, she probably gravitated towards
you know, what you have in common? And because you
guys have similar backgrounds and upbringings, it was probably just
a natural direction for the conversation to go of like
she's talking all these guys like trying to figure out,
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you know, what do I have in common?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Where was a very easy one for you guys to
connect on.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yeah, definitely, And it helps being the only other Vietnamese
person in the house, so we both kind of I
hit her with a little Vietnamese pickup line and she
did a little giggle at it. I just told her
that she looked very beautiful in Vietnamese, and she was, oh, yeah,
yeh yeah, was impressed with Hopefully she was impressed on
my Vietnamese.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah. So after that conversation in your head, where do
you are you like get like seventy five percent chance
I'm going to get a rose.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I wish it was seventy five percent. I was still
I was still fifty to fifty. You know that that feeling,
that feeling that I that I get to, you know
when when you're standing there and like you can feel
your heart pounding.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, I was. I was probably fifty fifty.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
There's just so many guys in that in the house,
you know, so many good looking guys. Everyone's successful, everyone's
peacocking uh in the house. So you know, I wanted
to kind of keep it fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Did you think though, that you maybe had a chance
at the first impression Rose.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yes, I did think I had a chance with the
first impression Rose just because of how intense the conversation was.
But at the same time, I was like, maybe it
was too intense that she was like, whoa, this is
something that I didn't want to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, well that's.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Kind of where my head was with bof of that.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Was there a guy in the house that was overly
confident that he thought maybe he was going to get
the first impression Rose?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I don't think so. I think everyone.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Kind of everyone was kind of flexing their muscles in
a subtle way, you know, just kind of everyone in
that house show came up as pretty confident, but I
don't think anyone came off as super cocky right away.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Okay, so Sam m ended up getting the first impression
Rose was that were people surprised by it? Where people
were like, oh, yeah, he's great, Like I could see it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
What was the response amongst the group?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
There were a couple people There are a couple of
people that said that it was just because you grabbed
her first. You know, some people wanted to say Sam,
she did her toast and Sam grabbed her. And that's
what stood out to Jen was someone to make an
effort early and Sam was the first person that grabbed her.
So that's what some of the people were thinking. As
I've gotten to know Sam, you know, especially here in
the first the first night, it was he carries a
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lot of the same values that I carry, you know,
he carries that same passion that I carry, and so
I get it. So if I think that I could
have gotten the first impression Rose, he definitely could have
as well, just because of the things that I see
in him.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Right, that makes sense, That does make sense. I feel like.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I feel like the way that you are describing me,
it of like, yeah, I had a really good conversation
with her and we share similar values, so I could
understand kind of maybe the alignment is usually the thought
process of someone who has like a good, easy connection
right out of the gate, and I feel like people
that are usually grasping it like oh, well he pulled
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her first. Is maybe an inclination of like, oh, maybe
the connection's not there yet with it?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah you can, you can.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Maybe those people were not there after the first night
and the ones that we're saying that, so, yeah, it
definitely makes sense.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Was there anyone that you were shocked that went home
night one?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, definitely. So Ricky was was one of the guys
that a lot louder than most of the other guys,
you know, super confident. You know, he kind of walked
the walk and talked to talk. He kind of everyone
liked him, you know. He was a guy that I
was drawn to as well. A lot of the guys
really were drawn to him, and so to see him
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go night one was definitely shocking. And then I'd probably
say Brett was the other one. He is awesome, you know,
just a big band, big personality to match it, and
so I was shocked with him as well.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
He did the little Truth or Dare.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
We were shocked by him too. We were really really
surprised he went home night one.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, and so his his little what is that Dare
show You're hidden talent? He clears the room out and
then drops it down into a full on split in
his suit.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Was that was one of the ones where I was like, damn,
I've got this guy's got Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
It was yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
It was like it was like a montage of what
was happening at the Truth or there. And I think
we literally just saw everyone like him drop the split
in his pan, Like I think I split my parents.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, he was awesome, he was Saw was shocked that
he went home as well.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
So how was your first rose ceremony everything you thought
it was going to be or a much longer experience
than you picture.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
So getting ready for the rose ceremony was nerve wracking.
We all just stood there in silence, basically like waiting
for it to get started. And then I'll never forget
the feeling of pre rose and after rows of of
kind of how my body was feeling, I could feel
like one hundred and eighty bpms of like my heart pounding,
and then when I got my rose, it was from
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one eighty to eighty and two seconds, So it felt
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah, that makes that's actually very true, the tension that
you hold in your body at those things and they're
so long and you're so tired. Yeah, it's a crucial
part of the journey.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So then Jim drops she drops it at the end
of this episode that you guys are going to Australia.
What's the mood?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Then that had to be awesome, amazing, amazing. It's it's
like bucket list stuff, right.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Like, Yeah, you don't really ever think, hey, I'm gonna
go to Australia just for fun. So the fact that
we all got to go on night one was was awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Everyone.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I think not a single guy had ever been to
Australia in the cast, so it was it was.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Cool the way that is so cool.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, it was. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That was cool. What was the because it was you
guys are not at the mansion, what was the house? When?
What was the house? Like, uh, it was in the
front of the front the front of it looked like breath.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Takes the house like beautiful.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, it was. It was stunning.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
It was huge, and there was a lot of the
outside back yard space was probably like the coolest spot.
It was just a little cold, but they had like
a couple of bonfires set up for us to kind
of all go out there. The backyard was I think
was the best part because it was like two x
of what the front yard was, you know, when we
walk out a limit, it was like breathtaking in the
backyard as well. A couple a couple of the pavilions
(22:17):
with like bonfires for us to kind of get set
up at.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
It was awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Cool. So you mentioned you were in a serious relationship
that ended kind of badly. But since the end of
that relationship, how long has it been from today or
from night one?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Was the timeline?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Timeline?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, between night one and the relationship ending.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, okay, then death then it come across No.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
No, yeah, I was thinking two years or a little
bit under two years.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, So then how within that two years were you
dating or what was dating life?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Like? No? Not really.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I did a year where I was not really dating,
just working and kind of doing my thing here, hanging
out with friends. Like I said, everyone in my life,
everyone that's important to me is married with kids.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So my two thirty two okay.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, so my two of my best friends, I've known
them since I was twelve, so I've watched them and
their families grow. And so when I get the opportunity,
it's uncle Thomas here, Uncle Thomas there. Both my brothers
are married, well actually a younger brother is married. My
older brother gets married, so we're going out to South America.
So both of them are in long term relationships. My
(23:38):
best friends are in long term relationships. So when I'm
I'm bored, I just bounce around to be Uncle Thomas.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yes. See, single life, single life is way more difficult
when all your friends are in relationships one thousand percent.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, yeah, So what was kind of your mentality then, Like,
going on this show, you were out of this yeriously
hadn't been dating obviously that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
What mindset did you go in with?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I think a piece of advice that I got from
my mom was really helpful.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You didn't say Robbie again.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I was like, no, no, no, no, no, this is this
is what good it was? It was It got me,
It got me there.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
She said, people that you love and people that you
care about are going to watch you, and the person
that you end up with, you don't want them to
think that you're someone that you're not. So if you
put on this facade for however long you put it on,
and then you get to the real world and she's like,
this is not you. Or if people watch you and
they're like, hey, that's not you, that's going to be
a harder thing to fix in the real world. And
(24:42):
so I came into it thinking, hey, I'm just going
to be unapologetically authentic, stand on what I believe in,
and put myself out there to be vulnerable and show
Jen who I really am. As a person, and if
she picks it up, that's awesome, and if she doesn't,
then hopefully there's someone else that's out there for me.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's great advice.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
That was always my My biggest fear of potentially meeting
someone on the show was leaving the show and being.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Like, this is a different person.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
That's not who I thought I was dating.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And that I'm.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Gonna wake up one day. Joe's gonna drop the facade.
It's gonna be horrible. Yeah, it's a lot harder to
correct down the line than it is to just be
upfront and true to yourself despite the fact that you're
being vulnerable for the world to see.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Did you prepare yourself or even think about the fact that,
you know, going on a show like The Bachelorette is
dating in an unconventional way, and you are potentially going
to fall in love with somebody who's dating multiple men
at the same time and catching feelings for multiple people.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Yeah, I mean, this is a once in a lifetime
opportunity and it's a spot where no one's ever been
in this spot before. But like before, I if if
we were meant to be and if at the end
of the road, you know she picks me, then I'd
hope that you know, our connection was stronger than anyone else's,
(26:13):
and that she's not just playing me or playing any
other person, and that like what they say, that you're
here for the right reasons, and so I was there
for the right reasons.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So yeah, yeah, that's I don't know. I don't know. No, No,
I believe you.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I believe you.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I believe you're fucking lying, Thomas. I just I know,
like myself, especially when I went on the show, I
want to say, I I feel the same way you do.
I just don't know how I would have handled it.
I do think. I do think it is tough.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Absolutely, it only gets harder as it goes on, too and.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Like like being the best true that ends up with
the lead and then watching it back, there's just no
way that's easy.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
No, there's yeah, one hundred percent not.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
I mean I never had to do that, thankfully, But
it's definitely bittersweet being like, oh, I've ended up with
this person and we're so happy and in love and
now we get to watch our love story along with
his love story with twenty six other way.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, totally, totally. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
What was your take?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
On the drama between Brian and Jeremy. You know, obviously,
Jeremy came out in this very fancy car, him and
Jenn are having time talking in it, and then we
see Brian come out of the house with the keys
to the car.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Essentially kicks Jeremy out of his own car.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well what wait, was it Jeremy's car?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Yeah, so Joe and I were debating, was do you
know if it was you know, a prop car or
if it was actually Jeremy's car that he drives at home.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So I wasn't there for that either, so I couldn't
tell you about that.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
But I've heard the drama when they both came into
the house, but I didn't get to see him take
the keys or go out.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
In his car.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
So what did what did you overhear? What did we overhear?
I wasn't there. What did you overhear?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
A lot of people their personalities are completely opposite. I
think Jeremy is a really really quiet, you know, kind
of behind the scenes guy, and and Brian is definitely not.
So that I think it kind of made sense of
how those two kind of interacted. It was, Yeah, Brian,
Brian's is a big personality as well.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
So he was one of the he was one of
the louder.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Also, I just pulled up Jeremy's details and he's from
New York, So there's no way that they shipped his actual.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Cart al shot.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, probably not. Probably not.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I'm gonna say definitely not.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Probably not, But it's fun to think it was.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
It's fun to think it was his real car.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
So would you say that the house skewed more towards
Jeremy's side than Brian's side in that interaction?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I definitely think so. Jeremy was.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Jeremy's always been super quiet, you know, just kind of calm, cool,
collected behind the scenes, and he didn't really.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
That's funny, kind of a show.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
His limit entrance is it like that?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
His limo interest is more like hey Jesse. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah. As I got to know him, it was kind
of the opposite. So that's interesting.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, but that happens sometimes sometimes people go a little
all out for the entrance and it doesn't always totally
align with who they.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Are at their Poor Thomas, We're going to play a
quick game, a little rapid fire, get to know you
a little better, all right. You want to do it.
You want me to do it, I'll do it. You
haven't done rapid Fire in a while.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
No, I've really been getting out of it. Joe's been
handling rapid Fire. It's very easy.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
All fun, chill questions starting off with what is your
go to comfort movie or show?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Comfort movie? I'm gonna nerd out a little bit go
Lord of the Rings series.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I haven't seen Lord of the Rings, which is crazy
because I feel like I've seen all the other like major,
I love Lord of the Rings. Yeah, if you could
have any superpower, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Flying? But I'm scared of heights. But yeah, flying just
to go.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Probably why because you wouldn't be as scared if you
could fly?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
What's your go to karaoke song?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Sorry by Justin Bieber?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
A classic? What's your favorite ice cream flavor?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Cookie?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Dough cats or dogs?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Dogs? Come on?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
What's your dream vacation destination?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Mm hmm, somewhere on the beach or bora.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
What's the best concert you've ever been to?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Oh, I'm gonna say hang out like a concert at
outdoor venue on the beach, music all around.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Pretty sweet spot. What is it called Hangout Festival? Where
is where is this golf Shores, Alabama.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Okay, it's like a music festival.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, it's just like it's literally two polar opposite stages
like on the beach.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
That's really cool. What's your favorite way to spend a
day off?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Work out, play fetch with the dogs in the back,
and then cook myself from meal?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Wow? You you're just You're just the whole Mark movie town.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I love cooking.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I love I love I love cooking. I'll tell you
guys a quick little cliff notes. Both my parents were
fostered when they came to the United States, and their
parents are Italian and Irish, So I grew up like
in an Italian household where my my no one have
taught us like all these recipes and we were growing up.
So we're a huge food family growing up.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Wow. Like, what's your go to? What's your go to
dish that you cook?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Carbonara? That's my go to?
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Really Okay, yeah, that's a good way, all right. What
is the most adventurous thing you've ever done?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Cliff diving?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
You know, we went out to a place in Italy
they took us out to this year. Cliff you climb
up like a couple of dozens of feet and then
jump off of it.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That's so cool. I've done cliff jumping before. But there
is a point that you pass where you're like, okay, like,
if I do something wrong, I'm going to really be
in a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Of pay Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
And you're when your hands and feet like wiggle for
just a little bit too long. That's when you know
you're a little bit too high.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, exactly. Okay. What is one food that you can't stand?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Tomatoes?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Really?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, like like on burgers. I can't do no cold
tomatoes on sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Will you do tomato sauce?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Will you do? Catch up?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Just just no cold tomatoes on like a cold tomato
on a burger.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'm disgusting.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, but I don't. I don't totally disagree with that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It depends kind of like tomatoes on my hot dog.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Yeah, that's weird to me. What musician would you love
to see live?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Chris stapleson.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Favorite season.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Summer? Definitely?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
And if you could describe this season of the Bachelor
in one word, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Spicy?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Spicy?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I like that, all right, Thomas, thank you so much
for coming on. We can't wait to watch the rest
of you on this season. And to all our listeners,
thank you guys for tuning in.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
And if you need any retirement advice, you know who
to reach out to Thomas and he will prepare you
for your future financially.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Don't forget to subscribe.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
We will have more recaps of Gen season and exclusive
interviews from all of your favorite men coming up. Thanks
for listening, Bye bye,
Hey, everyone, welcome back to Battery Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm Joe and I'm Saringa and we.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Are here today with none other than Thomas and from
Gen season. Thomas just here because they had a great
connection and you're a very likable guy and someone that
really stood out night one. So Thomas, welcome to Batchery
Happy Hour.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Thanks for having me. Guys, I appreciate you all of course.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay, so why don't you just tell us a little
bit about where you're from and what you do for
a living.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
So I'm from Atlanta, just outside the city. I'm a
retirement advisor. It's kind of like a broad title, but
I help people figure out how they can get to
retirement and have their money go for the rest of
their lives. So, whether it's people in their twenties starting
their roth iras or Nancy Sue that's sixty seven and
working with Social Security and her pension, I.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Do a little bit of everything in between.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
So wait, is that more of like, are you more
of like a finance guy or is it like more
like what do you want to do with the rest
of your life type of thing?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
More so finance, we do like a lot of wealth
management and financial sales stuff, so I get to work
with people all over the country. That's why you see
this awesome background is because I work from home, so
I can bounce around from time zones to time zones
to help people out.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
And where you're from Atlanta?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
You said, Yeah, I'm from Atlanta, just outside of the city.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And where do you live? Do you live like in
the d Tucker, Yeah, I live.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
So where I'm from where I grew up is in
Gwinnett's and Snowville, a little city a little like thirty
minutes away from the city. And then you got the
main city where everyone knows, like the airport in Atlanta.
I live like right in between, like Shambley, Tucker. It's
like northeast Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You know where where do? Where do we? Uh? Where's
like the cool like the the newer spot with some
of the restaurants and stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I have not a single clue.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
If you say it, I'll know it. Buford Highway No, No,
Brookhaven No. You're probably like, it's just going to drive
me nuts. There's a lot of restaurants popping up over there.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
And why did you know this?
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yes, I mean that's what it was gonna be.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, like where do you hang out?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Where where do you hang out when you go?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Yeah, it's like so that that area is like old
fourth Ward, Virginia Highlands and Men Park. That's like a
pretty like hip and up and coming place right now. Yeah,
so definitely that spot.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Wow, look at you, Joe with your Atlanta knowledge.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I like Atlanta. I've been there. I've I've filmed the
show there for a month and we couldn't leave the house,
but I I was in. I've been to Atlanta. I
want to say I've been to Atlanta five times.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh really, Yeah, I've been.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
There's always like a short period, but I've I've made
I've made my time worth it. I've gone out a
lot there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I've only been there twice.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I went with let me know next time you guys
come in.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah we will.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Last time we were there actually was with Zach Shallcross,
who was one of the last Bachelors. We filmed a
podcast with him there, so that was fine. We spent
like two days there.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
So Thomas, how uh, how did you get on The Bachelor?
Why did you want to do this? Always call on
the show The Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
By the way, yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
So it's actually a really funny story. So two years
ago I went through like a pretty bad breakup. I know,
I did like a year to kind of work on
myself and really kind of get my feet under me,
both with my finances. I had just bought in the house,
so I wanted to kind of get my life in order.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
When you say that, when you say a bad breakup
bad bad because of you or bad because of her
or bad, I'm both ends.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
I'd probably say it was more so both ends. I
wanted to get married and she didn't. So that's the
part that was the hardest part was being like, hey,
I'm here and her being like, hey, I'm not there.
So that was that was hard for for for both
of us.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
I took that.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Time to kind of really just do my own thing,
you know. And my sister she lives, she goes to Emory,
so when she's home for holidays in the summer, she
stays with me. So twenty one year old sister her,
she's like, hey, Thomas, we got to get you back
out there. So what better way than to apply you.
So one night we popped open a bottle of rose
(04:07):
and we just started going after it was that was
last summer.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
So yeah, shout out to my little sister Lily.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Wow, Lily, that's so good.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Did you watch any of Joey's season hoping that it
was going to be one of these girls.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
I did watch Joey's season. I did all of the
bits coming into it. I think I came into it
pretty open minded. I don't think anyone really had. Everyone
kept telling me what you think is going to happen
is not going to happen. So that's kind of like
the idea that I came into the house thinking. So
I was pretty open minded when I came into it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I feel like that's the best mentality to go into
the show with, is just being open minded, because I
feel like so many people go into it with a
very clear set of expectations or feeling like they know
exactly how filming goes or how the show works, and
it just it's never you just don't know until you know.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
Yeah, and I felt like I kind of had a
like a leg up, if you will. My brother swam
with Robbie Hayes. They went to college together. I think
he was Jojoe.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
I was like Robbie Hayes was like that's a throwback name.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, And so they swam together.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I swam with Robbie's younger brothers, and so when this
came up, I called Robbie and I was like, hey,
what can I expect if he was like nothing, you
don't expect anything to have No, don't go into it
like thinking that you know something, because you're not going
to know it.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
And so that was probably like the most useful a
bit of advice that I got.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Well, that's that's interesting. That is actually very that's good advice.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
That is good advice. Nice job, well, Robbie, so correct
me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
Robbie, I believe went really far on JoJo's season of
The Bouchtera and then was on he was yeah his
runner up, right yeah, and then he was on Paradise
I believe as well. So he's done two shows. He's
a good part. And a call and say like, hey,
what should I expect? So the fact that someone who's
done two shows is like, don't expect anything.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But I don't know how he came across on Paradise.
Oh really, yeah, it might have went a little got
a little.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Went a little sideways for Robbie.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, I think so in Paradise.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah. Yeah, So let's talk about you're a competitive swimmer
or you were a competitive swimmer.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Yeah, I was a competitive swimmer.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
I so all through college I swam, and then I
had the opportunity to get dual citizenship. Both my parents
are from Vietnam, and so the opportunity came up. And
United States swimming is elite, it's very very good. So
where in one event I was fortieth in the country
in the US, I was the second in the country
in Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
So we had the opportunity to get dual citizenship.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I tried to make the Olympics in twenty sixteen and
then I had a partial tear in my left rotator
cuff that I couldn't lift my arm and so I
had to get a couple of quarter zone shots back
to back to back to like try and make it
through and then just barely miss.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
So when you swim for Vietnam, how how long are
you over there for?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Like?
Speaker 1 (07:07):
What does what does it? What does that look like?
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Several months?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So yeah, it's the travel day is is more than
a day itself. So when I went over there, it
was like eighteen hours to soul A long layover and
then from Soeul to Hochi Min city was nine hours,
so it was just a brutal travel day. And then
they recommend that you get over there a month before
you compete, so they're thirty days early. The meet's usually
(07:32):
five to seven days, and then whether or not you
travel to different countries to compete or race or whatever
you have to do in terms of obligations for the federation,
they keep you there longer. So I was there for
three stints for over three months each time.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
How beautiful is Vietnam?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Stunning?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Stunning, It's so awesome, that's what I've heard. Yeah, if
your each cities are the best.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Okay, So my brother's actually going, he's going on vacation.
I think. I think like in the sound, Yeah, where
would you for a tourist, where do you recommend? Like
if you have you're going to be a Vietnam for
seven days? Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Danang is a beach city. It's d A n A
n g. It's a beach city. It is stunning.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
It's it's also pretty touristy as well, so you could
get a by speaking English there pretty pretty comfortably. But
the restaurants are awesome, it's like seafood. That's a big
place to go because we went to a restaurant where
you watch the boats bring the seafood to the restaurant
and they would cook it right in front of you.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
So it's it's a it's a super cool spot.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Ho Chi Min City is always a classic to go
into like the big city spots, but if you want
good food, go to the vendors just as much as
the four star and five star restaurants.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
They're they're they're awesome.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I want to go so bad, but we have an
issue with you.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I know, I have a net allergy, a really severe
net allergy, So I'm okay with peanuts and almonds, but
I'm like deathly allergic to like cashews, stashios, pinets, all those,
And it just gets challenging, not all with going places
that use a lot of meds language, but then the
language bear on top of it. Like I would love
to just go and eat all the food of the
(09:07):
different vendors, but it just gets a little nerve racking.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I I would risk.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
It, but then get nervous. Yeah, two epy beds on
stand by a lot of gunna drill, but even and
then like if something happens in a different country anyway.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
There's just a lot of elements that but who knows.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
But that's why we'll make it the avention, and that's why,
you know, as much as you want to kind of
have the most authentic experience, sometimes the truer spots are
a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Definitely, definitely find that balance of both exactly.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, so let's cut to night one. You step out
of the limo. What's going through your head? How is
the conversation with Jen?
Speaker 4 (09:57):
First I could like feel my heartbeat like in my throat,
and I'm thinking, I'm thinking, don't trip the first thing
my first step because I'm putting my jacket together, I'm
looking at her and I'm like big deep breath.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Walk up to her. And then she made it pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
She I'm a huge dad joke guy and puns all day.
So the fact that she was like picking up what
I was putting down it felt good. So it started
to get easier after play, like the first fifteen or
thirty seconds.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Yeah, she is very like warm and open energy, but
you can tell she's just kind of like embracing the conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So I feel like that makes it a lot easier.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Would you say jan is your type?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah? I think so. She's, like you said, bubbly, warm, outgoing.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I think I would consider myself an introvert, So I
think that that balance is needed a lot of times
in a relationship, one more outgoing than the other. And
I think that that's probably more My type is someone
that's a little bit more free flowing of a spirit
than I am.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
You're not really given introvert.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
I believe you say that about every introvert, Yes, because
I feel like you have a perception that introverts are
like very very quiet and very very shy. But you know,
like I am, I have a great personality, but you
probably feel more comfortable like and enjoy your lone time.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Right if I had my choice of going out to
the club or sitting at home cuddling with my dog,
watching through a network and at home all day?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Okay, all right, so you you get into the house,
who are you vibing with? As far as the guys
and anyone rubbing you the wrong way? What's that? How's
that going?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Were you you were early out of the you were
pretty early out of the limma.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Right, I think I was the fifth or sixth guy
into the house, so I was early.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
That was me too.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
I think I was like the sixth person in, and
I was so happy about it because it's absolutely a
positive being the first one and I feel like it's
a little jarring, but going in it's like a small
group of people.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
You get to kind of meet people as are coming.
Do you agree?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
One thousand percent?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And another thing that I thought of was as well
is when everyone comes into the room and they sit down,
and then there obviously aren't enough seats for twenty five
guys to be there, so the next group, like twenty one,
twenty three, there's everyone sitting down, they're just sitting there,
and the like.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Yeah there's like two people standings comes in.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, but it was it was good. The first group
of guys that were in there. I clicked it right
away with Thomas. We both you know, like that Spider
Man meme where you're like pointing at each other. We're
like Thomas Thomas and so him and I we we
connected pretty quickly. Sam m and I connected pretty quickly.
He's from South Carolina, so we both kind of hit
off on that that southern roots a little bit and
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then Aaron herb him. He was probably be another guy.
My little brother serves in the military, and so I
know Aaron does it as well. So that's kind of
something that we kind of touched on as well.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
There's another Marcus was a military guy as well, right.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, he was an army ranger. Yeah, he does the
exact same thing my my little brother went to school.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
For any of the guys kind of like rubbing you
the wrong way or or any of the guys like
kind of making waves within the house, not really.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I kind of kept to myself, like, like I said,
kind of an introvert. So the conversations, it was interesting,
started off as like several groups of two or three,
everyone off to their side, and then slowly as the
night progressed, there was conversations with ten people, eleven people,
twelve people, like the whole house having those conversations. There
are definitely some big personalities, like Hakeem walking in with
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forty balloons attached to him. That's that's something you know,
that's not my style. But to each their own. But
there were definitely some big personalities in the house.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
For sure. Did the guy really streak completely naked or
did he about the.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
War on I someone someone said that I wasn't I
wasn't there for that.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I Oh, someone told me no, I didn't get to
see that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, okay, it was a good thing. Yeah, probably. Okay,
So then you get you get someone on one time
with Jen, like where was that? Where was that within
the night and how did that conversation go?
Speaker 4 (14:04):
It was kind of how I wanted to go, you know,
I wanted to kind of hit that seventy five percent mark.
So but most people will hit get early.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
I wanted to be one of three quarters to the
end spot.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
So I was kind of towards the end, I got
to have a pretty intimate conversation. It kind of got
a little bit deeper than either of us I think
wanted it to get to. We both can just kind
of hit on our family traditions, our family history. Both
of our mothers are immigrants. Both of our mothers basically
gave up their life so that we could have a
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shot at one and that was something that both of
us kind of we we got to that point in
the conversation, We're like, Wow, this is this is more
an intense first date, right, So I think that's kind
of where we got to on the conversation just kind
of led so effortlessly there do you think do.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
You think if if it was a first date, you
would have gotten there?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Probably not. I think that there are things that.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I think that are things that are important to me
that I value so so much, and my mom is
definitely one of them. But I think sometimes you know,
when you're getting to know someone you know, you start
off as like the surface level stuff of like you know,
what do you like to do? What are some of
your hobbies? But I think that coming into it, I
know I knew Jen's story, you know, watching Joey's season
(15:30):
and watching how that's.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Really important to her.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
It's important to me too, so I felt like it
was easy for us to kind of get there that quickly.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
I would imagine too, because you are the only person
that shares that experience with her, she probably gravitated towards
you know, what you have in common? And because you
guys have similar backgrounds and upbringings, it was probably just
a natural direction for the conversation to go of like
she's talking all these guys like trying to figure out,
(15:58):
you know, what do I have in common?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Where was a very easy one for you guys to
connect on.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yeah, definitely, And it helps being the only other Vietnamese
person in the house, so we both kind of I
hit her with a little Vietnamese pickup line and she
did a little giggle at it. I just told her
that she looked very beautiful in Vietnamese, and she was, oh, yeah,
yeh yeah, was impressed with Hopefully she was impressed on
my Vietnamese.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah. So after that conversation in your head, where do
you are you like get like seventy five percent chance
I'm going to get a rose.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
I wish it was seventy five percent. I was still
I was still fifty to fifty. You know that that feeling,
that feeling that I that I get to, you know
when when you're standing there and like you can feel
your heart pounding.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah, I was. I was probably fifty fifty.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
There's just so many guys in that in the house,
you know, so many good looking guys. Everyone's successful, everyone's
peacocking uh in the house. So you know, I wanted
to kind of keep it fifty to fifty.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Did you think though, that you maybe had a chance
at the first impression Rose.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yes, I did think I had a chance with the
first impression Rose just because of how intense the conversation was.
But at the same time, I was like, maybe it
was too intense that she was like, whoa, this is
something that I didn't want to happen.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah, well that's.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Kind of where my head was with bof of that.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Was there a guy in the house that was overly
confident that he thought maybe he was going to get
the first impression Rose?
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I don't think so. I think everyone.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Kind of everyone was kind of flexing their muscles in
a subtle way, you know, just kind of everyone in
that house show came up as pretty confident, but I
don't think anyone came off as super cocky right away.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Okay, so Sam m ended up getting the first impression
Rose was that were people surprised by it? Where people
were like, oh, yeah, he's great, Like I could see it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
What was the response amongst the group?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
There were a couple people There are a couple of
people that said that it was just because you grabbed
her first. You know, some people wanted to say Sam,
she did her toast and Sam grabbed her. And that's
what stood out to Jen was someone to make an
effort early and Sam was the first person that grabbed her.
So that's what some of the people were thinking. As
I've gotten to know Sam, you know, especially here in
the first the first night, it was he carries a
(18:16):
lot of the same values that I carry, you know,
he carries that same passion that I carry, and so
I get it. So if I think that I could
have gotten the first impression Rose, he definitely could have
as well, just because of the things that I see
in him.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Right, that makes sense, That does make sense. I feel like.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I feel like the way that you are describing me,
it of like, yeah, I had a really good conversation
with her and we share similar values, so I could
understand kind of maybe the alignment is usually the thought
process of someone who has like a good, easy connection
right out of the gate, and I feel like people
that are usually grasping it like oh, well he pulled
(18:52):
her first. Is maybe an inclination of like, oh, maybe
the connection's not there yet with it?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, yeah you can, you can.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Maybe those people were not there after the first night
and the ones that we're saying that, so, yeah, it
definitely makes sense.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Was there anyone that you were shocked that went home
night one?
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, definitely. So Ricky was was one of the guys
that a lot louder than most of the other guys,
you know, super confident. You know, he kind of walked
the walk and talked to talk. He kind of everyone
liked him, you know. He was a guy that I
was drawn to as well. A lot of the guys
really were drawn to him, and so to see him
(19:32):
go night one was definitely shocking. And then I'd probably
say Brett was the other one. He is awesome, you know,
just a big band, big personality to match it, and
so I was shocked with him as well.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
He did the little Truth or Dare.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
We were shocked by him too. We were really really
surprised he went home night one.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, and so his his little what is that Dare
show You're hidden talent? He clears the room out and
then drops it down into a full on split in
his suit.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Was that was one of the ones where I was like, damn,
I've got this guy's got Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
It was yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
It was like it was like a montage of what
was happening at the Truth or there. And I think
we literally just saw everyone like him drop the split
in his pan, Like I think I split my parents.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Yeah, he was awesome, he was Saw was shocked that
he went home as well.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
So how was your first rose ceremony everything you thought
it was going to be or a much longer experience
than you picture.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
So getting ready for the rose ceremony was nerve wracking.
We all just stood there in silence, basically like waiting
for it to get started. And then I'll never forget
the feeling of pre rose and after rows of of
kind of how my body was feeling, I could feel
like one hundred and eighty bpms of like my heart pounding,
and then when I got my rose, it was from
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one eighty to eighty and two seconds, So it felt
pretty good.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Yeah, that makes that's actually very true, the tension that
you hold in your body at those things and they're
so long and you're so tired. Yeah, it's a crucial
part of the journey.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So then Jim drops she drops it at the end
of this episode that you guys are going to Australia.
What's the mood?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Then that had to be awesome, amazing, amazing. It's it's
like bucket list stuff, right.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Like, Yeah, you don't really ever think, hey, I'm gonna
go to Australia just for fun. So the fact that
we all got to go on night one was was awesome.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Everyone.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
I think not a single guy had ever been to
Australia in the cast, so it was it was.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Cool the way that is so cool.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Yeah, it was. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
That was cool. What was the because it was you
guys are not at the mansion, what was the house? When?
What was the house? Like, uh, it was in the
front of the front the front of it looked like breath.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Takes the house like beautiful.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, it was. It was stunning.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
It was huge, and there was a lot of the
outside back yard space was probably like the coolest spot.
It was just a little cold, but they had like
a couple of bonfires set up for us to kind
of all go out there. The backyard was I think
was the best part because it was like two x
of what the front yard was, you know, when we
walk out a limit, it was like breathtaking in the
backyard as well. A couple a couple of the pavilions
(22:17):
with like bonfires for us to kind of get set
up at.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
It was awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Cool. So you mentioned you were in a serious relationship
that ended kind of badly. But since the end of
that relationship, how long has it been from today or
from night one?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
Was the timeline?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Timeline?
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, between night one and the relationship ending.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, okay, then death then it come across No.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
No, yeah, I was thinking two years or a little
bit under two years.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Okay, So then how within that two years were you
dating or what was dating life?
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Like? No? Not really.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
I did a year where I was not really dating,
just working and kind of doing my thing here, hanging
out with friends. Like I said, everyone in my life,
everyone that's important to me is married with kids.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
So my two thirty two okay.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, so my two of my best friends, I've known
them since I was twelve, so I've watched them and
their families grow. And so when I get the opportunity,
it's uncle Thomas here, Uncle Thomas there. Both my brothers
are married, well actually a younger brother is married. My
older brother gets married, so we're going out to South America.
So both of them are in long term relationships. My
(23:38):
best friends are in long term relationships. So when I'm
I'm bored, I just bounce around to be Uncle Thomas.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yes. See, single life, single life is way more difficult
when all your friends are in relationships one thousand percent.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, yeah, So what was kind of your mentality then, Like,
going on this show, you were out of this yeriously
hadn't been dating obviously that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
What mindset did you go in with?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I think a piece of advice that I got from
my mom was really helpful.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
You didn't say Robbie again.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I was like, no, no, no, no, no, this is this
is what good it was? It was It got me,
It got me there.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
She said, people that you love and people that you
care about are going to watch you, and the person
that you end up with, you don't want them to
think that you're someone that you're not. So if you
put on this facade for however long you put it on,
and then you get to the real world and she's like,
this is not you. Or if people watch you and
they're like, hey, that's not you, that's going to be
a harder thing to fix in the real world. And
(24:42):
so I came into it thinking, hey, I'm just going
to be unapologetically authentic, stand on what I believe in,
and put myself out there to be vulnerable and show
Jen who I really am. As a person, and if
she picks it up, that's awesome, and if she doesn't,
then hopefully there's someone else that's out there for me.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That's great advice.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
That was always my My biggest fear of potentially meeting
someone on the show was leaving the show and being.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Like, this is a different person.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
That's not who I thought I was dating.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
And that I'm.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Gonna wake up one day. Joe's gonna drop the facade.
It's gonna be horrible. Yeah, it's a lot harder to
correct down the line than it is to just be
upfront and true to yourself despite the fact that you're
being vulnerable for the world to see.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Did you prepare yourself or even think about the fact that,
you know, going on a show like The Bachelorette is
dating in an unconventional way, and you are potentially going
to fall in love with somebody who's dating multiple men
at the same time and catching feelings for multiple people.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Yeah, I mean, this is a once in a lifetime
opportunity and it's a spot where no one's ever been
in this spot before. But like before, I if if
we were meant to be and if at the end
of the road, you know she picks me, then I'd
hope that you know, our connection was stronger than anyone else's,
(26:13):
and that she's not just playing me or playing any
other person, and that like what they say, that you're
here for the right reasons, and so I was there
for the right reasons.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So yeah, yeah, that's I don't know. I don't know. No, No,
I believe you.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I believe you.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I believe you're fucking lying, Thomas. I just I know,
like myself, especially when I went on the show, I
want to say, I I feel the same way you do.
I just don't know how I would have handled it.
I do think. I do think it is tough.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Absolutely, it only gets harder as it goes on, too and.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Like like being the best true that ends up with
the lead and then watching it back, there's just no
way that's easy.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
No, there's yeah, one hundred percent not.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
I mean I never had to do that, thankfully, But
it's definitely bittersweet being like, oh, I've ended up with
this person and we're so happy and in love and
now we get to watch our love story along with
his love story with twenty six other way.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Yeah, totally, totally. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
What was your take?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
On the drama between Brian and Jeremy. You know, obviously,
Jeremy came out in this very fancy car, him and
Jenn are having time talking in it, and then we
see Brian come out of the house with the keys
to the car.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Essentially kicks Jeremy out of his own car.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Well what wait, was it Jeremy's car?
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Yeah, so Joe and I were debating, was do you
know if it was you know, a prop car or
if it was actually Jeremy's car that he drives at home.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
So I wasn't there for that either, so I couldn't
tell you about that.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
But I've heard the drama when they both came into
the house, but I didn't get to see him take
the keys or go out.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
In his car.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
So what did what did you overhear? What did we overhear?
I wasn't there. What did you overhear?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
A lot of people their personalities are completely opposite. I
think Jeremy is a really really quiet, you know, kind
of behind the scenes guy, and and Brian is definitely not.
So that I think it kind of made sense of
how those two kind of interacted. It was, Yeah, Brian,
Brian's is a big personality as well.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
So he was one of the he was one of
the louder.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Also, I just pulled up Jeremy's details and he's from
New York, So there's no way that they shipped his actual.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Cart al shot.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, probably not. Probably not.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I'm gonna say definitely not.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Probably not, But it's fun to think it was.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
It's fun to think it was his real car.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
So would you say that the house skewed more towards
Jeremy's side than Brian's side in that interaction?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I definitely think so. Jeremy was.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Jeremy's always been super quiet, you know, just kind of calm, cool,
collected behind the scenes, and he didn't really.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
That's funny, kind of a show.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
His limit entrance is it like that?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
His limo interest is more like hey Jesse. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:06):
Yeah. As I got to know him, it was kind
of the opposite. So that's interesting.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Yeah, but that happens sometimes sometimes people go a little
all out for the entrance and it doesn't always totally
align with who they.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Are at their Poor Thomas, We're going to play a
quick game, a little rapid fire, get to know you
a little better, all right. You want to do it.
You want me to do it, I'll do it. You
haven't done rapid Fire in a while.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
No, I've really been getting out of it. Joe's been
handling rapid Fire. It's very easy.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
All fun, chill questions starting off with what is your
go to comfort movie or show?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Comfort movie? I'm gonna nerd out a little bit go
Lord of the Rings series.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I haven't seen Lord of the Rings, which is crazy
because I feel like I've seen all the other like major,
I love Lord of the Rings. Yeah, if you could
have any superpower, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Flying? But I'm scared of heights. But yeah, flying just
to go.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Probably why because you wouldn't be as scared if you
could fly?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
What's your go to karaoke song?
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Sorry by Justin Bieber?
Speaker 2 (30:16):
A classic? What's your favorite ice cream flavor?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Cookie?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Dough cats or dogs?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Dogs? Come on?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
What's your dream vacation destination?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Mm hmm, somewhere on the beach or bora.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
What's the best concert you've ever been to?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Oh, I'm gonna say hang out like a concert at
outdoor venue on the beach, music all around.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Pretty sweet spot. What is it called Hangout Festival? Where
is where is this golf Shores, Alabama.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Okay, it's like a music festival.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Yeah, it's just like it's literally two polar opposite stages
like on the beach.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
That's really cool. What's your favorite way to spend a
day off?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Work out, play fetch with the dogs in the back,
and then cook myself from meal?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Wow? You you're just You're just the whole Mark movie town.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I love cooking.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I love I love I love cooking. I'll tell you
guys a quick little cliff notes. Both my parents were
fostered when they came to the United States, and their
parents are Italian and Irish, So I grew up like
in an Italian household where my my no one have
taught us like all these recipes and we were growing up.
So we're a huge food family growing up.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Wow. Like, what's your go to? What's your go to
dish that you cook?
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Carbonara? That's my go to?
Speaker 5 (31:44):
Really Okay, yeah, that's a good way, all right. What
is the most adventurous thing you've ever done?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Cliff diving?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
You know, we went out to a place in Italy
they took us out to this year. Cliff you climb
up like a couple of dozens of feet and then
jump off of it.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So it's pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
That's so cool. I've done cliff jumping before. But there
is a point that you pass where you're like, okay, like,
if I do something wrong, I'm going to really be
in a lot.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Of pay Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
And you're when your hands and feet like wiggle for
just a little bit too long. That's when you know
you're a little bit too high.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, exactly. Okay. What is one food that you can't stand?
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Tomatoes?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Really?
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, like like on burgers. I can't do no cold
tomatoes on sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Will you do tomato sauce?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Will you do? Catch up?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Just just no cold tomatoes on like a cold tomato
on a burger.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'm disgusting.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Yeah, but I don't. I don't totally disagree with that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
It depends kind of like tomatoes on my hot dog.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Yeah, that's weird to me. What musician would you love
to see live?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Chris stapleson.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Favorite season.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Summer? Definitely?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
And if you could describe this season of the Bachelor
in one word, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Spicy?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Spicy?
Speaker 1 (33:21):
I like that, all right, Thomas, thank you so much
for coming on. We can't wait to watch the rest
of you on this season. And to all our listeners,
thank you guys for tuning in.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
And if you need any retirement advice, you know who
to reach out to Thomas and he will prepare you
for your future financially.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Don't forget to subscribe.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
We will have more recaps of Gen season and exclusive
interviews from all of your favorite men coming up. Thanks
for listening, Bye bye,
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