TikTok Star Elyse Myers Joins Bachelor Nation

This week on “Bachelor Happy Hour,” it’s a TikTok takeover! Our hosts are joined by their favorite TikTokker and new best friend Elyse Myers as they break down all the drama from this week’s episode of “The Bachelor” and so much more. 

In her conversation with Becca and Serena, Elyse discusses how deep her love of “The Bachelor” goes, how she got started on TikTok, and how much work goes into her incredible “Bachelor” recaps. Plus, she gives us a follow-up on that viral Taco Bell date and reveals who her “Bachelor” hall pass is.  

Then, in her Bachelor Fashion Breakdown, Serena reveals her favorite looks from this week’s episode, and in a fun game, Elyse reveals how she would handle different “Bachelor” scenarios if she were ever on the show.  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's a Boucher happy hour? Listeners, It was another wild
week here on the Bouchel and we of course have
so much to talk about from last night's episode. But
with that being said, I'm hoping from here on note
the crazy is done. Yes, thanks have definitely taken a
turn for the serious and the romantic. And Becca, I

(00:22):
am so excited because today we have one of my
favorite Bachelor recappers and Tiktoker's Alie Myers here to break
it all down. Oh gosh, I just got the chills.
And you said that because she is one of my
all time favorite people. She is a new dear friend
and just she's an absolute delight. So I cannot wait

(00:45):
to have her under share her with all of you listeners.
But in the meantime, we of course have to quickly
break down last night's episode because a lot happened. So
started off on a high note. So you're gonna give
me your favorite fashion moment. Alrighty, let's get into the
fabulous fashion this episode. So I'm going to start off

(01:06):
with the day. Look. I first want to give a
shout out to Coats. We saw some great Coats in
this episode. We've we are in Vienna. It's a little
bit on the cooler side. We're seeing some spring of
fall temperature fashion and I'm loving all of the coats,
but my day look has to go to Gavy. This

(01:26):
may be one of my all time favorite looks of
this season. I was absolutely obsessed with it. She wore
a chocolate brown leather pant, a short little heel, and
a brown kind of corseted sleeveless top on the group date,
and she had gold jewelry. Her hair was pinned up

(01:47):
with a little bit down. I mean it was twelve
out of ten chic. I was obsessed with it. Moving
in to the night look, I'm gonna have to give
this one to Rachel. Very classic, simple, full, elegant, sexy,
all of the above. She's wearing just a black slip dress.
If you watch me on The Bachelor, you know that
I love a good slip dress. They are comfy and fashionable,

(02:10):
my favorite combination. So she's going to take the cake
on that one. And then last, but not least, for
the row ceremony gown, I'm gonna give it to Serene
for this is for the second row ceremony, because we
saw two in this episode. She wore a gorgeous green gown.
It was sparkly. I think this kind of teal dark

(02:30):
green tones is really her color. I think she looks
so beautiful in it, and then obviously I would be
it would be a mess if I didn't shut out
Susie's gorgeous yes scown. I was actually going to ask
you how you felt about that gown and just everything
she'd tried on it in general, because I mean that

(02:53):
red gown was a stunner, stunt art beautiful. I was.
I was so justus We've seen a lot of fashion
dates they pretty much do in every season, but this
one was ultra special, just being in Vienna, getting to
meet with the designer of all of these gowns. I
think my favorite was she wore she tried on a
high neck floral gown and it was very multi colored

(03:16):
and it just looked like a piece of art. That
whole date was beautiful. I guess that's the perfect segue
into this recap, because that was one of the points
I wanted to touch on, was that whole date was
just studying, especially when she met the designer. They went
into this gorgeous gallery. It kind of felt like a
museum if you will, And there was just all of

(03:37):
these gowns lined up and I was like, this is
most every girl's dream, Like it was beyond beautiful. And
I do have to say, like those fashion pampering dates
always breed success because if you go back in history,
the people who are picked on those dates usually go far.
For instance, I was picked on our season for that

(03:58):
one went pretty far, you know, I believe just a little.
I believe Brian Abasolo on Rachel's season, they she did
like a pampering, fun, spoiling date for him. He obviously won,
and then correct me if I'm wrong, But didn't Rachel
on matt season get that date as well? Yes, So
Rachel got the shopping date about midway through our season,

(04:20):
and obviously they are together and happy. So yeah, there's
success with the shopping dates. See a pattern. It's you know,
of course, like whoever gets it so lucky because you
get pampered, you get all of these incredible things. But
if it's all, you know, in line with what we've
seen in history, you also get the person at the end.
So we'll see. I like I said at the beginning

(04:41):
of this entire season, I have high hopes for Susie.
I feel like she's I mean, she's obviously going to hometowns,
but I think she's going to go far. So got
my eye on that one. You have a good connection,
you can see it. Definitely, Definitely another, I have a
couple points to pick out. I want, Well, first, I'm
going to have you take it away because I feel
like I might be raging on certain things. So given

(05:04):
us some of your high points of this episode. Okay,
I'm trying to take it back, because so much happened
in this episode. I mean, we saw the Rose ceremony. Oh,
I guess we started off this episode. Actually, let's take
it all the way back to the beginning with Sarah
coming back from her one on one day, and then
a lot of this episode revolved around Sarah in general.

(05:24):
I mean we basically saw the start and the end
of the Sarah drama all in one episode, which I
don't know why we couldn't have had that go down
with Cheney dragged her drama out for a half season
and then packed Sarah's moment into an hour and a half.
Good point, I'm surprised at how quickly that happened, I'm sure,

(05:45):
and I mean from what we saw from everyone else
talking to Clean about Sarah, I think it had been
brewing for a while for us, Like you said, it
seemed like it was just packed into an hour and
a half. It was interesting though, because I think at
the start of the entire season, no one would have
pegged Sarah four. I mean this quote unquote villain if
you will, But it seems like towards the end she

(06:05):
really rubbed a lot of the girls the wrong way.
And it was interesting because the way that she approached
the women and especially Marrow when coming back from that
second one on one was so interesting. And I think
that was the beginning of the end because you really

(06:26):
started to see her confident, well over confidence slash cockiness.
I want to talk about the group date really quick,
because again, we had another therapy session. I feel like
we've already had one this season. I know I've given
my opinions on these group dates, these types of group
dates before, and I'm just not a fan, and I'm like,

(06:50):
why couldn't claim to have just had these conversations with
the women without a therapist present? Like we didn't need
to do this people, right? Yeah? I mean, I will
say I liked this style of therapy dates significantly better
than the Truth Circle because at least this was slightly
more intimate. It felt like a mediated conversation between two

(07:11):
people in a relationship versus like, let's all forcefully share
our deepest, darkest traumas with each other. We just met,
So it felt a little less uncomfortable for me to
watch as a viewer. But yeah, I mean the therapy dates. Wait,
can we just I know I'm totally jumping here, but
my brain just went from like Sarah thanking the therapist

(07:34):
for being present, to like her crying. Then at the
end of the episode, when she was having the conversation
with Clayton, he basically was like, I think your fake
crying and I don't believe you. I was actually so
shocked that he finally called somebody out. I was like,
there's no way he's ever going to say something like this,
And he's like, I think you're being fake. I don't

(07:55):
believe those tears. I was like, hell, yeah, this is
what we want of Clayton. Like, no, I know it's
said somebody's expense, and it obviously I'm sure sucked for Sarah,
but I'm so glad he finally got to the point
where it's like we actually saw some emotion and feeling.
Before I felt like he's always so buttoned up. He's
afraid to say certain things. He's afraid to really ask
the right a sort of direct questions. So I'm proud.

(08:19):
I'm proud that he called her out. I mean, I
think it caught Sarah very much so off guard. I
do not think she was expecting that, just from everything
she was saying, what the women were saying. But I
have to give props to Clayton for that moment. Yes,
it was such a good moment. I mean, we've seen

(08:40):
Sarah cry multiple times. I feel like we know what
it looks like when she's genuinely upset and crying. There
was not a single tear coming out of her eye.
I mean I was looking at her crying, quote unquote crying,
and I was like, I don't see any actual tears
on emotions, and then mina Clayton said, I feel like

(09:00):
you're just trying to make yourself cry. She's snapped right
out of it. And then he was like, yeah, I
don't believe you. And then even at the car, he
was like, I don't believe you. Which this episode more
than any other episode. I was like, Clayton is the Bachelor,
Like he's woken up, he's realized what role he's in,
and he's finally kind of taking the situation into his

(09:21):
own hands. I was so grateful to watch that. Yeah,
I want more of that, Clayton. If you can give
us more, please and thank you. Yeah, it was interesting.
I had a point I wanted to say about it.
Was just so disappointed with Sarah. I really liked her,
and I just yeah, I was disappointed. Well, this is
what I want to say. I'm going to use now

(09:42):
her words against her, but it seemed like a last
ditch effort, you know, And that's exactly what she said
to Mara. Yeah, it's she's gone. Well. I mean I
think when she's sitting there being like I have a
maze using relationships with the girls in the house, like
I have best friends here. Meanwhile, the three other women

(10:04):
are saying to Clayton the exact same story of like
this is what's gone down, and this is how we felt.
It really just doesn't add up, Like if I'm sitting there,
like I would feel the same way. Big, I don't
believe you. I wish that we maybe would have seen
more of what Sarah was actually saying to all of
the women there was. You know, we've seen her say like,

(10:25):
I'm really confident in my relationship, in my connection with Clayton.
But that's all. Like I wish we could have seen more,
because it does seem like it was extreme if multiple
women are coming saying the same thing. But again, like
we only have so much to air, and of course,
like a lot of the shine drama took up everything,
all right, Well, next week will be a big week.
It's definitely a turning point week when he goes to

(10:45):
hometowns and meet meets four families. So I can't wait
to see what happens. But in the meantime, I'm just
I'm so fregetting excited. Right now we have our TikTok
takeover because we have to bring on our guest a Lease.
She is not only a TikTok sensation, a web developer,
she's an incredible singer and songwriter and she just added

(11:06):
motherhood to her resume. She has the cutest family, the
sweetest husband, and she is just an absolute gem of
a human. So I can't wait to share her with
our listeners. I think it's time Serena to bring our girl,
Elise Myers on to Bachelor Happy Hour for all of
our listeners. Ever since Beckham mett Elise, she has not

(11:27):
stopped talking about her. She is truly her number one fan.
So Alice, welcome podcast. Thank you. That was truly perfect timing.
I'm gonna try really hard to not pass out and
fian girl because that would be really inappropriate for being
on your podcast. So I'm going to just drink my
water and do my best. But I can't have me
pass up because wait, hold on, I have a surprise

(11:48):
for you, Elise. Oh my gosh. I was blue with
envy when she told me you were coming on the
podcast today. I've never wanted to be host more. Look
at I say, Hi, Oh my gosh, I'm so excited
to have you. Thomas will probably come back on before
you head out, but I love it. Um Oh my gosh, Elise.

(12:11):
Serena as you were happy on just saying how much
I fandgirl over you since we met. Elise, I have
to say, like, sometimes you just meet people in life
and you just connect and you know you're just gonna
be friends for a lifetime. And I feel like that
is how Thomas and I felt about both you and
your incredible husband Jonas. Ain't cute little baby August, like
you three are just such wonderful humans. You're just like

(12:35):
you brought so much joy to the weekend that we
spent together and so ever since, and I was like,
we got to get a Lisa on. We have to
have Alisa and I have to share with our listeners.
So joke, Elise. I have heard about you every single
week that we record this podcast since the day you
guys have met, and Becca has made me it's so
excited to me you so we were so happy to
have you here today. I am so excited. And I

(12:57):
will tell you right now, I like did not think
Beck that we would meet the way that we did.
I thought that, like, um, when you like walked onto
the premise of our location in California, I you walked
in obviously like I literally almost lost my mind. And
Jonas was like, at least just like take a few
deep breaths. And I was like, it's all good. I'm
gonna ruin dinner and you're not even gonna be there
to help like fail me out. Can you guys share

(13:20):
how you met and where you met in this whole story. Yes,
take it away away. So we were doing this thing
in Ohi Valley for a brand deal, and me and
Thomas were both hired to be like filming content over
in like um this like cool camper area. And Thomas
was on the Zoom call leading up to this like weekend,

(13:44):
and he was silent the whole time, and all of
a sudden, right in like the last ten minutes, he
asked this question, is little tiny square pops up on
my screen and it's Thomas's face, And I mute myself
and I screamed to the other room. I was like,
it's Tom and I see's like bachelor Thomas, and I
was like yes. And so I was like, well, obviously
Beca is not going to be there Tooma, It's just
gonna be Thomas. Bega has like all these important, like

(14:06):
celebrity things to do, She's not going to be there
in l Hi. So it's okay. I'm like, I'm just
excited to meet Thomas, like literally everybody. I can't wait.
So then we get there and then Thomas and Becca
roll up and I see Thomas. I'm like, oh, he's
just is so he's so tall and so cool, Like
I can't feel like it's no I mean, my husband's
gonna have to all it. Then Beca gets out and
I was like, okay, I'm gonna lose my mind. So

(14:29):
then we get to dinner and like, I know way
too much about you, Becca. Obviously the whole world knows
way too much about you. Like you, I know more
about you than you know about you. At this point,
You're like, it aren't even true. Yeah, and so and
so you're at dinner and I realize, like, I know
you're a name, but like people probably don't introduce themselves
like asking your name right, Like people just like probably
walk up to you and like they know you, so
they don't think to be like, what's your name. So

(14:51):
we're sitting at dinner and I'm like, I haven't introduced
myself to be My name's Elise. And then I was like,
we're going to be best friends. So oh yeah. The
moment I knew we were be friends is so we
sit down to this like lovely catered dinner. We were
handed champagne off of this lovely tray. Once we get
in a favorite back, I was like, this is service
and who we sit down, like we all go to

(15:13):
her seats and at least just starts chugging her champagne.
She's like, I just had a flight. This was the
first time I flew with my one year old. It
was crazy blah blah blah, Like you're going into like
how stressful. I can only imagine how stressful it was
to fly with a one year old on the first
flight ever for him, and you chug your wine and
I was like, Oh, I'm gonna be friends with this girl.

(15:33):
And then I asked for another one because I was like,
I don't know if they're like doing a fancy toast,
So I was like, can I have another glass of champagne?
And we didn't, So I just chugged, getting worse than
chugging your drink. And then someone asking to do a
toast and you're like, well, I'm going to be that
I forgot with the empty glass. Yeah, definitely, I'm so
glad that's not what happened. So I got to try
a second glass, and oh my gosh. But then I

(15:54):
have to say so I had like posted videos of
us that first night of dinner and we had this
like beautiful rice bull with like this pastry and pop
pop pie. Yeah, and and Thomas wanted at least to
do the honors, so she like kind of, you know,
kind of like the crumber, let you like crack it
open and start digging in. And so I got a
video of a Lease cracking it open, and I don't

(16:16):
even know you said like, oh, this is a good
vintage or something, and I posted on Instagram and the
next day I woke up and like all of my
friends in the Batchel world, like especially Tia Booth, everyone
was like, we're so jealous. And at first I thought
Tia was saying she was jealous because because of the food,

(16:36):
like how good the foot and she's like, well, yeah,
that looks good too, but like I'm more jealous that
you're hanging out with a Lease and everything. So I
had to tell her that. But it was just we
started off on such a good high note. We went there,
and then that was just keep going. Well, so first off,
let's started off, how have you been. You have the
most adorable family, to like, just catch us up on

(16:56):
you and life, me and life. We're good. And we
got back and then we just were in Kansas and
so that was like another one of August first like
road trips, so that was fun. We spoke at a
university there, which like not when I went to I did,
never graduated college, so I'm just trying to sit here
and be like everybody stay in school. I didn't, and
I am successful, but that doesn't always happen. And so

(17:19):
that was fun and just kind of waking up and
making videos at four like I usually do, and yeah,
being in conversations I have no business being in but
somehow I am. And it's just you know, it's amazing.
Where do you guys live now? We live in Omaha, Nebraska, Okay,
but hopefully we're converting them to southern California. Yes it's not. Yeah,

(17:41):
it's I mean, I'm originally from California, so I am
super excited to kind of just like be able to
be there so often. And we're going to be spending
a month in California in April, so I'm that's my
goal to just be like Sea Jonas it's so cool,
or here like my family's here, you're kind of love
it here. Yeah. Well, I'll be on tour in April.
But if you don't see Thomas when you're here, I'm

(18:03):
not going to hear the end of it, So make
sure you see him. We're gonna see in March. Yes,
come into my show. Yes, yes, I cannot wait. I'm
so excited. I'm gonna wear Do you want to wear
my wedding dress? I might, I might be calling you
up on stage. Well, I'm gonna be ready. Okay, Elise,
you are big in the social media scene. Obviously you
are huge on TikTok. So I'm gonna actually hire you

(18:24):
to help me because I don't understand TikTok at all,
but your videos, well it could have will me because
your videos are incredible. I feel like I just go
down rabbit holes and watch video after video after video
of you. But can you tell us, for all of
the listeners who don't know what actually made you blow
up on TikTok, what was that video about? Because it

(18:44):
is so good? Oh my gosh, So I went on
date with a guy like almost eleven years ago. Now
I'm I'm already gonna start laughing, like just remembering this TikTok.
What's so crazy? Okay, it goes a lot, okay, story, so,
oh my gosh, I can't believe this actually happened. Okay.
So I went on a date with a guy online. Literally,

(19:06):
it's like Craigslist at this point in like two eleven,
Like online dating apps are not cool, They're not fune.
It's super shameful, like meeting somebody online. So I got
a message from this dude and he had like one
photo first of all, first red flag, Like why don't
you have twelve thousand photos for me to look through?
You know, like anyways, So he's like, I like your face.
It's get some food. And then I was like, I

(19:28):
love food, You're my soulmate. Um, let's definitely go do that.
But he wanted me to drive to him. So I
drive see him and I'm like trying to figure out
whether this is the same person in the photo, and
he's already getting into my car and he's like, um, hey,
can you drive us to dinner? And I was like yeah,
I guess. And then he's like giving me turn my
turn directions and we land in a Taco Bell and

(19:48):
I was like uh. And then I'm like dining or
drive through and he's a drive through, so I was like, yeah,
I gotta know, I gotta know. When he was like,
let's go get dinner. You were like, yeah, there was
no light, follow questions of like where are we going
to dinner? How far is this place? Like is it Italian?
Or pizza or sushi? Like I would have six million questions.
You were just like I had them all. I had

(20:10):
them all. But I was eighteen, and I like, don't
I don't know the etiquette of dating. This is my
first time ever dating somebody that wasn't like from high
school where I had already known his whole life story,
his mom and like saw baby photos of him. You
know what I mean. It's like that first like adult
world dating experience. I'm like, am I allowed to ask
a question? Like raise my hand? Like I don't know?
What's Like? I'm a girl, Like should I have any questions? Like? Well,

(20:33):
you in your defense, he said let's get food. I'm like,
you know I would be like, hell yeah, I love
get married. Okay, yeah literally that that was my thinking.
So so we landed Taco Bell and I'm like, I'm
a girl that can get down with some tacos, Like
that's really not an issue with me. Like so it
wasn't like the taco belt thing. It was just that
like it was it was the node not telling me
where we were going. So I was like, okay, he

(20:55):
must have like a plan, and if he doesn't, I
like taco belt. So it's fine. So we go to
a drive and literally, like as I'm rolling my window down,
before I can even like get the window fully down,
he has like fully leaned over me and is like
on my lap, like through this inner console, asking like
I would like a hundred hardshell tacos and I'm like

(21:15):
a hundred like so I'm like okay, and he's like,
do you want anything? And I was like, nah, I
think and unless you plan on eating them all, Like
I think that's good. I think I have all the
other few like I thank you. So then like as
we're driving from the speaker to the window, he does
like the pat thing and I'm like, no, m I
And I was like, did you forget your wallet? And
he's like yeah, And I'm like do you need me

(21:37):
to pay? And he's like yeah, yeah. How much was
it for one hundred talk about tacos? He was about
one hundred and fifty USD So wow, my god, he
is not a cheap date. No, they didn't give me
like the party pack deal. They didn't give me like
no value sauces. Oh, they gave me a whole box
of hot sauces, like that was a whole box. And

(22:00):
for taco Yeah. And I did a video of me
reordering the one hundred tacos when I hit like I
think a million or something followers, and I showed a
physical representation of what that looked like in the car
and what it looked like when I grabbed them all
and ran out of the house. But that's so. So
we got out tacos and I was like, okay, like
where are we going next? And He's like, oh, We'll

(22:20):
just go back to my house. And I was like
I'm already committed now, Like I mean it, I can't
like one of these damn tacos, I know. I'm like,
at least I'll eat first, you know. So we go
back to the house. We walk in, his dad is
sitting on the couch, and I'm just like, okay, he
lives with his dad. Like I'm literally teleporting through hoops
to like explain to my brain that this is okay.
We sit down, He like pours all the tacos down

(22:42):
the table screams, let's feast, and then I'm like oh
my god, I'm going to be murdered. I think that's
the best part of the story though, is the let's
let's be well. So then some like eating tacos in silence,
and I'm like, Okay, this dude loves tacos, like you
know when your heart at this point, like this isn't
the first time he's done this, like this, this is
a regular occurrence. Oh yeah. And the thing that really

(23:04):
showed me I was like, this is a rehearsed experience
for him is his dad comes over, is standing over
me eating it like let us shredded, let us like
falling out together. Yeah, you've just been included today. Oh yeah.
And he goes, do you want to see my studio?
And they look at each other and that look of
like this is the time where we go show them
the studio. I like literally like I have like goosebumps

(23:26):
because it was so creepy. This is the beginning of
a horror movie. Yeah, they're podcast, They're my weird porno.
Like either way, whatever that studio was, I'm like, I
don't care if you want to show me your sick
beats or if you want to film an importate movie.
But either way like I do not want to know
like what it is, and so I like was like, no,

(23:46):
I'm good, and I gather all the tacos and I
walked to my car and try and make it look
like I don't need help, because the full last thing
I want is for him to like have a visual
memory of my license plate. So I just in shame,
I get the vie. He wasn't going to help you.
I mean he didn't dry if he didn't buy so
intrigued about what this studio is? Now, has he ever
since you blew up on TikTok and posted this video,

(24:08):
has he ever tried contacting you? No? No, Oh my gosh.
I want you to send me his name because I
want to creep on him and see if I can
message him and be like what was in the studio.
So I don't know. I don't know his name because
he tried. He tried to message me back, and I like,
after the date to ask me to go on another date.

(24:29):
And I was so terrified I would get really drunk
and respond to him that I deleted my entire account,
my whole okay Cupid account. I was like, I don't
even want to have the option to respond to this dude.
So I don't have his name or photo, but if
I saw a picture of him, I could I could
remember who he was. And yeah, just the fact that

(24:49):
he thought that that went well enough for a second date,
Like I want to know where this guy? Yeah, no,
like and like what does that entail? Like you go
pick up popcorn and then like go eat it in
the studio? Do I buy one hundred movie tickets for
him and his entire Do you buy one hundred Chipotle
burritos this time? And just up to Annie a little bit, No,

(25:10):
I don't. I would. I literally would be in debt
at that point. I had no money. I was like
I barely made it, like like buying this man's tacos
and it was sucked. Was instead of saying no, I
knew I was just paid the day before so and
he didn't know that. I could have been like, sorry,
I can't afford that. I don't have a one hundred
and fifty dollars my bank account, but I had like
one hundred and seventy five unfortunately, so he wiped it out. Yeah.

(25:34):
So anyways, that's how I got here. Okay, So for
all of our listeners, please check out her video that
made her blow up on TikTok TikTok. It is so good.
But at least before we met you were obsessed with
The Bachelor. You did your own funny recaps. They're incredible
and as somebody who actually lived it, they hit even
harder for us. So so glad give us the background

(25:57):
of how you got started in the bouch world. Wasn't
something that you and your husband just always watched together,
Like how did you join us? I have been following
The Bachelor since literally season one, and like my brothers
would drink red wine and eat chocolate and we would
like watch the shop, Like my brothers got me into
this show and um ever, every single episode since all

(26:19):
the paradise everything, And so when I got married and
met Jonas his first season was it was ari that wash.
So we literally to you together this day one. Yes
I knew I felt a connection with It was crazy,
like the whole thing. And I remember we had to

(26:42):
go to the gym to blow off our anger because
of the like unedited scene with you, and yeah, that
whole like thing. We were like so angry. It was
like eleven o'clock at night by the time we finished
watching that and we went to our gym to like
walk on the treadmill. So we ran in a little
apartment and like we were so mad for you, and

(27:02):
we're like this is bullshit, and like, oh my gosh,
so we've I've been following it for forever endom obstessed,
and so yeah, oh my gosh, We'll give give Jonas
an extra big hunt for me next time because it
makes me so happy. I will, I will. I want
to ask you more about Bachelor and because you are
part of bach nation now, I'm just gonna say what,

(27:24):
Please answer this correctly? Who has been your favorite lead
since you've been watching for the beginning? Um, I think, Becca,
I'm just gonna say, I'm winking at you. I can,
guys answer this correctly. Besides me, I know you have
because we're friends. But besides me, I was gonna say, genuinely,

(27:46):
you are like top three, you actually are, and I wouldn't.
I'm not just saying it but to you. And Okay,
I know I know that some people have certain opinions
about like Nick, but I genuinely did enjoy boy watching
him as the lead both times he was both times
he was on it, twice. Right, well, he was on

(28:07):
no no, no no, so he was on Boucher at twice.
He was on and then was the lead and then
when on Paradise and then was yes and then was
the lead. Yes. Yeah. So I actually enjoyed watching his
Um who else? Um I the first I mean the
first one was like incredible, the first season ever bachelor. Yeah,
and then um Jason that heartbreak of him like leaning

(28:30):
over the rail crying that cry is so iconic, Like,
oh my gosh, um, let's see. I liked Rachel's a lot. Um.
I loved meeting grocery store Joe so much, and it
like makes me so like happy to know that, like
y'all are so happy, and I'm just like, oh my gosh,
isn't weird by the way that, like, because Becka, you

(28:51):
never even really dated. No, I talked to him for
ten minutes and then he went home. You're like, yas, Yeah,
I don't nothing. I knew he had better things sore
in his future. You you felt it, you felt it
in your heart. I knew it. I knew it. Yeah.
So those are those are so on my face And
I know I'm blanking now that I'm under pressure and
answering the question. But I I think it's so cool

(29:12):
that each season is so different, like it's the same format,
but really, like once Quarantine hit two, it really it
really changed the format of everything and allowed people to realize,
like there are other ways that it can work out,
like with Colton not leaving and engage like all of that,
Like a lot of that kind of changed how it worked.
And so now people I feel like it's more of
a two way street, Like it's more of a choice

(29:35):
on both parties, like to say, like I'm in this,
you know, like it doesn't feel like, Okay, if this
person picks me, we have to get engaged and leave
a happy couple. Like it just it feels more um
what's the word like two street? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And
it's been really interesting to watch that unfold in these
these last few seasons. Um, and it's been really fun
to watch. Well, oh, sorry, you're good. I was just

(29:59):
gonna say for Clayton's season then, I mean, I want
to know all your thoughts. But who would you like
to see as the bachelotte or who are like, even
if it's not from Clayton's seasons, there anyone from the
past that you're like, oh my gosh, I would just
love to see this person be the lead. Um, okay,
so definitely not Shinney. And I really know, and I

(30:22):
need to know really quick before I answer that question.
Is that real? Like what part? Like, yes, it's real, right,
its not being edited in that way. No, I mean,
like everything that we say that comes out of our
MOUs is us. Like there are times where you'll have
like the team kind of helping direct conversations between people,

(30:45):
but like everything we say and do is us. Yeah,
no one say anything, but I think, like who I
would want to see? I don't know, like obviously if
you make it to the end, but like what's her name?
I have a cheat sheet with me right now, and
and them so bad names where she or she she's
the most amazing eyebrows and she she's Oh Rachel. I

(31:06):
really like Rachel. She's one of my favorites. And I
don't know if like she ends up being involved in
drama later, but she's my favorite right now. Um, and
then I, oh, Mara is that her name? I don't
like Mara. I just found out I don't like her, Mara, Mara.
She's like, I'm just keeping out one hundred, and I
was like, I don't think you know what that means,

(31:28):
my friend. I think that my definition of one hundred
and your definition of one hundred is not the same
one hundred like solid sixty four, like that is not
what I would plus one equals fifty. And I'm like,
I don't think that we went to the same math class,
my friend. She like, I just it blows my mind
that someone can tell the lead like this girl's too

(31:50):
young to get married. It's like there's one thing for
someone to say, like I feel too young to get
married and relaying that information, but then to just like
assume something somebody because of their age or the five
minutes that you've seen the lead in that person together,
like you're not allowed to tell somebody like what you
see and how that will play out long term, Like

(32:12):
that blows my mind when people waste their time that's
so precious talking about other people, like yeah, it never
works out for them, and they just do it every time.
You said it best, you said in your TikTok you
like it's prison rules out here, keep your head down
on other people's name about your mouth, and no joke.
That is it that is it. If anyone is going
on the show, that is the one thing you should

(32:32):
take away from this podcast, and it's just don't talk
about that whole situation I could get so fired up
about because I'm twenty three obviously, so I really it
just hit close to home and obviously like it was
things that I had heard before too, especially from the
general public. But like believe it or not, some people
don't get engaged at the end of it. Some people
get engaged and don't get married for five plus years.

(32:54):
And some people are just twenty three and are ready
for an engagement. And just because you aren't ready or
you sorry, you weren't ready at twenty three doesn't mean
that they're not. And some people get engaged way too
many times and it doesn't work out, so that just
never know, You never know. It's like roulette. You just
you hope for the best and see where it goes.

(33:15):
And like, yeah, it's crazy to me, Like I got
engaged at I think twenty two and married at twenty three,
and like for me, because that's my experience, it blows
me away when people are like, she's not ready, and
I'm just saying, how about you just stopping so secure
about your connection with him, and if you don't like it,
just be better, like just oh my gosh, I would

(33:37):
have loved Okay, I'm just gonna put this out there.
Two things. Number one, A lease, we might have to
see you in Paradise doing a little bartending action with Wells.
At that point, you would be gold. You would be
so good for anyone to go do for advice or
just like comedic relief. But I also have to say
in Last Sense episode they have a whole therapy group day.
It's like couples counseling, and instead of that counselort, I

(33:59):
would have loved to see you in the middle of
this with Clayton and the women, because that would have
been TV gold. I I'm not gonna lie to you
every time I post a recap. I'm just hoping to
God somebody will reach out to me and be like, hey,
would you like to be a part of a group
date in some way? Because I'm like, I'm not about
ready to just keep a running notes of like like, Okay,
these are my ideas if I were to be on

(34:20):
a group date, of what I would do, what I
can facilitate, I will bartend, I will like lead a
group therapy session. I will help you like wrap Christmas
presents for your grandma and give you advice on like marriage,
Like I don't care what it is, like, I just
I want somebody to call me in so bad so
I can like see at least you came to the
right place. I'm fact Wells is my brother's doppelganger, Like
I have sent three photos of Wells to my brother

(34:43):
and then like, y'all are literal twins, and so yeah,
I'll send you a photo of him after the fact.
Oh my god, we could do like we could do
a thing where we set your brother up and like
the whole bartending get up like behind the bar and
like different well and then the cast can walk down
and like order drink and just see if anyone even

(35:03):
recognizes what that it's not actually Well, it's the curly
hair everything. It's like they have the same like eyes,
like the way that they like laugh at things. I'm like,
you guys are literally in the same So when I
see Wells, I think that's why my heart gets so
like he's my family. Like a lot of you guys
feel that way. I feel like, you know, like when
you're saying, when you meet somebody for the first time,
you're like, I think this person's going to be in
my life for a long time. Everybody has meant like

(35:25):
you guys, like people from the batch world, Like it
feels like you're meaning family, and that could because I'm
a creep and I know more about you than I should,
but I think more than that, it's like, I feel
like it takes a special person to put themselves out
there on national television and be so open and vulnerable
with their lives and like let people into that like
their world like that. I don't know when you meet

(35:45):
somebody like that, you could that in me connects with
that in you and it feels like it's family. And
so side note as a just watcher, like, I want
to thank you guys so much for being so vulnerable
and allowing people to see parts of your life that
are messy but also like really amazing and like the
best thing that's ever happened to you and also like
the worst thing that's ever happened to you, all at once.
And so I really appreciate the fact that you guys,

(36:08):
even if you are afraid to do it, you do
it anyways. Because one it makes you entertainment, but too
it allows people to grow with you. Like I've learned
so much about myself and our relationship with you know,
me and my husband and my family dynamic, just because
of watching you guys be open. So I just want something, Alease,
that's so sweet. We'll thank you, We'll say for you too.
I know you know social media is so prevalent these days,

(36:31):
and you share so much. And obviously people can pick
and choose what they want to share personally, but you've
always been so open and vulnerable, even like not only
in your funny videos, but like in some of your
songwriting and singing as well. So thank you. I mean,
I'm at the end of this. We'll have everyone you know,
no where to go to find you, but please check
place out. Like her videos are incredible, some are funny,

(36:53):
some are touching, some are just like badass, They're so good.
We'll get into all that, but I need to ask you,
since you've been watching the show since the beginning overall,
if you could have, if Jonas would allow you to
have one hall pass, who would it be in vater Nation?
Well no, oh my gosh, oh, I have to think. Wait, Okay,

(37:15):
I've forgotten every single person I've ever seen in my
entire life. Now, Joe and I, Okay, I'll let you
think for a second. Joe and I were just talking
about this because a girlfriend of mine her hall pass
and she's in like a very happy human relationship. But jokingly,
her hall pass was Tyler Cameron. So when I was

(37:35):
gone for so long on Matt season, her boyfriend started
be like, have you have you heard back from Serena yet?
Have you have you heard He's like, this is getting
too close for comfort, like this was this was not
the plan. Serena my Matt's best friends with Tyler. Okay,
I have my answer, my answer. Okay. Oh I feel
bad now because he's like happy Ben Higgins. I'm sorry, Okay,

(37:58):
I'm in HOLI now. Benny's such a great guy. I
he is happily married, but you know he's so sweet.
I think, like I just it's it's like you meet,
like you see people like that just seem like they
are who they are on camera and off camera, and
that's what you're like, That's what's so attractive to me.
I'm like, oh my gosh, like you just seem like

(38:19):
a teddy bear. Yeah, anyways that and I'll leave it.
No ima, no, no, I need no, no, I need
to no, no, I can't. You can't do you have to? No?
I can't though, and you can't. I'm sorry. Nice. I
love that because she's got such a sweet smile, Like
his whole face is his smile, and I'm like, it's

(38:42):
just so nice. I'm gone. He's gonna be so amped.
It's gonna make this whole week. I'm never gonna hear
the end of it. I'm gonna have to block this
entire episode from Thomas because he's gonna be heartbroken. The
lace I thought, I don't know if Thomas could hear me,
And if I thought Tomas could hear me, I think
I'd light on fire. So he was automatically excluded from
his conversation that was never gonna come out of my mouth.

(39:04):
He's slowly he's weeping in the corner right now. I
feel like we could talk about The Bachelor with you
for hours. This has been so fun, But let's get
more into like you overall and your TikTok rise to
fame if you will? If you will? What's your creative
process when you make these? Do you just watch an

(39:25):
episode and you know, like find a funny bit and
you're like, that's it, or how like what all goes
into this? Oh my gosh, way more than you would think.
Well maybe not more than you probably know. It's more
work than it looks. But so what I do is
I have to watch the episode like three times, which
they used to getting longer. I don't know, I who's
anything these, but they go for they went from like
forty five minutes another like seven hours. I'm like, this

(39:48):
takes so much time, so and I love it though
I want it all. I want him to do seven hours.
So I watched him a few times, and then I
will make notes of like I have like a whole
spreadsheet of the dates and what the date is, and
then notes from them that I'm like, yeah, this is
really cool, I'd like to talk about that. And then
I like have to like edit them so that they
fit on the phone, and then I have to go
into the TikTok app and record them on green screen.

(40:10):
Then I have to record my screen because I have
to get them all to edit the episode later, So
I I like make a max it out at three minutes.
Then I have to go back into my phone and oh,
look at a Lisa's face and head up. How's it going, Joe? Good?

(40:37):
How are you? I'm so good. I'm just here in
Nebraska and um that I'm not. I'm just it's warm here.
That's why my face is look at just the smile
just lights up and tell your face so yeah, back up?

(40:58):
How could you look at those dim poles? Back? It's
because you guys, I have this weird sixth sense. I
knew something better was coming in the future. Okay, and
Joe and I just needed to sturt sit up on
the beach in Paradise together. That's why. That's true. That's true.
That's true. Grocery store Joe, I have one question for you. Um,
what is your favorite thing about Serena? Oh? Thanks? More

(41:19):
than what? If you want It's okay. If you want to,
you can do to. You know what. Wow put me
on the spot probably just yeah. Her giggle, her laugh
always puts me in a good move, no matter how
stressed out I am. When I hear her laugh, I feel, Oh,
thank you. I'm I'm gonna record her giggle and have

(41:41):
you make it your ring tone. I don't want to
play it out okay, other people falling in love with here,
just just Joe just I do want to ask a question,
and we probably should have started the podcast with this question,
but I'm sure Becca already knows the answer. Can you
tell us me, our listeners, how did you get into TikTok? Like,

(42:02):
how did this journey begin for you? Because like I'm
assuming you didn't go to like TikTok college and then
graduate and then start your career. No no, no, no,
no no no. I went to TikTok and I started.
I went to TikTok univerishy. Sorry. I started posting on
TikTok because I was awake really early because I had
a new baby, and so I just started waking up

(42:25):
at four because I was like trying to get alone
time as a mom before August woke up. And when
I was awake, I would think of like funny things
to say that I thought were really funny at least,
and so I was just hit record and as I'm
like making my ice coffee in the morning, and then
that was it and nothing was seen more than like
a thousand times right like by on an accident by people.

(42:46):
And it wasn't until I August had his first word,
and I posted that that people started coming to my account.
That was like the first big video was August saying Mama,
which I'm not realizing was just jibberish, but it was cute.
And so then after that I've started getting followers steadily,
but like until the taco video, that's when it just
like it ran away from me. I was like, I

(43:07):
don't control this at all anymore. It's it is the
world now to perceive an experience, and so yeah, it
just kind of happened by accident, and I just realized
I really love it, and people love watching me tell stories,
and people love the way that I process information and
spit it back out, and like I feel like people
just kind of are looking to me now to kind
of represent like just the mental health space, the ADHD thing,

(43:30):
like the mom thing, the like Nebraska thing, like comedians,
Like it's like it literally I just feel like I
get to have conversations with people and literally every walk
of life, in every like career, in every age group,
and like I get to have conversations like this where
it's like I seemingly before all this was a nobody
in comparison to like celebrity and then now I'm just

(43:53):
having conversations and I get to just oh, yeah, it's
just so encouraging to me that people want to hear
what I'm saying. It's just it's wild. Well, I think,
like my take on your account, what's so amazing about
it is you just show so many different facets of
your personality. Like you're a comedian, you're a storyteller, you
are relatable, you're a mom, you're a wife, and you

(44:16):
you're a Bachelor fan, and you just show all of that.
So people just see this like really holistic image of
like who you are, which is a really scary and
hard thing to do, I think on the internet to
like share all these different facets of yourself, and like,
I think you know back and I can relate to
the like going from you know, total being totally anonymous

(44:36):
to being totally public and it's kind of a crazy jump,
but you know, I think you've evolved really like beautifully.
I don't know if that's a weird thing to say
about it. TikTok, Yeah, I Oh, I have a question,
what would you give yourself, like a piece of advice
would you give yourself looking back when you were just
starting to become like famous, famous, Like what would you

(44:56):
encourage yourself with? I had kind of well I'm still
kind in year one, so like that might be a
better question for Becca to answer. And I also just
didn't have a normal transition because when my season was airing,
I was in Ontario in full lockdown. Basically I didn't
get out of lockdown from the pandemic fully until I
came back from Paradise. So it got it hit me

(45:19):
like really really hard all at once, where like I
had no gradual growth. But I think, just don't look
at everything and just focus on what makes you happy
and what you're passionate about and the people in your
life and their opinions, because that's really what matters. Yeah,
And I think just to add on to that, I

(45:42):
would say, like, I mean I've been now like in
this world of vat Nation since basically twenty seventeen, and
you know, for a while, it was just such a
change in my life, like I went, you know, as
Serena said, like anonymous to blowing up overnight. And I

(46:02):
think people feed so much into being a certain way
on social media, looking a certain way, you know, having
a certain aesthetic and like for me personally, just over time,
I had to kind of just grow into myself and
post like what I want and what makes me happy,
and like I didn't and I really try hard now,
especially to just not care about like engagement and numbers

(46:25):
and just to do it for me. And that's something
that I didn't know right away. Like you know, when
you get kind of into this world, you have so
many people and agents and managers and brands coming at
you being like, you know, what are your numbers, what's
your engagement, what's this, what's that? Here's what we can
throw at you for that, And I had no idea
about any of that, and so I really try to

(46:47):
like not focus on that and care about that and
just like post what makes me happy, if that's food,
or if that's my dogs, or if that's my relationship
or whatever it might be. I'm not I'm not trying
to do it to gain followers and boost engagement. It's
just more for me. And I know that's not for
everyone and that's just for me personally, but just to
not get caught up in the numbers of things. And

(47:10):
that's what I want to say to you, Elise, is
like when Serena says, your TikTok and your Instagram and
your social media just platform as a whole is so
relatable you truly, I will say this, like, you keep
it so real in every facet, whether it's funny, whether
it's regarding mental health, whether it's serious, whether it's just

(47:30):
being vulnerable in sharing your songwriting and singing like you
are just you on any given day. You have your
good days and your bad days. And that's why I
personally love following you and supporting you, and I think
that's probably why a huge fan base loves watching you
as well, is because you're just going to be you,
and I think in this world, in this day and age,

(47:50):
that's not as common as we think, and it's such
a beautiful thing. So I want to thank you. And
you also are a huge advocate for just women and
just building each other up and sharing kindness in our
actions and our words, and I think that is so
incredibly important. And you're just again for all of our listeners,

(48:11):
like please check out her page because she just is
so well rounded and has so many incredible things to
share that we could all take a page from. All Right, well,
I'm crying for that's really good. I think. I think
that growing up, I really just was so desperate and
hungry for a space that I felt like I was
allowed to figure out who it was and be myself.
And I feel like I grew up in the era

(48:32):
of Instagram just getting big, Facebook just getting big, and
it was like that super polished like life, like highlight
reel of your life, and I felt like there was
no space to make mistakes, there was no space to
have learned, like an opportunity to grow in front of
other people and get it wrong. And like, I genuinely,
from the bottom of my heart, just want to cultivate
like this community which sounds so cliche, of people that

(48:56):
like have their permission to just be themselves and nothing else,
and like also change in it. I think that when
you get famous, then people you're like timestamped as this
person and you are never allowed to change your mind.
And like, if you're famous long enough and in a
public eye, like a ten years from now, you will
be a different person than you were when everyone found
out your name for the first time. And like, I

(49:18):
just want to be so transparent with the fact that
like we're human, we can grow, we can also make
a video and have our hair be in a million
different directions and defining literal gravity and then like still
like be funny and relatable and like and like make
a friend and so yeah, thank you so much. That's
all I ever have wanted to do on my videos.
So the fact that that translates just makes my heart
so happy. Well, oh, I'm getting chills again. This has

(49:41):
been I have to say, like one of my not
just because you're you and incredible with my friend, but
like one of my favorite interviews I've done so far.
It's just been so real and so fun and it's
not all only bout for focus but everything else. All Right,
I know you are a very busy woman. You have
a husband and your career and tiktoks to make and

(50:01):
your baby. But um, let's get into a quick little game.
And yes, um we know you're not available since you
are married with the child and all. But just for
this game, we're going to pretend that this is a
Lise's season of the Bachelorette. So we're gonna do like
a little rapid fire question this season of the Bachelor.

(50:23):
So she is pretending to be a contestant on the
Bachelor oh okay, okay, got it. Sorry, okay, good catch. Okay, So,
but your husband can be the bachelor in this scenario
if you would let yeah it great, okay, great, So yeah,
we're gonna pretend. Wait should We're just gonna pretend. Yeah,
the bachelor's gonna be a bachelor and just like how

(50:45):
you would, okay, interact with him. So, um, it's gonna
be rapid fire. We'll just ask you a question. You
just go so okay, First things first, Elise, you're all
dressed up, you get out of the limo to meet
the bachelor. What's your big reveal? Are you going to
be wearing in a costume, driving up in a tractor, etc.
The world is your oyster, the budget is your oyster. Okay,

(51:08):
I'm gonna be wearing jeans and um, some type of
tennis shoes because I'm not about to stand in heels
all night. I don't. I don't have the knees for
that and the lower back. And I will be singing
a song, so I'll have my guitar and I will
have written a song on the spot, like on the
limo drive over, because if I think about it too
long then I will lose my mind. So I'll just
have written a song and walk up to him and

(51:29):
like been funny, not like trying to be like serious
about it, like really funny, And that will be nice.
That would managements. I love that perfect. Yeah, already create
this too. Yeah, someone's gonna steal this idea. You're gonna
bad to see this on the next I can't wait.
I hope. So well, our nice question was gonna be
what would your dress look like? But we already have
heard Denimon tennis shoes, so I'm gonna skip that one. Yes,

(51:52):
you finally get to talk to the bachelor, but another
woman interrupts you. What would your response be, Um, that's okay,
thanks for asking, that's not thank you? Um okay. Roles
are reversed now, So what if you haven't had time

(52:12):
to talk to the bachelor yet, are you gonna be
interrupting another woman? Um? Yeah, definitely. I will not be
the jerk that like is just going in two minutes
into somebody talking. I like, here's my thing. I am
not gonna like fight somebody to like want me. So
I would be the person that like sends my cell

(52:33):
home because I'm like I'm okay, like I have no,
I have no room to just like fight for somebody,
and I know that like that comes later, but like
first night, I'd be like, not, dude, if you don't
want to, Like if I didn't catch your eye, you
have like thirty people here, so I'm not gonna like
waste my time running after you. So I would I interrupt,
but I wouldn't really like do it too too much,

(52:56):
and I wouldn't try that hard, you know what I mean.
I just if we didn't see me and be like, wow,
she's stunning. I did. That's okay, someone else is gonna
think I'm stunning, you know what. I can see you
doing it. I could see you because you're so sweet
that like but like in a how do I say?
It's like in a sassy sort of way though, So
I could see you like giving the other girl enough
time but then coming up with like a plate of
food and just sitting down and be like, oh, you

(53:17):
guys want some and like starting it enough that way
is like this thruple and then you know, and then
the other the other one's good addles. Yeah, Like I'm
not asking you to leave, I'm just gonna join. Yeah,
I just say here while you guys talk like I
just have some food and everyone has to eat anyways,
so I might as well share my wings with you. Yeah,
that's like something I would definitely I love that and
I would love to see if the other girls just like, okay, fine,

(53:39):
I'm game. Like I'm gonna say, I'm gonna leave first.
I'm gonna use that. Actually I really like that. Then
really share one of my one hundred taco bell harsh
Thank you. Hey, guys, I hope to get one of
the producers. Go get me one hundred tacos. Would you
want one? They're gonna be staging about thirty seconds anyways,
so if you don't want to eat one, then like,
I'll just eating myself. I guess that's why we're beans tonight.

(54:01):
Thank you. All right, So I would give you the
first impression. Girls, I'm just saying this is now you're
one on one date. What would be your biggest fear
in terms of activity, Like do you hate horses? Do
you not want to go skydiving? Swimming with sharks? What's
the absolute never I'm going to send myself home before

(54:22):
I do this date? Oh, I mean it's anything heights
wise in any literally anything too high or too low,
so underwater or no anything in space sky. No, just
keep me on the ground, like if you will, I
will sea level see, yeah, normal sea level and like
that's good, Like it's good. I'll ride a horse, I'll
drive a car, I'll walk okay. Just please don't push

(54:47):
me out of a plane in the sky. And don't
make me like look at things that live in the
ocean and don't want to see people. They live in
the ocean for a reason. Please don't make me look
at it. Okay. So on that note, then for group date,
would you rather do a physical activity or a performance activity? Oh? Performance?
I can't handle any type of physical like unless it's
like not. I don't want to fight anyone. I don't

(55:07):
want to do any of those like like pillow fights
with like the feathers that go everywhere. I don't want
to do like WrestleMania. I would I want to I
can roast somebody, I can sing a song, I can
like come up with things on a spot. I just
I don't want to like fight anyone. Oh my god.
No physical I got my season on one of those days. Yeah,
I'm right there with you. No, And I don't I

(55:29):
know no, thank you, no, no, But I'll go on
a hike. I'll do that. I'll on the ground, on
the ground. I can even handle a little too. I'm like,
I'm good. If I can't fall off the side of
this mountain to my death. I'm like, I'm good. But
if it's like I feel like I'm gonna no, no,
thank you, I give it. Alrighty you hear another woman

(55:49):
talking about her boyfriend back home? Are you telling the bachelor?
Absolutely not. That is her business. Who knows he might
be into open relationships. I don't know. Oh, I can
ask him, but I'm not going to tell them about
her boysman. Now, I'll let her use my phone to
call her moving back home, my contraband phone. I'm not
I don't care. I'm not going to tell the lead.

(56:10):
It's all good. Yeah, prison rules, prison rules, out of
my mouth. Yeah. Would you be open to calling another
woman out if she's doing something rude? Oh? Yeah, I'm
a big fan of like your your consequence, your choice.
So like, if it just affects you, if you're being
rude and it's just you in a room, fine, But

(56:31):
when it affects me and like the health of the house, Yeah,
I'm gonna say something, but if if it doesn't affect me,
like no, you keep going and being your bad self.
I cannot think like if if you're going to confront,
like if there's someone stirring up shit, don't break to lead,
like just take it right to that like that woman,
you can handle it yourself, Thank you. I do not understand.

(56:52):
I'm like, do you know how much drama would be
resolved by people just talking? Like that's pretty much a
universal thing, Like how much has been resolved that gets
brought up? Because oh god, it kills me, like people
like she's not doing her dishes. It's like, dude, just no,
oh my gosh, yes, just talk about it anyways. Right,

(57:16):
oh wait, sorry, you get the last one. This is
our last one. So unfortunately your time on the Bachelor
has come to an end. Are you crying in your
final interview in the level? No? No, you say it now.
I know, I know. I know. I have the luxury
of not actually experiencing that, and it's hypothetical. I okay,
So one, I am a crier. The only thing that

(57:37):
I am worse at and like and like, I just
I will stone cold ie someone out if someone has
hurt me. I will give them nothing, like I will
go to like the darkest place in my brain to
not give them what they are like wanting, which is
me to be sad. And I say that like not

(57:59):
having experienced it, but it's I will shut off. I
will become a robot and then when everyone walks away,
I will lose it for like seventeen days. Um and
but then you don't know. I feel like by the
time you get sent home, if you make it long enough,
you have been around the cameras and all of that
long enough to where you kind of are desensitized to it.
I'm sure like if you've been to like the last

(58:21):
few weeks, it's like these cameras have been in your
face the whole time, so crying crying would feel less
like it'd be, you feel like less invasive, like you're
just talking to a friend, right, Is that kind of
how it would feel? So totally this has been such
an absolute blast. Oh my gosh, please come back anytime.
We got to get into the mansion. We got to
get you involved somehow. I know you're very busy, but

(58:42):
we have to take it you. I will take it.
Thank you so much for the opportunity. It was so
good to see you. It was so nice finally meeting
it after about friends. Yes, I'm so happy, Alice, thank
you so much. You are the best. Yeah, okay, I'll
talk to you guys later. Oh my gosh, I just

(59:03):
absolutely love her. Is she not just such a gem?
I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed with her. She's so funny, She's
such a gem. I want her to come back and
do like an actual full episode recap with us one day.
Oh one thousand percent, she will be back. I'm going
to find give me two seconds. I want to find her.
I should have had her plug her own Instagram and TikTok.

(59:27):
But for any of our viewers out there who want
to check her out, it is Elise. It's e l
y s E underscore Myers, and that's m y e
r s. That's her Instagram Elise Underscore Myers and then
her TikTok is. I haven't else Myers, just her full name,
no Underscore, so at E l y s E, m

(59:49):
y e r s and definitely follow her on there.
I went down a deep dark rabbit hole of her
TikTok and was laughing hysterically. Yeah, you never know what
you're going to get with her, and that's that's why
she's so fun to follow, but even even better in person.
I cannot think a lease enough for joining and they

(01:00:09):
can't wait to see more of her. Um okay, Serena.
Before we wrap this episode really quick, we have to
go through, of course, our Rose and our thorn of
the week. So I'm just gonna keep it simple. My
rose were I'm gonna say Susie's shoes when she came
back from that date, because they were incredible. And then

(01:00:30):
my thorn is going to be how many times the
women say the word like, I'm gonna leave it at that. Yeah,
they do say it a lot this season. Um okay.
My rose is going to be getting to watch Susie's
shopping spree the part two where she got to trown
all those designer gowns. I thought that was so cool.

(01:00:53):
I've also been to Vienna before actually, so the date
that they had, I've actually been to that castle, so
getting to see like all the spots and I'm just like, oh,
I'm dying to go back to Europe. And then my
thorn is going to be Sarah's fake tears. I'm sick
of the fake tears. Nothing irks me more. We've seen
them multiple times this season, and yeah, that would be

(01:01:15):
my thorn. It's a good one, all right, everybody. We're
gonna leave it at that until next week. Again, huge
thank you to a Lease for joining us. You were
such an absolute pleasure to have and sarrying to Thank
you again and even bigger thank you to all of
our Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. And I've said this before
and I'm going to say it again. As a reminder,

(01:01:36):
we are still casting for both The Bachelor and The Bachelorette.
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(01:01:56):
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will see you all next week. Until then, bye everyone,