May 15, 2025 • 32 mins
Today on “Happy Hour,” we’re recapping Episode 1 of “Bachelor Pad” Season 3! Bachelor Nation is officially dropping Season 3 of the iconic series, and we’re covering everything that went down in Episode 1! We’re giving you the breakdown on the “Bachelor Pad” gameplay, the tea on all the contestants, and so much more. There’s scheming, explosive drama, and so much mess to discuss. Tune in now to hear all our thoughts on Episode 1 and be sure to stay tuned for the rest of Season 3, dropping every Monday on the Bachelor Nation YouTube channel. Make sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We are here to recap a different episode something we've
really never talked about on this podcast, which is Bachelor Pad,
which came out before Bachelor in Paradise, and we're kind
of doing this because we're getting ready for Bachelor in Paradise.
But Bachelor Pad Season three, episode one was just released
on Bachelor Nation's YouTube channel, so we watched it and
(00:28):
we're going to recap that shit show right now.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
If you are not familiar with Bachelor Pad, because it's
been what like fifteen years since Bachelor Pad was a thing,
there's a couple seasons of it. It took place in
the Bachelor Mansion, similar style to Paradise, where it was
like co ed guys and girls, but it was a
mix of dating and a competition show, so there's different pairs,
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there's competitions like physical challenges that you have to win
and then compete for to get different advantages, and then
the goal at the end was to both hopefully find
a relationship, but even more so to win the cash prize,
which was I believe two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
this season correct.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So one thing that so obviously Bachelor Pett evolved into
Bachelor in Paradise, which watching bacheler Pet, the first thing
that was kind of like I didn't love was that
they were in the mansion. Still, I like the aesthetic
of like a beach in paradise.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, well, I love the mansion. I think it's so iconic.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
But I think what people forget is on the regular
seasons of The Bachelor and the Bachelrette, you only see
so much of the mansion. It's really just like where
the girls and guys are hanging out and sleeping and
getting date cards, and then you're out and about like
you're on dates with the lead, and then after week
four you're traveling, so like it's not as much as
it's an iconic symbol. It's really just like a big
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part of night one, and then after that you're not
seeing that much of it, seeing a whole season in
the mansion. I think that a setting like a beach
in paradise, like Cabo Costa, Rica is a way better
fit for like a full time show. I agree the
flow of the house. It's also like it's a little dark,
like it's got like that like Spanish influence to it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, it's just a little like it's just it's a
little small. Yeah, so too, you know, And it's not
small obviously for like a family to live there, but
it's like to have.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Like a cast of thirty people film me there twenty
four to seven. I would actually be curious to know
if they were like having challenges with that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I mean I'm sure, yeah, sure, so we The first
thing we're kind of introduced to is you get the
cast that are they're all coming back, and you have
people like who we know, like Chris Pokowski is kind
of the only one that we personally know.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, Chris Pukowski, who's been on like the most Bachelor
shows ever. Yeah, you're probably familiar with him. He was
on Pair Nice a few times. He came from Emily
Maynard season and he's now with Anna Redmond. Yeah, but
everyone else I was not as familiar with. I mean,
we know Chris personally, I don't know any of the
other cast members, but all from seasons. Just to give
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you a little context, Deanna, Jillian, Harris Ashley, and Emily
Maynard seasons of the Bacherette and then Ben Flanagan, Brad
and Lorenzo's seasons of the Bachelor is what we're pulling
some pulling from. So we're going like very old school
but like kind of like the height of Bachelor stiff.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I would say those the people that make seasons.
I would assume that the people that were on this
season were the most were the fan favorites of their
season of The Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Bacherette definitely.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I mean, like, you know, Ed was engaged to Jillian
Harris and it didn't work out, and he's like a
main character in this.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
TV because the guy's just getting wasted running around naked. Yeah,
we don't get to see that stuff anymore totally.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And then we have Kaylin, who was on Emily Maynard's season.
He was kind of the villain. He called her daughter
baggage and he's like like.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That, Like that's the thing about like now everyone is
so media trained and social media trained that you will
never see that. Yeah, but like it it's a reminder
of how like funny and raw reality TV was, yeh
be because people were just fucking talking crazy shit.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Oh yeah, Like even this first episode, I couldn't believe
I could believe what they were saying, but I couldn't
believe they were saying it on Bachelor Pad, a show
that has like millions of viewers.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Attacks on like people's just looks.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh, it was constant, just their physical appearance coming for
one another. And I mean, you know they're referencing, Like
you guys have to remember that are listening, Like they're
referencing the tabloids, like that was where things were happening.
There was no social media. So it's like nowadays, you
say something on the show that people don't like, you're
getting attacked in your DMS. They have this direct access
to you. They're picking apart your character, they're picking apart
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everything that you have said, whether they like it or
don't like it. There was no direct access unless you
like ran into these people on the street. So like
you have these people that are villains, you know, like
Blakely talks about like how she wasn't very like like Kaylin.
He's like, yeah, like I called her daughter baggage, and
like I'm standing ten toes down on what I said
and like I'm down to be controversial and not liked
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because like it was just way less of a risk
back then. I really think like social media has elevated
and like decreased the entertainment.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Of reality television.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Like watching this, I was like, wow, like you would
just like Sarafina called Zoe's dress super short and like
we all were up in arms. The stuff people are
saying about each other on this show doesn't even come
close to.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That, Like, it is way more below the ball.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This is this is the ship talking that contestants getting
their dm dms from people that watch the show, they
will get this kind of shit said to them.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, but it's different from like, you know, someone in
the house versus like hundreds of strangers who are like
taking it way too far.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah. I just think it's funny because like yeah, like
like that comment from Sarah Fina and I was like,
how could you say that? It's like fucking a ton
of people watching this at home, we're saying shit like that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh yeah, people are saying it on the comfort of
their couch. But then we've got we've got this Bachelor
padcast being like you're ugly and I hate you and
you're stupid and your dress is hideous?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
How could she wear that?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's disgusting because ugly and like just like direct comments
on like these people.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Jacquline walked up to.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Blakely.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, David Jaffin walked up to David by the pools, like,
you're to vote me out? I just want to let
you know you're a loser and you're ugly.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Whoa, whoa, it's so crazy about I love it.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Then the second thing they introduced to us is they
are bringing fans of Bachelor onto Bachelor Pad to compete,
which is interesting. Also, the show has to remind us
a million times that, like, the fans love watching the
Bachelor and that they're on the Bachelor. It's like this,
(07:32):
I don't know why the show feels the need to
plug their own show during their show. On a consistent,
fucking basis, everybody is on watching the Bachelor. You don't
have to remind us that there's fans of the fucking show.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And they call them the fans like that, Like we're
not saying that, Like they call them the fans.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They call themselves like we are the fans. Like it's
like the.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Contestants and then the fans, even though the fans are competing.
But it's kind of funny because they've cast people that
are obviously good looking, like they look like they could
be on the show, but they're casting people that they
know specifically. These girls are that are gonna like not
keep their cool, like they're not gonna come in and
like act like they've been here before. Like they're coming
in and they're like fanning out over Chris Harrison. They're
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asking for selfies, like they are not acting like, oh,
we're all here as contestants, like we're all here together,
like they're coming and being like, oh my god, this
is my dream.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I can't believe I'm here.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Like, yeah, it's a very distinct line between like who
the fans and who the contestants are.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Definitely, but I also think that was.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Push Oh yeah, I'm sure it was encouraged, like this
is so exciting, you know, we want to see that
you're a fan of this show, like don't be afraid
to like show that. Whereas like if a girl on
Night one did that, like you're gone, You're home, You're
going home immediately, if you walk up to the Bachelor
and you like start fanning out.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, so yeah, interesting, interesting element to bring fans on,
and it's pretty much an immediate like Okay, there are
people from the show the contestants from prior seasons, and
then there's the fans. We are going to x out
the fans, like immediately you're on, Like I think it's
(09:14):
like Chris Pucoski's like, you're on our show.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, it's us against them. This girl Rachel is like enough,
I don't want them here. And I mean they've made
it so like there's way more like there's triple the
amount of contestants than there are fans. There's only five
of the fans, so like they've made it very easy.
If the contestants want to pick them off, they can.
And I think even I think it was Rachel who said,
like you didn't get your heartbroken on national television, Like
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you didn't have to go through and we had to
go through to be here, like almost the sense of
like there's an initiation process that you got to skip
and like that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, yeah, very funny. So I kind of I guess,
like my but I like issue with it. If I
were to say I had an issue, is I kind
of like if I want to watch a competition show,
(10:08):
I want to watch a competition show, and if I
want to watch a show about people falling in love.
I want to watch a show about people falling in
love the hybrid of both of those. As of now,
just watching episode one is like a little confusing because
I'm like still like what are we?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What are we? Is the question? Like what is this?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah? What am I watching? And it's kind of hard,
like I don't even know. I yet to know, Like
how do you even win? The two? Like I get
that there's competitions.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Well, Like for those listening, the structure from episode one
that's presented is you pair up. You just pick your partner,
like it doesn't even have to be on like if
you're interested in them romantically, you pick a partner. I
think it's you know, girls and guys obviously, and then
there's this competition that happens where they have like these.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Hanging big hearts.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
So we're like still on the theme of love, and
you and your partner have to fit into the heart
and they like tilt them and make it difficult for
you to stay in it, and the person that stays
in the longest wins and you're safe from elimination. So
very like traditional competition structure, like similar to like a
survivor a big brother.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think that they needed to. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think they're having a like in episode one, like
it's hard to dictate, like is this like the challenge
where like it's a competition show, but like you also
know that people are going to end up poking up
and getting together just like naturally by having you know,
a bunch of heterosexual men and women in the house together.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, I think that's what they're going for.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, So like we're not so it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So like I would say it's competition show first, dating
show second. Yeah, but they're filtering in this kind of
like dating theme by making like the guys and girls
partner up and pick their partner and doing like the
love themed competition.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, but we're not we're not showcasing on this show.
I don't believe that they're going to be focusing or
showcasing a love story. If anything. They want to see
like people hooking up. Yeah, and arguments from that I'm
assuming from like like we're already seeing it with crys
Pokowski and his partner and he's talking to another girl
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and his partner is upset.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, Chris Bukowski ends up with Blakelee as a partner
and then like that night, like very soon after he
is chatting with this girl Jamie, they're making out, Blakely's
piss like we're in an immediate love triangle.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, And it's like, why is Blakely pissed? Well, she's
saying she's pissed because she wants to win the money.
But I would assume she's pissed because maybe she thoughtge thing.
But like that's the thing. You don't you can't like
some of it, Like you can't really tell at least
from episode one, And I think that's my gripe.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Your gripe with that.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, well I think like let's say, okay, so we
look at like The Challenge, which is a competition reality
show that has like a lot of romantic sideplots, and
then we look get something like leve Island, which is
a romantic dating reality show with competition side plots. And
I think that Bachelor Pad in this first episode hasn't
(13:12):
exactly figured out which one it is yet, like what
is the focus the competition or the dating?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, and maybe there is when because there was seasons
prior to this, so maybe like people do know, we're
just we just.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Don't probably just yeah, we're just dummies.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, but also we should add that, you know, these
two fans who partnered up David, and then there's twins
on this who are acting as one person, which I
just can't with twins.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And everyone the house seems to be really annoyed by
the twins.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
They don't like the twins Eric and Brittany, which makes.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Sense because watching episode one, they come across a little alike.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well, they're already in a disadvantage because they're fans, not contestants,
and then they're saying like, hey, we're one person, Like no,
you're not your two adult, grown women, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, but that's but that's also they're being Yeah the.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Show, they've been cast as one person, but yeah, they're
not coming across great David. Eric and Brittany win that
first competition, and their reward, other than being safe, is
they get to go on a date. So I guess
if you're like, if you're partnered with someone and it's
starting to turn into a romance, it's like that additional
incentive like, oh, we'd love to win because we want
to be safe, but also then we get to leave
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the house and go on a date together.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So what's going to happen when you and your partner win,
but you're cooking up with somebody else so that you
go on a romantic date with your partner.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I don't know, that's kind of like another element
to it. Yeah, I mean I think you just keep
it friendly and you just talk game strategy instead of
getting romantic. But yeah, no, there's definitely like a lot
of potential jealousy that could occur here. I mean we're
already seeing it with Chris and Blakely.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Did you find anyone or did you see anyone on
this first episode that like you were rooting for, because
that was one thing also that I kind of noticed
is Yeah, I would say the Bachelor and The Bachelor
and even Bachelor in Paradise they kind of like they
kind of like showcase like a hero on episode one
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or somebody that like the fans are gonna like, well, they're.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Telling you, like they're giving you clues of like these
are the one or two people that are safe, like
you can like them, like they're they're good, and then
you know you've got like.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
The chaotic evil yea of like these.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Are maybe the villains, but maybe we like them a
little bit, like we've got the Kaitlin of it all,
who's like kind of a little out of the control,
but like he's entertaining. Or Erica Rose, Like Erica Rose
and Kaylin are in this feud because Erica Rose went
to the tabloids about Kaylin and like spoke badly about him.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
They're both great, Like they're great immediately them, Like you
cannot kick one of those two people off from now.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Erica Rose almost gets sent home. So almost got sent home,
and it was like, no, you cannot lose her. She's
doing so much, she's so entertaining.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I would say, Michael Michael got the.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Editor, Yeah, Michael Stagliano.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Of like everyone's gonna like this guy.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, and he has been on Bachelor before. He's the
only like return he won it, so he's kind of
like you're following him through episode one is like Okay,
he knows what he's doing, he's done this before. And
also like everyone seems to really like him.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, so they should kick him off.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
How do we feel about Okay, so something we got
to talk about. Like Chris Harrison comes in and you know,
he talks to everyone in the room, and like this
guy ad from Chicago can't even sit and listen. He's
so fucked up. He's jumping in and out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, he's in like little white tidy whities.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Which like there's a girl like we don't care how
big your dick.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Is, Like put some pants on and sober up. That
was funny. I think that was Jamie.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That that was a wild time for reality TV. I forget,
like like I was like, all right, like like I
feel socially awkward. This is intense and intimidating. I need
a drink to you know, calm down. Yeah, yeah, get
rid of the edge. But like I'm probably gonna like
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and then everyone's gonna be kind of doing well, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
What it is. It's everyone. I mean Ed's gone above
and beyond.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Like everyone is clearly in their interviews by the end
of the night like they're drunk, Like they are doing
interviews absolutely drunk. They are sloppy, they're slurring their words.
But Ed is like on another level, like he's so hammered.
He's literally out in the pool. Well, Chris Heireus' is like, man,
we're trying to film a scene. Like I'm trying to
explain to you literally what show you're on. And like
he's just not even there. I don't know, it's it's
(17:44):
just a different time. But I also think like social
media plays a role into it too. I don't know
if you would see as many people because like, look,
it's all young, attractive, single people that are like, I've
got an open bar and a gorgeous mansion. I'm just
here to have a good time. Like I'm young and
I'm just like looking a party. I think social media
makes people like just more conscious. I don't think I
(18:05):
don't know if we can see as many people getting
as drunk as we used to.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well. I also it also has to do with like
the show, right, Like it's kind of been proven over
the history of The Bachelor with social media that the
contestants that do well after the show, and what I
mean by do well is like you know, get a
lot of like love and grow social media following. Those
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people are characterized on the show as very nice, either
heartbroken or end up in love. Yeah, anyone that's like
going on the show like for a good time to
get fucked up, which is what all these people are.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Doing and like shamelessly.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, Like and that's that's like the biggest difference yeah,
and it's kind of fun. Like it's so it's like
refreshing after watching so many seasons of of kind of
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Well, it's also like as viewers, we watch reality because it's.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Not that serious, you know, it's fun. And I mean
I think Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And Bachelott definitely have more of a serious tone to them,
and that's to be expected. But like Paradise, I feel
like there's been a bit of a struggle of it's
like Paradise is not that serious, like, yeah, you want
to find love, you want to find a relationship, but
it's meant to be this like fun, young, beachy show.
And I think that we've kind of lost that tone
(19:35):
of like guys, like, don't stop taking yourself so serious,
Like this is meant to be fun, And it like
translates as a viewer watching Paradise versus watching Bachelor Pad.
Like Bachelor Pad, they're like, yeah, it is meant to
be fun, Like we're literally just here to have a
good time.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, And it was also a different time, like, like
I would say, drinking culture was totally that. This was
still a time where you would go to bars in
Chicago and be able to smoke cigarettes in there.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
What's crazy too is like nowadays, obviously it's no secret,
like a lot of people from the show have other opportunities,
become influencers, become entrepreneurs. These are people that had like
full corporate jobs that were going to act this way
on national television like just hammered swimming in the pool,
getting yelled at my Chris Harrison and then go.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Back to work.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, like that is a whole other thing I did
even think about.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I would say there was a lot of people that
probably got fired weren't able to go back to work
after this. Like Ad was a Chicago fireman, so it
was probably he was probably like celebrated.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Like you have like go like I guess it depends
on like what jobs had to Sure.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, but if you're in like banking and like finance,
like you're getting fired, Yeah, you're not going back to that.
If you're in you know, cosmetics, cosmetic surgery or you
know you're doing that, I think you're fine. I like
your example, Yeah, firemen and cosmetics, like you're good offing.
Anyone's gonna fire you for that.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
So getting back into the competition element, they are essentially
going to be voting each other out.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Is the structure.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yes, so this is now based on like the contestants
against the fans. They're kind of like, hey, we have
more of a right to be here than you guys
coming in as a fan, Like you have an easy
target on your back, let's pick them off. But then
we've also got David, who is one of the fans
who's safe because he want the competition, is aggressively trying
to vote Eric Rose.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I'm not really sure why was there like a specific reason.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Well, I think it's read so if you if you
win the competition, if you you're on the team that
wins the competition, you are safe, Yes, if you are
if you come if you're out first, you automatically have
a vote against right. So I think he saw that
and instantly ran his mouth, which on any competition show,
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at the beginning of the show, you need to be
under the radar, especially if you're coming in as an outcast.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah. Well, because so Erica Rose and her partner Nick
were the first out of the competition, so they automatically
had a vote against them, and I think that's where
David was like, well, let's just vote them out.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
They already have a vote against them.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
The thing is it didn't work as much as you know,
we had David petitioning for it, and then we had
Read and Kaylin just straight up lying to Erica Rose's
space and scheming behind her back, being like we're sending
her homes.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
So now, unfortunately eric Rose is still in the house
and she hates David and now she's coming for him
next week, which is the fun of a competition show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I also feel like there was, yeah, there was there
had to be an element amongst producers and even castmates
of like we still want like to make good television
and Erica Rose right now is our top gun, Like
is she is the TV maker out of this group?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
She especially the girls more low key girl, she cannot
n go home.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, it's also like like we don't really think this
is more this way that much on our show, but
like I'm assuming at this time it was like if
eric Carros goes home, we have to start doing shit
and we have to step it up, but we have
to start making TV. Why wouldn't we keep her around
when she's doing so much?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
But I do think a lot of these people, I
think it's pretty easy for them to make TV because
A they're drunk and be everyone really like doesn't seem
to care that much, which is great. Yeah, I do.
I do really like the element. The one thing I
do like is I enjoy enjoy watching like the scheming
and then like, Okay, we got this person's vault, this
person's well, we see.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Read and Kaylin.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
No her name, was reading Page trying to figure out
like to keep her on the show.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yes, because they were partners for the challenge, and honestly,
Page is a fan. She ends up going home and
Chris was the other fan. He ended up going home.
But Page was really nice and I thought it was
sweet that Reid was like, hey, I like her. We
were in this challenge together, Like I'm gonna fight for
her to stay.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well, that's the part that I love because now what
you're gonna get or is you're gonna get people falling
for each other, and then you're gonna get somebody that
may have fallen for you who's jealous of the situation.
They're gonna vote that person. So now the stakes are
even higher because not only do you want to win
the money, you also want your connection, yeah, to stay.
And then when people start like fucking with you that way.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Well, for example, we've got the love try and go
with Chris, Blakelee, and Jamie going on Blakely. If I'm her,
I'm gunning for Jamie now because not only is Blakely like,
you're distracting my partner, it seems like she kind of
has a crush on Chris and is like, well, maybe
if I get Jamie out of the way, I can
shoot my shot here.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Do you do you think they should do? Like you
have to go home as a team, Like I kind
of think.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, I'm wondering if the partners switch up.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Oh maybe you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Like, I'm wondering if they want the partners to switch up,
because if you go home as a team, then it's
never gonna change where I think the hope is probably
like there's an opportunity for like, oh, I'm with this person,
but I'm crushing on this person, so like I'm going
to ditch them because they're pissing me off and go
like team up with them.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
There's a lot of movie pieces.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
There's a lot of movie pieces. There's a lot of
potential messiness, which I think is good.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, I would like you need to watch.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Like another episode or two. I feel like to like
really get locked in on the format.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, or give me at the beginning of the show,
give me like a grid or like a bracket system
of how this tournament works, Like, give me, I want
that in all competition shows, like I'm want.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Maybe not on the show, but like yeah, like on
their website, there needs to be like a rules tab
so you guys can just go and be like okay,
like what But then at the same time, you know
that there's going to be like twists and turns and
things that they throw at them.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
That's fine. But if the first time I ever played Monopoly,
I need to read the rules, yeah, okay, yeah, and
if I'm watching people play Monopoly, which would be boring.
But if I decided that I want to sit there
for my entertainment and watch people play Monopoly, I still
need to know the rules of the game. It's going
to be interesting. For like, comparing this now to what
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we are about to watch with Bachelor of Paradise, well.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Are like theory is it's not a coincidence that Bachelor
is releasing this episode and highlighting Bachelor pad on the
You know, we said you can watch this episode of
Bachler Pad on the Bachelor Nation YouTube, which we encourage
you to do.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It is a fun watch.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I don't know if it's like timing, is a coincidence
that they're releasing this and they're encouraging people to watch
it kind of a month or two before Paradise comes out.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I'm wondering if.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
They're going to be bringing some of these elements back
because like my questions like why now, Like why are
we circling back to Bachelor Pad now?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, I mean I think I think we are. I
think that's exactly what's happening. I think we're right who
watching this episode one? Do you have your favorites? Like
who is your favorite?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, it's kind of I mean, like taking Chris out
of it because obviously we know him personally, so we're
a little biased there. I mean I like Kaylin and
I like Erica Rose. I just think they're both like
very chaotic. They're gonna stir things up. They're like you know,
people that you like love to hate, hate to love.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I also like Read because he's not scared to get
it done, Like he's he's going out there, he's making
he's confident.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, he's making moves. I like read too.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
He he's showing confidence, he's making moves, which is exactly
what he just said, and I'm just repeating it, but
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I did like that girl Page who was the fan.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, she was sweet and she they they made
her look really nice. It was that. Yeah, I thought
she was actually gonna make it.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But I like this Jacqueline Blakelee Dynamic. I think that's fun.
I like Ed as much as he's kind of a
mess and someone that like. He'll either get it together
and you'll end up being like this guy's fun and
I like him, or he won't and you'll be like, Okay,
it's time for him to go home.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well, I'm assuming ad was a was the biggest fan
favorite on the show.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well he ended up with Gillian Harris yet, but I
don't think he was a fan favorite because I believe
in his package. He said that there was a bunch
of rumors that he was caught out with like other girls.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well that's what he said. He's like, there was there
was cheating rumors, Yeah, which like not deny on that?
Did your hear?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like no, I miss that.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I mean I heard the like yeah, like the cheating
rumors and stuff. I didn't hear him say that, yeah,
not denying.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
That, Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
At the beginning, he's like, yeah, I know a lot
of you read the tabloids and the tabloids when just
the word tabloid just sounds I love that so.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Old, I know.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
But you know what's crazy is like it wasn't that
long ago, Like it really was like fifteen twenty years ago.
Think about how much things have evolved in a short
period of time when it comes to like media, entertainment, news.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You want to know what's even You want to know
what's even crazier is when this show came out. I
don't know what year it was, but there is a
really good chance that the iPhone wasn't out yet, like
or it might have been like early stages. It might
have been like iPhone one.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You might be right.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Let's see what year, yeah, came out Bachelor Pad season three,
twenty ten. Okay, what year was the iPhone released? Two
thousand and seven? Okay, so the iPhone was out, but yeah,
still still early.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, pretty crazy but entertaining episode overall. I enjoyed it.
Would you watch episode two?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I would watch episode two more joke, because I feel
like they like do a good job of like lighting
a few fires in episode one. You kind of have
a general idea of the plot, the competition, but also
there's like room to learn more, Like you leave with
questions and curiosity.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I feel like it was good. I feel like Bachelor Pad.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Was maybe like ahead of its time, Like I feel
like if they'd stuck with it and maybe just like
pivoted a few.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Things, I'm actually watching it, I'm actually surprised that they
ever they have they ever made the change from Bachelor
Pad to Paradise.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Well, I could see them changing locations obviously, like we
talked about in the beginning. I don't know if the
mansion is like a fit for this style, but I
am surprised that they cut the competition element format. And
I feel like, you know, Bachelor Universe is based on
finding love, right, Like that's the core value, and I
can understand maybe why they wanted to circle back to that.
But we've always said, like there's so much opportunity for
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like spinoff shows within the franchise with alumni, with potential
competition shows, and I feel like Bachelor Pad like there's
a place for that yeah, still to this day.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Well, but I also think like Bachelor and Paradise was
a way for the franchise to gain successful couples, right,
they have successful numbers because I think, well.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And I guess that's what it went back to, is
like this franchise is based off having successful, long lasting
love stories and they weren't going to get that from
Bachelor pat Like they needed a Paradise, which honestly has
produced so many couples. So if that was their goal,
like they've achieved it definitely. But then maybe we have
like another show that's competition show with people that have
like are already in relationship.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well I said that, I've pitched that before, where you
do it a a a couple's competition show. Yeah, but
you know, no one listens to me, not that I know, though,
I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay, So I
think that basically that's basically it. I'm assuming Veteran Nation
is going to release the entire season on YouTube, so
check that out. We will be watching and make sure
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you stay tuned the Bachelor Happy Hour because we have
of new episodes, new recaps every week.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, thank you so much for listening Bye,
Hey, everyone, Welcome back to Bachler Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm Joe and I'm Serena.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We are here to recap a different episode something we've
really never talked about on this podcast, which is Bachelor Pad,
which came out before Bachelor in Paradise, and we're kind
of doing this because we're getting ready for Bachelor in Paradise.
But Bachelor Pad Season three, episode one was just released
on Bachelor Nation's YouTube channel, so we watched it and
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we're going to recap that shit show right now.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
If you are not familiar with Bachelor Pad, because it's
been what like fifteen years since Bachelor Pad was a thing,
there's a couple seasons of it. It took place in
the Bachelor Mansion, similar style to Paradise, where it was
like co ed guys and girls, but it was a
mix of dating and a competition show, so there's different pairs,
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there's competitions like physical challenges that you have to win
and then compete for to get different advantages, and then
the goal at the end was to both hopefully find
a relationship, but even more so to win the cash prize,
which was I believe two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
this season correct.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
So one thing that so obviously Bachelor Pett evolved into
Bachelor in Paradise, which watching bacheler Pet, the first thing
that was kind of like I didn't love was that
they were in the mansion. Still, I like the aesthetic
of like a beach in paradise.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, well, I love the mansion. I think it's so iconic.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
But I think what people forget is on the regular
seasons of The Bachelor and the Bachelrette, you only see
so much of the mansion. It's really just like where
the girls and guys are hanging out and sleeping and
getting date cards, and then you're out and about like
you're on dates with the lead, and then after week
four you're traveling, so like it's not as much as
it's an iconic symbol. It's really just like a big
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part of night one, and then after that you're not
seeing that much of it, seeing a whole season in
the mansion. I think that a setting like a beach
in paradise, like Cabo Costa, Rica is a way better
fit for like a full time show. I agree the
flow of the house. It's also like it's a little dark,
like it's got like that like Spanish influence to it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, it's just a little like it's just it's a
little small. Yeah, so too, you know, And it's not
small obviously for like a family to live there, but
it's like to have.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Like a cast of thirty people film me there twenty
four to seven. I would actually be curious to know
if they were like having challenges with that a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I mean I'm sure, yeah, sure, so we The first
thing we're kind of introduced to is you get the
cast that are they're all coming back, and you have
people like who we know, like Chris Pokowski is kind
of the only one that we personally know.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, Chris Pukowski, who's been on like the most Bachelor
shows ever. Yeah, you're probably familiar with him. He was
on Pair Nice a few times. He came from Emily
Maynard season and he's now with Anna Redmond. Yeah, but
everyone else I was not as familiar with. I mean,
we know Chris personally, I don't know any of the
other cast members, but all from seasons. Just to give
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you a little context, Deanna, Jillian, Harris Ashley, and Emily
Maynard seasons of the Bacherette and then Ben Flanagan, Brad
and Lorenzo's seasons of the Bachelor is what we're pulling
some pulling from. So we're going like very old school
but like kind of like the height of Bachelor stiff.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I would say those the people that make seasons.
I would assume that the people that were on this
season were the most were the fan favorites of their
season of The Bachelor.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Bacherette definitely.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I mean, like, you know, Ed was engaged to Jillian
Harris and it didn't work out, and he's like a
main character in this.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
TV because the guy's just getting wasted running around naked. Yeah,
we don't get to see that stuff anymore totally.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
And then we have Kaylin, who was on Emily Maynard's season.
He was kind of the villain. He called her daughter
baggage and he's like like.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
That, Like that's the thing about like now everyone is
so media trained and social media trained that you will
never see that. Yeah, but like it it's a reminder
of how like funny and raw reality TV was, yeh
be because people were just fucking talking crazy shit.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Oh yeah, Like even this first episode, I couldn't believe
I could believe what they were saying, but I couldn't
believe they were saying it on Bachelor Pad, a show
that has like millions of viewers.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Attacks on like people's just looks.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh, it was constant, just their physical appearance coming for
one another. And I mean, you know they're referencing, Like
you guys have to remember that are listening, Like they're
referencing the tabloids, like that was where things were happening.
There was no social media. So it's like nowadays, you
say something on the show that people don't like, you're
getting attacked in your DMS. They have this direct access
to you. They're picking apart your character, they're picking apart
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everything that you have said, whether they like it or
don't like it. There was no direct access unless you
like ran into these people on the street. So like
you have these people that are villains, you know, like
Blakely talks about like how she wasn't very like like Kaylin.
He's like, yeah, like I called her daughter baggage, and
like I'm standing ten toes down on what I said
and like I'm down to be controversial and not liked
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because like it was just way less of a risk
back then. I really think like social media has elevated
and like decreased the entertainment.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Of reality television.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Like watching this, I was like, wow, like you would
just like Sarafina called Zoe's dress super short and like
we all were up in arms. The stuff people are
saying about each other on this show doesn't even come
close to.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
That, Like, it is way more below the ball.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
This is this is the ship talking that contestants getting
their dm dms from people that watch the show, they
will get this kind of shit said to them.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, but it's different from like, you know, someone in
the house versus like hundreds of strangers who are like
taking it way too far.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah. I just think it's funny because like yeah, like
like that comment from Sarah Fina and I was like,
how could you say that? It's like fucking a ton
of people watching this at home, we're saying shit like that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh yeah, people are saying it on the comfort of
their couch. But then we've got we've got this Bachelor
padcast being like you're ugly and I hate you and
you're stupid and your dress is hideous?
Speaker 2 (06:43):
How could she wear that?
Speaker 3 (06:44):
It's disgusting because ugly and like just like direct comments
on like these people.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Jacquline walked up to.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Blakely.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, David Jaffin walked up to David by the pools, like,
you're to vote me out? I just want to let
you know you're a loser and you're ugly.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Whoa, whoa, it's so crazy about I love it.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Then the second thing they introduced to us is they
are bringing fans of Bachelor onto Bachelor Pad to compete,
which is interesting. Also, the show has to remind us
a million times that, like, the fans love watching the
Bachelor and that they're on the Bachelor. It's like this,
(07:32):
I don't know why the show feels the need to
plug their own show during their show. On a consistent,
fucking basis, everybody is on watching the Bachelor. You don't
have to remind us that there's fans of the fucking show.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
And they call them the fans like that, Like we're
not saying that, Like they call them the fans.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
They call themselves like we are the fans. Like it's
like the.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Contestants and then the fans, even though the fans are competing.
But it's kind of funny because they've cast people that
are obviously good looking, like they look like they could
be on the show, but they're casting people that they
know specifically. These girls are that are gonna like not
keep their cool, like they're not gonna come in and
like act like they've been here before. Like they're coming
in and they're like fanning out over Chris Harrison. They're
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asking for selfies, like they are not acting like, oh,
we're all here as contestants, like we're all here together,
like they're coming and being like, oh my god, this
is my dream.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I can't believe I'm here.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Like, yeah, it's a very distinct line between like who
the fans and who the contestants are.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Definitely, but I also think that was.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Push Oh yeah, I'm sure it was encouraged, like this
is so exciting, you know, we want to see that
you're a fan of this show, like don't be afraid
to like show that. Whereas like if a girl on
Night one did that, like you're gone, You're home, You're
going home immediately, if you walk up to the Bachelor
and you like start fanning out.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah, so yeah, interesting, interesting element to bring fans on,
and it's pretty much an immediate like Okay, there are
people from the show the contestants from prior seasons, and
then there's the fans. We are going to x out
the fans, like immediately you're on, Like I think it's
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like Chris Pucoski's like, you're on our show.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, it's us against them. This girl Rachel is like enough,
I don't want them here. And I mean they've made
it so like there's way more like there's triple the
amount of contestants than there are fans. There's only five
of the fans, so like they've made it very easy.
If the contestants want to pick them off, they can.
And I think even I think it was Rachel who said,
like you didn't get your heartbroken on national television, Like
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you didn't have to go through and we had to
go through to be here, like almost the sense of
like there's an initiation process that you got to skip
and like that's not fair.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Yeah, yeah, very funny. So I kind of I guess,
like my but I like issue with it. If I
were to say I had an issue, is I kind
of like if I want to watch a competition show,
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I want to watch a competition show, and if I
want to watch a show about people falling in love.
I want to watch a show about people falling in
love the hybrid of both of those. As of now,
just watching episode one is like a little confusing because
I'm like still like what are we?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What are we? Is the question? Like what is this?
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Yeah? What am I watching? And it's kind of hard,
like I don't even know. I yet to know, Like
how do you even win? The two? Like I get
that there's competitions.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Well, Like for those listening, the structure from episode one
that's presented is you pair up. You just pick your partner,
like it doesn't even have to be on like if
you're interested in them romantically, you pick a partner. I
think it's you know, girls and guys obviously, and then
there's this competition that happens where they have like these.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Hanging big hearts.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
So we're like still on the theme of love, and
you and your partner have to fit into the heart
and they like tilt them and make it difficult for
you to stay in it, and the person that stays
in the longest wins and you're safe from elimination. So
very like traditional competition structure, like similar to like a
survivor a big brother.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think that they needed to. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
I think they're having a like in episode one, like
it's hard to dictate, like is this like the challenge
where like it's a competition show, but like you also
know that people are going to end up poking up
and getting together just like naturally by having you know,
a bunch of heterosexual men and women in the house together.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, I think that's what they're going for.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, So like we're not so it's not.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So like I would say it's competition show first, dating
show second. Yeah, but they're filtering in this kind of
like dating theme by making like the guys and girls
partner up and pick their partner and doing like the
love themed competition.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, but we're not we're not showcasing on this show.
I don't believe that they're going to be focusing or
showcasing a love story. If anything. They want to see
like people hooking up. Yeah, and arguments from that I'm
assuming from like like we're already seeing it with crys
Pokowski and his partner and he's talking to another girl
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and his partner is upset.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Yeah, Chris Bukowski ends up with Blakelee as a partner
and then like that night, like very soon after he
is chatting with this girl Jamie, they're making out, Blakely's
piss like we're in an immediate love triangle.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Yeah, And it's like, why is Blakely pissed? Well, she's
saying she's pissed because she wants to win the money.
But I would assume she's pissed because maybe she thoughtge thing.
But like that's the thing. You don't you can't like
some of it, Like you can't really tell at least
from episode one, And I think that's my gripe.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Your gripe with that.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah, well I think like let's say, okay, so we
look at like The Challenge, which is a competition reality
show that has like a lot of romantic sideplots, and
then we look get something like leve Island, which is
a romantic dating reality show with competition side plots. And
I think that Bachelor Pad in this first episode hasn't
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exactly figured out which one it is yet, like what
is the focus the competition or the dating?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, and maybe there is when because there was seasons
prior to this, so maybe like people do know, we're
just we just.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Don't probably just yeah, we're just dummies.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah, but also we should add that, you know, these
two fans who partnered up David, and then there's twins
on this who are acting as one person, which I
just can't with twins.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
And everyone the house seems to be really annoyed by
the twins.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
They don't like the twins Eric and Brittany, which makes.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Sense because watching episode one, they come across a little alike.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well, they're already in a disadvantage because they're fans, not contestants,
and then they're saying like, hey, we're one person, Like no,
you're not your two adult, grown women, Like.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Well, but that's but that's also they're being Yeah the.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Show, they've been cast as one person, but yeah, they're
not coming across great David. Eric and Brittany win that
first competition, and their reward, other than being safe, is
they get to go on a date. So I guess
if you're like, if you're partnered with someone and it's
starting to turn into a romance, it's like that additional
incentive like, oh, we'd love to win because we want
to be safe, but also then we get to leave
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the house and go on a date together.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
So what's going to happen when you and your partner win,
but you're cooking up with somebody else so that you
go on a romantic date with your partner.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I don't know, that's kind of like another element
to it. Yeah, I mean I think you just keep
it friendly and you just talk game strategy instead of
getting romantic. But yeah, no, there's definitely like a lot
of potential jealousy that could occur here. I mean we're
already seeing it with Chris and Blakely.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Did you find anyone or did you see anyone on
this first episode that like you were rooting for, because
that was one thing also that I kind of noticed
is Yeah, I would say the Bachelor and The Bachelor
and even Bachelor in Paradise they kind of like they
kind of like showcase like a hero on episode one
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or somebody that like the fans are gonna like, well, they're.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Telling you, like they're giving you clues of like these
are the one or two people that are safe, like
you can like them, like they're they're good, and then
you know you've got like.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
The chaotic evil yea of like these.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Are maybe the villains, but maybe we like them a
little bit, like we've got the Kaitlin of it all,
who's like kind of a little out of the control,
but like he's entertaining. Or Erica Rose, Like Erica Rose
and Kaylin are in this feud because Erica Rose went
to the tabloids about Kaylin and like spoke badly about him.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
They're both great, Like they're great immediately them, Like you
cannot kick one of those two people off from now.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Erica Rose almost gets sent home. So almost got sent home,
and it was like, no, you cannot lose her. She's
doing so much, she's so entertaining.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I would say, Michael Michael got the.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Editor, Yeah, Michael Stagliano.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Of like everyone's gonna like this guy.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, and he has been on Bachelor before. He's the
only like return he won it, so he's kind of
like you're following him through episode one is like Okay,
he knows what he's doing, he's done this before. And
also like everyone seems to really like him.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Yeah, so they should kick him off.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
How do we feel about Okay, so something we got
to talk about. Like Chris Harrison comes in and you know,
he talks to everyone in the room, and like this
guy ad from Chicago can't even sit and listen. He's
so fucked up. He's jumping in and out of the pool.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, he's in like little white tidy whities.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Which like there's a girl like we don't care how
big your dick.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Is, Like put some pants on and sober up. That
was funny. I think that was Jamie.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That that was a wild time for reality TV. I forget,
like like I was like, all right, like like I
feel socially awkward. This is intense and intimidating. I need
a drink to you know, calm down. Yeah, yeah, get
rid of the edge. But like I'm probably gonna like
(17:15):
and then everyone's gonna be kind of doing well, that's.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
What it is. It's everyone. I mean Ed's gone above
and beyond.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Like everyone is clearly in their interviews by the end
of the night like they're drunk, Like they are doing
interviews absolutely drunk. They are sloppy, they're slurring their words.
But Ed is like on another level, like he's so hammered.
He's literally out in the pool. Well, Chris Heireus' is like, man,
we're trying to film a scene. Like I'm trying to
explain to you literally what show you're on. And like
he's just not even there. I don't know, it's it's
(17:44):
just a different time. But I also think like social
media plays a role into it too. I don't know
if you would see as many people because like, look,
it's all young, attractive, single people that are like, I've
got an open bar and a gorgeous mansion. I'm just
here to have a good time. Like I'm young and
I'm just like looking a party. I think social media
makes people like just more conscious. I don't think I
(18:05):
don't know if we can see as many people getting
as drunk as we used to.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well. I also it also has to do with like
the show, right, Like it's kind of been proven over
the history of The Bachelor with social media that the
contestants that do well after the show, and what I
mean by do well is like you know, get a
lot of like love and grow social media following. Those
(18:33):
people are characterized on the show as very nice, either
heartbroken or end up in love. Yeah, anyone that's like
going on the show like for a good time to
get fucked up, which is what all these people are.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Doing and like shamelessly.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, Like and that's that's like the biggest difference yeah,
and it's kind of fun. Like it's so it's like
refreshing after watching so many seasons of of kind of
the same thing.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Well, it's also like as viewers, we watch reality because it's.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Not that serious, you know, it's fun. And I mean
I think Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And Bachelott definitely have more of a serious tone to them,
and that's to be expected. But like Paradise, I feel
like there's been a bit of a struggle of it's
like Paradise is not that serious, like, yeah, you want
to find love, you want to find a relationship, but
it's meant to be this like fun, young, beachy show.
And I think that we've kind of lost that tone
(19:35):
of like guys, like, don't stop taking yourself so serious,
Like this is meant to be fun, And it like
translates as a viewer watching Paradise versus watching Bachelor Pad.
Like Bachelor Pad, they're like, yeah, it is meant to
be fun, Like we're literally just here to have a
good time.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, And it was also a different time, like, like
I would say, drinking culture was totally that. This was
still a time where you would go to bars in
Chicago and be able to smoke cigarettes in there.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
What's crazy too is like nowadays, obviously it's no secret,
like a lot of people from the show have other opportunities,
become influencers, become entrepreneurs. These are people that had like
full corporate jobs that were going to act this way
on national television like just hammered swimming in the pool,
getting yelled at my Chris Harrison and then go.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Back to work.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, like that is a whole other thing I did
even think about.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I would say there was a lot of people that
probably got fired weren't able to go back to work
after this. Like Ad was a Chicago fireman, so it
was probably he was probably like celebrated.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Like you have like go like I guess it depends
on like what jobs had to Sure.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Yeah, but if you're in like banking and like finance,
like you're getting fired, Yeah, you're not going back to that.
If you're in you know, cosmetics, cosmetic surgery or you
know you're doing that, I think you're fine. I like
your example, Yeah, firemen and cosmetics, like you're good offing.
Anyone's gonna fire you for that.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
So getting back into the competition element, they are essentially
going to be voting each other out.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Is the structure.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yes, so this is now based on like the contestants
against the fans. They're kind of like, hey, we have
more of a right to be here than you guys
coming in as a fan, Like you have an easy
target on your back, let's pick them off. But then
we've also got David, who is one of the fans
who's safe because he want the competition, is aggressively trying
to vote Eric Rose.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I'm not really sure why was there like a specific reason.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Well, I think it's read so if you if you
win the competition, if you you're on the team that
wins the competition, you are safe, Yes, if you are
if you come if you're out first, you automatically have
a vote against right. So I think he saw that
and instantly ran his mouth, which on any competition show,
(22:01):
at the beginning of the show, you need to be
under the radar, especially if you're coming in as an outcast.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah. Well, because so Erica Rose and her partner Nick
were the first out of the competition, so they automatically
had a vote against them, and I think that's where
David was like, well, let's just vote them out.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
They already have a vote against them.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
The thing is it didn't work as much as you know,
we had David petitioning for it, and then we had
Read and Kaylin just straight up lying to Erica Rose's
space and scheming behind her back, being like we're sending
her homes.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
So now, unfortunately eric Rose is still in the house
and she hates David and now she's coming for him
next week, which is the fun of a competition show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
I also feel like there was, yeah, there was there
had to be an element amongst producers and even castmates
of like we still want like to make good television
and Erica Rose right now is our top gun, Like
is she is the TV maker out of this group?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
She especially the girls more low key girl, she cannot
n go home.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Well, it's also like like we don't really think this
is more this way that much on our show, but
like I'm assuming at this time it was like if
eric Carros goes home, we have to start doing shit
and we have to step it up, but we have
to start making TV. Why wouldn't we keep her around
when she's doing so much?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
But I do think a lot of these people, I
think it's pretty easy for them to make TV because
A they're drunk and be everyone really like doesn't seem
to care that much, which is great. Yeah, I do.
I do really like the element. The one thing I
do like is I enjoy enjoy watching like the scheming
and then like, Okay, we got this person's vault, this
person's well, we see.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Read and Kaylin.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
No her name, was reading Page trying to figure out
like to keep her on the show.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yes, because they were partners for the challenge, and honestly,
Page is a fan. She ends up going home and
Chris was the other fan. He ended up going home.
But Page was really nice and I thought it was
sweet that Reid was like, hey, I like her. We
were in this challenge together, Like I'm gonna fight for
her to stay.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well, that's the part that I love because now what
you're gonna get or is you're gonna get people falling
for each other, and then you're gonna get somebody that
may have fallen for you who's jealous of the situation.
They're gonna vote that person. So now the stakes are
even higher because not only do you want to win
the money, you also want your connection, yeah, to stay.
And then when people start like fucking with you that way.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Well, for example, we've got the love try and go
with Chris, Blakelee, and Jamie going on Blakely. If I'm her,
I'm gunning for Jamie now because not only is Blakely like,
you're distracting my partner, it seems like she kind of
has a crush on Chris and is like, well, maybe
if I get Jamie out of the way, I can
shoot my shot here.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Do you do you think they should do? Like you
have to go home as a team, Like I kind
of think.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, I'm wondering if the partners switch up.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Oh maybe you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Like, I'm wondering if they want the partners to switch up,
because if you go home as a team, then it's
never gonna change where I think the hope is probably
like there's an opportunity for like, oh, I'm with this person,
but I'm crushing on this person, so like I'm going
to ditch them because they're pissing me off and go
like team up with them.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
There's a lot of movie pieces.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
There's a lot of movie pieces. There's a lot of
potential messiness, which I think is good.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, I would like you need to watch.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Like another episode or two. I feel like to like
really get locked in on the format.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, or give me at the beginning of the show,
give me like a grid or like a bracket system
of how this tournament works, Like, give me, I want
that in all competition shows, like I'm want.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Maybe not on the show, but like yeah, like on
their website, there needs to be like a rules tab
so you guys can just go and be like okay,
like what But then at the same time, you know
that there's going to be like twists and turns and
things that they throw at them.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
That's fine. But if the first time I ever played Monopoly,
I need to read the rules, yeah, okay, yeah, and
if I'm watching people play Monopoly, which would be boring.
But if I decided that I want to sit there
for my entertainment and watch people play Monopoly, I still
need to know the rules of the game. It's going
to be interesting. For like, comparing this now to what
(26:23):
we are about to watch with Bachelor of Paradise, well.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Are like theory is it's not a coincidence that Bachelor
is releasing this episode and highlighting Bachelor pad on the
You know, we said you can watch this episode of
Bachler Pad on the Bachelor Nation YouTube, which we encourage
you to do.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
It is a fun watch.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
I don't know if it's like timing, is a coincidence
that they're releasing this and they're encouraging people to watch
it kind of a month or two before Paradise comes out.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I'm wondering if.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
They're going to be bringing some of these elements back
because like my questions like why now, Like why are
we circling back to Bachelor Pad now?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, I mean I think I think we are. I
think that's exactly what's happening. I think we're right who
watching this episode one? Do you have your favorites? Like
who is your favorite?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Well, it's kind of I mean, like taking Chris out
of it because obviously we know him personally, so we're
a little biased there. I mean I like Kaylin and
I like Erica Rose. I just think they're both like
very chaotic. They're gonna stir things up. They're like you know,
people that you like love to hate, hate to love.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I also like Read because he's not scared to get
it done, Like he's he's going out there, he's making
he's confident.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, he's making moves. I like read too.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
He he's showing confidence, he's making moves, which is exactly
what he just said, and I'm just repeating it, but
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I did like that girl Page who was the fan.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, she was sweet and she they they made
her look really nice. It was that. Yeah, I thought
she was actually gonna make it.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But I like this Jacqueline Blakelee Dynamic. I think that's fun.
I like Ed as much as he's kind of a
mess and someone that like. He'll either get it together
and you'll end up being like this guy's fun and
I like him, or he won't and you'll be like, Okay,
it's time for him to go home.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well, I'm assuming ad was a was the biggest fan
favorite on the show.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Well he ended up with Gillian Harris yet, but I
don't think he was a fan favorite because I believe
in his package. He said that there was a bunch
of rumors that he was caught out with like other girls.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well that's what he said. He's like, there was there
was cheating rumors, Yeah, which like not deny on that?
Did your hear?
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like no, I miss that.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
I mean I heard the like yeah, like the cheating
rumors and stuff. I didn't hear him say that, yeah,
not denying.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
That, Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
At the beginning, he's like, yeah, I know a lot
of you read the tabloids and the tabloids when just
the word tabloid just sounds I love that so.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Old, I know.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
But you know what's crazy is like it wasn't that
long ago, Like it really was like fifteen twenty years ago.
Think about how much things have evolved in a short
period of time when it comes to like media, entertainment, news.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You want to know what's even You want to know
what's even crazier is when this show came out. I
don't know what year it was, but there is a
really good chance that the iPhone wasn't out yet, like
or it might have been like early stages. It might
have been like iPhone one.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
You might be right.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Let's see what year, yeah, came out Bachelor Pad season three,
twenty ten. Okay, what year was the iPhone released? Two
thousand and seven? Okay, so the iPhone was out, but yeah,
still still early.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, pretty crazy but entertaining episode overall. I enjoyed it.
Would you watch episode two?
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I would watch episode two more joke, because I feel
like they like do a good job of like lighting
a few fires in episode one. You kind of have
a general idea of the plot, the competition, but also
there's like room to learn more, Like you leave with
questions and curiosity.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
I feel like it was good. I feel like Bachelor Pad.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Was maybe like ahead of its time, Like I feel
like if they'd stuck with it and maybe just like
pivoted a few.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Things, I'm actually watching it, I'm actually surprised that they
ever they have they ever made the change from Bachelor
Pad to Paradise.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Well, I could see them changing locations obviously, like we
talked about in the beginning. I don't know if the
mansion is like a fit for this style, but I
am surprised that they cut the competition element format. And
I feel like, you know, Bachelor Universe is based on
finding love, right, Like that's the core value, and I
can understand maybe why they wanted to circle back to that.
But we've always said, like there's so much opportunity for
(30:52):
like spinoff shows within the franchise with alumni, with potential
competition shows, and I feel like Bachelor Pad like there's
a place for that yeah, still to this day.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Well, but I also think like Bachelor and Paradise was
a way for the franchise to gain successful couples, right,
they have successful numbers because I think, well.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And I guess that's what it went back to, is
like this franchise is based off having successful, long lasting
love stories and they weren't going to get that from
Bachelor pat Like they needed a Paradise, which honestly has
produced so many couples. So if that was their goal,
like they've achieved it definitely. But then maybe we have
like another show that's competition show with people that have
like are already in relationship.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well I said that, I've pitched that before, where you
do it a a a couple's competition show. Yeah, but
you know, no one listens to me, not that I know, though,
I don't know what I'm talking about. Okay, So I
think that basically that's basically it. I'm assuming Veteran Nation
is going to release the entire season on YouTube, so
check that out. We will be watching and make sure
(31:57):
you stay tuned the Bachelor Happy Hour because we have
of new episodes, new recaps every week.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Yeah, thank you so much for listening Bye,
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