July 11, 2025 • 32 mins
Today on “Golden Hour,” we’re diving into more of your questions before our ladies set sail on their bestie cruise! We got so many write-ins about plastic surgery, worrisome desires among young women, and much more, so we had to dish out our advice before the big trip! We kick things off by addressing some online chatter Kathy and Susan have heard: What’s up with their friendship? Then, we get started with the question of the day: What advice do you have for women ages 18 to 21 who want plastic surgery? Next, we answer questions about tweens trying to anti-age and a 20-year-old with a face-lift fund. We’re tackling social media beauty standards, addressing insecurities, and so much more. Plus, we end this episode with rapid-fire advice: What are Kathy and Susan’s beauty tips? How do you know if you’re getting plastic surgery for the right reasons? Tune in now to hear all this and be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us. We are so excited to be back today.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely. I miss you, Kathy.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We're going to be together soon.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know it has been so long since we've caught up.
Let's start first. You just got back from Saint Martin again.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
How how was it?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It was fabulous. Actually, my girlfriend and her husband joined us,
so that was a lot of fun. We were I
feel like you need a vacation from a vacation. You know,
when you have guests, you just take them everywhere.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's like, so I wouldn't I wouldn't know about a
vacation from a vacation.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Everybody has been saying that you and I on social media,
that we're not friends anymore, that where have I been?
Where have you been? Why aren't we together? Here's the thing.
I have been busy out of town. Susan has been
busy out of town. We are getting ready to take
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a two week cruise. You're going to see more of
us on social media than you ever wanted. You know,
when they say be careful what you ask for?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, right? I have been trying to answer so many fans,
what did you do dump Kathy for your boyfriend? I'm like,
are you serious right now? And I'm trying to answer them.
We will be together soon. Just stay tuned. If you
listen to our podcast, you will You're sure there's no
divorce happening here. Kathy and I will be going to Istanbul,
(01:34):
Turkey as well as the Greek Islands.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yep, You're going to see more of us on social
media than you ever wanted to, so there is no
feud here.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
There's nothing. I love for the pieces.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And two we just can't wait to get on our cruise.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Absolutely. And today, of course we're going to be answering
more of our fan questions. Hopefully one of them will
be about that. Kathy, And make sure you're submitting because
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(02:09):
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Speaker 1 (02:10):
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Speaker 2 (02:21):
You sure can do. Okay, you ready, time to get
into the episode. Let's start with the question of the day. Oh,
here we go, Here we go. What are your thoughts
on plastic surgery for people that are younger, example eighteen
to twenty one? What advice would you give to young
women that are considering some form of work?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh, I got the answer on this one.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I dont remind they're young.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That's my point.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I think, unless you know, I have a lot of
friends who had we call them nose jobs, deviated sept
when they were in high school. And you know, that's
one thing I think. But if you're talking about plastic surgery,
breast enhancement, or even frankly, tattoos and stuff, once you
do that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's not plastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, okay, it's I mean, all right, so let's just
focus on that. But if you have breast enhancement or
you know, something to change permanently, change your face or
your body before you really have time to settle in
to your own body, I think it's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
What about Kathy, what came to mind for me? Injections,
boat toks, things like this.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I think it's too young.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think twenty one I can't imagine you haven't rinkles
number one.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, I think I had a few. No, But here's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Your your face is changing, your your You're not fully developed.
I mean truly, I think like I've had friends who
had breast reduction done as teenagers. I mean that I
think is something different. But in terms of having injections,
which again is not plastic surgery, but you know, having
your eyes done, or your lips filled, or breast in hand,
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I just can't imagine it at that age.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well, I know of people that are twenty one years
old and their breast, like you said, a reduction, if
that's necessary then by all means yeah. And if you
were so flat chested and you wanted a little something
at twenty one years old, you're able to make up
your own mind. I don't have a problem with it.
I do, however, have a problem with wanting a facelift
or something twenty yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean, I just I think the problem here is,
like many things, is the overflow of social media. People
girls and young women look at themselves and they compare
themselves to air brushing, to you know, things that just
aren't reality, and they and they want that and I
think that's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Speaking of air brushing, Kathy, I wish I knew how
to do it, because I've looked really good these crospy
and do you know people on social media and I'm
talking to you guys out there that write these comments
when I'm taking a selfie or something out in the sun.
My crow speed are pretty prominent. And yes I get botox,
but it's not a miracle. Why are you so criticizing?
(05:17):
I mean, why do you say such negative things? I
am human, I'm sixty eight years old, I have crowsfeed.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I think you look beautiful, I think, but I think
that's what I'm saying. It's indemnic. Social media has given
everyone a platform to say and do whatever they want.
So that's half of the problem. People have no compunction.
They just think they can say in whatever they want.
That's the first problem. But I think the bigger issue
(05:45):
is young people are not They don't know what's real anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They see these models on social media that have had
literally airbrushing, the tricks that you can do with photography now,
they're not real. So when I want to see real, well,
but the problem is some of these young women I
think think that that is real when it really is.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, do you remember when we were growing up, so
many times when you were real Yeah, Twiggy, everybody had
to be bone thin, which fortunately I was blessed because
I used to have to drink protein drinks the game
weight I was bone.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I never had that problem.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I had boobs, I mean, they weren't in style then
and I had them right, But I wasn't about to
go to the plastic surgeon at twenty one years old.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No. I mean I my daughter, who now is you know,
mother and well into her thirties. I don't think that
she ever thought about it, commented on it. Like I said,
I had friends growing up who didn't like their noses,
that they had a big bum.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And I don't understand the those things if you're born
with this thing, all mean, I just.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Think, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I just think that I wish young women. My message
to young women today is enjoy the body you have.
If you breathe and you're healthy and you're strong, that
is so much more important. I mean, it's I think
it sometimes falls on deaf ears, but I just think
having a healthy body that supports you or so much
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more important.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Or wait till the eyes are hooded and then by
all means fix them. At twenty one years old, you
don't have hoo.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I was just going to say, did you have?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I mean I was very overweight at twenty one and
I also had big boobs, but I didn't get them
reduced until after I had my three.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Kids, after kids, after I had my kids.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But you know what I think.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think, young ladies, if you're listening, give yourself a
chance to fall in love with the person you were
born to be instead of trying to change yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Especially in today's world, everything is accepted big people, skinny people.
I mean, does it matter big butts are in you
know what I mean, everything goes so be okay with
who you are. But I am one with plastic surgery
when it's time, when you need it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I mean, I have had a few things done myself,
and you know, people say to me all the time,
why do you admit to it?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And you know what I say, why not?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I have people say to me, I thought you had
work done. Look at your face. I'm like, are you serious?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
You know what says and you don't. Let don't let
them get to you. Yes, be the nice person you are.
It'll all turn out, all right.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
We're going to move into our fan question.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Oh I love this part.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay, I love it. All right, I'm going to start
us off here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
All right, Hi, ladies, I love your podcast, and I
was really hoping to get your advice. My daughter is
thirteen years old, and it's already so worried about her appearance.
I expected this, as the tween years are really tough,
and I figured she'd have a similar struggle as we
all do, carving out who we are at such a
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young age. However, it's way worse than I thought. She's
asking me for retinoal creams. She recently spent all her
babysitting money on skincare products for anti aging.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's nuts.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Thankfully, she listened to me about the products and now
asked me before buying so they don't hurt her face.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But I know that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I've tried to be as involved as I can be
when it comes to what she consumes online, but I
know this is something going on with all of her friends.
I've talked to the other parents and we're all at
a loss on what to do to get these girls
to stop worried about anti aging, how they look, having
perfect skin, et cetera. I want to know what you
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would say to her if you were in my shoes,
so I can see if I'm seen anything when I
talk to her.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Thanks, ladies, you know it's.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Funny I could relate. My granddaughter will be thirteen this year,
and for Christmas, she wanted products for her face. I
sat her down and said, don't think you have to
buy everything that you see. Here's the deal. Always use
a moisturizer, Always use an I cream that you can
do now. You don't need retinols. And she doesn't have
(10:27):
acne or anything like that. If the child had acne,
then yes, you address it with certain cres.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, So you and I are kind of on the
same patrio. What I would do in answer to your
question is I would take her to a place like,
you know, a store, a drug store or so for
something like that, and I would say using clean products
like I would try to educate her on clean things
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and so clean products so that she's not worried about
retinol and explain to her that that's something for people
of wrinkles. And I would talk to her this is
a great opportunity to talk about the evils of social
media and that her face is beautiful. But at the
same time, you're never too young to teach to learn
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about good healthcare. So using some natural cleaners and some
natural stringents and whatever products that is appropriate for a teenager.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So that's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I would take care of Brittany to the clinic counter.
It was the least expensive and it was a clean product,
and let that lady teach her rite what it is.
And she was young and she got it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I think, I think it's I think if you acknowledge
that young girls today are very interested in physical appearance,
and maybe too much so, but.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And taking care of them, and that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Focus on healthy skincare as opposed to changing the appearance
if you will, So.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I wash your face, that's important.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Teach those kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And if she wants to use a light lipstick or something,
the minute you say no, yeah, like gloss, the minute
you say no, it's the forbidden fruits.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And social media shows us everything.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But Susan, don't they. I mean, I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
My daughter's older now, but I know that they make
lots of clean products for for young girls today. Focus
on that and don't worry about I mean retinal.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You know, tell her it's a prescription.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Heard retinal on the internet. I'm sure you know.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And I would I think, of course, you know, I
always wanted to make a joke. I mean, I have
to be honest when I read this anti aging, to this,
to this listener. I mean at thirteen, I would, I
kind of would have to make a joke about it
with my daughter and say, anti aging. If you get
any younger, you'll be back in my stomach. You know
how much younger do you want to be.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't think I was worried about skincare thy. Times
have changed, though time.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
So I did.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I remember at thirteen and when I started my period,
I got the.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
First bits of God.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, every month, every month, that was a curse.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And now look at us filled with wrinkles. But we
wish you all good luck.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We talk to her, educate her in the way that
she should be, and retinals will happen in her life.
Just don't rush it.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, And you know what else, I just had one
more thought. You know what else you.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Could do for a treat for her birthday? Maybe give
her a facial where a third, you know, the facialists
could talk to her about skincare and maybe buy her
a couple of products there that are clean products. I
think sometimes if they have something to focus on and
feel like they're making a difference in their face, they
won't be saying, you know, I want.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
A new kid cleansing cream cream.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, it's all you need.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Don't you wish those days for back for us, Susan,
don't My cupboards are for flowing.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And sunscreen? Teach her about sunscreen. Yeah, I waited half
my life, well three quarters of my life, and I
am faithful.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Wait, wait, Susan, little late, Susan, you had to go there,
didn't you.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Susan.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Mike was in Saint Martin and just got back and
I said to her, your face, Susan, put sunscreen on.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
She goes, I put it on in the morning.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Listen, everyone out there, sunscreen needs to be reapplied every
hour to two hours. You cannot put it on in.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
The morning, back on after I get out of the water.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, well that's great if you're supposed to just disappear
in an hour. Yeah, it just absorbs into your skin.
It doesn't it's not effective. So my PSA for the
day is use reapply your sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Reapply, re apply. Alright, moving on, thanks for writing in Okay,
next one. Hi, ladies, I'm worried about my roommate and
I need help on how to talk to her. We're
both in college and are very lucky to say that
our families are blessed. My roommate, let's call her Kelly,
and I support support it by our parents. So any
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money we make from jobs and internships is solely our
fun money. Here's the problem. I noticed recently that Kelly
has been putting her money in a facelift fun Oh well, buddy,
I have an envelope with that a facelift. We're twenty.
She's gotten things like lip filler or chin filler in
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the past, and I've never thought much of it. I've
never been the type to have a strong opinion on
work plastic surgery wise, especially when it comes to other people.
That's not my business, smart girl, But Kelly is one
of my closest friends and I owe it to her
to look out for her when I see something that
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worries me. But how do I bring this up to her?
I talked to my mom, and she told me it
would probably be really hard for her to find someone
willing to give a twenty year old a facelift. But
I want to know why she even feels the need
to get one. That's where the problem is for me.
What do you think? Thank you so much? May I
(16:14):
put my two cents in here? Really quick? Think about
what you're telling us. She has a fun facelift. It's
going to take her from twenty to fifty to save
enough money, so let that fun be. It doesn't mean
she's going to use it right now.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Well, I agree with that, but I think the bigger
issue here. I mean, yes, technically your correct sings, yes,
but the fact that a twenty year old is not
saving for a fancy handbag or a trip to Paris
to go up the Eiffel Tower, but instead it's saving
for a facelift is cause for concern. So and by
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the way, uh, you can always find a doctor willing
to do anything.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So she's already had lip filler.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And I think you know you have to talk to
your friend kind of the way Susan and I are
talking on this podcast. You have to talk to your
friend about the evils. If you will of social media
and how what you see a lot of times it's
airbrushed and people don't really look like that, and they
have makeup artists who know how to make them look
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twenty years younger.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Just have the conversation with her.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
But you know what, I'm guessing this girl just wild
guests here, has some self esteem issues and she you know,
doesn't like her eyes or it doesn't like her nose
and thinks that if she could change it, her life
would magically be different.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And you know what, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
As well as they don't realize it is not a miracle.
When we go under the knife, we're thinking we're going
to come out. It's not true. It's a little tweak,
it's a little this, and it does look a little better,
especially at our age, but it's not the end all.
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It's not like you were twenty again.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But see, that's what I'm saying. I don't think. I
don't think this is about a tweak or anything else.
I think this girl, I don't know because we don't
have enough information here, but I'm guessing she I'm making
it up now. She does her eyes are too close
together or too far apart. Her nose is too big
or too small, her chin sticks out too much or
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not enough.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Her ships are too thin.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I'm saying her lips are too thin.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Whatever it is, she's not happy with herself, and that
is a bigger issue. Then can she save enough for
a facelift? I think the bigger issue here is learning
to accept the person she is and love herself.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Because I agree, I agree, but I still don't think
anything's wrong with having a fun that you're going to save.
It takes a long time to save her something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I totally disagree. I think there is something wrong with it.
A young girl who starts a facelift fund at twenty
years old, I think there's something else going on. And
you're saying that Susan at sixty eight, that you wished
you had.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I had these envelopes all my life, new shoes, like
I would put money aside for things that I knew
I was gonna want, or whether that's.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Shoes, that's what.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, now we're talking a new outfit, shoes, a fancy
designer handbag, not a facelift to twenty years old. If
you did you really have a facelift envelope at twenty.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Uh, no, but I had a separate envelope first cousinic. Yeah,
but that's different when it was time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
All right, Well, I think I think you're a great
friend who you don't have your name here, but I
think you should try to talk to Kelly, your roommate,
and get her to really look examine why she wants
a facelift.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Just save it for ask her. I see you have
this facelift fund. Do you plan on doing that soon
or you just prep piring for the future when you're
fifteen or sixty.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And by the way, if you could talk your roommate
into giving up the fund and she'd like to share
it with Susan and me, we could we could put
that money to you right now. All right, we are
gonna move into a segment that we call rapid fire advice.
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It's confidence and it's tips and tricks. So instead of
a game, that's what we're gonna do, all things confidence appearance.
We're gonna switch off reading the prompts. We're gonna both
give our advice and here we go. Give us your tips,
tricks and advice on your ray.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Susan, yes, make up?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
What are your go to beauty hacks that you've always.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Used forever in a day, my eyeliner, pencil and mascara
two biggest things.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, mind that I just actually recently learned because makeup
has changed so much recently.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I got gifted.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
A blush that doubles as a lipstick shadow too. Yeah,
so that is my hack. If you're traveling the you know,
the fewer products you can take, the better. And so
I love a good crayon stick that is a blush,
a lipstick, and an eyeshadow.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Go for it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Okay, Kathy, you're not going to like this one. How
do you find what clothes work best for you?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I call Susan.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
No, actually, I have to tell you from people.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
But here's the thing. I took an extended vacation here
and I went shopping to buy clothes, and I really
found out after trying on a.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Million things, I now have learned.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And so here's my tip to anyone who's not sure
what looks good on them. Because Susan it was a chopoholic.
She knows what she likes and she goes and buy.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I have learned how to shop, and here's what I've learned.
Try on a style that you don't think. For example,
I don't look good in things that have a built
in waist because I don't have a wist. But I've
tried enough things on that now I know a straight
silhouette looks best on me. I can wear a short dress,
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I can wear a MIDI I can wear a long.
My arms are decent, so I can go strapless. It
takes trying on, right, would you agree?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
How do you find out? That's how you find out? Yeah,
and try it on and then and take a picture
of yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, and then stay away.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Then, Like when I went shopping, I was in a
department store and this shopper was helping me buy stuff,
and she kept bringing out dresses that had a waist,
and I said, Nope, they don't look good on me.
And so I realized that now I know, I don't
have to waste time trying on stuff that already know
it's not going to look good on me. All right,
here's the next one, overcoming insecurities. What's something you were
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insecure about when you were young and how did you
overcome it?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I mean, I hate given that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
They were talking about plastic surgery, I was really insecure
about my overly big boobs and how to overcome it.
When after I had three children i was forty years old,
I had them taken down to size.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I'm insecure when I was young. I can't put anything
out not being the best at something which carried my
whole life, like when I was a cheerleader or a
gymnast or anything. Of being able to be myself in
front of guys when you're hanging out, you know, things
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like that.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, I think my best advice to anyone who has insecurities,
especially when you're in those teenage years going off to college,
all those those first.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
When you're younger.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I try to remember, and I told my kids this,
everyone's feeling the way you are when you walk on
For example, when you walk on campus the first year
as a freshman, you're scared to death. Guess what everyone
else is feeling insecure is scared, So try to remember
you're not in it alone. You know, if you're not
the best, whatever, guess what somebody else is thinking the
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same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
They're not the best. So just just fake it till
you make it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Hey, that's my motto. The awkwardness of puberty. How did
you handle puberty? When you went through it and when
your kids went through it. Oh man, oh, Mandy. I
might remember I was the only one that didn't have
a hair under my arm or my.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So I for me was a little different. I had
that were I had four sisters. I was the youngest
of the girls.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yes, that was easier for you, well and yes and no.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I was watching them and then so as it happened
to me, I sort of had a little view into
the future. But I remember, gosh, starting my period, I
thought that was, you know, the best thing since sliced bread,
until I realized what it meant. But I think when
(25:27):
my kids went through it, I remember so my parents.
I grew up in a generation where people didn't talk
about puberty. I did with my kids, did you most definitely?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
So I talked to them about the changes that were
going to happen. And I don't think it's ever enough.
I think sometimes kids don't want to hear it from
their parents. They want to hear it from their friends,
which is unfortunate because you get, you know, some bad
advice that way.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But I have to know, did you ever come home? Well,
you had older siblings, but mommy, where did the babies
come out. My mother used to say, down there, Kathy,
I thought you booped them out for half my life?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's all she would say.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Down there.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Now, my children they do everything. I spelled everything.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Oh so did I.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And we didn't use silly little words like you know, pep,
and we said penis vagina.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
We used the right words.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I can remember my my we called it a period,
my mother law. My mother called an ant flow. I
remember the first time's about Aunt Floy went.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Who do you have your friend? As your friend visited?
This is not my friend. This is a bleeding vagina.
I would not call it a friend.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
But isn't it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Weird that every yeah, everything, I don't I think.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I think the generations. You know, my daughter does not
use silly little words for her, you know, her daughter's
body parts. We call it what it is. But I
just remember thinking we grew up at that time. No, seriously, yes,
god right, here's the next one. Plastic surgery. How do
(27:08):
you just it's all about plastic surgery, ditasies and I
have I have a I have a a consultation for
a facelift. By the way, Okay, how do you decipher
if you're getting something done for you. Oh this is
a good one because I know the answer to this
one for me. Okay, how do you decipher if you're
getting something done for you versus feeling the compulsion to
(27:30):
quote fix something that is doing it for the wrong reasons?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I know, I get something done for me. It's me
in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I mean, so, I.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Think if you're fixing something again, you know, having big
boobs wanted to there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I think the danger is, well, what would.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Be the wrong reason to please a man?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Say? Yeah, let's say I wanted you know, oh, I
want you to put new cheekbones in me because my cheekbone,
and that, to me is the wrong reason I want.
I want people to love who they are. It's you know,
and accept who they are. And then if you want
to enhance, as it goes south, you tweak it, yeah,
but not remaking your body. So my advice to you
(28:15):
is what Susan just said, take a long look in
the mirror and realize that you are made the way
you're made. I know it sounds ridiculous, but you should
be happy if you're healthy. I mean, of course, you
know we're going to get a lot of things. Well,
why aren't you happy aging? I am happy aging, but
I feel better when I tweak it. Yeah, so you're right,
(28:37):
you know what insecurities when dating? How do you navigate
having your own personal insecurities while dating and not letting
them meddle in your relationship? Well?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Who's them?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
First of all, I'm guessing friends, parents.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Whoever, how do you navigate having your own personal purities
while dating and not letting them meddle in your relationship?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So let's say with you and Frederic, Uh, you don't
want you know, if you feel insecure.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And you know you could project that you could be you
don't want to project it and you.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Don't want to be in that jo. So what do
you do? What's your advice on that one?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I see? For me, I gotta be true to myself.
It's always being true to myself. If I get a
little jealous, I don't want it to be known.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That's something I would keep in.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You really, Yes, you wouldn't say to Frederic, hey I'm
feeling insecure about today.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I would, But when I was young.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Never, Well I don't think this is necessarily young. I
think it's just when you're dating. I don't know. I
wish people were more honest in their dating relationships and
said how how they feel, how someone else's actions, your
partner's actions makes you feel.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I wish we could do that more.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And you you don't say you made me feel You
say I feel like this when exactly? And I think
that's maturity that we're learning.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Well, you know what, for all the younger people listening today,
it's there's nothing wrong in if you're feeling insecure. There's
nothing wrong in telling your partner how you feel insecure
and how he or she could make you feel.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Nothing wrong with.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
The sooner you do it, the better you feel. And
insecurities and friendships, that's sex, right.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, Susan, I haven't heard from you in weeks. I'm
feeling very that's lying.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
You navigate your own personal insecurities while being friends with
other women. If you find yourself feeling jealous when your
bestie gets hit on and you don't, where do you
go from there? I can say I'm jealous, I would
say envious. I'm so happy for you. When's it my turn?
You know?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I do think that sometimes friendships get women at any age.
I think you and I've seen this action from being
on the show. Get insecure about friend. Well, you talked
to this one more than that one. I don't know,
Get over it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
He's given her more attention. Well, obviously there's some chemistry there.
If there's not here, then don't try wish for something
that you really don't even want. You know, a lot
of people will go out of their way to get
that attention, yet they're really not interested in that person.
It's just for the attention. Don't waste your time, all right,
(31:35):
this was so.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Much fun, it really was. Thank you to our listeners
for joining in. We hope we gave you some good
advice today.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Absolutely, and if these are great with us, let us know.
And if you disagree, we're interested in that as well.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But let me just say, I know we're going to
take some heat on this whole plastic surgery thing. I
think I think the biggest thing here is being old enough.
As we've talked through this podcast, I think the biggest
thing is being old enough to make an informed decision.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
And pay for it, and pay for it.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Does that as.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well as you're doing it for the right reasons, you're
doing it because it's going to make you feel better, yeah,
you know, and not to attract a guy when you're no,
they don't even notice him at the time. Okay, everybody,
make sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour. As
you know, we have a lot more to say, new
episodes coming out every week.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Every week, and make sure to submit your questions to ask.
All you have to do is go to bachelornation dot com,
slash Golden Hour, or dm us on Instagram at Bachelor
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Speaker 2 (32:44):
And listen to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour and the
iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. Thanks again,
have a great week.
Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thanks for
joining us. We are so excited to be back today.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely. I miss you, Kathy.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
We're going to be together soon.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I know it has been so long since we've caught up.
Let's start first. You just got back from Saint Martin again.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
How how was it?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
It was fabulous. Actually, my girlfriend and her husband joined us,
so that was a lot of fun. We were I
feel like you need a vacation from a vacation. You know,
when you have guests, you just take them everywhere.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's like, so I wouldn't I wouldn't know about a
vacation from a vacation.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Everybody has been saying that you and I on social media,
that we're not friends anymore, that where have I been?
Where have you been? Why aren't we together? Here's the thing.
I have been busy out of town. Susan has been
busy out of town. We are getting ready to take
(01:03):
a two week cruise. You're going to see more of
us on social media than you ever wanted. You know,
when they say be careful what you ask for?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yes, right? I have been trying to answer so many fans,
what did you do dump Kathy for your boyfriend? I'm like,
are you serious right now? And I'm trying to answer them.
We will be together soon. Just stay tuned. If you
listen to our podcast, you will You're sure there's no
divorce happening here. Kathy and I will be going to Istanbul,
(01:34):
Turkey as well as the Greek Islands.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yep, You're going to see more of us on social
media than you ever wanted to, so there is no
feud here.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
There's nothing. I love for the pieces.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
And two we just can't wait to get on our cruise.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Absolutely. And today, of course we're going to be answering
more of our fan questions. Hopefully one of them will
be about that. Kathy, And make sure you're submitting because
we love reading them. We love talking to you, we
love sharing our advice, and you know how to do it.
Bachelornation dot com slash Golden Hour and go ahead and submit,
(02:09):
because that's what we're here for.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
That's right. Send us everything we want to hear from you.
Your questions, your updates, your comments, We want to hear
all of it. You also can dm us on Instagram
at Bachelor Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
You sure can do. Okay, you ready, time to get
into the episode. Let's start with the question of the day. Oh,
here we go, Here we go. What are your thoughts
on plastic surgery for people that are younger, example eighteen
to twenty one? What advice would you give to young
women that are considering some form of work?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh, I got the answer on this one.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I dont remind they're young.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That's my point.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I think, unless you know, I have a lot of
friends who had we call them nose jobs, deviated sept
when they were in high school. And you know, that's
one thing I think. But if you're talking about plastic surgery,
breast enhancement, or even frankly, tattoos and stuff, once you
do that stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's not plastic surgery.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Well, okay, it's I mean, all right, so let's just
focus on that. But if you have breast enhancement or
you know, something to change permanently, change your face or
your body before you really have time to settle in
to your own body, I think it's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
What about Kathy, what came to mind for me? Injections,
boat toks, things like this.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I think it's too young.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I think twenty one I can't imagine you haven't rinkles
number one.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Well, I think I had a few. No, But here's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Your your face is changing, your your You're not fully developed.
I mean truly, I think like I've had friends who
had breast reduction done as teenagers. I mean that I
think is something different. But in terms of having injections,
which again is not plastic surgery, but you know, having
your eyes done, or your lips filled, or breast in hand,
(04:09):
I just can't imagine it at that age.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Well, I know of people that are twenty one years
old and their breast, like you said, a reduction, if
that's necessary then by all means yeah. And if you
were so flat chested and you wanted a little something
at twenty one years old, you're able to make up
your own mind. I don't have a problem with it.
I do, however, have a problem with wanting a facelift
or something twenty yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean, I just I think the problem here is,
like many things, is the overflow of social media. People
girls and young women look at themselves and they compare
themselves to air brushing, to you know, things that just
aren't reality, and they and they want that and I
think that's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Speaking of air brushing, Kathy, I wish I knew how
to do it, because I've looked really good these crospy
and do you know people on social media and I'm
talking to you guys out there that write these comments
when I'm taking a selfie or something out in the sun.
My crow speed are pretty prominent. And yes I get botox,
but it's not a miracle. Why are you so criticizing?
(05:17):
I mean, why do you say such negative things? I
am human, I'm sixty eight years old, I have crowsfeed.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I think you look beautiful, I think, but I think
that's what I'm saying. It's indemnic. Social media has given
everyone a platform to say and do whatever they want.
So that's half of the problem. People have no compunction.
They just think they can say in whatever they want.
That's the first problem. But I think the bigger issue
(05:45):
is young people are not They don't know what's real anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They see these models on social media that have had
literally airbrushing, the tricks that you can do with photography now,
they're not real. So when I want to see real, well,
but the problem is some of these young women I
think think that that is real when it really is.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, do you remember when we were growing up, so
many times when you were real Yeah, Twiggy, everybody had
to be bone thin, which fortunately I was blessed because
I used to have to drink protein drinks the game
weight I was bone.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I never had that problem.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I had boobs, I mean, they weren't in style then
and I had them right, But I wasn't about to
go to the plastic surgeon at twenty one years old.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No. I mean I my daughter, who now is you know,
mother and well into her thirties. I don't think that
she ever thought about it, commented on it. Like I said,
I had friends growing up who didn't like their noses,
that they had a big bum.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And I don't understand the those things if you're born
with this thing, all mean, I just.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Think, you know whatever.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I just think that I wish young women. My message
to young women today is enjoy the body you have.
If you breathe and you're healthy and you're strong, that
is so much more important. I mean, it's I think
it sometimes falls on deaf ears, but I just think
having a healthy body that supports you or so much
(07:23):
more important.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Or wait till the eyes are hooded and then by
all means fix them. At twenty one years old, you
don't have hoo.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
I was just going to say, did you have?
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I mean I was very overweight at twenty one and
I also had big boobs, but I didn't get them
reduced until after I had my three.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Kids, after kids, after I had my kids.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But you know what I think.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think, young ladies, if you're listening, give yourself a
chance to fall in love with the person you were
born to be instead of trying to change yourself.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Especially in today's world, everything is accepted big people, skinny people.
I mean, does it matter big butts are in you
know what I mean, everything goes so be okay with
who you are. But I am one with plastic surgery
when it's time, when you need it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I mean, I have had a few things done myself,
and you know, people say to me all the time,
why do you admit to it?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
And you know what I say, why not?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I have people say to me, I thought you had
work done. Look at your face. I'm like, are you serious?
Speaker 1 (08:30):
You know what says and you don't. Let don't let
them get to you. Yes, be the nice person you are.
It'll all turn out, all right.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
We're going to move into our fan question.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Oh I love this part.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Okay, I love it. All right, I'm going to start
us off here we go.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
All right, Hi, ladies, I love your podcast, and I
was really hoping to get your advice. My daughter is
thirteen years old, and it's already so worried about her appearance.
I expected this, as the tween years are really tough,
and I figured she'd have a similar struggle as we
all do, carving out who we are at such a
(09:11):
young age. However, it's way worse than I thought. She's
asking me for retinoal creams. She recently spent all her
babysitting money on skincare products for anti aging.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
It's nuts.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Thankfully, she listened to me about the products and now
asked me before buying so they don't hurt her face.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But I know that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I've tried to be as involved as I can be
when it comes to what she consumes online, but I
know this is something going on with all of her friends.
I've talked to the other parents and we're all at
a loss on what to do to get these girls
to stop worried about anti aging, how they look, having
perfect skin, et cetera. I want to know what you
(09:56):
would say to her if you were in my shoes,
so I can see if I'm seen anything when I
talk to her.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Thanks, ladies, you know it's.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Funny I could relate. My granddaughter will be thirteen this year,
and for Christmas, she wanted products for her face. I
sat her down and said, don't think you have to
buy everything that you see. Here's the deal. Always use
a moisturizer, Always use an I cream that you can
do now. You don't need retinols. And she doesn't have
(10:27):
acne or anything like that. If the child had acne,
then yes, you address it with certain cres.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Well, So you and I are kind of on the
same patrio. What I would do in answer to your
question is I would take her to a place like,
you know, a store, a drug store or so for
something like that, and I would say using clean products
like I would try to educate her on clean things
(10:53):
and so clean products so that she's not worried about
retinol and explain to her that that's something for people
of wrinkles. And I would talk to her this is
a great opportunity to talk about the evils of social
media and that her face is beautiful. But at the
same time, you're never too young to teach to learn
(11:13):
about good healthcare. So using some natural cleaners and some
natural stringents and whatever products that is appropriate for a teenager.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
So that's what I would do.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
I would take care of Brittany to the clinic counter.
It was the least expensive and it was a clean product,
and let that lady teach her rite what it is.
And she was young and she got it.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
I think, I think it's I think if you acknowledge
that young girls today are very interested in physical appearance,
and maybe too much so, but.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And taking care of them, and that's right.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Focus on healthy skincare as opposed to changing the appearance
if you will, So.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I wash your face, that's important.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Teach those kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
And if she wants to use a light lipstick or something,
the minute you say no, yeah, like gloss, the minute
you say no, it's the forbidden fruits.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And social media shows us everything.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
But Susan, don't they. I mean, I don't.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
My daughter's older now, but I know that they make
lots of clean products for for young girls today. Focus
on that and don't worry about I mean retinal.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You know, tell her it's a prescription.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Heard retinal on the internet. I'm sure you know.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
And I would I think, of course, you know, I
always wanted to make a joke. I mean, I have
to be honest when I read this anti aging, to this,
to this listener. I mean at thirteen, I would, I
kind of would have to make a joke about it
with my daughter and say, anti aging. If you get
any younger, you'll be back in my stomach. You know
how much younger do you want to be.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't think I was worried about skincare thy. Times
have changed, though time.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
So I did.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
I remember at thirteen and when I started my period,
I got the.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
First bits of God.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, every month, every month, that was a curse.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And now look at us filled with wrinkles. But we
wish you all good luck.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
We talk to her, educate her in the way that
she should be, and retinals will happen in her life.
Just don't rush it.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, And you know what else, I just had one
more thought. You know what else you.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Could do for a treat for her birthday? Maybe give
her a facial where a third, you know, the facialists
could talk to her about skincare and maybe buy her
a couple of products there that are clean products. I
think sometimes if they have something to focus on and
feel like they're making a difference in their face, they
won't be saying, you know, I want.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
A new kid cleansing cream cream.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah, it's all you need.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Don't you wish those days for back for us, Susan,
don't My cupboards are for flowing.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
And sunscreen? Teach her about sunscreen. Yeah, I waited half
my life, well three quarters of my life, and I
am faithful.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Wait, wait, Susan, little late, Susan, you had to go there,
didn't you.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Susan.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Mike was in Saint Martin and just got back and
I said to her, your face, Susan, put sunscreen on.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
She goes, I put it on in the morning.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Listen, everyone out there, sunscreen needs to be reapplied every
hour to two hours. You cannot put it on in.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
The morning, back on after I get out of the water.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
Yeah, well that's great if you're supposed to just disappear
in an hour. Yeah, it just absorbs into your skin.
It doesn't it's not effective. So my PSA for the
day is use reapply your sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Reapply, re apply. Alright, moving on, thanks for writing in Okay,
next one. Hi, ladies, I'm worried about my roommate and
I need help on how to talk to her. We're
both in college and are very lucky to say that
our families are blessed. My roommate, let's call her Kelly,
and I support support it by our parents. So any
(15:09):
money we make from jobs and internships is solely our
fun money. Here's the problem. I noticed recently that Kelly
has been putting her money in a facelift fun Oh well, buddy,
I have an envelope with that a facelift. We're twenty.
She's gotten things like lip filler or chin filler in
(15:32):
the past, and I've never thought much of it. I've
never been the type to have a strong opinion on
work plastic surgery wise, especially when it comes to other people.
That's not my business, smart girl, But Kelly is one
of my closest friends and I owe it to her
to look out for her when I see something that
(15:52):
worries me. But how do I bring this up to her?
I talked to my mom, and she told me it
would probably be really hard for her to find someone
willing to give a twenty year old a facelift. But
I want to know why she even feels the need
to get one. That's where the problem is for me.
What do you think? Thank you so much? May I
(16:14):
put my two cents in here? Really quick? Think about
what you're telling us. She has a fun facelift. It's
going to take her from twenty to fifty to save
enough money, so let that fun be. It doesn't mean
she's going to use it right now.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Well, I agree with that, but I think the bigger
issue here. I mean, yes, technically your correct sings, yes,
but the fact that a twenty year old is not
saving for a fancy handbag or a trip to Paris
to go up the Eiffel Tower, but instead it's saving
for a facelift is cause for concern. So and by
(16:54):
the way, uh, you can always find a doctor willing
to do anything.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
So she's already had lip filler.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And I think you know you have to talk to
your friend kind of the way Susan and I are
talking on this podcast. You have to talk to your
friend about the evils. If you will of social media
and how what you see a lot of times it's
airbrushed and people don't really look like that, and they
have makeup artists who know how to make them look
(17:21):
twenty years younger.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Just have the conversation with her.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
But you know what, I'm guessing this girl just wild
guests here, has some self esteem issues and she you know,
doesn't like her eyes or it doesn't like her nose
and thinks that if she could change it, her life
would magically be different.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And you know what, it isn't.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
As well as they don't realize it is not a miracle.
When we go under the knife, we're thinking we're going
to come out. It's not true. It's a little tweak,
it's a little this, and it does look a little better,
especially at our age, but it's not the end all.
(18:03):
It's not like you were twenty again.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
But see, that's what I'm saying. I don't think. I
don't think this is about a tweak or anything else.
I think this girl, I don't know because we don't
have enough information here, but I'm guessing she I'm making
it up now. She does her eyes are too close
together or too far apart. Her nose is too big
or too small, her chin sticks out too much or
(18:25):
not enough.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Her ships are too thin.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I'm saying her lips are too thin.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Whatever it is, she's not happy with herself, and that
is a bigger issue. Then can she save enough for
a facelift? I think the bigger issue here is learning
to accept the person she is and love herself.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Because I agree, I agree, but I still don't think
anything's wrong with having a fun that you're going to save.
It takes a long time to save her something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I totally disagree. I think there is something wrong with it.
A young girl who starts a facelift fund at twenty
years old, I think there's something else going on. And
you're saying that Susan at sixty eight, that you wished
you had.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I had these envelopes all my life, new shoes, like
I would put money aside for things that I knew
I was gonna want, or whether that's.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
Shoes, that's what.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, now we're talking a new outfit, shoes, a fancy
designer handbag, not a facelift to twenty years old. If
you did you really have a facelift envelope at twenty.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Uh, no, but I had a separate envelope first cousinic. Yeah,
but that's different when it was time. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
All right, Well, I think I think you're a great
friend who you don't have your name here, but I
think you should try to talk to Kelly, your roommate,
and get her to really look examine why she wants
a facelift.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Just save it for ask her. I see you have
this facelift fund. Do you plan on doing that soon
or you just prep piring for the future when you're
fifteen or sixty.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
And by the way, if you could talk your roommate
into giving up the fund and she'd like to share
it with Susan and me, we could we could put
that money to you right now. All right, we are
gonna move into a segment that we call rapid fire advice.
(20:27):
It's confidence and it's tips and tricks. So instead of
a game, that's what we're gonna do, all things confidence appearance.
We're gonna switch off reading the prompts. We're gonna both
give our advice and here we go. Give us your tips,
tricks and advice on your ray.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Susan, yes, make up?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
What are your go to beauty hacks that you've always.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Used forever in a day, my eyeliner, pencil and mascara
two biggest things.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Okay, mind that I just actually recently learned because makeup
has changed so much recently.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I got gifted.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
A blush that doubles as a lipstick shadow too. Yeah,
so that is my hack. If you're traveling the you know,
the fewer products you can take, the better. And so
I love a good crayon stick that is a blush,
a lipstick, and an eyeshadow.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Go for it.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Okay, Kathy, you're not going to like this one. How
do you find what clothes work best for you?
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I call Susan.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
No, actually, I have to tell you from people.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
But here's the thing. I took an extended vacation here
and I went shopping to buy clothes, and I really
found out after trying on a.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Million things, I now have learned.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And so here's my tip to anyone who's not sure
what looks good on them. Because Susan it was a chopoholic.
She knows what she likes and she goes and buy.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I have learned how to shop, and here's what I've learned.
Try on a style that you don't think. For example,
I don't look good in things that have a built
in waist because I don't have a wist. But I've
tried enough things on that now I know a straight
silhouette looks best on me. I can wear a short dress,
(22:26):
I can wear a MIDI I can wear a long.
My arms are decent, so I can go strapless. It
takes trying on, right, would you agree?
Speaker 2 (22:34):
How do you find out? That's how you find out? Yeah,
and try it on and then and take a picture
of yourself.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Yeah, and then stay away.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Then, Like when I went shopping, I was in a
department store and this shopper was helping me buy stuff,
and she kept bringing out dresses that had a waist,
and I said, Nope, they don't look good on me.
And so I realized that now I know, I don't
have to waste time trying on stuff that already know
it's not going to look good on me. All right,
here's the next one, overcoming insecurities. What's something you were
(23:08):
insecure about when you were young and how did you
overcome it?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I mean, I hate given that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
They were talking about plastic surgery, I was really insecure
about my overly big boobs and how to overcome it.
When after I had three children i was forty years old,
I had them taken down to size.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
I'm insecure when I was young. I can't put anything
out not being the best at something which carried my
whole life, like when I was a cheerleader or a
gymnast or anything. Of being able to be myself in
front of guys when you're hanging out, you know, things
(23:54):
like that.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, I think my best advice to anyone who has insecurities,
especially when you're in those teenage years going off to college,
all those those first.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
When you're younger.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
I try to remember, and I told my kids this,
everyone's feeling the way you are when you walk on
For example, when you walk on campus the first year
as a freshman, you're scared to death. Guess what everyone
else is feeling insecure is scared, So try to remember
you're not in it alone. You know, if you're not
the best, whatever, guess what somebody else is thinking the
(24:28):
same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
They're not the best. So just just fake it till
you make it.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Hey, that's my motto. The awkwardness of puberty. How did
you handle puberty? When you went through it and when
your kids went through it. Oh man, oh, Mandy. I
might remember I was the only one that didn't have
a hair under my arm or my.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
So I for me was a little different. I had
that were I had four sisters. I was the youngest
of the girls.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yes, that was easier for you, well and yes and no.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
I was watching them and then so as it happened
to me, I sort of had a little view into
the future. But I remember, gosh, starting my period, I
thought that was, you know, the best thing since sliced bread,
until I realized what it meant. But I think when
(25:27):
my kids went through it, I remember so my parents.
I grew up in a generation where people didn't talk
about puberty. I did with my kids, did you most definitely?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
So I talked to them about the changes that were
going to happen. And I don't think it's ever enough.
I think sometimes kids don't want to hear it from
their parents. They want to hear it from their friends,
which is unfortunate because you get, you know, some bad
advice that way.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
But I have to know, did you ever come home? Well,
you had older siblings, but mommy, where did the babies
come out. My mother used to say, down there, Kathy,
I thought you booped them out for half my life?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
That's all she would say.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Down there.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Now, my children they do everything. I spelled everything.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Oh so did I.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
And we didn't use silly little words like you know, pep,
and we said penis vagina.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
We used the right words.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I can remember my my we called it a period,
my mother law. My mother called an ant flow. I
remember the first time's about Aunt Floy went.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Who do you have your friend? As your friend visited?
This is not my friend. This is a bleeding vagina.
I would not call it a friend.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
But isn't it.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Weird that every yeah, everything, I don't I think.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I think the generations. You know, my daughter does not
use silly little words for her, you know, her daughter's
body parts. We call it what it is. But I
just remember thinking we grew up at that time. No, seriously, yes,
god right, here's the next one. Plastic surgery. How do
(27:08):
you just it's all about plastic surgery, ditasies and I
have I have a I have a a consultation for
a facelift. By the way, Okay, how do you decipher
if you're getting something done for you. Oh this is
a good one because I know the answer to this
one for me. Okay, how do you decipher if you're
getting something done for you versus feeling the compulsion to
(27:30):
quote fix something that is doing it for the wrong reasons?
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I know, I get something done for me. It's me
in the mirror.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I mean, so, I.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Think if you're fixing something again, you know, having big
boobs wanted to there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
I think the danger is, well, what would.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Be the wrong reason to please a man?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Say? Yeah, let's say I wanted you know, oh, I
want you to put new cheekbones in me because my cheekbone,
and that, to me is the wrong reason I want.
I want people to love who they are. It's you know,
and accept who they are. And then if you want
to enhance, as it goes south, you tweak it, yeah,
but not remaking your body. So my advice to you
(28:15):
is what Susan just said, take a long look in
the mirror and realize that you are made the way
you're made. I know it sounds ridiculous, but you should
be happy if you're healthy. I mean, of course, you
know we're going to get a lot of things. Well,
why aren't you happy aging? I am happy aging, but
I feel better when I tweak it. Yeah, so you're right,
(28:37):
you know what insecurities when dating? How do you navigate
having your own personal insecurities while dating and not letting
them meddle in your relationship? Well?
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Who's them?
Speaker 3 (28:52):
First of all, I'm guessing friends, parents.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Whoever, how do you navigate having your own personal purities
while dating and not letting them meddle in your relationship?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So let's say with you and Frederic, Uh, you don't
want you know, if you feel insecure.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
And you know you could project that you could be you
don't want to project it and you.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Don't want to be in that jo. So what do
you do? What's your advice on that one?
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I see? For me, I gotta be true to myself.
It's always being true to myself. If I get a
little jealous, I don't want it to be known.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (29:31):
That's something I would keep in.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You really, Yes, you wouldn't say to Frederic, hey I'm
feeling insecure about today.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I would, But when I was young.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Never, Well I don't think this is necessarily young. I
think it's just when you're dating. I don't know. I
wish people were more honest in their dating relationships and
said how how they feel, how someone else's actions, your
partner's actions makes you feel.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
I wish we could do that more.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And you you don't say you made me feel You
say I feel like this when exactly? And I think
that's maturity that we're learning.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Well, you know what, for all the younger people listening today,
it's there's nothing wrong in if you're feeling insecure. There's
nothing wrong in telling your partner how you feel insecure
and how he or she could make you feel.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Nothing wrong with.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
The sooner you do it, the better you feel. And
insecurities and friendships, that's sex, right.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Yeah, Susan, I haven't heard from you in weeks. I'm
feeling very that's lying.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
You navigate your own personal insecurities while being friends with
other women. If you find yourself feeling jealous when your
bestie gets hit on and you don't, where do you
go from there? I can say I'm jealous, I would
say envious. I'm so happy for you. When's it my turn?
You know?
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
I do think that sometimes friendships get women at any age.
I think you and I've seen this action from being
on the show. Get insecure about friend. Well, you talked
to this one more than that one. I don't know,
Get over it.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
He's given her more attention. Well, obviously there's some chemistry there.
If there's not here, then don't try wish for something
that you really don't even want. You know, a lot
of people will go out of their way to get
that attention, yet they're really not interested in that person.
It's just for the attention. Don't waste your time, all right,
(31:35):
this was so.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Much fun, it really was. Thank you to our listeners
for joining in. We hope we gave you some good
advice today.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Absolutely, and if these are great with us, let us know.
And if you disagree, we're interested in that as well.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
But let me just say, I know we're going to
take some heat on this whole plastic surgery thing. I
think I think the biggest thing here is being old enough.
As we've talked through this podcast, I think the biggest
thing is being old enough to make an informed decision.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
And pay for it, and pay for it.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Does that as.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Well as you're doing it for the right reasons, you're
doing it because it's going to make you feel better, yeah,
you know, and not to attract a guy when you're no,
they don't even notice him at the time. Okay, everybody,
make sure to follow us on Bachelor Happy Hour. As
you know, we have a lot more to say, new
episodes coming out every week.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Every week, and make sure to submit your questions to ask.
All you have to do is go to bachelornation dot com,
slash Golden Hour, or dm us on Instagram at Bachelor
Happy Hour.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
And listen to Bachelor Happy Hours, Golden Hour and the
iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your podcast. Thanks again,
have a great week.
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