June 26, 2024 • 33 mins
Today on Golden Hour Kathy and Susan sit down with very special guest, Kelsey Anderson! The lovely Kelsey is here and she is helping Kathy and Susan out with some of your listener write ins! We kick off today's episode catching up with Kelsey on her many adventures with Joey. Then, we chat about her father and what she thinks about him dating. And later, Kelsey gives us her take on some of Bachelor Nation's questions; you won't want to miss her advice!
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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get to, but first.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We have to introduce our very special beautiful guest. She's
a Bachelor Nation star and fiance to Joey Kelsey Anderson
is here.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hi, Kelsey, thank you so much for joining us. We're
so excited to be chatting with you today.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Thank you for having me you so welome, thank.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You for joining us. So hell is life with your
man Joey?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's fabulous.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You know, it's nice being able to do so many
amazing things and getting all these crazy opportunities. But we're
definitely ready for things to start slowing down.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
In July. We have a good couple of weeks that
we just start going to relax. And did you hear
that she's.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Got a good couple of weeks? Come on, you guys
have been traveling. I followed you guys on Instagram. You
were in Hawaii. That looks like a dream trip. Portugal
A were you there for a wedding?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I think yes, yeah, I onet of Joey's best friends.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, you were at stage coach. All right, tell us
about your travels.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah, we've been all over the place, a lot of
it and personal honestly recently, like, we've had three weddings
this month. So I had my cousin's wedding and then
two of Joey's friends weddings, one of them he was in.
One of them was in Portugal Hawaii. We got to
go with Charity, Don and Katie and.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Zach, which was so fun.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, Joey Yeah, that's like where Joey lived was Kauwhai,
so it was really special for him to show us
around and get to meet his friends on the island
and uh yeah that was really amazing as well.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
And now we're in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So yeah, so I want to know you've been at
three weddings. Did give joe any ideas.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Uh, like of like of like what we want to
do and what we don't want to do. Okay, We're
like don't even know where we want to have it
because both of our families are all over the place,
so it's.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Like we need time to even figure out like what
area we want to have it in.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
But yeah, we're we feel like little talks like oh
we would like to do this, we want to do this,
but there's nothing said so yet, Charity.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you do it where you want. Don't try to
please everybody else. It's about you and him.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's true. So so, Kelsey, I know that Charity and
Dotton are planning their wedding, And you know, Zach and
Katy live near me in Austin, and I've had them
over and we've talked, and I know they're planning a wedding.
So I want to know, like, have they had any
like game change or any really great advice for you guys,
you know, anything about relationships.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Like planning for spending the wedding or for relationships.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, all of it. Wedding planning, relationship goals.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, I mean, I know Katie and Zach were talking
to me about how they were looking at venues charity
and Dowton also told us a little bit about some
of the things that they've been doing getting ready for
their wedding.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I think that I actually sent Katie a venue that.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
One of my friends looked at in Austin, because I
know that she was maybe wanting to do it somewhere
around there, and so I actually set her a venue
to go look at because one of my friends went there.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Is beautiful. But we haven't talked too much about it.
They just kind of gave me.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
A little bit of details about what they're what they're
looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Any relationship advice.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
I mean I got a lot of relationship advice from
Katie and from Dowton whenever we were like in hiding.
They both are so nice and for them to reach
out to me and be there for me, I was
like I needed that so much, because it's really hard
in hiding, especially whenever you know you're hiding that you're
engaged and you.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Want to tell everybody, and then everybody's.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Seeing all, you know, the other relationships that your partner
had and watching it back can be difficult.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But having them and their support was amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Oh god, I love it all. I love all six
of you.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I know you guys are all friends, and I'm like,
because everyone, they're so amazing, they're so down to earth.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
It's like we would be friends in real life.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
And like, I don't think people can understand unless they
were on the show, like how we could all be friends.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, it's all six of you are truly amazing couples.
You really are.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Thank you, and it's living proof everybody that it does work.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Look how happy they are.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's right. Yeah, that's right. So are you guys living together?
Where are you living? I know you've just traveled so much.
Where are you guys doing.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah, I've been joking that New Orleans is our closet
right now because we've been traveling so much. It's like
we just like keep all of our clothes there and
then we're like moving all over the place. But like
I said in July, things are slowing down, so we'll
be able to be there more and I get to
show more around New Orleans. But New Orleans is our base,
but hopefully being in New York soon.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'm sorry, Where in New York? Are you a galling baby?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Manhattan?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
But we don't have like a area, like a neighborhood
set yet. But we have a couple areas that we're
looking into, but I'm not sure yet we have, We've
been looking. But it's so hard New York because it's
like whenever something goes up, it gets taken immediately.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's good everybody everyone there get gets apartment locators. It's
just what you have to do.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, yeah, we have someone helping us for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Have you lived in New York, Coulsey.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
No, I've never lived in New York. That's what I've
always wanted to.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I don't know if it's like watching too much sex
in the city or what it is, but I'm like,
I have this dream.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Of living in New York.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You could you could do sex and this, and you
could be that next girl welcome down.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I just like love the hustle and bustle. I've visited
a lot. I have some friends that live there. But yeah,
I'm just really excited. I'm like, I don't care if
I hate it. I have to experience it, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
At once.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yes, yeah, right, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Joey is excited like too, because it's very close to Philly,
so it's like an hour train ride, I think. And
the train is amazing. We took it once from Philly
to New York. So we'll be able to visit his
sister and brother in law and dad a lot, which
is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Really nice, nice, nice. I'm excited for you. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Because we should go visit them in New York.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Go. Yeah, and Charity Dun's in Brooklyn, so now my.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Daughter lived in Brooklyn. They they live near where my
daughter lives. That's a great nice too.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It is Brooklyn School because it has like little Italy sections,
you know, it's like where I grew up.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, totally, wow, I love it. I love it. Okay,
So we never know when you're going to get there,
but let us know.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I'm sure, yes, I definitely will.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Okay, So we do a topic of the day, Kelsey, Yes,
and today we want you to join in with us.
Are there any taboo topics that are off limits to
talk about with a long term partner or do you
like to talk about everything?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I love to talk about everything. I think it's also
like part of my ADHD brain. It like jumps around
to everything.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But also whenever Joey and I after we got engaged,
I would look up like thousands of questions like to
ask somebody, Like there's literally like a list of like
a thousand questions to ask people, or like there's books,
you know, and we would just flip through and I just
be like, Oh, what's you know? All like random questions
that you would never think to ask somebody.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
I love getting to know all the little things about anybody,
my friends, like my significant others.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So have you ever have you ever asked Joey if
he knew what his loved language was.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yes, yes, he said, yeah, he said he thinks it
like receiving. It was like I think it was words
of affirmation in physical touch and then like he gives
it in like physical touch, And what is it?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You can't have all five? See? I see the same way.
I want all five.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I like that I my lovelages. All five give them
all to me.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I deserve them all, right, I'm impressed them. Some men
don't even know what that is.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah, I know, yeah, I think maybe the Bachelor trained
him a little.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Wat What is your what is your lang? What is
your love language? Kelsey?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Giving it? Giving it? I would probably say acts of service?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Oh yeah, for your partner, for my partner, Yeah, for anybody,
like I will. I love like leaving little notes or
little gifts. I like hiding little letters and stuff and
his like luggage whenever like he's going somewhere and for
him to find whenever he's by himself, like I like doing.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But your love language when you're asked, what is your
love language?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Oh yeah, like what receive?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
How do you have love? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I would say acts of service as well, honestly, like
I want you to think about little things intentionally and
do them for me without being asked, Like.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I don't want to ask. I want to just do
it for me. Oh yeah, exactly what are yours?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Kathy?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh you know what that whole thing I get. As
I've said you before, Susan, I get confused, I think because.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
You want them all as well.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, we're being honest. I think for me, it's touch.
And that's for me, it's touch, and and I think
acts of service. For the other person, I give acts
of service and and I like to receive, you know,
physical touch. But hey, I haven't had a date in
a while, so really does it matter?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh God? So are next?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
For the other people out there looking for love? How
did you know Joey was the one?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I just it's funny, I explained it. Growing up.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
My mom always told us, like, you need somebody like
your dad, Like the type of like person that your
dad is, that's the type of man that you should
look for. And my dad is very intentional, like whatever
he speaks, like all his words mean so much.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
You can tell me your dad by the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but it's like I feel like he's very intentional with
all his words.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
And I like realized that with Joey, Like all the
words that he would tell me, like they just seemed
so intentional and like very special like to me, and
he made me.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Feel really special.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
And yeah, he just reminded me a lot of the
way that like my dad was to my mom, the
way he was to me.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So how lacking?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh sorry, we're asking the same question. I thought is
that what was lacking Kelsey in your other relationships that
they make you feel special?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I think that I would have to ask ask for
a lot of things. I mean, it's funny. Me and
my girlfriends were talking the other night. Whenever we're all
hanging out, They're like, Kelsey, you just don't date bad guys.
Like all of my exes are great men. They just
I feel like didn't fit for me.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
But yeah, I don't know my question what's different about
the guys you dated?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
What is is Joey different?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I think Joey's different. Yeah, No, I don't think it's timing.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I think that Joey is different because like he continuously
makes me feel special like he I've never really had
to like ask.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
For love, you know what I mean. I feel like
in previous relationships, I felt like, you.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Know, it kind of dwindled, and I felt like I
was having to like ask for things that I didn't
think that I should have been asking for. Good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Are you friends with your exes, Kelsey?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I'm not friends with my exes, but I respect my exes.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
I don't think that you should really have that, like,
you know, best friendship with them.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Oh wait a minute, since then you've been the one
that says you're really good friends with all your exes
all of them.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, but not like best friends. Yeah I'm not Christmas. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So what dating advice, if you will, would you give
your younger self, if you had the knowledge that you
have now, would anything be different?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Because I think you are young, so.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, I don't think that I would do anything different.
Well maybe, like I think that in my early relationships,
I was like I loved the drama, you know, like
I loved like arguing and things like that.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I would say, maybe don't do that, it's not cute.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But about you, see, we we finished each other crazy,
I think for me, I uh, the advice I would
give is just believe in yourself, you know, believe in
myself more than I believe in myself a lot now.
But when I was younger, I don't think I did
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as much. And so that's what about you.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I second that as well as and you taught me this.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I read flag is a red flag.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
It's not going to change Kelsey truly, right.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
No, my girlfriends were all talking about our relationships like
our previous relationships recently. But one of my best friends
she told me something whenever I was like dating my
college boyfriend, and I was because I was like, I
kept having these feelings like I just don't feel like
this is it, and I was like, I feel like
I need to end it. And I was talking to
her and she was like, well, like why are.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
You staying with him?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I was like, well, he's so nice to me, Like
he's so nice, and she was like, you should expect
every man to be nice to you. That's the bare minimum.
And whenever she said that, I was like, oh, you're right.
I was like and I ended it, literally, I think
that week because I was like, you're so right, like
that's the bare minimum. Every man should be nice to you,
and then you should have like these other connections and
you know, things interest that are alike.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But yeah, I love it. Okay, So I want to
get back to your dad for a minute, because when
we met him at your finale, of course, you know,
Susan elbowed away in to see if she could maybe
date the.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
We were emailing long before.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
That, See what I mean, nobody gets a chance, but
you know he suit your dad is a super nice guy,
and you know, how how do I Susan obviously already
got it done. How do we land a guy like
your dad? And and selfishly does your dad have any
other single friends?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So, Kelsey, how would you feel if your dad got
to have a similar dating experience just like yours?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Like, how would that make you feel?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I would fully support it. I want my dad to,
like get out there. I want my dad to date.
I think that my mom really would want him to.
My mom before she passed, always said like, I want
you to find somebody else. I want you to find
another love, because I think she always just knew that
she like before she even was six. She would always
say that she just knew that she was going to
pass before him. And she always said that, And so like,
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I know me and all my siblings would support him
and want him to be happy and find a partner
that he can travel and do things with.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So so that brings up something for me because, as
you know, my husband passed away and my kids, my
sons were very very eager, you know, they want, but
my daughter was much more reticent about me dating and
finding somebody. And you know, I wonder what you would
(15:19):
say to those people that are your age too, you know,
sort of give their parents a break because we don't
want to be alone. You know, what do you think
about that?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I just I feel like my dad gave like all
of us so much love, like growing up, and he
still does that.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
And I just feel like my dad deserves love as well.
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I think that, you know, loving like your family is
different than loving like a partner. And I think that
like he needs like that support of like a like
a partner. You know that someone like that's not his kid,
and that's not his.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Brothers friend, sister in law.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Yeah, like his best friend, like I don't know, is
deserving of that.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
So much more that you that you feel that way,
because you know, I said to my kids, look and
I'm I can never replace your dad. Yeah, and I
hear you saying sort of the same thing. But I
deserve to be happy too. And it's amazing that you're
twenty five.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, I just turned twenty six April. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But it's just amazing that you have that. Are your
siblings in the same boat with you?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, I think that like some of my siblings, that
like took them a little bit longer to feel that way.
My dad hasn't really dated, like he kind of dated
like one or two ladies, but it was very like
kind of I don't think that he fully felt like
he could date them because he always felt guilty about
it because he feels like, no one's going to replace
your mom. And it's like, we know that no one's
going to replace our mom, but it's going to be
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a different love and it's going to be, you know,
something that you deserve that you know, we just wanted
to be happy and like find a best friend like
how he was with my mom as well.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
That that's unbelievably perfect what you just said.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
It is.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It is all.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You've got a great family. I met both of your
brother your sisters. They're all beautiful people, and I think
they all encourage him.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I agree with.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Okay, Susan, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to
horn in then on it, so what I can go
younger Kelsey. The other thing that I wanted to talk
to and I think I actually mentioned this to you
at your finale, but why would you remember you talked
about the butterflies coming during and that is the same
(17:26):
thing when my husband died, yellow butterflies came and and
you know that's I felt such a strong connection. I
still do when the butterflies come. How do you how
do you connect with your mom? You know? And how
do you find ways for Joey to connect with your mom?
Which I know sounds a little strange, but you know,
(17:50):
anyone I did, I would want them sort of to
know my background and be part of my family.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I love telling Joey's stories about my mom, Like whenever
anything like reminds me of her, I love to tell
him stories. I think that that's how I feel like
Joey kind of connects with my mom. He also got
me this little butterfly necklace of Valentine's Day.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Which is really sweet.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I know he's a keeper.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
He was really sweet, but yeah, I think that I
think that Joey understands the type of woman my mom
was to me, just from like the stories and the
videos that I show him, and like of her just
dancing and making up songs and dance moves and all
these things, like she was always laughing and very positive.
My siblings will say like that I'm like the most
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like her in a.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Lot of ways.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I think that we all have like our little quirks
that are like our moms but are like our mom.
But yeah, I definitely resemble my mom the most out
of all of us too, so that's kind of it
feels special.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
She's beautiful, She's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I just love you and him together, and I think
your whole family is blessed and his family.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Guys, we wish nothing but the best.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So we have some fan questions to go through and
we give advice, and Kelsey here is going to give
her advice as well.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Are you ready ready?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
All right?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
This one is from Sean. He's forty four from Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Hello, mad Rouge.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's close to close to you, that's sure.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Hello, ladies, I have a question. I'm looking for some
advice on my wife and I have been together for
ten years, and she's eight years younger than me. We
met when we were thirty four and twenty six, and
now we're forty four and thirty six. When we met,
she thought she wanted kids and just said she wasn't
(19:44):
ready yet. Now she said she isn't sure anymore about
wanting children, but I still do. I know people can
change their mind, and she was young when we met,
but this is becoming really difficult for me. As I
always saw myself as a dad. She is one my
person and we are deeply in love. So I don't
(20:07):
know if I need to walk away from a relationship
that makes me so happy, or if I can continue
in our marriage and let go of the resentment. I
know this is a difficult situation, so any advice is welcome.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Thank you for your wisdom.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Wow, Kelsey, we didn't say this was going to be easy.
We were just y'all.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Your first one is.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Okay. We can ask you that question, Susan, I can answer.
You can tell us how we have beautiful hair, can
get beautiful hair?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
No, I don't know how would I answered that.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I feel like that's so hard because you you know,
I feel like he's always going to think of like
the what if of like, oh what if I didn't like,
what if I had kids?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
What if? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
That's hard, But it's his.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But if it's your person, you know, then how dare
you walk away? No?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
You just yeah, Oh, guys, I don't know. I mean.
I got Mary Kelsey very young. I was twenty, and
we knew we wanted children, but we purposely because I
was so young and we were traveling and doing my
husband's in the military, a whole bunch of things. So
I was married almost eight and a half years before
(21:15):
I had my first child. But I can say that
if someone wants a child and they and the other
partner says no, that resentment is going to build. Yeah,
and the person that you love so much today, maybe
the person that you resent, you know, two years from
now when you decided or she decides it's too late
(21:38):
and doesn't want children, you know, Susan, I was waiting
for your big s word. They have to talk about it, Nick,
I mean, that's what I would say. You really have
to talk about it, and.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Absolutely that would be But Sean, I wish you the best.
But if you're that much in love with her and
she's your person, just keep talking about it.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Wait a minute, do you not think if he's asking
he said, I don't know if I need to walk
away from a relationship, he's obviously thinking about walking away.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I know that entered his mind because he wants to
be a dad so bad.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, okay, let's go.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
On, go on, Sean. We wish you all the luck, Yeah,
we do. Okay. This one is from Alyssa. She's thirty
one and she's from San Francisco. Hi, Kathy and Susan.
(22:34):
Love you both, and I'm hoping you can give me
advice on this. I met my boyfriend last summer while
traveling in Europe. We instantly connected and it felt unlike
any of my past relationships. Since my trip, we have
been going back and forth, visiting each other in our
respective cities, San Francisco and Rome. I know, really, I mean,
(22:55):
sounds perfect to me. Okay, I am thirty one years
old and really think this could be my person. But
we still feel a bit far off from moving for
each other because our relationship is still fairly new. We
talk about it, but it still feels like a thing
in the future. I want to get married and have
kids and worry that this could all implode. We really
(23:17):
love each other and are both doing everything to make
it work, but will the distance be the end of us.
We have started looking for jobs in each other's cities,
but it feels like a long road and very difficult.
Any advice is greatly appreciated. I don't have any friends
who have been in this situation. Been loving the podcast.
I hope it goes on forever. Well. Thank you listen,
(23:40):
so do it. Okay, come on, Kelsey, this is right
up your alley.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What do you say, girl?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah? How long have they been together?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Last summer? So you know, it sounds like it's coming
up by a year, almost a year.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I don't see.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
It's like it's funny because in normal situations, I'd be like, yeah,
just keep doing in a long distance. If it's gonna work,
it's gonna work. I don't think that you need to
like rush things. But at the same time, like, I
just got gig together, So I'm like, you know, if
that's your person, like, you know, make the big move
if you feel like that's your person, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I think they should decide what they want more San
Francisco or Rome. Because they're young, they have to work,
they need careers.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So decide what you want to do and who's going
to do it. Yeah, but don't give up on it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, we give up on it.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Wait are you? I'm sorry I blanked out it the
first second. Are you guys saying like I would say, one,
if you pick up and move and I don't care,
I mean personally i'd go to Rome. Yeah, but but
I mean a year doesn't seem like an unreasonable amount
of time for them to make that decision. Does it
to anyone else?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
No, I don't think it's no. No, I feel like
that's a long girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Go for it.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
And then by the time you actually probably have everything
together with a job and like where you're gonna move
and everything's probably be year and a half so.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
And they are starting to look so yeah, keep that
baby keeping.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
All right, Well, good luck to you, all right, I
think we have time for one more. Hi, Kathy and Susan.
I'm twenty four and I got married this year in
Michigan to my absolute best friend and the man who
is always in my corner. It was a small courthouse wedding,
but we're planning on doing a big wedding in the
near future. He's not a citizen, so we have to
(25:25):
work on green card things first and foremost. My friend
that I have asked to be my matron of honor
was not happy about the wedding and thought I needed
to take more time to make my decision. She tends
to think I can't make my own life decisions because
I'm human and have made mistakes. Ultimately, she just wants
to protect me because she was there. She didn't smile
(25:47):
the whole time and didn't say a word to my husband.
I don't know how to tell her that I didn't
appreciate it and that I understand that it was from
a place of love, but I don't know how to
start the conversation. It made my husband really mad that
she did that to us and said he doesn't think
she should be at our next wedding if she can't
be kind to him or support us. Please help me.
(26:09):
I love your podcast and the both of you, and
I think you'd be the best equipped to give me
this advice.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Oh I know what to do, baby, yep, Okay, well
let's go ahead.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
So I'm like, if she's your best friend, she should
be happy for you, right, Like I mean, if you
had your question, if she had said something to you
and you were like, you know, no, like I'm going
to continue with this wedding and did it. I feel
like she should just support you with that. I mean
like with my girlfriends. I remember we didn't like one
of my girlfriend's boyfriends an ex that they had, and
(26:40):
we told her and then she was like, well, I'm
going to steal date up and then we're like, okay,
you can make your own decisions and that's that, and
then we became friends with him.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
It was cool, but we like, initially it was like
we didn't really feel that way. I told her.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
She was like, I don't care, and she could make
her own decisions, you know. But I think that your
friend should support you and be happy for you, especially
on your wedding day.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right, And she's afraid to say something to her, So
if she's your real friend, then you should say something
to her.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Well, Susan I thought, she said, I don't know how
to start the conversation. I thought of you, Susansane, just
say it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, get to the point came here.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
You know, I would write it out.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Maybe first you think about the point you want to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, that's a good idea that you can try that.
I think the most important thing, though, is you have
found your person. Make sure you put him first and
foremost in your life. That's that's the most important thing. Hopefully, Yeah,
retain this friendship. But golly, how lucky are you that
you found your person? Congrats?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
One last question?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Do you have a best for Kathy and I?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I know you are so fun and I mean, you
have been putting yourselves out there so much.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I just continue to do that.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I like it seems like such an amazing experience for
you ladies that I think that's it's like kind of
like a new you get a new on life.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
What would your advice be, feared Dad, Because that's where
I was. I thought, that's a question. I want to know,
what's your advice here? At you? You know you were on.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, I'm like, do it all, you know, be yourself
and experience it all. Be true to yourself. I feel
like that's how I went through. It was just like
step by step, but I just was very honest about,
you know, what I was feeling. I wasn't like I
love Joey the first day because I didn't. But whenever
I did feel those feelings, I said them.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
But I don't know if.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
I just want him to be open to all the
experiences that come with it and be open with his.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Heart and be true to himself, be himself authentically, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I think that's all great advice. But I also think
if we're being honest, you have to remember there isn't
that much time always, right, Yeah, you have to jump
in pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, I think you just embrace it all you know
what I mean, Like you go through it and you
embrace it all, like every single step, and you like
give it your all. I feel like you talk about
all the things that are pressing and that like the
big things about yourself. Joey and I always talk like
we literally dated and verse. You know, we talked about
all the big things, and then now we're finding out
all the little.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Things, which is the important thing.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, I just have to ask one more question. What
was the first big thing you told Joey.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
I told Joey about all my all my like my family,
and oh I told him.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I think the biggest thing.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
One of the first big things I told him was
that I really wanted to adopt and that was a
non negotiable for me. So if he wasn't open to that,
then I couldn't be here. But interesting, yeah, so I
was like, that's a non negotiable for me. I just
feel it, like in my soul that I have to
like adopt at least one kid.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And you had that one as well. Yeah yeah, okay,
but YE want to adopt one.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, I mean I want like a million kids. Joey
only once like two. He's like, it's easier to travel.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So I'm like, okay, it is no, no, no no, here's
the deal. Here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Adopted families.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
No no, no, he'll get this. He will. He's a
sports guy. You tell him that. It's you go for
three kids, because is when you have two kids, it's
a manned a man defense. When you go to three,
it's a zone defense. I'll tell you you go to
zone once you have Once you have two, you can
go to three or four. It's perfect, you'll get.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I feel like it was harder with three because I
had twins after my first my daughter, and then I
had twin boys, and five is so much more difficult.
Not everybody gets to sit next to mommy one on
each side, or dad. You know there was always that.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, there were seven in my crew.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well that's like beyond yeah seven, you have seven.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
You have six siblings, Kelsey, I have five siblings. So
like when my mom was aro out, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Didn't you love the big family?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I love it. Yeah, I love everyone yelling over each other.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You're like Italians down there.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Listen up, Joey, while you're drinking your Cafe Dumont. You're
having more than two kids.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
So one of the things I saw out there on
our Instagram and such. I love how you make Joey
war the eyepath not make him, but he's.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Joining you with the ie gel patches. That was so cute.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
He like wants to do all the skincare stuff. I've
been like helping him.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
He's like, do I use this because of like my
skin's like this, like and I'm like, yeah, babe, or you.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Can do this and you can try this serum, and
he's like so into it. He loves it.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I love it and care take care of his skin.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yes, right.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
The biggest thing is using sunscreen, right, he knows.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yes, I've been telling him, but he thinks that. He's like,
he's like, I don't get so burned. I don't need it.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I'm like, that's not even one. Yes, he literally gets
some burnt so bad. But also it's like you need
it because it's gonna like, I don't know, prect your
skin and.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Get like this because I never used it until later
in life. We get a little pink and then it's
instantly brown.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, I'm the same way.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
I mean, like he has like his Italian jeans, I
have my Hispanic jeens so like we're both pretty so
our tans by Yes Tony Sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Always do yes.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
All right, Well listen on that happy note. That does
it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Thank you to our lovely and gorgeous woman friend Kelsey
for joining us and dishing out some great advice. You
are wives beyond your years, Kelsey, Kelsey and you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Thank you for coming and chatting with us.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
We love you, Kelsey, We love you and your gorgeous hair.
Thank you so much for joining us, and be sure
to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes
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We've had some great questions today that we're going to
get to, but first.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
We have to introduce our very special beautiful guest. She's
a Bachelor Nation star and fiance to Joey Kelsey Anderson
is here.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hi, Kelsey, thank you so much for joining us. We're
so excited to be chatting with you today.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Thank you for having me you so welome, thank.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You for joining us. So hell is life with your
man Joey?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's fabulous.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
You know, it's nice being able to do so many
amazing things and getting all these crazy opportunities. But we're
definitely ready for things to start slowing down.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
In July. We have a good couple of weeks that
we just start going to relax. And did you hear
that she's.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Got a good couple of weeks? Come on, you guys
have been traveling. I followed you guys on Instagram. You
were in Hawaii. That looks like a dream trip. Portugal
A were you there for a wedding?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I think yes, yeah, I onet of Joey's best friends.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, you were at stage coach. All right, tell us
about your travels.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Yeah, we've been all over the place, a lot of
it and personal honestly recently, like, we've had three weddings
this month. So I had my cousin's wedding and then
two of Joey's friends weddings, one of them he was in.
One of them was in Portugal Hawaii. We got to
go with Charity, Don and Katie and.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Zach, which was so fun.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, Joey Yeah, that's like where Joey lived was Kauwhai,
so it was really special for him to show us
around and get to meet his friends on the island
and uh yeah that was really amazing as well.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
And now we're in Nashville.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
So yeah, so I want to know you've been at
three weddings. Did give joe any ideas.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Uh, like of like of like what we want to
do and what we don't want to do. Okay, We're
like don't even know where we want to have it
because both of our families are all over the place,
so it's.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Like we need time to even figure out like what
area we want to have it in.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
But yeah, we're we feel like little talks like oh
we would like to do this, we want to do this,
but there's nothing said so yet, Charity.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Do you do it where you want. Don't try to
please everybody else. It's about you and him.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
That's true. So so, Kelsey, I know that Charity and
Dotton are planning their wedding, And you know, Zach and
Katy live near me in Austin, and I've had them
over and we've talked, and I know they're planning a wedding.
So I want to know, like, have they had any
like game change or any really great advice for you guys,
you know, anything about relationships.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Like planning for spending the wedding or for relationships.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, all of it. Wedding planning, relationship goals.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Yeah, I mean, I know Katie and Zach were talking
to me about how they were looking at venues charity
and Dowton also told us a little bit about some
of the things that they've been doing getting ready for
their wedding.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I think that I actually sent Katie a venue that.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
One of my friends looked at in Austin, because I
know that she was maybe wanting to do it somewhere
around there, and so I actually set her a venue
to go look at because one of my friends went there.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Is beautiful. But we haven't talked too much about it.
They just kind of gave me.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
A little bit of details about what they're what they're
looking forward to.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Any relationship advice.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
I mean I got a lot of relationship advice from
Katie and from Dowton whenever we were like in hiding.
They both are so nice and for them to reach
out to me and be there for me, I was
like I needed that so much, because it's really hard
in hiding, especially whenever you know you're hiding that you're
engaged and you.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Want to tell everybody, and then everybody's.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Seeing all, you know, the other relationships that your partner
had and watching it back can be difficult.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But having them and their support was amazing.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Oh god, I love it all. I love all six
of you.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I know you guys are all friends, and I'm like,
because everyone, they're so amazing, they're so down to earth.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
It's like we would be friends in real life.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
And like, I don't think people can understand unless they
were on the show, like how we could all be friends.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, it's all six of you are truly amazing couples.
You really are.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Thank you, and it's living proof everybody that it does work.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Look how happy they are.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's right. Yeah, that's right. So are you guys living together?
Where are you living? I know you've just traveled so much.
Where are you guys doing.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah, I've been joking that New Orleans is our closet
right now because we've been traveling so much. It's like
we just like keep all of our clothes there and
then we're like moving all over the place. But like
I said in July, things are slowing down, so we'll
be able to be there more and I get to
show more around New Orleans. But New Orleans is our base,
but hopefully being in New York soon.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'm sorry, Where in New York? Are you a galling baby?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Manhattan?
Speaker 5 (05:30):
But we don't have like a area, like a neighborhood
set yet. But we have a couple areas that we're
looking into, but I'm not sure yet we have, We've
been looking. But it's so hard New York because it's
like whenever something goes up, it gets taken immediately.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's good everybody everyone there get gets apartment locators. It's
just what you have to do.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah, yeah, we have someone helping us for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Have you lived in New York, Coulsey.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
No, I've never lived in New York. That's what I've
always wanted to.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I don't know if it's like watching too much sex
in the city or what it is, but I'm like,
I have this dream.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Of living in New York.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
You could you could do sex and this, and you
could be that next girl welcome down.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
You know.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I just like love the hustle and bustle. I've visited
a lot. I have some friends that live there. But yeah,
I'm just really excited. I'm like, I don't care if
I hate it. I have to experience it, you know.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
At once.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yes, yeah, right, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Joey is excited like too, because it's very close to Philly,
so it's like an hour train ride, I think. And
the train is amazing. We took it once from Philly
to New York. So we'll be able to visit his
sister and brother in law and dad a lot, which
is gonna be.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Really nice, nice, nice. I'm excited for you. I'm so excited.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Because we should go visit them in New York.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Go. Yeah, and Charity Dun's in Brooklyn, so now my.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Daughter lived in Brooklyn. They they live near where my
daughter lives. That's a great nice too.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
It is Brooklyn School because it has like little Italy sections,
you know, it's like where I grew up.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, totally, wow, I love it. I love it. Okay,
So we never know when you're going to get there,
but let us know.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
I'm sure, yes, I definitely will.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Okay, So we do a topic of the day, Kelsey, Yes,
and today we want you to join in with us.
Are there any taboo topics that are off limits to
talk about with a long term partner or do you
like to talk about everything?
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I love to talk about everything. I think it's also
like part of my ADHD brain. It like jumps around
to everything.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
But also whenever Joey and I after we got engaged,
I would look up like thousands of questions like to
ask somebody, Like there's literally like a list of like
a thousand questions to ask people, or like there's books,
you know, and we would just flip through and I just
be like, Oh, what's you know? All like random questions
that you would never think to ask somebody.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
I love getting to know all the little things about anybody,
my friends, like my significant others.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
So have you ever have you ever asked Joey if
he knew what his loved language was.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yes, yes, he said, yeah, he said he thinks it
like receiving. It was like I think it was words
of affirmation in physical touch and then like he gives
it in like physical touch, And what is it?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
You can't have all five? See? I see the same way.
I want all five.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I like that I my lovelages. All five give them
all to me.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I deserve them all, right, I'm impressed them. Some men
don't even know what that is.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Yeah, I know, yeah, I think maybe the Bachelor trained
him a little.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Wat What is your what is your lang? What is
your love language? Kelsey?
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Giving it? Giving it? I would probably say acts of service?
Speaker 5 (08:40):
Oh yeah, for your partner, for my partner, Yeah, for anybody,
like I will. I love like leaving little notes or
little gifts. I like hiding little letters and stuff and
his like luggage whenever like he's going somewhere and for
him to find whenever he's by himself, like I like doing.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But your love language when you're asked, what is your
love language?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Oh yeah, like what receive?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
How do you have love? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I would say acts of service as well, honestly, like
I want you to think about little things intentionally and
do them for me without being asked, Like.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
I don't want to ask. I want to just do
it for me. Oh yeah, exactly what are yours?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Kathy?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Oh you know what that whole thing I get. As
I've said you before, Susan, I get confused, I think because.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
You want them all as well.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, we're being honest. I think for me, it's touch.
And that's for me, it's touch, and and I think
acts of service. For the other person, I give acts
of service and and I like to receive, you know,
physical touch. But hey, I haven't had a date in
a while, so really does it matter?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Oh God? So are next?
Speaker 1 (09:58):
For the other people out there looking for love? How
did you know Joey was the one?
Speaker 4 (10:05):
I just it's funny, I explained it. Growing up.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
My mom always told us, like, you need somebody like
your dad, Like the type of like person that your
dad is, that's the type of man that you should
look for. And my dad is very intentional, like whatever
he speaks, like all his words mean so much.
Speaker 6 (10:22):
You can tell me your dad by the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but it's like I feel like he's very intentional with
all his words.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
And I like realized that with Joey, Like all the
words that he would tell me, like they just seemed
so intentional and like very special like to me, and
he made me.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Feel really special.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
And yeah, he just reminded me a lot of the
way that like my dad was to my mom, the
way he was to me.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So how lacking?
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Oh sorry, we're asking the same question. I thought is
that what was lacking Kelsey in your other relationships that
they make you feel special?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
I think that I would have to ask ask for
a lot of things. I mean, it's funny. Me and
my girlfriends were talking the other night. Whenever we're all
hanging out, They're like, Kelsey, you just don't date bad guys.
Like all of my exes are great men. They just
I feel like didn't fit for me.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
But yeah, I don't know my question what's different about
the guys you dated?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
What is is Joey different?
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I think Joey's different. Yeah, No, I don't think it's timing.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I think that Joey is different because like he continuously
makes me feel special like he I've never really had
to like ask.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
For love, you know what I mean. I feel like
in previous relationships, I felt like, you.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Know, it kind of dwindled, and I felt like I
was having to like ask for things that I didn't
think that I should have been asking for. Good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Are you friends with your exes, Kelsey?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I'm not friends with my exes, but I respect my exes.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
I don't think that you should really have that, like,
you know, best friendship with them.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Oh wait a minute, since then you've been the one
that says you're really good friends with all your exes
all of them.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah, but not like best friends. Yeah I'm not Christmas. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
So what dating advice, if you will, would you give
your younger self, if you had the knowledge that you
have now, would anything be different?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Because I think you are young, so.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
Yeah, I don't think that I would do anything different.
Well maybe, like I think that in my early relationships,
I was like I loved the drama, you know, like
I loved like arguing and things like that.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I would say, maybe don't do that, it's not cute.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
But about you, see, we we finished each other crazy,
I think for me, I uh, the advice I would
give is just believe in yourself, you know, believe in
myself more than I believe in myself a lot now.
But when I was younger, I don't think I did
(12:53):
as much. And so that's what about you.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
I second that as well as and you taught me this.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I read flag is a red flag.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
It's not going to change Kelsey truly, right.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
No, my girlfriends were all talking about our relationships like
our previous relationships recently. But one of my best friends
she told me something whenever I was like dating my
college boyfriend, and I was because I was like, I
kept having these feelings like I just don't feel like
this is it, and I was like, I feel like
I need to end it. And I was talking to
her and she was like, well, like why are.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
You staying with him?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
I was like, well, he's so nice to me, Like
he's so nice, and she was like, you should expect
every man to be nice to you. That's the bare minimum.
And whenever she said that, I was like, oh, you're right.
I was like and I ended it, literally, I think
that week because I was like, you're so right, like
that's the bare minimum. Every man should be nice to you,
and then you should have like these other connections and
you know, things interest that are alike.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
But yeah, I love it. Okay, So I want to
get back to your dad for a minute, because when
we met him at your finale, of course, you know,
Susan elbowed away in to see if she could maybe
date the.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
We were emailing long before.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
That, See what I mean, nobody gets a chance, but
you know he suit your dad is a super nice guy,
and you know, how how do I Susan obviously already
got it done. How do we land a guy like
your dad? And and selfishly does your dad have any
other single friends?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So, Kelsey, how would you feel if your dad got
to have a similar dating experience just like yours?
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Like, how would that make you feel?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
I would fully support it. I want my dad to,
like get out there. I want my dad to date.
I think that my mom really would want him to.
My mom before she passed, always said like, I want
you to find somebody else. I want you to find
another love, because I think she always just knew that
she like before she even was six. She would always
say that she just knew that she was going to
pass before him. And she always said that, And so like,
(14:51):
I know me and all my siblings would support him
and want him to be happy and find a partner
that he can travel and do things with.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
So so that brings up something for me because, as
you know, my husband passed away and my kids, my
sons were very very eager, you know, they want, but
my daughter was much more reticent about me dating and
finding somebody. And you know, I wonder what you would
(15:19):
say to those people that are your age too, you know,
sort of give their parents a break because we don't
want to be alone. You know, what do you think
about that?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
I just I feel like my dad gave like all
of us so much love, like growing up, and he
still does that.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
And I just feel like my dad deserves love as well.
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
I think that, you know, loving like your family is
different than loving like a partner. And I think that
like he needs like that support of like a like
a partner. You know that someone like that's not his kid,
and that's not his.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Brothers friend, sister in law.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
Yeah, like his best friend, like I don't know, is
deserving of that.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
So much more that you that you feel that way,
because you know, I said to my kids, look and
I'm I can never replace your dad. Yeah, and I
hear you saying sort of the same thing. But I
deserve to be happy too. And it's amazing that you're
twenty five.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Yeah, I just turned twenty six April. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But it's just amazing that you have that. Are your
siblings in the same boat with you?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, I think that like some of my siblings, that
like took them a little bit longer to feel that way.
My dad hasn't really dated, like he kind of dated
like one or two ladies, but it was very like
kind of I don't think that he fully felt like
he could date them because he always felt guilty about
it because he feels like, no one's going to replace
your mom. And it's like, we know that no one's
going to replace our mom, but it's going to be
(16:44):
a different love and it's going to be, you know,
something that you deserve that you know, we just wanted
to be happy and like find a best friend like
how he was with my mom as well.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
That that's unbelievably perfect what you just said.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
It is.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
It is all.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
You've got a great family. I met both of your
brother your sisters. They're all beautiful people, and I think
they all encourage him.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I agree with.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Okay, Susan, I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to
horn in then on it, so what I can go
younger Kelsey. The other thing that I wanted to talk
to and I think I actually mentioned this to you
at your finale, but why would you remember you talked
about the butterflies coming during and that is the same
(17:26):
thing when my husband died, yellow butterflies came and and
you know that's I felt such a strong connection. I
still do when the butterflies come. How do you how
do you connect with your mom? You know? And how
do you find ways for Joey to connect with your mom?
Which I know sounds a little strange, but you know,
(17:50):
anyone I did, I would want them sort of to
know my background and be part of my family.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
I love telling Joey's stories about my mom, Like whenever
anything like reminds me of her, I love to tell
him stories. I think that that's how I feel like
Joey kind of connects with my mom. He also got
me this little butterfly necklace of Valentine's Day.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Which is really sweet.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I know he's a keeper.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
He was really sweet, but yeah, I think that I
think that Joey understands the type of woman my mom
was to me, just from like the stories and the
videos that I show him, and like of her just
dancing and making up songs and dance moves and all
these things, like she was always laughing and very positive.
My siblings will say like that I'm like the most
(18:38):
like her in a.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
Lot of ways.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
I think that we all have like our little quirks
that are like our moms but are like our mom.
But yeah, I definitely resemble my mom the most out
of all of us too, so that's kind of it
feels special.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
She's beautiful, She's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I just love you and him together, and I think
your whole family is blessed and his family.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Guys, we wish nothing but the best.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So we have some fan questions to go through and
we give advice, and Kelsey here is going to give
her advice as well.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Are you ready ready?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
All right?
Speaker 1 (19:15):
This one is from Sean. He's forty four from Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Hello, mad Rouge.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
That's close to close to you, that's sure.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Hello, ladies, I have a question. I'm looking for some
advice on my wife and I have been together for
ten years, and she's eight years younger than me. We
met when we were thirty four and twenty six, and
now we're forty four and thirty six. When we met,
she thought she wanted kids and just said she wasn't
(19:44):
ready yet. Now she said she isn't sure anymore about
wanting children, but I still do. I know people can
change their mind, and she was young when we met,
but this is becoming really difficult for me. As I
always saw myself as a dad. She is one my
person and we are deeply in love. So I don't
(20:07):
know if I need to walk away from a relationship
that makes me so happy, or if I can continue
in our marriage and let go of the resentment. I
know this is a difficult situation, so any advice is welcome.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Thank you for your wisdom.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Wow, Kelsey, we didn't say this was going to be easy.
We were just y'all.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Your first one is.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Okay. We can ask you that question, Susan, I can answer.
You can tell us how we have beautiful hair, can
get beautiful hair?
Speaker 4 (20:37):
No, I don't know how would I answered that.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I feel like that's so hard because you you know,
I feel like he's always going to think of like
the what if of like, oh what if I didn't like,
what if I had kids?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
What if? Whatever?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
That's hard, But it's his.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But if it's your person, you know, then how dare
you walk away? No?
Speaker 3 (20:55):
You just yeah, Oh, guys, I don't know. I mean.
I got Mary Kelsey very young. I was twenty, and
we knew we wanted children, but we purposely because I
was so young and we were traveling and doing my
husband's in the military, a whole bunch of things. So
I was married almost eight and a half years before
(21:15):
I had my first child. But I can say that
if someone wants a child and they and the other
partner says no, that resentment is going to build. Yeah,
and the person that you love so much today, maybe
the person that you resent, you know, two years from
now when you decided or she decides it's too late
(21:38):
and doesn't want children, you know, Susan, I was waiting
for your big s word. They have to talk about it, Nick,
I mean, that's what I would say. You really have
to talk about it, and.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Absolutely that would be But Sean, I wish you the best.
But if you're that much in love with her and
she's your person, just keep talking about it.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Wait a minute, do you not think if he's asking
he said, I don't know if I need to walk
away from a relationship, he's obviously thinking about walking away.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I know that entered his mind because he wants to
be a dad so bad.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Well, okay, let's go.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
On, go on, Sean. We wish you all the luck, Yeah,
we do. Okay. This one is from Alyssa. She's thirty
one and she's from San Francisco. Hi, Kathy and Susan.
(22:34):
Love you both, and I'm hoping you can give me
advice on this. I met my boyfriend last summer while
traveling in Europe. We instantly connected and it felt unlike
any of my past relationships. Since my trip, we have
been going back and forth, visiting each other in our
respective cities, San Francisco and Rome. I know, really, I mean,
(22:55):
sounds perfect to me. Okay, I am thirty one years
old and really think this could be my person. But
we still feel a bit far off from moving for
each other because our relationship is still fairly new. We
talk about it, but it still feels like a thing
in the future. I want to get married and have
kids and worry that this could all implode. We really
(23:17):
love each other and are both doing everything to make
it work, but will the distance be the end of us.
We have started looking for jobs in each other's cities,
but it feels like a long road and very difficult.
Any advice is greatly appreciated. I don't have any friends
who have been in this situation. Been loving the podcast.
I hope it goes on forever. Well. Thank you listen,
(23:40):
so do it. Okay, come on, Kelsey, this is right
up your alley.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What do you say, girl?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah? How long have they been together?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Last summer? So you know, it sounds like it's coming
up by a year, almost a year.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
I don't see.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
It's like it's funny because in normal situations, I'd be like, yeah,
just keep doing in a long distance. If it's gonna work,
it's gonna work. I don't think that you need to
like rush things. But at the same time, like, I
just got gig together, So I'm like, you know, if
that's your person, like, you know, make the big move
if you feel like that's your person, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I think they should decide what they want more San
Francisco or Rome. Because they're young, they have to work,
they need careers.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
So decide what you want to do and who's going
to do it. Yeah, but don't give up on it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, we give up on it.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Wait are you? I'm sorry I blanked out it the
first second. Are you guys saying like I would say, one,
if you pick up and move and I don't care,
I mean personally i'd go to Rome. Yeah, but but
I mean a year doesn't seem like an unreasonable amount
of time for them to make that decision. Does it
to anyone else?
Speaker 4 (24:49):
No, I don't think it's no. No, I feel like
that's a long girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Go for it.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
And then by the time you actually probably have everything
together with a job and like where you're gonna move
and everything's probably be year and a half so.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
And they are starting to look so yeah, keep that
baby keeping.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
All right, Well, good luck to you, all right, I
think we have time for one more. Hi, Kathy and Susan.
I'm twenty four and I got married this year in
Michigan to my absolute best friend and the man who
is always in my corner. It was a small courthouse wedding,
but we're planning on doing a big wedding in the
near future. He's not a citizen, so we have to
(25:25):
work on green card things first and foremost. My friend
that I have asked to be my matron of honor
was not happy about the wedding and thought I needed
to take more time to make my decision. She tends
to think I can't make my own life decisions because
I'm human and have made mistakes. Ultimately, she just wants
to protect me because she was there. She didn't smile
(25:47):
the whole time and didn't say a word to my husband.
I don't know how to tell her that I didn't
appreciate it and that I understand that it was from
a place of love, but I don't know how to
start the conversation. It made my husband really mad that
she did that to us and said he doesn't think
she should be at our next wedding if she can't
be kind to him or support us. Please help me.
(26:09):
I love your podcast and the both of you, and
I think you'd be the best equipped to give me
this advice.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Oh I know what to do, baby, yep, Okay, well
let's go ahead.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
So I'm like, if she's your best friend, she should
be happy for you, right, Like I mean, if you
had your question, if she had said something to you
and you were like, you know, no, like I'm going
to continue with this wedding and did it. I feel
like she should just support you with that. I mean
like with my girlfriends. I remember we didn't like one
of my girlfriend's boyfriends an ex that they had, and
(26:40):
we told her and then she was like, well, I'm
going to steal date up and then we're like, okay,
you can make your own decisions and that's that, and
then we became friends with him.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
It was cool, but we like, initially it was like
we didn't really feel that way. I told her.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
She was like, I don't care, and she could make
her own decisions, you know. But I think that your
friend should support you and be happy for you, especially
on your wedding day.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Right, And she's afraid to say something to her, So
if she's your real friend, then you should say something
to her.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
Well, Susan I thought, she said, I don't know how
to start the conversation. I thought of you, Susansane, just
say it.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, get to the point came here.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
You know, I would write it out.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Maybe first you think about the point you want to
talk about.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Yeah, that's a good idea that you can try that.
I think the most important thing, though, is you have
found your person. Make sure you put him first and
foremost in your life. That's that's the most important thing. Hopefully, Yeah,
retain this friendship. But golly, how lucky are you that
you found your person? Congrats?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
One last question?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Do you have a best for Kathy and I?
Speaker 5 (27:46):
I know you are so fun and I mean, you
have been putting yourselves out there so much.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
I just continue to do that.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
I like it seems like such an amazing experience for
you ladies that I think that's it's like kind of
like a new you get a new on life.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
What would your advice be, feared Dad, Because that's where
I was. I thought, that's a question. I want to know,
what's your advice here? At you? You know you were on.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
Yeah, I'm like, do it all, you know, be yourself
and experience it all. Be true to yourself. I feel
like that's how I went through. It was just like
step by step, but I just was very honest about,
you know, what I was feeling. I wasn't like I
love Joey the first day because I didn't. But whenever
I did feel those feelings, I said them.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
But I don't know if.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
I just want him to be open to all the
experiences that come with it and be open with his.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Heart and be true to himself, be himself authentically, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I think that's all great advice. But I also think
if we're being honest, you have to remember there isn't
that much time always, right, Yeah, you have to jump
in pretty quickly.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, I think you just embrace it all you know
what I mean, Like you go through it and you
embrace it all, like every single step, and you like
give it your all. I feel like you talk about
all the things that are pressing and that like the
big things about yourself. Joey and I always talk like
we literally dated and verse. You know, we talked about
all the big things, and then now we're finding out
all the little.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Things, which is the important thing.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, I just have to ask one more question. What
was the first big thing you told Joey.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
I told Joey about all my all my like my family,
and oh I told him.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I think the biggest thing.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
One of the first big things I told him was
that I really wanted to adopt and that was a
non negotiable for me. So if he wasn't open to that,
then I couldn't be here. But interesting, yeah, so I
was like, that's a non negotiable for me. I just
feel it, like in my soul that I have to
like adopt at least one kid.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And you had that one as well. Yeah yeah, okay,
but YE want to adopt one.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Yeah, I mean I want like a million kids. Joey
only once like two. He's like, it's easier to travel.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
So I'm like, okay, it is no, no, no no, here's
the deal. Here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Adopted families.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
No no, no, he'll get this. He will. He's a
sports guy. You tell him that. It's you go for
three kids, because is when you have two kids, it's
a manned a man defense. When you go to three,
it's a zone defense. I'll tell you you go to
zone once you have Once you have two, you can
go to three or four. It's perfect, you'll get.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I feel like it was harder with three because I
had twins after my first my daughter, and then I
had twin boys, and five is so much more difficult.
Not everybody gets to sit next to mommy one on
each side, or dad. You know there was always that.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Yeah, there were seven in my crew.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well that's like beyond yeah seven, you have seven.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
You have six siblings, Kelsey, I have five siblings. So
like when my mom was aro out, yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Didn't you love the big family?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I love it. Yeah, I love everyone yelling over each other.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
You're like Italians down there.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Listen up, Joey, while you're drinking your Cafe Dumont. You're
having more than two kids.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
So one of the things I saw out there on
our Instagram and such. I love how you make Joey
war the eyepath not make him, but he's.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Joining you with the ie gel patches. That was so cute.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
He like wants to do all the skincare stuff. I've
been like helping him.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
He's like, do I use this because of like my
skin's like this, like and I'm like, yeah, babe, or you.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Can do this and you can try this serum, and
he's like so into it. He loves it.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
I love it and care take care of his skin.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yes, right.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
The biggest thing is using sunscreen, right, he knows.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Yes, I've been telling him, but he thinks that. He's like,
he's like, I don't get so burned. I don't need it.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
I'm like, that's not even one. Yes, he literally gets
some burnt so bad. But also it's like you need
it because it's gonna like, I don't know, prect your
skin and.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Get like this because I never used it until later
in life. We get a little pink and then it's
instantly brown.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, I'm the same way.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
I mean, like he has like his Italian jeans, I
have my Hispanic jeens so like we're both pretty so
our tans by Yes Tony Sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Always do yes.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
All right, Well listen on that happy note. That does
it for this episode of Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour.
Thank you to our lovely and gorgeous woman friend Kelsey
for joining us and dishing out some great advice. You
are wives beyond your years, Kelsey, Kelsey and you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Thank you for coming and chatting with us.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
We love you, Kelsey, We love you and your gorgeous hair.
Thank you so much for joining us, and be sure
to follow Bachelor Happy Hour as we have new episodes
coming out every week and we don't want you to
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Speaker 1 (32:38):
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