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November 3, 2022 • 29 mins

Jessica and Bryan pour a drink or two of whisky and pickle juice and debate the merits of robots in golf and the bedroom. Jessica creates an amazing gift and Bryan announces another podcast?

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to Balls and Holes, Jessica Bows and Brian
pest around and we're back. We were recording, we're recording.
Oh my god, you got both of us. Welcome back.
Today's episode is brought to us by pickle Back. Pickleback

(00:26):
is a Scotch whiskey followed by pickle juice. Cheers, baby cheers,
baby clinking. Guys. We have no agenda tonight. It's kind
of fun. Uh, today's Saturday. We're recording on a Saturday,
which we typically do. Uh, but typically we kind of
plot out what we're going to talk about. Yeah, we

(00:47):
have no idea, but I have some idea. No, I'm
sure you do. I've been listening. What No, we're not
going to just dive right into that. Okay, you want
to set something up. Let Uh, well we've been gone.
You've been gone. Where were you? Where was I? Where

(01:08):
was I? Where were you? Baby? I was was that
on a trip like golfing? I was on a golf trip. Okay,
you're on a golf trip. Um. We have somewhat recovered
from our hack. This is like the first couple of
days that I haven't received an email from Meta or
some sort of backlash. I still can't run ads, Um,

(01:31):
did you just spit that back in? We are drinking
drink jamison. Now we're drinking with pickle back chaser, which
is pickle juice. We just switched over to bourbon bourbon
and pickle juice. It was it's Saturday. We ran errands
separately today. Yeah, I didn't even work out. I didn't.
I did spend about four hours at Roger Done though. Today.
It's funny because I left the house kind of pissy,

(01:55):
and you were like, I'm gonna go do ship and
I was like, I'm gonna go do ship. And I
wasn't pissed at you. I was just pissy and role
and I went to go round errand's. I almost burnt
the house down last night, right, Yeah, there was a
beautiful candle that I bought from this lovely store here
in Los Angeles, and I left it running while that
we were walking the dogs, and uh, we came home
to a full on fire in the candle itself. That

(02:16):
about caught the house on fire. Could have been bad.
So I want to go return that. So can I
just talk about what I wanted to talk about? I mean,
do you like I guess yes. So I've been listening
to No Puts Given. It's another podcast, which is great.
I'm a big fan of My golf By. They are
a golf review company that reviews gear, and they are

(02:36):
unbiased golf company that are super impartial, and they their
whole premises, don't buy the ship that everyone markets. You
to buy this stuff that actually works, and they test
over and over with various people of various handicaps, and
then they have like their My Golf's By Best, just
like golf Di just has their gold and silver and

(02:58):
they're so good because it's just gear. And basically it
comes down to, yeah, some of the good stuff that's
out there that's really really popular are really good, but
not all the time. Sometimes it's these no name brands.
And that's what I love so much about him. And
I'm telling everyone to listen to No Puts Given. So
you're out at like Roger Donald Day today and you're
just telling everybody to go listen to No Puts Given.

(03:19):
I did tell Darby to go listen to No PUDs Given.
I I just like it. Let me, can I just
tell you something. I want to have a segment with
Darby and I talking about gear. Oh wait, is this
where like we were on the Doglog last night and
you told me this whole wish that you have, and
I was like, we should just go ahead and incorporate
that into an extra episode each week, so that it

(03:41):
was your idea. But here's my big problem, and Darby
said it. We watch YouTube videos and we listen to
podcasts that deal with statistics and numbers, right, so that
deal with actual carry averages or distances or whatever. But
it's in YouTube big most likely that shows them. I'd

(04:02):
arrangement a launch monitor with a simulator and you get
to see their shots, and that's what we really care about.
But I'm I'm gonna x nate on all of that. Really,
I'm gonna tell you why why it doesn't matter us.
If I had it my way with Darby, you and I,
it would be a robot. And my golspy has a robot.

(04:23):
It is a robot golf that you can put any
club into it and has the exact saying speed, dimensions,
lining does That is what I want to see. I
don't give a ship about someone who had a good
day or a bad day that's reviewing a club and
he's hitting in a simulator and hitting bombs, or he's
not hitting good. It's the it's the human error. Why

(04:46):
don't we just review clubs with a electronic robot, computer
generated perfectly, mathematically correct, exactly the ball speed. I want
a miss it, we can put that in or right
on the flush, right in the middle. That's what I wanted. Okay,
I love it. I'm a fucking science nerd. I love it.

(05:08):
But I'm going to tell you why it's not real life.
It is real life. That's if you hit a perfect show.
I don't want to have to be dependent on a
human error or human person hitting their club. Why don't
we go, Okay, this type of handicap has this swing speed,
this handicap has this swing speed, and the best handicap

(05:28):
has this one. And then you put the damn club
in there and you hit it with a robot exactly
the same every time. That's the information I wanted. I'm
gonna give you the perfect argument for this, Mr lawyer.
Look at what happened to me yesterday. You've watched me
for a year play struggle do really well too, better
than most. I went and had one lesson? What did
I keep telling you something is wrong with my swing

(05:51):
mechanic right, like, something is off right, I go, I
have one lesson. It fixes everything. The entire eight nine
month it's whatever. It's been of a hundred forty games
that I've been playing. I have struggled with distance on
my irons. You see me. I'm strong, as fun, I'm crazy,
I'm powerful. It's not coming through in my swing. I

(06:12):
went and had one lesson. It fixed it. I hit
my irons further than I've ever hit them in my life.
Yesterday I had, like such a great game. That's a
perfect example, right, like you have to do with a
golf review, You're talking about the robot and the perfect swing,
and you know over and over and over and all
these analytics that come with it, like ship changes. I'm

(06:33):
arguing that it's real life. I'm not saying to have
the perfect swing on every robot you can. You can
um program this robot to have a swing speed just
like yours, right, but even as okay, but even as
of yesterday, I feel like my swing speed, although probably
didn't change the power behind it, did like something happened.

(06:55):
You watched it. I've been swinging the club the same way,
but now I fix something and I'm getting more yards
on my drive. I'm getting like it's very happy for you.
But what I'm saying is that there's human dynamic in
gear review and if you just have a freaking robot,

(07:18):
let me. Let's just take a potter for example. You
have a putter. Putter is usually go about three miles
pro right, you get forty putters, You put it in
the robot, the same exact swing speed over and over again.
See which one straight or see the ball, the role,
the speed, the true role of it, all of that.
Why don't we do it that way? Well, I can

(07:39):
say that we just need the robot because we have
forty plus potters in our house. Mike, I just burnt
my golf spy has a robot, has a robot. Here's
the point. I'm done with people hitting into simulators and
telling me what they think that the club can do.

(08:00):
I'd rather I believe a robot. Why are you making
that face? I wish people could see me making this
face as I drink this drink. It's really good. Just
listen to me. Please, a robot on. You can can
program a robot to do mishits. You can do a
program to do it on the heel, the toe, the center.
You can have a robot, but at least it will

(08:22):
be consistent and controlled. And if you did that with
every club manufacturer out there, we will know true results.
We will know that a seven iron Mazzuno and a
seven iron Wilson denied and a seven hour title list.
There's a difference, and you can control it. It has
to be controlled p You know why because these reviewers

(08:43):
can afford robots, so they have to do it in
a simulator. And you know what if that, I want data,
I want repeatable, controlled data. And again I understand and
support the science behind what it is you want. And
I will argue and continue to argue it's not real life.
It might not be real life, but it is consistent.

(09:06):
You can say there's nothing consistent about playing golf. There is.
If I do twenty shots, you can find out what
my swing speed is on a seven iron or a driver. Right,
let's just say it's a hundred and eleven miles Prower
on a driver. That is what my swing speed is
on a driver. You take that hundred and eleven, you
put in the robot, you get thirteen manufacturers of drivers,

(09:28):
and you do the exact same swing speed over and
over again, and whichever goes further is the club I
should choose. Okay, all right, so you want a robot?
Can we get this robot to do other things? I
told you my prediction is robots are going to replace men.
So can we get a golf robot and a sex robot? Do? Sex?
Robots are gonna replace men. They're gonna have bigger dicks

(09:49):
than us. They're gonna do exactly what you say how
to do it. They're gonna cook you breakfast. I'm going
to be replaced by a robot. Okay, so I have
full like, okay by you to go ahead and order
the golf and sex robot. Listen to me, robot cheating
is not cheating. I don't think. I am so happy
to hear you say this, because you say that like

(10:12):
looking and smiling at people is cheating. And I've been
talking about sex robots for a long time. You have
not I have to what. Yeah, you're lying. I tell
Jessica that um, smiling is cheating, winking and cheating, being
friendly's cheating. But if it was with a robot, I'm
okay with that. Really Yeah, yeah, robot like everyone Jessica

(10:37):
does hit the keyboard pretending to be a robot and
erased what we thought was erased. Are just our eleven
minutes a podcast so far? What a dark Thank God
for undo. I can't believe I just did that. I
was insane. This is really strong whiskey. That's really good.

(10:57):
All right, well, I think this is the perfect point
to take a break. Hi, Brian back, Thanks Jessica. Jessica
just asked if we should talk about that we're in therapy.
There was an incident where I made a stupid text
message and now we're talking to a therapist. If anyone

(11:21):
heard Jessica's last podcast on balls and Hole, she did
it by herself. That is a big thing. Yeah, it
was pretty good. I thought, well, I appreciate that. I
think that you were just telling me that in order
to not like piss me off. But I will say this,
and today I actually received another one of these calls.
And I'm not trying to like horn too. It on
my horn or glot my own self or what's the

(11:44):
word be condescinding or I don't that's the wrong word.
Self conceded. I have. I will say this though it's
all come from like my gaggle of best friends who
have listened to my girls gaggle um, but it's been
really cool, Like Manasci and reached out and was like,

(12:05):
oh my god, you did awesome. It was so cool
to hear a stream of consciousness. Uh, you did a
really great job. It wasn't like you were talking to yourself.
And I gotta tell you, like, I'm turned. I want
to play golf. Brianna called me today and she's like,
I listened to your stuff all the time because I
miss you so much. And she's across the United States
and we never get to see each other, but she was.

(12:28):
She gave me such compliments on my lone episode. I
will say, as of right now, it is the least
listen to episode, but I'm gonna blame that on the
fact that we were dead in the water and yeah,
we didn't exist. So I'm very proud of you, and
I hope that listeners listen because I listened to it
and I thought it was great. I thought it was
pretty decent too. I mean I cussed a lot. It's

(12:49):
pretty real, it's pretty raw, but it did spawn the
idea of, you know, we have this great podcast. We
have this platform. You and I get to talk about
our relationship. We get to talk about golf, we get
to talk about all the thing as we talk about.
But we also have our counterpart, Derby, who joined us
and continues to join us as our left handed, lovely

(13:09):
lefty lefty. I love Derby. So coming back to the
robot thing, What that was rude? What? What did you
want to say about Darby? I just want to say that,
like he's part of our jam and like that. You
guys are gonna now put out extra episodes where you
talk about gear and on. You didn't hear what I
was about to say. It was about to say exactly

(13:30):
that about the robot. We Darby and I can talk
green in the face about gear and our opinions on
gear and what we think. It doesn't matter because without
a robot, it's just our opinion. I want raw data
from a robot. Want sex robot. Okay, we already did that. Listen,

(13:52):
we're gonna I'm gonna have Darby on and we're going
to talk about Gear. Were you guys gonna call your
episodes lefty and righty? Lefty and righty because Darby he's
the left of your righting, Yeah, he's a left handed
I'm righty, Okay, that's just that's just um, that's not
in concrete. That's what is it called. When you just
do it temporarily, you suck. You're not helping me here.

(14:17):
That's just a placement a title. Right now, we're not
sure what we're going to call it. Well, I like
this idea though, because you know, look, we cover all
the aspects, right We talk about ourselves, we talk about
our experiences. We talked about Gary, we talked about whatever
the funk we want to talk about. And now you
guys are gonna have an episode where you guys can
talk to our episodes that you guys can talk about specifically,

(14:38):
what's going on in your crazy narcissistic? Why narcissistic? It
is why you're drunk? No, no no, no, it's a little
narcissistic ego. It's a little ego maniacal Are you kidding me?
It's us giving us our opinion, giving each other our opinion. Yes, please,

(15:00):
perfect example. Today we both went and ran Errand's. You
went to Roger Dunn and among other places. I when
you win a million other places. We both went a
million of places on a fucking Saturday. It was terrible.
You text me, I'm on my way home. What did
I do? You don't know what it did because you
weren't here. Brian texts me I'm on my way home,
to which I get excited. I'd gone off. I bought

(15:21):
Brian this amazing gift right like amazing gift today. It
was such a like personally curated gift that I was like, oh,
this is gonna be amazing. He texted me out of nowhere.
I know he's at Roger Dunne. I mean, like when
I don't know where he's at, that's where he's at.
And he says, oh my god, blah blah blah, I'm
on my way home to which is the digner for

(15:41):
me that I'm like, Okay, I am now going to
take off all my clothes, let all the candles burn
some incense, set up the gift, and lay out and like,
welcome my golfer, amazing husband home. Cut to thirty minutes
goes by, which is like as far as any golf
shop is from our house. Uh, he's not here. Hour

(16:01):
goes by, a text, bro, where are you at? Where
were you at? This is what your text said? You
sent a picture a banded our German shepherd. Where are you?
You said you were on your way home an hour ago.
You're an idiot. I was literally laying here naked in
the living room with candles, incense, present, pussy and a
drink waiting for you, and then a flip off finger

(16:22):
a middle finger, which I responded, I'm sorry, babe. I
was at Roger Dunn. If I knew that you were
in that present, say, I would have ran home, drove home,
flew home. I had to be there at Roger Dune
to make a return in some exchanges. And then my
friend Yanni came in, and then we started talking golf,

(16:42):
and then um other customers came in. I was going
to sell my TSR two and TSR three drivers to
these to these customers. And I didn't know that you
were waiting for me naked at home, and I thank
you for that. And as soon as I figured that
out and you told me, you called me with you know,
then you called You're an idiot, asshole, come home on naked.

(17:04):
I ran home. I left my car there. I ran
like and you came home and found a very beautiful
clean house and sincelit candleslit music, going an amazing present,
and and drinks and drinks. We're drinking right now as
you can tell tell everyone what our her present was.

(17:29):
I know that anybody will. I don't care. We were
We walked the dogs every night at eight o'clock. We
have a German shepherd and a kream Gindo. They're awesome dogs.
Bandit and cut you. We walked by on Verdugo and
there is a tree that smells so good. I mean,
it is incredible. It's overwhelming the smell. It's a new
like little John that we take because you had happened

(17:50):
to do it while I was out of town and
you were in the doghouse. But anyway, uh so when
I came home from out of town, you were like,
we have to go walk this different way. There's this tree.
It smells magical, it's majestic, and I was like, okay,
fucking let's let's do this. So he takes me on
this new walk. We walk by this house. It's about

(18:11):
a half block out of our way, but it's very
near our house, and it's this giant tree and it
smells so phenomenal. It's the best smell. Like we go
and now every night we walk the dogs in order
to smell the smell. It's a fruit tree, it is.
We weren't sure if it's grapefruit or ponzo. We didn't

(18:33):
know what the funk it was. It looks like a
meyer lemon tree. But then we found a fruit on
the ground and looked like a nectary. It did, and
we smelled it, and we're like, God, this is so weird.
None of this makes sense. Come to I'm out today
running stupid errands on a Saturday with everybody else and
their mother who runs errands on a Saturday, which I
do not recommend, especially in Los Angeles. It's just like anyway,

(18:57):
I go to return the candle that I almost burnt
the house down with Yesterda, just to tell the guy like, hey,
I love these candles. I by him all the time,
but I almost literally burnt my house down. And across
the street is one of my favorite stores, Phoebe Peacock.
It is a scent bar, which is a place that
you go that has all kinds of little wonderful trinkets
and oddities, but they have an entire bar in the back,

(19:17):
much like an alcohol bar, but it is a scent bar.
So you go in and you sit down. You typically
make an appointment and you say, I want to make
a scent that smells like X, Y and Z. So
I go in there, I see my friend Jennifer, who
owns it. I'm like, guys, do you have any appointments?
They're like no. I'm like great, I'm here. There's this
tree around the corner from my house. It smells like X,

(19:38):
Y and Z. We walked back every night. It's so intoxicating.
My husband's in love with the smell. We have to
recreate it so that I can surprise him. They're over
the fucking moon. They're like, this is the most thoughtful,
coolest gift we've ever thought of. Like, let's sit down.
So I sit down. I make this amazing concoction, and
what I fucking nailed it. We're sitting here right now

(20:00):
smelling ourselves because we haven't spread all everyone. I want
to tell you what it's called. She called it Verdugo
citrus because the trees on Verdugo Avenue or boulevard or avenue.
I don't know. I have it on me, guys. It
is red grapefruit. Well, it's a grapefruit us and sea
salt blend. That's what it is, guys. I'm smelling it

(20:20):
on me. It is the best smell it. I don't
know how to say it, but it just makes me
super happy. I get really good gifts. That is a
great gift. Remember when you gave us a gift of
our first year anniversary and it was a picture book
of all of days of our life. It was really
thought pretty good. You're a thoughtful gift giver. You're better

(20:41):
Um um, what are you relationship partner partner than I am? Really? Yeah,
you give better gifts. Okay, guys, we're going to take
a break. We're gonna come back with Mulligan's. Okay, We're

(21:03):
back everyone, guys. This is an interesting episode. We just
we just went with the seat of our pants. We
just started drinking whiskey and pickle juice and said whatever
we wanted to say. Again. Our podcast is sponsored by Picklebacks,
Pickle Backs, Whiskey and pickle Juice. Can I just talk
about my most all of my mulligans is about Gear?

(21:26):
Can I just talk about what this week has been
interesting about Gear. I've gone through Cobra one lengths back
to my Wilson D nine to my two red C
five two to my tilets T four hundreds to the
TSR three t SR two driver both hate him and
went back to my exexio X driver. I also got

(21:47):
a xexio x for hybrid twenty degrees amazing. But I
want to tell you everyone what just happened today about
my putter. I just bought the brand new, brand brand
new Wilson in Staff eight eight zero two putter. For
those of you that don't know what this putter is,
it is the most basic putter you've ever seen in

(22:10):
your life. It is extraordinarily thin, It has no alignment aid.
It is just like a piece of metal. Please look
it up and you will know what I'm talking about.
I have a lot of putters just and we always
talk about my putters. But I just went today and
I've been waiting for this thing to come out because
this is kind of a collector's item. Most of these

(22:30):
Wilson they're called like NAPA style putters, come out and
people find them at their stores and they keep them
and they're worth a lot of money. Well, Wilson was
smart enough this year in two two to actually come
out with a brand new one, and I bought. It
was three dollars and is like this little nothing putter
but has no alignment aid like I said, and it
is just very thin. It's kind of what like, It's

(22:52):
like the most basic putter you could imagine. Yeah, Phil
Mickelson uses something similar to it, but he uses Odyssey.
I bought it, guys. I'm playing Sandy tomorrow with Scotty,
Jess and Darby and I'm going to play with it.
I literally broke down when I was at Roger Done
today and I just said, this is the stupidest putter
I've ever bought in my life. It is the most
basic thing in the world. But it might be it

(23:14):
might work. Okay. First of all, I'm really sorry, Sam Han.
Second of all, Sam, Sam, you haven't came out with
your blade putter yet and I'm waiting for it. Okay,
So in the meantime, I'm going to buy other putters. Look,
I I tested it out today. It's pretty amazing. I
love it. It's simple, it's sleek, it's sexy. There's no

(23:35):
like frills, no frills, no frills, and it works. I mean, look,
I'm never going to step away from my mess period.
I was at Rogers that I have the other day.
By the ways, that's pretty good. I was that. I
was at Roger Done today and hold on and they
said have you heard of mes putters? Like, oh, yeah,

(23:56):
have you heard of our podcast? And he's some one
who knows me. He goes, yeah, I think I heard
that one. He goes, yeah, that's like the easiest partter
to use. Said, yeah, the easiest putter to you. Okay,
I don't think it's a matter of easiest putter because
it's so simple. It does it for you, jess, is
what he was saying. Why are you so mad? What's happening?
I just feel like, you know, that was a compliment

(24:17):
to lab golfing men. I mean, it's it is easy,
it is amazing, it's wonderful, but it's science. It's fucking science.
And the fact that I had twenty eight pots for
eight teen holes the other day, it's amazing. It's because
the mess Well, I'm happy for you. They're not so
part of my mulligan. As well as that we might
have a special segment with Darby and we'll have a

(24:38):
special segment with you and Darby and we're just going
to talk about gear. As I said, it was the
preface is that nothing really matters what we say if
there's no robot robot controlling this, but it will be
our subjective opinion on what we think on the new clubs,
so new podcast that will come out alongside Balls and Holes,
Lefty and Righty discussing gear only still up for debate

(24:59):
whether or not get a sex robot. I don't know
what's my mull again? Are you're asking me what yours? Is? Wow?
I wish you could all see this right now, the
look that I'm getting. How about um? Like the courses
we played, and we we played some different courses, how
about sand Canyon? What what mulligan? Do you want? Sand Canyon?

(25:22):
As hard as that courses, you still scored low. It's
a hard fucking course. It's a course that, like from
our inception of all of this, we joined, and I
mean when we joined it was in mid winter winds.
I think like the biggest thing I had to get
used to was that I really started to play golf

(25:44):
and learn what it was I was doing in some
of the harshest climates. It was windy, it was crazy,
it was rainy, it was I was nuts. And then
like summer came along and it was like the wind
died down and everything. I don't know. I feel like
my game's in kind of an awesome spot. I feel
pretty awesome. After my lesson the other day, I knew
there was an issue. I fixed it, and then yesterday

(26:05):
I went out and played. And here's my biggest problem.
My biggest problem is that I've got to go out
and figure out how far my irons actually go, like
I'm finally in with the boys. Like I was hitting
iron shots yesterday after my lessons that were like hundred
sixty hundred, seventy hundred and eighty yards. I don't have
a club that will do that. I mean, I have

(26:26):
my three wood that will do that, but an iron
I was rolling out to two hundred yesterday. You were,
and I was very impressed. As I said in on
that lesson. Let me just tell everyone, Jess is a
good golfer. But most of her clubs were going if
it wasn't been a huge problem. Everything was going on
a hundred yards. It was stupid. If it was in
her woods, it didn't matter what it was, and it

(26:46):
was a yards no matter what. So now she figured
out it was a thumb issue. It was a thumb issue,
and now she's hitting I mean it was it was
a couple of different issues. It was a neat issue,
it was a thumb issue. It was a weight distribution
distribution shoe. But I have to say, like I spent
my entire lesson working on my irons, which then proceeded.

(27:06):
We went out and I slammed my driver into the
ground on whole one and two. Okay, so let me
just say something. Jessica needs no help with her driver
because of the thumb issue and her swing mechanics now
that have changed because of that lesson, she was hitting
drives she never has yesterday. You have never had a
problem with your drivers and they're straight and your driver

(27:29):
and you're putting you don't need any help with It
was just your irons. And now that you got that
figured out, you're gonna figure out. So yesterday I went
and played. I had nine greens in regulation, which is
the most amount of greens in regulation I've ever had. Like,
yesterday's round was stellar. Lucas Allensworth driving nuts. But I
gotta tell you you got something that's her coach. By
the way, It's not some other dude. Now, it's not

(27:51):
some other dude. Lucas Allensworth is my my, my coach,
my pro He's fucking amazing. Uh. I stick with this
dude because he looks at you within like two seconds,
sees what you're doing, takes some crazy video while you
don't even know he's video and you and analyzes you
in like point two seconds and tells you exactly what

(28:11):
you're doing wrong. And then you fix it. And it's
like we were texting back and forth last night and
it's like what he figured out yesterday is not a
quick fix. It's not a band aid. Like this is
going to change my game forever. Like to get nine
greens and regulation I never make it in and two
shots on a par four right like and then I
have two pots like usually I'm down to one pot
and like the pressure is on. It's it was a

(28:33):
game changer. I'm so excited to go play with the
Chosen Family tomorrow. We get Derby, we get Scotty. Like
I know you love playing with Derby. I'm so excited
to play with Scotty and out of him. Okay, like
he may wreck our cart, he may try and kill me,
but like I'm going to to absolutely annihilate him tomorrow.
I love when we play with the livings, both of them.

(28:54):
The Livians. Well, it's the Livians and the right Jess.
Where can they find us? They can find us after
the great hack on balls, the letter in Holes, golf,
Balls and Holes, golf on Instagram, On Twitter, Oh, we

(29:16):
don't even get to talk about Twitter. What do you
want to talk about? I don't know. I think it's awesome.
What's going on? There will be more stuff on Twitter. Well,
we'll talk about Twitter more, but Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, TikTok.
We've been talking about the TikTok. We need to get
more active on the TikTok. But thanks for golfling with me, Jess,

(29:37):
Thanks for golfing with me. I love you so much.
I'm so glad you're home. Balls and Holes is produced
and distributed by the eight Side Network.
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