May 27, 2025 • 53 mins
Kurt and Scotty talk about how psychopaths are more attractive, a woman falls into crevice trying to retrieve her cell phone, and a woman files for divorce after Chat GPT reads husbands affair in coffee grounds!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's got you ready for this one.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Oh, Kurty B. I'm ready to laugh and luff and laugh. Also,
I poured to Margarita.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
You part yourself from Margarita.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I I I just thought, it's noon, it's Tuesday. It's
you and me Margarita time.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I love that. I am very very happy for you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I was feeling boring. I had to spice it up
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And here it's a perfect title. Then psychopaths are more
attractive study wards.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Damn right, that's right, and I feel nothing about that.
So let's dive deep murder Bananas on a very cool
episode of Bananas.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
World, would you for your mindillion pieces, Johnny, Bananas.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Guys, gals, non binary pals, Welcome to Burnerer. I'm Kurt
Brown Oler.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm Banana Boy number two. Scottielanis. Thank you for listening
to the silliest little podcast over was. It's called Bananas.
It's strange news. It's storytelling. Sometimes we have guests, sometimes
we don't, but mostly it's just Kurtie B and I laughing, goofing, spoofing,
having a nice time. Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We're so happy to have you. It's a delightful time
to be alive. Yes, And even if it isn't right now,
it is because you're listening to bananas.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
All right. You got the bananas blinders on. They go
on your ears, they go on your eyes, and for
fifty minutes or so, put those banana blinders on. Cannonball
into this bliss pit of positivity.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I'm continuing my long run of trying to pick up
surfboard travel bags from around Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
How's it going Yesterday?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yesterday it was just like, oh, I have a two
and a half hour ride in the car there and
back to just pick up this this coffin bag, and
you know what, right at the top, I was like,
I'm just gonna listen to some podcasts I like, and
I'm gonna have a very nice time because it is
like having to drive somewhere at this point of my
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life is kind of the only time where it's like
I can't do anything else. I'm driving. This is all
I you know, and so it's like it's time to myself.
I enjoy it. I look forward to it. And then
by the end of it, I was ready to murder
everyone on the road because the traffic was so insane
(02:45):
in Los Angeles. But also, I was struck by its beauty.
It is a beautiful city. When you leave somewhere, you
all of a sudden, all the things, there's nothing, not
a single moment is taken for granted. And so I
encouraged people to just imagine, imagine that you're about to move,
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because then you will appreciate where you live suddenly so
much more.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's a great point. And a friend of the podcast
once asked me. She said she was leaving New York
after living there for like ten years, and she's like, Hey,
what are some good ideas for me to leave? And
I said, go to your favorite places, only don't worry
about going to the places you never went to, like oh,
I never got a chance to go to a Madison
Square garden. Like go to your favorite cafe, your favorite bar,
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your favorite place to sit and read. Go to your
favorite spots and just appreciate them and then leave.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, I remember there was there was a place in
New York City that I remember I did that with
you before I left, which was at the bottom I
believe it's at the bottom of Saint Mark's right at
Thompson Square Park.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I remember exactly where that is.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
There's a cafe on the corner, on the left hand
side corner if you're facing the park. And it was
probably the first cafe I ever walked into in New
York City, and I still to the moment I left
the city, it stayed exactly the same, which is incredibly
difficult for any place in New York City to stay
exactly the same because city banks are just drooling, They're
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just Dwayne reads are drooling to get in there. And
I went back and I sat and had a coffee
and I read a book just like I did when
I was twenty one years old, and it was delightful.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh man, Well, definitely text me on your cross country
drive when you reach because this always happens to me.
I've done cross country, I believe, I believe fourteen times.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And there comes a point, especially when you're driving alone,
where you uh no longer want to listen to music
or podcasts or Audible or any other books. All you
want to do is just think and text it to me.
It usually happens somewhere between Utah and Colorado. For Colorado,
and text me when you hit that point, because I
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think that's like a really interesting time when you're like now,
it's thinking time, and for you it'll be shower thoughts.
It'll be pure blue skying, creative. You'll probably come up
with great.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh, I'm definitely well. I'll be taking a whole ton
of notes.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Notes.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But also here's the things, here's the things that I
did not do living on the West Coast in twelve
years that I wish I had. I would like to
just speak the mounts. I never went to Catalina.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Crazy, you would lave it. I would love voted.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I know, it's just exactly. I never went to Yosemite.
Can you believe that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
That, even before you had kids, when it was just
you and Lauren, That is preposterous because when you live
in Los Angeles, it is the greatest couple's weekend you
can do because it is gorgeous. But I will say
it's been on firelight, yeah, three times since we've lived here.
So also, there's always serial killers up there. So hey,
maybe you guys dodged a proverbial bullet.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah. Those are the two that I think they will
weigh on me after moving back east, because it's like,
I'm never gonna go to Catalina. Do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You'll go to Yosemite.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'll probably go to Yosemite, but it'll be much more difficult.
What what do you fly into to if you fly
from the East coast to go.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
To Yo San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You fly to San Francisco. My god, and then it's
a four hours during Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It's close. I think you'll be back with the kids
on a great American RV trip one day. To me.
You know, if if John had wanted me to have
a whole litter of children, I would have packed them
into an RV and just driven Corner to corner, Nova
Scotia to Vancouver all the way down to Baja.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I have to figure out the West. I have to
figure out a way to win and over back into
RV's because I rented an RV early. It was a
shitty RV. It was. It was a poorly planned trip.
It was all my fault. This was also the trip
everyone where I told everyone that I was bringing mushrooms
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and we're going to Joshua Joshua Tree obviously, and I
told everyone bringing mushrooms and everybody's gonna have a great time.
Everybody's looking forward to that. And then my cousin was
coming and my cousin was sober, and then I just
got nervous about it. And then I just was like,
I'm not bringing them. But I didn't tell anyone that
I wasn't bringing the drugs. Fascinating, and so everyone gets
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there and I'm just like, oh, no, yeah, I no,
I didn't bring them. They're like, what the fuck are
you talking about. I'm in Joshua Tree and you said
you were bringing drugs and you did not bring drugs.
I was like, you know what. On reflection, yes, so
that is a problem. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, that was also the night that I mean rat party.
By the way, I loved it because I drove a
station wagon at the time that folded flat. So I
camped inside.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
My stake and dropped to thirty maybe dropped.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
To thirty and the winds picked up, and I looked
out the wind at one point and the tents of
all the friends that were camping in tents were blown flat, like.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
They against their bodies, against the people's bodies.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yes, And so they all got in your RV with
you in the morning. Yeah, there were like eight people
in that RV for two.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And then also, this is the worst part is that
not only was it a shitty RV, but also I
don't know what it was. But the in the middle
of the night, everybody was super drunk. I was super
drunk where I was because we had to because we
were just in the wind for like it was just
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thirty mile an hour wind and like thirty degrees. All
night long, no one had fun. And then we got
into the RV and this carbon monoxide alarm started going
off at like midnight and it would only stop if
I punched it. Oh my god, But I didn't know
what it was because we were just so drunk. We'd
already passed out. And so for I don't know, every
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twenty five minutes I would an alarm would go off,
I would punch it, it would stop, and then next
twenty five minutes it would go off. I would have
to punch it in stop. So no one slept. In
addition to all of that, great birthday, great birthday, that
was my first birthday in Los Angeles. I look forward
to making similar terrible mistakes once back. But once moving
back to it, like when I moved to Los Angeles,
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I didn't understand the West Coast at all. I feel
like I'm moving back to a place that I understand
very deeply.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You were the funniest in the first place you guys
rented that had that bathtub, shower, Oh, just a huge
window so the neighbors could just see full nudity.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Oh yeah, it was crazy how it was a crazy
It was so the bathroom was in like the middle
of the house. Not only did it have a I
would say six foot buy six foot picture window, and
then a gigantic jacuzzie shower tub that was like you
(10:09):
could fit four people across. Right, I've never seen a
wide like jacuzzi apartment in an apartment. Yeah, and it
was all green tile. And then there was a goddamn
fireplace in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Incredible gas fireplace.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
A gas fireplace with broken black glass on the bottom
of it.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That was like a contractor either had the most specific
fetish imaginable. He's like, I like to have sex with
three women at a time in front of an electric
a gas fireplace, electric fireplace while strangers watch, And he's like,
it's the only way it works for me anymore. Down below,
or it was all the stuff that was on sale
(10:49):
at a bargain contractor store, and it was like, I'll
grab that giant tub. I'll grab that piece of shit
fireplace seven x seven window, I'll buy it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So it's crazy. It was so called had no insulation.
The whole place had no insulation. It was like fifty
degrees inside the house all winter long.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
M M, all right, tell me about this sociopath psychopath? Right? Oh? Different, yeah, different.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All right here it is psychopaths are more attractive, study warns.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, I think that's probably true.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I think it's probably true as well. Right. This was
sent in by Valerie. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Valerie, Thanks Valerie.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh this was published in Newsweek.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, kind of real.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It was written by at least oh no, sorry, Alice Gibbs.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Ooh, best in the biz. She's good.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Alice Gibbs has given me best in the biz vibes.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
All right, right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Dark personalities may not just be uncaring, self obsessed, and
skilled at manipulation, but they may also look trustworthy, according
to a new study that sheds light on how physical
appearance can so disarm our instincts correct new study published
in the Journal of Personality and Individual Differences examined how
many perceive how people perceive strangers trustworthiness based on facial
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appearance alone. Researchers found that individuals with high levels of
the so called dark triad traits narcissisms, psychopathy, psychopathy, and
machiavelianism were consistently rated as more trustworthy. Is this the
dark triad of traits? Is this like an a virtual
psychological term? It is?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh yeah, that's big. Oh okay, the murderinos are just
galloping in place right now? Got it? The dark Triad's
a big deal? Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Why the answer lies and looks? People with high dark
Triad traits tended to be perceived as more physically attractive,
and this perception strongly influenced how trustworthy people believe them
to be. In four experiments involving nearly six participants not
a huge not a huge sample study, but pretty good,
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individuals were asked to judge strangers' faces in rating tasks
and simulated trust games. Time and again, those with high
dark Triad scores were seen as more trustworthy from their
image alone. Psychopathy, characterized by lack of empathy and impulsivity,
might seem it would be it would repel trust, but
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in practice, individuals with this trait can be highly charming
and socially strategic.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Similarly, narcissists often exhibit confidence, charm, and polished self presentation,
while machiavelians excel at reading social cues and manipulating perceptions.
The study found that these traits may influence their facial
expressions and appearance in subtle ways that boost their appeal,
especially in brief or superficial encounters. Oh that's it, I
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believe tang yeah totally. In short term cooperative settings, individuals
with high Dark triad traits tend to inspire more trust,
partly due to being seen as more attractive based on
their facial features. So the papers lead psychologist professor Kiwu
of the Hunan Normal University oh the Hunan Normal.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Universities that one's very average.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
China in a statement, notably, their faces still prompt greater
trust even when other traits like dominance, extraversion, and attractiveness
are accounted for, suggesting facial features have a unique influence
on how trustworthy people are perceived. Psychology professor Jason Walker
of Chicago's Adler University, who studies the dark triad, told
Newsweeks we're hardwired to associate attractiveness with a trust, a
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psychological shortcut known as the halo effect. This becomes quite
dangerous when it collides with the dark triad personalities who
often know and use it to their advantage. These individuals
will present as polished, confidence and even charming. They have
mastered the art of performance. They know how to look
like the ideal high performance teammate of a visioning leader.
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But they're actually con solidating power and manipulate, manipulating people's perception.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I can sniff them out right away. Can you really
be full? Oh my gosh, I mean I think you
know a couple of people that I was like the
only person that didn't like a certain person, and all
of a sudden, the shoe drops and I'm like, how
didn't you see? Because I listen to what people say,
I actually listen to what they're saying. I watch how
they're saying it, and it's yeah, I think I have
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a very good sniffer when it comes to this. Oh yeah,
I feel like people should hire me to come watch
second dates. Also, it's tough. It's tough in this town
because to make it as a movie star, a movie star, yeah,
I'm an actor, not a comedic actor. A movie star,
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you have to put yourself first all the time. Time
you it's Mackabilian. It's more of that than where you go.
It's it's self interest and it's rising to the top.
No matter what I say. These people are killing people,
but they will cut you off use you do whatever,
play with the certain people, kiss certain people's butt, like whatever.
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It is the true risers. It doesn't just happen. And
the thing is, even when you know it, they're so
charming and usually good looking and cunning, you fall for
it over even I fall for it. Sometimes I'm like, damn,
I thought that person was my friend and they are not. Yeah,
until I saw another movie and then they're my friend again.
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You feel it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It is really crazy, and it is really prevalent here.
It's really really prevalent.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Go to Erawan, walk around.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh my god, there's some dark bro Airwind is just
like a collection of dark triads is.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's where dark triads love to buy thirty dollars spaghetti
and twenty six dollars smoothies. If you're a dark triad,
come to La and try airwon allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
So, yeah, I will see if there's anything else here.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They're just saying, like you know, there's a lot of
serial killers who were described as attractive or charismatic, and
then it goes to a Netflix show for some reason.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, yeah, the Dark Triad is it's a great name.
First of all, it's incredible. Oh here it is for
whoever named it.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh this is great. I like this last. This is
a great This is why Gibbs is the best in
the viz. When it comes to protecting yourself from being
taken in by Dark Triad personalities, Walker said, watch how
they treat those with less power. True character is revealed
in how someone engages with people they don't need to impress.
Attractiveness may open the door, but sustained trust should be
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earned through consistency, humility, and intech, not charisma or a
curated image. Boom baby, that's totally true. And that's why
people say, just when you're on a date, how does
the person treat the server?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, that's always the big one, the ballet, the server,
the bartender. Yeah right, that's that's true. I gotta say.
I there's that doc the val or whatever about the
cult nexium as the leader who loved playing volleyball with
a head, sweat band on and Keith Ranieri. I believe
his name was classic, I mean everything you said, yeah,
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And Jack robashot our buddy, the stand up comedian. He
was like, are you watching this? I go, yeah, I'm
watching it right now. And he's like, if that guy
walked up to me holding a volleyball wearing that sweat band,
I would have punched him in the face before he
started talking. And I felt like fireworks of joy inside
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of me. I'm like me too, Like, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That's really funny.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
What's the opposite though? We always talk about those what's yeah,
what are the light try every emotion? Yeah? What is
the light tryad? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Probably empathy? I mean like, but also what's interesting is that,
like it seems like that, like narcissism and narcissm is
like a definitive traits psych psychopathy is a definitive trait.
Is Machiavelianism, like an actual d S d s M
kind of designation.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Really, it's being unscrupulous and self interested. It's rising to
the top no matter what. And so I think that's
I think it's more of the ambitious site things. But
I don't know. Again, the murder banandas know this like
the back of their hand, I really do. But yeah,
who is the Light Triad? Who?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, empathy is there?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Giggle cry, Oh yeah, feel everything. There are paths, I guess.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
M paths, right, there's an EmPATH.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
They're selfless, They're always giving their time and energy to others. Yep,
we got to get these two together. We got to
do a reality show that's just light and like Light
Triad versus Dark Triad on one island. Nobody knows who
anybody is, and there's one fun hammock in the middle
that everybody can share if they want.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah. I mean I feel like the Dark Triads are
gonna win it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
They're gonna murder the mine. Yeah, it's over.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It's over murder because the Dark Triad are just gonna
make everyone believe they're the Light try to make everyone
believe that the Light Triads the Dark Triad, and then
they're gonna kill them.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yes. Uh, I got to make sure this is the
right name for this. So you just reminded me of
a Yeah, this was it? Okay, Oh my god. So
I had like back in New York early days, there
was somebody I ad met in real life a couple
times and just really nice women, but we never dated
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sometimes she would take me, like to it as a date.
Things like we always had that sort of like would
they won't they? That Ross and Rachel and we never
ended up hooking up ever. We just it was one
of those things where I just don't know why we
didn't date or sleep together or whatever. But I really
like her to this day. I wish her well. But
at one point she was like, dude, I'm going to
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I think it was Fire Island. It was one of
the islands off of New York.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I've never been a Fire Island. Looking forward to some time.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Going, I saw I was on the Nude beach, and
I saw something that was unforgettable.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
On that note, pitch a big old hog, big old
hog swinging in the sand bar.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I saw a hog that would win every state fair
from here to Omaha. I mean this was and the
man was five eight and lean muscle, and this thing
was hanging like the liberty pill. It was all craable,
as the French would say. And I was there with
four hipsters that all worked for Matador Records, and they
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just went quiet, and we were all straight guys looking
at a ding dong. Just the guy was walking in
the surf it was.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
He's walking in the surf and there's no shrinkage whatsoever,
even in the water.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
If it was shrinking, then full length. This guy would
eat a wheelbarrow. It was unbelievable. And I was like, honestly,
there's somebody that likes that. But I don't think he
was winning any immediate dates. I think it was more
just so impressive. Anyway. So I had this woman who
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I won't name because I don't know what became of her,
and if she's married to somebody listens bananas, it's none
of my damn business. But so she goes, I'm going
out to this island for like a week, two weeks
maybe it was Block Island, and I'm shooting reality show.
And the whole idea of was young, cool, single New
Yorkers just partying it up for a summer. And of
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course they shoot it in like two weeks. And so
she's like, Scotty, do you want to go to the premiere?
They're going to show the first two episodes. It was
on ABC, and I go. I said, of course, I
like a free me on an open bar. You got
me in. I'm poor, And I went in and I
sat down next to her and she kind of like
nervously held my hand or sitting at the bar, and
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then it comes on ABC. This was like before streaming
all that shit. So it just they turned the volume
up at this nightclub in Manhattan and they made it
look like she blew this dude and she did not,
and they edited it and they added sound effects and
they and I was like, and she was MORETI, oh
my god. This was before I was in TV. You know,
I hadn't worked in reality TV or TV at all
(23:35):
at this point, so I still kind of thought reality
TV was like they just document what's happening, and they
edited and she was like, I promise you I didn't
even kiss that guy, like he yeah. She was so upset.
She was like and it was this huge, like eye
(23:57):
opening experience that the show got canceled after like three
episod so it's like they shot the whole season, but
they didn't air them all because nobody cared. It was
a horrible show. But they were like they just were
like welcome singles and then just pumped them full of booze.
She just remembers the producers being like, guys make drinks.
Guys make drinks, and then this one. Dude's like, can
I talk to you outside for a second, and then
they just cut the footage of a bush and then
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literally put in closed caption sucking sound.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I mean I feel like if she had a good lawyer,
I know she must have. She must have signed.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh no, I mean like you signed, so you signed
so much to And it's also people who are like
in their early twenties who don't know and probably don't
read the there's just psyched to be able, like I'm
gonna be on TV. This is very exciting. I'll sign
whatever you Yeah, she just thought she's a star.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
She's stylish, she's young, she's a manhattanite. She wasn't from
New York. She was just there. But I remember that
feeling of being like and so I think we stayed for,
you know, the end of the episode politely, and then
she and I just kind of left and went to
another bar and she was like that's She's like, I
never even talked to that guy, Like I was just
like on camera and then they were just trying to
force drama. So the more all the stories don't believe
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everything you see on TV. It's probably thick.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's and also just remember that all of that stuff
is scripted. We have like my job, like literally Scotty
would script reality shows. He would write lines, he would
write full plots.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, sure, absolutely true. I absolutely true, many times, many pilots.
And there were times where the producer would be like, Okay,
now we're in a zoomba class. We need big energy ladies. Everybody,
let's do zoomba and Aunt Susan, do you think you
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can just pretend to be lightheaded? And then everybody rush
over to her. Okay, action, big energy, and then they'd
be doing zooma and this woman would do the worst
acting I've ever seen, and then the camera would sweep
and the women would run over and the zoom instructor
would like hold their faces like Macaulay Coughlin and home alone,
and that would make the cut. And it's all manufactured.
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It's it's a shame, but it's true. We're all being
manipulated by the media.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, it's all I mean, like, yeah, it's it's like
it's just bad acting, a bad actor. It's just bad acting.
It's all bad acting and terrible and terrible dialogue. Go
and watch something written Scottie gimme one baby.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Gus G sent this in. Gus from Colorado, our guy.
He sends lots of great stuff and we've met him
a couple of times, including a banana's veest when I
was so zonked out of my mind. I was like
hey and he was like Gus. I was like, oh, goss, Hey,
hey dude, what's up. I'm dying of altitude sickness. Woman
speaking of dying of altitude sickness. Woman wedged upside down
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between boulders for seven hours while trying to retrieve her phone.
My god, my God, I love, I love, I know.
Here let me click this link because I forgot to
write down the person it was in The Guardian. Kurt,
that's a real one and it was written by Josh Taylor.
(27:19):
Eliah's Visantae double writers.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
One typees the asdfg's and the other types the hjk ls.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
M oh yeah, here we go. A woman was wedged
between boulders for seven hours after she slipped head first
into a three meter crevice while trying to retrieve her
phone in New South Wales. Matilda Campbell's friends initially spent
(27:50):
an hour attempting to free her while she was hanging
upside down before they called Triple zero for help. New
South Wales ambulances arrived. The operation to free her from
the unlikely predicament in the Hunter Valley on Saturday twelve
October involved a team of multidisciplinary emergency workers. Well that
(28:11):
sounds good that you know what, that's what you want
in this situation. Multidisciplinary emergency workers.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I'm an EMT firefighter, I'm a cop COASCAR guy.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I'm a pair of trooper nurse. They removed several heavy
boulders to create a save access point. Then, with both
feet now accessible, the workers navigated Campbell h in early twenties,
which is not a shock, feet first up through the
tight s bend. There are photos of this and she
(28:44):
is certainly pinned upside down. Well, it took over an
hour to kind of pull her out of there. She
was there for seven hours. But once they moved all
these boulders, they also did the specialist used a winch
which was used to move a five hundred kilogram boulder,
and then a hardwood frame was constructed to insure stability
(29:05):
during the rescue. So these multidisciplinary emergency responders, this is
their greatest moment she's gonna live. They know they're gonna
save her like this is. She's not bleeding out, she's
just upside down and feeling dumb.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I'm trying to see where. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, it's she is feet to sky.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god. My
chest just dropped because the photo you see is just
rocks on either side and then feet bear tutsis.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's why I'm doing it. It is a wild one.
This is the wild West Wales, which I guess should
be the wild South. In my ten years as a
rescue paramedic, I've never encountered a job quite like this.
At Peter Watts, a specialist rescue paramedic, there you go,
he said it was challenging but incredibly rewarding. I bet
it was. They got her out. Every agency played a
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role and we all worked incredibly well together to achieve
a good outcome for the patient. Campbell was freed with
only minor scratches and bruises, which is a miracle.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It is so so crazy because.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
If she was by herself, she's toasted.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh she's toast. And also what I don't understand, so
they lifted a rock out of place, right.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
A couple huge boulders. Yeah, they lifted a five hundred
kilogram boulder out of the web.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah that's okay, over a half ton. My goodness, great,
that is so cuckoo.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, so what is that? Five hundred kilograms two point
two pounds times two point two.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's over half a ton, I believe.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, eleven hundred pound boulder. That's no small rock.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
How much is a ton?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Two thousand? There we go, So you're right, it's over
half h Campbell was freed with only minor scratches and bruises.
And here's the kicker, Curdiebee. Her phone could not be retrieved.
So even these emergency personnel couldn't get to this phone.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
What I don't understand when I'm looking at the photos
is she is very deep at what boy? Was she
like I think I can get my phone? Do you
know what I mean? Like that? Or was the phone
like balanced on like a ledge and then as she
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fell she knocks it deeper into the crevice. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Well, I only can hope the camera was rolling for
the whole thing. One day they'll get it out. There
are magnet fishing rods. We'll just lower magnet down there.
There's you know, they're rats, you can they're trained rats
that dig people out of emergency.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
We'll get our magnet fishing rod and wipe the phone
as we pull it up.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That's right, Campbell posted on social media. It's safe to
say I'm the most accident prone person ever and I'm okay.
I just have some injuries. I'm recovering from. No more
rock exploration for me in a while, she says. Good attitude, Campbell.
She said, I wanted to give the biggest shout out
to my friends or thumbs up, it doesn't matter what
you call it, and the team who works so hard
to get me out. I'm forever thankful, as most likely
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I would otherwise not be here today. So we like her.
That's the right response.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That is the right response. Congratulations Matilda Campbell. Matilda, You're alive.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
What a treat. Go go to the Apple store, get
yourself on your iPhone or whatever. You were risked it
all for man man, like you said it is. She
is all the way in there.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
When is the last time you were rescued?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Oh, I guess that kidney stone in Mexico, because other
than that, I've never been Yeah. I've never been rescued before,
I've never been that injured before, and I've certainly never
been stuck anywhere. Yeah. So, yeah, just a kidney stone.
When they sent a house doctor from the hotel to
(32:54):
give me a shot of painkiller, didn't work, and then
the empts came and gave me one. It didn't work,
And I got to the nice house Spittle in Cabo
San Lucas and they gave me so much painkiller that
they were like, I didn't feel anything anymore. And then
that doctor was like, it's you have one kidney zone.
That was the thing. You know, Usually people they get
(33:15):
him get lots of them, oh yeah, or they have oxalates,
and so mine I think was just dehydration over years
and years and years, and but yeah, it was that.
That ambulance ride changed the way I understand pain.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Wow. Wow wow wow that And they do say it's
one of the worst pains in the world.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Dude, it is. Uh, it's unthinkable, and I don't wish
it even all my enemies. It's uh. It's the nurse
when she was about to take out a catheter. I
had a catheter also, so I know what a joy
that is. Uh, never wanted a one inch penis more
in my life, to be honest, because get it done.
That guy on the beach at Fire Island, if he
(33:55):
gets a catheter, he's a trouble vienna. That that one.
Oh my god, they're gonna need a whole team of
fireman to back up. Uh it was, she goes, You know,
I've had two babies and one kidney stone, and I'd
rather have another child.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Wow, that's what the nurse said, and then did the
dirty deep and but so yeah, how about you. Have
you ever been rescued? Oh what you did? You did
get rescued one city? Where? What? Uh? What are you
thinking of when you broke your wrist or hurt your wrist?
I guess you didn't have to get pulled out of there.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
And I just wrapped my own hand. Umm, I mean,
like the I remember very specifically, I've been in two
car accidents as bummers, and both as a kid, once
when I was ten eleven, ten eleven and once when
I was twelve, so very close to each other, weirdly. Yeah,
(34:52):
but the first one I remember, I wasn't wearing a
seat bot. I was in the front seat, and uh,
I just gotten my first tape, my first tape as
a ten year old, and I got the Beastie Boys
licensed to ill and uh, I had never put a
tape into a tape deck and so I was trying
(35:12):
to do it in the car and then my mom
said give it to me, and then went looked down
to put it in, and then the person in front
of her slam nutter brakes boom, full speed, thirty five
miles an hour. So I hit the dashboard and then
bounced off the dashboard and shattered the windshield with my head.
But I wasn't hurt. I wasn't hurt at all. It
was just like but I was covered. It was before
(35:35):
it was like a nineteen seventy nine Honda Civic, and
it was before they had the the totally shatter resistant glass.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, that weird pebble glass.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, so I had, like I had, they had to
vacuum glass shards off of like my eyelids and my
eye and my eyelashes. And that's what I that is
like my main memory of it, just like sitting there
and then them coming in with like a very tiny
little tube and like suctioning glass shards off of my eyelids.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, that's pretty intense. One of the great things of evolution,
or if you believe in job that is that you
don't remember pain. You can't actually remember how bad it was.
And I think about that all the time because if
you could actually like recall the full pain, oh yeah,
nobody would. It would be unbearable. Life would be unbearable.
It's a miracle that you can't. You can remember sensations, looks, feelings, lights, voices,
(36:32):
all that stuff, but I'm glad. I'm glad you can't.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
This is something I was thinking about today listening to
the new Beach Bunny album and they're a band, and
there's a song on the album that is called what
is it called.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We Got to Get Lily on Again? She'll do it?
She's the best.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, it's called uh clueless, and it's about getting older.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And I was thinking about would would,
because sometimes you have these feelings about, oh, that previous
time in my life. Oh I look back on that,
(37:13):
and oh I wish I was there, do you know
what I mean? Like, Oh, that was what a cool time,
you know, And I just don't think I do that.
I don't think I have a moment where I was like, oh,
I wish I have like specific weekends where I was like,
if I could go re re experience that weekend, that
would be amazing. You know.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
But it's interesting to me because you seem like kind
of with your friends and stuff, you seem pretty nostalgic.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, but like for very specific units of time, but
not like but not like oh my my twenty fourth
year or my twenty ninth year. Sure, you know, like
that was ah man, Yeah, like, oh I when I
was just starting comedy, because that's what I hear from
people a lot of just being like, oh I wish
(38:03):
I was back when I was just starting and I
was just all this stuff was new to me and
stuff and it's like no, you do, no, you don't.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I agree, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It was like so frustrating all the time. It's just
it was constantly frustrating and you had a day job
and it sucked. It's so much.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I you know, I waited so many tables in so
many places for so many years, and it was a
lifeline and I made great lifelong friends and it's amazing
and I still love a lot of those people a lot.
And Sumo and Somo hugg and still listens to the podcast,
and we waited tables together in Brooklyn and uh but
shout out Sumo. But everyone's a while, I'll be in
(38:43):
a really great restaurant. I'm watching the staff and the bartenders.
They're having fun, they're all making money. The meal's great,
food's good, everybody's cool, and I'm like, man, i'd be
fun to wait tables again. And then I know that
it's true. I would like it for one night a week,
one week a month where if I could just go
into a good restaurant, I want some able section and
just be charming and I was a good server, it
(39:04):
would be great. But I think the only chance I
ever have for that is I ever open a bar
and then I bartend on whatever the slow night is,
so no server or no bartender has like I'll just
go in and do my best on Monday nights with yeah,
with that crowd. But that's the only chance I got
because I'm I can't trying to never go back.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I do see that in your future, because that is
what you've said you wanted to do since you were
like twenty four years old, is you want to own
a bar and be a bartender, and I cannot wait
for you to realize that. I cannot wait for you
to finally sell the script that makes it all possible.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
You have me too, and great feeling.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
And then just be like, that's it. I'm going to Toos,
New Mexico and opening a bar.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Perfect location too. Yeah for tailwinds. Yeah, all up in
tailwinds and tows. It's great ding for a bar. My
first bar is gonna be called Tailwinds.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I love tailwinds.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
It's I mean, it's almost like wind Jammer that's just
right up there.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Tailwinds will be an airplane theme bar. Then we got
quitting time, which your your your bill comes on a
pink slip, so when you get out of there, I
fire you. So you get out of there, go home.
I'm going to quitting time, and then I have to
do one that's called like Ravens Roost or something since
I'm from Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah maybe, yeah, I'll tease us into some thumbs up here.
Woman files for divorce after chat GPT reads husband's affair
and coffee cup.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Holy smokes, that's a crazy there's.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
A lot going on in it.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, well good, here we go. Thumbs ups. Let's get
into some positivity for our beautiful bananas. Ali Burrows wants
a thumb her husband Corey way up for being an
actual saintan sticking with Ali through six rounds of chemotherapy
and taking care of literally everything for us. He says,
I couldn't have done it without you, Corey. Well, I
(40:54):
just got missed the thumbs up, Corey. You got me
choked up there. Ali thumbs up to you. We hope
you're doing great. Josh Humphries wants to thumb his girlfriend,
Brittany way up. She's a long time been animal, a
dry sixty nine master nice and she got tickets to
see Curdie b this summer. Yes, most importantly, well, I
think that's most important, but we'll get into this. Most importantly,
(41:17):
Brittany finished an eighteen point six mile Norwegian foot march
while carrying a twenty seven pound rucksack.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
WHOA, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You're a big hiker, carc eighteen point six miles. That's
a lot with a thirty pound rucksack.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Even though her blisters became so bad they were bleeding
through her boots, she still finished the foot march and
deserves to be proud.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I love that it is being called a foot march
and not a hike.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I don't know what a Norwegian foot march is, but
it sounds badass. Thumbs up to you.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Good for you. Yeah, we like all the outward bound
ones by the way pan animals feel.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Send your thumbs up for people you care about yourself
to the Bananas Podcast at GMA dot com or the
Bananas Podcast on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
So if anybody, yeah, go go ahead. I'll do this
one more.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I got one more. Katie B from New Jersey Katib
KATIEB and Curdie B, best friends from New Jersey, is
thumbing herself all the way up. Katie ran her fourth
marathon in April.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Kirk congrats.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
She set a personal best. She beat her previous time
by sixteen minute. Nice work. Think about that. That's like
if you're running an eight minute mile. She basically was
like two miles ahead of her normal.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That's amazing crazy.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
She said she was listening to bananas while she ran.
Kay and Kate also wants to thumb up her aunt
unclean cousin John Piper and Grace, who also completed their
first marathons that day.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Thumb thumb up. Nice four of you. Good congratulations. If
you live in New York City and you work at
a bar, or you work at a restaurant, and you
want Kurdie B to come home by that a drinke.
I want to know about all the cool places I've
been away for twelve years. Please DM me at Kurk
(43:11):
Brown and just let me know where I should go.
You don't even have to work there, just say this
is where you should go. I'm already on the on
the list is already the bar in Bushwick where they
race turtles.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Oh well, that sounds very Brooklyn. I'm ready worth going to.
Everybody's talking about that honey butter pancake at the Golden Diner, Curt.
That's the that's the viral thing, Okay, I can't stop seeing.
So you go get that honey butter pint. And then
I want to go and get those hot steaming dumps
from sho jaofoos who or fooz Oh. That place is
(43:50):
like it's one of those places where for like five
dollars you get like ten dumplings, holy steamy dumps.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Is it in Brooklyn or is it in Chinatown?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
In China Town.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
All right, sweet baby, here it is?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Is it you or me? Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
A woman files for divorce after chat gpt read's husband
affair and coffee cup. This is God is a wild one.
This is a wild one. This was sent in by
also Valerie.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Oh doublella, you're too get chat gpt an affair alleged lady.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
This was in vice written by Ashley Flake.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Oh sorry, Ashley, You'll be somewhere better one day.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Ashley, You're the best in the biz. A Greek woman
ended her twelve year marriage because chat gpt told her
to not directly, of course, but close enough. After making
Greek coffee for herself and her husband, she took photos
of the grounds left in the cups and asked chat
gpt to interpret them. Following a rising trend of AI
assisted tessiography. The chatbot reportedly saw signs of infidelity, specifically
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that her husband was fantasizing about a woman whose name
started with an e, and that this woman was trying
to destroy their family.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
So naturally she filed for divorce without telling him. She's
often into trendy things. The husband said on the Greek
morning show to pro and o. One day, she made
his Greek coffee and thought would be fun to take
pictures of the cups and have chat GPT read them.
He didn't take it seriously. I loft it, laughed it
off as nonsense, but she didn't. She told me to leave,
informed our kids about the divorce, and the next thing
(45:26):
I knew I was getting a call from her lawyer.
When he refused to agree to a mutual separation, she
served him formal papers three days later. His lawyer is
now fighting the case, arguing that an AI generated interpretation
of coffee residue has no legal standing. Quote he is
innocent until proven otherwise, the attorney told Greek City Times.
(45:47):
According to the husband, this wasn't her first brush with
alternative belief systems. She had previously followed in astrologer's predictions
for nearly a year. The divorce has set off a
wave of commentary on Greek social media and pulled in
a pinions from actual testiography practitioners, who are quick to
point out that photographing leftover sludge isn't exactly how it works.
(46:08):
Traditional readings also consider foam patterns, the swirl and the saucer.
This wasn't divination, just the algorithms doing their thing. And
yet here we are a marriage collapse, not under the
way to betrayal their lives, but under the interpretive powers
of a chatbot trained to autocomplete text.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah that's fine, Ai, I don't want to be married
to that person. If somebody divorces you for this, great,
oh what a what a blessing?
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, yeah right, it is they that woman did not
want to be married. No, that's all this.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
You're lucky devil. If anything, you saved yourself. Just so
many conversations. Yes, just beat your feet down the street.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I can understand if I don't have no idea how
divorce law works in me, neither in Greece. But definitely
they were saying like, he's innocent until proven guilty, and
I was like, he's not being accused of a crime.
But maybe in their system if you're being like, if
she's saying he was in you know, having an affair,
then then she would get everything at all.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I have no also not a crime, of course.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, yeah, maybe in Greek Greece it is Greek people.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Maybe let us know, yeah, grease Greek ban animals. Let
us know, is having a marital fair or crime there
because if it is, yes, I also.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Like, look, I'm not going to shoot on I'm not
going to shoot on people look at coffee grounds and
pretend to tell you the future from it. But it
is very funny that once we involve AI, people are like,
uh uh uh no, no no. But if it was
just a human being looking at coffee grounds, that that's real.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Also, isn't it. Like I guess I kind of understand
the tea leaves or I kind of understand like somebody
that drinks something really fast, maybe it would drive a
certain way, or somebody that takes their time, maybe they
settle it. Like I can understand you can study sort
of basic behavior by what's left over. I could kind
of see it the old that predict the future.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
The only thing that the only thing that the only
way it possibly makes sense to me is in a
very broad way. And when and I do subscribe to
this in that we are all connected, you know what
I mean, like that that you and I are one,
that we are we are the same as all of
the particles in the universe, and so therefore the grounds
(48:32):
and the coffee are in some way us, you know,
like hell yeah. But other than that, you gotta buy
you gotta have a deep buy in to that.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
That.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Also, the coffee grounds are concerned with your affairs.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yes, if somebody says I'm getting divorced, I want a
divorce and they have an explanation like a I read
your coffee guards, you run away.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
You are right. I'm walking out the door right now,
and I will send my friends for my stuff. You
have won the lottery of divorces.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
You really have, You really have. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
You were married to a person who is.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Not all there, and they'll probably have a robot partner
soon enough that satisfy all their specific quirks, and you
will be on a jet ski in Saint Martin with
a new person who will have a better outlook on life.
Good for you, good for you.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Well that bananas, folks, That.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Is the Nana's kurdiebee. We did it again.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
We sure did pal They said we couldn't. They've been challenging,
they have been challenging us.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
We do not back down from a fight unless we're
going to lose or the people are bigger than us.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Oh we only hear my hot take before we got.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I live for hot takes. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Literally, you should not be able, yes, already on board.
If you are in charge of payroll for independent contractors,
you cannot be a salary. That cannot be a salaried position.
You must also be an independent contractor in order to
(50:25):
issue payment for independent contractors, because the amount of arguing
with people who have a salary about checks that are
owed to me.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Is exhaust movies all the time.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
It takes up so much of my daily time because
I get checks from all these different places and I
have to have arguments with someone who is guaranteed a
check at the end of the week, no matter what
they do. To have to fight for a check, it
makes me furious.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I have it with a movie right now where they're like, hey,
we're going to pay you when the movie starts shooting,
and I'm like really, because I wrote the script a
year ago, and they're like, well, you get triggered. The
payment gets triggered when we start production, and we're gonna
start production, don't worry. I'm like any estimates. They're like nope.
So I'm just sitting here with a full salary. Something
(51:17):
that would help me out. So much and they do
not care what a life anyways. I like it. I
also think representatives and the House for Representatives should make
whatever the median in their district makes. Love it. Oh,
I'm down change everything.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
I would change everything. Also, I saw this crazy thing, dude,
I saw this crazy thing that like it was something
like median household income in the United States or individual
income the United States? Is it said seventy five thousand.
But then if you subtract the top ten richest individuals,
(51:57):
just ten richest individuals from that, it drops down to
sixty thousand. Then you subtract the top one hundred richest individuals,
it drops down to fifty five thousand. Then you subtract
the top thousand richest individuals, it drops down to forty
five thousand median income.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, in reality, man.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, it's a I understand. I understand. Oh, well, what's
the powerball at this week? That's our best bet of
getting out of it. Powerball is that one forty six million.
The cash value is sixty five point six I could
(52:37):
do a gamble, do it, but it's gonna be somebody bananas. Heyeh,
bananas is an exactly right Media Production.
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Speaker 2 (52:52):
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I poured to Margarita.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
You part yourself from Margarita.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I I I just thought, it's noon, it's Tuesday. It's
you and me Margarita time.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I love that. I am very very happy for you.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I was feeling boring. I had to spice it up
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
And here it's a perfect title. Then psychopaths are more
attractive study wards.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Damn right, that's right, and I feel nothing about that.
So let's dive deep murder Bananas on a very cool
episode of Bananas.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
World, would you for your mindillion pieces, Johnny, Bananas.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Guys, gals, non binary pals, Welcome to Burnerer. I'm Kurt
Brown Oler.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'm Banana Boy number two. Scottielanis. Thank you for listening
to the silliest little podcast over was. It's called Bananas.
It's strange news. It's storytelling. Sometimes we have guests, sometimes
we don't, but mostly it's just Kurtie B and I laughing, goofing, spoofing,
having a nice time. Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
We're so happy to have you. It's a delightful time
to be alive. Yes, And even if it isn't right now,
it is because you're listening to bananas.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
All right. You got the bananas blinders on. They go
on your ears, they go on your eyes, and for
fifty minutes or so, put those banana blinders on. Cannonball
into this bliss pit of positivity.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I'm continuing my long run of trying to pick up
surfboard travel bags from around Los Angeles.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
How's it going Yesterday?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yesterday it was just like, oh, I have a two
and a half hour ride in the car there and
back to just pick up this this coffin bag, and
you know what, right at the top, I was like,
I'm just gonna listen to some podcasts I like, and
I'm gonna have a very nice time because it is
like having to drive somewhere at this point of my
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life is kind of the only time where it's like
I can't do anything else. I'm driving. This is all
I you know, and so it's like it's time to myself.
I enjoy it. I look forward to it. And then
by the end of it, I was ready to murder
everyone on the road because the traffic was so insane
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in Los Angeles. But also, I was struck by its beauty.
It is a beautiful city. When you leave somewhere, you
all of a sudden, all the things, there's nothing, not
a single moment is taken for granted. And so I
encouraged people to just imagine, imagine that you're about to move,
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because then you will appreciate where you live suddenly so
much more.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
That's a great point. And a friend of the podcast
once asked me. She said she was leaving New York
after living there for like ten years, and she's like, Hey,
what are some good ideas for me to leave? And
I said, go to your favorite places, only don't worry
about going to the places you never went to, like oh,
I never got a chance to go to a Madison
Square garden. Like go to your favorite cafe, your favorite bar,
(03:35):
your favorite place to sit and read. Go to your
favorite spots and just appreciate them and then leave.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, I remember there was there was a place in
New York City that I remember I did that with
you before I left, which was at the bottom I
believe it's at the bottom of Saint Mark's right at
Thompson Square Park.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
I remember exactly where that is.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
There's a cafe on the corner, on the left hand
side corner if you're facing the park. And it was
probably the first cafe I ever walked into in New
York City, and I still to the moment I left
the city, it stayed exactly the same, which is incredibly
difficult for any place in New York City to stay
exactly the same because city banks are just drooling, They're
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just Dwayne reads are drooling to get in there. And
I went back and I sat and had a coffee
and I read a book just like I did when
I was twenty one years old, and it was delightful.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Oh man, Well, definitely text me on your cross country
drive when you reach because this always happens to me.
I've done cross country, I believe, I believe fourteen times.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
And there comes a point, especially when you're driving alone,
where you uh no longer want to listen to music
or podcasts or Audible or any other books. All you
want to do is just think and text it to me.
It usually happens somewhere between Utah and Colorado. For Colorado,
and text me when you hit that point, because I
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think that's like a really interesting time when you're like now,
it's thinking time, and for you it'll be shower thoughts.
It'll be pure blue skying, creative. You'll probably come up
with great.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh, I'm definitely well. I'll be taking a whole ton
of notes.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Notes.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
But also here's the things, here's the things that I
did not do living on the West Coast in twelve
years that I wish I had. I would like to
just speak the mounts. I never went to Catalina.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Crazy, you would lave it. I would love voted.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I know, it's just exactly. I never went to Yosemite.
Can you believe that.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
That, even before you had kids, when it was just
you and Lauren, That is preposterous because when you live
in Los Angeles, it is the greatest couple's weekend you
can do because it is gorgeous. But I will say
it's been on firelight, yeah, three times since we've lived here.
So also, there's always serial killers up there. So hey,
maybe you guys dodged a proverbial bullet.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah. Those are the two that I think they will
weigh on me after moving back east, because it's like,
I'm never gonna go to Catalina. Do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
You'll go to Yosemite.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I'll probably go to Yosemite, but it'll be much more difficult.
What what do you fly into to if you fly
from the East coast to go.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
To Yo San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You fly to San Francisco. My god, and then it's
a four hours during Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
It's close. I think you'll be back with the kids
on a great American RV trip one day. To me.
You know, if if John had wanted me to have
a whole litter of children, I would have packed them
into an RV and just driven Corner to corner, Nova
Scotia to Vancouver all the way down to Baja.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I have to figure out the West. I have to
figure out a way to win and over back into
RV's because I rented an RV early. It was a
shitty RV. It was. It was a poorly planned trip.
It was all my fault. This was also the trip
everyone where I told everyone that I was bringing mushrooms
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and we're going to Joshua Joshua Tree obviously, and I
told everyone bringing mushrooms and everybody's gonna have a great time.
Everybody's looking forward to that. And then my cousin was
coming and my cousin was sober, and then I just
got nervous about it. And then I just was like,
I'm not bringing them. But I didn't tell anyone that
I wasn't bringing the drugs. Fascinating, and so everyone gets
(07:40):
there and I'm just like, oh, no, yeah, I no,
I didn't bring them. They're like, what the fuck are
you talking about. I'm in Joshua Tree and you said
you were bringing drugs and you did not bring drugs.
I was like, you know what. On reflection, yes, so
that is a problem. I apologize.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, that was also the night that I mean rat party.
By the way, I loved it because I drove a
station wagon at the time that folded flat. So I
camped inside.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
My stake and dropped to thirty maybe dropped.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
To thirty and the winds picked up, and I looked
out the wind at one point and the tents of
all the friends that were camping in tents were blown flat, like.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
They against their bodies, against the people's bodies.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yes, And so they all got in your RV with
you in the morning. Yeah, there were like eight people
in that RV for two.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
And then also, this is the worst part is that
not only was it a shitty RV, but also I
don't know what it was. But the in the middle
of the night, everybody was super drunk. I was super
drunk where I was because we had to because we
were just in the wind for like it was just
(08:47):
thirty mile an hour wind and like thirty degrees. All
night long, no one had fun. And then we got
into the RV and this carbon monoxide alarm started going
off at like midnight and it would only stop if
I punched it. Oh my god, But I didn't know
what it was because we were just so drunk. We'd
already passed out. And so for I don't know, every
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twenty five minutes I would an alarm would go off,
I would punch it, it would stop, and then next
twenty five minutes it would go off. I would have
to punch it in stop. So no one slept. In
addition to all of that, great birthday, great birthday, that
was my first birthday in Los Angeles. I look forward
to making similar terrible mistakes once back. But once moving
back to it, like when I moved to Los Angeles,
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I didn't understand the West Coast at all. I feel
like I'm moving back to a place that I understand
very deeply.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
You were the funniest in the first place you guys
rented that had that bathtub, shower, Oh, just a huge
window so the neighbors could just see full nudity.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Oh yeah, it was crazy how it was a crazy
It was so the bathroom was in like the middle
of the house. Not only did it have a I
would say six foot buy six foot picture window, and
then a gigantic jacuzzie shower tub that was like you
(10:09):
could fit four people across. Right, I've never seen a
wide like jacuzzi apartment in an apartment. Yeah, and it
was all green tile. And then there was a goddamn
fireplace in the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Incredible gas fireplace.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
A gas fireplace with broken black glass on the bottom
of it.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
That was like a contractor either had the most specific
fetish imaginable. He's like, I like to have sex with
three women at a time in front of an electric
a gas fireplace, electric fireplace while strangers watch, And he's like,
it's the only way it works for me anymore. Down below,
or it was all the stuff that was on sale
(10:49):
at a bargain contractor store, and it was like, I'll
grab that giant tub. I'll grab that piece of shit
fireplace seven x seven window, I'll buy it.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
So it's crazy. It was so called had no insulation.
The whole place had no insulation. It was like fifty
degrees inside the house all winter long.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
M M, all right, tell me about this sociopath psychopath? Right? Oh? Different, yeah, different.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
All right here it is psychopaths are more attractive, study warns.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, I think that's probably true.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I think it's probably true as well. Right. This was
sent in by Valerie. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Valerie, Thanks Valerie.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh this was published in Newsweek.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, kind of real.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It was written by at least oh no, sorry, Alice Gibbs.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Ooh, best in the biz. She's good.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Alice Gibbs has given me best in the biz vibes.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
All right, right.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Dark personalities may not just be uncaring, self obsessed, and
skilled at manipulation, but they may also look trustworthy, according
to a new study that sheds light on how physical
appearance can so disarm our instincts correct new study published
in the Journal of Personality and Individual Differences examined how
many perceive how people perceive strangers trustworthiness based on facial
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appearance alone. Researchers found that individuals with high levels of
the so called dark triad traits narcissisms, psychopathy, psychopathy, and
machiavelianism were consistently rated as more trustworthy. Is this the
dark triad of traits? Is this like an a virtual
psychological term? It is?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh yeah, that's big. Oh okay, the murderinos are just
galloping in place right now? Got it? The dark Triad's
a big deal? Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Why the answer lies and looks? People with high dark
Triad traits tended to be perceived as more physically attractive,
and this perception strongly influenced how trustworthy people believe them
to be. In four experiments involving nearly six participants not
a huge not a huge sample study, but pretty good,
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individuals were asked to judge strangers' faces in rating tasks
and simulated trust games. Time and again, those with high
dark Triad scores were seen as more trustworthy from their
image alone. Psychopathy, characterized by lack of empathy and impulsivity,
might seem it would be it would repel trust, but
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in practice, individuals with this trait can be highly charming
and socially strategic.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Similarly, narcissists often exhibit confidence, charm, and polished self presentation,
while machiavelians excel at reading social cues and manipulating perceptions.
The study found that these traits may influence their facial
expressions and appearance in subtle ways that boost their appeal,
especially in brief or superficial encounters. Oh that's it, I
(13:53):
believe tang yeah totally. In short term cooperative settings, individuals
with high Dark triad traits tend to inspire more trust,
partly due to being seen as more attractive based on
their facial features. So the papers lead psychologist professor Kiwu
of the Hunan Normal University oh the Hunan Normal.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Universities that one's very average.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
China in a statement, notably, their faces still prompt greater
trust even when other traits like dominance, extraversion, and attractiveness
are accounted for, suggesting facial features have a unique influence
on how trustworthy people are perceived. Psychology professor Jason Walker
of Chicago's Adler University, who studies the dark triad, told
Newsweeks we're hardwired to associate attractiveness with a trust, a
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psychological shortcut known as the halo effect. This becomes quite
dangerous when it collides with the dark triad personalities who
often know and use it to their advantage. These individuals
will present as polished, confidence and even charming. They have
mastered the art of performance. They know how to look
like the ideal high performance teammate of a visioning leader.
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But they're actually con solidating power and manipulate, manipulating people's perception.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I can sniff them out right away. Can you really
be full? Oh my gosh, I mean I think you
know a couple of people that I was like the
only person that didn't like a certain person, and all
of a sudden, the shoe drops and I'm like, how
didn't you see? Because I listen to what people say,
I actually listen to what they're saying. I watch how
they're saying it, and it's yeah, I think I have
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a very good sniffer when it comes to this. Oh yeah,
I feel like people should hire me to come watch
second dates. Also, it's tough. It's tough in this town
because to make it as a movie star, a movie star, yeah,
I'm an actor, not a comedic actor. A movie star,
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you have to put yourself first all the time. Time
you it's Mackabilian. It's more of that than where you go.
It's it's self interest and it's rising to the top.
No matter what I say. These people are killing people,
but they will cut you off use you do whatever,
play with the certain people, kiss certain people's butt, like whatever.
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It is the true risers. It doesn't just happen. And
the thing is, even when you know it, they're so
charming and usually good looking and cunning, you fall for
it over even I fall for it. Sometimes I'm like, damn,
I thought that person was my friend and they are not. Yeah,
until I saw another movie and then they're my friend again.
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You feel it. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It is really crazy, and it is really prevalent here.
It's really really prevalent.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Go to Erawan, walk around.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Oh my god, there's some dark bro Airwind is just
like a collection of dark triads is.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
It's where dark triads love to buy thirty dollars spaghetti
and twenty six dollars smoothies. If you're a dark triad,
come to La and try airwon allegedly allegedly.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
So, yeah, I will see if there's anything else here.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They're just saying, like you know, there's a lot of
serial killers who were described as attractive or charismatic, and
then it goes to a Netflix show for some reason.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, yeah, the Dark Triad is it's a great name.
First of all, it's incredible. Oh here it is for
whoever named it.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Oh this is great. I like this last. This is
a great This is why Gibbs is the best in
the viz. When it comes to protecting yourself from being
taken in by Dark Triad personalities, Walker said, watch how
they treat those with less power. True character is revealed
in how someone engages with people they don't need to impress.
Attractiveness may open the door, but sustained trust should be
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earned through consistency, humility, and intech, not charisma or a
curated image. Boom baby, that's totally true. And that's why
people say, just when you're on a date, how does
the person treat the server?
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Yeah, that's always the big one, the ballet, the server,
the bartender. Yeah right, that's that's true. I gotta say.
I there's that doc the val or whatever about the
cult nexium as the leader who loved playing volleyball with
a head, sweat band on and Keith Ranieri. I believe
his name was classic, I mean everything you said, yeah,
(18:37):
And Jack robashot our buddy, the stand up comedian. He
was like, are you watching this? I go, yeah, I'm
watching it right now. And he's like, if that guy
walked up to me holding a volleyball wearing that sweat band,
I would have punched him in the face before he
started talking. And I felt like fireworks of joy inside
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of me. I'm like me too, Like, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
That's really funny.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
What's the opposite though? We always talk about those what's yeah,
what are the light try every emotion? Yeah? What is
the light tryad? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Probably empathy? I mean like, but also what's interesting is that,
like it seems like that, like narcissism and narcissm is
like a definitive traits psych psychopathy is a definitive trait.
Is Machiavelianism, like an actual d S d s M
kind of designation.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Really, it's being unscrupulous and self interested. It's rising to
the top no matter what. And so I think that's
I think it's more of the ambitious site things. But
I don't know. Again, the murder banandas know this like
the back of their hand, I really do. But yeah,
who is the Light Triad? Who?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, empathy is there?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Giggle cry, Oh yeah, feel everything. There are paths, I guess.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
M paths, right, there's an EmPATH.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
They're selfless, They're always giving their time and energy to others. Yep,
we got to get these two together. We got to
do a reality show that's just light and like Light
Triad versus Dark Triad on one island. Nobody knows who
anybody is, and there's one fun hammock in the middle
that everybody can share if they want.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah. I mean I feel like the Dark Triads are
gonna win it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
They're gonna murder the mine. Yeah, it's over.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It's over murder because the Dark Triad are just gonna
make everyone believe they're the Light try to make everyone
believe that the Light Triads the Dark Triad, and then
they're gonna kill them.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Yes. Uh, I got to make sure this is the
right name for this. So you just reminded me of
a Yeah, this was it? Okay, Oh my god. So
I had like back in New York early days, there
was somebody I ad met in real life a couple
times and just really nice women, but we never dated
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sometimes she would take me, like to it as a date.
Things like we always had that sort of like would
they won't they? That Ross and Rachel and we never
ended up hooking up ever. We just it was one
of those things where I just don't know why we
didn't date or sleep together or whatever. But I really
like her to this day. I wish her well. But
at one point she was like, dude, I'm going to
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I think it was Fire Island. It was one of
the islands off of New York.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I've never been a Fire Island. Looking forward to some time.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Going, I saw I was on the Nude beach, and
I saw something that was unforgettable.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
On that note, pitch a big old hog, big old
hog swinging in the sand bar.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I saw a hog that would win every state fair
from here to Omaha. I mean this was and the
man was five eight and lean muscle, and this thing
was hanging like the liberty pill. It was all craable,
as the French would say. And I was there with
four hipsters that all worked for Matador Records, and they
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just went quiet, and we were all straight guys looking
at a ding dong. Just the guy was walking in
the surf it was.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
He's walking in the surf and there's no shrinkage whatsoever,
even in the water.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
If it was shrinking, then full length. This guy would
eat a wheelbarrow. It was unbelievable. And I was like, honestly,
there's somebody that likes that. But I don't think he
was winning any immediate dates. I think it was more
just so impressive. Anyway. So I had this woman who
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I won't name because I don't know what became of her,
and if she's married to somebody listens bananas, it's none
of my damn business. But so she goes, I'm going
out to this island for like a week, two weeks
maybe it was Block Island, and I'm shooting reality show.
And the whole idea of was young, cool, single New
Yorkers just partying it up for a summer. And of
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course they shoot it in like two weeks. And so
she's like, Scotty, do you want to go to the premiere?
They're going to show the first two episodes. It was
on ABC, and I go. I said, of course, I
like a free me on an open bar. You got
me in. I'm poor, And I went in and I
sat down next to her and she kind of like
nervously held my hand or sitting at the bar, and
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then it comes on ABC. This was like before streaming
all that shit. So it just they turned the volume
up at this nightclub in Manhattan and they made it
look like she blew this dude and she did not,
and they edited it and they added sound effects and
they and I was like, and she was MORETI, oh
my god. This was before I was in TV. You know,
I hadn't worked in reality TV or TV at all
(23:35):
at this point, so I still kind of thought reality
TV was like they just document what's happening, and they
edited and she was like, I promise you I didn't
even kiss that guy, like he yeah. She was so upset.
She was like and it was this huge, like eye
(23:57):
opening experience that the show got canceled after like three
episod so it's like they shot the whole season, but
they didn't air them all because nobody cared. It was
a horrible show. But they were like they just were
like welcome singles and then just pumped them full of booze.
She just remembers the producers being like, guys make drinks.
Guys make drinks, and then this one. Dude's like, can
I talk to you outside for a second, and then
they just cut the footage of a bush and then
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literally put in closed caption sucking sound.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
I mean I feel like if she had a good lawyer,
I know she must have. She must have signed.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Oh no, I mean like you signed, so you signed
so much to And it's also people who are like
in their early twenties who don't know and probably don't
read the there's just psyched to be able, like I'm
gonna be on TV. This is very exciting. I'll sign
whatever you Yeah, she just thought she's a star.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
She's stylish, she's young, she's a manhattanite. She wasn't from
New York. She was just there. But I remember that
feeling of being like and so I think we stayed for,
you know, the end of the episode politely, and then
she and I just kind of left and went to
another bar and she was like that's She's like, I
never even talked to that guy, Like I was just
like on camera and then they were just trying to
force drama. So the more all the stories don't believe
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everything you see on TV. It's probably thick.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's and also just remember that all of that stuff
is scripted. We have like my job, like literally Scotty
would script reality shows. He would write lines, he would
write full plots.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, sure, absolutely true. I absolutely true, many times, many pilots.
And there were times where the producer would be like, Okay,
now we're in a zoomba class. We need big energy ladies. Everybody,
let's do zoomba and Aunt Susan, do you think you
(25:48):
can just pretend to be lightheaded? And then everybody rush
over to her. Okay, action, big energy, and then they'd
be doing zooma and this woman would do the worst
acting I've ever seen, and then the camera would sweep
and the women would run over and the zoom instructor
would like hold their faces like Macaulay Coughlin and home alone,
and that would make the cut. And it's all manufactured.
(26:10):
It's it's a shame, but it's true. We're all being
manipulated by the media.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, it's all I mean, like, yeah, it's it's like
it's just bad acting, a bad actor. It's just bad acting.
It's all bad acting and terrible and terrible dialogue. Go
and watch something written Scottie gimme one baby.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Gus G sent this in. Gus from Colorado, our guy.
He sends lots of great stuff and we've met him
a couple of times, including a banana's veest when I
was so zonked out of my mind. I was like
hey and he was like Gus. I was like, oh, goss, Hey,
hey dude, what's up. I'm dying of altitude sickness. Woman
speaking of dying of altitude sickness. Woman wedged upside down
(26:56):
between boulders for seven hours while trying to retrieve her phone.
My god, my God, I love, I love, I know.
Here let me click this link because I forgot to
write down the person it was in The Guardian. Kurt,
that's a real one and it was written by Josh Taylor.
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Eliah's Visantae double writers.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
One typees the asdfg's and the other types the hjk ls.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
M oh yeah, here we go. A woman was wedged
between boulders for seven hours after she slipped head first
into a three meter crevice while trying to retrieve her
phone in New South Wales. Matilda Campbell's friends initially spent
(27:50):
an hour attempting to free her while she was hanging
upside down before they called Triple zero for help. New
South Wales ambulances arrived. The operation to free her from
the unlikely predicament in the Hunter Valley on Saturday twelve
October involved a team of multidisciplinary emergency workers. Well that
(28:11):
sounds good that you know what, that's what you want
in this situation. Multidisciplinary emergency workers.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I'm an EMT firefighter, I'm a cop COASCAR guy.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I'm a pair of trooper nurse. They removed several heavy
boulders to create a save access point. Then, with both
feet now accessible, the workers navigated Campbell h in early twenties,
which is not a shock, feet first up through the
tight s bend. There are photos of this and she
(28:44):
is certainly pinned upside down. Well, it took over an
hour to kind of pull her out of there. She
was there for seven hours. But once they moved all
these boulders, they also did the specialist used a winch
which was used to move a five hundred kilogram boulder,
and then a hardwood frame was constructed to insure stability
(29:05):
during the rescue. So these multidisciplinary emergency responders, this is
their greatest moment she's gonna live. They know they're gonna
save her like this is. She's not bleeding out, she's
just upside down and feeling dumb.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I'm trying to see where. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, it's she is feet to sky.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god. My
chest just dropped because the photo you see is just
rocks on either side and then feet bear tutsis.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's why I'm doing it. It is a wild one.
This is the wild West Wales, which I guess should
be the wild South. In my ten years as a
rescue paramedic, I've never encountered a job quite like this.
At Peter Watts, a specialist rescue paramedic, there you go,
he said it was challenging but incredibly rewarding. I bet
it was. They got her out. Every agency played a
(30:02):
role and we all worked incredibly well together to achieve
a good outcome for the patient. Campbell was freed with
only minor scratches and bruises, which is a miracle.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
It is so so crazy because.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
If she was by herself, she's toasted.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Oh she's toast. And also what I don't understand, so
they lifted a rock out of place, right.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
A couple huge boulders. Yeah, they lifted a five hundred
kilogram boulder out of the web.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Yeah that's okay, over a half ton. My goodness, great,
that is so cuckoo.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Yeah, so what is that? Five hundred kilograms two point
two pounds times two point two.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's over half a ton, I believe.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, eleven hundred pound boulder. That's no small rock.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
How much is a ton?
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Two thousand? There we go, So you're right, it's over
half h Campbell was freed with only minor scratches and bruises.
And here's the kicker, Curdiebee. Her phone could not be retrieved.
So even these emergency personnel couldn't get to this phone.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
What I don't understand when I'm looking at the photos
is she is very deep at what boy? Was she
like I think I can get my phone? Do you
know what I mean? Like that? Or was the phone
like balanced on like a ledge and then as she
(31:22):
fell she knocks it deeper into the crevice. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Well, I only can hope the camera was rolling for
the whole thing. One day they'll get it out. There
are magnet fishing rods. We'll just lower magnet down there.
There's you know, they're rats, you can they're trained rats
that dig people out of emergency.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
We'll get our magnet fishing rod and wipe the phone
as we pull it up.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That's right, Campbell posted on social media. It's safe to
say I'm the most accident prone person ever and I'm okay.
I just have some injuries. I'm recovering from. No more
rock exploration for me in a while, she says. Good attitude, Campbell.
She said, I wanted to give the biggest shout out
to my friends or thumbs up, it doesn't matter what
you call it, and the team who works so hard
to get me out. I'm forever thankful, as most likely
(32:05):
I would otherwise not be here today. So we like her.
That's the right response.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
That is the right response. Congratulations Matilda Campbell. Matilda, You're alive.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
What a treat. Go go to the Apple store, get
yourself on your iPhone or whatever. You were risked it
all for man man, like you said it is. She
is all the way in there.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
When is the last time you were rescued?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Oh, I guess that kidney stone in Mexico, because other
than that, I've never been Yeah. I've never been rescued before,
I've never been that injured before, and I've certainly never
been stuck anywhere. Yeah. So, yeah, just a kidney stone.
When they sent a house doctor from the hotel to
(32:54):
give me a shot of painkiller, didn't work, and then
the empts came and gave me one. It didn't work,
And I got to the nice house Spittle in Cabo
San Lucas and they gave me so much painkiller that
they were like, I didn't feel anything anymore. And then
that doctor was like, it's you have one kidney zone.
That was the thing. You know, Usually people they get
(33:15):
him get lots of them, oh yeah, or they have oxalates,
and so mine I think was just dehydration over years
and years and years, and but yeah, it was that.
That ambulance ride changed the way I understand pain.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Wow. Wow wow wow that And they do say it's
one of the worst pains in the world.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Dude, it is. Uh, it's unthinkable, and I don't wish
it even all my enemies. It's uh. It's the nurse
when she was about to take out a catheter. I
had a catheter also, so I know what a joy
that is. Uh, never wanted a one inch penis more
in my life, to be honest, because get it done.
That guy on the beach at Fire Island, if he
(33:55):
gets a catheter, he's a trouble vienna. That that one.
Oh my god, they're gonna need a whole team of
fireman to back up. Uh it was, she goes, You know,
I've had two babies and one kidney stone, and I'd
rather have another child.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Wow, that's what the nurse said, and then did the
dirty deep and but so yeah, how about you. Have
you ever been rescued? Oh what you did? You did
get rescued one city? Where? What? Uh? What are you
thinking of when you broke your wrist or hurt your wrist?
I guess you didn't have to get pulled out of there.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
And I just wrapped my own hand. Umm, I mean,
like the I remember very specifically, I've been in two
car accidents as bummers, and both as a kid, once
when I was ten eleven, ten eleven and once when
I was twelve, so very close to each other, weirdly. Yeah,
(34:52):
but the first one I remember, I wasn't wearing a
seat bot. I was in the front seat, and uh,
I just gotten my first tape, my first tape as
a ten year old, and I got the Beastie Boys
licensed to ill and uh, I had never put a
tape into a tape deck and so I was trying
(35:12):
to do it in the car and then my mom
said give it to me, and then went looked down
to put it in, and then the person in front
of her slam nutter brakes boom, full speed, thirty five
miles an hour. So I hit the dashboard and then
bounced off the dashboard and shattered the windshield with my head.
But I wasn't hurt. I wasn't hurt at all. It
was just like but I was covered. It was before
(35:35):
it was like a nineteen seventy nine Honda Civic, and
it was before they had the the totally shatter resistant glass.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah, that weird pebble glass.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Yeah, so I had, like I had, they had to
vacuum glass shards off of like my eyelids and my
eye and my eyelashes. And that's what I that is
like my main memory of it, just like sitting there
and then them coming in with like a very tiny
little tube and like suctioning glass shards off of my eyelids.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, that's pretty intense. One of the great things of evolution,
or if you believe in job that is that you
don't remember pain. You can't actually remember how bad it was.
And I think about that all the time because if
you could actually like recall the full pain, oh yeah,
nobody would. It would be unbearable. Life would be unbearable.
It's a miracle that you can't. You can remember sensations, looks, feelings, lights, voices,
(36:32):
all that stuff, but I'm glad. I'm glad you can't.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
This is something I was thinking about today listening to
the new Beach Bunny album and they're a band, and
there's a song on the album that is called what
is it called.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We Got to Get Lily on Again? She'll do it?
She's the best.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, it's called uh clueless, and it's about getting older.
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And I was thinking about would would,
because sometimes you have these feelings about, oh, that previous
time in my life. Oh I look back on that,
(37:13):
and oh I wish I was there, do you know
what I mean? Like, Oh, that was what a cool time,
you know, And I just don't think I do that.
I don't think I have a moment where I was like, oh,
I wish I have like specific weekends where I was like,
if I could go re re experience that weekend, that
would be amazing. You know.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
But it's interesting to me because you seem like kind
of with your friends and stuff, you seem pretty nostalgic.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, but like for very specific units of time, but
not like but not like oh my my twenty fourth
year or my twenty ninth year. Sure, you know, like
that was ah man, Yeah, like, oh I when I
was just starting comedy, because that's what I hear from
people a lot of just being like, oh I wish
(38:03):
I was back when I was just starting and I
was just all this stuff was new to me and
stuff and it's like no, you do, no, you don't.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
I agree, I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
It was like so frustrating all the time. It's just
it was constantly frustrating and you had a day job
and it sucked. It's so much.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I you know, I waited so many tables in so
many places for so many years, and it was a
lifeline and I made great lifelong friends and it's amazing
and I still love a lot of those people a lot.
And Sumo and Somo hugg and still listens to the podcast,
and we waited tables together in Brooklyn and uh but
shout out Sumo. But everyone's a while, I'll be in
(38:43):
a really great restaurant. I'm watching the staff and the bartenders.
They're having fun, they're all making money. The meal's great,
food's good, everybody's cool, and I'm like, man, i'd be
fun to wait tables again. And then I know that
it's true. I would like it for one night a week,
one week a month where if I could just go
into a good restaurant, I want some able section and
just be charming and I was a good server, it
(39:04):
would be great. But I think the only chance I
ever have for that is I ever open a bar
and then I bartend on whatever the slow night is,
so no server or no bartender has like I'll just
go in and do my best on Monday nights with yeah,
with that crowd. But that's the only chance I got
because I'm I can't trying to never go back.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I do see that in your future, because that is
what you've said you wanted to do since you were
like twenty four years old, is you want to own
a bar and be a bartender, and I cannot wait
for you to realize that. I cannot wait for you
to finally sell the script that makes it all possible.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
You have me too, and great feeling.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
And then just be like, that's it. I'm going to Toos,
New Mexico and opening a bar.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Perfect location too. Yeah for tailwinds. Yeah, all up in
tailwinds and tows. It's great ding for a bar. My
first bar is gonna be called Tailwinds.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
I love tailwinds.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
It's I mean, it's almost like wind Jammer that's just
right up there.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Tailwinds will be an airplane theme bar. Then we got
quitting time, which your your your bill comes on a
pink slip, so when you get out of there, I
fire you. So you get out of there, go home.
I'm going to quitting time, and then I have to
do one that's called like Ravens Roost or something since
I'm from Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah maybe, yeah, I'll tease us into some thumbs up here.
Woman files for divorce after chat GPT reads husband's affair
and coffee cup.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Holy smokes, that's a crazy there's.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
A lot going on in it.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
Yeah, well good, here we go. Thumbs ups. Let's get
into some positivity for our beautiful bananas. Ali Burrows wants
a thumb her husband Corey way up for being an
actual saintan sticking with Ali through six rounds of chemotherapy
and taking care of literally everything for us. He says,
I couldn't have done it without you, Corey. Well, I
(40:54):
just got missed the thumbs up, Corey. You got me
choked up there. Ali thumbs up to you. We hope
you're doing great. Josh Humphries wants to thumb his girlfriend,
Brittany way up. She's a long time been animal, a
dry sixty nine master nice and she got tickets to
see Curdie b this summer. Yes, most importantly, well, I
think that's most important, but we'll get into this. Most importantly,
(41:17):
Brittany finished an eighteen point six mile Norwegian foot march
while carrying a twenty seven pound rucksack.
Speaker 1 (41:26):
WHOA, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
You're a big hiker, carc eighteen point six miles. That's
a lot with a thirty pound rucksack.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Even though her blisters became so bad they were bleeding
through her boots, she still finished the foot march and
deserves to be proud.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I love that it is being called a foot march
and not a hike.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
I don't know what a Norwegian foot march is, but
it sounds badass. Thumbs up to you.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Good for you. Yeah, we like all the outward bound
ones by the way pan animals feel.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Send your thumbs up for people you care about yourself
to the Bananas Podcast at GMA dot com or the
Bananas Podcast on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
So if anybody, yeah, go go ahead. I'll do this
one more.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
I got one more. Katie B from New Jersey Katib
KATIEB and Curdie B, best friends from New Jersey, is
thumbing herself all the way up. Katie ran her fourth
marathon in April.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Kirk congrats.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
She set a personal best. She beat her previous time
by sixteen minute. Nice work. Think about that. That's like
if you're running an eight minute mile. She basically was
like two miles ahead of her normal.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That's amazing crazy.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
She said she was listening to bananas while she ran.
Kay and Kate also wants to thumb up her aunt
unclean cousin John Piper and Grace, who also completed their
first marathons that day.
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Thumb thumb up. Nice four of you. Good congratulations. If
you live in New York City and you work at
a bar, or you work at a restaurant, and you
want Kurdie B to come home by that a drinke.
I want to know about all the cool places I've
been away for twelve years. Please DM me at Kurk
(43:11):
Brown and just let me know where I should go.
You don't even have to work there, just say this
is where you should go. I'm already on the on
the list is already the bar in Bushwick where they
race turtles.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
Oh well, that sounds very Brooklyn. I'm ready worth going to.
Everybody's talking about that honey butter pancake at the Golden Diner, Curt.
That's the that's the viral thing, Okay, I can't stop seeing.
So you go get that honey butter pint. And then
I want to go and get those hot steaming dumps
from sho jaofoos who or fooz Oh. That place is
(43:50):
like it's one of those places where for like five
dollars you get like ten dumplings, holy steamy dumps.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Is it in Brooklyn or is it in Chinatown?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
In China Town.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
All right, sweet baby, here it is?
Speaker 2 (44:01):
Is it you or me? Excuse me?
Speaker 1 (44:02):
A woman files for divorce after chat gpt read's husband
affair and coffee cup. This is God is a wild one.
This is a wild one. This was sent in by
also Valerie.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Oh doublella, you're too get chat gpt an affair alleged lady.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
This was in vice written by Ashley Flake.
Speaker 2 (44:28):
Oh sorry, Ashley, You'll be somewhere better one day.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Ashley, You're the best in the biz. A Greek woman
ended her twelve year marriage because chat gpt told her
to not directly, of course, but close enough. After making
Greek coffee for herself and her husband, she took photos
of the grounds left in the cups and asked chat
gpt to interpret them. Following a rising trend of AI
assisted tessiography. The chatbot reportedly saw signs of infidelity, specifically
(44:57):
that her husband was fantasizing about a woman whose name
started with an e, and that this woman was trying
to destroy their family.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, I believe it.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
So naturally she filed for divorce without telling him. She's
often into trendy things. The husband said on the Greek
morning show to pro and o. One day, she made
his Greek coffee and thought would be fun to take
pictures of the cups and have chat GPT read them.
He didn't take it seriously. I loft it, laughed it
off as nonsense, but she didn't. She told me to leave,
informed our kids about the divorce, and the next thing
(45:26):
I knew I was getting a call from her lawyer.
When he refused to agree to a mutual separation, she
served him formal papers three days later. His lawyer is
now fighting the case, arguing that an AI generated interpretation
of coffee residue has no legal standing. Quote he is
innocent until proven otherwise, the attorney told Greek City Times.
(45:47):
According to the husband, this wasn't her first brush with
alternative belief systems. She had previously followed in astrologer's predictions
for nearly a year. The divorce has set off a
wave of commentary on Greek social media and pulled in
a pinions from actual testiography practitioners, who are quick to
point out that photographing leftover sludge isn't exactly how it works.
(46:08):
Traditional readings also consider foam patterns, the swirl and the saucer.
This wasn't divination, just the algorithms doing their thing. And
yet here we are a marriage collapse, not under the
way to betrayal their lives, but under the interpretive powers
of a chatbot trained to autocomplete text.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah that's fine, Ai, I don't want to be married
to that person. If somebody divorces you for this, great,
oh what a what a blessing?
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, yeah right, it is they that woman did not
want to be married. No, that's all this.
Speaker 2 (46:40):
You're lucky devil. If anything, you saved yourself. Just so
many conversations. Yes, just beat your feet down the street.
Speaker 1 (46:48):
I can understand if I don't have no idea how
divorce law works in me, neither in Greece. But definitely
they were saying like, he's innocent until proven guilty, and
I was like, he's not being accused of a crime.
But maybe in their system if you're being like, if
she's saying he was in you know, having an affair,
then then she would get everything at all.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
I have no also not a crime, of course.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Yeah, yeah, maybe in Greek Greece it is Greek people.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Maybe let us know, yeah, grease Greek ban animals. Let
us know, is having a marital fair or crime there
because if it is, yes, I also.
Speaker 1 (47:25):
Like, look, I'm not going to shoot on I'm not
going to shoot on people look at coffee grounds and
pretend to tell you the future from it. But it
is very funny that once we involve AI, people are like,
uh uh uh no, no no. But if it was
just a human being looking at coffee grounds, that that's real.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Also, isn't it. Like I guess I kind of understand
the tea leaves or I kind of understand like somebody
that drinks something really fast, maybe it would drive a
certain way, or somebody that takes their time, maybe they
settle it. Like I can understand you can study sort
of basic behavior by what's left over. I could kind
of see it the old that predict the future.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
The only thing that the only thing that the only
way it possibly makes sense to me is in a
very broad way. And when and I do subscribe to
this in that we are all connected, you know what
I mean, like that that you and I are one,
that we are we are the same as all of
the particles in the universe, and so therefore the grounds
(48:32):
and the coffee are in some way us, you know,
like hell yeah. But other than that, you gotta buy
you gotta have a deep buy in to that.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
That.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Also, the coffee grounds are concerned with your affairs.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yes, if somebody says I'm getting divorced, I want a
divorce and they have an explanation like a I read
your coffee guards, you run away.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
You are right. I'm walking out the door right now,
and I will send my friends for my stuff. You
have won the lottery of divorces.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
You really have, You really have. Congratulations.
Speaker 2 (49:13):
Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
You were married to a person who is.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Not all there, and they'll probably have a robot partner
soon enough that satisfy all their specific quirks, and you
will be on a jet ski in Saint Martin with
a new person who will have a better outlook on life.
Good for you, good for you.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Well that bananas, folks, That.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Is the Nana's kurdiebee. We did it again.
Speaker 1 (49:45):
We sure did pal They said we couldn't. They've been challenging,
they have been challenging us.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
We do not back down from a fight unless we're
going to lose or the people are bigger than us.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Oh we only hear my hot take before we got.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I live for hot takes. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
Literally, you should not be able, yes, already on board.
If you are in charge of payroll for independent contractors,
you cannot be a salary. That cannot be a salaried position.
You must also be an independent contractor in order to
(50:25):
issue payment for independent contractors, because the amount of arguing
with people who have a salary about checks that are
owed to me.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Is exhaust movies all the time.
Speaker 1 (50:39):
It takes up so much of my daily time because
I get checks from all these different places and I
have to have arguments with someone who is guaranteed a
check at the end of the week, no matter what
they do. To have to fight for a check, it
makes me furious.
Speaker 2 (50:56):
I have it with a movie right now where they're like, hey,
we're going to pay you when the movie starts shooting,
and I'm like really, because I wrote the script a
year ago, and they're like, well, you get triggered. The
payment gets triggered when we start production, and we're gonna
start production, don't worry. I'm like any estimates. They're like nope.
So I'm just sitting here with a full salary. Something
(51:17):
that would help me out. So much and they do
not care what a life anyways. I like it. I
also think representatives and the House for Representatives should make
whatever the median in their district makes. Love it. Oh,
I'm down change everything.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
I would change everything. Also, I saw this crazy thing, dude,
I saw this crazy thing that like it was something
like median household income in the United States or individual
income the United States? Is it said seventy five thousand.
But then if you subtract the top ten richest individuals,
(51:57):
just ten richest individuals from that, it drops down to
sixty thousand. Then you subtract the top one hundred richest individuals,
it drops down to fifty five thousand. Then you subtract
the top thousand richest individuals, it drops down to forty
five thousand median income.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, in reality, man.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yeah, it's a I understand. I understand. Oh, well, what's
the powerball at this week? That's our best bet of
getting out of it. Powerball is that one forty six million.
The cash value is sixty five point six I could
(52:37):
do a gamble, do it, but it's gonna be somebody bananas. Heyeh,
bananas is an exactly right Media Production.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Our producer and engineer is Katie Levine.
Speaker 2 (52:52):
The catchy Banana theme song was composed and performed by Khon.
Speaker 1 (52:56):
Artwork for Bananas was designed by Travis Millard.
Speaker 2 (52:59):
And our benevolent overlords are the great Karen Kilgareff and
Georgia Hartstart.
Speaker 1 (53:02):
And Lisa Maggott is our full human, not a robot,
part time employee.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
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