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September 9, 2025 • 52 mins

Kurt and Scotty talk about a man who stole lunar rocks to use during sex after promising girlfriend the moon and the hidden power of sharing cute animal pics!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Scott you ready, Oh, I'm ready to really laugh and
laugh and laugh.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Man steals twenty one million dollars of lunar rocks from
NASA to used during sex after promising his girlfriend the moon.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Kurtie, B I did this one?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
What?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
I definitely did this one? You did? Yeah? I bet
that I'm back in twenty twenty one when we have
no brains.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
I have no memory of you doing this one.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
And you know what, neither does anybody else. So we're
going to get in doing it again. We're sticking our
flag on an orbiting planet that we like to call Bananas.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Do world understand?

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Would you? It's your lindzillion pieces.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Would try to break? Guys, gals, non binary pals, Welcome
to Bananas.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
I'm Krip Brawndler I and Banana Boy number two Scuty Landis.
Thank you for listening to Silly's podcast. There ever was
we should do just a little bit of housekeeping. We
we got to talk about Bananas Fest.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Bananas Fest is coming up. I mean like, I don't
know when in a hurry this is gonna get released,
but it's October fourth, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
It's coming fast. So come here's some basics.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, basics about Bananas Fest.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
We're gonna have a talent show, Sunboy, one of our sponsors,
is gonna sponsor a talent show where you can do
anything you want. So, whatever your thing is, bring your
thing to Bananas Fest. It's gonna be fantastic. Yes, bring
clean bras. We're gonna try to break the record for
most people wearing a brazier on their head, so bring
a new one, any size, any type. Our audiences mostly women.

(01:53):
You know bras better than we do, yeah, much better.
But we're gonna that's gonna be one of the first
events of the day. Our first savend of the day
is going to be Splitty in the City.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Splitting in the City. That's a one k downhill marathon, folks.
We're going to start it at Denver Beer Bruco and
walk over the two Hi Fi all right.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
To the location.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I think this year it is exactly one.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
K correct way easier than last year.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
This is so it'll be much and also I think
the weather will be much nicer and more pleasant. You
can actually wear a costume, a full costume and not
die of sweating. This will be the first splitting the
city where that's possible.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yes, Denver Beer Company is the starting point, and then
Banana's Fest two is the finish line, where we will
literally walk right up into where all the events and
vendors and streets and fun and all the things, stilt walkers,
you name it, we're doing it, and other things to
mention if you're dressed like a bird, Kurtie b and
I are, and some of our volunteers, including Scarlet and

(02:56):
Lisa Maggott are our real human, part time employee, not
a robot. We're gonna be hanging out like stickers and
patches to people just as birds, because everybody's a winner.
Charlie Fromage Dance contest for those of you there last
year are ben Boy number three. Charlie Fromage is gonna
go up. We're gonna have a DJ playing music. If
you want to enter, you just gotta do your best
Charlie Fromage or an inspirational version of dance. We're gonna

(03:21):
have Pretty Gay, a live version of Pretty Gay with
Catherine McCafferty. That's gonna be an hour long in the
middle where she's gonna do her wonderful show Pretty Gay
Live for You. And drag King Bingo, which was a huge, huge, huge,
huge hit last year, and it's exactly what it sounds like.
A couple of bananimals drag kings call bingo. It's fun,

(03:44):
it's shaded. It's a time to catch your breath and
giggle and socializing, gossip.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
And then we'll also of course be doing the dog
costume contest as all the big ones.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
As always it's the big one. Yeah, many many, many
more insane games things. We're literally every week when we
have our meeting building up to this, we're like, what
else can we do that's insane? We're gonna have our
hunk back from last year. It was the sweetest hunk
ever you could take photos with a hunk. He's a
decent man. Well, stay where they belong.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
If I get what I want, it'll be a ski
sale with an actual stone machine where it's snowing, and
the hunk will be there just with mittens on and
nothing else pants, some hot pants, mittens and hot pants
and you guys can have some hot chocolate together with
folk sweet photo in the snow.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
And then we're going to be selling for a charity
that we haven't decided on yet, but probably a Colorado
based charity. On top of everything else. I have a
desk I've talked about on the podcast. It is from
the Library of Congress and I'm going to have everybody
sign it. And so last year we signed a giant
banana that was wonderfully made by bananimals. This year we're
gonna sell this desk and it is so damn nice.

(04:58):
Tickets are going to be a dollar penny of that
is going to go towards a very good charity. And
whoever wins that raffle drawing is going home with a
folding rolling desk. You can pick it up with one arm, folks.
It probably weighs eighteen pounds from the Library of Congress
that I wrote at least at least eleven screenplays on
in probably fifteen television pilots, along with many many awkwardly

(05:22):
worded emails. So the desk Raffle is on Sign it,
buy it, support a charity. We'll tell you what it
is next week.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
All right. So that's Bananas Fest. And then of course
after the free street event is over, you can board
the bar bicycle and bicycle your way. We will have
a bar block. Yeah, one block to the venue. We'll
have a bar bicycle that just goes back and forth.

(05:53):
So it like fits like ten people, I think, and
you can have some drinks and take a bicycle ride
over to the venue, get out of the venue, and
then we'll be doing a live bananas for of course,
that is a ticketed event. That's the only thing you
need a ticket for, other than getting yourself to Denver.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Folks being go. We look forward to meeting you, seeing
you guys. There's gonna be so much more stuff going
on again, there's gonna be roller Derby that weekend. We're
gonna do some stuff on the Friday before. So basically
Banana Fest two is more than two times bigger than
last year. It's just gonna be a great time. And
it's about bananamal is becoming friends. So anybody just as
a banana, anybody in yellow, you're gonna recognize. People feel

(06:32):
free to say, are you a bananimal? Hey, I'm from here.
Talk to each other. This is a great, great time
for people to become new friends. Yea happens all the time.
It's a good community of sweetheart people that we just
love so much.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
You do, Scotti, how are you?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I'm excellent. I'm having fun. I was looking at my
phone because we did have a Bananamal offer to do
the cardboard excuse me, the wood painting of two dogs
on a snowmobile that we can put our face in,
and I was going to call them out. I will
find her name and we're going to give her a
massive shout out next episode. I'm wonderful. I'm just feeling like,

(07:10):
you know, this time of year is it's a dead
time in our in what you and I do, including
your off right now. I'm off right now. But I'm
looking forward to this fall. I just feel like, I
don't know, I feel like everybody's been grinding it out
for the last eight months, and I feel like we're
just going to kick in the gear and have a

(07:31):
great fall everybody.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I'm ready to have a great fall.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Dude, I think it's coming your way. Oh I think so.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
I think so. I think I think it's I think
it's on the way. We've said everything in motion, hopefully
it will arrive and uh yeah, Fine'm getting settled in
here trying to figure in stuff out.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Thank you to all the Banan animals who reached out
with white wine recommendations that I can so many on
the East Coast. Really helpful, very very genuinely helpful. I
have been drinking better wine and I really appreciate that
you guys are really the best community in the world.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
It's crazy, and you know, my sister. I checked him
with my sister and was like, Hey, when do my
nephews go back to school? And she said, one starts
this week, one starts next week. And to this day,
even as a dude who has been out of regular
school for twenty years, fifteen years, I still feel that
feeling at the end of August where you're like, oh

(08:33):
my god, I don't want to get up and go
to school anymore. And now I can just be like,
ha ha ha, I don't have to on September two.
I don't know I'm gonna who knows what I'm gonna do.
Maybe I'm gonna lose and buy a leaf blower and
just blow some leaves around my front yard. I can
do whatever I want.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I don't, so the feeling I remember having now is
not is the nerve excitement to go back to school
that involved back to school shopping where you're like going
out that specific feeling of like getting a trapper keeper,
getting all your pencils and your pens like that that
because also we have to do that in La I

(09:14):
don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
If you know this, Gottie, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
But the schools provide all of the school supplies for
the kids. Oh nice, Whereas in New Jersey it's how
I grew up, where it's like you have a bag
and you have your pencils, and you have your pens,
and you have your erasers, and you have your little
like things that you put on on your pencil for
some reason that make it a triangle that seems to
make it makes it harder to hold the pencil. Uh,

(09:36):
and then like a trapper keeping. So we're going to
be doing all that stuff, and that is the like
the anticipation of, like accumulating the goods prior to the
arrival of school was always like a fun time or
fun or like a very specific emotional memory for.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Me and shout out again we did it a last week.
But all the teachers going back to the stat dude
setting up bolts and boards or getting lessons plans righty,
or cleaning desk, who were I mean, they have to
do so much work. My mom was a teacher. She
graded papers until eight o'clock most nights. It's not a
nine to five job. It's like a six to nine job.
And shout out to all the teachers who actually give

(10:12):
a shit. Yeah, I bet it's getting harder and harder.
And you know what's funny is when you're a kid,
you look up and you go, adults are great, And
then you become an adult and you go, oh my god,
we're adults better or have they always been a complete disaster?
And then out of that group there are just like
twenty percent that are incredible, Yes, that are raising wonderful,

(10:34):
decent children. It really is.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's weird. But also, like we do enough stories here
about the past where I feel like, no, adults have
always been pretty terrible, So it's even more shocking that
back then there was good teachers.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, now they just have mom talk and I don't
know what dads do whatever, dumb dad talk, It is
just what have we done? What have we done?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Dad talk is just kook slams.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
I think I saw these two dudes today. There were
certainly a couple, and one was certainly the more let's
call him the leader of their couple. And I was
at a cafe and ordered a coffee, and then I
looked over and they ordered, and then one pulled out
a book, a paperback, and the other one pulled out
a paperback, and then one put out a pencil, and

(11:26):
then the other one pulled out a pencil, and they
just sat there underlining and making notes on their two
paperback books. And I was like, look at these two go.
Look at these guys go. And in my head, I
was like, one of these guys fucking hates this so much.
One of these guys thinks this is so smart and
cool and interesting, and the other one's like, I just

(11:47):
want Brian to like me. I'm just doing this for Brian.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
You know. I so like on the kindle you can
like highlight things that you like and save them, and
I and I did that, but it was like then
it was like, I don't know when do I ever
come to my kindle to look at quotes that I remember?
And that's the thing about like when you're reading a
book and you get to a passage where you're like,
oh my god, like that's incredibly insightful or that's a

(12:12):
beautiful way to say that, I don't know what to
do with it. I've been I've been starting to copy
it and put it into my notes, yes, so that
I just like have it around. I'm gonna try and
see it because it was because you know, I've also
been going through and rereading all of Kurt Vonnegut's books,
revisiting my childhood.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
He's the best. He's really legacy stands up.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
It does.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
The what's very strange for anybody who's rereading Breakfast of
Champions is a wildly crazy book, which I did not
realize when I was fourteen years old when I read it.
Also has the N word in it maybe five hundred times,
which is crazy to read now.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Too many times. That's probably five hundred too many times.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
It is so much that I'm just like, oh my god,
because it's not in any other book like that I've
read so far. This is my I'm back on my
third Vonnegut and it's only in this one.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
This is so easy not to say offensive words. I
know when people are like, I just want to say
blah blah, I'm like, uh, it is so easy to
just not just to delete a word from your life
in vocabulary. It could not be easy.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
And also like there is like I can see somewhat
of what he's doing in Breakfast Champions, because he's trying
to talk about the people that he like grew up around.
And it's but he uses the word like as a
character is saying it for the most part, but he
also uses it as the narrator. And then that's when
he's using it as the narrator, it all of a

(13:46):
sudden becomes like a little sticky. You know, it's not
like this person said that, but it's rather him talking
about it. Not great, No, let me see.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Here it is.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Now there are just very depressing quotes.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I just looked at them and I was like, what
are these great funny? I think you should work this
into some sort of side stand up act, like not
your main act. But there is something funny about all
the things that in the moment you think are important
and then you go back and read it and that
you realize you are the wimpiest door who's ever been.
Because when I get when I you know, I'm reading
this one now called The Thorns. Pretty good book? Yeah,

(14:25):
pretty good? Yeah? And oh let me that's a great question.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Is the funniest part.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Well, it's because when you don't have a paperback, you
don't close the book and look at the cover every time.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
I know.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's why tangible media is far, far, far superior. It's
by Dawn somebody I don't remember, don So. Don So
wrote this. She Uh, there it is don Curtage. It
is good though, uh, and I'm really enjoying it. But

(14:55):
there are a lot of oh. She also wrote the
Madness Kurt, which I know you won't shut up about.
But other people, when you read on a kindle, you
know when the underline things, I'll say, thirty four people
have highlighted this.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
I hate them.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
When I read them, I'm like, why this quote? Would
I have discovered this on my own? Yes? Would I
have highlighted this? Absolutely When I see thirty four other
losers around the world have run it, and I'm like
cornballs at my butt.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I remember I was like looking when I was packing up.
I found a big poster board that I had just
written a quote on. And I don't even know who
the quote is from. I should google it and find out,
but it is.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
At the time, I thought it was so impactful, which
is to eat is only to survive, to be hungry again.
I think it's probably Beckett.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
That is deep. I do feel like everybody feels that
way still, and man, that is so funny, goddamn. But
also I feel like maybe you were searching for a
lot of things back on and then now your dad,
now you've a family that now you found a lot
of meaning in life that you were probably looking for
back in the day. And now it's eating Spaghettio's off

(16:11):
the floor. Hit me with the moonshot.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I will, I will, But this is a fin to
do this. I will share my one Becket quote that
I do love, and it's a it's a very often
quoted Beckett So everybody knows this, but it's fail again,
fail better, which I love that try it. It's like
it's ever ever failed, no matter, try again, fail again,
fail better. And that is the story of my life.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Hey, you're you're winning to meat, but.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
I'm failing better. I'm failing better.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Failing better every day. Man, here we go.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
You ready for this.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I'm ready to just laugh my asshole.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
I cannot believe you did this. This is such this
is such a wild, wild story that I can't believe.
I don't remember you doing it.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I was in the it was in that twenty twenty
one twenty twenty transitional break koar period where nothing exists
and it was all mirage. But I definitely did this
because I saw this rolling in on the DMS, and
I would have done it, but I'm like, anyways, please
proceed here and we have a whole bunch of new listeners.
Welcome to Bananas.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Welcome to Bananas. This is sent him by Kelly Flack.
Thank you Kelly.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Thanks Kelly.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
If you want to send us some strange news that
you find interesting, you can go to our instagram, The
Bananas Podcast and dm us, or you can email us
at the Bananas Podcast at gmail dot com. The DMS
on Instagram will get responded to the emails, possibly Flower.

(17:44):
This was in preprol magazine. Thank you people, people, and
the people.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Who wrote it.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
Mark Gray, thank you Mark.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Ooh that dirty dog, he's good.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Man steals twenty one million dollars of lunar rocks from
NASA to use dooring sex after promising his girlfriend the moon.
I love it so much. This guy handsome man. I
would say, this is a handsome man. He looks like
a little bit in between Bradley Cooper and Ryan Gosling.

(18:16):
That's what this man looks like and he is a
raging lunatic. Yeah, and when I say lunatic, I do
mean the luna of the moon.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Here.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
It is good, thank you, that's good. The most out
of this world heist occurred just over twenty three years ago,
which ultimately led to sex on the moon literally. In
July of two thousand and two, NASA interned.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Thad Roberts that yeah, I remember that too bad.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
His girlfriend of three weeks and another friend stole seventeen
pounds of moon rocks and a meteorite from Houston's Johnson
Space Center in a daring dead of the night burglary.
The crime involved authentic NASA badges, rewiring security cameras, and
neoprene body suits to a voids, setting off thermal alarms.

(19:02):
It took NASA several days to notice the missing six
hundred and one pounds safe containing an estimated twenty one
million dollars worth of moon rocks from every lunar landing
from nineteen sixty nine to nineteen seventy two. That is,
those are peak years for lunar landings.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Big time. We don't even do it anymore. That's how
peak they were. Except they were like there's nothing up there.
This place sucks.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Roberts, the brain behind the heist, was twenty four years
old when he arrived at NASA, having completed a triple
degree in physics, geology, and geophysics at the University of Utah. Eventually,
Roberts met Tiffany Fowler, a twenty two year old who
worked in NASA's Tissue Culture Laboratory conducting stem cell research.

(19:49):
They began a relationship and moved in together within three weeks.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Cuckoo movie. That's a little fast. Yeah, that's some nerdy stuff.
That's a little fast than animals. Take it a month,
not a month.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Take it one month, three weeks. Three weeks is crazy's fast.
I mean it's just the beginning of the lunatic moves
these two make, anyway. Not long after, he told her
about his idea to steal moon rocks, which she said
intrigued her.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Well, she studies skin tissues or something. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
I was in love with Tiffany, he told the La
Times in two thousand and four. In my mind, I
was thinking, baby, I'd give you the moon. It would
be a romantic start to our relationship. When Fowler agreed
to be an accomplice. The duo grabbed a third person,
she Shar. That's his name, Shay Sarah Shae Sa. You

(20:39):
are no idea?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
What can I buy about?

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Shar? Also a NASA intern to help. These are all
NASA interns. I love it because you you think you're
a NASA intern? Yeah, probably pretty pretty dorky, these guys.
They are immediately like, let's steal twenty one million dollars
of lunar rocks and then fuck.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
I liked the idea, the idea of stealing lunar rocks
to have sex on them. I liked the idea, kid,
do you like it?

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I love it. I think it's the best reason to
steal lunar rocks.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I agree, while okay, here it is.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
On July evening, the three interns pulled up to Building
thirty one, where the moon rocks were being housed. Roberts
now forty eight, and Fowler headed in the building while
Sour reportedly served as a lookout and watched the rewired cameras.
The couple, don neoprene bodysuits, went straight into the airless
room and fled with the safe, which was cracked using

(21:35):
a power saw. In my own head stealing something wasn't
the way I looked at it, Roberts told CBS in
twenty twelve. We weren't gonna take this money we were
getting from it to go buy a yacht or lots
of cars or a big house. Oh, we were gonna
live just the small kind of lifestyle we were. But
fun science that might change the world, you know, you
know kind of what NASA does.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
You're interning the place in the space program in America. Well,
I guess there's two now, but not back then.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah then okay.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Asked why I doesn't want to have sex on a
pile of rocks. I mean, that's the ultimate, that's the
real third base as base, no rocks, third base.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Rocks rocks, second base, steel rocks, Yeah, steel rocks. Asked
why he went through with the heist, he said, I mean,
the simple answer is to say that I did it
for love. I did it because I wanted to be loved.
I wanted someone to know that I'd literally cared about
them that much, and to have the symbol there to
remind them of it. Using the defense that he was

(22:40):
essentially a fool in love, Roberts has argued that the
theft wasn't financially motivated, but the FBI said otherwise, indicating
he had been in contact with a buyer from Belgium
who was willing to pay the asking price of one
thousand to five thousand dollars per gram.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Oh big mistake.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Buyer, though I know, got suspicious. The buyer got suspicious
and contacted the FBI, who quickly sent undercover agents to Orlando,
where the sale was set to take place.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Oh so that's full of crap.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
On July twentieth, two thousand and two, the thirty third
anniversary of the first moonwalk.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Of course, doesn't think about that when they hear that date.
It was the first thing that sprung to my mind,
one of the Big five. But also the fact that
they probably know that, do you know what I mean?
Like working at NASA, they probably definitively like scheduled it
for them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Roberts and Fowler drove from Houston to Orlando to meet
with the buyer about an hour before the sale. Though
Roberts had an idea good took some of the moon
rocks and I put him underneath the blanket in the bed,
he said. He and Fowler then had sex. I never
said anything, but I'm sure she could feel it. She
never said anything directly either, but it was more about
the symbol of what we were doing, you know, basically

(23:55):
having sex on the moon. He told CBS. It's more
uncomfortable than not. But it wasn't about the comfort at
that point. It was about the expression. And no one
has ever had sex on the moon before. I think
we can safely say that. I mean, this guy is great.
He put moon rocks under the bed.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Didn't mention it. She do. She had to know, right,
Women know everything. Women ignore the million dumb things guys
do constantly all the time. Women are fully aware of
what is happening to them with their bozo idiot boyfriend,
and they go with it because they're like, you know what,

(24:37):
seventy eight percent of the time, he's all right, But
there are definitely rocks underneath this a great foam path,
and I feel everyone that, hey, you gotta get your
rocks off somehow.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Here it is Roberts.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
That was good.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Robert's luck ran out shortly at the meeting with the
undercover agents who placed him and Flower in handcuffs. Authorities
Sour Sour and Flower later that day, and a fourth accomplished,
Gordon mcward, Corter mcwarter, all these people's names is amazing. Sad. Hey,

(25:13):
I'm Gordon mcwarter, I'm Sarah.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
No wonder some of these guys of space. All of
them are crazy.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Uh Still, the FBI said the rocks are now virtually
useless to the scientific community. Why because somebody jizzed on them?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Is that it is?

Speaker 2 (25:33):
That it NASA?

Speaker 1 (25:34):
That's all it takes. Then, come on, campoo talk is
out of commission for all NASA studies.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
From a press release, added quote. They also destroyed three
decades worth of handwritten research notes by a NASA scientists
that have been locked in the safe.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Come on, guys, Oh well then fuck damn that sucks. Yeah.
Now here's also one rock is enough by the way,
one No one would have noticed one rock and you're
still having sex on the moon. You're still having sex
on the moon. Yeah, you didn't have to steal six
hundred and one pounds safe destroy st wetsuits were just

(26:11):
for them.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
They just thought it was sexy. Here's the here's the
best part. It comes right at the end. Scottie m
thank you. He was released two years ago. Oh wait, sorry,
he was released two years early from prison in two
thousand and eight, after serving more than six years of
an eight year sentence. Okay, Fowler and sour pleaded guilty
and were given one hundred and eighty days of house arrest,

(26:36):
one hundred and fifty hours of community service, and three
year prob probation, and ordered to pay more than nine
thousand dollars in restitution NASA. First off, that's crazy, Like
those two were like eate it, like did the crime
with him and he they just had house arrest for
a couple months. That's crazy. And then mcwarter was found

(26:59):
guilty and also served six years. Mcwarter, we don't even
find out about mcwarter till.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
The very end. Oh God's just hovering around. Just sorry.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Here's the hook, here's the crazy part. This is what
I meant to read first. This is what I meant
to reade first. Roberts pleaded guilty in two thousand and
two to stealing moon rocks.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
He also admitted to stealing dinosaur bones and fossils from
the Natural History Museum in Salt Lake City while he
was attending the University of Utah.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
This guy just going in and stealing weird shit from museums.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yes, but he's in the past and the future, so
I kind of respect this guy. He doesn't steal from
the present, right, So we have to send this guy.
He should have been on Sliders, the TV show.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I wonder if he fucked on the dinosaur bones too, Oh,
you know, owning on bones?

Speaker 1 (27:51):
You know he did a man. Yeah, so this guy
is a thief and a bit of a klepto. I
do admire his he is a visionary. I think we
can probably look up a follow up to see if
he ended up if they ended up together, because if
they did, then love conquers all. But if he didn't,

(28:14):
I guess he's got good stories to tell.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I'm looking it up right now. While you give me
a next headline.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I'll gladly do it. So this one was sent in
by Brandy Dacas, who you know, there are a lot
of animals out there who work for state governments and
local governments and federal governments, and I know it's a
trying time for everybody out there who's doing that. Sometimes
you get laid off, sometimes you get hired back, sometimes

(28:42):
you get furloughed. Sometimes you don't know what the hell
is going on. But for all of you who do
work for the most dysfunctional bureaucracy imaginable, keep up the
great work. It's not your fault that everybody above you
is a total jackass.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, I'm going to shout out my brother right now
for that, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Damn right, shout out. It's a strange and confusing time,
and that's why I'm doing this story that Brandy sent.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Study before you start. Before you start, I just will
let everyone know. Okay, Fad and Fowler did not end
up together. Ooh they never reconnected. Oh understandable.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, yeah, he went away for six years and she
was only house arrest for one hundred and eighty days.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, she's got to move on. She's not going to
wait six years for Fad. It was a three week
long relationship.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
The woman that moves us exactly what I was gonna say.
She's the kind of woman, Yes, was the kind of
woman that will move in with you in three weeks.
If you don't think she's gonna move out with you
in one hundred and eighty days or six years, you've
lost your yourassic mind, you jack ass. Also, I still
don't understand how the moon rocks were destroyed. But then again,

(29:58):
I don't know anything about it anything because I'm not
an educated man.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, I think what it is is like once they've
been removed from their like little confined area that was
like airless and whatnot, it's kind of like, well, we
don't know if this damage or this occurred while someone
was humping on it, or if it occurred while it
was just sitting on the moon, So we'll never know.
So now they're useless to us because it was not
no longer a controlled environment.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
I actually think you could turn this into a pretty
good Apple TV too, do you oh do yeh? Kind
of like a Bonnie and Clote one hundred.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
And then also you have a backstory of the bones too,
What the fuck is going on? He never got he
never got in trouble for the bones until he got
in trouble for the rocks.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Man. I know when you get away with the bones.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
You know, yeah, you think you're like, okay, we got
to make it big or twenty one million dollars worth
of moon.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Rocks, that's right, And they were wrong. One time I
was sitting in a cafe and there was a song
and it just kept repeating Bonnie and Claw over and
over and over.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
It's a French song.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
And I was like, I don't like this song. I
don't care for this song. I sing this piece of
shit song and I used I used Google and I said,
search this song and listen to it Lulu Gainsburg And yeah,
you guessed it, Scarlett Johansson.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Oh, it's a cover because the original Bonnie and Clyde.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
It's a very nice song. The original, it's very nice song.
But the one I heard was scar Bardeus.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
The one that I always listened to was Brigitte Bardous,
which I love.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Well, yeah, she's the real deal. Holyfield. Anyways, shout out
to a huge fan of the podcast, Scarlett Johansson. We'll
love to have you on again. Study reveals hidden power
of sharing cute animal pics. Okay, so basically this was
a Newsweek written by that swing in Newsweek staff. From

(31:59):
clumsy puppies to grinning chimps, adorable animal content is fantastically
popular on social media. That's true.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
That is true. It's kind of the nicest part of
social media.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
That is so it and so babwa. Excuse me, But
while these charming snaps are a source of instant joy
for their viewers. It turns out that their impact goes
beyond just entertaining. Give it to me, I'm going to
hit you hard. With a study from Concordia University, they
have concluded that sharing cute animal pictures online strengthens digital

(32:31):
connections reinforces bonds with social groups and online communities. So
it's a good thing to share cute animal picks with
the people in your life. Love. The researchers compare the
act of sharing animal content on social media to pebbling,
which is a behavior often observed in penguins to show

(32:52):
that they care about each other.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
But little rocks up each other's assholes.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Man, that is, and so did that. The penguin offer pebbles,
which serve as nesting materials in the barn Antarctic, to
their chosen mates as a way to acknowledge their relationship
and affirm their commitment to each other. Really share, but
what I mean? You know it's called you don't got much?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
You don't got much?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
What do you got?

Speaker 2 (33:17):
You have tied a couple of tidy pebbles. That's nice of.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Them, studying them down there and it gets cold. You
see one move a pebbles near the other one. The
other one doesn't seem to upset. You write your report,
you get back inside. Oh my god, hold down there.
Shout out to the tube and animals who are in
Antarctica we have Oh my god, that is that is crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Also, sweatshirt to one that's fantastic. Also, I want to
give a big old shout out to Denise, the zoo
keeper down at Jenkinson's Aquarium, Point Pleasant, New Jersey, who
I met over the weekend and uh regaled my child No,
not of an animal, but maybe someone she knows listens
to it. Regaled my children with stories of penguins they

(33:57):
knew personally from the Essex from the Turtleback Zoo here
in Essex County, because Jenkinson's helped care for some of
their more famous penguins when they were doing some renovations.
So shout out to zookeepers in general, especially ones on

(34:17):
little boardwalks in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
There you go, very specific, very wonderful. So sharing cute
animal content with friends and family has a similar purpose
as the pebbling maintaining and nurturing relationships in digital space.
After all, fifty percent of global social media users say
their main reason for being on social media is to
keep in touch with family and their loved ones. Okay,

(34:45):
that's yea more than I would have guessed, actually, but
that's very nice. That's a good reason to say. If
you're asked, you know, so you don't say pornography or whatever.
The actual buying illegal fireworks. The study outlines frameworks that
explain the content's journey from to circulation. The first step
is called indexicaliation in dexicaliation, which is the process of

(35:07):
taking an animal image, gift or gift or video and
adding an emotional cue or meaning to it, like a
hashtag or a caption to signifies one relationship to it.
Next comes re indexicalization indexicalization, so this is the content
is shared and interacted with. Also, we got to come

(35:28):
up with a better word for that. That isn't insane.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
That's the dumbest word.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
It's just finding it, hashtagging it, sending it, is what
I'm saying. The final step is decontextualization, when the content
is stripped of personalized information is shaped into widely relatable
content like memes to appeal to a broader audience. Or findings.
Quote our findings imply that a companion animal's capacities as
social lubricants traversed to digital space, thus facilitating interactions and

(35:55):
reinforcing relationships as companion species content.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Also the reason that word is so complicated, Scotty, because
this is a person who decided to do a study
about sending dog pics to people. They're like, we gotta
make it sound like it's science and not just memification.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Step one, step two, fire it off. That's the fire step,
and then decontextualization. We know that word. We've heard that before.
The studies focused on cute animal content, but the researchers
suggest that the same principles are likely to apply to
similar types of digital content, like pictures of food or

(36:39):
posts featuring funny children. Not funny pictures of food, good
pictures of food. What about sunset kids? I wonder if
sunsets fall in here? I bet you they do, And
I bet you dick pics are the exact opposite. Well,
they should be, as they should be. Yeah, that's an
interesting thing, but I felt like it was a nice

(36:59):
thing that sharing cute animal picks is actually very good.
I love that one of the good outcomes of the intranet,
which is on the web.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
It is on the web, and of course if you're
a member of our patreon, we got Feline Friday's Baby.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Oh yeah, TBIF Thank Bananas. It's felines and I don't
know if you saw the chat room, but it is.
It is why off every week. I want new picks
of these cats. I don't care if they're old cats.
I want new picks. And I'm gonna post a new
chat every Friday on TB. If it's going great, I
love it.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
It's really fantastic they are.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
You're gonna tease me into some thumbs ups, buddy boys me,
of course I do. We love a thumbs up.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Of course I do. Composer John Williams says he never
liked film music very much.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Great, perfect, good for him, smart choice all the way around.
Thumbs ups. MICHAELA. Doster wants to give four thumbs up
to two listeners who she loves, Alexis Bowster or Boster.
Maybe it's Doster Boster. Sorry, maybe it's Mikayla Doster for

(38:07):
buying their first house and a second thumbs up a
double thumbs up for her husband's band. Okay, so, Alexis's
husband's band released their first song after two years. They
are a pop punk band called Mighty Vices. Oh nice
is a very good name.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
That's a good name.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
There are a lot of bad band names out there.
There are even more bad improv team names out there.
Mighty Vices is a very good name. Congratulations. They have
a new song, they have a new music video. So
if you enjoy finding new music and new bands, please
go online and search for Mighty Vices. And thumbs up
to Alexus for buying a house. It's very hard to do.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Heidi Frazy wants to give a huge thumbs up to
her cat cam Cat Cam, Yeah, cat Cam. Sadly Cam
had to be put to sleep recently, but he was
the goofiest, loveliest cat who saw through so many stages
of her life. Cam's favorite toy was a cosmic banana,
which sounds which is exactly what it sounds like. It

(39:08):
is a cloth banana that is completely loaded with cat. Yeah. Baby,
I'd like to check can't like to check out a
little bit and just unwind yeah, and then really wind
it up too. Huge thumbs up for being the best
cat and hope she's having an amazing time up in
the big cosmic banana in the sky, which I like. Yes,

(39:28):
I'm starting to think that we're all going to end
up in the cosmic banana in the sky. Thumbs up,
thumbs up. Rita Gena is thumbing herself way, way, way up.
Ten years after graduating with a degree in landscape architecture
from Oklahoma State, Go Pokes, having two she had two kids,
and she had one cross country move. Rita passed all
of her professional exams and is now Rita Schiller PLA.

(39:52):
That is professional landscape architect. Nice, so thumbs up Rita
and Rita, says Scotty. Most people don't know this, but
professional landscape architects are the stewards of the land who
connect nature and design and engineering on large and small
scales to maintain the health and safety of the land
and its users. Very proud of yourself for getting that

(40:15):
license while also being a working mom. So thumbs up
to all working moms out there, and double thumbs up
to read A gene who Kurt is now a PLA.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Oh my god, I want to be PLA. That sounds awesome.
I love that stuff. That's all I like.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Now.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
I think all my Instagram feed is no longer boat content,
which was I mean, look, I still got a lot
of boat content, but I think a lot of my
content is just the installing stone pavers. Oh yeah, that's
pretty such, very satisfying.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, we all go through phases. The drain cleaning phase
is a big phase for everybody. The guy that just
cleans up everybod yards and just free landscaping, that guy,
because what a treat. But yeah, I could get into
some real masonry and that's not at least a one
you're gonna love. Gurty Bee. Stephanie wants to give big
thumbs up to her dad, Michael Arsenault, which also might
be arsen know, but my buddy in college was last

(41:09):
named Arsenal, so I'm going with that. Who is on
who I think completed but might be on a five
thousand mile cross country bicycling trip to raise money for
nam I, which I'm going to just call it NAMMY. Yeah.
NAMMY is the country's largest grassroots mental health organization that

(41:29):
is dedicated to all those affected by mental illness. And
Michael is riding from Maine to Washington State. He's going
to try to average sixty miles a day. Wow, And
he raised twenty five thousand dollars he reached his fundraising
goal for Nammy, and I found another an article. His
daughter said it bananimal, but I found an article about

(41:53):
Michael that's and his quote said, I have wanted to
ride my bike across country since I was a little boy.
Nammy came into our lives much later in life. But
we decided, as I pulled the retirement parachute and do
the bike ride, I should also do it for something
besides just riding my bike. And again, Michael raised twenty
five thousand Sammy, which is mental illness. So I'm thinking

(42:16):
Stephanie who sent it in, and Michael bananas.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Of the Bananas of the week right on.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
That's a great, great job, guys, that's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Also, that is that is such a great thing to
do right when you retire. I love that idea. Helly,
I want to do that.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Maine to Washington State, the prettiest state to the other
prettiest state. Go get it.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Oh so gorgeous double Portland's Oh, I guess that's in Oregon,
but it should Portland to Portland.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, all right, that's true.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I'm gonna tea I'm gonna give us this little bit
send us.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Home, Send us home so you can send your thumbs up.
You can send your thumbs up to us anytime. I'm
getting through them as fast as I can order of
getting them to the Binanz podcast of Gmail or to Instagram.
And no anniversary is no birthdays, but just root your
cell phone. Root Everyboil song. We all need a little
pick me up these days.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Wow, it sounded like you were playing at one point
five there for a second. This was in The Guardian.
This was written by Dahlia Alberje.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Hell Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Composer John Williams says he never liked film music very much.
As one of the most As one of the greatest
composers in film, John Williams has written some of the
most memorable music in cinema for masterpieces such as Jaws,
Jurassic Park, and Star Wars, but despite winning five Oscars,
the ninety three year old believes that as an art form,
film music pales in comparisons to history's greatest works. I

(43:47):
never really liked film music very much, he confessed in
a rare interview for a forthcoming biography. He added, film music,
however good it can be, and I usually it usually isn't.
Other than maybe an eight minute straight here and there.
I just think the music isn't there, that what we
think of as this precious, great film music is we're
remembering it in some kind of nostalgic way. Just the

(44:11):
idea that the film music has the same place in
the concert hall as the best music in the cannon
is a mistaken notion. I think he added a lot
of film music as ephemeral. It's certainly fragmentarian. Until somebody
recon reconstructs it, it isn't anything they can even consider
as a concert piece. Among the more than one hundred
movies he's scored are the Indiana Jones films, E T.

(44:34):
Schindler's List, in the first three Harry Potter films. He
is the world's most nominated living Oscar recipient, with a
record fifty four nomination recognized that his music has played
a crucial role in enhancing and heightening a film's emotional
emotion and atmosphere. With two haunting notes, he captured the
chilling threat of Great White Shark and Jaws We Whoop,

(44:56):
while his mournful Jewish lament in Steven Spielberg's The Shindler's
List conveyed the heartbreak of the Holocaust. He was interviewed
by Tim Grieving for a biography. Grieving was taken aback
by Williams's dismissal of film music. Quote his comments are
sort of shocking, and they're not false modesty. He is
genuinely self deprecating and deprecating of film music in general.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
And inside of his platinum metal airplane flying around just
burning one hundred dollars bills for fuel. Oh this sucks.
Oh this music terrible. I could only live the perfect
life doing the thing I love for ninety three years.
Booh this sucks. Only made a billion people happy with

(45:39):
these songs. Boo, I mean I love Sure he's right,
but what a jackass. I'm sure John Williams is a
genius and he's absolutely right. Knows more about music than
I'll know about any subject, including even being myself. Yeah,
and yet he's completely wrong about it.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
It is so funny where someonhen someone is just like
listened to the like, yeah, agree, they're iconic songs, right
Inana Jones, Star Wars, Jurassic Park. It's all. They're all
iconic songs. But if they were not attached to the movie,
they would not be rememberable if they were not part
of that memory of that film, and how how much

(46:17):
you like that film, I don't think they would stand
as pieces of music on their own.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
It's interesting because I what music isn't tied to nostalgia.
I think he's saying it's tied to film nostalgia. I
think all music is tied nostalgia. I think everybody loves
music that reminds them of a moment or a friend group,
or a person, So I think the only value of
music is nostalgia. Interesting argument well, also because I'm not

(46:44):
somebody that loves music the way that a lot of
people love music. And I've thought about it so much,
like why don't I just love new music as much
as other people? And I think when I've been I
was at a wedding and there was a cover band
and they're playing classic crappy club band music, but we
all have fun. And then they played Taking Back Sunday,
which for some people is a very popular band that

(47:06):
was a little behind your my time, but people were
singing and pointing and sweating and screaming the lyrics so
much that I'm like that that's all means more than them.
But they're thinking about being in high school or in college.
They're not thinking they're connecting because they all had different experiences,
different places, but that band brought them together. So if
hearing the opening song to Star Wars makes nostalgic for

(47:32):
people that love Star Wars and that kind of thing,
but also so is the first time your teacher went, hey,
here's Mozart and you're somebody passed you a note and
had boobs and a middle finger drawn on it. And
if that Mozart reminds you of that it makes you happy,
then mission accomplished.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
I agreed. I agree with a other present. I also
bet you John Williams shits on popular music as well,
because popular music is by far not as complicated as
like Beethoven and Bach and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, well, it's like Spielberg lockches the water Boy the
say in the movie loves it. It's one of his
favorite movies. Christopher Nolan recently said that if Talladega Knights
is on, he drops his remote and finishes Talladega Knights.
So I bet John Williams, like, I bet there's a
pop pop song that he is just like, I love
this song that is.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Have you seen these letterboxed interviews on on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
I've seen some, but I'm not too familiar even.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
Basically, letterbox is an app where you can share like movie,
you know, for people who love movies, and they can
say like I saw this movie. They review movies. They
it's really cool. But they whoever their marketing is going
up to people on the red carpet and saying like,
what's your letterbox five or whatever? Okay, and so like
movie stars now expect it and whatnot, and so everyone's

(48:47):
got their list and it's always just like I wish
they were fucking like honest. The only honest one I've
seen is Seth Rogan's where they're all just popular mainstream movies.
He's just like, these are my favorite movies, and they're
all popular mainstream movies. Everyone else's is like the first one,
it's like Happy Gilmore, Star Wars, and then three movies

(49:08):
you've never heard of, Oh, the nineteen seventy six silent
Japanese film a Kuratunoto, And it's just like, no, that's
not the film you put on to relax when you
come home from a.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Hard day at work. Of course. Not. I pitched not
long ago a rom com to Zoey Deschanel and the
pitch was going really well and for her to star
in it, and towards the end she was like, what
is your favorite movie? And which is crazy question? What
a crazy because I'm pitching a rom com because so
what am I sister to be like Harry Met's Sally

(49:40):
Eternal Sunshine on the Spotless Mine, or some French food
like jewels and Jim. Yeah, jewels and Jim. Don't you
love jewels and gym so much? And instead I was like, well,
it changes all the time, and it's usually based on
something I watched and I've been thinking about a lot,
and right now it's Silence of the Lambs, and it
fell like, I knews you it ends.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
The Lambs is an excellent movie.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
It's incredible. And she's like really, She's like, because I'm
in like a film club and we all watch this stuff.
I go if you watch on some Lambs. First of all,
Hannibal Lecter is only on screen for sixteen minutes, and
he's one of the most iconic monsters in movie history
and he's on screen for sixteen minutes. But what makes
that movie so good is Clarice Starling played by Jodie Foster.

(50:25):
Every man in it is staring at her and trying
to get in roads with her and hitting on her
while she's just trying to do her job. She's a
young woman surrounded by literal monsters, even in the FBI,
and she still figures it out and she's here and
saves the day. And as I'm saying this in my
head like or saying it out loud dissoy dationannel in
my head, I'm going like, I should have lied, and

(50:48):
I should have said. Eternal Sunshine on the Spotless Mind
is my favorite movie. Yeah, but it's not.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Oh no, I do like that movie.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Answer, I do like that, elf, That's just it, Elf,
you're great in fact.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Do you want to change this into a Christmas movie?

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I like Home Alone more. Sorry. John Williams, stan over here,
number one guy.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Thank you guys for listening to this. Funniest little, the
silliest little, timmiest little, the simmiest little podcasts there ever
was Scott.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
The Good fun Boys. We're feeling good, We're having fun.
Curti buh Nia, No, Yeah, it's sort of like a
yoga class. Bananas I like it. Yeah, Bananas is an
exactly right. Media production. Our producer and engineer is Katie Levine.

(51:41):
The catchy Bananas theme song was composed and performed by Kahan.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Artwork for Bananas was designed by Travis Millard, and our.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Benevolent overlords are the great Karen Kilgareff and Georgia Hartstart.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
And Lisa Maggott is our full human, not a robot,
part time employee.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton tackle the biggest stories in news, politics and current events with intelligence and humor. From the border crisis, to the madness of cancel culture and far-left missteps, Clay and Buck guide listeners through the latest headlines and hot topics with fun and entertaining conversations and opinions.

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