July 8, 2025 • 53 mins
Kurt and Scotty talk about how the CIA secretly ran a Star Wars fan site and a man walked 15,504 miles to find out if world is terrible place!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here it is baby Oh. The CIA secretly ran a
Star Wars fan site.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well that bat news is out of this world. Let's
get into a very special episode of what we called
the podcast known as to us bananast World. Would you believe.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Your mind?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Resilient pieces? Would you believe Bana Baby Bananas?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Guys, gals, non binary house, Welcome to Bananas. I'm speaking
to a Scottie Landis who does not seem to be
in his normal in his normal home right now.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm in the Life Hotel in Manhattan on thirty first Street.
I don't mind dosing myself because I leave tomorrow morning.
It's where Life magazine used to be head quartered. Nice.
The hallways are dingy, yep.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The frame looks old.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But the room is nice. So for those ban animals
traveling to New York City, if you want to stay
in Manhattan, you'll find yourself really taken care of at
the Life Hotel on thirty first between fifth and sixth
Gritty b. It's good to be back in the city.
New York in May is a very beautiful, oh place
to be. I walked sixteen thousand steps today, not even.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Try, not even trying.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And I don't know. I know you've been back a
few times since we've left, but have you been on
Broadway since we moved away? Broadway is all thank lanes now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yes, it's crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I rode a city bike from thirty first Street all
the way down to pass the flat Iron building, so
I guess in West tenth or something, huh. And it
was so pleasant. I kept thinking that you and me
and all of us who would go to the pit
shows in Manhattan when we were starting out in comedy,
we would have ridden bikes home. I would say fifty
(02:15):
percent more because there's a one hundred eight shot through
the middle of the city now.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And also they're available everywhere like we moved before city
bikes existed.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, it's a you're gonna have a great time when
you're moving back east. You know. New York is just
the greatest city to visit when you know it. And
so I've just had two days of I'm here for work.
I pitched a movie, an animated movie yesterday morning. It
went great, and that's all I had to do. It
was like, all this travel for one hour, isn't it great?
(02:47):
I've been eating I'm staying in Koreatown. I've been eating
Korean food like crazy awesome. So shout out to all
the New Yorkers who have stuck it out because it
is so fun.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Oh dude, I'm excited. I'm going to buy because like
all my the backpacks I've had for the past I
think twelve years, have all been shwagged. They've just been
shwagged backpacks, backpacks that I've given by TV shows. Sure,
and I'm going to buy myself a nice backpack that's
(03:19):
incredibly comfortable and like very functional and cool looking. And
then I'm going to buy a bike helmet. I'm going
to keep the bike helmet in the backpack, and then
I'm going to ride the city. I'm going to ride
the goddamn wheels off a city bike.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Baby. Yeah, it's fun. Man. I didn't have a helmet today,
and I'm a huge wear a helmet proponent. This is
a very rare thing for me. But I'm just here
on vacation. And also the city bikes, I was not
going fast and I was not an electric bike. I
was cruising the drop bars what's considered a lady style frame,
so at any point I could put my feet on
the ground so easily. But I was astonished. Besides that,
(03:56):
how little had changed. I expected so much more change.
There's a bunch of skyscrapers for billionaires and other missholes.
But it felt I'm sure Brooklyn, where we where you
and I lived for a million years, Sure that's different.
But the city, man, I was riding by places, I
was like, I used to drink a barfly. I used
to drink at Molly's. I used to, Oh wow, I
(04:18):
used to. And I went to Vanessa's Dumplings, to.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Their beauty bars, still there on forty bars.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
On fourteenth it's still there. And now there's a coyote
ugly two doors down from it, which is embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Coyote. I can't believe it business still exists. I know
that seems like it would have faded out. It doesn't
seem like it's coyote uglies time anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, but I think there's a certain swath of straight
men who love to be humiliated. I think it's a
real thing for I think there's guys out there that
like to be humiliated. It's really you know that show
with John Wilson, that HBO show where he just walks
around films everybody and tells stories.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So funny.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
What I saw today you could have made four or
five episodes. Now I realized the strength of his show
is his ability to go back and find his own footage.
The ship I saw today walking around from nine am
until four pm. Like I it was as if I
was on a different planet, but like adorable stuff. Like
(05:23):
I saw a guy selling capybara stuffed animals and union
square that all have like little bonnets on, and he
was holding one, yelling into a FaceTime and.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Like an actual copy bera, no like stuffed ash stuff.
Oh stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
He was just like, what the fuck? And and I'm like,
while holding one, yeah, while holding one of the things
he's selling, and he has a table full of like small,
medium and large capy beras or capybaras with little bonnets on,
and he's just reaming somebody up. And I'm like, that
would have made the show.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And you're gonna have That's amazing, man. I can't wait.
I'm excited to go. I just I'm excited for this
portion of it to be done. You know, Like if
you've noticed, I am in a different part of my
garage than I normally am. I'm usually in the back.
I had to pull like cause we're just like piling
(06:18):
up boxes in the garage. So I finally had to
pull all the boxes out, all the furniture that we've
put in the and take my desk out from the back.
And now I'm against the sidewalk, like right near the door,
and it's all everything. It's all just boxes now as
you see.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Oh good, I'm happy you think it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think you look cool.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So many hours of work, it's I it's it's insane.
I can't understand it. But also, what a much nicer
background this is. I got the love butt over my
left hand shoulder. We got some keep it dry towel
over the left I mean, like this like looks like
an actual office almost.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, sure does, Yeah, sure does. You'll be all right.
I think it's a are You're getting rid of tons
of stuff when you move, and you can get rid
of stuff. It is such a There should be a
game show that they go around to people who have
lived in a house for ten years and the competition
is they weigh all your stuff and then whoever can
(07:24):
get rid of the most stuff within twenty four hours wins.
Because you feel sometimes you have things in your life
and you're like, oh, I like, I have one right now.
When I was a young banana, my friend Steven Saint Amant,
who's this great artist, gifted me a desk and it's
(07:44):
from the Library of Congress. And it has this leaver.
It's got wheels, and you pull this lever and the
wheels drop down and you can roll the desk and
then you pull the lever the other way and the
feet of the desk lock in. And I wrote when
I was in Brooklyn, that was my desk. So the
first ten to fifteen screenplays and pilots I wrote, We're
at that desk. But the desk itself is just a
(08:05):
simple wooden desk. It's probably worth maybe fifty dollars, maybe
one hundred dollars. It's cool, and it does have a
thing a seal on the bottom of it says Library
of Congress's. And I still have it, and it's in
my garage and I have not used it. I never
used it at the cabin, so I haven't used it
in thirteen years.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Where the hell did you store it in the cabin.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I don't remember. I think I think it was in
my closet and I put like shoes and towels and stuff,
but I had sentimental value, but now it doesn't. And
so now I'm like, do I put it on offer up?
I don't have Facebook anymore, so it does. And then
I'm like, is this just a free item I put
on the corner with a sign that is free And
the answer is yes. Somebody will really enjoy it. Some
(08:47):
child will do their arithmetic on.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
One percent and also say, from the Library of Congress,
it does say it on it, write that on the
free thing, so that people know, well, people would totally
take that hunt.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's so oh cool. But I just have no need
for in my life. And I don't know, it's been
in purgatory, right, It's been like you have all these
things in your life that are in possession purgatory, and
it's time to just flush the toilet and get them
out of there.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh man, I you know, I've been struggling with this
with these T shirts, Like I have one full drawer.
I have one full drawer of T shirts that I
have not worn in twelve years. Okay, but every time
I go through them to get rid of some of them,
(09:32):
I'm like, that's a pretty spec Like one of them
is the T shirt I got that doesn't fit me,
but I got it. It's the Arcade Fires first show
in New York City, opening for a band called The Unicorns,
who were I remember. I was a big fan of
the Unicorns. No one had ever heard of Arcade Fire
(09:54):
and it was the show at which I was interviewing
the Unicorns for a documentary, and so I interviewed everyone
an Arcade Fire. Wow, they're at their first show in NYC.
And I bought that shirt and it's like, so that's
shirts like a special shirt, but it doesn't fit me.
And it's not a great shirt. No, it's like poorly printed.
(10:19):
But it's all of the shirts are like that, like
they have a story behind them. They have and so
people are like, oh, you make a quilt out of it,
or oh you frame it or something like that, and
I'm just like, yeah, I don't necessarily need a quilt
of like Arcade Fire rocket from the crypt T shirt
and my Pavement T shirt, you know what I mean. Like,
(10:39):
so I just don't know what to do with it.
I kind of don't. I still kind of don't want
to get rid of it. But also I'm never going
to wear them again, and now they're.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Ever wear your big shirts. I used to love wearing
my dad's shirts when I was a kid, like a smock,
just like running around. I looked like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
Just like a shirt, like a dress. Even that Shaquille O'Neil,
extra extra, extra, extra large short. Yeah, I wore at
the Phoenix Show. It was like being a kid again,
where it was like wearing a dress.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But yeah, yeah, it'll be It'll be quite a long
time before they can fit into a large adult large.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You know, they're lucky they got big shoes to Phil
Papa six'.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
FOUR i. KNOW i hope we'll see the.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Taller we'll, see we'll see. Taller that's the. Thing you
just don't. Know you never.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Know you want to hear, This, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Tell me all about tell me all about.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
This at THE cia, sake THE cia secretly ran A
Star wars fan. Site this is a fascinating. STORY i
was so excited to find. THIS i just found it
On reddit and this is on four oh four media dot. Co,
yeah which IS i don't you. KNOW i have no
(11:49):
idea what this is. About BUT i had to sign
up for an account in order to fucking read, it
and it's.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
A spy so bad. Man LIKE i read all The
John lacy novels And i'm just like somebody walk up
to me and be like we need, you And i'm,
Like i'm. In you tell me who In hollywood do
you want me to spy?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
On John? Correy is he the guy who wrote that book.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Comes in from The Cold Tinker Taylor Soldier. Spy, no
it's a.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Guy he's like a culty like see like espionage fiction.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Writer.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah but one of his books THAT i read in
high school was all about The bosque. People do you
does that ring a bell at? All an old title
of the book was something t like literally are we
had to read it for?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
History no, kind not That i'm familiar. With but he's
wrote so many great. BOOKS A Perfect spy And The
Constant gardner both big ones of. His, yeah but he
He and also he wasn't even a spy for very,
long but his dad. Was he passed away in twenty.
Twenty and his memoir that he reads it's like The Pigeon,
(12:57):
TONNEL i believe it's Called it's so interesting, anyways like
they talk about espionage back in you know sort of
The Cold war era and, before and people would just
walk up to people and recruit. Them your spot you,
were you were for us. Now And i'm like walking
Around hollywood like sneaking. Around i'm like wearing a black
(13:20):
trench coat and like just looking around. CORNERS i bet
you they're never looking at L. A it's it's probably.
Somebody it's probably Like Denzel. Washington they probably have somebody
that's so high up and beloved and he's just got
dirt on.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Everybody so this was, This this literally just came out
on the four oh four AS i call. It this
was written By Joseph, Cox Joey cox babys in The
joey coxbi uh quote like these, games you will the
quote next to a cartoon image If yoda says on
(13:57):
the website Star wars Web. Dot those games Include Star
Wars battlefront two For, Xbox Star Wars The Force Force
unleashed two For xbox three, sixty And Star Wars The
Clone Wars Republic heroes For. Nintendo We next to that
are links to A Star wars online store and the
tagline so you want to be A, jedi and an
(14:17):
advertisement for a Lego Star wars. Set the site looks
like an Ordinary Star wars fan website from around twenty,
ten But star warsweb dot net was actually a tool
built by The Central Intelligence agency to covertly communicate with
its informants in other. Countries according to an amateur security,
researcher the site was part of A cia network OF
(14:39):
cia sites that were first discovered By iranian authorities more
than ten years. Ago Zero, santilli the, researcher said he
was drawn to investigating the network OF cia sites for various.
Reasons blah blah. Blah santilli found OTHER cia link, sites
such as a comedian fan, site one about extreme, sports
(15:02):
and A brazilian music. One in his own write, Up
santillia says that some of the sites appear to have Targeted, Germany,
France spain And, brazil judging by their language and their.
Content he says it reveals a much larger number of.
Websites it gives a broader understanding of the CIA's interest
at the, time including more specific democracies which may have
been targeted which were not previously. Mentioned it goes on and.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
On so it's a communication. Platform they Were.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah so you would go to like star warsweb dot net,
unbelievable and then enter into like star warsweb dot net
slash user like blank slash, password and then that would
come up with a chat box that would be a
chat box directly to THE.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Cia.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Wow, Cool and So sentilli's right up goes into an
extensive detail on how he uncovered the Star wars and other,
sites and includes all manners of things like digging through
a massive historic domain names and the SITE'S html and
using a small army of tour bots to bypass the
wayback MACHINE'S ip. Throttling he said he did all this
(16:09):
without paying for any data and instead used freely available
online tools for his slew thing like this is a
guy who just like wants to know what THE cia was,
doing and it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Makes sense you would start with. It that guy would
probably looking at the Star wars website being, Like i'm
not familiar with. This, Yeah i'm reading this. Code this
doesn't seem Like Star wars. Code and then only somebody
that was a fan of both things would solve. This,
yeah if it was up to you and, Me i'd be,
Like i'm On clownpenis dot, fart AND i still think
this is the legitimate.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Website Zach, edwards an independent cybersecurity, researcher told four h
four media the recent efforts to uncover the WEBSITE'S cia
used to communicate with their spies all over the world
aligns with WHAT i understood about this network were now
about fifteen years past when these websites were being actively,
Used yet new information continues to trip out year after.
(17:02):
Year the simplest way to put it, is, yes THE
cia absolutely had A Star wars fan website with a
secretly embedded communication. Systems and WHILE i can't account for
everything included in the research From, cyro his findings do
seem very. Sound this whole episode is a reminder that
developers make, mistakes and sometimes it takes years for someone
to find those. Mistakes but this is also not just
(17:23):
your average developer mistake type of. Scenario so do you
remember WHERE i said of a comedian's website was also
used by THE? Cia?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, who, Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
CHRISTOPHERITIS i went TO i went to this dude's original
thing that he published because he just like published this
on his website which is called Our Big book dot.
Com uh good, title and it's called twenty Ten Covert communications,
websites and he goes all into all of this shit
(17:58):
of how he figured it out and what he, used
and then he set up this database that people could
add to if they wanted to use more of his.
Dude it's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of. Sites,
YEAH i, mean and they just all have normal sounding,
(18:18):
names you, know The internationalworld dot, com The, World dashnews dot,
Net Cityworld news. Now but here's SO i. WAS i
was like, immediately, LIKE i gotta find out who's, what
what comedian what? Comedian and so you. Can they're all organized.
Here it says it's it's this is what it. IS
(18:41):
i just found. It it's web Of cheer dot com
has an unarchived members only section pointing to web Of
cheer dot com slash member dot html copyright two thousand and.
Five Features Johnny, Carson Charles, Chaplin Rowans, atkins The Three,
stooges and some Other American americans no one knows about.
(19:04):
Anymore there must have been a Massive Johnny carson amongst
THE cia contractors at that. Time given All johnny dot,
com it was All johnny dot.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
COM i would never google, That so that makes a
lot of. Sense yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
RIGHT i would never be, like, what what's everything About Johnny?
CARSON i want to see some Old Johnny carson jokes right?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Now MAYBE i would, ACTUALLY i just like When Rodny
dangerfield was on. There yeah it's a fan.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Site, yeah it's rosta Star, wars, webbotnet, All johnny Dot
com And web Of.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
CHEER i want to hear the craziest story THAT i
have to say, this So i'm Gonna i'll just say.
It i'll, Say, Okay i'm not going to use any. Names,
okay this is a Very hollywood. Story, yeah it's also very.
SO i was writing this movie for an actor who's
A i would not say AN a list, actor but
(20:05):
a very beloved. ACTOR i was writing this in twenty
sixteen or twenty, seventeen and It's i've never made A
tv show or a movie with this, person so nobody
CAN IMDb Who i'm talking about and find a connection to.
Me that's the only Reason i'm telling. This, YES i
don't Think i'm actually gonna get in trouble for. This
but he AND i started hanging out. More we were
(20:26):
talking about this idea and we were writing, more and he,
said do you know this other, actor AND i, didn't
But i'm aware of this, person and that person was
very very high in. Scientology, okay like not A Tom cruise,
level but a known person who is a. Scientologist Got
and so the Guy i'm writing with, GOES i was
(20:47):
over at this huge house party at this guy's, house
at this actor's, house and we're all. Drinking you, know
people are doing. Drugs everybody's blowing some, railshere maybe a,
couple maybe a couple of rails are going on. There
all Aboard, amtrak all Aboard. America.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
HALLOWE i, Mean hollywood does like, cocaine.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Folks it's the. Truth they got guys that make. It
in your. House we have. Chemists As i've mentioned some
of the live, Shows i've met people who are, like,
oh this is Blankety blank's. Chemist dude gives him his
molly and you're, like well that's. Good so he. Goes
so this crazy thing happened to, me and it was
(21:29):
like down to like the last five or six. People
everybody's a famous. Person everybody's hanging out in this huge.
House and he pulls the Actor i'm working with us
side and, GOES i want to show you. Something and
he goes, okay and they go out to the pool.
House and in the poolhouse he rolls this actor rolls
up a rug and he lifts a trap. Door, oh
(21:51):
and there's like a secret hidden like spiral staircase to
a wine cellar type of, thing and in it that
actor had scroll platinum platinum metal scrolls of all of
the history of. Scientology and apparently you have to be
really high level to have those scrolls and. Scrolls, yeah
(22:17):
because it was.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
All like made up in like nineteen fifty eight or.
Whatever they're just, like all, right let's make. It let's
make it scrolls so it looks like it's two thousand years.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Old, yeah McDonald's existed at the same. Time he could
get a quarter pound or with cheese at the same.
Time but this was, happening and they were, like you
get these as like an honor and it's a, secret
and then you only have them for like six months
to a, year and then you have to give them
back and then they secretly get them to somebody. Else
but this guy couldn't even. Resist he had to. Show
(22:50):
of course she's coked.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Up he's so coked. Up he's just LIKE i got
it to like just think about. It he's, like, sweaty
it's five. Am just like he's just like and just
like talking to my. Element he's, like come on, down,
man come on in. Here oh my. God it's like
being at the worst drug dealer's.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
House do you know WHAT i?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Mean that's, like, oh come, here let me show you my.
Iguana oh, man how long DO i have to stay?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Here i'd rather see an.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Iguana i'd rather see an.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Iguana that's the, thing is. Like and so we were
laughing because it's, like if you're not a believer in,
scientology then it's it's a good, story but it's not.
Interesting like if somebody's like this Was jesus's crown Of,
THORNS i was gifted this by the Modern night's, templar
you'd be, like, really.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Even if someone did, that you would be, like, no
it's not that. DISINTEGRATED a long time, ago someone sold
you a bill of goods that is a.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Lie it'd be cool if in that same, situation like
you're at a very very famous and powerful person's house
and then let me show you. Something they roll up
their rug in their, poolhouse you go, downstairs they show you.
Something what if it was like The Mona lisa and they're,
like this is the Real Mona. Lisa the one that's
in the loof is a. Fake this is the real.
ONE i was gifted it by you know whoever Billionaire
(24:13):
and it's like and they would never put the real
one like he. Was we were just cracking up because
it felt to the scientologist actor to be a, major major.
Deal like it was, like can you Believe i'm at
the level WHERE i am holding the platinum scrolls that
you for six?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Months of, course, right it's like you've been sucked in
to believe that all of these made up things are
really are infused with so much.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Power mm. Hmm it's so.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Great and also what's the fucking weirdest part is like
on the level of religion's actually accomplishing. Miracles sure some
of these people who are scientologists having careers that it's
actually like the most miracle that of religion is ever like,
done do you know WHAT i? Mean like you're actually, like,
(25:06):
wow look at that this person has fame and money
and they're not very talented and it's because they are
in this. Church that's.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
CRAZY i am. Sure we have scientologists been. Animals it's
in there are so many people we of course we
have too many listeners not to Have some people are.
Scientologists and then you just make the same argument where you,
go is anything they're saying crazier than what all the
other ones are. Saying, no they're not in my. HOMETOWN
(25:37):
i think they.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
ARE i think they. Are oh, YEAH i do think it's.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Great, yeah, no, no, no they're all equally. Absurd, okay
you can say, That BUT i don't. KNOW i don't.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Know maybe it's maybe it's my bias because they're, older
you know WHAT i. Mean maybe it's the fact that it's, like, oh,
yeah well you know they're raising. Dad, yeah it's like
five thousand years. Old so, yeah they got they got
an elephant with they got a man with an elephant's.
Head oh that's that. Shit five thousand years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Was, cool it was, easy, ip okay with all of. It,
Like i'm at the point in my. LIFE i was
out with my Buddy bryce last night after we just
had a couple of drinks and we were just talking
about how now we are at the point where we
just go yes to. Everything like when you're, young you're
so you're like you have hard, opinions you shut everything.
(26:31):
Down you're, LIKE i, know and it's about. Everything it's
about things you don't even care. About LIKE i like hip.
HOP i THINK i love. Rap it's, Great but there
was a time in my life WHERE i would be,
LIKE i need to know who the best rappers, are
what their best verse on their best song that's not
their most. Popular thing is so that If i'm ever
cornered AND i have to say who my and then you, like,
now if somebody's, like who's your favorite? RAPPER i would be,
(26:54):
LIKE i don't, Know, uh probably a commercial About charman or.
Something you just get to the.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Point he's a, bear he's got a little bit of
shit on his, ass and he's rapping about.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It, yeah toilet paper in. Skyscraper that rhymes to.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
ME i hear what you're. Saying BUT i do.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
THINK i.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
THINK i think scientology is like very it has things
to damage, people you. KNOW i think there's ALL i.
KNOW i don't. Know, yeah when.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
We moved out in twenty twelve twenty, thirteen you had
to watch what you were saying at like dinner, parties
and there were a lot more back.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Then oh, yeah there was a lot more back. Then
i've never shut up about criticizing. It but also i've you,
KNOW i haven't worked it a.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
While, yeah that's MAYBE i know your. Solution you're, RIGHT
dB is about to. Explode pretty pretty. Bizarro but, yeah
it is interesting because it's, there it's around the all
the major. Campuses there's a huge. One they're so right
In Los. Angeles the blue one is. Massive and Then
safie is one of the best restaurants IN la is
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directly across the. Street so you just said it.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Before i've said it, before BUT i will tell this
story again BECAUSE i love it so very very. Much
we were getting ice cream With olive And gus at
this place next TO, Ucb and as we get the ice,
cream we come, out we're walking and that just happens
to be directly across the street from a gigantic scientology
center building In. Hollywood, yeah And olive just looks at.
(28:28):
It she loves, science so she just looks at it
and reads the name of, it AND i watch her
little eyes go and then she, Goes, legitimately this is
an exact, quote, well, well, well looks Like i've found
the church for. Me AND i was, like, no, no, no,
no oh, no, no, sweetie it's not about.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Science, yeah turn, around push her into THE.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Ucb yes and, yes and this is where we actually
got THE ucb.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Here NOW i saw it WAS i think on twenty Third.
Street maybe it's it's near The Beauty. Bull oh, yeah
so maybe that's. Fourteenth that's. Fourteenth, yeah so maybe it's on.
Fourteenth BUT i did see. It, no a bunch of
delivery guys hanging out outside of. It i'm, like, man
there you. Go, yeah it was so. FUNNY i if
somebody like took me down the experience of somebody showing
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me and revealing something like that would be the story to.
Me like seeing the thing would have. Zero like you
said in, iguana if a drug dealers, like do you
want to see? Maguana want, Strawberries i'm, like more than life,
itself that fascinates me that it would take a. Lot
it would. Take i'm trying to think of what would
(29:37):
really like blow my. Mind WHEN i was In New,
york there was this like auction websites are popping, up
AND i remember there was one that was selling all
Of Jeffrey dahmer's apartment, stuff and somebody a friend of
Ours carl his friend bought the receipt for the refrigerator
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that they had bought the refrigerator For Jeffrey dahmer's apartment
ruth keeping, victims and so that guy has the receipt
signed From Jeffrey. Dahmer AND i was, like that's, morbid, Man,
like that's a weird thing to.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Have like, ALSO i find That and it is a
thing that it has been revealed to me over the,
ages is THAT i DON'T i do not imbue physical.
Items me, too with. Importance me. Too And i've.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Tried i've TRIED t shirts. Though that's why you gotta
get RAISED t. Shirts, Man yeah it is THE t.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Shirts but, YEAH i guess THE t, shirts THE t
shirts are the only.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Ones the music. Connection music is a really big thing
of your younger. Life AND, i you, know we've been
friends a long. Time but AND i really, RESPECTED i
honor it a lot BECAUSE i didn't have that growing.
Up BUT i think for you they're like cultural not,
cultural they are touchstones in your life where're, like this
is WHO i was at this point and this band
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mattered to.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Me oh, yeah, yeah, yeah one hundred. Percent and it
is interesting how much like the importance has. Slid But
i'm also very excited about going back to The East
coast and going to see a whole lot of live
music with my old. Friends you, know you're gonna have
a great.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Time you're gonna Be my.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Friend damien just goes To he went to twenty five
shows in twenty twenty, four like that. Was that's a
show every two. Weeks he just. Goes he just buys
tickets and he. Goes he goes by. Himself and now
he's going to have a little guy named me standing
right next to him.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Block an hour. Ago, no but SO i apologize for
cutting you off BECAUSE i. AGREE i don't put meaning
on physical items outside of that at, all where, yeah you,
know people pass something around or, whatever and, no this
is a. Thing this is a sacred. Thing, oh this
is a special. Thing And i'm like not to, me, Man.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah it's JUST I i often feel bad about donating
something or getting rid of it Because i'm, like this
should have significance for. Me, yeah AND i just would
prefer that it not be in my.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
SPACE i like signed. Things i'm glad autographs are sort
of still. EXISTENT i think selfies with people are laying
BUT i do think like IF i have a couple signed.
BOOKS i have A Mary roach signed Books. Becuzz when
she did our, podcast she was Promoting, fuzz AND i
have a signed copy Of Mary Roach's, fuzz AND i like.
That i'd like signatures of. WRITERS i like signatures of.
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ARTISTS i like the connection of we were in the
same space and time at the same. Time but other
stuff like you'll never see. ME i don't even like.
Antiques WHEN i go to like antique, Store i'm, like
this is also, Neat, like oh, cool this is how
they use the store. Matches yeah. COOL i have NO
i don't, know LIKE i would never buy memorabilia from
a war or something.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
INSANE i do kind of have one dorky physical item
THAT i do put some importance on and you can
almost see it. Here i'll lift it up. There it
is right. There so it is.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Just a little.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Visine it is a it's THE q card that that
was my show from The Tonight. SHOW i think the
first TIME i did The Tonight. Show and, yeah it
was the first TIME i did The Tonight show and
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my mom was in the audience and it was her,
birthday and so they had written roused about like Watch
Roused about This fall and then we'll be right back
with More Tonight show Like Kurt, brown older ladies and.
Gentlemen and then the way they do it if you
ask for a change after they've already written the, cards
they just take white tape and they put white tape over.
(33:55):
It so there's white tape over like tune into roused
about This, fall and they just wrote Happy, Birthday, mom
and so it's like it's all the, things do you
know WHAT i, mean it's like a big thing in
my career of doing The Tonight. Show it's it's the
fact that my mom is dead and it was her
birthday AND i got to do that for her on her.
Birthday and also there's roused about underneath, it which just
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makes it a little bit different than a normal cue.
Card so look at.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That that's. Different THAT'S i, say all that shit on,
it that's, yeah yeah you created. That that's part of your.
Performance that cue card is part of your. Art, yeah
what an incredible. Thing she got to see, That.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
MIKE i, KNOW i was, like IT'S i almost have
to look at it to remind myself that it, happened you,
KNOW i.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Do, YEAH I I i went back and Watched The
Penelope princess Of pets and roused about years, ago probably twenty,
twenty because when we were all just bored and was watching,
anything and your mom is in a couple episodes AND.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I, feel, god, yeah she had that. INTRO i burst into.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
TEARS i burst into tears WHEN i saw her in
The Little Toy, god That Little Toy. House and this
is the story About.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Grabbin she hated doing it so. Much it was so
funny how cranky she was about doing. It is that?
ENOUGH i hate?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
This, no she was the. Best and then also when
she called you un roused about and it's, like, well
what Does scotty? Think take close To. Scotty she just
KNEW i was going to make sure you didn't. Die
it was a very lovely. Moment. Yeah here's one From JUSTIN. J. T.
McCormack he sent this in and this is very bananas
coded as nobody says. Anymore man who walked fifteen, thousand
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five hundred and four miles around the world to find
out if the world is a terrible place finally reveals his.
Verdict oh my, god that's very us, right this is,
awesome so this is an older. Story it's a new
post on. Unilad you know you AND i are on
unilad fourteen fifteen times a.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Day, YEAH i want a duo lad BECAUSE i love
it so. MUCH i want to two of.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Them it's written By Joe, yates who is the best
in the walking. Biz here we. Go you can send
your stories into The Bananas podcast at gmail dot com
or The Bananas podcast On. Instagram if you've never heard
our podcast, before this is the first. Time this is
how it. Goes if you've ever hiked a six hour,
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trail a, mountain or even a few flights of, stairs
you can begin to understand just how difficult it would
be to walk around the. World there are, dozens if not,
hundreds honestly, millions of ways to travel around the. World,
yeah and choosing to do so by foot surely has
to be the hardest. Way, well you, know crawling it's,
fine but tell that.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Rolling rushing a peanut with your, nose.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
That's the world. Record local idiot pushes. Peanut biden talk about.
Disintegrating oh that would be.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
So you know that guy did it right For upspike's.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Peak, YEAH i should talk about. HIM i remember, that
but around the world As, yeah that would be. Fun
it's a different cup of, beefstock a bit. Different but
tell that To Stephen, newman who did exactly. That he, Walked,
well this is a different. Measurement fifteen and nine miles
around the. World In april nineteen eighty, three he set
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off From, ohio you, know the crucible of this great
land on a dead center of. It they, say, yeah
it's it's a. Place it's definitely in the, middle on
a solo hike that would take him across twenty one
countries over four, years before finally returning home In april
nineteen eighty. Seven speaking To New York, Times i've heard of.
(37:42):
That i'm In New York. City everybody's reading it in every. Direction.
Yeah two years after completing his trek here.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
People, say what time is? It you go Through York times.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And they, go, hell, yeah the old gray. Lady and
then we slap each other with the paper a bunch
until our cabs come. Snort it's all, right you cause
you're gonna have to get used to it. Again for
so long us you got it used to carrying them
balled Up New York, times not rolled up balld up
and then you say what time is it and they
say It's New York, times and you just beat each
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other in the face and then you get in separate
cabs the crash into brick. WALLS i don't really like
walking that, much he. SAID i just KNEW i wanted some,
stories So i'm gonna go for a. Walk whoa for,
real THAT'S i, mean that's the Most. Ohio that's also
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before the. Internet, YES i literally just did it for the.
Stories like there.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Was no one was following his every until he did.
It no one wrote a story about this.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Guy it was a magical, time like travel influencers really
had a moment fifteen years, ago eighteen years. Ago now
you see travel, influencers and it's tough because we've seen. Everything,
yeah we've seen every, Trail we've seen every, Meal we've
Seen santorini so many. Times so you're, LIKE i just
(39:06):
simply do not need to see another twenty five year
old In. Santorini, Sorry Kitty.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Well you're gonna hate my new, Website.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Oh, Boy Santorini weenie dot. Com so how did it
all come? About great, Question Kurt, well he confessed in
a blog on his website that he had a dream
of walking around the world when he was a nine year.
Old it was his nine year old's excitable. Mind he,
wrote it was during one of those, times a Frequent
Southern ohio rainy, afternoons when my imagination was lost in
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a stack of Old National geographic. Magazines now okay without
kurty b AND i sounding four hundred and ninety thousand years.
Old National geographic used to be the most badass magazine
there was so cool it was. Unbelievable one it was,
Animals two it was different. Cultures three the photography was.
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Amazing for sometimes they had, boobs sometimes they had boom often,
Often and even In catholic school they Had national to
look at, It, yeah you and you would see An
amazonian tribe and they were all standing around a fire
and boobs were. Out and when you're in fourth grade
and you're in A catholic, school that's the tip of the.
(40:20):
Iceberg that's as good as it, gets.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
He.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Wrote though the covers of that dignified periodical may have
worn and faded at the, time the beauty of the
glossy photographs inside was still unmistakably very much. ALIVE i
knew then and there that SOMEDAY i had to visit
all those exotic lands and meet those smiling. FACES i
totally understand, this by the, Way oh, yeah it was the.
(40:46):
Best when my parents would go. Out my sister was
in high, SCHOOL i was still middle. School didn't have a,
car so they'd you, know go with their friends. WHATEVER i,
know this sounds. CRAZY i would get VHS's Of National
geographic hour longs that would be like, reptiles, yeah, sharks oh,
(41:07):
yeah AND i would just watch, those that's What i'll.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Have loves, Them olive loves.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
THEM i would watch him start to. FINISH i really
should have been a, zoologist but that was entertainment to.
Me and, then Weirdly James bond, movies which looking back
are comical for a ten year old to be, watching
where you, know he's just screwing every woman in, sight
and they're they're not. Good the new ones are, incredible
(41:33):
the oldest ones are. Incredible the middle ones are. Sloppy
joe's back in nineteen eighty, seven he explained To people
magazine why he embarked on the journey to discover whether
the world was really as bad as people painted, it
speaking of his, Motive he, said it was a great
curiosity to see that the common, people what the common
people of the world were. Like walking is the best
(41:55):
way because you have one on one with so many.
People we also so we hears so much about how
dangerous the world has. Become, yeah and how it's it's,
true and how it's falling apart, socially, morally. WHATEVER i
had this deep urge to find out if it was
really such terrible place as everybody was, SAYING i love this.
GUY i know it's really. Interesting so what was his?
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Verdict after completing His round The world, trek he concluded
everyone was totally. Wrong they were totally. Wrong newman Told
The New York times the world is a better place
than we give it credit. For there are more good
people than bad, people even in areas that are. Dangerous
although on his trek he did encounter some horrendous. Things
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according To people, Magazine newman said he was arrested four
times during his. Journey he was attacked twice by armed.
Bandits he was stoned by students In india who thought
he Was. ENGLISH i thought he was, yeah they thought
he was a Brit and he was beaten by a
drunken construction worker in The Australian Outback. Australia you have to,
(43:02):
think at least one Night i'm going to get beaten
up by a drunken construction. Worker That, yeah when you
come From, america you realize there's gonna be a shooting
and you're gonna have to run and. Hide you're In,
australia a Drunk australian construction worker is going for a, punch.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
And they'll warn you about, them but they just call
them drop. Bears they're gonna say look out for the drop.
Bears and that means a man who's had too many
pints at the LOCAL emu pub and is going to
come down and beat the living daylights out of.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
You and you just, say thank. YOU i Am american
AND i appreciate you teaching me this lesson about my.
Face he was also accosted by wild, boars bull, ants
one poisonous, snake, flees and a disgruntled. Bison newman published
a book about his travels Entitled World.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
WALK i would have workshop the title a little.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Bit, yeah that's. Right it could have been a journey
of fifteen nine hundred and fifty nine steps and you
go interesting or MILES i, guess.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Or like the stroll that took four, years you, know,
yeah something like.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
That touched by An. Australia it's pretty. COOL i feel
like a lot of people have probably tried to do.
THIS i have a buddy Named chip who is about
to drive a race From europe To. Mongolia it's like
The gumball three, thousand but it's like The. Monk it's
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called The mongol Something And, okay the whole point is
you have to have a cheap. Car you have to
have a car that's like under five thousand dollars because
you to break down in foreign countries and have to
figure out the next steps of.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
This oh that's, interesting especially if it's like everything on
your machine is imperial units and everything there is like metric. Units, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, yeah he bought a. CAR i can't. REMEMBER i
forget where it. STARTS i don't know if it starts
In london Or paris or one of the big one
of the Big european. Cities but, yeah you race all
the way Into russia and you're like, CRAZY i, know
but you, know maybe it's, Awesome LIKE i don't. Know
we are all taught to be afraid of each. Other
and it's very fascinating because, people you, know growing up
(45:19):
north Of, baltimore everybody's scared to death Of. Baltimore but
you can have these amazing. Times and then being In New. York,
now you And i've lived IN la. Forever New york
IN la are not in the top ten most dangerous
cities in The United, States and there are more people
here in those two cities than pretty much everywhere. Else,
Yeah phoenix not in the top.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Ten if you just Put New york IN la, TOGETHER
i think there's more people In New york AND la
than there aren't all Of.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Australia, YEAH i don't know how many people are In,
australia BUT i think There's New york's three IN la metropolitan.
Areas you put those, TOGETHER i bet it's about twenty
five million. Yea and walking around the city, Today New
York city is so safe it's. Preposterous it's. Act but
everybody's on their own. Mission like walking, around you just
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pass every type of. PERSON i don't even remember being single,
Here LIKE i obviously dated a lot. Here you dated
a lot. Here towards the, END i.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Just dated for one year AND i really there were no.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Apps we weren't on the apps because no apps like
the iPhone, existed but they there was No, tinder grinder,
home you, know no scruff whatever you're, into hinge. Bumble
there was farmer zony dot com and.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, yeah farmers only dot. Com that's.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
It any harmony and uh it was just a thing
where you're, like you walk around the city and you're,
LIKE i honestly don't know how anybody connects with anybody
in this city because everybody is it's nine million people
on their own. Mission, YES i didn't make actually one
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person day AND i walked sixteen thousand.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
STEPS i did DO i did the thing THAT i
THOUGHT i could never do pull, off which WAS i
just talked started like chatting somebody up on the. TRAIN
i like dated someone for a while just from chatting
them up on the, train WHICH i was like always
like is this? Possible is it a thing THAT i could?
(47:17):
Do and THEN i did. IT i was, like it's
a THING i could. Do and, also, weirdly we were
going to we lived on the exact same.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Stop that. Sucks isn't that? Crazy? Yeah, yeah you don't
want that In New YORK i would walk.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Past her, house especially after like she was, like don't
talk to me. ANYMORE i would walk past her house
every single.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Day you want long distance relationships, here you want to at
least five, stops maybe one train. Transfer it's just the
only way to.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Live, YEAH i think you gotta do thumbs up because.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
We're getting close to the.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
End we really just chatted our little dicks.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Off, well we haven't seen each other in a week or.
So it's nice to catch. Up Katie cameron is thumbing
up The Banana boys for being a motivating factor And
katie trying stand up comedy after ten years of SAYING
i want to try stand up. Comedy the way you
two dive in and go for anything silly and fun
is such a gift that it sparks a chain. Reaction
SO i wrote that chain reaction and tried stand up
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comedy for the first. Time thank you for inspiring. Me
and thumbs up to The Vermont Comedy club for being
such an awesome space to learn and be. Brave you've
probably played that club many.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
TIMES i love that.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Club we gotta do A bananas And. Vermont okael like
we got a dunk On New. Hampshire, yeah the whole,
time and we can't Give boston the piece Of, yeah
we can't Let boston win yet. Again, yes So Vermont Comedy,
club maybe we're coming for. You Aaron Lambert SIPE i
believe is doing a double thumbs. Up aaron and a
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friend decide to get jobs At Joeyanne fabrics for kicks
and giggles, because in her friend's, words we need something
to talk, about all, right and they got a thirty
percent employee. Discount aaron said she went into it thinking
it would, be you, know, interesting but a very low
stakes way to just take a silly. Job but she
was completely unprepared for the emotional investment people from every
(49:13):
walk of life have In joy And. Fabrics Now joy
And fabrics is, closing curt so rest and Peace joey And.
Fabrics but big thumbs up to me and my friend
for doing a banana silly job just for the stories
and ending up with weird retail experiences and so many heartfelt. Interactions,
yes that's a very funny thing to do just to
(49:35):
get a retail thing at like a dying fabrics. Chain.
Yeah also bring Back joy And fabrics Like giant billionaires
come back buy it and just let just make it not.
Profitable who? Cares just let care people sell for crying out.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Out michael's is our only.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Option now let moms and progressive dads sell their Children's halloween?
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Costumes where also is it everybody just gets it? Online?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
NOW i don't.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Understand Joanne fabrics was a, delight a delight to go inside.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Of it still smelled the. SAME i went to the
one In glendale not too long, ago and it was.
Wonderful they had birdhouse, Kits. Kurt they have everything we
got we.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Had we have one of those burdens.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
WHEN i gave your kids those melting Down halloween, ornaments
that was From Joeyann. Fabrics, yeah for the. Best, ALSO
i had very, Briefly i'll tell this. Story there there's
A target in the middle Of Los angeles AND i
wanted to go To. TARGET i parked on the roof
as you, do take the elevator Down hi and walk
(50:43):
in the. Store And i'm walking around This target And i'm, like,
Man target is really going for, Crafts like this is.
Nuts and then there are frames, everywhere every size frame
you can, imagine And i'm, like, damn target is really
get into the frame game in a strong. Way And
i'm looking around for the stuff any in a target
(51:04):
AND i can't find. Anything AND i walk up to
an associate AND i, Go, hey where's the? Whatever and she, goes,
oh this is A. Michaels the target's next. Door SO
i walked into A michaels that was directly next to
a target that did not know, that AND i just
thought it was a. Target And i'm, LIKE i got
all these. Frames my target is coming in. Hard shout
(51:29):
out To. MICHAELS i Think michaels is going to carry
the joy And fabrics flag their frames great framework frames
are the most overpriced.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Thing they're the most overpriced. Things is so.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Crazy frame is like seven thousand dollars and you could
just buy a frame for fourteen ninety. Nine you're, like
where's the magic happening between unrolling this? POSTER i?
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Know and then you're gonna come and it's like, choose
like do you want us to build the frame for?
You and it's, like, Well i've seen frames, already squares
do you have? Those, no we build the frame for.
You why why are you building these?
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Frames you definitely don't need to do. That go To.
Michael's it's next to, Market last but not least you
and be cretty be. Weird thumming Up Emily, riley who
saved a bunch Of bananas episodes to listen to during her.
Labor she gave birth and her Baby bananam is doing.
Great thank, you. Guys thumbs up to You Emily riley
(52:31):
for two friends that just get together and talk to each.
Other it's a it's a real honor that so many
of you have included us in such important parts of your.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Life AND i would say that that child Is banana
The week.
Speaker 2 (52:42):
Easily boy girl them they, Whatever that beautiful baby Is
banana baby of The. WEEK i know.
Speaker 1 (52:51):
What guess, What, Scottie i'm gonna. Say this is the first.
Episode we're just only doing two. Stories were a bunch
of Chatty.
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Cathy's we just swear catching. Up we hadn't seen each other.
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Your mind?
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Resilient pieces? Would you believe Bana Baby Bananas?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Guys, gals, non binary house, Welcome to Bananas. I'm speaking
to a Scottie Landis who does not seem to be
in his normal in his normal home right now.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I'm in the Life Hotel in Manhattan on thirty first Street.
I don't mind dosing myself because I leave tomorrow morning.
It's where Life magazine used to be head quartered. Nice.
The hallways are dingy, yep.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
The frame looks old.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
But the room is nice. So for those ban animals
traveling to New York City, if you want to stay
in Manhattan, you'll find yourself really taken care of at
the Life Hotel on thirty first between fifth and sixth
Gritty b. It's good to be back in the city.
New York in May is a very beautiful, oh place
to be. I walked sixteen thousand steps today, not even.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Try, not even trying.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And I don't know. I know you've been back a
few times since we've left, but have you been on
Broadway since we moved away? Broadway is all thank lanes now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yes, it's crazy, right.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I rode a city bike from thirty first Street all
the way down to pass the flat Iron building, so
I guess in West tenth or something, huh. And it
was so pleasant. I kept thinking that you and me
and all of us who would go to the pit
shows in Manhattan when we were starting out in comedy,
we would have ridden bikes home. I would say fifty
(02:15):
percent more because there's a one hundred eight shot through
the middle of the city now.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And also they're available everywhere like we moved before city
bikes existed.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yes, it's a you're gonna have a great time when
you're moving back east. You know. New York is just
the greatest city to visit when you know it. And
so I've just had two days of I'm here for work.
I pitched a movie, an animated movie yesterday morning. It
went great, and that's all I had to do. It
was like, all this travel for one hour, isn't it great?
(02:47):
I've been eating I'm staying in Koreatown. I've been eating
Korean food like crazy awesome. So shout out to all
the New Yorkers who have stuck it out because it
is so fun.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Oh dude, I'm excited. I'm going to buy because like
all my the backpacks I've had for the past I
think twelve years, have all been shwagged. They've just been
shwagged backpacks, backpacks that I've given by TV shows. Sure,
and I'm going to buy myself a nice backpack that's
(03:19):
incredibly comfortable and like very functional and cool looking. And
then I'm going to buy a bike helmet. I'm going
to keep the bike helmet in the backpack, and then
I'm going to ride the city. I'm going to ride
the goddamn wheels off a city bike.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Baby. Yeah, it's fun. Man. I didn't have a helmet today,
and I'm a huge wear a helmet proponent. This is
a very rare thing for me. But I'm just here
on vacation. And also the city bikes, I was not
going fast and I was not an electric bike. I
was cruising the drop bars what's considered a lady style frame,
so at any point I could put my feet on
the ground so easily. But I was astonished. Besides that,
(03:56):
how little had changed. I expected so much more change.
There's a bunch of skyscrapers for billionaires and other missholes.
But it felt I'm sure Brooklyn, where we where you
and I lived for a million years, Sure that's different.
But the city, man, I was riding by places, I
was like, I used to drink a barfly. I used
to drink at Molly's. I used to, Oh wow, I
(04:18):
used to. And I went to Vanessa's Dumplings, to.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Their beauty bars, still there on forty bars.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
On fourteenth it's still there. And now there's a coyote
ugly two doors down from it, which is embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Coyote. I can't believe it business still exists. I know
that seems like it would have faded out. It doesn't
seem like it's coyote uglies time anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, but I think there's a certain swath of straight
men who love to be humiliated. I think it's a
real thing for I think there's guys out there that
like to be humiliated. It's really you know that show
with John Wilson, that HBO show where he just walks
around films everybody and tells stories.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So funny.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
What I saw today you could have made four or
five episodes. Now I realized the strength of his show
is his ability to go back and find his own footage.
The ship I saw today walking around from nine am
until four pm. Like I it was as if I
was on a different planet, but like adorable stuff. Like
(05:23):
I saw a guy selling capybara stuffed animals and union
square that all have like little bonnets on, and he
was holding one, yelling into a FaceTime and.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Like an actual copy bera, no like stuffed ash stuff.
Oh stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
He was just like, what the fuck? And and I'm like,
while holding one, yeah, while holding one of the things
he's selling, and he has a table full of like small,
medium and large capy beras or capybaras with little bonnets on,
and he's just reaming somebody up. And I'm like, that
would have made the show.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
And you're gonna have That's amazing, man. I can't wait.
I'm excited to go. I just I'm excited for this
portion of it to be done. You know, Like if
you've noticed, I am in a different part of my
garage than I normally am. I'm usually in the back.
I had to pull like cause we're just like piling
(06:18):
up boxes in the garage. So I finally had to
pull all the boxes out, all the furniture that we've
put in the and take my desk out from the back.
And now I'm against the sidewalk, like right near the door,
and it's all everything. It's all just boxes now as
you see.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Oh good, I'm happy you think it's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I think you look cool.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So many hours of work, it's I it's it's insane.
I can't understand it. But also, what a much nicer
background this is. I got the love butt over my
left hand shoulder. We got some keep it dry towel
over the left I mean, like this like looks like
an actual office almost.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Yeah, sure does, Yeah, sure does. You'll be all right.
I think it's a are You're getting rid of tons
of stuff when you move, and you can get rid
of stuff. It is such a There should be a
game show that they go around to people who have
lived in a house for ten years and the competition
is they weigh all your stuff and then whoever can
(07:24):
get rid of the most stuff within twenty four hours wins.
Because you feel sometimes you have things in your life
and you're like, oh, I like, I have one right now.
When I was a young banana, my friend Steven Saint Amant,
who's this great artist, gifted me a desk and it's
(07:44):
from the Library of Congress. And it has this leaver.
It's got wheels, and you pull this lever and the
wheels drop down and you can roll the desk and
then you pull the lever the other way and the
feet of the desk lock in. And I wrote when
I was in Brooklyn, that was my desk. So the
first ten to fifteen screenplays and pilots I wrote, We're
at that desk. But the desk itself is just a
(08:05):
simple wooden desk. It's probably worth maybe fifty dollars, maybe
one hundred dollars. It's cool, and it does have a
thing a seal on the bottom of it says Library
of Congress's. And I still have it, and it's in
my garage and I have not used it. I never
used it at the cabin, so I haven't used it
in thirteen years.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Where the hell did you store it in the cabin.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I don't remember. I think I think it was in
my closet and I put like shoes and towels and stuff,
but I had sentimental value, but now it doesn't. And
so now I'm like, do I put it on offer up?
I don't have Facebook anymore, so it does. And then
I'm like, is this just a free item I put
on the corner with a sign that is free And
the answer is yes. Somebody will really enjoy it. Some
(08:47):
child will do their arithmetic on.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
One percent and also say, from the Library of Congress,
it does say it on it, write that on the
free thing, so that people know, well, people would totally
take that hunt.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It's so oh cool. But I just have no need
for in my life. And I don't know, it's been
in purgatory, right, It's been like you have all these
things in your life that are in possession purgatory, and
it's time to just flush the toilet and get them
out of there.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Oh man, I you know, I've been struggling with this
with these T shirts, Like I have one full drawer.
I have one full drawer of T shirts that I
have not worn in twelve years. Okay, but every time
I go through them to get rid of some of them,
(09:32):
I'm like, that's a pretty spec Like one of them
is the T shirt I got that doesn't fit me,
but I got it. It's the Arcade Fires first show
in New York City, opening for a band called The Unicorns,
who were I remember. I was a big fan of
the Unicorns. No one had ever heard of Arcade Fire
(09:54):
and it was the show at which I was interviewing
the Unicorns for a documentary, and so I interviewed everyone
an Arcade Fire. Wow, they're at their first show in NYC.
And I bought that shirt and it's like, so that's
shirts like a special shirt, but it doesn't fit me.
And it's not a great shirt. No, it's like poorly printed.
(10:19):
But it's all of the shirts are like that, like
they have a story behind them. They have and so
people are like, oh, you make a quilt out of it,
or oh you frame it or something like that, and
I'm just like, yeah, I don't necessarily need a quilt
of like Arcade Fire rocket from the crypt T shirt
and my Pavement T shirt, you know what I mean. Like,
(10:39):
so I just don't know what to do with it.
I kind of don't. I still kind of don't want
to get rid of it. But also I'm never going
to wear them again, and now they're.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Ever wear your big shirts. I used to love wearing
my dad's shirts when I was a kid, like a smock,
just like running around. I looked like Alvin and the Chipmunks.
Just like a shirt, like a dress. Even that Shaquille O'Neil,
extra extra, extra, extra large short. Yeah, I wore at
the Phoenix Show. It was like being a kid again,
where it was like wearing a dress.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
But yeah, yeah, it'll be It'll be quite a long
time before they can fit into a large adult large.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
You know, they're lucky they got big shoes to Phil
Papa six'.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
FOUR i. KNOW i hope we'll see the.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Taller we'll, see we'll see. Taller that's the. Thing you
just don't. Know you never.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Know you want to hear, This, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Tell me all about tell me all about.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
This at THE cia, sake THE cia secretly ran A
Star wars fan. Site this is a fascinating. STORY i
was so excited to find. THIS i just found it
On reddit and this is on four oh four media dot. Co,
yeah which IS i don't you. KNOW i have no
(11:49):
idea what this is. About BUT i had to sign
up for an account in order to fucking read, it
and it's.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
A spy so bad. Man LIKE i read all The
John lacy novels And i'm just like somebody walk up
to me and be like we need, you And i'm,
Like i'm. In you tell me who In hollywood do
you want me to spy?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
On John? Correy is he the guy who wrote that book.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Comes in from The Cold Tinker Taylor Soldier. Spy, no
it's a.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Guy he's like a culty like see like espionage fiction.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Writer.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yeah but one of his books THAT i read in
high school was all about The bosque. People do you
does that ring a bell at? All an old title
of the book was something t like literally are we
had to read it for?
Speaker 2 (12:35):
History no, kind not That i'm familiar. With but he's
wrote so many great. BOOKS A Perfect spy And The
Constant gardner both big ones of. His, yeah but he
He and also he wasn't even a spy for very,
long but his dad. Was he passed away in twenty.
Twenty and his memoir that he reads it's like The Pigeon,
(12:57):
TONNEL i believe it's Called it's so interesting, anyways like
they talk about espionage back in you know sort of
The Cold war era and, before and people would just
walk up to people and recruit. Them your spot you,
were you were for us. Now And i'm like walking
Around hollywood like sneaking. Around i'm like wearing a black
(13:20):
trench coat and like just looking around. CORNERS i bet
you they're never looking at L. A it's it's probably.
Somebody it's probably Like Denzel. Washington they probably have somebody
that's so high up and beloved and he's just got
dirt on.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Everybody so this was, This this literally just came out
on the four oh four AS i call. It this
was written By Joseph, Cox Joey cox babys in The
joey coxbi uh quote like these, games you will the
quote next to a cartoon image If yoda says on
(13:57):
the website Star wars Web. Dot those games Include Star
Wars battlefront two For, Xbox Star Wars The Force Force
unleashed two For xbox three, sixty And Star Wars The
Clone Wars Republic heroes For. Nintendo We next to that
are links to A Star wars online store and the
tagline so you want to be A, jedi and an
(14:17):
advertisement for a Lego Star wars. Set the site looks
like an Ordinary Star wars fan website from around twenty,
ten But star warsweb dot net was actually a tool
built by The Central Intelligence agency to covertly communicate with
its informants in other. Countries according to an amateur security,
researcher the site was part of A cia network OF
(14:39):
cia sites that were first discovered By iranian authorities more
than ten years. Ago Zero, santilli the, researcher said he
was drawn to investigating the network OF cia sites for various.
Reasons blah blah. Blah santilli found OTHER cia link, sites
such as a comedian fan, site one about extreme, sports
(15:02):
and A brazilian music. One in his own write, Up
santillia says that some of the sites appear to have Targeted, Germany,
France spain And, brazil judging by their language and their.
Content he says it reveals a much larger number of.
Websites it gives a broader understanding of the CIA's interest
at the, time including more specific democracies which may have
been targeted which were not previously. Mentioned it goes on and.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
On so it's a communication. Platform they Were.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah so you would go to like star warsweb dot net,
unbelievable and then enter into like star warsweb dot net
slash user like blank slash, password and then that would
come up with a chat box that would be a
chat box directly to THE.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Cia.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Wow, Cool and So sentilli's right up goes into an
extensive detail on how he uncovered the Star wars and other,
sites and includes all manners of things like digging through
a massive historic domain names and the SITE'S html and
using a small army of tour bots to bypass the
wayback MACHINE'S ip. Throttling he said he did all this
(16:09):
without paying for any data and instead used freely available
online tools for his slew thing like this is a
guy who just like wants to know what THE cia was,
doing and it.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Makes sense you would start with. It that guy would
probably looking at the Star wars website being, Like i'm
not familiar with. This, Yeah i'm reading this. Code this
doesn't seem Like Star wars. Code and then only somebody
that was a fan of both things would solve. This,
yeah if it was up to you and, Me i'd be,
Like i'm On clownpenis dot, fart AND i still think
this is the legitimate.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Website Zach, edwards an independent cybersecurity, researcher told four h
four media the recent efforts to uncover the WEBSITE'S cia
used to communicate with their spies all over the world
aligns with WHAT i understood about this network were now
about fifteen years past when these websites were being actively,
Used yet new information continues to trip out year after.
(17:02):
Year the simplest way to put it, is, yes THE
cia absolutely had A Star wars fan website with a
secretly embedded communication. Systems and WHILE i can't account for
everything included in the research From, cyro his findings do
seem very. Sound this whole episode is a reminder that
developers make, mistakes and sometimes it takes years for someone
to find those. Mistakes but this is also not just
(17:23):
your average developer mistake type of. Scenario so do you
remember WHERE i said of a comedian's website was also
used by THE? Cia?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, who, Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
CHRISTOPHERITIS i went TO i went to this dude's original
thing that he published because he just like published this
on his website which is called Our Big book dot.
Com uh good, title and it's called twenty Ten Covert communications,
websites and he goes all into all of this shit
(17:58):
of how he figured it out and what he, used
and then he set up this database that people could
add to if they wanted to use more of his.
Dude it's hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of. Sites,
YEAH i, mean and they just all have normal sounding,
(18:18):
names you, know The internationalworld dot, com The, World dashnews dot,
Net Cityworld news. Now but here's SO i. WAS i
was like, immediately, LIKE i gotta find out who's, what
what comedian what? Comedian and so you. Can they're all organized.
Here it says it's it's this is what it. IS
(18:41):
i just found. It it's web Of cheer dot com
has an unarchived members only section pointing to web Of
cheer dot com slash member dot html copyright two thousand and.
Five Features Johnny, Carson Charles, Chaplin Rowans, atkins The Three,
stooges and some Other American americans no one knows about.
(19:04):
Anymore there must have been a Massive Johnny carson amongst
THE cia contractors at that. Time given All johnny dot,
com it was All johnny dot.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
COM i would never google, That so that makes a
lot of. Sense yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
RIGHT i would never be, like, what what's everything About Johnny?
CARSON i want to see some Old Johnny carson jokes right?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Now MAYBE i would, ACTUALLY i just like When Rodny
dangerfield was on. There yeah it's a fan.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Site, yeah it's rosta Star, wars, webbotnet, All johnny Dot
com And web Of.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
CHEER i want to hear the craziest story THAT i
have to say, this So i'm Gonna i'll just say.
It i'll, Say, Okay i'm not going to use any. Names,
okay this is a Very hollywood. Story, yeah it's also very.
SO i was writing this movie for an actor who's
A i would not say AN a list, actor but
(20:05):
a very beloved. ACTOR i was writing this in twenty
sixteen or twenty, seventeen and It's i've never made A
tv show or a movie with this, person so nobody
CAN IMDb Who i'm talking about and find a connection to.
Me that's the only Reason i'm telling. This, YES i
don't Think i'm actually gonna get in trouble for. This
but he AND i started hanging out. More we were
(20:26):
talking about this idea and we were writing, more and he,
said do you know this other, actor AND i, didn't
But i'm aware of this, person and that person was
very very high in. Scientology, okay like not A Tom cruise,
level but a known person who is a. Scientologist Got
and so the Guy i'm writing with, GOES i was
(20:47):
over at this huge house party at this guy's, house
at this actor's, house and we're all. Drinking you, know
people are doing. Drugs everybody's blowing some, railshere maybe a,
couple maybe a couple of rails are going on. There
all Aboard, amtrak all Aboard. America.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
HALLOWE i, Mean hollywood does like, cocaine.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Folks it's the. Truth they got guys that make. It
in your. House we have. Chemists As i've mentioned some
of the live, Shows i've met people who are, like,
oh this is Blankety blank's. Chemist dude gives him his
molly and you're, like well that's. Good so he. Goes
so this crazy thing happened to, me and it was
(21:29):
like down to like the last five or six. People
everybody's a famous. Person everybody's hanging out in this huge.
House and he pulls the Actor i'm working with us
side and, GOES i want to show you. Something and
he goes, okay and they go out to the pool.
House and in the poolhouse he rolls this actor rolls
up a rug and he lifts a trap. Door, oh
(21:51):
and there's like a secret hidden like spiral staircase to
a wine cellar type of, thing and in it that
actor had scroll platinum platinum metal scrolls of all of
the history of. Scientology and apparently you have to be
really high level to have those scrolls and. Scrolls, yeah
(22:17):
because it was.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
All like made up in like nineteen fifty eight or.
Whatever they're just, like all, right let's make. It let's
make it scrolls so it looks like it's two thousand years.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Old, yeah McDonald's existed at the same. Time he could
get a quarter pound or with cheese at the same.
Time but this was, happening and they were, like you
get these as like an honor and it's a, secret
and then you only have them for like six months
to a, year and then you have to give them
back and then they secretly get them to somebody. Else
but this guy couldn't even. Resist he had to. Show
(22:50):
of course she's coked.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Up he's so coked. Up he's just LIKE i got
it to like just think about. It he's, like, sweaty
it's five. Am just like he's just like and just
like talking to my. Element he's, like come on, down,
man come on in. Here oh my. God it's like
being at the worst drug dealer's.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
House do you know WHAT i?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Mean that's, like, oh come, here let me show you my.
Iguana oh, man how long DO i have to stay?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Here i'd rather see an.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Iguana i'd rather see an.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Iguana that's the, thing is. Like and so we were
laughing because it's, like if you're not a believer in,
scientology then it's it's a good, story but it's not.
Interesting like if somebody's like this Was jesus's crown Of,
THORNS i was gifted this by the Modern night's, templar
you'd be, like, really.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Even if someone did, that you would be, like, no
it's not that. DISINTEGRATED a long time, ago someone sold
you a bill of goods that is a.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Lie it'd be cool if in that same, situation like
you're at a very very famous and powerful person's house
and then let me show you. Something they roll up
their rug in their, poolhouse you go, downstairs they show you.
Something what if it was like The Mona lisa and they're,
like this is the Real Mona. Lisa the one that's
in the loof is a. Fake this is the real.
ONE i was gifted it by you know whoever Billionaire
(24:13):
and it's like and they would never put the real
one like he. Was we were just cracking up because
it felt to the scientologist actor to be a, major major.
Deal like it was, like can you Believe i'm at
the level WHERE i am holding the platinum scrolls that
you for six?
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Months of, course, right it's like you've been sucked in
to believe that all of these made up things are
really are infused with so much.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Power mm. Hmm it's so.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Great and also what's the fucking weirdest part is like
on the level of religion's actually accomplishing. Miracles sure some
of these people who are scientologists having careers that it's
actually like the most miracle that of religion is ever like,
done do you know WHAT i? Mean like you're actually, like,
(25:06):
wow look at that this person has fame and money
and they're not very talented and it's because they are
in this. Church that's.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
CRAZY i am. Sure we have scientologists been. Animals it's
in there are so many people we of course we
have too many listeners not to Have some people are.
Scientologists and then you just make the same argument where you,
go is anything they're saying crazier than what all the
other ones are. Saying, no they're not in my. HOMETOWN
(25:37):
i think they.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
ARE i think they. Are oh, YEAH i do think it's.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Great, yeah, no, no, no they're all equally. Absurd, okay
you can say, That BUT i don't. KNOW i don't.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Know maybe it's maybe it's my bias because they're, older
you know WHAT i. Mean maybe it's the fact that it's, like, oh,
yeah well you know they're raising. Dad, yeah it's like
five thousand years. Old so, yeah they got they got
an elephant with they got a man with an elephant's.
Head oh that's that. Shit five thousand years ago.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Was, cool it was, easy, ip okay with all of. It,
Like i'm at the point in my. LIFE i was
out with my Buddy bryce last night after we just
had a couple of drinks and we were just talking
about how now we are at the point where we
just go yes to. Everything like when you're, young you're
so you're like you have hard, opinions you shut everything.
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Down you're, LIKE i, know and it's about. Everything it's
about things you don't even care. About LIKE i like hip.
HOP i THINK i love. Rap it's, Great but there
was a time in my life WHERE i would be,
LIKE i need to know who the best rappers, are
what their best verse on their best song that's not
their most. Popular thing is so that If i'm ever
cornered AND i have to say who my and then you, like,
now if somebody's, like who's your favorite? RAPPER i would be,
(26:54):
LIKE i don't, Know, uh probably a commercial About charman or.
Something you just get to the.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Point he's a, bear he's got a little bit of
shit on his, ass and he's rapping about.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
It, yeah toilet paper in. Skyscraper that rhymes to.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
ME i hear what you're. Saying BUT i do.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
THINK i.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
THINK i think scientology is like very it has things
to damage, people you. KNOW i think there's ALL i.
KNOW i don't. Know, yeah when.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
We moved out in twenty twelve twenty, thirteen you had
to watch what you were saying at like dinner, parties
and there were a lot more back.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Then oh, yeah there was a lot more back. Then
i've never shut up about criticizing. It but also i've you,
KNOW i haven't worked it a.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
While, yeah that's MAYBE i know your. Solution you're, RIGHT
dB is about to. Explode pretty pretty. Bizarro but, yeah
it is interesting because it's, there it's around the all
the major. Campuses there's a huge. One they're so right
In Los. Angeles the blue one is. Massive and Then
safie is one of the best restaurants IN la is
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directly across the. Street so you just said it.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Before i've said it, before BUT i will tell this
story again BECAUSE i love it so very very. Much
we were getting ice cream With olive And gus at
this place next TO, Ucb and as we get the ice,
cream we come, out we're walking and that just happens
to be directly across the street from a gigantic scientology
center building In. Hollywood, yeah And olive just looks at.
(28:28):
It she loves, science so she just looks at it
and reads the name of, it AND i watch her
little eyes go and then she, Goes, legitimately this is
an exact, quote, well, well, well looks Like i've found
the church for. Me AND i was, like, no, no, no,
no oh, no, no, sweetie it's not about.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Science, yeah turn, around push her into THE.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Ucb yes and, yes and this is where we actually
got THE ucb.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Here NOW i saw it WAS i think on twenty Third.
Street maybe it's it's near The Beauty. Bull oh, yeah
so maybe that's. Fourteenth that's. Fourteenth, yeah so maybe it's on.
Fourteenth BUT i did see. It, no a bunch of
delivery guys hanging out outside of. It i'm, like, man
there you. Go, yeah it was so. FUNNY i if
somebody like took me down the experience of somebody showing
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me and revealing something like that would be the story to.
Me like seeing the thing would have. Zero like you
said in, iguana if a drug dealers, like do you
want to see? Maguana want, Strawberries i'm, like more than life,
itself that fascinates me that it would take a. Lot
it would. Take i'm trying to think of what would
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really like blow my. Mind WHEN i was In New,
york there was this like auction websites are popping, up
AND i remember there was one that was selling all
Of Jeffrey dahmer's apartment, stuff and somebody a friend of
Ours carl his friend bought the receipt for the refrigerator
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that they had bought the refrigerator For Jeffrey dahmer's apartment
ruth keeping, victims and so that guy has the receipt
signed From Jeffrey. Dahmer AND i was, like that's, morbid, Man,
like that's a weird thing to.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Have like, ALSO i find That and it is a
thing that it has been revealed to me over the,
ages is THAT i DON'T i do not imbue physical.
Items me, too with. Importance me. Too And i've.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Tried i've TRIED t shirts. Though that's why you gotta
get RAISED t. Shirts, Man yeah it is THE t.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Shirts but, YEAH i guess THE t, shirts THE t
shirts are the only.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Ones the music. Connection music is a really big thing
of your younger. Life AND, i you, know we've been
friends a long. Time but AND i really, RESPECTED i
honor it a lot BECAUSE i didn't have that growing.
Up BUT i think for you they're like cultural not,
cultural they are touchstones in your life where're, like this
is WHO i was at this point and this band
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mattered to.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Me oh, yeah, yeah, yeah one hundred. Percent and it
is interesting how much like the importance has. Slid But
i'm also very excited about going back to The East
coast and going to see a whole lot of live
music with my old. Friends you, know you're gonna have
a great.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Time you're gonna Be my.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Friend damien just goes To he went to twenty five
shows in twenty twenty, four like that. Was that's a
show every two. Weeks he just. Goes he just buys
tickets and he. Goes he goes by. Himself and now
he's going to have a little guy named me standing
right next to him.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Block an hour. Ago, no but SO i apologize for
cutting you off BECAUSE i. AGREE i don't put meaning
on physical items outside of that at, all where, yeah you,
know people pass something around or, whatever and, no this
is a. Thing this is a sacred. Thing, oh this
is a special. Thing And i'm like not to, me, Man.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah it's JUST I i often feel bad about donating
something or getting rid of it Because i'm, like this
should have significance for. Me, yeah AND i just would
prefer that it not be in my.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
SPACE i like signed. Things i'm glad autographs are sort
of still. EXISTENT i think selfies with people are laying
BUT i do think like IF i have a couple signed.
BOOKS i have A Mary roach signed Books. Becuzz when
she did our, podcast she was Promoting, fuzz AND i
have a signed copy Of Mary Roach's, fuzz AND i like.
That i'd like signatures of. WRITERS i like signatures of.
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ARTISTS i like the connection of we were in the
same space and time at the same. Time but other
stuff like you'll never see. ME i don't even like.
Antiques WHEN i go to like antique, Store i'm, like
this is also, Neat, like oh, cool this is how
they use the store. Matches yeah. COOL i have NO
i don't, know LIKE i would never buy memorabilia from
a war or something.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
INSANE i do kind of have one dorky physical item
THAT i do put some importance on and you can
almost see it. Here i'll lift it up. There it
is right. There so it is.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Just a little.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Visine it is a it's THE q card that that
was my show from The Tonight. SHOW i think the
first TIME i did The Tonight. Show and, yeah it
was the first TIME i did The Tonight show and
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my mom was in the audience and it was her,
birthday and so they had written roused about like Watch
Roused about This fall and then we'll be right back
with More Tonight show Like Kurt, brown older ladies and.
Gentlemen and then the way they do it if you
ask for a change after they've already written the, cards
they just take white tape and they put white tape over.
(33:55):
It so there's white tape over like tune into roused
about This, fall and they just wrote Happy, Birthday, mom
and so it's like it's all the, things do you
know WHAT i, mean it's like a big thing in
my career of doing The Tonight. Show it's it's the
fact that my mom is dead and it was her
birthday AND i got to do that for her on her.
Birthday and also there's roused about underneath, it which just
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makes it a little bit different than a normal cue.
Card so look at.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
That that's. Different THAT'S i, say all that shit on,
it that's, yeah yeah you created. That that's part of your.
Performance that cue card is part of your. Art, yeah
what an incredible. Thing she got to see, That.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
MIKE i, KNOW i was, like IT'S i almost have
to look at it to remind myself that it, happened you,
KNOW i.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Do, YEAH I I i went back and Watched The
Penelope princess Of pets and roused about years, ago probably twenty,
twenty because when we were all just bored and was watching,
anything and your mom is in a couple episodes AND.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I, feel, god, yeah she had that. INTRO i burst into.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
TEARS i burst into tears WHEN i saw her in
The Little Toy, god That Little Toy. House and this
is the story About.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Grabbin she hated doing it so. Much it was so
funny how cranky she was about doing. It is that?
ENOUGH i hate?
Speaker 2 (35:11):
This, no she was the. Best and then also when
she called you un roused about and it's, like, well
what Does scotty? Think take close To. Scotty she just
KNEW i was going to make sure you didn't. Die
it was a very lovely. Moment. Yeah here's one From JUSTIN. J. T.
McCormack he sent this in and this is very bananas
coded as nobody says. Anymore man who walked fifteen, thousand
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five hundred and four miles around the world to find
out if the world is a terrible place finally reveals his.
Verdict oh my, god that's very us, right this is,
awesome so this is an older. Story it's a new
post on. Unilad you know you AND i are on
unilad fourteen fifteen times a.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Day, YEAH i want a duo lad BECAUSE i love
it so. MUCH i want to two of.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Them it's written By Joe, yates who is the best
in the walking. Biz here we. Go you can send
your stories into The Bananas podcast at gmail dot com
or The Bananas podcast On. Instagram if you've never heard
our podcast, before this is the first. Time this is
how it. Goes if you've ever hiked a six hour,
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trail a, mountain or even a few flights of, stairs
you can begin to understand just how difficult it would
be to walk around the. World there are, dozens if not,
hundreds honestly, millions of ways to travel around the. World,
yeah and choosing to do so by foot surely has
to be the hardest. Way, well you, know crawling it's,
fine but tell that.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Rolling rushing a peanut with your, nose.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
That's the world. Record local idiot pushes. Peanut biden talk about.
Disintegrating oh that would be.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
So you know that guy did it right For upspike's.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Peak, YEAH i should talk about. HIM i remember, that
but around the world As, yeah that would be. Fun
it's a different cup of, beefstock a bit. Different but
tell that To Stephen, newman who did exactly. That he, Walked,
well this is a different. Measurement fifteen and nine miles
around the. World In april nineteen eighty, three he set
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off From, ohio you, know the crucible of this great
land on a dead center of. It they, say, yeah
it's it's a. Place it's definitely in the, middle on
a solo hike that would take him across twenty one
countries over four, years before finally returning home In april
nineteen eighty. Seven speaking To New York, Times i've heard of.
(37:42):
That i'm In New York. City everybody's reading it in every. Direction.
Yeah two years after completing his trek here.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
People, say what time is? It you go Through York times.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
And they, go, hell, yeah the old gray. Lady and
then we slap each other with the paper a bunch
until our cabs come. Snort it's all, right you cause
you're gonna have to get used to it. Again for
so long us you got it used to carrying them
balled Up New York, times not rolled up balld up
and then you say what time is it and they
say It's New York, times and you just beat each
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other in the face and then you get in separate
cabs the crash into brick. WALLS i don't really like
walking that, much he. SAID i just KNEW i wanted some,
stories So i'm gonna go for a. Walk whoa for,
real THAT'S i, mean that's the Most. Ohio that's also
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before the. Internet, YES i literally just did it for the.
Stories like there.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Was no one was following his every until he did.
It no one wrote a story about this.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
Guy it was a magical, time like travel influencers really
had a moment fifteen years, ago eighteen years. Ago now
you see travel, influencers and it's tough because we've seen. Everything,
yeah we've seen every, Trail we've seen every, Meal we've
Seen santorini so many. Times so you're, LIKE i just
(39:06):
simply do not need to see another twenty five year
old In. Santorini, Sorry Kitty.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Well you're gonna hate my new, Website.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Oh, Boy Santorini weenie dot. Com so how did it
all come? About great, Question Kurt, well he confessed in
a blog on his website that he had a dream
of walking around the world when he was a nine year.
Old it was his nine year old's excitable. Mind he,
wrote it was during one of those, times a Frequent
Southern ohio rainy, afternoons when my imagination was lost in
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a stack of Old National geographic. Magazines now okay without
kurty b AND i sounding four hundred and ninety thousand years.
Old National geographic used to be the most badass magazine
there was so cool it was. Unbelievable one it was,
Animals two it was different. Cultures three the photography was.
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Amazing for sometimes they had, boobs sometimes they had boom often,
Often and even In catholic school they Had national to
look at, It, yeah you and you would see An
amazonian tribe and they were all standing around a fire
and boobs were. Out and when you're in fourth grade
and you're in A catholic, school that's the tip of the.
(40:20):
Iceberg that's as good as it, gets.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
He.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Wrote though the covers of that dignified periodical may have
worn and faded at the, time the beauty of the
glossy photographs inside was still unmistakably very much. ALIVE i
knew then and there that SOMEDAY i had to visit
all those exotic lands and meet those smiling. FACES i
totally understand, this by the, Way oh, yeah it was the.
(40:46):
Best when my parents would go. Out my sister was
in high, SCHOOL i was still middle. School didn't have a,
car so they'd you, know go with their friends. WHATEVER i,
know this sounds. CRAZY i would get VHS's Of National
geographic hour longs that would be like, reptiles, yeah, sharks oh,
(41:07):
yeah AND i would just watch, those that's What i'll.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Have loves, Them olive loves.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
THEM i would watch him start to. FINISH i really
should have been a, zoologist but that was entertainment to.
Me and, then Weirdly James bond, movies which looking back
are comical for a ten year old to be, watching
where you, know he's just screwing every woman in, sight
and they're they're not. Good the new ones are, incredible
(41:33):
the oldest ones are. Incredible the middle ones are. Sloppy
joe's back in nineteen eighty, seven he explained To people
magazine why he embarked on the journey to discover whether
the world was really as bad as people painted, it
speaking of his, Motive he, said it was a great
curiosity to see that the common, people what the common
people of the world were. Like walking is the best
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way because you have one on one with so many.
People we also so we hears so much about how
dangerous the world has. Become, yeah and how it's it's,
true and how it's falling apart, socially, morally. WHATEVER i
had this deep urge to find out if it was
really such terrible place as everybody was, SAYING i love this.
GUY i know it's really. Interesting so what was his?
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Verdict after completing His round The world, trek he concluded
everyone was totally. Wrong they were totally. Wrong newman Told
The New York times the world is a better place
than we give it credit. For there are more good
people than bad, people even in areas that are. Dangerous
although on his trek he did encounter some horrendous. Things
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according To people, Magazine newman said he was arrested four
times during his. Journey he was attacked twice by armed.
Bandits he was stoned by students In india who thought
he Was. ENGLISH i thought he was, yeah they thought
he was a Brit and he was beaten by a
drunken construction worker in The Australian Outback. Australia you have to,
(43:02):
think at least one Night i'm going to get beaten
up by a drunken construction. Worker That, yeah when you
come From, america you realize there's gonna be a shooting
and you're gonna have to run and. Hide you're In,
australia a Drunk australian construction worker is going for a, punch.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
And they'll warn you about, them but they just call
them drop. Bears they're gonna say look out for the drop.
Bears and that means a man who's had too many
pints at the LOCAL emu pub and is going to
come down and beat the living daylights out of.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
You and you just, say thank. YOU i Am american
AND i appreciate you teaching me this lesson about my.
Face he was also accosted by wild, boars bull, ants
one poisonous, snake, flees and a disgruntled. Bison newman published
a book about his travels Entitled World.
Speaker 1 (43:51):
WALK i would have workshop the title a little.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Bit, yeah that's. Right it could have been a journey
of fifteen nine hundred and fifty nine steps and you
go interesting or MILES i, guess.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Or like the stroll that took four, years you, know,
yeah something like.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
That touched by An. Australia it's pretty. COOL i feel
like a lot of people have probably tried to do.
THIS i have a buddy Named chip who is about
to drive a race From europe To. Mongolia it's like
The gumball three, thousand but it's like The. Monk it's
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called The mongol Something And, okay the whole point is
you have to have a cheap. Car you have to
have a car that's like under five thousand dollars because
you to break down in foreign countries and have to
figure out the next steps of.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
This oh that's, interesting especially if it's like everything on
your machine is imperial units and everything there is like metric. Units, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, yeah he bought a. CAR i can't. REMEMBER i
forget where it. STARTS i don't know if it starts
In london Or paris or one of the big one
of the Big european. Cities but, yeah you race all
the way Into russia and you're like, CRAZY i, know
but you, know maybe it's, Awesome LIKE i don't. Know
we are all taught to be afraid of each. Other
and it's very fascinating because, people you, know growing up
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north Of, baltimore everybody's scared to death Of. Baltimore but
you can have these amazing. Times and then being In New. York,
now you And i've lived IN la. Forever New york
IN la are not in the top ten most dangerous
cities in The United, States and there are more people
here in those two cities than pretty much everywhere. Else,
Yeah phoenix not in the top.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
Ten if you just Put New york IN la, TOGETHER
i think there's more people In New york AND la
than there aren't all Of.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
Australia, YEAH i don't know how many people are In,
australia BUT i think There's New york's three IN la metropolitan.
Areas you put those, TOGETHER i bet it's about twenty
five million. Yea and walking around the city, Today New
York city is so safe it's. Preposterous it's. Act but
everybody's on their own. Mission like walking, around you just
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pass every type of. PERSON i don't even remember being single,
Here LIKE i obviously dated a lot. Here you dated
a lot. Here towards the, END i.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Just dated for one year AND i really there were no.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
Apps we weren't on the apps because no apps like
the iPhone, existed but they there was No, tinder grinder,
home you, know no scruff whatever you're, into hinge. Bumble
there was farmer zony dot com and.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, yeah farmers only dot. Com that's.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
It any harmony and uh it was just a thing
where you're, like you walk around the city and you're,
LIKE i honestly don't know how anybody connects with anybody
in this city because everybody is it's nine million people
on their own. Mission, YES i didn't make actually one
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person day AND i walked sixteen thousand.
Speaker 1 (46:56):
STEPS i did DO i did the thing THAT i
THOUGHT i could never do pull, off which WAS i
just talked started like chatting somebody up on the. TRAIN
i like dated someone for a while just from chatting
them up on the, train WHICH i was like always
like is this? Possible is it a thing THAT i could?
(47:17):
Do and THEN i did. IT i was, like it's
a THING i could. Do and, also, weirdly we were
going to we lived on the exact same.
Speaker 2 (47:24):
Stop that. Sucks isn't that? Crazy? Yeah, yeah you don't
want that In New YORK i would walk.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
Past her, house especially after like she was, like don't
talk to me. ANYMORE i would walk past her house
every single.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Day you want long distance relationships, here you want to at
least five, stops maybe one train. Transfer it's just the
only way to.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Live, YEAH i think you gotta do thumbs up because.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
We're getting close to the.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
End we really just chatted our little dicks.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
Off, well we haven't seen each other in a week or.
So it's nice to catch. Up Katie cameron is thumbing
up The Banana boys for being a motivating factor And
katie trying stand up comedy after ten years of SAYING
i want to try stand up. Comedy the way you
two dive in and go for anything silly and fun
is such a gift that it sparks a chain. Reaction
SO i wrote that chain reaction and tried stand up
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comedy for the first. Time thank you for inspiring. Me
and thumbs up to The Vermont Comedy club for being
such an awesome space to learn and be. Brave you've
probably played that club many.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
TIMES i love that.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Club we gotta do A bananas And. Vermont okael like
we got a dunk On New. Hampshire, yeah the whole,
time and we can't Give boston the piece Of, yeah
we can't Let boston win yet. Again, yes So Vermont Comedy,
club maybe we're coming for. You Aaron Lambert SIPE i
believe is doing a double thumbs. Up aaron and a
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friend decide to get jobs At Joeyanne fabrics for kicks
and giggles, because in her friend's, words we need something
to talk, about all, right and they got a thirty
percent employee. Discount aaron said she went into it thinking
it would, be you, know, interesting but a very low
stakes way to just take a silly. Job but she
was completely unprepared for the emotional investment people from every
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walk of life have In joy And. Fabrics Now joy
And fabrics is, closing curt so rest and Peace joey And.
Fabrics but big thumbs up to me and my friend
for doing a banana silly job just for the stories
and ending up with weird retail experiences and so many heartfelt. Interactions,
yes that's a very funny thing to do just to
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get a retail thing at like a dying fabrics. Chain.
Yeah also bring Back joy And fabrics Like giant billionaires
come back buy it and just let just make it not.
Profitable who? Cares just let care people sell for crying out.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
Out michael's is our only.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
Option now let moms and progressive dads sell their Children's halloween?
Speaker 1 (50:02):
Costumes where also is it everybody just gets it? Online?
Speaker 2 (50:07):
NOW i don't.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Understand Joanne fabrics was a, delight a delight to go inside.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Of it still smelled the. SAME i went to the
one In glendale not too long, ago and it was.
Wonderful they had birdhouse, Kits. Kurt they have everything we
got we.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Had we have one of those burdens.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
WHEN i gave your kids those melting Down halloween, ornaments
that was From Joeyann. Fabrics, yeah for the. Best, ALSO
i had very, Briefly i'll tell this. Story there there's
A target in the middle Of Los angeles AND i
wanted to go To. TARGET i parked on the roof
as you, do take the elevator Down hi and walk
(50:43):
in the. Store And i'm walking around This target And i'm, like,
Man target is really going for, Crafts like this is.
Nuts and then there are frames, everywhere every size frame
you can, imagine And i'm, like, damn target is really
get into the frame game in a strong. Way And
i'm looking around for the stuff any in a target
(51:04):
AND i can't find. Anything AND i walk up to
an associate AND i, Go, hey where's the? Whatever and she, goes,
oh this is A. Michaels the target's next. Door SO
i walked into A michaels that was directly next to
a target that did not know, that AND i just
thought it was a. Target And i'm, LIKE i got
all these. Frames my target is coming in. Hard shout
(51:29):
out To. MICHAELS i Think michaels is going to carry
the joy And fabrics flag their frames great framework frames
are the most overpriced.
Speaker 1 (51:38):
Thing they're the most overpriced. Things is so.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Crazy frame is like seven thousand dollars and you could
just buy a frame for fourteen ninety. Nine you're, like
where's the magic happening between unrolling this? POSTER i?
Speaker 1 (51:55):
Know and then you're gonna come and it's like, choose
like do you want us to build the frame for?
You and it's, like, Well i've seen frames, already squares
do you have? Those, no we build the frame for.
You why why are you building these?
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Frames you definitely don't need to do. That go To.
Michael's it's next to, Market last but not least you
and be cretty be. Weird thumming Up Emily, riley who
saved a bunch Of bananas episodes to listen to during her.
Labor she gave birth and her Baby bananam is doing.
Great thank, you. Guys thumbs up to You Emily riley
(52:31):
for two friends that just get together and talk to each.
Other it's a it's a real honor that so many
of you have included us in such important parts of your.
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