March 27, 2025 • 40 mins
Iconic actress / businesswoman / author Denise Richards and her fabulous daughter Lola Sheen join Heather to talk about their new Bravo series Denise Richards & Her Wild Things!!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Let's talk with how they dubro starts now today. Oh
I'm so excited. This is so cute. Denise Richards is
here with their daughter, Lola. They are the stars of Bravos,
Denise Richards and her wild Things. Of course everyone knows Denise.
She's an actress, a businesswoman, New York Times best selling author,
and her incredible daughter is here and this is so
(00:25):
so fun. Please welcome Denise and Lola.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh my gosh, it's so good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
First of all, do you remember how we met?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I don't remember the very first time, but I've seen
you so many times.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I know I do remember because I have this thing
and I've been talking about this for years. But it's
so funny, like I will see someone who's famous, right,
and I will pause and think, like do I know them?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Have I worked with them more?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Or do I not just know them because like they're famous.
Like I remember one time I was at Fred Siegel
and Daphanie Zuonago was there.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Do you know Jephany?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And so I turned around and I was like, oh,
it's Dephanie Sinega and.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I just paused and she looked at me. She's like
Heather I'm like.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh good, I've done that before.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay. So you and I were at an audition okay,
I was.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
On Housewives, this is before you did Okay, and we
were in a waiting room. I don't even remember what
we were auditioning for. I just remember you started talking
to me, and I thought, okay, we know each other.
And then I realized we didn't know each other. This
is like years ago. And I was like, oh, we
didn't know each other.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But I think you.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Watched the show or you knew me from the show.
We knew each other, but we didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Remember what the audition. No, but we we didn't know.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
We hadn't met, and I was just like there was
something familiar, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
No, you're so sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Not every single actress is sweet when you're in the
waiting room audition, and.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So were you.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I mean, but it's a tough place to be in
those waiting rooms. I mean, especially like you know everyone's
in your category or you're you know, obviously all VIY
usually for the I don't even think you and I
were trying it for the same role. It was for
some TV show. But yeah, it's hard to be in
those rooms.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But look at where we are now, man, how did
we get here?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I know, I love that you're doing this. So I've
been doing this for ten years? Is that crazy? And
years of and Lola, you just started your podcast. That
is so great.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I think that people sometimes go, oh, everyone has a podcast,
you know what everyone should. It's like a new version
of social media.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's great. Why did you decide to do that?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
It's a faith based podcast. So I'm a follower of Jesus,
and I think sometimes people who are younger Christians can
be a little embarrassed to share their faith. And I
found Jesus really young, but well, eighteen's kind of young.
So yeah, I decided to start it and talk about
(02:57):
my faith journey to maybe inspire people to show that
it's okay to share your faith.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
By the way, I'm in love. She the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Why do you think that people are embarrassed to talk
about their faith?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I think because of our world can be so judgmental,
you know, I think everyone judges.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I know, if you're too right, you're too left, you
do this, you do that.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, people can be so judgmental, and people maybe could
think it's not cool or whatever, it's embarrassing, and so
I think it's just yeah, it may not be very
common when you're young, but I think that's why people
may be embarrassed or scared, because they're so scared of
getting judged. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Modeling is great, and you're going to be a great
role model for so many people that hear you. And
and so what is this like, because you know, look,
you have three kids, I got four kids.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They're all very different.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, right, so are any of your siblings on the
same path or no, not so much. So you're spearheading
your own faith movement here.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I love that. I think that's great. What does that
do with you your family dynamic?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
It's probably very similar like with yours.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
It's when well, first of all, my girls were raised
they went to Catholic school, but mine did sometimes do
and they would you know, they were baptized and everything.
But I really applaud Lola that at you know, her age,
that she you know, when she was younger, she didn't
have a choice. I baptized her, and you know, and
(04:37):
I love that she's chosen this is the path she
wants to take. Sammy's the opposite.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Alouise is.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
You know, she loves going to church when we go
with Lola because she loves all the singing and everything.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
But you know, all all my kids are very different.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I have to you know, when they were growing up,
discipline them a little differently from each other, which I
think was hard for them to understand too, because they
would think I was favoring one over the other or
picking sides. I'm sure you've dealt with that with your
family as well. But I love that my girls are older,
like having an opinion and being I wish I had
the strength and the confidence that they.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Have when I was their age.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, me too. You know, it's so much different.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean I think at the time, you know, when
we were younger, it was all about I mean, it
still is about fitting in, right, But I do feel
like with social media and TikTok and all these platforms
that you guys have at your age, it does allow
you to differentiate yourself. And I feel like the good
part of that social is showing that you can be
an individual. Because the people that are really successful on
(05:41):
the as influencers are people that are authentically themselves and
stay you know, true to what they believe in who.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
They are, right. We didn't have that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
We were like, no, what, so we're going outside?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Are we all wearing black tops and lightwashed Jean's great?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It's so true, right, yeah, difference.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But I'm sure you guys all roll your eyes at
each other and do all that business.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
What do you mean like my friends?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, no, you're siblings. Oh yeah, yeah, mind you that too.
But you know, it's really good to know.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And I always tell my kids this because we have
an age Bread, like you do.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Your youngest is how old?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Thirteen?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So mine's fourteen? So and she's so she had seventh grade.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
She has a private teacher. She's special needs, so she does.
She's not in a grade.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Okay, so is in eighth grade. And like middle schools
just that's hard. Oh my god, middle school's the worst.
You know this, Yeah, but I keep telling them because
there's a seven year age Bread, like when the last
of you is twenty one, you're all the same age.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It will get different, yes, you'll see okay, yeah, it
will be different.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
And you'll be friends. Yes. And what's interesting, Sammy and Lola.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
They do have a lot of differences with each other,
but they're still very protective of each other.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And when they are older, I know that they're going
to look back at certain things and they will be
best friends. And they they are friends too. They have
little tips. Yeah, my kids go through this too, like
to mine. Like you are picking at each other.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And it's funny because I grew up. How many siblings
do you have?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Just one?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Y two?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
You have a sister, a sister very close in age,
me too, eighteen months apart, sixteen months apart.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You're the older or the younger.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I'm the older, I'm the younger.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How'd that go for you?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Well, it's I I was always I know how Sammy
feels because Lola got things earlier than Sammy did, privileges,
and I remember growing up my sister was allowed to
have stuff before I was allowed at that age, and
so you know, but it's silly stuff like sisterly things.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
You know, get past it obviously.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
When you're are you guys close?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Now we are close. We're very different sam no oh,
you know.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Her name is Michelle, but we call each other no oh, yes,
And I'm Matt Nel to her kids, and all the
kids a long time to figure out. They're like, wait
a second, you're both aunt, Like how long did it take.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Me about out? So funny. We just have always had
this nickname for each other.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
So cute. So yeah, so we were the same sixteen
months apart.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I found that difficult because you know, you're it's a
little too close in age.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I agree, because you're also fighting over the same friends
at times.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, they did too.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, my girlfriend Sarah, who also grew up with just
one sibling and she has two kids, I would talk
about my four. This one's fighting with this one and
this one doesn't really like that one or whatever. She's like,
that's terrible, and I go, no, we're just not used
to this, right, because it's different as soon as you
start to get a third and a fourth, right, because
(08:47):
when you just have one sibling, you're locked in.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It got no choices.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Right, Okay, so tell me about Let's let's take this
back before we get into the new show. Let's take
this back to reality in general. So I've talked about
this a lot, Like I remember very vividly being on
a scripted show when who wants to Be a Millionaire
came out and that was like it destroyed everything on TV.
(09:16):
And I remember all of us actors being like, reality
TV is the curse. It's going to ruin everything, and
you know, no one does reality and all.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And now here we are, all these years later, obviously
the landscape of television has completely changed and it's like
woven into the fiber of all of us. How difficult
was it for you to hop on Beverly Hills Housewives?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Do you remember?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Difficult?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
But it's funny when you said that show how to
be a Millionaire? For me, what I remember was the Osbournes.
That was the first reality show that I recalled as
a family show that I saw, and I loved it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I loved watching them.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I loved seeing you know, all their animals and seeing
the dynamic between the family. But it was a you know,
a tricky thing with being an actress, you know, doing reality.
But it's when we started acting, either you did film
or you did television right or to right. So it's
(10:20):
amazing how it's evolved. But I did a show when
the kids were younger with Ryan Seacrest called It's Complicated,
and that was a big decision, but you know, I
wanted to do it and kind of had to actually,
And then with Housewives, I feel that, you know, I
(10:42):
felt that everything in our business has changed so much,
and I love that there's so many different platforms to
do to entertain, you know, and with streaming and everything else.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And so for me, it was it wasn't a hard decision.
At the time.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Quite a few years ago, when I was a roach
to do it, I wasn't in the right place in
my life.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I was single and I was going through such a
terrible divorce that I'm like, I'm not in a good
place for me to do a show like that.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
But years later I was fine to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
When I first came on, I don't think there were
any other actresses on.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I don't think so either. I think you were the first.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I think I was too.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And I'm only pausing because I because Kyle and Kim
Richards are both actresses, because they were child actors, so
I don't think either.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Of them had worked since they at that time.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
As an adult.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
As an adult, Yeah, so I think I was the first,
like current right actress on the show.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It was.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I thought it was going to kill my career.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
No, I could.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And I'm sure did your agent think it was going
to kill your career too?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes? Everyone did, and my parents were so mean about it.
No one. I had no support it except from Terry.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
So why did you decide to do it?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Terry's signed the contracts?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh, but I mean obviously you guys talked about it.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
What made you want to do it?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We did? I didn't want to do it, I really will.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I thought it was a bad plan, and he thought
it was like silly and fun because he was a doctor.
He is a doctor, but I mean for him, this
is way before Botch. He wasn't doing TV and so
he thought this was folly.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So did they meet with you and Terry and do
like a sizzle of your family?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Because we had.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Been pitching a show about me and my girlfriend's opening
a restaurant, and that's how I got in front of Evolution, okay,
and that's how I met Alex Baskin.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Ah Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So it was like, well, we really liked that show,
but would hever ever consider doing this? And that's what
sort of So I came in a little unconventionally, I see, yeah,
but but I will say like, I am unbelievably grateful
for the whole platform, and even though sometimes it can
be you know, upsetting or frustrating or all those kinds
(12:51):
of things, I feel like exactly Litla what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You know, I've been able to show our family.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And I have four kids who are different genders and
different sexualities, and we've been able to start conversations and
other people's families and show them what our really.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Normal family looks like.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And that's so exciting. That's why I love what you're
doing with your platform.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
That's so kind.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah all right, so you did only two seasons, right
of Beverly Hill, Yeah, yeah, time to go.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yes, it was also after my second season.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It was right when while it was airing, was when
the pandemic hit.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, and so dealing with that and then dealing with,
you know, the downfall of a very dear friend of
mine with Lisa Renna, that was really hard for me
to have to wrap my head around, like how could
a show from a friendship of.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So many years? It was really hard to this day, oh,
to this day.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh that makes me so gad you know what, It's.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Okay though the journey before was I enjoyed, but it's
it is what it is, and things happen and people
sometimes change and whatever. But but at the time for
me not to go back a third season, my reunion
was really difficult because I felt like none of the
women except for Garcel, although I have now become really
(14:18):
good friends with Sutton, but that all right, I show
you are yeah, no, we're really close. But at the
time it was I'm like, no one on this show
likes me or wants me back. This will be a
really like how do I make this make sense? Because
I always went into the show as myself. I didn't
want to play a character of myself, and so I'm
(14:38):
like I came in wanting, you know, as friends, Like
no one likes me, and this won't I mean, how
do we make this work?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So it's really hard, you know what, I don't watch
any of the shows I hate.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I have to watch our show because.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I have to see what everyone's saying, right, right, But
like I never watched myself on scripted.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I don't either. I don't and people don't believe it. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So when and I used to talk, you know, I've
died for one hundred years. But we used to talk
about this like, oh my god, we have to watch
ourselves now. This is because at the time you had
to write blogs, right, Oh yes, so you have.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
To watch everything. Oh my god, it was so.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I forgot about the blogs. That was my first season.
The second season we did, they.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Got rid of it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
We had to write blots for like many years, just
a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It was a lot. But you know, to have to
watch yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But I don't watch the other franchises because I had
watched when Beverly Hills first came out because we were
friends with Paul Nassau. Oh yes, who's tears partner and
Botched and Adrian Luf. But we knew them before they
got married. Okay, so we knew them a long time.
So it was like, oh, they're doing this show.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Let's so.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think we watched the first maybe season and a half.
But then what happens for what would happened for me
is so I'm really friends were I'm friends with Lisa Wren,
and I'm friends with Garcela.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I've known her for years.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I've become friends with Sutton and Crystal and all these
different people.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
You and when we.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
See each other out I don't want to know what
happened at the party on the show last week.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I just want to talk be your friend.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, I get it to me.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I just it's cleaner because you have to do this
with the people that are on your show, right, So
you exited it out.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And what made you want?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I mean, like, you've done some crazy shows, Denise, Like
I texted you. But when I saw that that trailer for.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
That special forced special.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Worst thing, I didn't even know that was a show.
I'm behind the times clearly because it's like season three.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But when I saw your clip, I was liked, well, look,
could you believe she did that? Did you know what
she was going to have to do?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
They didn't tell us what was the pitch because it
wasn't like Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Hey, Denise, you're gonna come in, We're to give.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
You a hate out.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
They approached me to do season two and I hadn't
seen season one. Then they sent season one to me
and I said, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Not because you saw them being buried.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And I said, I'm not doing this show. I'll kill myself.
I will really come back very injured, like I can't
do that.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
And then season three came around.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
It took quite a few phone calls, and they, you know,
convinced me and that how safe everything is, and it's
more mental than physical and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It looks very physical.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's extremely physical, and clearly I'm not an athlete. So
my pilateus did not cut it. But I'm glad I
did it. But they don't tell you what you're doing.
But I had an idea of certain things, possibly because
I watched the other It's like when you.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Watch Survivor or Fear Factor, you kind of you would
get an idea. Yeah, but I did find out where
we were filming, and so I was like, okay, but
I didn't know. You know, I had no idea I'd
be jumping off a boat onto a helicopter or jumping
off a bridge, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
You know what, if.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I was told that, I would probably be like, you
know what, I'm good. I don't think there in the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You feel like you have yes.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
And I was the ding dong that did.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Tell them not to call me because I.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
And I am.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Glad I did it because I met some really amazing
people the short time that I was there.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
You bond very quickly.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh, I bet trauma bond.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
And then when you are off, you go to a
hotel and you stay there for a couple of days.
They have doctors and psychologists and everything making sure you're okay.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I don't want to be anything.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I know we need it is that stuff is off camera,
but so you know, one by one we would see
each other at the hotel and we would all hang
out together and commiserate. One time, I like voted off
or whatever when you leave or if they tell you
to leave, whatever. But yes, and so you know, I
am glad that I met so many wonderful people. I
(18:58):
could never do it again, but I'm glad I had
the experience.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's so funny.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
They were so mad though that I decided to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So your mom pitches this to you, what do you
what do you three say?
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I was just so nervous because she's so tiny. She's like,
I feel like most people who would do our like athletes,
like you said, like professional swimmers or you know.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's what freaks me out is the water. Yeah, drowning factory,
me too, Me too.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
So I was so nervous because she also couldn't text
us and update us, so I just had to trust.
She was okay, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
How long were you gone your phone? In the course
is ten days? And I lasted two.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
But it felt very good. I think I would have
last three days. What I did, I don't know how
I did that.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I'm not joking, and it's the whole day. It doesn't end.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I was like, when we get to sit and relax,
like it's more than the trail.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I was like, where's the craft service.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I really thought that they were going to break down
in between and say, okay, you guys, there's craft service.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And there is no blanket, nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
There's nothing. You're lucky. I mean I had to.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Negotiate a toilet facility because I'm like, I am not
going to sit where you're right next to someone and
you can see the legs.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
So I did get.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And I'm sure the producers were not thrilled that I
did make this public.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
But you should have privacy there.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I at least got a door from you know, from
the floor up so that you can't see in. But
Cam Newton is so damn tall. He was like, and
they said they would have it. I go, how am
I going to know where my private little toilet is
and I said, and I don't want to target on
my back, like everyone should be able to use the toilet.
(20:56):
Oh you'll you'll see it. It'll be behind some brush.
I was all right, I did see it, but Cam
Newton saw. He's like, hey, wait a second, there's a
private toilet right here. And I didn't say anything while
we were there. I told them all after, did you
let him use it? I didn't say they used it.
I didn't say anything about it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That's so.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But I'm like, I don't care. I didn't have a
key to it or anything. So whoever could use it
used it. But I was so it was such a
weird experience being because I'm strong vocally too on set
if I don't feel right about something or whatever on
that show, I was so scared to speak up because
you would get yelled at for everything, and the producers
aren't right there. It's the DS guys that are in charge.
(21:41):
And I thought that producers were just exaggerating about that part,
like I thought they would be there like, hey, can
I get a water or a snack or I'm a
grazer with food. And that was one of the hardest
things for me, was to go so long without food
and yeah, no they're not there.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So I was scared.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I would never do that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I mean, wasn't it a little bit of a culture
shock to go from a scripted to reality in the
first general in general, like when you got on Beverly Hills,
like and there's and look, we're just I'm gonna put
this out at the top. Evolution is great and amazing
is amazing. They're all great. Like I had, I've always
had a good experience, but it's just it's different. There's
no you don't arrive when you work on a House
(22:25):
I show, you don't arrive to set. There's no set,
there's no trailer, there's no dressing room, there's no glam
team unless you're paying for it.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's a big thing that people don't realize. For me,
one of the biggest things the first couple of days
of shooting filming, it was, you know, they put the
mic on and and then I'm like, well, when are
we starting, and they're like, we're doing ay said, she
goes as soon as that MIC's on, you started, Because
I'm like, no one says action or anything like they
(22:55):
would put the cameras up and I was waiting for
them to adjust stuff or say okay or right, and
I'm just like, you know, goofing around or whatever. I'm like,
let me know when you guys are ready. They're like,
we been ready and filmed me. And when Garcell started,
her first scene was with me, and she was waiting
and waiting and that finally they're like, we're ready, and
(23:17):
she goes, oh, I was waiting for someone.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
To say action. I go, I did too.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I go.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
There's no one says action actions when you put the mic.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Just so you know, it's so funny, you have to
do some things there.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It was a scene with Lisa and Lisa Da and
Garcel and they're on a trip okay, and they're in
some house and I just remember they're sitting there alone,
two of them making really boring small talk and it's
because they're the only two on time, and it's because
they're actors.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And I just remember seeing a clip of this scene
and I'm laughing, and I texted both of them and
I wrote hashtag call sheep and they both talking back
and they're like, I know, it is very it's very different, and.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
There is no craft service. That was the biggest thing too.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Well the crew has craft service.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, well, the small little boxes of snacks they get.
But I said to Also, my first second day of
filming was the Bahamas trip, and we were on some
little island after leaving our hotel. And Lisa, Renna knows
me very well because I am a grazer and I
snack all the time, and I always have pretzels in
my bag or whatever. And I'm like, where is craft service?
(24:28):
And they were laughing and ren it goes. We have
to make sure Denise always.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Has I go. My blood sugar is dropping and I
cannot do that.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
This is not gonna go right.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
The next day, I took all the snacks out of
my mini bar and stuffed them in my beach bag
when we went on a boat.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
So I can't go all day without eating.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Like, no, you have to. I know.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So you've done reality. You've done all different kinds of shows. Now,
when we're on a housewife show, obviously our kids are
a part of it, they show our lives at home
or marriages, all that kind of thing. But you guys,
doing your own show takes it to a whole different
level because look, these shows are about conflict, and resolution right,
(25:20):
and hopefully you're not having that within your own family,
But how do you navigate that? And what made you
made you want to pull a trigger on this?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Did someone come to you with this?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Did you guys have Alex Baskin approached me and asked
if I wanted to do a family.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Docu series, and I had, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Talked to the girls about it because I wanted to
make sure everyone was on board.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Got to have a family meeting.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Exactly, and Sammy right away was wanting to do it
because she's always said in the past, we need cameras
because it's always crazy and whatever going on in our life.
And yeah, and but Lola has a tent at first why.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
I don't know. I've never been someone who's watched reality
or like, it's always just felt very just like chaotic,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's a good way to describe it.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
It's very Yeah, from like what I feel comfortable, And
I guess so I was just a little nervous because
I didn't want it to cause conflict between our family.
And also I think people have so many opinions, of course,
and so I was nervous about because people could be
(26:35):
so harsh online especially like when our family maybe wasn't
doing well.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I guess yet a little bit in the press over
the years.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
But I'm saying like, even when we started the show,
like say and I, you know, we weren't really talking,
so I was hesitant to because I was like, I
don't know how this is going to go when we
start filming. I also had no idea what it was
going to be like, so I just didn't know what
to expect. I didn't know what I was really getting
myself into.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And now, how do you feel?
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I'm glad that I did it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Oh, it was good for Have you've seen all the episodes?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
No, she hasn't seen She hasn't seen the show.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Better that way, I would love to watch it.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, I'm only watching it because it's our show. But
I didn't see a lot of the Housewives episodes either.
I don't want I didn't see Special Forces, like I
don't want to watch a lot of my stuff too.
And I think though for them, one of the things
that I did say to the girls was I wanted
them to be themselves. Yeah, and they're very much themselves
(27:39):
almost where you know a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Like I've told you, like you might want to reel
it in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I'm glad that they're themselves because I think people see
through that stuff anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yes, you have to be aut that shick, but it
is like it's awkward, especially like now that you're nineteen,
I think it's a better time to jump in. But
your little sister at thirteen, is she on the show
a lot?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
She is, She's Eloise, is primarily nonverbal, and she but
she loves and you know, I talked to her about
the show. She would watch like the opening of Housewives
over and over and over.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
She loved seeing me hold the.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Dime that's so I know, and the scenes she was
on in the show. She liked watching herself and so
I explained it what we were doing.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
And she loves the camera.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
She will she laugh at the crew and smile with them,
and she loves watching herself and doing shoots and things.
So it's you know, she's obviously not on social media
or anything like that, but she she loves it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh, I think it's great, and I think it's really beautiful,
and you're showing what a great mom you are and
how parent three different, very different kids.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Differently and about adoption and you know.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
All things and especial needs too.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
There's a lot of challenges with that and I'm I'm
glad that I have this platform too to share you know,
the differences and and how challenging it can be to
you and how much a special needs child can thrive
and you know with the simplest thing. So I'm grateful
to have that platform to show too.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, I think that's great. What about your ex? What
about your dad?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
So was that a conversation with him about having him
be a part.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Of the show.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
We he is definitely people will see him on the show.
And you know, I told him, I said, uh, your
daughters and you need to support them. We've supported you
all these years.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Time for the.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Time for you to come on our And it was
great and I think it'll be good.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
It was so funny. Yeah, Da. It was really.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Sweet to share a screen with him because I've never
been on camera with him, but I've always seen him
on camera, you know, So it was a really sweet moment.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That is so cute.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Like I have to say, when my kids were little
when we started the show, my youngest.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Was nine months old. I remember, is that crazy?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Fourteen fourteen.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I know it's insane, but the twins were seven and
then Kat was born. He was nine months.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
But anyway, we have now these videos that I never
would have had with the kids saying like funny things
or whatever it was, and it's cool. But now you
have this cool you know, videos of you with your
mom and with your sisters and with your dad.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I mean, I think that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I know you can't, it's really those are lovely moments
to have too.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Did anything happen that you regret, No, that you wish
hadn't been shown.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
No, you feel really balanced about that day. That's so good. Yeah,
so it was a positive because.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It was a positive experience.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
And I'm so grateful that we're getting such a positive
reaction because you don't know people are gonna like your
show or not.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
No, people seem to love it.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, no, thank you, And it's it's nice. She's so
many people have reached out to Lola. What an inspiration
she is for people. Yeah, it's like and that's the
thing that I told her. You know, there is a lot,
obviously with social media that can be negative, but I
try to tell the girls to focus on just the
positive and there's a lot of good that can come
(31:33):
out of it of you know, trying to help other
people do certain things or see something in us or
you know, we're just at the end of the day
like you too. I'm a mom navigating my family, and
you and Terry are parents navigating your family too, And
a lot of people can relate to certain situations that
you guys deal with.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I mean, I think that's the beauty of these platforms.
I think is that you start conversations and other people's
face emilies, and people see either that they're not alone
or you know how to handle different situations.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's my favorite part.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, because it doesn't matter how much money someone may
have or how much fame.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
The issues are the same.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
At the end of the day, you have a lot
of issues that a lot of other people can relate to.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, it's great. So would you do Will you do
it again?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
We'll see if we get picked up.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
If it gets picked up, we'll see would.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
You do it again?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yes? I would.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
There's a butt a comma.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I would do it again. I think now I know
what to expect.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I I have.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Built a little bit more of a backbone I've had
to because I think before, like before I did it,
I was worried because I do I'm very sensitive and
so but I think maybe that way I try to
like be like, oh, I shouldn't be that sensitive to people,
but I just think that's who I am. And so
(33:07):
I was nervous going into it in the beginning because
I struggle with so many things mental health related. So
I was like, I don't want I hope this doesn't
like make me just get into a bad headspace. But
after hearing the encouragement about my faith, it's so way
more than a different reaction than I expected. And so
(33:29):
because I was thinking I was talking, I called her
so many times before the show came out, and I
was like, I'm so.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Worried about this.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
I'm so scared. I'm gonna have to like shut my
phone off for a.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Month or something. That was my plan.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
But then the encouragement showed me that being myself and
being who I am really you know, can help people
and being real on camera with what you go through.
So I would go into it again because I have
so many people reaching out to me saying that I
make them want to follow Jeesus or I make them
know it's okay to not always look glamor whatever it is.
(34:05):
You know, it's just it's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
So what do your friends think about it? They don't
watch it.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
It's so funny. None of my friends have seen it,
and I asked them, like, only one of my friends, Sarah,
her whole family. They put it on every Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
And they all watch it together.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
She's like, yeah, she's like my sister.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
She loves it.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
She thinks it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I just like I told my friends they can watch it.
I think they think that I'm embarrassed if they watch it. Nick,
my one best guy friend, he won't watch it.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
He was in the scene.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I'm like, please watch it. It's so funny because we
were making tacos. But it was such an awkward scene.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It was so awkward.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
I didn't even realize it was that awkward till I
watched it back and I was like, oh my, like
I Sammy because the way that they cut it was
like we were making tacos and Sammy's getting ready for
like a rave or something.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, the juxtaposition. Yeah, And I was like, oh my gosh,
because it was so awkward.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
I know what to say, because Nick got a little
like uncomfortable on camera and I was like, oh, my gosh, guys,
look at this new strainer and Sammy's like, my gosh,
look at my outfit like it's so she wasn't really
wearing what was the scene like? It was so funny
much much so it was funny, but Nick won't watch it.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
So you did that episode then, yes, good, Sarah, Well
only that clip, Sarah.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Sarah sent it to you.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You know, a great thing too, with the girls doing
this that I told them they've always lived in the
shadow of Denise, which was in Charlie Sheen.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Now they have that.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah, so it's been a nice thing for them to
have their own voice and to have people start getting
to know them as adults as you know them.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I was going to ask you, Ola, because Sammy has
made a name first off in the last few years,
but the only things and everything, and she's like a
big influencer. People know her, I mean, to make she
gets recognized out in public.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I think she does.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But have you now started getting recognized?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean, I know you recognize it if you're with
one of your parents obviously they know you're their child,
But now that you're on this show, are you getting
recognized in your own right?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I got.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
The first time I got recognized was when I went
to Arizona to film a podcast about Jesus and this
woman like I had just started my podcast. I uploaded
one video sharing my testimony, and this woman came up
to me, almost in tears, and she was like, oh
my gosh, I just saw your testimony and like was
so encouraging. She was like, I'm so I can't believe
(36:35):
you're right here. I was like, that's so crazy from
something I like just posted. I haven't gotten recognized from
the show yet, though you did.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
You signed your first autographs.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I was in the building.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
She already walked out, and I was like, I wish
I had my phone to record her.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Was so cute. I guess I did.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Again, I did get recognized.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
A couple of people asked to take a photo with me,
and I thought they weren't like talking to Sam, and
they're like, no, I really want a photo with you.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I was like, oh, are you sure? It's so sweet?
Do you like that? I think it's really sweet.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
It's very humbling because I'm just like, who am I
to like take a photo.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I don't know. It's very strange. I have to say,
I'm curious how you feel about this too.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But like back in the day, we were just scripted actresses.
It was different, right, people would come up to you
and to be like, oh I love your show or
I love your character, that kind of thing. But now
they know you, they know you, they know you, and
so when they come up to you, they've they've been
in your home and they feel like you are friends
(37:45):
and you've affected their lives in some way. I mean,
it's lovely, but it's it is humbling, but it's also
it's so bizarre as it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Is because they know a lot and they actually think
they know more sometimes about certain things, and so true,
you know, it's that fine line.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
It is different.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, it's very different, especially the housewife thing. That thing
is just blown up such it's so much bigger now
than it ever.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Was, really bigger.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
It's crazy. Oh, I love that you're getting recognized.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
It's so sweet.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
The autograph was really sweet. I felt so bad because
they like were rushing me out, so I wrote my
name is so bad, But I drew him a heart because.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Older gentleman because mostly people want photos.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
He was older. It was older.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
It was like a whiteboard.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Though.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
I was like, how is this gonna How are you
going to keep this? Because I use some like a
high what is it a sharper on a whiteboard?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
They have a way of long time from the days
to sit there inside with those little index cards.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's so crazy, it's so fun. So we think maybe
we might do this again. It's on the day we.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Have to see if people like us enough to have
us back again.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Would you ever go back to Housewives?
Speaker 4 (39:06):
I would?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
You would?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah? I would?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
All right, I love that. All right, you heard it
here first.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Who knows door is always you.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Know, I'm close to a lot of the women on
the show, so that would make sense, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, But you've been back a little bit, You've done
some little.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Bit appearances, and I've become I'm sure like with you
become friends with women from some of the others.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Isn't that so crazy? I always say it's like a sorority.
That's why I don't watch the other shows because I
don't want to know, right, I just want to like,
you meet people and you're like, oh, this.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Is and you catch up on real life stuff. Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
All right, well, I'm so happy for both of you,
for the whole family. Congratulations on all the success.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I'm gonna, you.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Know, gonna cross my fingers for a second season. Let's
tell everyone I to find you on social and how
to of everyone in the name of your podcast.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
So sweet.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
My podcast is called Heavenly Bonded. And then my Instagram
is just low Lachine, so yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Your social Denise Richards there.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
It is much Thank you so much,
Let's talk with how they dubro starts now today. Oh
I'm so excited. This is so cute. Denise Richards is
here with their daughter, Lola. They are the stars of Bravos,
Denise Richards and her wild Things. Of course everyone knows Denise.
She's an actress, a businesswoman, New York Times best selling author,
and her incredible daughter is here and this is so
(00:25):
so fun. Please welcome Denise and Lola.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Oh my gosh, it's so good to see you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
First of all, do you remember how we met?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I don't remember the very first time, but I've seen
you so many times.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I know I do remember because I have this thing
and I've been talking about this for years. But it's
so funny, like I will see someone who's famous, right,
and I will pause and think, like do I know them?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Have I worked with them more?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Or do I not just know them because like they're famous.
Like I remember one time I was at Fred Siegel
and Daphanie Zuonago was there.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Do you know Jephany?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
And so I turned around and I was like, oh,
it's Dephanie Sinega and.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I just paused and she looked at me. She's like
Heather I'm like.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Oh good, I've done that before.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Okay. So you and I were at an audition okay,
I was.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
On Housewives, this is before you did Okay, and we
were in a waiting room. I don't even remember what
we were auditioning for. I just remember you started talking
to me, and I thought, okay, we know each other.
And then I realized we didn't know each other. This
is like years ago. And I was like, oh, we
didn't know each other.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But I think you.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Watched the show or you knew me from the show.
We knew each other, but we didn't.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Remember what the audition. No, but we we didn't know.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
We hadn't met, and I was just like there was
something familiar, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
No, you're so sweet.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Not every single actress is sweet when you're in the
waiting room audition, and.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
So were you.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
I mean, but it's a tough place to be in
those waiting rooms. I mean, especially like you know everyone's
in your category or you're you know, obviously all VIY
usually for the I don't even think you and I
were trying it for the same role. It was for
some TV show. But yeah, it's hard to be in
those rooms.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Yeah, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
But look at where we are now, man, how did
we get here?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I know, I love that you're doing this. So I've
been doing this for ten years? Is that crazy? And
years of and Lola, you just started your podcast. That
is so great.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I think that people sometimes go, oh, everyone has a podcast,
you know what everyone should. It's like a new version
of social media.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's great. Why did you decide to do that?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
It's a faith based podcast. So I'm a follower of Jesus,
and I think sometimes people who are younger Christians can
be a little embarrassed to share their faith. And I
found Jesus really young, but well, eighteen's kind of young.
So yeah, I decided to start it and talk about
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my faith journey to maybe inspire people to show that
it's okay to share your faith.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
By the way, I'm in love. She the cutest thing ever.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Why do you think that people are embarrassed to talk
about their faith?
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I think because of our world can be so judgmental,
you know, I think everyone judges.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I know, if you're too right, you're too left, you
do this, you do that.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah, people can be so judgmental, and people maybe could
think it's not cool or whatever, it's embarrassing, and so
I think it's just yeah, it may not be very
common when you're young, but I think that's why people
may be embarrassed or scared, because they're so scared of
getting judged. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Modeling is great, and you're going to be a great
role model for so many people that hear you. And
and so what is this like, because you know, look,
you have three kids, I got four kids.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They're all very different.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Yes, right, so are any of your siblings on the
same path or no, not so much. So you're spearheading
your own faith movement here.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I love that. I think that's great. What does that
do with you your family dynamic?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
It's probably very similar like with yours.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
It's when well, first of all, my girls were raised
they went to Catholic school, but mine did sometimes do
and they would you know, they were baptized and everything.
But I really applaud Lola that at you know, her age,
that she you know, when she was younger, she didn't
have a choice. I baptized her, and you know, and
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I love that she's chosen this is the path she
wants to take. Sammy's the opposite.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Alouise is.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
You know, she loves going to church when we go
with Lola because she loves all the singing and everything.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
But you know, all all my kids are very different.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I have to you know, when they were growing up,
discipline them a little differently from each other, which I
think was hard for them to understand too, because they
would think I was favoring one over the other or
picking sides. I'm sure you've dealt with that with your
family as well. But I love that my girls are older,
like having an opinion and being I wish I had
the strength and the confidence that they.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Have when I was their age.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, me too. You know, it's so much different.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
I mean I think at the time, you know, when
we were younger, it was all about I mean, it
still is about fitting in, right, But I do feel
like with social media and TikTok and all these platforms
that you guys have at your age, it does allow
you to differentiate yourself. And I feel like the good
part of that social is showing that you can be
an individual. Because the people that are really successful on
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the as influencers are people that are authentically themselves and
stay you know, true to what they believe in who.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
They are, right. We didn't have that.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
We were like, no, what, so we're going outside?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Are we all wearing black tops and lightwashed Jean's great?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
It's so true, right, yeah, difference.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
But I'm sure you guys all roll your eyes at
each other and do all that business.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
What do you mean like my friends?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
No, no, you're siblings. Oh yeah, yeah, mind you that too.
But you know, it's really good to know.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
And I always tell my kids this because we have
an age Bread, like you do.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Your youngest is how old?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Thirteen?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So mine's fourteen? So and she's so she had seventh grade.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
She has a private teacher. She's special needs, so she does.
She's not in a grade.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Okay, so is in eighth grade. And like middle schools
just that's hard. Oh my god, middle school's the worst.
You know this, Yeah, but I keep telling them because
there's a seven year age Bread, like when the last
of you is twenty one, you're all the same age.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
It will get different, yes, you'll see okay, yeah, it
will be different.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
And you'll be friends. Yes. And what's interesting, Sammy and Lola.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
They do have a lot of differences with each other,
but they're still very protective of each other.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
And when they are older, I know that they're going
to look back at certain things and they will be
best friends. And they they are friends too. They have
little tips. Yeah, my kids go through this too, like
to mine. Like you are picking at each other.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And it's funny because I grew up. How many siblings
do you have?
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Just one?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Y two?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
You have a sister, a sister very close in age,
me too, eighteen months apart, sixteen months apart.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
You're the older or the younger.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I'm the older, I'm the younger.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How'd that go for you?
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Well, it's I I was always I know how Sammy
feels because Lola got things earlier than Sammy did, privileges,
and I remember growing up my sister was allowed to
have stuff before I was allowed at that age, and
so you know, but it's silly stuff like sisterly things.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
You know, get past it obviously.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
When you're are you guys close?
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Now we are close. We're very different sam no oh,
you know.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Her name is Michelle, but we call each other no oh, yes,
And I'm Matt Nel to her kids, and all the
kids a long time to figure out. They're like, wait
a second, you're both aunt, Like how long did it take.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Me about out? So funny. We just have always had
this nickname for each other.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
So cute. So yeah, so we were the same sixteen
months apart.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I found that difficult because you know, you're it's a
little too close in age.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I agree, because you're also fighting over the same friends
at times.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, they did too.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah, my girlfriend Sarah, who also grew up with just
one sibling and she has two kids, I would talk
about my four. This one's fighting with this one and
this one doesn't really like that one or whatever. She's like,
that's terrible, and I go, no, we're just not used
to this, right, because it's different as soon as you
start to get a third and a fourth, right, because
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when you just have one sibling, you're locked in.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It got no choices.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Right, Okay, so tell me about Let's let's take this
back before we get into the new show. Let's take
this back to reality in general. So I've talked about
this a lot, Like I remember very vividly being on
a scripted show when who wants to Be a Millionaire
came out and that was like it destroyed everything on TV.
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And I remember all of us actors being like, reality
TV is the curse. It's going to ruin everything, and
you know, no one does reality and all.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
And now here we are, all these years later, obviously
the landscape of television has completely changed and it's like
woven into the fiber of all of us. How difficult
was it for you to hop on Beverly Hills Housewives?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Do you remember?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Difficult?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
But it's funny when you said that show how to
be a Millionaire? For me, what I remember was the Osbournes.
That was the first reality show that I recalled as
a family show that I saw, and I loved it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I loved watching them.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
I loved seeing you know, all their animals and seeing
the dynamic between the family. But it was a you know,
a tricky thing with being an actress, you know, doing reality.
But it's when we started acting, either you did film
or you did television right or to right. So it's
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amazing how it's evolved. But I did a show when
the kids were younger with Ryan Seacrest called It's Complicated,
and that was a big decision, but you know, I
wanted to do it and kind of had to actually,
And then with Housewives, I feel that, you know, I
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felt that everything in our business has changed so much,
and I love that there's so many different platforms to
do to entertain, you know, and with streaming and everything else.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
And so for me, it was it wasn't a hard decision.
At the time.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Quite a few years ago, when I was a roach
to do it, I wasn't in the right place in
my life.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
To do it.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I was single and I was going through such a
terrible divorce that I'm like, I'm not in a good
place for me to do a show like that.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
But years later I was fine to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
When I first came on, I don't think there were
any other actresses on.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I don't think so either. I think you were the first.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I think I was too.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
And I'm only pausing because I because Kyle and Kim
Richards are both actresses, because they were child actors, so
I don't think either.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Of them had worked since they at that time.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
As an adult.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
As an adult, Yeah, so I think I was the first,
like current right actress on the show.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
It was.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
I thought it was going to kill my career.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
No, I could.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
And I'm sure did your agent think it was going
to kill your career too?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yes? Everyone did, and my parents were so mean about it.
No one. I had no support it except from Terry.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
So why did you decide to do it?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Terry's signed the contracts?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Oh, but I mean obviously you guys talked about it.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
What made you want to do it?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
We did? I didn't want to do it, I really will.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I thought it was a bad plan, and he thought
it was like silly and fun because he was a doctor.
He is a doctor, but I mean for him, this
is way before Botch. He wasn't doing TV and so
he thought this was folly.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
So did they meet with you and Terry and do
like a sizzle of your family?
Speaker 5 (12:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Because we had.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Been pitching a show about me and my girlfriend's opening
a restaurant, and that's how I got in front of Evolution, okay,
and that's how I met Alex Baskin.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Ah Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So it was like, well, we really liked that show,
but would hever ever consider doing this? And that's what
sort of So I came in a little unconventionally, I see, yeah,
but but I will say like, I am unbelievably grateful
for the whole platform, and even though sometimes it can
be you know, upsetting or frustrating or all those kinds
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of things, I feel like exactly Litla what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
You know, I've been able to show our family.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And I have four kids who are different genders and
different sexualities, and we've been able to start conversations and
other people's families and show them what our really.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Normal family looks like.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
And that's so exciting. That's why I love what you're
doing with your platform.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
That's so kind.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah all right, so you did only two seasons, right
of Beverly Hill, Yeah, yeah, time to go.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yes, it was also after my second season.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
It was right when while it was airing, was when
the pandemic hit.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Yeah, and so dealing with that and then dealing with,
you know, the downfall of a very dear friend of
mine with Lisa Renna, that was really hard for me
to have to wrap my head around, like how could
a show from a friendship of.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
So many years? It was really hard to this day, oh,
to this day.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh that makes me so gad you know what, It's.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Okay though the journey before was I enjoyed, but it's
it is what it is, and things happen and people
sometimes change and whatever. But but at the time for
me not to go back a third season, my reunion
was really difficult because I felt like none of the
women except for Garcel, although I have now become really
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good friends with Sutton, but that all right, I show
you are yeah, no, we're really close. But at the
time it was I'm like, no one on this show
likes me or wants me back. This will be a
really like how do I make this make sense? Because
I always went into the show as myself. I didn't
want to play a character of myself, and so I'm
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like I came in wanting, you know, as friends, Like
no one likes me, and this won't I mean, how
do we make this work?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
So it's really hard, you know what, I don't watch
any of the shows I hate.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I have to watch our show because.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I have to see what everyone's saying, right, right, But
like I never watched myself on scripted.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
I don't either. I don't and people don't believe it. Right.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
So when and I used to talk, you know, I've
died for one hundred years. But we used to talk
about this like, oh my god, we have to watch
ourselves now. This is because at the time you had
to write blogs, right, Oh yes, so you have.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
To watch everything. Oh my god, it was so.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I forgot about the blogs. That was my first season.
The second season we did, they.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Got rid of it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
We had to write blots for like many years, just
a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It was a lot. But you know, to have to
watch yourself.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
But I don't watch the other franchises because I had
watched when Beverly Hills first came out because we were
friends with Paul Nassau. Oh yes, who's tears partner and
Botched and Adrian Luf. But we knew them before they
got married. Okay, so we knew them a long time.
So it was like, oh, they're doing this show.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Let's so.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I think we watched the first maybe season and a half.
But then what happens for what would happened for me
is so I'm really friends were I'm friends with Lisa Wren,
and I'm friends with Garcela.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I've known her for years.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I've become friends with Sutton and Crystal and all these
different people.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
You and when we.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
See each other out I don't want to know what
happened at the party on the show last week.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I just want to talk be your friend.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Yeah, I get it to me.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
I just it's cleaner because you have to do this
with the people that are on your show, right, So
you exited it out.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And what made you want?
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I mean, like, you've done some crazy shows, Denise, Like
I texted you. But when I saw that that trailer for.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
That special forced special.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Worst thing, I didn't even know that was a show.
I'm behind the times clearly because it's like season three.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
But when I saw your clip, I was liked, well, look,
could you believe she did that? Did you know what
she was going to have to do?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
They didn't tell us what was the pitch because it
wasn't like Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Hey, Denise, you're gonna come in, We're to give.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
You a hate out.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
They approached me to do season two and I hadn't
seen season one. Then they sent season one to me
and I said, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Not because you saw them being buried.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And I said, I'm not doing this show. I'll kill myself.
I will really come back very injured, like I can't
do that.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
And then season three came around.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
It took quite a few phone calls, and they, you know,
convinced me and that how safe everything is, and it's
more mental than physical and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
It looks very physical.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's extremely physical, and clearly I'm not an athlete. So
my pilateus did not cut it. But I'm glad I
did it. But they don't tell you what you're doing.
But I had an idea of certain things, possibly because
I watched the other It's like when you.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Watch Survivor or Fear Factor, you kind of you would
get an idea. Yeah, but I did find out where
we were filming, and so I was like, okay, but
I didn't know. You know, I had no idea I'd
be jumping off a boat onto a helicopter or jumping
off a bridge, you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
You know what, if.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I was told that, I would probably be like, you
know what, I'm good. I don't think there in the moment.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You feel like you have yes.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
And I was the ding dong that did.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Tell them not to call me because I.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
And I am.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Glad I did it because I met some really amazing
people the short time that I was there.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
You bond very quickly.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Oh, I bet trauma bond.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
And then when you are off, you go to a
hotel and you stay there for a couple of days.
They have doctors and psychologists and everything making sure you're okay.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I don't want to be anything.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I know we need it is that stuff is off camera,
but so you know, one by one we would see
each other at the hotel and we would all hang
out together and commiserate. One time, I like voted off
or whatever when you leave or if they tell you
to leave, whatever. But yes, and so you know, I
am glad that I met so many wonderful people. I
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could never do it again, but I'm glad I had
the experience.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
But I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
It's so funny.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
They were so mad though that I decided to do it.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
So your mom pitches this to you, what do you
what do you three say?
Speaker 5 (19:12):
I was just so nervous because she's so tiny. She's like,
I feel like most people who would do our like athletes,
like you said, like professional swimmers or you know.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
That's what freaks me out is the water. Yeah, drowning factory,
me too, Me too.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
So I was so nervous because she also couldn't text
us and update us, so I just had to trust.
She was okay, you know.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
How long were you gone your phone? In the course
is ten days? And I lasted two.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
But it felt very good. I think I would have
last three days. What I did, I don't know how
I did that.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I'm not joking, and it's the whole day. It doesn't end.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I was like, when we get to sit and relax,
like it's more than the trail.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I was like, where's the craft service.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I really thought that they were going to break down
in between and say, okay, you guys, there's craft service.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And there is no blanket, nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
There's nothing. You're lucky. I mean I had to.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Negotiate a toilet facility because I'm like, I am not
going to sit where you're right next to someone and
you can see the legs.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
So I did get.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
And I'm sure the producers were not thrilled that I
did make this public.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
But you should have privacy there.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I at least got a door from you know, from
the floor up so that you can't see in. But
Cam Newton is so damn tall. He was like, and
they said they would have it. I go, how am
I going to know where my private little toilet is
and I said, and I don't want to target on
my back, like everyone should be able to use the toilet.
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Oh you'll you'll see it. It'll be behind some brush.
I was all right, I did see it, but Cam
Newton saw. He's like, hey, wait a second, there's a
private toilet right here. And I didn't say anything while
we were there. I told them all after, did you
let him use it? I didn't say they used it.
I didn't say anything about it.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
That's so.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
But I'm like, I don't care. I didn't have a
key to it or anything. So whoever could use it
used it. But I was so it was such a
weird experience being because I'm strong vocally too on set
if I don't feel right about something or whatever on
that show, I was so scared to speak up because
you would get yelled at for everything, and the producers
aren't right there. It's the DS guys that are in charge.
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And I thought that producers were just exaggerating about that part,
like I thought they would be there like, hey, can
I get a water or a snack or I'm a
grazer with food. And that was one of the hardest
things for me, was to go so long without food
and yeah, no they're not there.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
So I was scared.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
I would never do that.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I mean, wasn't it a little bit of a culture
shock to go from a scripted to reality in the
first general in general, like when you got on Beverly Hills,
like and there's and look, we're just I'm gonna put
this out at the top. Evolution is great and amazing
is amazing. They're all great. Like I had, I've always
had a good experience, but it's just it's different. There's
no you don't arrive when you work on a House
(22:25):
I show, you don't arrive to set. There's no set,
there's no trailer, there's no dressing room, there's no glam
team unless you're paying for it.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
That's a big thing that people don't realize. For me,
one of the biggest things the first couple of days
of shooting filming, it was, you know, they put the
mic on and and then I'm like, well, when are
we starting, and they're like, we're doing ay said, she
goes as soon as that MIC's on, you started, Because
I'm like, no one says action or anything like they
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would put the cameras up and I was waiting for
them to adjust stuff or say okay or right, and
I'm just like, you know, goofing around or whatever. I'm like,
let me know when you guys are ready. They're like,
we been ready and filmed me. And when Garcell started,
her first scene was with me, and she was waiting
and waiting and that finally they're like, we're ready, and
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she goes, oh, I was waiting for someone.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
To say action. I go, I did too.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
I go.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
There's no one says action actions when you put the mic.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Just so you know, it's so funny, you have to
do some things there.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It was a scene with Lisa and Lisa Da and
Garcel and they're on a trip okay, and they're in
some house and I just remember they're sitting there alone,
two of them making really boring small talk and it's
because they're the only two on time, and it's because
they're actors.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
And I just remember seeing a clip of this scene
and I'm laughing, and I texted both of them and
I wrote hashtag call sheep and they both talking back
and they're like, I know, it is very it's very different, and.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
There is no craft service. That was the biggest thing too.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Well the crew has craft service.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, well, the small little boxes of snacks they get.
But I said to Also, my first second day of
filming was the Bahamas trip, and we were on some
little island after leaving our hotel. And Lisa, Renna knows
me very well because I am a grazer and I
snack all the time, and I always have pretzels in
my bag or whatever. And I'm like, where is craft service?
(24:28):
And they were laughing and ren it goes. We have
to make sure Denise always.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Has I go. My blood sugar is dropping and I
cannot do that.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
This is not gonna go right.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
The next day, I took all the snacks out of
my mini bar and stuffed them in my beach bag
when we went on a boat.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
So I can't go all day without eating.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Like, no, you have to. I know.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
So you've done reality. You've done all different kinds of shows. Now,
when we're on a housewife show, obviously our kids are
a part of it, they show our lives at home
or marriages, all that kind of thing. But you guys,
doing your own show takes it to a whole different
level because look, these shows are about conflict, and resolution right,
(25:20):
and hopefully you're not having that within your own family,
But how do you navigate that? And what made you
made you want to pull a trigger on this?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Did someone come to you with this?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Did you guys have Alex Baskin approached me and asked
if I wanted to do a family.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Docu series, and I had, you know, I.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Talked to the girls about it because I wanted to
make sure everyone was on board.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Got to have a family meeting.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Exactly, and Sammy right away was wanting to do it
because she's always said in the past, we need cameras
because it's always crazy and whatever going on in our life.
And yeah, and but Lola has a tent at first why.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
I don't know. I've never been someone who's watched reality
or like, it's always just felt very just like chaotic,
you know.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
It's a good way to describe it.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
It's very Yeah, from like what I feel comfortable, And
I guess so I was just a little nervous because
I didn't want it to cause conflict between our family.
And also I think people have so many opinions, of course,
and so I was nervous about because people could be
(26:35):
so harsh online especially like when our family maybe wasn't
doing well.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I guess yet a little bit in the press over
the years.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
But I'm saying like, even when we started the show,
like say and I, you know, we weren't really talking,
so I was hesitant to because I was like, I
don't know how this is going to go when we
start filming. I also had no idea what it was
going to be like, so I just didn't know what
to expect. I didn't know what I was really getting
myself into.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And now, how do you feel?
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I'm glad that I did it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Oh, it was good for Have you've seen all the episodes?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
No, she hasn't seen She hasn't seen the show.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Better that way, I would love to watch it.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Yeah, I'm only watching it because it's our show. But
I didn't see a lot of the Housewives episodes either.
I don't want I didn't see Special Forces, like I
don't want to watch a lot of my stuff too.
And I think though for them, one of the things
that I did say to the girls was I wanted
them to be themselves. Yeah, and they're very much themselves
(27:39):
almost where you know a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Like I've told you, like you might want to reel
it in a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
I'm glad that they're themselves because I think people see
through that stuff anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yes, you have to be aut that shick, but it
is like it's awkward, especially like now that you're nineteen,
I think it's a better time to jump in. But
your little sister at thirteen, is she on the show
a lot?
Speaker 3 (28:07):
She is, She's Eloise, is primarily nonverbal, and she but
she loves and you know, I talked to her about
the show. She would watch like the opening of Housewives
over and over and over.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
She loved seeing me hold the.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Dime that's so I know, and the scenes she was
on in the show. She liked watching herself and so
I explained it what we were doing.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
And she loves the camera.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
That's great.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
She will she laugh at the crew and smile with them,
and she loves watching herself and doing shoots and things.
So it's you know, she's obviously not on social media
or anything like that, but she she loves it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Oh, I think it's great, and I think it's really beautiful,
and you're showing what a great mom you are and
how parent three different, very different kids.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Differently and about adoption and you know.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
All things and especial needs too.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
There's a lot of challenges with that and I'm I'm
glad that I have this platform too to share you know,
the differences and and how challenging it can be to
you and how much a special needs child can thrive
and you know with the simplest thing. So I'm grateful
to have that platform to show too.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, I think that's great. What about your ex? What
about your dad?
Speaker 1 (29:30):
So was that a conversation with him about having him
be a part.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Of the show.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
We he is definitely people will see him on the show.
And you know, I told him, I said, uh, your
daughters and you need to support them. We've supported you
all these years.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Time for the.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
Time for you to come on our And it was
great and I think it'll be good.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
It was so funny. Yeah, Da. It was really.
Speaker 5 (30:01):
Sweet to share a screen with him because I've never
been on camera with him, but I've always seen him
on camera, you know, So it was a really sweet moment.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
That is so cute.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Like I have to say, when my kids were little
when we started the show, my youngest.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Was nine months old. I remember, is that crazy?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Fourteen fourteen.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I know it's insane, but the twins were seven and
then Kat was born. He was nine months.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
But anyway, we have now these videos that I never
would have had with the kids saying like funny things
or whatever it was, and it's cool. But now you
have this cool you know, videos of you with your
mom and with your sisters and with your dad.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
I mean, I think that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I know you can't, it's really those are lovely moments
to have too.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Did anything happen that you regret, No, that you wish
hadn't been shown.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
No, you feel really balanced about that day. That's so good. Yeah,
so it was a positive because.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It was a positive experience.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
And I'm so grateful that we're getting such a positive
reaction because you don't know people are gonna like your
show or not.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
No, people seem to love it.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, no, thank you, And it's it's nice. She's so
many people have reached out to Lola. What an inspiration
she is for people. Yeah, it's like and that's the
thing that I told her. You know, there is a lot,
obviously with social media that can be negative, but I
try to tell the girls to focus on just the
positive and there's a lot of good that can come
(31:33):
out of it of you know, trying to help other
people do certain things or see something in us or
you know, we're just at the end of the day
like you too. I'm a mom navigating my family, and
you and Terry are parents navigating your family too, And
a lot of people can relate to certain situations that
you guys deal with.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
I know that.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I mean, I think that's the beauty of these platforms.
I think is that you start conversations and other people's
face emilies, and people see either that they're not alone
or you know how to handle different situations.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
That's my favorite part.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Yeah, because it doesn't matter how much money someone may
have or how much fame.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
The issues are the same.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
At the end of the day, you have a lot
of issues that a lot of other people can relate to.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yeah, it's great. So would you do Will you do
it again?
Speaker 4 (32:26):
We'll see if we get picked up.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
If it gets picked up, we'll see would.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
You do it again?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yes? I would.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
There's a butt a comma.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I would do it again. I think now I know
what to expect.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I I have.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Built a little bit more of a backbone I've had
to because I think before, like before I did it,
I was worried because I do I'm very sensitive and
so but I think maybe that way I try to
like be like, oh, I shouldn't be that sensitive to people,
but I just think that's who I am. And so
(33:07):
I was nervous going into it in the beginning because
I struggle with so many things mental health related. So
I was like, I don't want I hope this doesn't
like make me just get into a bad headspace. But
after hearing the encouragement about my faith, it's so way
more than a different reaction than I expected. And so
(33:29):
because I was thinking I was talking, I called her
so many times before the show came out, and I
was like, I'm so.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Worried about this.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
I'm so scared. I'm gonna have to like shut my
phone off for a.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Month or something. That was my plan.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
But then the encouragement showed me that being myself and
being who I am really you know, can help people
and being real on camera with what you go through.
So I would go into it again because I have
so many people reaching out to me saying that I
make them want to follow Jeesus or I make them
know it's okay to not always look glamor whatever it is.
(34:05):
You know, it's just it's really sweet.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
So what do your friends think about it? They don't
watch it.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
It's so funny. None of my friends have seen it,
and I asked them, like, only one of my friends, Sarah,
her whole family. They put it on every Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
And they all watch it together.
Speaker 5 (34:21):
She's like, yeah, she's like my sister.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
She loves it.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
She thinks it's so funny.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
I just like I told my friends they can watch it.
I think they think that I'm embarrassed if they watch it. Nick,
my one best guy friend, he won't watch it.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
He was in the scene.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I'm like, please watch it. It's so funny because we
were making tacos. But it was such an awkward scene.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
It was so awkward.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
I didn't even realize it was that awkward till I
watched it back and I was like, oh my, like
I Sammy because the way that they cut it was
like we were making tacos and Sammy's getting ready for
like a rave or something.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, the juxtaposition. Yeah, And I was like, oh my gosh,
because it was so awkward.
Speaker 5 (35:02):
I know what to say, because Nick got a little
like uncomfortable on camera and I was like, oh, my gosh, guys,
look at this new strainer and Sammy's like, my gosh,
look at my outfit like it's so she wasn't really
wearing what was the scene like? It was so funny
much much so it was funny, but Nick won't watch it.
I don't.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
So you did that episode then, yes, good, Sarah, Well
only that clip, Sarah.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Sarah sent it to you.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
You know, a great thing too, with the girls doing
this that I told them they've always lived in the
shadow of Denise, which was in Charlie Sheen.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Now they have that.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Yeah, so it's been a nice thing for them to
have their own voice and to have people start getting
to know them as adults as you know them.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
I was going to ask you, Ola, because Sammy has
made a name first off in the last few years,
but the only things and everything, and she's like a
big influencer. People know her, I mean, to make she
gets recognized out in public.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I think she does.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
But have you now started getting recognized?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean, I know you recognize it if you're with
one of your parents obviously they know you're their child,
But now that you're on this show, are you getting
recognized in your own right?
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I got.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
The first time I got recognized was when I went
to Arizona to film a podcast about Jesus and this
woman like I had just started my podcast. I uploaded
one video sharing my testimony, and this woman came up
to me, almost in tears, and she was like, oh
my gosh, I just saw your testimony and like was
so encouraging. She was like, I'm so I can't believe
(36:35):
you're right here. I was like, that's so crazy from
something I like just posted. I haven't gotten recognized from
the show yet, though you did.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
You signed your first autographs.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
I was in the building.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
She already walked out, and I was like, I wish
I had my phone to record her.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Was so cute. I guess I did.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Again, I did get recognized.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
A couple of people asked to take a photo with me,
and I thought they weren't like talking to Sam, and
they're like, no, I really want a photo with you.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
I was like, oh, are you sure? It's so sweet?
Do you like that? I think it's really sweet.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
It's very humbling because I'm just like, who am I
to like take a photo.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
I don't know. It's very strange. I have to say,
I'm curious how you feel about this too.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
But like back in the day, we were just scripted actresses.
It was different, right, people would come up to you
and to be like, oh I love your show or
I love your character, that kind of thing. But now
they know you, they know you, they know you, and
so when they come up to you, they've they've been
in your home and they feel like you are friends
(37:45):
and you've affected their lives in some way. I mean,
it's lovely, but it's it is humbling, but it's also
it's so bizarre as it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Is because they know a lot and they actually think
they know more sometimes about certain things, and so true,
you know, it's that fine line.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
It is different.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, it's very different, especially the housewife thing. That thing
is just blown up such it's so much bigger now
than it ever.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Was, really bigger.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
It's crazy. Oh, I love that you're getting recognized.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
It's so sweet.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
The autograph was really sweet. I felt so bad because
they like were rushing me out, so I wrote my
name is so bad, But I drew him a heart because.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Older gentleman because mostly people want photos.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
He was older. It was older.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
It was like a whiteboard.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
Though.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
I was like, how is this gonna How are you
going to keep this? Because I use some like a
high what is it a sharper on a whiteboard?
Speaker 2 (38:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
They have a way of long time from the days
to sit there inside with those little index cards.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That's so crazy, it's so fun. So we think maybe
we might do this again. It's on the day we.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Have to see if people like us enough to have
us back again.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Would you ever go back to Housewives?
Speaker 4 (39:06):
I would?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
You would?
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah? I would?
Speaker 2 (39:09):
All right, I love that. All right, you heard it
here first.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
Who knows door is always you.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Know, I'm close to a lot of the women on
the show, so that would make sense, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, But you've been back a little bit, You've done
some little.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Bit appearances, and I've become I'm sure like with you
become friends with women from some of the others.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Isn't that so crazy? I always say it's like a sorority.
That's why I don't watch the other shows because I
don't want to know, right, I just want to like,
you meet people and you're like, oh, this.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Is and you catch up on real life stuff. Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
All right, well, I'm so happy for both of you,
for the whole family. Congratulations on all the success.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
I'm gonna, you.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Know, gonna cross my fingers for a second season. Let's
tell everyone I to find you on social and how
to of everyone in the name of your podcast.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
So sweet.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
My podcast is called Heavenly Bonded. And then my Instagram
is just low Lachine, so yeah, and.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Your social Denise Richards there.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
It is much Thank you so much,
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