June 5, 2025 • 41 mins
Happy Pride from your friends at Let's Talk! It's been a big week in the world of Heather Dubrow! Heather shares all the festivities from Kat's high school graduation PLUS Heather's first West Hollywood Pride event with Sutton Stracke and Cara Delevingne! PLUS: A cameo from Dr. Terry Dubrow!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Let's talk with Heather de bros starts now. Hi, everybody,
welcome back. I'm sorry I missed you all last week.
It's been I'm so exhausted. I don't know about any
of you, especially my mom friends out there this end.
This is what happens when you're a mother. I just
want to explain this. All year, the all school year,
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you're like, oh, this school sold. You know, the car
pooling and the after school activities and the homework and
it's such a drug. I can't wait for summer. And
then I'm going to tell you the universal fu summer
actually arrives and you know what, they're not scheduled. They're
driving me crazy. These camps are only three hours. When
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does school start again? That is what mothers do all
year round anyway. So we're like in the end of
the school year and all my kids are at different
So Nikki is done with school and he's now working.
He has an internship in hospitality at this very cool
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group and loving it. So he's doing that. Max is
working in a law firm downtown and she's loving that.
And Kat is doing nothing because she just graduated, which
I will tell you about. She's doing nothing. And an
ace is still in school.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Is it okay for kids to do nothing these days?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I think when you work your ass off for all
these years and you get into college or wherever it is,
whether it's you know, community college, you know, a four
year college, an Ivy League college, you go into the Marines,
you go like wherever you're going into. These kids work
their asses off for their next steps, or even if
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they're going right into the workforce, it's time for them
to have a moment because I'm going to tell you
why this is it. This is the last moment. If
you're going into let's just we'll use the four year
college as an example. In between your freshman software's off
for junior, junior year, you're expected to do something, get
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an internship, do this, do that, tickets to class. You know,
you're expected to do things. There's no more summer off.
That's not a thing anymore. And if you're going right
into the workforce, then you're done. Now you're a worker,
right you don't get a summer off anymore. So, And
if you're going into the military, you're being deployed. Is
at a certain time we're going to boot camp from
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calling these things correctly you're going to do. But there's
you know, this is it. This is the last time
these kids get to relax, and as far I am
all here for it. I don't think they should be
doing anything other than going to the beach, hanging out
with their friends, you know, sleeping in why not. So anyway,
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so Ace is still he still has a couple more
days of school and then he's unleashed for the summer
and we'll see what's going to go on there. But
I wanted to tell you about Kat's graduation. You know,
it's interesting because we only moved back to La a
couple of years ago, so she's only been at the
school for two years. But I have to say, you know,
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she's made such incredible friends and connections. And when she
had the prom a few weeks ago, we did a
pre prom party and you know, lots of kids were
there and their parents and it's just I cannot tell
you what a lovely group. This is all very different,
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very diverse group of kids and just like great, great kids,
and it's just been fun getting to know them in
this you know, in the eleventh hour of verizoncal experience.
But anyway, so what happened was my mom and my
aunt and my uncle all came in. Graduation was on
Friday morning, so they came in Thursday and we went
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out and a meal, and then Friday was the day.
And poor cat got so sick. I mean not to
be Tami, and she will kill me for telling the stories.
You do not use this as a clip, Steve. But
like ob like six six sick out both, I mean bad.
She was so sick all night and I was like,
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oh my god, how is she ever going to walk
in graduation? She obviously had food poisoning because it was
a definite, like twelve hour thing. But man, this poor
child and we're giving her electrolytes and things, and you know,
oh she was poor, my poor child.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Anyway, how did she what meal did she consume with
the family where she contracted food?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
She wasn't with us. We had dinner with the elders,
as my son Niki Golson, we had dinner with the
elders alone and not with the kids because they were
about to have a lot of family time and you know,
you have to know your limits with your children, so
we didn't, so we went out with them alone. She
was out with friends somewhere, and I think it was
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a sushi place, and it could have been in all
you could eat sushi place, but she rallied, so she
gets up. I wake her up at five forty five
in the morning. She had to be there at eight
o'clock and she wanted to get her hair blown dry.
And of course, I mean, she was so sick the
night before that I don't even know she'd lift a
blow dryer, and she was scared to eat, so she
wasn't eating anything and she was just sipping gatorade. And
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so the hairdresser came over. I woke her up five
forty five, went to the upstairs apartment. She was sitting
getting her hair done, and she says to me, Oh,
I didn't have time to bedazzle my cap. Now I
didn't know they did this in high school. In college.
When I graduated college, we all put things on our
caps because I graduated from Syracuse, and it was so
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huge that you wanted your family to be able to
find you in the stands, so they would look down
on all the graduates and they could see on your cap,
your name, your something, you know, whatever it was. So
it was really fun to do. But I didn't know
high school kids did this. So it's now six o'clock
in the morning, and I'm like, okay, So I sat
there while she got her hair blown dry, and I'd
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be dazzled. I mean, I'm just totally happy to do it.
I would have preferred not doing it at six am.
Totally happy to do it. And I didn't have any
of the right tools with me, and I posted it
and people started saying to me, you need a candle
because you take these little these little like rainstones, and
you have to dip them in the glue or put
the glue on the cap and then pick up the
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rhinestone and stick it in the glue. So usually if
you have a piece of wax or a crayon or
a candle, it's easy. You just touch the rhine stone
and you could transfer it. I did not have any
of that. I had one big fat candle and it
didn't work. I tried to cut a piece off the candle.
That didn't work, so I literally just stuck my finger
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on the glue and went It was a mess, but
it looked Had you ever been dazzled something before?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, four kids, of course I've been dazzled I've done everything.
I've made poster boards, I've been dazzled, I've sewn costumes,
I've done makeup, I've done hair. I remember the one
time Max said to me, can you make my hair
look like a bow? Like her actual hair? And I
was like, okay. Thankfully YouTube was around then, and so
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I looked it up and watched a video and I
was like, okay, here we go and did that for her.
And yeah. But you know, it's funny when you do
stuff like that, you feel so accomplished, You really feel
like you know you've done right. So anyway, so and
it made me happy just to hang out with Kats
So while she was getting her hair done and distract
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her a little bit, make sure she's feeling okay. So
I be dazzled the thing. She had her hair blown dry,
and man, she rally put her dress on and all
of a sudden, she looked like a million bucks. And
I don't know if you remember me telling the story
the night before. So she's sick. She doesn't have a dress.
She needs a white dress. All the girls are wearing
white dresses. I've been asking her about this for weeks.
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She said she had a dress, but now she said
that dress doesn't fit properly. So now I ran to
Nordstrum bought two different dresses. Were back. Anyways, she ended
up wearing the original dress she had, as one does,
and she looked fantastic. She slapped on her makeup and
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got herself together and she just looked terrific. So she
went over to the school. They had to be there earlier,
so they went over at They had to be there
at eight and it started at ten, and so you know,
the rest of us got dressed, went over there, and
they do this thing with parents. So they have tents
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everywhere for heat, you know, to cover the sun, except
in the middle, because if you put a tent over
the middle, then you can't see the stage. The problem
is all the graduates and the surrence because they saved
seats just for the parents or in the sun. So
we go that. We went and found our seats and
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they were I mean literally behind the tallest people ever
humanly created. There was no seeing anyone. So I said
forget it, and we sat over at the one of
the side tents with the other with our other kids
and the elders, and we sat over there in the
shade which was so much nicer. We actually kind of
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had a perfect view, probably ten rows back, but you
could see right to the corner. It was great. So
we sat there and you know, I couldn't believe she survived,
especially it was like eighty degrees. It was so hot
in the sun. But she survived. And then you know,
the people spoke, and people played music and did performances,
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and the head of schools spoke and all those things.
I thought I was going to be a lot more
emotional than I was, because leading up to the graduation,
every time I thought about it, I would start to cry,
Like I couldn't even talk about it without crying. But
I didn't feel like that while I was sitting there.
I just felt just really proud of her and just
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I don't know, it was just like a nice day,
Like the whole weekend was so easy and nice. It
was just great. So she walked, she graduated. We took
pictures afterwards, and it's funny, you know, and I've told
you guys this before, like she all my kids are
so different, and she doesn't like a big hooplah. Like
there were some families there that had the kids' faces
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on popsicle sticks, you know, in large so that they
could raise them up or use them as a mask.
I did that for Max s Nikki. I did not
do that for Cat because I knew she hate that. Okay,
so you have yeah, you have to know your audience,
you know, in this respect. So I didn't do that
for her.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But what if we did that for you every week
when you show up to do the podcast. We just
had heather to brow faces on sticks just to cheer
you on behind the glass every time you were doing
an episode.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I would love that. I think that'd be epic.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh, I just dug myself up a hole in there?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Why have you never done that before? All?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Right, come on, st get to work every week.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Did I bought her a lay? Did we talk about
the lays already?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So when you graduate, when you graduate from anything in California,
I don't know if this is a Los Angeles thing
or just a California thing. People wear lays. So I
am from New York. I didn't know about this. And
I remember when the twins were graduating eighth grade, I
got them lays, and I remember I told Max I'm
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gonna get you a lay. She's like, don't do that
no one's going to get that. I went, okay, So
I bought it anyway because I'm not stupid. And we
were sitting in the audience of the eighth grade graduation
and Max texted me and goes, did you get me
a lay? And I was like yes, why, She's like,
could you bring it back here? Because all the other
kids had lays? Thank you? I thought, what's the worst
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case scenario, I'll give it to another child. Anyways, So
when it came to Kat, I bought the lay and
I just kept it on the side. And as it
turned out, the school bought all the kids lays, but
they were kind of like smally ones, so this was
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like kind of bigger, and I say, anybody, I gave
it to Raftors. But I have to say when they
walked in, the only time I got emotional, and I'll
get emotional saying it now is when they play what
is it called pomp and Circumstance? Is that the name
of the graduation music?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, so see I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
They start playing that and they all start walking and
as soon as they see Kat is it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Teather Debrouh is currently losing it. For those who cannot
see her right now listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, and then yeah, because it was so sweet and like,
she's such a good kid, She's worked so hard anyway,
So then she goes to sit down and then I
was fine, and then I was totally like just good, happy.
And then what was really funny is that the other
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five of us in the family were on a group
chat basically shit talking. Everything that happened at the graduation
of it was so funny. Anyway. I didn't want Cat,
but I didn't make it. I think maximated, but she
put Cat on it, which I was glad because I
didn't want her to be upset she saw it. But
it was really funny anyway. So we got through the
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whole ceremony, we took pictures and I gave her the
chunkier leg and she was so happy. It was so cute.
And then we went over to the bel Air Hotel
and that's where I had planned her lunch, and I
kind of it was just like one little thing. Right
when we walked into the table is they had the
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cake there, and there were other families from the school
that were doing their lunch there. But if you could
imagine me setting up a graduation lunch. There was a
beautiful tablecloth, I had the chairs changed out, there was
flowers on the table, there was alose kind of special things,
and then the cake was there and she was like
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freaking out, like you had embarrassed for a second. She's like,
oh my god, mom, this is too much. Is too much.
I'm like, it's going to be fine. And I just
walked over and go, can you take the cake away
please and bring it back later. So they took the
cake away and we sat down and she was totally fine,
and she thanked me, and she thanked me later. She
loved it because it was pretty simple. I didn't go
crazy like when Maxiiniki graduated high school. We did a
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big to do. I mean there was a photo op
and a thing and a thing even though it was
just a family, like I kind of over the top,
but with Kat and you know, your audience, it was
just it was at the Beller Hotel in their outdoor area,
and it really just looked like a pretty table scape,
you know what I mean. It was just really beautiful.
I'll post pictures I did, but I'll repost it, but
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just pretty flowers and tablecloth all it, and so I
wanted to do something special for her instead of just
putting the menu on the table. So what we did
was because she's a film maker and a film student.
Remember the old fashioned looking scripts for those of you
who don't know what they look like. It's basically an
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eight x ten stack of papers that are connected. They
have three holes, old hunch and then they take these
gold fasteners they're called brads, and they're like a circle
with a point and you push it through the hole
and you bend the points when you get through the
paper and it holds it together. So instead of binding
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a book, you use these fasteners, these brands. So what
we did was we did that and we made it
look like a script. So on the front it was
like Kat's graduation. We put the date at the bottom
as if you know, that was the date the script
was written.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And then we for the.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
First page it said cast of characters, cast of cast
said cast back, and look said cast and it had
all of us whoever was there and what their role was,
you know, grandmother, mother and all that. And then in
the body of it, first there was the menu and
then there was notes from everyone like it was all
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interst First it wasn't kind of in a row, but
interspersed in this full script, there were notes from everyone
at the lunch. There was a note from her film teacher.
There were photos of her. At the end of each
note there was specific like at the end of my note,
there were pictures of me and her together. The end
of you know, Nikki's note, there were pictures of Nikki
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and her together. And then other ages had, you know,
pictures of her growing up and different phases of her
life for musical theater phase and her penguin phase and
her saved the Hector Dolphin phase, all of her different things,
and pictures of movie posters that are like her favorite movies,
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and you know, all kinds of things like that. So
it made it really personal but quiet, not over the top.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Put any red lines through the script at any point
in time.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
She did not, and she I also I also I
put in a few pages from different scripts that she
had written.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Oh that's cute also.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And then on each script were three pencils tied together
with everyone's names on them. So that was like your
seating card, because usually you'd have a pencil when you
sit down at a table read For all of it,
that you don't know when you do. Like let's say
a sitcom, you get there the first day and you
will sit around a huge table or they put tables
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together in a U shape, and everyone sits there and
there's a script and a pencil and you read the script.
Writers are there, the network's there, the actors are there,
and you read the script the whole thing. Someone reached
the stage directions and you read it as if you're
performing it, and that's how they get their first round
of notes and whatever. So while you're doing the script,
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you take your pencil and you make notes yourself so
that you can remember later. And so I had pencils
with everyone's name. Actually, here's one right now. I'm actually
I was just using it.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh what's your name on it?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
A pencil?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Heather you Row.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, it's like a fun keepsake. I love when the
place cards could be something that someone could take home.
And the script was fun. So so yeah, so like,
oh my god, Like ten minutes into the lunch, Cat
was like, I don't know, Mom, I don't know if
I can sit here and eat, I go listen. You
made it through graduation. That was the important part. If
you don't feel well, but she rallied. She was great,
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and she was so cute and so thankful and just
gave a you know, a quick toast because again I
know your audience, and it would I have to say,
everyone was on their a game. Ever at the table
was great. Everyone was fun and lively and happy to
be there. Service was odd that day. Other than that,
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it was kind of perfect. And then they brought the
cake out at the end, and I did a cake.
So Cat's so funny when cat Kat loves cake. And
there was a place in Dana Point down by where
we used to live, called All about the Cake. They
make the best cakes, not sponsored, highly recommend getting.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
A cake from that. That's where we went for our cake,
actually for our wedding. You did you know we went
to that same spot that's actually their cake.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Did you do a cake tasting?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yes, we drove. We drove down like a month or
two ago. They had some great options down there.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
They have the best cake. But here's the best part.
I mean, they really their cake is phenomenal. When you
do a cake tasting for a wedding, you sit there
and they basically bring out chunks of cake like cubes,
red velvet vanilla, chocolate, marble, whatever it is. And then
they have all kinds of fillings and all kinds of
fond and frostings whatever, and they take a fork and
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they go would you like You go, oh, I'm a
chocolate They go great, So they stick the fork in
the white cube and then they go chocolate and butter
cream and they go, try this, Okay, I'll love this,
not that Okay, great, And you sit there for two
hours and you taste everything and it's so fun. Katamina
loves this process so much. Every year for her birthday
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when we lived in Orange County, we would get our
cake from there. Every year we'd go in, they would
let her do a full cake tasting, and one hundred
out of one hundred percent of the time she chose
the same cake and the same flavor. Vanilla cake, white
cake with lemon lemon curd. Wait, lemon, what is it?
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Lemon curd? And and verbina? Yeah, what's is verbena? Lemon?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
A lemon? It's a plant.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, it's like look lemon verbena curd situation, and uh,
there's a there's something else in there or white. So
I don't know why I'm totally forgetting, but she always
picks the same thing, and I love it for her,
and so we go. We I've had so many cakes
made by All About the Cake because after someone broke
the bow off the cake, I needed a new place,
so it was started going there and that's where we've
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always gone anyway. So I got a company in La
to do it, and I say, they did a gorgeous,
gorgeous job. It wasn't the same as All About, but
it was beautiful. They did a great job. And they
did that flavor that she loves, and it's gonna bug
me that I can't think of the flavor now, but anyway,
it's lemon and vanilla basically. And so I had them
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do a film canister with film, like old fashioned film
wrapped around the cake. It was super cool and it
was just it was so great. Everyone gave her presents
and she was just it was just phenomenal. I can't
tell you how lovely it was. And then the next
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day it was just nice outside and it was so funny.
So my mom and aunt came over and they're both
My mom used to be a designer. Years ago, they
had a business together, but my mom hasn't done it years.
My aunt is still a big designer in New York,
and I said, I go, listen, I want you to
come over and see the curtains I just did because
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I'm redoing my great room. I go, but I just
want to tell you something. They don't care if you
like them. All you're going to do is you're going
to come over and you're going to say how great
they are because they were a fortune and I love
them and I don't. It's done, so I don't want
to hear about it. And they're both like, of course,
and they were great. They came over and I actually
really think they did like it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Good on you for setting boundaries there. However, the expectations
are you're gonna like it and they deliver it on
it to you.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well, I will tell you full disclosure. In the past,
I would have liked to set my mother off pavailiar
and be passive aggressive about it and just as soon
as she was gonna hate them and fight with her
about it later. But I would really like to think
that I am evolving as a person, and so I
was very proud of myself. I did set boundaries. They
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did come over it. They loved my curtains and my
new game table that I'm obsessed with from this Italian
company that they flow over and put together and it's
so modern and cool and I love it. I'm going
to show you. I'm going to do a big reveal
on social.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
What kind of games like a legit game table or
I always have a.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Game table in my house. Sometimes it's in our primary bedroom,
sometimes it's in the living room, but we always have
a game table. This one you can flip the top.
It's really cool. It's like it's glass and leather and
swede and the top is backammon, but you can flip
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it for a checker's chest.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Vibe cool. I just I literally just learned how to
play that game in this past weekend. It's the best,
really kind of It takes you gotta be relatively good
at maths and blending ahead, I think, but it's.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
A great game. And I taught Ace. Now he kicks
my ass. I can't even play him anymore. He gammoned
me the other day. I just he's too good. Yeah.
So anyway, so they came over, they saw everything I showed,
and then I was emboldened by how much they liked
my curtains. So I went so far as to show
them the swatches of everything else that's coming in and
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they liked it, so we did that, and then that
night we had a dinner at Craig's and my sister
and her husband and her two boys were there also,
so it was like the whole family. I not my cousinself,
but you know my family that's in California. So we
all went to Craigs and it was I mean, I
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know I keep saying great, but I have to tell
you it was just lovely, like it just all everyone
was happy everyone, you know, because families are cobligated, and
sometimes someone's on a good mood, or someone's this or
someone's that. But it was just a beautiful weekend. I
think my take home is, look, I know I've said
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this before, but sometimes you get great events like this,
and sometimes you don't. And that's why when it's really
good and it works, you have got to embrace it.
You've got to celebrate it. But I want to give
some advice, and this is for my producers Stephen Gaby
as well, because they're about to get married Steve in
particular this weekend.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yes, as she waves a pencil at us over zoom.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Right, waving a pencil. Listen to me. Things are going
to go wrong at these events. You know, the flowers
are their own color, or the table's not ready, or
someone's super sick. The nyper wore government.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Of the wedding.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
But I mean, like, things happen and it's okay because
it all just becomes part of the story and you
have to remember what the event is actually about. That's
why I said to Katl like, of course, I'm glad
she stayed for the whole lunch, and I'm glad she
felt better. But if she'd had to go, the important
part of this day was her experiencing her graduation walk
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right as her parent, I got to experience watching her
do that. But having a lunch or a celebration whatever,
that's icing on the cake, right, that's not really the purpose.
The purpose is to that experience of why you're there.
So you have to know that things are going to happen,
and you got to roll with them, and you have
to let it go and not let it upset you.
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You could plan as much as you want, but there's
just you know what should happens, and you can't plan everything,
and you should tell your fiance.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That I do have to say something because I feel
like the last couple family things you've had and they
have gone relatively well, if not very well. I feel
like you've mastered some sort of family to solo time
ratio out and I think that's really the trick. So
do you do you know what the balance is of
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like this is when we all hang out and then
like everybody go away to your hotel room or your
room and then let's come back. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I am good at time management, and I also know
the personalities I'm dealing with, right, So if it's just
our nuclear family, maybe that's the best way to set
this up with our nuclear family. I know, you know,
if we're going to work, we're going on a trip
for five nights. I do not expect everyone to go
(27:55):
out to dinner five nights in a row. They want
to come great, But if they don't, that's okay too. Now,
if you're at a particular place, like when Nicki and
Ace and Terry and I went to Courshable, they came
out every night with us, we had a go a
great time. But when it's if it's the six of
us and we're let's say it's a beach vacation or something,
or maybe you're going to do like a big lunch
(28:17):
out or something like that. I don't expect two big
meals all together or k I just try to look
at the schedule and see what makes sense. The other
thing I do, honestly is if we're on a vacation,
I make a reservation for everyone, and I adjusted accordingly,
and I don't make everyone go to something if they
don't want to. But when it comes to events like this,
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you're right. I planned it out. So we had Thursday night,
Friday night, Saturday night, and I have the three elders
in town. So Thursday night, Terry and I went out
with the elders. Now, as it turned out, NICKI came
with us, but he didn't have to. He was not obligated,
but he decided to come with us. So we went
out Thursday night. Friday was the graduation, which was a
(29:05):
morning event, and we all had lunch together. So I
told everyone to do their own thing for Friday night
because that would have been too much.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Did you do anything in the morning together? Though it
was the graduation, we like like, did you guys like
meet up and the car pull together. Did you guys
all meet at We had.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Two separate cards, but we had to leave our They
had to leave their hotel and I had to leave
the house at eight ten. So it wasn't like, let's
meet at seven am for coffee like that, you know.
And I was getting cat ready and be dazzling and
getting myself ready and so no. But I mean that's
the beginning of the day. So eight fifteen, we were
in the cars and we were together till lunch was
(29:45):
over at like three o'clock. So it was like a
nice long day. Cut your losses, people, we're not seeing
each other tonight. You go do your thing. We're going
to do our thing. And you know, that was enough.
And then the next day I knew we had this
big dinner Saturday night, so I did not plan a lunch.
My uncle wanted to sit out by the pool, Terry
(30:07):
was at the gym. When you know, everyone did their
own thing. I hung out with my mom and aunt
for a bit, talked about curtains, spent a little time
with them, but they were happy doing their own thing,
going here there, whatever, And then we met up that night.
It's all it is about that balance.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Is your would you say your family, like your elders,
the kids, everything are they all pretty individual? People are
kind of dependent a little bit, like when they're fine
going to do a thing on their own. It sounds
like obviously like Terry and and your aunt and your
mom are kind of in that boat.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
But yeah, everyone's fine. Everyone's fine doing something on their
own for sure. Hi, Annie, So Terry's here. I can't
tell you where he just came back from, but it's
very exciting and we'll tell you I don't know soon,
but we're going on a very exciting trip that we'll
(31:04):
tell you about when we get back. I'm a bit
concerned about it. There's reasons to be concerned, there are,
but well, it's going to go great. And why did
they bring up the trip, because how they were saying,
they were commending me on how I schedule the family
so that it's not too much togetherness, you know what
I mean. So people start getting irritated. So anyway, so
(31:25):
we are going on Saturday on this trip, and so
we're going out with the kids on Friday night, and
it will serve one of two purposes. Either it's so great.
We had this really great moment with them before we go,
or they'll be so irritating. We're just going to be
so happy we won't miss them. Yeah, all right, So
(31:52):
the graduation was fantastic. Cat's feeling much better and she's
bumming around this summer and then and this past Sunday,
and then Terry and I had to fly to Idaho
for a night because you know, we've got some holdings
in Idaho, so we had to fly up to Idaho.
We literally spent twenty four hours in Idaho. It was
(32:13):
so fond though, and the Bellows were there and there
was a barbecue and it was Memorial Day. It was great.
We don't have an ace king with us and brought
a friend, so it was so fun. We had a
great time together.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
How do you feel about lake activities like going out
on the boat on a lake and like wakeboarding, living water?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I like it. I've done those things. I'm sort
of you know, I'm in the stage of my life
where I don't want to get hurt, and so I'm
every summer I'm torn. I don't want my kids to
not see me as someone that does things, because I've
done it all with them, you know, surfing and swimming,
and ziploding and like all the things. But now I
(32:55):
don't really want to do those things anymore, and I
wrestle with Oh. I don't want them to think of
me as someone that just sits on the boat. But honestly,
I don't want to do it anymore. So I kind
of sit on the boat and drink champagne and they
go wake surfing and Whatnot's fun, though, I love it.
The lake is gorgeous. I love it so pretty there.
The air is so nice.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I would say, though, I think doing a boat activity
like that, like being towed behind the boat, is probably
one of the safer activities because, like I've never been.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
They fuck with you on the boat and then they
fly off the floating and you know I've been downs.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Just let go, you can, you can just let go
and then sink into the water.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Venom in the water. Then a boat runs over. God
for anyway, Oh, so I want. I know we're going
to run out of time. So I wanted to tell
you about Pride. Yes, Pride was fabulous. This was my
first time ever being at the West Hollywood Pride Parade
(33:56):
and it was a ball. Last Oh my gosh, Sutton
and I Sutton Strack and I. We did we wrote together.
It was so funny. We had so much fun. We
left so much. She had contacted me a while ago
and asked if I wanted to run. She's got this
Ford pickup truck so cute. She's like, well, ride in
(34:18):
the back. I'll put a bench there. It'll be great.
And I was like, all right, great. So you know,
I've been working with the Trevor Project a lot, and
I said, can we you know, Honor the Trevor Project
And she said absolutely. And she's got her brand, Sutton Brands.
And by the way, if you want to go shop
on Sutton Brands, you can go to the Sutton Stracks
(34:41):
Instagram and there's a link there. We'll try to get
a link to to put up and proceeds are going
to the Trevor Project this month and she made some
really great pride and merge. So anyway, so we agreed
to do this thing. I bought a dress online, this rainbow,
you know, crazy dress, so cute. They're on some sneakers
(35:06):
and Sutton picked me up and we got in the
pickup dark. It was so funny. I mean, first of all,
it was so hot outside. Oh my Lord so hot,
and so we had to wait on a side street
for I don't know, forty five minutes so we could
get going because they line up the cars and there.
It's quite an operation they have going on for Pride.
(35:28):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
And the day did you have to get there?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Not that early? The parades started at noon and we
were there by like eleven thirty, but we didn't get
going in our car. We were sitting there till probably
twelve forty five. Because there's one hundred and fifteen vehicles, floats,
attractions in the parade. Oh wow, and we were seventy one.
(35:56):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Okay, yeah, you had to wait, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
But it was one I mean, United Airlines was lined
up next to us, ready to go. Mattel the Toy
Company was lined up behind us. There was this great
organization Free Mom Hugs that are just like a group
of moms that will just give people hugs that you know,
(36:21):
don't have support. It was really sweet and so beautiful
and so anyway, so and she got me at Tiara
and got me like a love tir, which is so nice.
And then we got in the thing and we started moving.
Finally we were about to turn on Santa Monica Boulevard
(36:41):
to get into the parade, and sitting I said, of
the bathroom, and there's this like line of porter potties
just now hop out of the back of the truck.
They lifted out, run across the street, get in the
porter potty and totally filmed the whole thing and and
come back. And that I was hammeling out total camel.
(37:02):
It was not peg because once you break the seal,
you're screwed. So anyway, so I was in the back
of the truck and we ran, we rode in the parade,
and I bought a thousand orange beads because that's the
Trevor Project, which if you know anything about the Trevor Project,
which we've talked about, it's for kids in crisis. It's
a suicide hotline and every forty five seconds on an
(37:26):
LGBTQ plus you tries to commit suicide. So it's really
important that we support the Trevor Project because they're dealing
with kids at the front line. So we had signs
on the side that said, you know, my name is
Sutton's name and the Trevor Project, and I got a
thousand orange beads to toss out Marty Gross style, and
we rode in the parade and people, you know, yelled
(37:49):
us and waved and gave some interviews and it was
so fun. So we're going down, we're waving, we're doing
all the things. And at one point Kara Delvine was
in the parade also. She was We had seen her
go by right before we turned onto Santa Monica Boulevard
and I don't know her, but I mean like obsessed, right,
(38:10):
and I was like, oh, look, there's Kara del Avine. Whatever. Anyway,
her car broke down, this convertible she was riding and
broke down. So they had pulled over to the side
of the road and we saw her and we called
her and she jumped in our car with us and
rode with us like at the end of the parade,
and she was like, oh my god, I love you guys.
She was so cute, Oh my god, she gorgeous. Wow, stunning,
(38:35):
so nice, so stunning, and it was great. So anyway,
so then she jumped out went back to ever thing
and we were done and we were with So it
was me and Sutton and we were with a bunch
of guys and we decided to go to the Waldorf,
and you know, we didn't think, oh, we should go
back in the cab of the car. Let's just stay
(38:57):
on this unfeathered sofa that's in the back hickup truck.
Like what are we in high school talk about not
wanting to do dangerous things anymore? And literally road like
that from West Hollywood to the Waldorf, which is like
at the tip of Beverly Hills. It's so stupid Terry thinking. Wow, yes,
(39:19):
I wasn't thinking. But it was really fun. And then
we went up to the you know, the rooftop of
the Waldorf in our beautiful Pride outfits and had a
great meal and it was so so fun. So everyone
that was with us, Jeremy, Tim, Brian Sutton, I love you.
That was so fun. We had such a great time,
and I just want to say it was it was
(39:40):
such a beautiful experience. It was so great seeing everyone's
you know, T shirts and flags and gear get up
and with their kids there and it was so it
was just a beautiful day. And I just want to
thank everyone that came out, and then everyone that's supporting Pride.
(40:02):
I want to give a shout out to the Fairmont
Hotel that's near where I live. That's you know, they
do these pretty lights on top of that hotel. It's
like this, it's an historical landmark. It's this curved hotel
and right now they have a full on rainbow going
around the hotel and it's just amazing. And thanks to
(40:22):
all the big corporations that came out, like I was saying,
United at hotel and all these places. It's just it's
really beautiful to see the ally ship, especially this year,
especially when we need it. So having said that, I
am going on Vicky Sean with Terry and some other couples,
I may drip some content to you on social, so
(40:45):
make sure you're following me at Heather du Brow and
I will give you the whole rundown when I get back,
I promise. But in the meantime, next couple of weeks,
we're going to be running some best ofs, So if
there's anything in particul here you want to hear, let
me know and we'll pull those up. And I hope
everyone just has a great couple of weeks and I'll
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see you when I get them.
Let's talk with Heather de bros starts now. Hi, everybody,
welcome back. I'm sorry I missed you all last week.
It's been I'm so exhausted. I don't know about any
of you, especially my mom friends out there this end.
This is what happens when you're a mother. I just
want to explain this. All year, the all school year,
(00:25):
you're like, oh, this school sold. You know, the car
pooling and the after school activities and the homework and
it's such a drug. I can't wait for summer. And
then I'm going to tell you the universal fu summer
actually arrives and you know what, they're not scheduled. They're
driving me crazy. These camps are only three hours. When
(00:46):
does school start again? That is what mothers do all
year round anyway. So we're like in the end of
the school year and all my kids are at different
So Nikki is done with school and he's now working.
He has an internship in hospitality at this very cool
(01:08):
group and loving it. So he's doing that. Max is
working in a law firm downtown and she's loving that.
And Kat is doing nothing because she just graduated, which
I will tell you about. She's doing nothing. And an
ace is still in school.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Is it okay for kids to do nothing these days?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I think when you work your ass off for all
these years and you get into college or wherever it is,
whether it's you know, community college, you know, a four
year college, an Ivy League college, you go into the Marines,
you go like wherever you're going into. These kids work
their asses off for their next steps, or even if
(01:50):
they're going right into the workforce, it's time for them
to have a moment because I'm going to tell you
why this is it. This is the last moment. If
you're going into let's just we'll use the four year
college as an example. In between your freshman software's off
for junior, junior year, you're expected to do something, get
(02:11):
an internship, do this, do that, tickets to class. You know,
you're expected to do things. There's no more summer off.
That's not a thing anymore. And if you're going right
into the workforce, then you're done. Now you're a worker,
right you don't get a summer off anymore. So, And
if you're going into the military, you're being deployed. Is
at a certain time we're going to boot camp from
(02:34):
calling these things correctly you're going to do. But there's
you know, this is it. This is the last time
these kids get to relax, and as far I am
all here for it. I don't think they should be
doing anything other than going to the beach, hanging out
with their friends, you know, sleeping in why not. So anyway,
(02:55):
so Ace is still he still has a couple more
days of school and then he's unleashed for the summer
and we'll see what's going to go on there. But
I wanted to tell you about Kat's graduation. You know,
it's interesting because we only moved back to La a
couple of years ago, so she's only been at the
school for two years. But I have to say, you know,
(03:15):
she's made such incredible friends and connections. And when she
had the prom a few weeks ago, we did a
pre prom party and you know, lots of kids were
there and their parents and it's just I cannot tell
you what a lovely group. This is all very different,
(03:35):
very diverse group of kids and just like great, great kids,
and it's just been fun getting to know them in
this you know, in the eleventh hour of verizoncal experience.
But anyway, so what happened was my mom and my
aunt and my uncle all came in. Graduation was on
Friday morning, so they came in Thursday and we went
(03:59):
out and a meal, and then Friday was the day.
And poor cat got so sick. I mean not to
be Tami, and she will kill me for telling the stories.
You do not use this as a clip, Steve. But
like ob like six six sick out both, I mean bad.
She was so sick all night and I was like,
(04:20):
oh my god, how is she ever going to walk
in graduation? She obviously had food poisoning because it was
a definite, like twelve hour thing. But man, this poor
child and we're giving her electrolytes and things, and you know,
oh she was poor, my poor child.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Anyway, how did she what meal did she consume with
the family where she contracted food?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
She wasn't with us. We had dinner with the elders,
as my son Niki Golson, we had dinner with the
elders alone and not with the kids because they were
about to have a lot of family time and you know,
you have to know your limits with your children, so
we didn't, so we went out with them alone. She
was out with friends somewhere, and I think it was
(05:04):
a sushi place, and it could have been in all
you could eat sushi place, but she rallied, so she
gets up. I wake her up at five forty five
in the morning. She had to be there at eight
o'clock and she wanted to get her hair blown dry.
And of course, I mean, she was so sick the
night before that I don't even know she'd lift a
blow dryer, and she was scared to eat, so she
wasn't eating anything and she was just sipping gatorade. And
(05:26):
so the hairdresser came over. I woke her up five
forty five, went to the upstairs apartment. She was sitting
getting her hair done, and she says to me, Oh,
I didn't have time to bedazzle my cap. Now I
didn't know they did this in high school. In college.
When I graduated college, we all put things on our
caps because I graduated from Syracuse, and it was so
(05:48):
huge that you wanted your family to be able to
find you in the stands, so they would look down
on all the graduates and they could see on your cap,
your name, your something, you know, whatever it was. So
it was really fun to do. But I didn't know
high school kids did this. So it's now six o'clock
in the morning, and I'm like, okay, So I sat
there while she got her hair blown dry, and I'd
(06:09):
be dazzled. I mean, I'm just totally happy to do it.
I would have preferred not doing it at six am.
Totally happy to do it. And I didn't have any
of the right tools with me, and I posted it
and people started saying to me, you need a candle
because you take these little these little like rainstones, and
you have to dip them in the glue or put
the glue on the cap and then pick up the
(06:32):
rhinestone and stick it in the glue. So usually if
you have a piece of wax or a crayon or
a candle, it's easy. You just touch the rhine stone
and you could transfer it. I did not have any
of that. I had one big fat candle and it
didn't work. I tried to cut a piece off the candle.
That didn't work, so I literally just stuck my finger
(06:53):
on the glue and went It was a mess, but
it looked Had you ever been dazzled something before?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, four kids, of course I've been dazzled I've done everything.
I've made poster boards, I've been dazzled, I've sewn costumes,
I've done makeup, I've done hair. I remember the one
time Max said to me, can you make my hair
look like a bow? Like her actual hair? And I
was like, okay. Thankfully YouTube was around then, and so
(07:23):
I looked it up and watched a video and I
was like, okay, here we go and did that for her.
And yeah. But you know, it's funny when you do
stuff like that, you feel so accomplished, You really feel
like you know you've done right. So anyway, so and
it made me happy just to hang out with Kats
So while she was getting her hair done and distract
(07:44):
her a little bit, make sure she's feeling okay. So
I be dazzled the thing. She had her hair blown dry,
and man, she rally put her dress on and all
of a sudden, she looked like a million bucks. And
I don't know if you remember me telling the story
the night before. So she's sick. She doesn't have a dress.
She needs a white dress. All the girls are wearing
white dresses. I've been asking her about this for weeks.
(08:05):
She said she had a dress, but now she said
that dress doesn't fit properly. So now I ran to
Nordstrum bought two different dresses. Were back. Anyways, she ended
up wearing the original dress she had, as one does,
and she looked fantastic. She slapped on her makeup and
(08:27):
got herself together and she just looked terrific. So she
went over to the school. They had to be there earlier,
so they went over at They had to be there
at eight and it started at ten, and so you know,
the rest of us got dressed, went over there, and
they do this thing with parents. So they have tents
(08:47):
everywhere for heat, you know, to cover the sun, except
in the middle, because if you put a tent over
the middle, then you can't see the stage. The problem
is all the graduates and the surrence because they saved
seats just for the parents or in the sun. So
we go that. We went and found our seats and
(09:08):
they were I mean literally behind the tallest people ever
humanly created. There was no seeing anyone. So I said
forget it, and we sat over at the one of
the side tents with the other with our other kids
and the elders, and we sat over there in the
shade which was so much nicer. We actually kind of
(09:29):
had a perfect view, probably ten rows back, but you
could see right to the corner. It was great. So
we sat there and you know, I couldn't believe she survived,
especially it was like eighty degrees. It was so hot
in the sun. But she survived. And then you know,
the people spoke, and people played music and did performances,
(09:54):
and the head of schools spoke and all those things.
I thought I was going to be a lot more
emotional than I was, because leading up to the graduation,
every time I thought about it, I would start to cry,
Like I couldn't even talk about it without crying. But
I didn't feel like that while I was sitting there.
I just felt just really proud of her and just
(10:17):
I don't know, it was just like a nice day,
Like the whole weekend was so easy and nice. It
was just great. So she walked, she graduated. We took
pictures afterwards, and it's funny, you know, and I've told
you guys this before, like she all my kids are
so different, and she doesn't like a big hooplah. Like
there were some families there that had the kids' faces
(10:40):
on popsicle sticks, you know, in large so that they
could raise them up or use them as a mask.
I did that for Max s Nikki. I did not
do that for Cat because I knew she hate that. Okay,
so you have yeah, you have to know your audience,
you know, in this respect. So I didn't do that
for her.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But what if we did that for you every week
when you show up to do the podcast. We just
had heather to brow faces on sticks just to cheer
you on behind the glass every time you were doing
an episode.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I would love that. I think that'd be epic.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Oh, I just dug myself up a hole in there?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Why have you never done that before? All?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Right, come on, st get to work every week.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Did I bought her a lay? Did we talk about
the lays already?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
No?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So when you graduate, when you graduate from anything in California,
I don't know if this is a Los Angeles thing
or just a California thing. People wear lays. So I
am from New York. I didn't know about this. And
I remember when the twins were graduating eighth grade, I
got them lays, and I remember I told Max I'm
(11:51):
gonna get you a lay. She's like, don't do that
no one's going to get that. I went, okay, So
I bought it anyway because I'm not stupid. And we
were sitting in the audience of the eighth grade graduation
and Max texted me and goes, did you get me
a lay? And I was like yes, why, She's like,
could you bring it back here? Because all the other
kids had lays? Thank you? I thought, what's the worst
(12:14):
case scenario, I'll give it to another child. Anyways, So
when it came to Kat, I bought the lay and
I just kept it on the side. And as it
turned out, the school bought all the kids lays, but
they were kind of like smally ones, so this was
(12:35):
like kind of bigger, and I say, anybody, I gave
it to Raftors. But I have to say when they
walked in, the only time I got emotional, and I'll
get emotional saying it now is when they play what
is it called pomp and Circumstance? Is that the name
of the graduation music?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, so see I'm gonna cry.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
They start playing that and they all start walking and
as soon as they see Kat is it.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Teather Debrouh is currently losing it. For those who cannot
see her right now listening to this podcast.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, and then yeah, because it was so sweet and like,
she's such a good kid, She's worked so hard anyway,
So then she goes to sit down and then I
was fine, and then I was totally like just good, happy.
And then what was really funny is that the other
(13:27):
five of us in the family were on a group
chat basically shit talking. Everything that happened at the graduation
of it was so funny. Anyway. I didn't want Cat,
but I didn't make it. I think maximated, but she
put Cat on it, which I was glad because I
didn't want her to be upset she saw it. But
it was really funny anyway. So we got through the
(13:48):
whole ceremony, we took pictures and I gave her the
chunkier leg and she was so happy. It was so cute.
And then we went over to the bel Air Hotel
and that's where I had planned her lunch, and I
kind of it was just like one little thing. Right
when we walked into the table is they had the
(14:09):
cake there, and there were other families from the school
that were doing their lunch there. But if you could
imagine me setting up a graduation lunch. There was a
beautiful tablecloth, I had the chairs changed out, there was
flowers on the table, there was alose kind of special things,
and then the cake was there and she was like
(14:30):
freaking out, like you had embarrassed for a second. She's like,
oh my god, mom, this is too much. Is too much.
I'm like, it's going to be fine. And I just
walked over and go, can you take the cake away
please and bring it back later. So they took the
cake away and we sat down and she was totally fine,
and she thanked me, and she thanked me later. She
loved it because it was pretty simple. I didn't go
crazy like when Maxiiniki graduated high school. We did a
(14:53):
big to do. I mean there was a photo op
and a thing and a thing even though it was
just a family, like I kind of over the top,
but with Kat and you know, your audience, it was
just it was at the Beller Hotel in their outdoor area,
and it really just looked like a pretty table scape,
you know what I mean. It was just really beautiful.
I'll post pictures I did, but I'll repost it, but
(15:16):
just pretty flowers and tablecloth all it, and so I
wanted to do something special for her instead of just
putting the menu on the table. So what we did
was because she's a film maker and a film student.
Remember the old fashioned looking scripts for those of you
who don't know what they look like. It's basically an
(15:38):
eight x ten stack of papers that are connected. They
have three holes, old hunch and then they take these
gold fasteners they're called brads, and they're like a circle
with a point and you push it through the hole
and you bend the points when you get through the
paper and it holds it together. So instead of binding
(16:00):
a book, you use these fasteners, these brands. So what
we did was we did that and we made it
look like a script. So on the front it was
like Kat's graduation. We put the date at the bottom
as if you know, that was the date the script
was written.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And then we for the.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
First page it said cast of characters, cast of cast
said cast back, and look said cast and it had
all of us whoever was there and what their role was,
you know, grandmother, mother and all that. And then in
the body of it, first there was the menu and
then there was notes from everyone like it was all
(16:37):
interst First it wasn't kind of in a row, but
interspersed in this full script, there were notes from everyone
at the lunch. There was a note from her film teacher.
There were photos of her. At the end of each
note there was specific like at the end of my note,
there were pictures of me and her together. The end
of you know, Nikki's note, there were pictures of Nikki
(16:57):
and her together. And then other ages had, you know,
pictures of her growing up and different phases of her
life for musical theater phase and her penguin phase and
her saved the Hector Dolphin phase, all of her different things,
and pictures of movie posters that are like her favorite movies,
(17:18):
and you know, all kinds of things like that. So
it made it really personal but quiet, not over the top.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Put any red lines through the script at any point
in time.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
She did not, and she I also I also I
put in a few pages from different scripts that she
had written.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Oh that's cute also.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
And then on each script were three pencils tied together
with everyone's names on them. So that was like your
seating card, because usually you'd have a pencil when you
sit down at a table read For all of it,
that you don't know when you do. Like let's say
a sitcom, you get there the first day and you
will sit around a huge table or they put tables
(18:01):
together in a U shape, and everyone sits there and
there's a script and a pencil and you read the script.
Writers are there, the network's there, the actors are there,
and you read the script the whole thing. Someone reached
the stage directions and you read it as if you're
performing it, and that's how they get their first round
of notes and whatever. So while you're doing the script,
(18:24):
you take your pencil and you make notes yourself so
that you can remember later. And so I had pencils
with everyone's name. Actually, here's one right now. I'm actually
I was just using it.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh what's your name on it?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
A pencil?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Heather you Row.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, it's like a fun keepsake. I love when the
place cards could be something that someone could take home.
And the script was fun. So so yeah, so like,
oh my god, Like ten minutes into the lunch, Cat
was like, I don't know, Mom, I don't know if
I can sit here and eat, I go listen. You
made it through graduation. That was the important part. If
you don't feel well, but she rallied. She was great,
(19:02):
and she was so cute and so thankful and just
gave a you know, a quick toast because again I
know your audience, and it would I have to say,
everyone was on their a game. Ever at the table
was great. Everyone was fun and lively and happy to
be there. Service was odd that day. Other than that,
(19:24):
it was kind of perfect. And then they brought the
cake out at the end, and I did a cake.
So Cat's so funny when cat Kat loves cake. And
there was a place in Dana Point down by where
we used to live, called All about the Cake. They
make the best cakes, not sponsored, highly recommend getting.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
A cake from that. That's where we went for our cake,
actually for our wedding. You did you know we went
to that same spot that's actually their cake.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Did you do a cake tasting?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yes, we drove. We drove down like a month or
two ago. They had some great options down there.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
They have the best cake. But here's the best part.
I mean, they really their cake is phenomenal. When you
do a cake tasting for a wedding, you sit there
and they basically bring out chunks of cake like cubes,
red velvet vanilla, chocolate, marble, whatever it is. And then
they have all kinds of fillings and all kinds of
fond and frostings whatever, and they take a fork and
(20:20):
they go would you like You go, oh, I'm a
chocolate They go great, So they stick the fork in
the white cube and then they go chocolate and butter
cream and they go, try this, Okay, I'll love this,
not that Okay, great, And you sit there for two
hours and you taste everything and it's so fun. Katamina
loves this process so much. Every year for her birthday
(20:41):
when we lived in Orange County, we would get our
cake from there. Every year we'd go in, they would
let her do a full cake tasting, and one hundred
out of one hundred percent of the time she chose
the same cake and the same flavor. Vanilla cake, white
cake with lemon lemon curd. Wait, lemon, what is it?
(21:02):
Lemon curd? And and verbina? Yeah, what's is verbena? Lemon?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
A lemon? It's a plant.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, it's like look lemon verbena curd situation, and uh,
there's a there's something else in there or white. So
I don't know why I'm totally forgetting, but she always
picks the same thing, and I love it for her,
and so we go. We I've had so many cakes
made by All About the Cake because after someone broke
the bow off the cake, I needed a new place,
so it was started going there and that's where we've
(21:32):
always gone anyway. So I got a company in La
to do it, and I say, they did a gorgeous,
gorgeous job. It wasn't the same as All About, but
it was beautiful. They did a great job. And they
did that flavor that she loves, and it's gonna bug
me that I can't think of the flavor now, but anyway,
it's lemon and vanilla basically. And so I had them
(21:55):
do a film canister with film, like old fashioned film
wrapped around the cake. It was super cool and it
was just it was so great. Everyone gave her presents
and she was just it was just phenomenal. I can't
tell you how lovely it was. And then the next
(22:18):
day it was just nice outside and it was so funny.
So my mom and aunt came over and they're both
My mom used to be a designer. Years ago, they
had a business together, but my mom hasn't done it years.
My aunt is still a big designer in New York,
and I said, I go, listen, I want you to
come over and see the curtains I just did because
(22:40):
I'm redoing my great room. I go, but I just
want to tell you something. They don't care if you
like them. All you're going to do is you're going
to come over and you're going to say how great
they are because they were a fortune and I love
them and I don't. It's done, so I don't want
to hear about it. And they're both like, of course,
and they were great. They came over and I actually
really think they did like it.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Good on you for setting boundaries there. However, the expectations
are you're gonna like it and they deliver it on
it to you.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Well, I will tell you full disclosure. In the past,
I would have liked to set my mother off pavailiar
and be passive aggressive about it and just as soon
as she was gonna hate them and fight with her
about it later. But I would really like to think
that I am evolving as a person, and so I
was very proud of myself. I did set boundaries. They
(23:29):
did come over it. They loved my curtains and my
new game table that I'm obsessed with from this Italian
company that they flow over and put together and it's
so modern and cool and I love it. I'm going
to show you. I'm going to do a big reveal
on social.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
What kind of games like a legit game table or
I always have a.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Game table in my house. Sometimes it's in our primary bedroom,
sometimes it's in the living room, but we always have
a game table. This one you can flip the top.
It's really cool. It's like it's glass and leather and
swede and the top is backammon, but you can flip
(24:07):
it for a checker's chest.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Vibe cool. I just I literally just learned how to
play that game in this past weekend. It's the best,
really kind of It takes you gotta be relatively good
at maths and blending ahead, I think, but it's.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
A great game. And I taught Ace. Now he kicks
my ass. I can't even play him anymore. He gammoned
me the other day. I just he's too good. Yeah.
So anyway, so they came over, they saw everything I showed,
and then I was emboldened by how much they liked
my curtains. So I went so far as to show
them the swatches of everything else that's coming in and
(24:44):
they liked it, so we did that, and then that
night we had a dinner at Craig's and my sister
and her husband and her two boys were there also,
so it was like the whole family. I not my cousinself,
but you know my family that's in California. So we
all went to Craigs and it was I mean, I
(25:07):
know I keep saying great, but I have to tell
you it was just lovely, like it just all everyone
was happy everyone, you know, because families are cobligated, and
sometimes someone's on a good mood, or someone's this or
someone's that. But it was just a beautiful weekend. I
think my take home is, look, I know I've said
(25:28):
this before, but sometimes you get great events like this,
and sometimes you don't. And that's why when it's really
good and it works, you have got to embrace it.
You've got to celebrate it. But I want to give
some advice, and this is for my producers Stephen Gaby
as well, because they're about to get married Steve in
particular this weekend.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yes, as she waves a pencil at us over zoom.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Right, waving a pencil. Listen to me. Things are going
to go wrong at these events. You know, the flowers
are their own color, or the table's not ready, or
someone's super sick. The nyper wore government.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Of the wedding.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
But I mean, like, things happen and it's okay because
it all just becomes part of the story and you
have to remember what the event is actually about. That's
why I said to Katl like, of course, I'm glad
she stayed for the whole lunch, and I'm glad she
felt better. But if she'd had to go, the important
part of this day was her experiencing her graduation walk
(26:33):
right as her parent, I got to experience watching her
do that. But having a lunch or a celebration whatever,
that's icing on the cake, right, that's not really the purpose.
The purpose is to that experience of why you're there.
So you have to know that things are going to happen,
and you got to roll with them, and you have
to let it go and not let it upset you.
(26:55):
You could plan as much as you want, but there's
just you know what should happens, and you can't plan everything,
and you should tell your fiance.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
That I do have to say something because I feel
like the last couple family things you've had and they
have gone relatively well, if not very well. I feel
like you've mastered some sort of family to solo time
ratio out and I think that's really the trick. So
do you do you know what the balance is of
(27:26):
like this is when we all hang out and then
like everybody go away to your hotel room or your
room and then let's come back. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I am good at time management, and I also know
the personalities I'm dealing with, right, So if it's just
our nuclear family, maybe that's the best way to set
this up with our nuclear family. I know, you know,
if we're going to work, we're going on a trip
for five nights. I do not expect everyone to go
(27:55):
out to dinner five nights in a row. They want
to come great, But if they don't, that's okay too. Now,
if you're at a particular place, like when Nicki and
Ace and Terry and I went to Courshable, they came
out every night with us, we had a go a
great time. But when it's if it's the six of
us and we're let's say it's a beach vacation or something,
or maybe you're going to do like a big lunch
(28:17):
out or something like that. I don't expect two big
meals all together or k I just try to look
at the schedule and see what makes sense. The other
thing I do, honestly is if we're on a vacation,
I make a reservation for everyone, and I adjusted accordingly,
and I don't make everyone go to something if they
don't want to. But when it comes to events like this,
(28:40):
you're right. I planned it out. So we had Thursday night,
Friday night, Saturday night, and I have the three elders
in town. So Thursday night, Terry and I went out
with the elders. Now, as it turned out, NICKI came
with us, but he didn't have to. He was not obligated,
but he decided to come with us. So we went
out Thursday night. Friday was the graduation, which was a
(29:05):
morning event, and we all had lunch together. So I
told everyone to do their own thing for Friday night
because that would have been too much.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
Did you do anything in the morning together? Though it
was the graduation, we like like, did you guys like
meet up and the car pull together. Did you guys
all meet at We had.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Two separate cards, but we had to leave our They
had to leave their hotel and I had to leave
the house at eight ten. So it wasn't like, let's
meet at seven am for coffee like that, you know.
And I was getting cat ready and be dazzling and
getting myself ready and so no. But I mean that's
the beginning of the day. So eight fifteen, we were
in the cars and we were together till lunch was
(29:45):
over at like three o'clock. So it was like a
nice long day. Cut your losses, people, we're not seeing
each other tonight. You go do your thing. We're going
to do our thing. And you know, that was enough.
And then the next day I knew we had this
big dinner Saturday night, so I did not plan a lunch.
My uncle wanted to sit out by the pool, Terry
(30:07):
was at the gym. When you know, everyone did their
own thing. I hung out with my mom and aunt
for a bit, talked about curtains, spent a little time
with them, but they were happy doing their own thing,
going here there, whatever, And then we met up that night.
It's all it is about that balance.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Is your would you say your family, like your elders,
the kids, everything are they all pretty individual? People are
kind of dependent a little bit, like when they're fine
going to do a thing on their own. It sounds
like obviously like Terry and and your aunt and your
mom are kind of in that boat.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
But yeah, everyone's fine. Everyone's fine doing something on their
own for sure. Hi, Annie, So Terry's here. I can't
tell you where he just came back from, but it's
very exciting and we'll tell you I don't know soon,
but we're going on a very exciting trip that we'll
(31:04):
tell you about when we get back. I'm a bit
concerned about it. There's reasons to be concerned, there are,
but well, it's going to go great. And why did
they bring up the trip, because how they were saying,
they were commending me on how I schedule the family
so that it's not too much togetherness, you know what
I mean. So people start getting irritated. So anyway, so
(31:25):
we are going on Saturday on this trip, and so
we're going out with the kids on Friday night, and
it will serve one of two purposes. Either it's so great.
We had this really great moment with them before we go,
or they'll be so irritating. We're just going to be
so happy we won't miss them. Yeah, all right, So
(31:52):
the graduation was fantastic. Cat's feeling much better and she's
bumming around this summer and then and this past Sunday,
and then Terry and I had to fly to Idaho
for a night because you know, we've got some holdings
in Idaho, so we had to fly up to Idaho.
We literally spent twenty four hours in Idaho. It was
(32:13):
so fond though, and the Bellows were there and there
was a barbecue and it was Memorial Day. It was great.
We don't have an ace king with us and brought
a friend, so it was so fun. We had a
great time together.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
How do you feel about lake activities like going out
on the boat on a lake and like wakeboarding, living water?
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, I like it. I've done those things. I'm sort
of you know, I'm in the stage of my life
where I don't want to get hurt, and so I'm
every summer I'm torn. I don't want my kids to
not see me as someone that does things, because I've
done it all with them, you know, surfing and swimming,
and ziploding and like all the things. But now I
(32:55):
don't really want to do those things anymore, and I
wrestle with Oh. I don't want them to think of
me as someone that just sits on the boat. But honestly,
I don't want to do it anymore. So I kind
of sit on the boat and drink champagne and they
go wake surfing and Whatnot's fun, though, I love it.
The lake is gorgeous. I love it so pretty there.
The air is so nice.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
I would say, though, I think doing a boat activity
like that, like being towed behind the boat, is probably
one of the safer activities because, like I've never been.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
They fuck with you on the boat and then they
fly off the floating and you know I've been downs.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Just let go, you can, you can just let go
and then sink into the water.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Venom in the water. Then a boat runs over. God
for anyway, Oh, so I want. I know we're going
to run out of time. So I wanted to tell
you about Pride. Yes, Pride was fabulous. This was my
first time ever being at the West Hollywood Pride Parade
(33:56):
and it was a ball. Last Oh my gosh, Sutton
and I Sutton Strack and I. We did we wrote together.
It was so funny. We had so much fun. We
left so much. She had contacted me a while ago
and asked if I wanted to run. She's got this
Ford pickup truck so cute. She's like, well, ride in
(34:18):
the back. I'll put a bench there. It'll be great.
And I was like, all right, great. So you know,
I've been working with the Trevor Project a lot, and
I said, can we you know, Honor the Trevor Project
And she said absolutely. And she's got her brand, Sutton Brands.
And by the way, if you want to go shop
on Sutton Brands, you can go to the Sutton Stracks
(34:41):
Instagram and there's a link there. We'll try to get
a link to to put up and proceeds are going
to the Trevor Project this month and she made some
really great pride and merge. So anyway, so we agreed
to do this thing. I bought a dress online, this rainbow,
you know, crazy dress, so cute. They're on some sneakers
(35:06):
and Sutton picked me up and we got in the
pickup dark. It was so funny. I mean, first of all,
it was so hot outside. Oh my Lord so hot,
and so we had to wait on a side street
for I don't know, forty five minutes so we could
get going because they line up the cars and there.
It's quite an operation they have going on for Pride.
(35:28):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
And the day did you have to get there?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Not that early? The parades started at noon and we
were there by like eleven thirty, but we didn't get
going in our car. We were sitting there till probably
twelve forty five. Because there's one hundred and fifteen vehicles, floats,
attractions in the parade. Oh wow, and we were seventy one.
(35:56):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Okay, yeah, you had to wait, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
But it was one I mean, United Airlines was lined
up next to us, ready to go. Mattel the Toy
Company was lined up behind us. There was this great
organization Free Mom Hugs that are just like a group
of moms that will just give people hugs that you know,
(36:21):
don't have support. It was really sweet and so beautiful
and so anyway, so and she got me at Tiara
and got me like a love tir, which is so nice.
And then we got in the thing and we started moving.
Finally we were about to turn on Santa Monica Boulevard
(36:41):
to get into the parade, and sitting I said, of
the bathroom, and there's this like line of porter potties
just now hop out of the back of the truck.
They lifted out, run across the street, get in the
porter potty and totally filmed the whole thing and and
come back. And that I was hammeling out total camel.
(37:02):
It was not peg because once you break the seal,
you're screwed. So anyway, so I was in the back
of the truck and we ran, we rode in the parade,
and I bought a thousand orange beads because that's the
Trevor Project, which if you know anything about the Trevor Project,
which we've talked about, it's for kids in crisis. It's
a suicide hotline and every forty five seconds on an
(37:26):
LGBTQ plus you tries to commit suicide. So it's really
important that we support the Trevor Project because they're dealing
with kids at the front line. So we had signs
on the side that said, you know, my name is
Sutton's name and the Trevor Project, and I got a
thousand orange beads to toss out Marty Gross style, and
we rode in the parade and people, you know, yelled
(37:49):
us and waved and gave some interviews and it was
so fun. So we're going down, we're waving, we're doing
all the things. And at one point Kara Delvine was
in the parade also. She was We had seen her
go by right before we turned onto Santa Monica Boulevard
and I don't know her, but I mean like obsessed, right,
(38:10):
and I was like, oh, look, there's Kara del Avine. Whatever. Anyway,
her car broke down, this convertible she was riding and
broke down. So they had pulled over to the side
of the road and we saw her and we called
her and she jumped in our car with us and
rode with us like at the end of the parade,
and she was like, oh my god, I love you guys.
She was so cute, Oh my god, she gorgeous. Wow, stunning,
(38:35):
so nice, so stunning, and it was great. So anyway,
so then she jumped out went back to ever thing
and we were done and we were with So it
was me and Sutton and we were with a bunch
of guys and we decided to go to the Waldorf,
and you know, we didn't think, oh, we should go
back in the cab of the car. Let's just stay
(38:57):
on this unfeathered sofa that's in the back hickup truck.
Like what are we in high school talk about not
wanting to do dangerous things anymore? And literally road like
that from West Hollywood to the Waldorf, which is like
at the tip of Beverly Hills. It's so stupid Terry thinking. Wow, yes,
(39:19):
I wasn't thinking. But it was really fun. And then
we went up to the you know, the rooftop of
the Waldorf in our beautiful Pride outfits and had a
great meal and it was so so fun. So everyone
that was with us, Jeremy, Tim, Brian Sutton, I love you.
That was so fun. We had such a great time,
and I just want to say it was it was
(39:40):
such a beautiful experience. It was so great seeing everyone's
you know, T shirts and flags and gear get up
and with their kids there and it was so it
was just a beautiful day. And I just want to
thank everyone that came out, and then everyone that's supporting Pride.
(40:02):
I want to give a shout out to the Fairmont
Hotel that's near where I live. That's you know, they
do these pretty lights on top of that hotel. It's
like this, it's an historical landmark. It's this curved hotel
and right now they have a full on rainbow going
around the hotel and it's just amazing. And thanks to
(40:22):
all the big corporations that came out, like I was saying,
United at hotel and all these places. It's just it's
really beautiful to see the ally ship, especially this year,
especially when we need it. So having said that, I
am going on Vicky Sean with Terry and some other couples,
I may drip some content to you on social, so
(40:45):
make sure you're following me at Heather du Brow and
I will give you the whole rundown when I get back,
I promise. But in the meantime, next couple of weeks,
we're going to be running some best ofs, So if
there's anything in particul here you want to hear, let
me know and we'll pull those up. And I hope
everyone just has a great couple of weeks and I'll
(41:07):
see you when I get them.
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